1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to a special off season edition of the from 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: the Podium podcast. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: I'm Gabe Killa. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: We are officially one week out from the twenty twenty 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: five NFL Draft in Green Bay. On this episode, you'll 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: hear from Brown's executive vice president and general manager Andrew 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Berry on some of the prospects in the twenty twenty 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: five NFL Draft. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Here is Andrew Berry. 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 3: Okay, so next week's pretty exciting for our team. We 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: get our players back in the building. You know, obviously 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: draft weekend approaching where at least as we sit here today, 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: can add ten you know, rookie players to the roster 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: or drafted rookie players to the roster. So you know, 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: we're pretty pumped as we go into as we go 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: into next week. As I always do it, this time, 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to, uh, you'll really thank our college scouts 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: who make a number of sacrifices over the calendar year, 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: spend a ton of time away from their family, living 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: out a ho tells, you know, really beating the bushes 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: for prospects, getting to know them as players and people, 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: and and it's it's a bit of a thankless job 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: right there. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 2: Behind the scenes. 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: They don't get a ton of credit, which is a 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: big reason why on draft weekend we like to bring 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: them out here to talk to you about the guys 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: that we've picked, you know, so you can hear from them, 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: understand why we value their opinion so highly, and they 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: get a little bit of a little bit of credit, 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: a little bit. 33 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: Of notoriety for the work that they've been doing. 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: I'd also like to to thank you know, Glenn Cook, 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: Max Paulus, Meghan Rock for their for their management of 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: the process. Of course, you know, Catherine Hickman and Andrew 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: Healy for you know, their their work and all of 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: our big decisions, you know, joy to pie check and 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: uh Kathleen would for their work in terms of our 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: security and and legal and and player background. You know, 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: all those those individuals you know contribute above and beyond. 42 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: So we're excited, we're ready to go. And with that, 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: I'll open up for questions. 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: I spoke to at the leading meetings about draft strategy. 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: So you know, after the prods kind of come together, 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: you formally draft strategy with all signs pointing to the 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: Titans taking cam wred. Do you have that draft strategy 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: and plan, you know, if that was to happen. 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: So a big part is a big part of this, 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, this week and then going into next week 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: is what we call scenario planning and strategy planning. So 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: we're really right in the thick of it, you know, Daniel. 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: And that's not to say that you know, there hasn't 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: been any thought of it at this point. You know, 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: that would be disingenuous. But uh, you know, we're we'll 56 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: use the whole shot clock, so to speak. You know, 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: we don't have to make start making decisions until you know, 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: really Thursday night. Uh, And so we'll use all the 59 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: time afforded to us, and you know, make sure that 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: we have a thorough plan depending on you know, what 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: happens at number one. 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 5: See uh Hunter you know, uh, I guess talking about 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: wanting to play basically all the time. 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 6: And how how do you see him? 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 7: What about that? 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 6: Is it practical in the NFL? 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: So I think one of the things that is like 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: you can't probably fully appreciate until you actually see Travis 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: play live is just his elite conditioning, like you know, 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: going out and seeing him play a you know, a 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: Colorado he I mean, he really never comes off the 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: field and and it's it's it's unbelievable because like you know, 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: there are more plays in a college game then there 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: is a there is a pro game, and it's like 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: the guy like he barely pants like that, you know, 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: like that the thing. So it's it's it's quite incredible. 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: You know that being said, you know, what he would 78 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: attempt to do has not you know, been really done 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: in our league. But we wouldn't necessarily put a cap 80 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: or a governor in terms of like what he could do. 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: You know, we would want to be smart in terms 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: of how we how we started out. You know, I 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: think I've mentioned before, you know we would see his 84 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: his first home as receiver in a second home, you know, 85 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: on the defenseid of the ball. 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think, you know, one of the 87 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: big things. 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: What he has a number of rare qualities, but probably 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: the rarest is his ability with the ball, his ball skills. 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: And you know, we would want to put him in 91 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: a position that that maximized that ability. 92 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 6: Okay, good, quite forgot it. 93 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 8: Would you be concerned about the pounding, like the physical 94 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 8: pounding at the aerobic part, but you know that taking 95 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 8: the hits on both sides the ball if he played 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 8: on both. 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Sides for you, Yeah, I think anytime a player across 98 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, cross positions plays more snaps, you know, there 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: certainly is more of that risk. 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: You know. 101 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: That being said, you know, playing on the perimeter positions, 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 3: there's maybe a little bit less contact than there would 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: be as you get closer to the ball. But it's 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: something that like, you know, look, thirty two teams are 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: going to would have to figure that out as they 106 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: think through his through and through his profile, and you 107 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: know there would be some probably like learning on the 108 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: fly if if he were here. 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 8: He has to play on both sides to be worth 110 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 8: that number two pick, because that's kind of how he's 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 8: viewed as a guy that can do both versus. 112 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: Just his one side or the other. No, I don't, 113 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: I don't see it that way. I think it's and 114 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna use a crossboard now. It's a little bit 115 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: like Otani right where you know, when he's playing one side, 116 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: he's he's an outstanding player. If he's if he's a pitcher, 117 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player. You obviously get 118 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: a unicorn if you use them both ways. Yeah, I 119 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: guess without getting in too much into the specific planning, 120 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: because you know, he's he's out here, like you know, 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: we have a decision. But you know, that's something that's 122 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 3: also unique, and it's something that, like I said, every 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: team across the league would would have to figure out. 124 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 7: The snaps you have in the college game, especially he 125 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 7: played compared to the number of snaps at the NFL level, 126 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 7: is that something that you know could benefit him, you know, 127 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 7: even you know, the lesser number of snaps maybe in 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 7: an average about means. 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: I think it's possible, But I think to speak with 130 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: any level of certainty, it's tough because it is it 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: would be new territory, you know, for whatever whatever team 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 3: acquired them. 133 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 9: Developing your strategy, do you have. 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 10: Specific people in your office assigned to specific teams to 135 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 10: try to gauge what they're up to and what they 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 10: might offer in a trade to jump ahead. 137 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 2: At a certain point. That's a good question, Tony. 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 11: So I. 139 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: So obviously we have a pro scouting staff that it's 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: I'd say the probably the best way to describe it 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: is no different than we have area scouts who we 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: say you have to be experts in your area, know 143 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: your schools. You know, with our pro group, you know, 144 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: they have to know their teams inside and out. So 145 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: in terms of call it the the research aspect, in 146 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 3: terms of you know, how they think about the roster, 147 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: you know, tendencies with you know, with the coaching staff 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: or the GM or whatever, that would largely reside reside 149 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: with our you know, our pro scouting staff as well 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: as our research and strategy group in terms of you know, 151 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: discussions or increase you know, things like that that would 152 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: be that would be more. 153 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: With our executive group division. 154 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Uh, let's say, let's say loosely, like loosely it doesn't 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: maybe quite work out that that cleanly, but but loosely speaking. 156 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: That's probably a good way to think about it. 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 6: Travis. 158 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: I'll go here, how much of the way you do 159 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Travis positionally is positional value versus what you think he 160 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: is better at? 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Just what do we think he's better in? 162 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: He's great at both, Like I want to be clear, 163 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: he's great at both, because I think that got a 164 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: little bit uh unfair traction last time I talked about this. 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 10: So weake of you guys going out to Colorado. 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 12: It seems like within the next day everyone in the 167 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 12: whole country was Browns are taking Travis Hunter off the trail. 168 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: It's funny how that works out, and maybe. 169 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 12: Off the Abdul Carter set as well. So is that 170 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 12: an accurate perception of where you guys are right now? 171 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 12: Are you off of Schador, off of Abdul and. 172 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: Focusing It's like why I mentioned with Daniel, we're we're 173 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: still working through everything. You know, we have not made 174 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: a hard decision in terms of, you know, how we're 175 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: gonna utilize the the number two pick. There are a 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: number of guys that we like, you know, our travels, 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: they were, uh, the logical touch points that you would 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: make for all prospects who are worthy of being consideration 179 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: that high in the draft, and that's just happened to be. 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: I think maybe a lot of times Mary Kaye just 181 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: becomes like the last place that you stopped. 182 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: But but we're still working through everything. 183 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: Would there's there's a there's a chance that all options 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: are on the war Maybe I should say. 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 8: That you have the combine. 186 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 13: I know as a whole you talked about this quarterback 187 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 13: class and feeling like there are guys there who can 188 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 13: be really good NFL players. I guess now that you're 189 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 13: through the combine, you're through these pro days, Like, do 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 13: you still feel like there are multiple guys with starting 191 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 13: potential in this league that that could be helpful to 192 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 13: this team? 193 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: I do, Actually, I think. 194 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, we were actually talking about this yesterday and 195 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: one of our strategy sessions. Actually, Daniel as you're on 196 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: your phone, But I'm give you a hard time. I've 197 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: given you a hard time. I'm given you a hard 198 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: time that I think that a lot of the quarterback 199 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: position is, you know, the environment that you put the 200 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: individual in. You know, whether that's what teammates s grammatically, 201 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: what you asked them to do and honestly what you 202 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: asked them to do early in their career. And I 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: think you're starting to see it more and more across 204 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: the league that quarterbacks can produce in a number of 205 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: different ways. 206 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: You know, the way that Josh Allen. 207 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: Produces is a lot different than the way that Rock 208 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: Party produces. You know, the way that the system that 209 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Too runs is a lot different than the system that 210 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson runs. And you know, I think it's of 211 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: great importance for any organization bringing in a quarterback to 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: understanding what that individual does well and how you both 213 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: build build an offense and design a scheme to accentuate 214 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: that individual strength, because I think as long as they 215 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: have a level of baseline talent, you can have a 216 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: productive player at the position as long as you're thoughtful 217 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: in terms of building. 218 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: The environment around him. Every team has its own first 219 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: round pick right now. That's rare. 220 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Is it just happened that way or do you think 221 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: teams just don't want to give them up. 222 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: I think it just happened that way. Yeah. 223 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 9: Identifying the quarterback you want and when to take the 224 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 9: biggest challenge of. 225 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: Your draft, I don't know that I would necessarily put 226 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: it that way, Tony. Obviously quarterbacks the most important position. 227 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing that we're thinking about going 228 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: into this draft is really just adding good player and 229 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: good prospects, you know, not overthinking that way, Like, can't 230 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I say you dictate the draft, although certainly you have 231 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: more influence when you're picking as high as we are 232 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: this year, But we're really just looking at good players. 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 13: How much does your plans and what you've already done 234 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 13: in free agency shape what you're doing in the draft, 235 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 13: and then vice versa. 236 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: How much will the draft then go into your plans 237 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: for free agency. 238 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: There is there is some interplay. 239 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that it's it's one that drives the other, 240 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: but it could influence the level of investment that you 241 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: would make at a certain position once you get to 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: get to April. But that being said, depending on how 243 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: the draft falls, our goal and our thought process is 244 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: making sure that we can add as many players that 245 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: we think can be, you know, very high quality long 246 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: term contributors. And you know, sometimes you know that may 247 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: not be like you know in a parent you know 248 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: need or an apparent uh or maybe like an obvious 249 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: pick at the spot, but just the player is too 250 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: good to pass up. 251 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 11: In this quarterback classes, it's not as strong as your 252 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 11: typical quarterback classes, and not asking if you feel that way, 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 11: but does bring it back Joe Flacco give you more 254 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 11: latitude maybe to look at a guy through a more 255 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 11: of a long term lens, like a developmental lens. You 256 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 11: know you can bring you can draft someone in the 257 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 11: middle rounds that you can develop and just kind of 258 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 11: have Joe keep the seat warm, as opposed to having 259 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 11: the urgency of finding that guy in this draft and 260 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 11: getting him on the field as quickly as possible. 261 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. 262 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that that's the case at all, Darryl, 263 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: Like we wouldn't consider, you know, signing Joe as having 264 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: any real impact in terms of how we would view 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: taking a quarterback in the draft. You know, we firmly 266 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: believe that it's not about picking a player who's you know, 267 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: ready to contribute now. It's about trying to find the 268 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: player that you think is going to be the best 269 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: if you have access to that to that player. 270 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 5: And. 271 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: You know, look, I think you can think about uh, 272 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his whole first year. You know, 273 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: Josh Allen, it really took to year three for him 274 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: to to become Josh Allen. You know, Lamar probably hit 275 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: the ground running pretty quickly. You know Jalen Hurts like 276 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: there were there were doubts about him until he probably 277 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: hit year three. So quarterbacks mature and grow at their 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: own pace. And our thought isn't in terms of immediacy, 279 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: but making the next long term bet. 280 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 14: What do you think, Andrew, What do you do you 281 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 14: make of Travis Hunter's comments earlier this week about not 282 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 14: playing football if you can't play both sides of the pond. 283 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: How does that affect your strategy? 284 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: It really doesn't. 285 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, calculating the value of moving on let's just say 286 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 9: from thirty three into the first round. Are you making 287 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 9: those calculations right now so that on a knight of 288 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 9: the draft you'll know how far you want to go 289 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 9: if you want. 290 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: So that's something that we actually have, I guess call 291 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: it like living, breathing kind of market value, so to speak. 292 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: So that's it's it's it's not something that we have 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: to like re call it, like retabulate necessarily every year, Tony. 294 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: We generally know like the pricing if you want to move, 295 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: if you want to move up, or what you would 296 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: receive if you move back. 297 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly that comes. 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: Into play with with with any of those decisions as 299 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: you get on the clock. 300 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 11: When when it comes to the quarterback position, there's always 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 11: so much said about, you. 302 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 15: Know, this year's class versus next year's class and sort 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 15: of comparing how teams are already sort of projecting ahead. 304 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just curious from your guys' perspective, and 305 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm not. 306 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 15: It could be this year, but it could be future years. 307 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Too, Like how do you guys, how much. 308 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 11: Evaluation can actually happen and go. 309 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 15: On in terms of like what's to come in future 310 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 15: years at that position to allow you guys to make 311 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 15: the best decision on what you. 312 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Want to do, like how much are you actually waiting? 313 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: So we do, you know, particularly with quarterback, we do 314 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: look at those classes two years at a time as 315 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: opposed to one year at a time. So it is 316 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: something that we think about. But there's also a lot 317 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: that changes from year to year, so it's it's not 318 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: like it's not like that can necessarily be be set 319 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: in stone. 320 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: You know. 321 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: Players take a step forward in their growth, some take 322 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: a step back, and some come out of nowhere. So 323 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: you can't necessarily use that as a hard and fast rule, 324 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: but it is something. 325 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: That that we like to have you I like to 326 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: think about in the background. 327 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 8: How do you I'm j okay, you expect him to 328 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 8: be here next in twenty twenty five? 329 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, you know j O case timeline. I 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: think I mentioned the last time. It is a bit nebulous. 331 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: He is progressing, you know, But again, right now, I 332 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: don't have necessarily like a definitive date for you, Jeff. 333 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 5: You brought in Joe now and you have to get 334 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 5: the thought process between putting those two together. As your 335 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 5: veteran guys, how are you going to run like. 336 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 6: Who starts or whatever? 337 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll answer your second question first, Terry. You know, 338 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: it's about breeding competition and you know, whatever that room 339 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: looks like as we go into the spring and then 340 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: probably most importantly training camp. You know, all those individuals 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: will have a chance to. 342 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: Compete to be the starter. Uh. 343 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: In terms of in terms of Joe versus Kenny, you know, 344 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: Joe I kind of mentioned earlier. You know, he can 345 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: he can fit a number of different spots in the room. 346 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: We obviously know him well. He's an excellent play action passer, 347 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: you know, you know, we fund he functions kind of 348 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: in our you know, in our system with Kenny younger, 349 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: guy mobile, very smart, protects the ball. I think there's 350 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: more you know, physical ability in him. A guy we 351 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: did a lot of work on, you know, in that 352 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: you know, in that draft process, and obviously you know, 353 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: saw him twice a year when he was in when 354 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: he was in Pittsburgh, and so we think there's you know, 355 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: there's there's there's more to get out of them. 356 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 9: There, Carter, that run worked out or done much since 357 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 9: the season ended. 358 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 6: What is your understanding of this availability or an off 359 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 6: season day. 360 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say more generally, Tony. You know, our. 361 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: Medical staff is is not necessarily concerned about, you know, 362 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: any any health risks with him. 363 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 8: Do you feel like you need to come out of 364 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 8: this draft with your long term answer going back? 365 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 6: Or is that something that I. 366 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 13: If you guys don't find that guy, you'd be willing 367 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 13: to address later. 368 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, I think the biggest thing for us is 369 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: we want to have, you know, long term players across 370 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: the roster. You know, we're not gonna necessarily for something 371 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: if we if we don't think you know, the values 372 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: right or anything along those lines, But we want to 373 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: be thoughtful and discipline and our decision making. 374 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 8: Between picks. 375 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 16: Plays you like to off the board, but the quarterback 376 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 16: do you feel more dangerous if the longer you wait, 377 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 16: just because there's fewer of them? So whether it's two 378 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 16: to thirty three or thirty three to sixty seven that 379 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 16: if you don't take one, then you know the guys 380 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 16: you like may. 381 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 3: Be gone, Uh not really, Scott, like I think, I 382 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: think it certainly depends on the player, right, and it 383 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: depends on where you're picking, you know, but we don't 384 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: necessarily we won't pick based on panic. 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: I guess maybe that's the way of characterising it. 386 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 12: I'm in addition to shador On, some of the other 387 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 12: quarterbacks such as Jalen Jameson Tyler. Uh, do you envision 388 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 12: that one of those guys would have just as good 389 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 12: a chance to come in here and start. 390 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: As shador I think that's hard to say, Mary Kay, 391 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think that it just the reality is, 392 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: like every situation is different. Every player, you know, acclimates 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: you know differently. Like I think back to it was 394 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: this twenty I'm gonna say twenty three, and you look 395 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: at you know Bryce, and you know bryceon CJ. Bryce 396 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: had played a lot of football and played at SEC 397 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: at Alabama. It took him a little bit of time 398 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: to get a sea legs in Carolina, whereas like with CJ, 399 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: you know, there were probably more questions about him going 400 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: to process and he hit the ground running. So I 401 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 3: just think there are there are plenty of those examples 402 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: where you really just don't know how they'll how they'll transition, 403 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: and why it's important to have patients at the position. 404 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 12: More privates with anybody between now and draft day. 405 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: No, we will not. 406 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 5: Think. 407 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 10: I don't think you've drafted a player over the age 408 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 10: of twenty five. So why is Tyler Shuck of interest 409 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 10: to you? 410 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 411 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: You know, tell you So, I think one, it's probably 412 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: rare to have players come into the draft that are 413 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: twenty five or older. So I think that that's one, 414 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: it's probably a little bit of like a selection bias. 415 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: And two, you know, age is certainly a part of 416 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 3: the equation, but it's not it's not like some type 417 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: of end a you all. 418 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: It just adds context to the performance. 419 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: And so like I, you know, I wouldn't like it's 420 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: a factor, but I wouldn't say it's it's like there's 421 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: any hard and fast. 422 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 6: Rule process would bringing flag go back? 423 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's what I mentioned with Darryl earlier. You know, 424 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: we we know Joe he fits in the system. You know, 425 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: we think he's a quarterback that can fit in any 426 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: of the the spots of the QB room. You know, 427 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: whether he's a short term starter, you know, whether he's 428 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: in the backup quarterback role. You know, he's excellent and 429 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 3: he certainly fit you know, our kind of like our 430 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: resource allocation from a roster planning standpoint. 431 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 11: With Jaylen Bilro how much with having Tommy in the 432 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 11: building helps with that evaluation and. 433 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: That helps a lot, Like I mean, for to have 434 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: you know, r O C. Having been at Alabama with 435 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: him for a full year, calling place for him, you know, 436 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: knowing his strengths and weaknesses, it helps a lot. 437 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 11: Five top four picks of this draft. How much pressure 438 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 11: sure is there on you to find guys that, considering 439 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 11: where the roster is cap and all that, to find 440 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 11: some guys in those picks that can come in and. 441 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 6: Help you on day one. 442 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: We don't really look at it that way, Daryl, Like 443 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: it's really really honestly, the feeling is excitement. It's really 444 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: just that I mentioned this before, like you know, probably 445 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: similar to the quarterback response, like it's not about focusing 446 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: on okay, well, who can hit the ground running fastest? 447 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: Is focus on who can be the best of maturity. 448 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: And that's how we're approaching. 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 12: The players available to you at number two or so 450 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 12: called transformational players there. Do you envision just staying right 451 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 12: there and taking a Travis or. 452 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: Someone I'd say this, Mary, Kay, we will make the 453 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: decision that we think you know, maximizes the impact on 454 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: the team. You know, whether that's selecting a player, you know, 455 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: whether it's that's using the resource otherwise. You know where 456 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: it's moving on, moving down, training it for a veteran 457 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: like we're going to use it. 458 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: That's to maximize it. 459 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 6: I don't cay you placed on. 460 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: The bid year Popkin, where you're thirty three, where it 461 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 8: would be worth giving up some kind of asset to. 462 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 6: Move back to the first time. 463 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: Honestly, not a ton. Yeah, when you. 464 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 13: Talk about, you know, taking players where they're valued and 465 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 13: not like overreaching, I guess with to go back to 466 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 13: Scott's point with quarterback, is it just different because of 467 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 13: the overall positional value? Is it different for every position? 468 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 13: Like are they on their own kind of scale in 469 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 13: terms of taking someone where their value? 470 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: But I don't think so. Actually, I think that a 471 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: certain level of performance, Like all I've always said that 472 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: all positions aren't created equal, and so maybe a certain 473 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: level of performance at one position is going to have 474 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: a higher impact on whins your team than maybe a 475 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: higher level of performance at a less impactful position. So 476 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: that kind of gets baked in. It's not just a 477 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: pure okay, like call it one through two fifty ranking 478 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: of like who's the best player. 479 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: Type type thing. But I think. 480 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: The fl you're all given the same resources. Every team 481 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: is given the same resource, right, same amount of dollars, 482 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: same amount of picks. You know that obviously ebbs and 483 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: flows from year to year as you trade, and it's 484 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: important for us to be able to allocate those resources 485 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: in a way that in the most efficient way that 486 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: allows us to get the best value. And so that's 487 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 3: how we think about it with the draft. That's how 488 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: we think about it with our you know, with our contracts, 489 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, which is why we're so focused on that. 490 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: Part of it is a general question. You know, you're 491 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: read at this time of the. 492 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 6: Year, these guys are rising falling. 493 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 16: How much is your draft board been altered since I 494 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 16: come by? 495 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Uh, there have been some alterations based on you know, 496 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, medical, mental. 497 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: Character fit. Some guys that were. 498 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: You know, as we continue to do work with the film, 499 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say more generally late in the process, 500 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: we don't have these like wild swings, so to speak. 501 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: It's probably a little bit more tweaking than anything. 502 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 14: A big deal for the organization. Obviously, pretty much everyone 503 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 14: was there. Why did you guys feel was so important 504 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 14: to have everyone there? 505 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 6: Important have them? 506 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 11: Yeah? 507 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: I think it's Look, anytime you're picking this high, you 508 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: want to, you want to. You're hoping that it's going 509 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: to be a player that's going to be with your 510 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: organization for fifteen years or something along those lines, and 511 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: you're hoping to build a relationship with that player and 512 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: his family for along, you know, a long period of time. Right, 513 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 3: No different than Miles, Right, you know Miles, you know, 514 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: we'll retire as a Brown and you know, going to 515 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, and you know, we've known him 516 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: since he's been twenty one years old, known you know, 517 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: Lawrence and Audrey since you know, since his college days. 518 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: And that's a really special, uh you know relationship. And 519 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: so you're only in these positions a handful of times, 520 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: and we feel like it's importan for us to establish 521 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: those relationships early, not just when they just get into 522 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: the building. 523 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 12: Is trading any of your current veterans on the draft weekends? 524 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule anything out, Mary, Kay, I wouldn't. I 525 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't say. 526 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: That that's necessarily like top of mine. 527 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: But I think back a couple of years ago with 528 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: with Troy Hill, we weren't necessarily going into the weekend 529 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: thinking that that was going to be an active trade. 530 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: You know, Martin was available in a trade back. We 531 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: were able to shed some salary and get an additional pick, 532 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: So it made sense for us at the time. Now, 533 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule again being opportunistic out. 534 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 17: Yeah, quarterbacks almost like restaurants and the location has a 535 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 17: lot to do. So when you know what you'll like 536 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 17: Jackson gar he plays our mill rum because I used 537 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 17: to think and their their styles are different. 538 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: But how does that translate to the pros? How does 539 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 5: that work in your thinking? And talk a little bit 540 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 5: aboutey to those guys. 541 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you know they're they're both 542 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: excellent players. You know, I think you know Jalen he's 543 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: got rare physical talent. You know, he may may be 544 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: the only when he gets in the NFL, he may 545 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: be the only quarterback who's faster than than Lamar. 546 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Don't tell Lamar said that, please. 547 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: Uh, He's got he's got rare physical gifts. You know, 548 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: he's he's strong, he's fast, he's got a really strong arm, 549 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: and any system that you build around him, you want 550 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: to take advantage of the fact that he has things 551 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 3: that no other players at the position, at the position have. 552 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: You know, Jackson, he's very well rounded. You know, he 553 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: can run it, he can throw it, he's accurate. You know, 554 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: he's a good decision maker. You know he's i'd say 555 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: he's pretty scheme versatile, so to speak. So look, I 556 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: think you know both those guys, in the proper situation 557 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: can be really good NFL players. 558 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 15: Skewing younger obviously at the the owners means a couple 559 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 15: of weeks ago and that are along those lines with 560 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 15: Joe sort of coming back and fold here, would you 561 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 15: say that in additions to that room at this point 562 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 15: pretty much you guys have your eyes more so on 563 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 15: the draft than necessarily going out and looking in free 564 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 15: agency to add maybe another veteran. 565 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't ruled anything out. 566 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: Like I'd say, again, it's about if an opportunity comes 567 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: up that makes sense, we'll take advantage of it. 568 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 16: Two more, do you expect DeShawn Watson to be available 569 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 16: for you at any point in twenty twenty five. 570 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: It's too early to say, Jeff. I can say that 571 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: Deshaun's done a great job of reabbing he's been in 572 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: every day. He's progressing and that's really our focus. But 573 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: it's just too early to say. 574 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: So how do you differentiate who you send the. 575 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 14: House to so to speak to these different produce Obviously 576 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 14: there's a. 577 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 6: Lot of produce because they're heading to I can't be at. 578 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 14: All once, But how do you kind of differentiate how 579 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 14: you guys? 580 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: So I'd say for us, you know, quarterbacks most important position, 581 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: so we'll be pretty liberal there and then outside of that, 582 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's if it's non quarterbacks, you know, it's 583 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: guys that would be consideration at you know, this high 584 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: in the draft. 585 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode of the From the 586 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Podium Podcast. 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