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Speaker 2: seven three DP show, as we always do every Monday,

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Speaker 2: Best and Worst of the weekend. What you saw that

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Speaker 2: you liked and didn't like. We'll come up with a

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Speaker 2: poll question. Seaton will do the honors, but first let

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Speaker 2: me run down in no particular order. Scotty Scheffler wins

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Speaker 2: the BMW fifth win of the season, and it's his sport.

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Speaker 2: Now when you think about it, you know, Tiger separated

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Speaker 2: himself eventually. You know Phil was kind of there, Ernie

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Speaker 2: Els was there. You had other guys who were kind

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Speaker 2: of on the periphery who would you know sometime they

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Speaker 2: would step up in a week and challenge him, maybe

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Speaker 2: beat him. But this is Scotty Scheffler's and you're watching it,

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Speaker 2: and it's very methodical. It is, you know, drip drip, drip,

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Speaker 2: water torture as opposed to a guillotine. Tiger was a guillotine.

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Speaker 2: He would just cut your head off. Scotty's like, yep,

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Speaker 2: there he is again, and there he is again, and

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Speaker 2: there he is again. And then he did this on

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Speaker 2: the next to last hole yesterday. And this is how

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Speaker 2: it sounded. Do we have Scotty Scheffler Marvin or is

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Speaker 2: that our play of the day?

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Speaker 3: That is our play of the day.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we're gonna save that. Okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So Scotty Scheffler wins the BMW. I think the Happy

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Speaker 2: Gilmore cameo at the end of Happy Gilmore too. You

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Speaker 2: have over one hundred million people who have streamed that movie.

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Speaker 2: And I think this has helped too, that Scotty is

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's embraceable, but he's likable, he's enjoyable,

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Speaker 2: and you're watching and you're going, Okay, he's making fun

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Speaker 2: of himself, and I think that really helped. And he,

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Speaker 2: you know, had a four shot deficit and he caught

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Speaker 2: Robert McIntyre and then of course had some really great

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Speaker 2: performances shots that you want. You know, I hate when

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Speaker 2: somebody backs into a title, and Scotty Scheffler did not

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Speaker 2: back into a title. He went out, grabbed it and

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Speaker 2: won it, his fifth PGA Tour title of the season

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Speaker 2: and the first player to win five straight times on

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour in consecutive years since Tiger Woods back

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Speaker 2: in six and seven. And I know it sounds blasphemous

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, put Scotty Scheffler in Tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: in the same you know conversation. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: the style, the presentation. I'm talking about the end result.

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Speaker 2: And that's where Scotty deserves to be put in that category. Now,

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Speaker 2: granted it's a smaller sample size. But if you're looking

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Speaker 2: at Tiger at his tiger Ish peak, Scotty is, you know,

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Speaker 2: at least close, he's at least in the conversation with that.

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Speaker 2: And once again, he's never he still looks like Carl

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Speaker 2: Spackler from what is it the Caddyshack. Yeah, whenever I

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Speaker 2: just looks like Bill Murray's character in Caddyshack. But he

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Speaker 2: did it in a methodical way once again and very

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Speaker 2: impressive going into the Tour Championship. Also, preseason football, I

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Speaker 2: think we got to declare moratorium on going crazy with

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Speaker 2: dilemma here. And I talk about this in certain sports

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Speaker 2: or athletes or teams where it's clickbait. And I have

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Speaker 2: told you this many many times. I don't subscribe to it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. It may, you know,

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Speaker 2: not be beneficial for this show or this my career.

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Speaker 2: But I have to present something when I feel like

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Speaker 2: it needs to be presented. And I'm watching shudor Sanders

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Speaker 2: It almost feels like you either say, hey, really, he

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Speaker 2: I see the coverage for Dylan Gabriel and you know,

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Speaker 2: come back and go that was said. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: like freezing cold takes. We'll bring him back. And you know,

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Speaker 2: start a game for the Browns this season, said that

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Speaker 2: and anybody who you know, believes in and should Or

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Speaker 2: Sanders shouldn't have been surprised at how he played. That

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Speaker 2: was the surprising part of it. If you think he

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Speaker 2: to be good. He played well in college. I voted

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Speaker 2: for him third on my Heisman ballot. But you know,

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Speaker 2: this outpour of media, I mean it was gushing, it

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Speaker 2: But I do think he'll get a chance. But I

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Speaker 2: game in the preseason. It's like summer league basketball where

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Speaker 2: my gosh, this guy put up forty for the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: He don't even make the roster. I think should or

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Speaker 2: will play. But you do have to pick a side

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Speaker 2: almost because if I say something negative, well I'm a hater.

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Speaker 2: And then if I praise Shador Sanders, then I'm, you know,

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Speaker 2: on the bandwagon. With Dion and his son. I expect

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Speaker 2: him to play well, and he did play well, and

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Speaker 2: you can celebrate that, but I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I did want to see composure. We talked Drew Brees

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Speaker 2: guys who have a good thirty starts. Now that's where

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Speaker 2: you really get a sense of how good a quarterback

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Speaker 2: two different places. Now you get a good sample size.

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Speaker 2: That's why we've had a lot of these quarterbacks recently,

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Speaker 2: high draft picks who maybe had one really good season

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Speaker 2: in college. It's not enough for me, and I think

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Speaker 2: that that's where we need to have buyer be ware

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Speaker 2: with all of this. Shad Or Sanders played well, but

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Speaker 2: I hate picking a side because I don't really have

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Speaker 2: a side on it. I want to be neutral with him.

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Speaker 2: You have football coming up tonight. You have the Commanders

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals. This is the holdout game, so Commanders

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Speaker 2: in the Bengals. The Bengals their minus five three and

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin game, neither will be there. And

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Speaker 2: this is where you know I said this about Michah Parsons.

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Speaker 2: If I hear that they're listening to offers in Dallas

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Speaker 2: or somebody is making an offer, now you have my attention.

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Speaker 2: I truly believe that this will come down to the

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Speaker 2: Jerry will own all the headlines and Micah Parsons will

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Speaker 2: be brought in and he'll proudly say he's the highest

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Speaker 2: But as far as the Bengals go there listening, you know,

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Speaker 2: And if you knew that you weren't going to sign him,

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Speaker 2: and you knew that he was going to hold firm

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Speaker 2: this prior to the draft? Why didn't you trade him?

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Speaker 2: That's when you could get more for him. But here

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Speaker 2: So this is where you look at if I'm a

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Speaker 2: sign him up. Let's go. You know, you only have

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson gets the money. I think it's really easy

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Speaker 2: at production, Trey Hendrickson has been better than TJ Want

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Speaker 2: the last two years. Terry McLaurin his numbers, I can't

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Speaker 4: All right, yes, PAULI, how about halftime tonight to spice

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Speaker 4: up the game, Trey Henderson negotiates with the Bengals live

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Speaker 4: on air. Twelve minutes halftime. You got to get the

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Speaker 4: contract done. You got twelve minutes. McLaurin, same thing. That's

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm good with that. Bengals probably wouldn't be in

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Speaker 2: favor of that. I'd love to know what those negotiations

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Speaker 2: sound like, feel like, and I mean, while we're at it,

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Speaker 2: and then you get but Jerry has to only have

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Speaker 2: the player in there. He doesn't want to have the agent.

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Speaker 2: So Jerry Joe couldn't do that, But wouldn't You'd love

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Speaker 2: to see how that goes down back and forth. This

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Speaker 2: it happened to me that management can tell your agent

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Speaker 2: whatever they want to tell them. Now, they wouldn't tell

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Speaker 2: the great Mark Shapiro of the ESPN said to my agent,

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Speaker 2: never get another job. Well, he says that to my agent,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, God when he say that to me,

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Speaker 2: Yes he would, But you know it's per you know,

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Speaker 2: it's business, but for Trey hendricks and Terry McLaurin, it's personal.

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Speaker 2: This is their salary, this is their future, this is

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Speaker 2: their life. For Mike Brown and I mean, he's like,

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Speaker 2: this is just another contract for him, another holdout, another

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Speaker 2: proceed with caution in the preseason, going to reiterate that here, Satan,

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Speaker 2: what's the pole question today? Well, we could start there

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Speaker 3: I got a long list here, Buccaneers on that list.

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Speaker 2: I think he's leaving to go wherever they'll pay him.

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Speaker 4: I had the current list of salary cap space in

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Speaker 5: All right, good point?

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Speaker 3: You think he just wants to get paid?

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Speaker 2: But this is it.

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Speaker 5: You know. I guess it depends on who you asked, Dan.

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Speaker 8: You know, if you ask Michigan people, right, they say

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Speaker 8: I think what the NCAA did, and they're starting to

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Speaker 8: And I think this idea is just was just an

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Speaker 8: like this is very very preliminary.

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Speaker 5: So this was a wor a week a week ago.

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Speaker 8: So last Monday, I think our last Tuesday, the Big

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Speaker 8: ten had a meeting with its its athletic administrators and

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Speaker 8: kind of just sort of presented this, Hey what do

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Speaker 8: you think and everybody sort of gave it the thumbs up, right,

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Speaker 8: and then they sent it to the SEC last middle

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Speaker 8: last week, early last week, and there was a preliminate

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Speaker 8: the first call between Big ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti and

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Speaker 8: SEC Commissioner Greg sank Friday about it, and it was

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Speaker 8: just sort of a going through it.

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Speaker 5: What do we think of this?

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Speaker 2: You know it?

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Speaker 8: I think the Big ten is sort of like trying

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Speaker 8: to get a feel for where the SEC is, and

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Speaker 8: there's really been no answer there from the SEC. But

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Speaker 8: this week there could be some kind of answer. The

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Speaker 8: SEC Athletic Directors meet for a regularly scheduled meeting this

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Speaker 8: week and so I'm guessing it will come up. But Dan,

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Speaker 8: this is so preliminary, like it's on I heard about

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Speaker 8: it Thursday. I decided that I wouldn't write about it

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Speaker 8: because it was so preliminary. ESPN did write about it

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Speaker 8: on Saturday, which forced all of us to write about it.

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Speaker 8: But I went to somebody who was very involved in

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Speaker 8: the process about like, Hey, I'm writing something. They're like,

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Speaker 8: there's nothing to write. This is a non story. It's

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Speaker 8: just starting. We haven't even gotten to the first step

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Speaker 8: of it. And they are right, I mean, this is

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Speaker 8: very preliminary, so I think we're still a ways away.

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Speaker 5: But Dan, I think we always knew when we went.

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Speaker 8: College, when college football went from two to four and certainly,

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Speaker 8: when it went from four to twelve, we knew this

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Speaker 8: was inevitably it was going to go to at least sixteen,

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Speaker 8: and so I think that's still where the focus is.

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Speaker 8: It's trying to get this thing to sixteen. But there's

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Speaker 8: a deadline December one where they have to make a

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Speaker 8: decision on next year's playoff. Obviously, this year's is twelve,

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Speaker 8: and that's all set. We're trying to decide on next

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Speaker 8: year and then there and in the next five years. Right,

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Speaker 8: the new kind of six year extension that starts next year,

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Speaker 8: so they have to December one. I have a feeling

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Speaker 8: next year's playoff will be where it is this year.

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Speaker 8: It certainly will not be twenty four to twenty eight teams, right,

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Speaker 8: This is not happening within a year.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Thanks for joining us, No problem,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ross Dellinger.

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Speaker 2: He's Gerald McCoy. He was a former defensive tackle, six

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Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler, and third overall pick in the draft

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Speaker 2: twenty ten. I believe three of the four top four

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Speaker 2: were from Oklahoma, right, Jerald.

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Speaker 9: That sounds absolutely perfect. Yes, it was three to four picks.

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Speaker 9: It was Sam and then I went and then Trent

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Speaker 9: went number four.

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Speaker 2: And then and Dominican Sue was in there as well.

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Speaker 10: It was two. Yes, but.

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Speaker 9: Five of the top six were from the Big twelve,

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Speaker 9: so we had something going that year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me give the official introduction. NFL Network carries

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Speaker 2: six preseason games that'll be coming up a quadruple header

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Speaker 2: this Saturday, August twenty third, starting at one Eastern on

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Speaker 2: NFL Network. Do coaches give pregame speeches in the preseason.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 9: Preseason is still about preparing the team, and somebody has

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Speaker 9: to play the game, whether it's the starters, the backups, whoever.

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Speaker 9: The game still has to be played. And most coaches say, hey,

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Speaker 9: they keeping scoring. We want to go out and win,

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Speaker 9: and we've been working on all these things, whether you've

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Speaker 9: had joint practices or not, whether you've just been practicing together,

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Speaker 9: whatever we've been working on.

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Speaker 10: Coach wants to go see you executed in the game.

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Speaker 9: The coaches do a great job of not trying to

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Speaker 9: downplay what preseason is that's more like the starters and

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Speaker 9: the players that will do something like that. But the

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Speaker 9: coaches they locked in at all times. I'm talking about

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Speaker 9: they still yelling on the sideline. They still is still

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Speaker 9: a game. So yeah, they do can get pregame.

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Speaker 2: Speeches, Okay, But how do I process the Bills getting

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Speaker 2: blown out by the Bears? That we know the Bills

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Speaker 2: are good, they got embarrassed by the Bears. Let me

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Speaker 2: look at it from the Bills perspective of how would

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Speaker 2: you feel if you played for the Bills and you

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Speaker 2: got blown out like that?

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Speaker 9: Well, it's not a great feeling because we've been practiced,

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Speaker 9: We've still been practicing, and we've still been working on

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Speaker 9: the things that we do.

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Speaker 10: So you go out in the game and don't put up.

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Speaker 9: Any points like none, that is, that's not a great

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Speaker 9: feeling for whoever's out there because preseason, some of these

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Speaker 9: games might be the only NFL football some of these

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Speaker 9: guys ever played, and they live and tell stories off

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Speaker 9: their preseason experience and their game.

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Speaker 10: So if you go out there.

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Speaker 9: And the only experience you've ever had you got blown

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Speaker 9: out thirty eight zero, that's not a story you want

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Speaker 9: to tell. But also for the coaches who are trying

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Speaker 9: to look for the special teams players and the guys

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Speaker 9: who might be the backups. It's not a good look

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Speaker 9: for them either. So I'm pretty sure those meetings are

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Speaker 9: not pleasant this week.

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Speaker 2: What's it like when somebody gets cut in training camp?

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Speaker 9: It's horrible. It's something you don't want to see. I

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Speaker 9: remember in the spring, we this wasn't even training camp,

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Speaker 9: it's a spring. I can't remember what year it was,

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Speaker 9: but all the d line it got together after workouts

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Speaker 9: and meetings and we went to see a movie. And

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Speaker 9: while we were sitting in the theater during the movie,

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Speaker 9: one of the guys instead of was all right, Fellas,

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna get out of it, it was like the

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Speaker 9: movie just started. He was like, Oh, they just cut me,

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Speaker 9: so I gotta get out of here. I was like,

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Speaker 9: and we were just like, Bro, do we sitting enjoy

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Speaker 9: the movie or do we leave? Like we don't. We

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Speaker 9: don't know what to do. It's a it's a bad feeling.

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Speaker 9: I've seen so many different cuts. We've been sitting in

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Speaker 9: the meeting the day of final cuts, and you feel

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Speaker 9: like once you make it to team meeting, all right,

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Speaker 9: we're good. But I found that out many a time,

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Speaker 9: even making it to that meeting. It's not so you

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Speaker 9: walk around, you see people like looking around the corner

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Speaker 9: hoping they don't you know, get called, and then you

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Speaker 9: get in the team meeting. One time we was in

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Speaker 9: the team meeting the team's starting and Shelton Quarrels. We

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Speaker 9: called him the grim Reaper in Tampa because he was

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Speaker 9: the one who would come grab you. So we was

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Speaker 9: all like, you know, like everybody look out for the

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Speaker 9: grim Reaper. So we we sit at the team meeting

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Speaker 9: and then we see we hear that back door open up,

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Speaker 9: and everybody turned around and Shelton. We was like, oh

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Speaker 9: my gosh, he came to grab somebody. And then one

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Speaker 9: time it was week one, Week one, the first practice,

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Speaker 9: so we come back that Monday before the first week.

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Speaker 9: It's not that Wednesday. Is that Monday? So you want

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Speaker 9: to get to that Wednesday. So the Monday comes up,

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Speaker 9: we outside of practice and Shelton walks on the field

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Speaker 9: to practice to the warm ups and grab somebody off

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Speaker 9: the field. I was like wow, I said, man, this

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Speaker 9: business is ruthless. This is just yeah, it's not a

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Speaker 9: great feeling. It's not something you want to see.

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Speaker 2: And because it's your dream. Yeah, think if you made

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Speaker 2: it through the first week. In the first game, it's

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I feel like I've made the roster.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty safe there.

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Speaker 10: That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 9: But I tell people all the time, man, the NFL

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Speaker 9: is about adjustments, not just game day adjustments. You really

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Speaker 9: have to adjust to everything, just to new coaches adjust

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Speaker 9: new players, adjust to the weather. Everybody plays hurt, nobody's

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Speaker 9: healthy after the first day of practice.

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Speaker 10: It's just a game of adjustments.

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Speaker 9: This roster you start with, even in week one, might

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Speaker 9: not be the roster you go into the game with,

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Speaker 9: but definitely the ross you start with week one at

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Speaker 9: the roster you go in week seventeen with.

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Speaker 10: So it's just all about adjustments.

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Speaker 2: Is Gerald McCoy works for NFL Network as an analyst

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Speaker 2: and former defensive tackle. NFL Network has six preseason games

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Speaker 2: that'll be a quadruple header this Saturday, August twenty third,

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Speaker 2: starting at one Eastern. The difference in the sound of

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Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback at the line of scrimmage and Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady any veteran in any of those guys, the sound

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Speaker 2: their voice is their difference. If I say, just listen,

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Speaker 2: you can tell a rookie at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 2: and a veteran.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you can definitely tell the difference, the level of confidence,

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Speaker 9: how to operate, even the communication from the office of

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Speaker 9: the line rookies depending on who's the center. This is

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Speaker 9: what a lot of people want to know is I

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Speaker 9: don't care how good the rookie is. If he has

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Speaker 9: a vet center, he's going to depend a lot on

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Speaker 9: his center for protections.

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Speaker 10: Changing plays a lot of things that's going.

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Speaker 9: So you may hear the rookie calling it, but they're

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Speaker 9: real indecisive with things they want to do.

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Speaker 10: The center helps them out a lot. I remember this

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Speaker 10: happening with.

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Speaker 9: Cam trying to think of some other young guys that

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Speaker 9: I played. I really can only really think of Cam

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Speaker 9: right now because that's why I played in the division.

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Speaker 10: But Ryan Couli will help Cam out a lot.

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Speaker 9: Cam was very decisive as he got older, But when

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Speaker 9: we first played, Cam would call things out. But we'll

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Speaker 9: be at the line and Ryan would be calling out, no,

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Speaker 9: we're not doing this, We're going here here Cam, and

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Speaker 9: they would be going back and forth like okay, confirming

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Speaker 9: what's going on, but then he played at Drew Brees

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Speaker 9: or Matt Ryan and oh shoot.

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Speaker 2: Kill kill kill kill you, Like, man, what the.

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Speaker 10: Heck is going on?

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Switching well, I think please check ain't something because Drew

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Speaker 9: was out there, like Drew is cerebral man, and he

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Speaker 9: listened and Drew me and Drew tray together.

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Speaker 10: So that's what made that fun.

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Speaker 9: He would be talking like looking at me, like making

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Speaker 9: changes like look at me, dead in my face, like

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Speaker 9: let me know, y'all not about to stop this, you know.

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Speaker 9: So it was it was always fus you know, going

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Speaker 9: back and forth with Drew.

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Speaker 2: What was it like to tackle Cam Newton?

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Speaker 9: So I don't know if y'allve ever seen like Toddler's

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Speaker 9: like really feel like they can take their parent down,

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Speaker 9: like really feel like they can jump on their dad's

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Speaker 9: leg and tackle them and then the dad is like

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Speaker 9: like wrapped around their leg and they just like dragging

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Speaker 9: you across the carpet. That's pretty much what it feels

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Speaker 9: like trying to take Cam down. Because Cam, in my

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Speaker 9: time was the most elusive. I still think he's the

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Speaker 9: most elusive quarterback ever, simply because we've seen Lamar, we've

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Speaker 9: seen Vic seen Randall cunning here. We've seen all these

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Speaker 9: people be elusive to where they can escape. But Cam

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Speaker 9: was doing everything they're doing at six six to fifty

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Speaker 9: to sixty doing it. But he's just as smooth. He

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Speaker 9: can run, not as fast, but he can run very fast.

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Speaker 9: He's outrunning people. He can make you miss. And he

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Speaker 9: had that fake to the right, spin back out to

649
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Speaker 9: the left, he had that step forward, step back move.

650
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 9: Cam had everything you needed to be an a loosive quarterback.

651
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 9: But then when you hit him, it's like, please go

652
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 9: down because he had all this paddy He had pads

653
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 9: on his arms, he had pads on his calves, he

654
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 9: had the flack jacket. It's like, Cam, come on, Doug,

655
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 9: you already to sixty. Why are you wearing all this stuff?

656
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 9: But he's wearing all that stuff and he's still moving

657
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 9: the way he's moving like you really had to jump

658
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 9: on Cam to get him on the ground.

659
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 10: Cam was He's one of the best. Man.

660
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: Do you still have your Batman themes rolls Royce.

661
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 9: I have the Rose Royce but to Kobe after Kobe

662
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 9: passed away, so it was Batman, but I have I

663
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 9: So what I have now is I have a Batman

664
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 9: themed cyber truck and I have my Batman chained on too, So.

665
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 10: I'm you all that man, Yeah, I'm all Batman.

666
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: How did you trick out the Kobe rules? Rice?

667
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 10: It's red? Still red?

668
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 9: And I put the Mamba logo on the front of

669
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 9: my hood. So do you ever meet him?

670
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 10: I did meet Kobe.

671
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 9: I met Kobe at the Player's Tribune meeting in LA

672
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 9: And for somebody to be somebody you looked up to,

673
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 9: so they kept talking about the Players Rebune meeting and

674
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 9: I was part of the Players Commune and they were

675
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 9: having a big meeting in LA and they called me

676
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 9: and they was like, hey, this year.

677
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 10: Last, last year, Kobe is supposed to be there. He

678
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 10: wasn't there. This year, he's for sure going, He's for

679
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 10: sure confirmed. Are you going. I'm like, I'm already headed

680
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 10: to the airport.

681
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: So like, so I.

682
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 10: Get there and I'm in the meeting.

683
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 9: I'm seeing all these people, Michael phipps uh, these Von Miller's,

684
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 9: these these Paul Pierce's, these just all these time, Maria Sheri, Povah's,

685
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 9: all these like people like Kd's in there, Blake Griffin

686
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 9: and all these and I'm like I know Blake, I

687
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 9: know kd, I know Von, I know all these people.

688
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 9: Derek Jeter got to meet Derek Jeter. But you know,

689
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 9: he's in Tampa all the time, so I had met

690
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 9: him before. But I'm like, hey, listen, no offense. Where

691
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 9: is he at?

692
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 5: You know?

693
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 10: So I see him walk down the steps and.

694
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is happening. And he

695
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 9: just walks in and he's just a normal dude. He's

696
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 9: just a normal dude.

697
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 10: Man. He walked up.

698
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 9: He was like, he's a big fellow, and he's shaking

699
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 9: everybody hand and they sitting down.

700
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 10: We have a meeting. We go through the play as

701
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 10: rebut we have a great meeting.

702
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 9: Then afterwards we went outside to the pool where they

703
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 9: just happened the after party and he comes outside and

704
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 9: he comes he's sitting next to me and he slapped

705
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 9: me on the legs, like what's up, big dog? How

706
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 9: you doing? And we like over the conversation. Then I

707
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 9: asked for a picture and then he leaves. It's just

708
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 9: like it was almost like the perfect meeting of one

709
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 9: of your like heroes, honestly, and one of the people

710
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 9: I looked up to my entire career man, and it

711
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 9: was a great feeling. So yes, I did have opportunity

712
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 9: to meet Kobe.

713
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: More nervous with that or playing in a big in

714
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: a playoff game.

715
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 10: It was.

716
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 9: I was more nervous meeting Kobe for sure, because you

717
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 9: don't want to mess it up, you know, like you

718
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 9: know it's just meeting him, but you still like you

719
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 9: don't want to be you just don't want to be

720
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 9: weird man like I'm and I'm I'm I'm not a

721
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 9: nervous person like I'm not. I don't get nervous really,

722
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 9: you know, I don't really get embarrassed if I fall

723
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 9: in front of the thousands of people. I just get

724
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 9: up like dang, y'all just tripped the field. But that's

725
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 9: just how I am. Like, I don't really get advartance

726
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 9: like that, So you know I was.

727
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 10: But I was.

728
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 9: Really nervous to meet Kobe as much as I've been

729
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 9: wanting to meet him, and all these things I'm gonna

730
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 9: say to him when I meet.

731
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 10: Him, and all that, I hadn't do. None of that.

732
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 10: I didn't do none of this.

733
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: None of this could a couple of football things here,

734
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: the contract situation with Trey Hendricks and Michael Parsons. Terry McLaurin, Yeah,

735
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: which one? Which one is? You know potentially serious that it?

736
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: You know, a player could change teams.

737
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 9: If I have somebody that could really change the team,

738
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 9: is Michael Parsons THEO.

739
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: Going to another team?

740
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 10: Gonna go to another team?

741
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 9: Probably Trendon a Trey Henders said, there's a real possibility

742
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 9: he could get traded. You think about san Fran could

743
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 9: trade for him. I would love to see him go

744
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 9: to the Bucks. He could, you know, possibly Washington, Washington

745
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 9: definitely use him to Missing Peace. But I think it's

746
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 9: the real possibility he can get traded out of there.

747
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 9: Because we've seen the history of Cincinnati. They just they

748
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 9: just don't pay people. It's just like this is always

749
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 9: like a reoccurring thing. Then we always looking at Cincinnati

750
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 9: like what the heck are y'all doing with Why y'all

751
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 9: don't want to pay anybody?

752
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 10: Uh?

753
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 9: Terry McLaurin, I don't see getting traded. Mike could definitely

754
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 9: is not getting traded. But yeah, if I have to

755
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 9: pick anybody's trade, Hendrickson.

756
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: Give me your sneaky team this year.

757
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 9: The Raiders. The Raiders. He Carroll, he's a ten win coach.

758
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 9: It's just it's just what he does. It's some people

759
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 9: you just like, they just this is what they do.

760
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 9: It may not be glamorous or whatever, but this is

761
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 9: just what they do. You just look up. It's like, man,

762
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 9: he averaged a double double again, how the heck is

763
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 9: he doing this? That's just that's Pete carries one of

764
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 9: them guys with ten wins. He just he knows how

765
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 9: to win. He has a formula. He runs the ball,

766
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 9: physical run game. He had Marshall Lynn. You go get

767
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 9: Ashton jim t because this is my style, this is

768
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 9: what I want to do. You go out and get

769
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 9: a quarterback that you know can play. That's a vet

770
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 9: that you don't have to teach him. He's won some games,

771
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 9: made the playoffs. Gino Smith, you already got brought Bowers.

772
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 9: You go draft offensive lineman so you can run the

773
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 9: ball and be physical.

774
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 10: You got your.

775
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 9: Receivers that could take the top off the defense. Max

776
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 9: Crosby's on the other side. I know with John Spotech

777
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 9: the GM. I was with him in Tampa. I know

778
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 9: his philosophy and how he builds teams. I just believe

779
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 9: that this team is going to shock a lot of

780
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 9: people with the things they can do, but the formula

781
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 9: they have, Pete Carroll's just a winner. And in that

782
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 9: city in Vegas, Pete Carroll fits that perfect. He recruited

783
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 9: me when he was at USC, so I've seen how

784
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 9: he can handle big cities and how he can handle

785
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 9: the lights. And we've seen it in Seattle, going to

786
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 9: two Super Bowls, going to multiple MC championship, winning a

787
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 9: super Bowl. This is just who Pete Carroll is, and

788
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 9: I know what he can do, and I believe that

789
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 9: they're going to be a team that sneaks up on

790
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 9: a lot of people.

791
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: Oklahoma paid better than USC.

792
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 9: Hey, listen, let me tell you something. I'm in the

793
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 9: clear now. I didn't get anything. But I tell people

794
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 9: all the time. I tell people that's all the time.

795
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 9: Y'all can't do nothing to me now if I'm not

796
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 9: one of the people that's gonna get on here and say, hey, no,

797
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 9: I would to took nothing. Please all right, Hey, hey, hey,

798
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 9: I'm from south side Oklahoma City. We ain't had much.

799
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 9: I needed all I could get, but I didn't get nothing.

800
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 9: So you know whatever, Oh you was just oh you hey.

801
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: I don't blame players getting money. You know, getting a

802
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: hand down, but you can do it.

803
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 9: Yeah at this man, listen, college is you go for

804
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 9: the reasons you go, you know back then and everything

805
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 9: has changed. I go talk to these teams, these guys

806
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 9: that owe you these income and recruits. I've talked to

807
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 9: the team that's there now and when I was there.

808
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 9: I tell people the times of going to a school

809
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 9: because you grew up loving the school or the tradition

810
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 9: or this is o you. I know them days over with,

811
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 9: so I'm not one of the people they bring you

812
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 9: in and I go talk.

813
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 10: To a team like we have a standard, we have it,

814
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 10: this and.

815
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: This and this.

816
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 9: That's not me, I say, I know the reasons for

817
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 9: people going to different schools are different now, but if

818
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 9: you're going to be here, be here.

819
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 10: Don't have your mind somewhere else.

820
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 9: Find whatever reason it is you're here, and do it

821
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 9: for that at this school.

822
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 10: And then I go on to.

823
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 9: The tradition of oe you if you're gonna wear these

824
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 9: colors while you're here, at least uphold what we are

825
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 9: standard is while you're here. If you want to leave

826
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 9: after that, then go, that's fine. If you don't want

827
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 9: to be here, you don't have to be here, but

828
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 9: why you're here uphold this standard that this school has

829
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 9: always had. So that's kind of my message to the

830
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 9: new generation because I know it's different reasons why kids

831
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 9: are going there.

832
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: So you gave you a better deal than the US. Seriously,

833
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: I wish hey keep killing it there on NFL Network.

834
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: Great to have you on. We appreciate your time.

835
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 10: Hey, I appreciate you. I hav me any time.

836
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: That's a Gerald McCoy