Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hey. What's your name?
Speaker 1: My name's Anthony, Anthony.
Speaker 2: What's up, Anthony? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Not too bad? How about you? Man?
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there another day, alive on the earth.
Speaker 1: You're right on.
Speaker 2: What's going on with you? Man?
Speaker 1: Not too much. I'm recently moving to Harrisburg after a
Speaker 1: three and a half year relationship breaking up. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been crashing with my friends. I've been using veterans assistance.
Speaker 1: I actually just got the call today that I'm improved
Speaker 1: to move into the new apartment in the city that
Speaker 1: I wanted to move into.
Speaker 2: You're a veteran, yes, sir. I actually was about to
Speaker 2: ask you if I thought you were like seventeen.
Speaker 1: No, man, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you have a youth yeah voice.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 2: What are you? A veteran of the Air Force?
Speaker 1: I did the network defense for the Air Force in
Speaker 1: a place I'm not going to say where.
Speaker 2: Cool. So what kind of benefits do you get as
Speaker 2: a veteran.
Speaker 1: Of the veteran things a little complication?
Speaker 2: Taylor's Hey, man, are you are you like holding your
Speaker 2: hand over the phone or anything like that, or walking
Speaker 2: around trying.
Speaker 1: To I'm holding it right up next to my face.
Speaker 2: Here, Okay, you're good. There we go. Okay, sorry saying no.
Speaker 1: The Veterans thing, I was only in for two and
Speaker 1: a half years because I had some pretty like fucked
Speaker 1: up what's the word I'm looking for leadership, Like my
Speaker 1: very high ranked officers would come to like two thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning room inspections on me and random shit
Speaker 1: like that. So they got me out before I had
Speaker 1: all four years and not all benefits I'm available to.
Speaker 1: So because my boyfriend or my ex boyfriend only gave
Speaker 1: me such a limited amount of time forty days to
Speaker 1: leave the apartment, I had to rely on their anti
Speaker 1: homelessness assistants to go through those avenues.
Speaker 2: And so now are you moving to a place that
Speaker 2: is sponsored by the Veterans Association?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: So there's an apartment complex like owning company that the
Speaker 1: Veterans affairs and then another local assistance program. They work
Speaker 1: hand in hand with them, and they'll cover rent for
Speaker 1: me for a whole year. They'll put the utilities in
Speaker 1: my name, but also cover utilities so that I can
Speaker 1: build credit. And the goal is to show significant improvement
Speaker 1: over the course of three and sixty five days and
Speaker 1: then take over the leaf.
Speaker 5: At the end.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, good, So what is it? What does it
Speaker 2: mean to show significant improvement?
Speaker 1: See, what that's going to look like is switching job careers.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm I'm working for a company where I
Speaker 1: get to be part time chef for a retirement center
Speaker 1: and then part time maintenance for the other side of
Speaker 1: their campus. But with all of this in mind, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be training for HVAC since there's such a
Speaker 1: big need for that and that's going to be really
Speaker 1: hard to replace by AI. So I'm gonna be getting
Speaker 1: my h VAC certification, showing that I have like enough
Speaker 1: in savings, showing that I can keep up with like
Speaker 1: other bills and things like that, just like, yeah, showing
Speaker 1: I can be a responsible adult.
Speaker 2: Really okay? And how do you feel about your ability
Speaker 2: to do all those.
Speaker 1: Things the same time? You know, like.
Speaker 2: Just a little bit every Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry, uh no, I'm excited and nervous about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I am capable of doing it. It's
Speaker 1: just going to be a lot of work to have
Speaker 1: a full time job, settling into a new apartment, getting
Speaker 1: to know the city that I'm living in, and then
Speaker 1: also going to school to get my h VAC certification
Speaker 1: as well. So it's a lot to get on my
Speaker 1: plate all at once, but I feel good about it
Speaker 1: and I feel to take on the next year.
Speaker 2: Sick very good. Yeah, So what happened with your ex?
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, his mom gave him an ultimatum where he
Speaker 1: could stay with me in the state that we were
Speaker 1: living in and not receive any more assistance from her
Speaker 1: because he was having a hard time holding the job
Speaker 1: and things, or he could go home work for his
Speaker 1: mom's online business, live rent free, have his debt continue
Speaker 1: to be paid, and stay with mom. And he ended
Speaker 1: up choosing to go home instead.
Speaker 2: Okay, So and then that was the end of you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've been living in this state for like
Speaker 1: ten years, and I have a really large support network
Speaker 1: and a full time job, and all of this news
Speaker 1: was only brought to me with forty days notice, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't pack up my life to move to a
Speaker 1: different state in forty days. And I explained that to him,
Speaker 1: but it was more important that he went home.
Speaker 2: So you're moving to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Yeah, Yeah, what's going
Speaker 2: on in Harrisburg Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, South Central PA is the like mecca of
Speaker 1: the metal scene, which I'm like huge on right now.
Speaker 1: I always have been since I was in high school.
Speaker 1: It's mostly Lancaster, but Harrisburg has a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: for it, like JB Love Drafts. Best fucking place to
Speaker 1: hang out in Harrisburg for sure. It's this little like
Speaker 1: punk dive bar on Second Street. Yeah, best place did
Speaker 1: they do? Like free music every Fridays, all kinds of events,
Speaker 1: good like craft beers, good food. Yeah, awesome place. I
Speaker 1: was just at Pride on Saturday and had all kinds
Speaker 1: of fun with that. Yeah, it's just a cool city
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to like get to know it more
Speaker 1: outside of like visiting it once every couple of months
Speaker 1: to go to a bar.
Speaker 2: What So that's so random that there's a big heavy
Speaker 2: metal scene in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Did that come to be?
Speaker 1: There's just like a lot of up and coming artists
Speaker 1: coming out of like South Central Pa in general, Like
Speaker 1: I said, specifically Lancaster with like August Burns Red, I
Speaker 1: mean the other band I'm thinking of my favorite Galactic Empire. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like there's that, and then there's Mickey's Black Box out
Speaker 1: in Lancaster too, which is like this rock campus that
Speaker 1: has two stages, hotels and like restaurants and all this
Speaker 1: stuff and studios for rent. So like any band can
Speaker 1: just like get time there, stay there, produce however much
Speaker 1: they need, get help producing it, and then go on
Speaker 1: with their lives.
Speaker 2: And are you do you play in a band.
Speaker 1: I used to play in like a like a normal
Speaker 1: cover band that we would do like birthdays and bars.
Speaker 1: But I haven't been able to get into a metal
Speaker 1: band yet.
Speaker 2: Are is that one of your plans when you go
Speaker 2: to Harrisburg, You're gonna get into a metal band?
Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be dope as hell. But like really,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like just be known in the
Speaker 1: scene in general, because I just love music scenes and
Speaker 1: I and I did the like local artist in Carlisle thing,
Speaker 1: and now I want to like get to know the
Speaker 1: metal scene better, just a little more, like personally.
Speaker 2: How does one get to be known in the scene.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just gonna be like hanging
Speaker 1: out of JB's get introducing myself to different bands, figuring
Speaker 1: out where they're doing other shows, going to shows for
Speaker 1: bands that I like, Uh, I used to work merche,
Speaker 1: so I'm always talking to the merch guys about like
Speaker 1: what they're doing and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's just about like networking and getting to
Speaker 1: know people.
Speaker 2: All right, man, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: I'll let me ask you this, uh caller, is there
Speaker 2: anything in particular that you wanted to call in to
Speaker 2: talk about today or just kind of.
Speaker 1: Kind of just shoot the shit about like what's been
Speaker 1: going on, kind of like I did with you so far.
Speaker 1: If there's anything in specific that seems interesting to talk
Speaker 1: about them down for that too.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in the in the in the Air Force, Yeah,
Speaker 2: did mean to you.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, I'm actually I'm pursuing a
Speaker 1: disability claim because of it.
Speaker 2: Wait really how does that work?
Speaker 1: So basically I was I was diagnosed to a few
Speaker 1: different like mental illnesses because of the events that happened
Speaker 1: during my stay at my permanent duty station, which just
Speaker 1: means like the place where you're supposed to be for
Speaker 1: your job. And yeah, just the the environment of harassment, uh,
Speaker 1: the twisting of Air Force standards so that I was
Speaker 1: set up to fail or specifically removing avenues of health
Speaker 1: and assistance from me and me only, along with like yeah,
Speaker 1: the random room inspections, the like constant supervision. There was
Speaker 1: one point I even got moved out of my section
Speaker 1: and the only person I was allowed to report to
Speaker 1: was the supervisor of the division that I was working for.
Speaker 1: It had to create an environment of harassment and fear,
Speaker 1: and it resulted in me getting PTSD, anxiety depression and
Speaker 1: like a severe distrust of authority.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that sounds that sounds air force E. That
Speaker 2: sounds very it sure does. Yeah, yep, okay, and now
Speaker 2: you're going to go into HVAC.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because you know, computers are fine, but all
Speaker 1: the certifications I got are at this point like eleven
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and AI is moving so fast with computers.
Speaker 1: It's not really worth it for the effort versus reward.
Speaker 1: It's not worth it for me to just like go
Speaker 1: in and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah everything.
Speaker 2: There's a flip I feel like where it's like blue
Speaker 2: white collar work is now going to be worth less
Speaker 2: than blue collar work.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically they look at my diagnoses and then
Speaker 1: they're like they have me do a doctor's appointments and
Speaker 1: they're like, yes, you do have depression, anxiety, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And it looks like it was from that. So here's
Speaker 1: your disability.
Speaker 2: Check well, and how much how much can we get
Speaker 2: from disability? What's what's that about?
Speaker 1: So that really depends on what I get rated for
Speaker 1: my percentage. That can be anywhere from like five hundred
Speaker 1: twice a month for thirty percent up to two for
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Now is that like based because I assume this is
Speaker 2: based off of expenses that you incur as a result
Speaker 2: of these things, or is it just like.
Speaker 1: Now, Actually it's really it's it's it's literally like an
Speaker 1: I'm sorry check and they're like, hey, this this all
Speaker 1: this stuff happened to you. That was real. We're sorry
Speaker 1: about that. You were not owed to that. Therefore, here's
Speaker 1: the money as and I'm sorry and you'll get that
Speaker 1: until you die.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's going slower. But the assistance with the VA.
Speaker 1: They did get me the approval for the apartment like
Speaker 1: fucking today, and that was really exciting.
Speaker 2: And are you living in this apartment by yourself? You
Speaker 2: got roommates.
Speaker 1: I will be living in the apartment by myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, very cool. So h VAC, I mean this
Speaker 2: is a is a cool life. All right. So you
Speaker 2: got you got your h VAC job, which ain't getting
Speaker 2: taken by AI anytime soon. Right, you're going out to
Speaker 2: heavy metal shows. You got a little bit of a
Speaker 2: government beer money. We'll call it. Yep, great, great, Uh
Speaker 2: anecdote for depression beer not well, no, I mean not sometimes. No,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not a good idea. It's really nice, actually, dude.
Speaker 1: One thing I'd be really excited to talk to you
Speaker 1: about is all this stuff has happened in my life
Speaker 1: has had me contemplating suffering and what I mean by
Speaker 1: why are you.
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Because your your podcast, dude, I listened to it all
Speaker 1: the time, like anytime there's a new episode on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I got that ship running while I'm at work, and
Speaker 1: you and you talk to a lot of people about
Speaker 1: a lot of really cool philosophical topics, and I kind
Speaker 1: of just wanted to like launch some of the thoughts
Speaker 1: I've had about suffering at you. If that's cool, all right,
Speaker 1: let's do it, Okay. So one of the first things
Speaker 1: I've come to is suffering is just like the self is,
Speaker 1: it just exists. It's not inherently good, it's not inherently bad.
Speaker 1: You don't inherently gain something good from some from suffering,
Speaker 1: and you don't inherently gain something bad.
Speaker 6: It just is.
Speaker 1: So what I've what I've come to think, is like
Speaker 1: I should accept suffering as the baseline of life. That
Speaker 1: just is life. To live is to suffer. But in
Speaker 1: the acceptance and knowing of that, I can then circumvent
Speaker 1: that and find other avenues of finding my joy. Peace
Speaker 1: or what I've found to be spiritually significant is just
Speaker 1: sharing love, whether it's platonic or otherwise with people. That's
Speaker 1: really where that suffering is lessened, and I find more
Speaker 1: joy and contentment in sharing love and just trying to
Speaker 1: find the ways to like, not necessarily ignore suffering, because
Speaker 1: I think it's important to acknowledge it, but you know,
Speaker 1: find ways to smile even though you're suffering.
Speaker 2: Oh God, man, yeah, I know, I know you mean,
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: I don't yet want to accept that existence is suffering.
Speaker 1: Okay, So why is that?
Speaker 2: Why is that? Because that's just such you know what's man,
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you this in this moment, is that
Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean, yeah, you know you
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast and you know you hear me
Speaker 2: talk about philosophy and stuff. I don't know if philosophy
Speaker 2: has yet. I mean, I'm on a it's a continuing journey,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's had a great impact
Speaker 2: on my life.
Speaker 4: Philosophy I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's like taking your brain to the gym.
Speaker 1: You know, it's.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not it's like no, it's like taking
Speaker 2: my brain and throwing it down a flight of stairs.
Speaker 2: Taking my brain. Taking my brain to the gym is
Speaker 2: like playing chess, or or or dissecting a nucleus or
Speaker 2: some ship. Okay, you know that's training your brain. Philosophy
Speaker 2: I've started. I I honestly, I I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was this morning or yesterday. I was thinking and
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, fuck because my brain has been
Speaker 2: stuck in a lot of like this philosophy shit, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, dude, fuck, just like fuck this. You know, like, well,
Speaker 2: because you know, like you meet, you've you've met. I'm
Speaker 2: sure in the Air Force you met a lot of
Speaker 2: And this is not a dig on the Air Force.
Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with the air Force. But just
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you meet people and when you do things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you met you've met people before where you're like,
Speaker 2: because this fucking guy ever fucking thought about any thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, that that kind of thing
Speaker 1: used to make me Mad's.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you mad anymore, it's still it makes
Speaker 2: me mad. Still, I'm like, and you know what, and
Speaker 2: they're always having a great time. They're always having a
Speaker 2: great time. I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, that's what used to piss
Speaker 1: me off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was having a great time. I don't
Speaker 2: think philosophy, I don't think that like being it like
Speaker 2: when you're an overthinker and you're dissecting things and you're
Speaker 2: like being like awareness and the fuck, you know what.
Speaker 2: The fucking I'm sorry, I'm want suturant right now because
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling this is I don't. I
Speaker 2: almost feel like there was. And by the way, I'm hope.
Speaker 2: I'd love to chat with someone who can really change
Speaker 2: my mind about this. I really would, I really truly
Speaker 2: would love to chat with someone who could change my
Speaker 2: mind about this. But I think we were sold or
Speaker 2: talked or or whatever that like consciousness was some kind
Speaker 2: of a virtue where the philosophy was virtue, you know.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I believe that anymore. I
Speaker 2: had a conversation, yes I was talking to I was
Speaker 2: talking to someone yesterday and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I used to like, if I saw, like a seventy
Speaker 2: eight year old guy, uh in line at a grocery store,
Speaker 2: he's yet and he's yelling at the cashier. That's a
Speaker 2: guy with no consciousness. That's the guy doesn't that's a
Speaker 2: guy with no consciousness. He doesn't think about his own mortality.
Speaker 2: He's probably not thinking about other people. He's not he's
Speaker 2: not really thinking about suffering. He's not just I want
Speaker 2: to fish this thought. But yeah, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: thinking about those things. I think he's deeply enthralled in
Speaker 2: the moment with his anger. He's his his emotions and
Speaker 2: his anger are grounding him in the present, and he's
Speaker 2: kind of and he's guiding he's being guided by them.
Speaker 2: His emotions are are throwing him around and guiding him.
Speaker 2: And he sees something on the news and he gets
Speaker 2: pissed off, and someone like and every little thing is
Speaker 2: like irking him. And and I used to and I
Speaker 2: used to think that I'm gonna say something so crazy,
Speaker 2: and I and it's okay, this is courted and that
Speaker 2: I'm I'm willing to be challenging that. And I used
Speaker 2: to be like, but that what that's not That's no
Speaker 2: way to live being constantly thrown around by your emotions.
Speaker 2: And now where I look at that guy and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I think that guy is I actually think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of peace in that almost I kind of do.
Speaker 2: I kind of do. I'm like, if you never fucking
Speaker 2: think about anything, you're never thinking about other people, and
Speaker 2: you're never thinking about the world around you, and every
Speaker 2: day is the day that you're in, you're probably like
Speaker 2: doing fun like like that, Like you're probably doing fine,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. That dude's like living
Speaker 1: authentically living authentically living, authentically.
Speaker 2: Present at the expense of a lot of the people
Speaker 2: that he's around.
Speaker 1: The people and that's where he has self work to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's never gonna do the worry he's
Speaker 2: gonna die and he's.
Speaker 1: Just gonna And there's there's sty curmudgeons like that everywhere.
Speaker 2: And whereas if you're if you're so conscious and you're
Speaker 2: thinking about like and you're always thinking about uh, mortality,
Speaker 2: and you're always thinking about you know, all that, and
Speaker 2: you think you think about like whatever, you're like, oh god,
Speaker 2: everyone in you know, you think about like third world countries,
Speaker 2: and you think about like all the suffering, and it's
Speaker 2: always there, no matter what's going on in the news.
Speaker 2: There's always and there's forever, will be, always has been.
Speaker 2: Currently is lots of lots and lots of human suffering
Speaker 2: to dwell upon. And I think if you're thinking about
Speaker 2: those things and you're conscious about them, I think it's you.
Speaker 2: You're It makes you make you depressed, and then you
Speaker 2: start to believe things, and then you start to believe
Speaker 2: things like existence is suffering.
Speaker 1: But I think that, so I don't the suffering is
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, not a negative, Okay.
Speaker 2: And that's where I and that's when I'm challenging myself
Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you about this, is that I
Speaker 2: think there is a way to be conscientious about things
Speaker 2: larger than yourself. But but then you get to choose
Speaker 2: what perspective you want to have on that. So go ahead,
Speaker 2: why is it a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, my best friend is the one that's really
Speaker 1: helping me wrap my head around this, and the way
Speaker 1: he words it is nothing matters. And because of that,
Speaker 1: nothing matters in the light sense, you know. So if
Speaker 1: everything is suffering and nothing in life matters, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, where this tiny little speck
Speaker 1: that is insignificant in comparison to the universe. If all
Speaker 1: of that is going on and nothing matters, then how
Speaker 1: do you live? Your life is completely up to you.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of freedom.
Speaker 2: But that's I don't that spooks me. I have always.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be scary. Yeah, I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be scary. It's cosmic. You're thinking, well
Speaker 1: beyond your singular individual experience and contemplating the cosmos as
Speaker 1: a whole.
Speaker 5: It should be scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you give a meet fuck it. Did you
Speaker 2: ever meet a guy who works at a thing and
Speaker 2: he's like and he's got like a girlfriend and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw a movie and there's like they're fine, fine,
Speaker 2: everything's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think I think there's also like,
Speaker 1: you know, ignorance is bliss, And I don't mean that
Speaker 1: as a negative. I think. I think there are some people,
Speaker 1: whether it's mental illness or you know, soul or whatever
Speaker 1: it is that causes you to contemplate existence. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: even trauma. Like in this specific instance, it's been a
Speaker 1: lot of very difficult life events that have led me
Speaker 1: to contemplating all of this.
Speaker 2: Folks listening to this podcast, I I are you guys
Speaker 2: sick of this? Tell me if you're please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please tell me no, no, no, this.
Speaker 2: Is no no, this has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2: This is nothing to do with this. Do you can
Speaker 2: totally remove call er, you can remove yourself from this
Speaker 2: is me, this is me talking to Okay, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: have to know if the people listening to this podcast
Speaker 2: are sick of this because I've I've been I think
Speaker 2: this year specifically, I've been getting too philosophical. Let me
Speaker 2: know in the normally, in the comments if when people
Speaker 2: get pissed off about things, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: why you guys are pissed off about that, But if
Speaker 2: let me know if this is too much, if you're like,
Speaker 2: I had to stop listening because I don't want to
Speaker 2: have an existential crisis every time I'm doing the laundry.
Speaker 2: I want to know. I'm okay, I will I would
Speaker 2: love to have that feedback, I really would. I think
Speaker 2: it's a double edged star. I think on one end, people,
Speaker 2: you know, when we get into philosophical shit and we
Speaker 2: talk to callers about it, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people have this experience of like, oh, this is amazing
Speaker 2: because this is like, you know, uh, the conversation alludes
Speaker 2: to a thing that people probably think about but don't
Speaker 2: have any kind of like external representation of. And maybe
Speaker 2: that's cool. But then also I'm like, God, this is
Speaker 2: I just I just don't want to be a bummer
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, this is going, this is
Speaker 2: going into my b this is this curtails into my life.
Speaker 2: H I think I've started to like, I don't like
Speaker 2: every every day I'm in I'm in some new, big,
Speaker 2: crazy conversation. I don't like that anymore. I want to
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how do like, how do
Speaker 2: I how do I get back to some sort of
Speaker 2: normalcy or does that even exist? Does it? Does safety
Speaker 2: or normalcy even exist? You know, do you feel you
Speaker 2: feel like a normal person?
Speaker 1: Who me?
Speaker 4: No? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, yeah, I know you just said all that
Speaker 2: stuff earlier.
Speaker 1: Now now I am. I'm super proud of being a weirdo.
Speaker 1: But being a weirdo is my normal. Everybody's normal is different.
Speaker 1: Every person I've met, their normal is different than mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I feel really confident in in that. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm I feel really uh, you know what it is.
Speaker 2: I I I'm very complimentary and I hang out with
Speaker 2: people and I don't mean that, and like, I don't
Speaker 2: mean compliments. I mean like like, if I'm with somebody
Speaker 2: and they're freaking out, I'm so calm and I'm like,
Speaker 2: everything's fine, you know. But if I'm with someone and
Speaker 2: they're calm, I'm the one freaking out. That's how Usually
Speaker 2: when my friends' lives are going well, mine is not.
Speaker 2: And my life is going well and I'm happy, and
Speaker 2: I check in with my friends, they're all they're usually
Speaker 2: doing terrible. I don't know why that is. Hmmm.
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a human like instinct to balance
Speaker 1: out the energies that you have with other people and
Speaker 1: relationships that you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have certain there's certain well I've probably
Speaker 2: talked about this before, but like I have certain little
Speaker 2: pockets of things where I'm like, I'm not nihila is
Speaker 2: will not touch this, No, sir, it's not okay. Like,
Speaker 2: for example, I, Oh, I got it. This is a
Speaker 2: really important thing I need to talk about on the
Speaker 2: podcast the I Well, maybe I talked about it. Maybe
Speaker 2: I talked about one of the I R L episodes,
Speaker 2: but uh, what day is today? Friday? As I'm recording
Speaker 2: this six days six days ago, I woke up and
Speaker 2: I was I was not doing well, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to feel something, and so I I I
Speaker 2: went to game Stop and I bought a switch.
Speaker 1: To Oh, yeah you did talk about that. Yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: and so how did how did that work for you?
Speaker 2: And I've been playing Donkey Kong Bonanza nice and this
Speaker 2: is so I don't I don't want to keep being depressing.
Speaker 2: I want to but I was like playing it and
Speaker 2: I was like, what's the point of doing all this?
Speaker 2: Like this is just stupid. And then but then once
Speaker 2: I started to get into it, I got into it
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, there's a fucking banana. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get the banana. There's the queens. If I get
Speaker 2: enough of these fossils, I can make my I can
Speaker 2: change the color of my fur. I'm like and once
Speaker 2: I got into it, I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: so back in life. This is great. Yeah, now I'm
Speaker 2: big into Donkey Kongbinez. No amount, no amount of nihilism
Speaker 2: will stop me from being excited. Background I thought I
Speaker 2: was six, right, Yeah, video games for me, And that's.
Speaker 1: Good because I also believe that time enjoyed can never
Speaker 1: be considered time wasted.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that. I anyway, m caller, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were talking about you were Yeah, we were talking
Speaker 2: about Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about how I'm moving into Harrisburg soon, like
Speaker 1: honestly next week. I just got the call, the approval call. Yes,
Speaker 1: this today at noon.
Speaker 2: So what is HVAC?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Like what is it's it's HVAC. So it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know the specific of like what that acronym stands for,
Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest, but it's it's everything to
Speaker 1: do with like air heating and cooling inside of buildings.
Speaker 2: And a robot can't do that.
Speaker 1: At least not currently. No, And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw, but there was a recent call for like
Speaker 1: a big swell of hiring HVAC because you need air
Speaker 1: conditioned rooms to host the servers that AI is using,
Speaker 1: and they need a lot more server rooms. So there
Speaker 1: was a recent federal thing to like make a point
Speaker 1: of hiring a lot more HVAC people.
Speaker 5: UMP and in on that.
Speaker 2: Things where you need to use your hands are good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm a chef, That's always been my
Speaker 1: go to, but it just doesn't make as much money
Speaker 1: as I would like it too.
Speaker 2: You're a chef. Yeah, did you mention that at all
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this.
Speaker 1: Call, Yeah, I did. Like my full time job is
Speaker 1: part time HIF, part time maintenance. On the campus that
Speaker 1: I work at.
Speaker 2: What do you cook? What do you make?
Speaker 1: Everything? So it's a retirement center and we do all
Speaker 1: of our shopping at like the local grocery store. So
Speaker 1: it's like literally at home cooking. And since I'm in Pa,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like like just Pennsylvania home style cooking.
Speaker 4: Like ham and.
Speaker 1: String beans is something I make a lot. Parogi's shepherd's pie,
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, we make it. It's usually
Speaker 1: like a soup and a sandwich for launch and then
Speaker 1: some kind of baked prepared thing for dinner.
Speaker 2: And the people in the retirement community. How old are
Speaker 2: they like seventies?
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I work for a religious ortation. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to try to keep that nonspecific. But so
Speaker 1: the retirees can be anywhere from like forty up. And
Speaker 1: then we have like people who are in between assignments
Speaker 1: and they'll be and they can be anywhere from like
Speaker 1: twenty eight to seventy two. Like they'll just like stop
Speaker 1: in for a month and then go to the next place.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought it was like when you said
Speaker 2: like retiree home, I thought it was like a nursing home.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's independent living, but it is a retirement home.
Speaker 2: Okay. How are the retirees doing, Like what's their vibe
Speaker 2: day to day?
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it can be so so it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot of old white men. So you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes there's really good days and sometimes they have a
Speaker 1: bad day and I'm the only person available to take
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: On what like Okay, all right, So when I was
Speaker 2: just talking about the guy yelling at the grocery store
Speaker 2: and when on the whole rantom, yeah that guys. You
Speaker 2: you are around those people a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I experienced at least once a week.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the skinny on that you what's your
Speaker 2: first hand analysis of that person.
Speaker 1: At first, it was like really hard to not take
Speaker 1: it personally, But once I got more used to that
Speaker 1: just being a constant of working there, it was more
Speaker 1: of a I was able to realize that it's not
Speaker 1: about me. It's coming from their having a bad day.
Speaker 1: Something went wrong in their life, they lost control over something,
Speaker 1: and again, I'm the most available outlet for those complex,
Speaker 1: difficult emotions that they don't have the healthy outlet for.
Speaker 1: So I got to a place where it's like, I
Speaker 1: can't really judge you for just coming in and having
Speaker 1: a bad day, because we all have bad days. But
Speaker 1: I can still say that the way you handled it
Speaker 1: was incorrect. But at the end of the day, if
Speaker 1: me saying that twenty times over the course of three
Speaker 1: months doesn't change anything, then I just need to protect
Speaker 1: my own peace and let that move on like water
Speaker 1: off the back.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I fully believe that whole thing of
Speaker 2: of you know, it's never just about the thing that
Speaker 2: the person is angry about. There's something under underlying. Always yeah,
Speaker 2: well but that's okay, that's actually what I was gonna ask,
Speaker 2: do you think it is always? Do you think every sometimes?
Speaker 2: Because is that because sometimes? Is a person not ever? Like, No,
Speaker 2: I genuinely am just pissed off that the ice cream
Speaker 2: machine is broken.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think I think that that happens.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak like in blanket terms like yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, somebody's just gonna be the kind of person
Speaker 1: who gets really pissed off at the ice cream machine
Speaker 1: and that's just the only thing they're pissed about. But
Speaker 1: I think that that's a lot more rare than the
Speaker 1: like infusion of emotions towards an easier outlet. Like for me,
Speaker 1: it's video games. I love getting on and just playing
Speaker 1: like shooter games to like let out some frustration.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love killing uh fake people.
Speaker 1: I go for aliens with hell divers. But yeah, same vibe,
Speaker 1: same vibe.
Speaker 2: Mister callers, sir, this is nice. This is a nice conversation.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed to man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad I was able to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I'm you seem like you're doing good.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited for the future for you. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be going to heavy metal bands, You're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: find you're gonna do boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever you're.
Speaker 1: Doing or whatever. I'm I'm I'm demi sexual. It could
Speaker 1: be anything. I'm not picky.
Speaker 2: Demi What is demi sexual?
Speaker 1: It means I like the vibe. So as long as
Speaker 1: you and I vibe well, it doesn't matter what you
Speaker 1: have under your clothes. I'm just excited to be around
Speaker 1: somebody that I vibe well with. Okay, but but I
Speaker 1: need that good vibe, like view them in a like
Speaker 1: sexual context like I have with you. I'm not interested.
Speaker 2: I have heard the term demisexual before, meaning like somebody
Speaker 2: who can Basically, demisexual means I can only have sex
Speaker 2: with you if I like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in really simple terms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy stuff. Hell yeah man, Well caller, good.
Speaker 1: Luck, Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: Is it cool if I shout out my favorite local band?
Speaker 4: Oh? Sure of course, awesome.
Speaker 1: So yeah, guys. Galactic Empire is a cover band out
Speaker 1: here in PA. They do metal covers of Star Wars songs,
Speaker 1: and they're just now releasing an album called cine Metal
Speaker 1: later this month, where it's gonna be all covers from
Speaker 1: different movies.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, They're super cool.
Speaker 1: They dressed up in costume. I'm in contact with their costumer. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's all good. Galactic Empire yep, and that's on all
Speaker 1: social media's.
Speaker 2: I feel is that too broad?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: If I starch Galactic Empire on Instagram, type the word
Speaker 2: band after oh, okay, type the word band after yep. Beautiful,
Speaker 2: Take care man.
Speaker 1: Cool, thanks man you too?
Speaker 5: Bye cow from. This is Sasha?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is this a gek? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 6: This is Sasha. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: I Ken? What's up Sasha?
Speaker 6: I'm just hanging out right now. I've had some things
Speaker 6: on my mind lately. I was wondering if I could
Speaker 6: bounce them off.
Speaker 4: You sure?
Speaker 2: Why not? What's up? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: I've been having some issues with my best friend of
Speaker 6: like nine years. So we're boths like twenty, we're both
Speaker 6: twenty four, and lately she's just been she's just been
Speaker 6: kind of mean, and I like have been brushing it off,
Speaker 6: but it's gotten to a point where I'm like, I
Speaker 6: don't know how much more of it.
Speaker 1: I should just you know, put up.
Speaker 2: With in what way has she been mean to you?
Speaker 1: It's just like.
Speaker 6: Little comments here and there. It started off with like
Speaker 6: in the past few months, but it started escalating, and.
Speaker 5: So like.
Speaker 6: The thing that like was kind of the like the
Speaker 6: catalyst for calling you, I guess is so we were
Speaker 6: she and I had like made plans. She asked me
Speaker 6: to come stay my apartment for the week because her
Speaker 6: family was out of town and she like wanted some company.
Speaker 6: So I was really excited to like have her. I
Speaker 6: thought it'd be like a good chance for us to
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, reconnect and everything, since we had
Speaker 6: been like having little fights here and there. And the
Speaker 6: day that she was supposed to come over, she texts
Speaker 6: me and cancels, saying that, like, you know, she she's
Speaker 6: just like really anxious or whatever, and she has to
Speaker 6: stay in her town because she lives in the suburbs.
Speaker 6: I live in a big city, and she's been like
Speaker 6: talking to this guy. She even told me, like the
Speaker 6: guy asked her to hang out and she still like
Speaker 6: said she couldn't. And then I check, like later in
Speaker 6: the day, I checked her snapchat story. I saw that
Speaker 6: like she posted a screenshot of their text and like
Speaker 6: they had made plans right around the time that she
Speaker 6: like canceled with me, and she had sud the whole
Speaker 6: day getting ready and everything.
Speaker 2: The second you're checking a Snapchat story to look at
Speaker 2: a thing, we're we're already in. We're already in too deep.
Speaker 6: I know it feels silly. I I'm like, I feel
Speaker 6: like this is just like something I should.
Speaker 5: Have been doing.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, here's the problem, and it's and it's
Speaker 2: it's it's fucking sucks and it's hard, and I I
Speaker 2: don't know if I have a good answer for it,
Speaker 2: but like, friendship should be easy, yeaheah, save the hard
Speaker 2: ship for for your committed romantic relationships. Friendships should be easy,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you're having to like play
Speaker 2: detective on Snapchat, we're already in too deep. And it sucks, man,
Speaker 2: because at a certain point, I think there's a bit
Speaker 2: of relinquishment to be done.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm only speaking from my own from my own life,
Speaker 2: where you know, if you have friends that are that
Speaker 2: are dodging you or that are they don't they don't
Speaker 2: respond to you, or they are not nice to you.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: It sucks. We live in a I think a world
Speaker 2: that's like there's a bit of a scarcity of connection,
Speaker 2: and so it's hard if you do of someone that
Speaker 2: you've especially if someone you've been connected with for a
Speaker 2: long time, it's to like draw that boundary and go listen,
Speaker 2: we're fucking you know, uh uh there's we're hurtling towards
Speaker 2: uh nothingness at an alarming rate. I gotta choose carefully
Speaker 2: who I not only spend my time with, but just
Speaker 2: like invest my energy in. I mean, you're investing in
Speaker 2: the fact you called me, the fact that is on
Speaker 2: your mind. Right, This is investing.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know I've been stewing over it for
Speaker 6: a stewing over it.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, I've been there. I know what that
Speaker 2: you're just stewing over it. You're investing energy into this
Speaker 2: fucking ship Like this shouldn't. This isn't what friendship should be.
Speaker 2: It should be friendship would be easy, and there's something
Speaker 2: to be said. I think about uh in one sense,
Speaker 2: communicating your issues and seeing how that's received. But after
Speaker 2: you do that, there's it's it's hard. I think you
Speaker 2: there's you kind of have to withdraw at with a while.
Speaker 2: That's the hard thing about these relationships is that there's
Speaker 2: so much of it is not in your control. But
Speaker 2: once but yeah, you've been stewing, right, and the stewing,
Speaker 2: and there's so much better things you could be doing
Speaker 2: with your time and your and your most importantly your
Speaker 2: fucking energy because you can just waste so much energy
Speaker 2: stewing and getting right now.
Speaker 6: I totally I totally agree, and so why I'm like,
Speaker 6: at this point, I just need to come to a decision,
Speaker 6: like with myself about whether I'm gonna like just completely
Speaker 6: let her go or like like try to forgive her.
Speaker 6: But I'm kind of leaning towards, you know, just cutting
Speaker 6: things off, because I did end up confronting her about
Speaker 6: it that day.
Speaker 2: You know, well, well, when you say forgiver, it's like
Speaker 2: you can only forget someone if they uh uh you know,
Speaker 2: ask for forgiveness, if they if they put in some
Speaker 2: kind of effort to I mean, what did what did
Speaker 2: she what? What what was her vibe?
Speaker 6: Well? She she said that she was really well. First,
Speaker 6: when I said, hey, what what are you guys like
Speaker 6: doing together? She's with the guy like literally in my
Speaker 6: in my city too, which was just the other thing
Speaker 6: that kind of upset me. But she she said like, oh,
Speaker 6: like we made plans really last minute, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: you're lying to me, Like I can see.
Speaker 3: It right there.
Speaker 6: And then after that she apologized. She's like, I'm really sorry,
Speaker 6: like I know that that.
Speaker 5: Was messed up.
Speaker 6: But so she's known this guy for two weeks also,
Speaker 6: but they've been like going on some dates, and she
Speaker 6: was telling me like, you know, he's just so important
Speaker 6: to me, like I've like been really lonely. I want
Speaker 6: a boyfriend. And I was like, like, I don't know.
Speaker 6: She was like, I don't want you to think of.
Speaker 2: Is this a like this guy whatever? Who I don't
Speaker 2: care about this guy?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like is this a recur is this a recurring element
Speaker 2: of your friendship?
Speaker 1: So she has had to.
Speaker 6: Boyfriends in the past, and both times like this is
Speaker 6: years ago, you know, but I did remember like feeling blown.
Speaker 5: Off by her.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yes, yes, some people get like that when
Speaker 2: they get into relationships. They just kind of blow off
Speaker 2: everyone else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like like there would be a drop off in
Speaker 6: like communication.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's hard, man. These are hard issues to
Speaker 2: do with. There's not a lot you can do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's just what I'm trying to because like, look,
Speaker 7: if this person really, if this person I really strive,
Speaker 7: I leave strongly in the whole, like if they wanted to,
Speaker 7: they would thing like if this person really strongly wants
Speaker 7: to be your friend, it fucking be your friend.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: Yeah No. And I think she's like it's weird, Like
Speaker 6: she's kind of made it clear that like she has
Speaker 6: almost sort of this like malice that's been like coming
Speaker 6: out towards me, but also like I know she still
Speaker 6: loves me, but it's just gotten weird and toxic. Like
Speaker 6: even after she had apologized when I confronted her, she
Speaker 6: like made a point to be like I don't regret
Speaker 6: what I did. I was like, why would you say that, Like,
Speaker 6: you know, there's no reason to do that there. So
Speaker 6: there's been all these comments and like just like the
Speaker 6: like the lies and just kind of like mean stuff
Speaker 6: or like trying to put me down lately. Then I'm
Speaker 6: just like, I don't even really think she likes me
Speaker 6: at this point, dude, which makes me really sad to
Speaker 6: say that, Like I have to respect myself enough to too,
Speaker 6: I don't know, not put up with that. I guess,
Speaker 6: but it's just as hard.
Speaker 2: It is hard. It is hard. I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and when it's happened in my own life, I think
Speaker 2: there's probably something to be said about what can you
Speaker 2: pursue outside of this to put you around other people.
Speaker 2: This is one of the big I've talked about this
Speaker 2: a bunch on this show, but this is one of
Speaker 2: the big One of the great paradoxical challenges of life,
Speaker 2: I believe is that we need other people to live
Speaker 2: satisfying lives. Uh, but we also don't want to get
Speaker 2: too wrapped up in things that are outside of our control,
Speaker 2: and other people are outside of our control. It's one
Speaker 2: of the big Yeah, it's it's a difficult tension. It's
Speaker 2: one of the big difficult tensions of life. But I
Speaker 2: think that as far as the things that are in
Speaker 2: your control, there's there's a lot of ways in which
Speaker 2: I think you can kind of move through the world
Speaker 2: to put yourself around a lot of other people and
Speaker 2: to make yourself available for connections with other people. And
Speaker 2: that's kind of the elements that are in your control.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, the element of not subjecting yourself
Speaker 2: to our relationships with people who make you stew because
Speaker 2: you never want Life's too short to spend it stewing
Speaker 2: and getting pissed off and and you know all this stuff,
Speaker 2: But it's the kind of the emotional acceptance of it
Speaker 2: that's the difficult part.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think, oh, sorry, my timer went off.
Speaker 6: I think that's the thing that I've started to come
Speaker 6: around to and what initially made me so I would say,
Speaker 6: like angry in this instance, Whereas like if if I
Speaker 6: feel like I've been flighted in the past, I will
Speaker 6: do anything to like capitulate to the other person and
Speaker 6: try to just like end the conflict even if I've
Speaker 6: done nothing wrong, like I'll end up apologizing kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: I'm coming around to just like I'm almost kind of
Speaker 6: building my own sense of self for the first time.
Speaker 6: And it's a little weird. It's a good thing, but
Speaker 6: like it's making me reevaluate like all of my relationships.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean it's definitely possible.
Speaker 1: Like I know that I.
Speaker 6: Can like you know, build other like close connections. I
Speaker 6: do have other like great friends too, but it's just
Speaker 6: it just sucks when it's like your best friend. I
Speaker 6: feel a sense of loyalty to her almost that I
Speaker 6: would to like a family member, you know, but I
Speaker 6: don't know if she feels that family, so I don't
Speaker 6: think she does.
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: What is it's?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Sasha?
Speaker 2: Sasha? Uh, well, Sasha, I'm sorry you're stressing about this,
Speaker 2: but listen. Go you're twenty four. Where do you do
Speaker 2: You live in a city?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I live in Chicago.
Speaker 2: You live in Chicago. Listen, Sasha, do me a favor,
Speaker 2: Listen to me closely. Fucking go out, go leave your house,
Speaker 2: go do some stuff, go exert.
Speaker 1: Guy would.
Speaker 6: But the air quality is so bad right now, and.
Speaker 2: She who gives it, who cares the air Callie is
Speaker 2: only gonna get worse. The planet is is hurling towards
Speaker 2: non existence. It's gonna get hotter and more difficult to
Speaker 2: breathe every year. So you just get used to it.
Speaker 2: Well now while you can. This is the best the
Speaker 2: air quality is going to be forever.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, a little smoke.
Speaker 2: So so you go out and just try to make
Speaker 2: try to make some friends, Try to hurl yourself in
Speaker 2: situations where you're around other people, where you're attracting other people,
Speaker 2: and you know, make your make yourself big and such
Speaker 2: a whether you're attracting other people because you don't you
Speaker 2: just fucking you don't want to be uh running around
Speaker 2: for scraps, you know, I mean you. I think I
Speaker 2: think you're better than that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2: Don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think I deserve to putting myself in a situation.
Speaker 2: So Chicago, Yes, you're twenty twenty four in Chicago, Go
Speaker 2: kill someone. I don't know, do something. You should? Just
Speaker 2: you should. I don't know. What do you do? You
Speaker 2: like stuff?
Speaker 6: I do like stuff?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I do have some plans to go out with some
Speaker 6: friends tonight. You've got a big jestible here, so they
Speaker 6: have like a bunch of like after shows. So I
Speaker 6: have plans tonight, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep having, keep having keep having to get you
Speaker 2: away from the stewing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will do my best.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Thank you for taking a call. I've been watching you
Speaker 6: for years. Yeah, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sasha, have a go one.
Speaker 1: All right, you too? Bye?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Herbert?
Speaker 2: Herbert? What's up? Herbert? How's life?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that I'm having a garage
Speaker 3: sale and I'm moving to Toronto.
Speaker 2: You're having a go all right, what's what's for sale
Speaker 2: at this garage sale? Give us the details?
Speaker 3: Well, since I'm moving to Toronto, No, I'm getting rid
Speaker 3: of some stuff because when I come back to get
Speaker 3: my stuff, I'm I don't want to take some stuff
Speaker 3: that I don't want.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's that? What are we selling? What do
Speaker 2: we got?
Speaker 3: I was selling one of my bicycles that got sold
Speaker 3: for eighty dollars. I got a picture of a wolf.
Speaker 3: I got some bigs and some chairs and random stuff.
Speaker 2: How much did you sell? I'm sorry, are you having
Speaker 2: a garage sale? You had one?
Speaker 3: I'm having one?
Speaker 2: Okay, as like as we speak, because you said it's
Speaker 2: your bike sold for eighty bucks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah since Monday?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, so how much is the picture of
Speaker 2: the wolf?
Speaker 3: We're pretty much just going for offers, Like, I don't
Speaker 3: have any prices on anything, so whatever they give me
Speaker 3: an offer for pretty much, say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, describe the wolf to me.
Speaker 3: So it's a regular looking wolf that has the gray
Speaker 3: fur and the white kind of fur with it, and
Speaker 3: then he's just like the face the portrait of the Wolf,
Speaker 3: and it looks like it's like staring out and stuff
Speaker 3: alter realism.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably not gonna buy it, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to know miss what are you going? That's too much?
Speaker 2: Even in Canadian dollars, that's too much. Are you?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: What's the word? Are you going to miss anything? Are
Speaker 2: you going to miss any of these things you're selling?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, definitely not.
Speaker 2: Okay, not even a little bit. You're not going to
Speaker 2: miss the Picture of the Wolf if it sells?
Speaker 3: Uh not really. I still have stuff on my my own,
Speaker 3: my belongings that I'm keeping, but I'm packing it all
Speaker 3: away so my parents don't have to deal with it
Speaker 3: when I go to Toronto.
Speaker 2: What are you doing in Toronto?
Speaker 3: I have to go back to school.
Speaker 2: You said you have to go back to school. Why
Speaker 2: do you have to go back to the school.
Speaker 3: To get a license for something that I'm doing already?
Speaker 3: I kind of don't want to get into detail because
Speaker 3: of everything.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you have to get a license for something
Speaker 2: that you're already doing. Correct. That's fucking lame.
Speaker 5: Can you blame.
Speaker 2: Are you selling any video games?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Definitely? What are you selling Call of Duty Advanced Warfare.
Speaker 3: There's one of those ones, call of.
Speaker 2: Duty Advanced Warfare. What fucking number is that?
Speaker 3: That's my favorite one. I think that's like the fourth
Speaker 3: or fifth or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's no way it's the fourth. The fourth is called
Speaker 2: Duty four, the fifth is World at War. I fell
Speaker 2: off after Modern Warfare three after that. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite one because of the exoskeletons. I don't
Speaker 3: know if any of the other ones have it. Exoskeletons
Speaker 3: can jump and run really quick.
Speaker 2: Did anyone try to habble you at the garage sale?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: If Like, so, there's a couple of customers that won't
Speaker 3: give me an offer, and they pretty much asked me
Speaker 3: to say what the price is, and then if they
Speaker 3: don't like the price, they'll go lower.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, okay, how do you how do
Speaker 2: you evaluate? Like, how'd you come up with ten bucks
Speaker 2: for this wolf picture? By the way. The fact, by
Speaker 2: the way, just so you know, remember when I asked
Speaker 2: you if you're going to miss any of these things
Speaker 2: and you said no, that's the wrong answer because you
Speaker 2: immediately devalued the wolf picture because now because I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in the wolf picture that you're not going to
Speaker 2: miss you know what I mean, I want you to be.
Speaker 2: Here's what you have to do. You have to be
Speaker 2: like listen, I'm it kills me to part with this
Speaker 2: wolf picture, but I have to do it for my
Speaker 2: own survival. Then I'm like, oh shit, okay, this actually
Speaker 2: sounds like it has value. But if it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about this, then I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, this must not be a very good wolf picture.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You gotta really you gotta
Speaker 2: kind of ham it up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, the way I see it is that it's not
Speaker 3: about the money. It's about just like being fair in
Speaker 3: the garage sale, because the garage sale is like I
Speaker 3: want to get rid of some stuff, and like I
Speaker 3: mean people come here to like get stuff for their
Speaker 3: own place, and I mean I don't want to jyp
Speaker 3: them or anything.
Speaker 2: Do you live in like a walk like a cul
Speaker 2: de sac of some kind, like like this is a
Speaker 2: literal garage sale, Like you're selling out of.
Speaker 3: A garage in our front yard.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a lot of passer buyers? A
Speaker 2: lot of foot traffic.
Speaker 3: No, Unfortunately, I live out of town about ten minutes,
Speaker 3: so it's kind of slow.
Speaker 2: How do people find out about this? Do you put
Speaker 2: up a sign?
Speaker 3: Do you have signs in marketplace?
Speaker 2: Do you put them out? Do you put it on
Speaker 2: a Facebook marketplace or any of that shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay. Are most of the people driving to the garage
Speaker 2: sale or do they stumble upon it?
Speaker 3: I think they have to drive too. I don't think
Speaker 3: you can really stumble upon it. I'm kind of I
Speaker 3: don't want to really say, but like out of town,
Speaker 3: so I mean like there is other houses here, but
Speaker 3: I mean, no one's really walking to the garage sale.
Speaker 2: What is one thing that is not for sale at
Speaker 2: your garage sale? But if given a certain price, you
Speaker 2: would sell it?
Speaker 3: The chair I'm sitting on. This chair is not going
Speaker 3: anywhere unless someone asks a hundred bucks for it.
Speaker 2: I'll give you one hundred bucks for it. It sounds like
Speaker 2: a great chair. See, that's what it is. The thing, right,
Speaker 2: that's what you should do. That's what it's how you
Speaker 2: got to ham it up in the garage sale. You
Speaker 2: got it's the things that aren't for sale. Like you
Speaker 2: ever seen toy story too, that's a classic garage sale movie.
Speaker 2: The value of Woody goes up because he's not for sale,
Speaker 2: just supplying demand economics.
Speaker 3: Well, I just would like to be more fair. I
Speaker 3: don't want them to be like that was a rip
Speaker 3: off at that garage sale, never coming back.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, is it not a nice chair? Oh?
Speaker 1: It is so comfy.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it's worth a hundred dollars. Sounds like it's
Speaker 2: worth more.
Speaker 3: Are you guys doing any Are you doing any like
Speaker 3: talks in Toronto? I heard that you had one in Edmonton.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do something in Edmonton, but I don't know
Speaker 2: when I will go to Toronto. I mean, I love Toronto.
Speaker 2: Toronto's awesome. Maybe in twenty twenty six, we shall see
Speaker 2: if people still want to see me. I don't know yet.
Speaker 2: I think I haven't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I haven't go ahead.
Speaker 3: I've been to a live one like I'm close to Edmonton,
Speaker 3: but like not that close.
Speaker 2: If people still want to see me, I'll go. If
Speaker 2: people still want to, If people are still down, I'll go.
Speaker 2: I might go again in twenty twenty six, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I had I had to stop this year, but six
Speaker 2: I might go. Definitely going to Edmonton. I don't again,
Speaker 2: I don't know when, but Edmonton will. I mean no,
Speaker 2: I do know when, but I don't know where. But
Speaker 2: that information will be revealed at some point. What's your
Speaker 2: name again, Herbert? Herbert? Is there anything else you want
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I'm so happy I got on best stay ever.
Speaker 2: I'm happy we got to talk to and I wish
Speaker 2: you good luck with your garage sale. And I hope
Speaker 2: you take my advice and you ham it up and
Speaker 2: you get what that fucking chair is worth.
Speaker 3: Not for sale by Herbert, but.
Speaker 2: Two hundred dollars for the chair. Hello, Oh hey, gay, Hey,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 5: Not much, man, it's been a while.
Speaker 2: Have we talked before?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: Not really, But I don't know if you can recall
Speaker 5: that one time you were asleep and I called you
Speaker 5: and I played you a tune on my yuke Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, wow, holy fucking shit, amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like years ago. Man, All right, So back in
Speaker 5: a long time, back in two.
Speaker 2: Back, and I'll explain. Back in twenty twenty one, I
Speaker 2: was I was living and kind of starting up this
Speaker 2: stream in my mom's basement, and I remember I was
Speaker 2: there for a year and a half and I would
Speaker 2: do these things called experimental Tuesdays. And one time I
Speaker 2: did this where like I went live on Twitch, but
Speaker 2: I was asleep and I put a phone number up
Speaker 2: and I was like, call me, and I was I
Speaker 2: put a phone number up and I was like, please
Speaker 2: do not call this number. I am asleep and it
Speaker 2: was and then somebody would call the phone and I
Speaker 2: would pick it up and I would go what it was.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. And then yeah, you
Speaker 2: called and you played, You played the ukulele. I actually
Speaker 2: totally remember.
Speaker 5: This, Yeah, dude, Like I remember, I haven't watched you
Speaker 5: in a really fucking long time, but I remember, like
Speaker 5: back in the day when you would open the line
Speaker 5: and then you'd have to like fill the air for
Speaker 5: like ten minutes waiting for a call to go through. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: like the really early days. Man, like good fun man.
Speaker 5: Me and my old roommate used to hang around and
Speaker 5: drink beer and yeah kind of watch you get it
Speaker 5: off the ground?
Speaker 2: Cool? Well, how are you doing now, Pat? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think that ukulele should ever made it into
Speaker 2: the podcast. So this is our This is our first
Speaker 2: official time speaking together on a recorded line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean like these sure going okay.
Speaker 5: I mean I've got a few complaints about life, but
Speaker 5: i mean who doesn't you know mm.
Speaker 2: Hm, and you're a Canadian.
Speaker 5: Yeah I am. Oh you probably like you've read that
Speaker 5: off like the Google thing or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that off the Google thing or whatever.
Speaker 2: We're in Canada. Where in Canada are you?
Speaker 5: I live in Northern Alberta. Oh okay, what like we
Speaker 5: got on the Yeah, we get like the the harsh
Speaker 5: weather up here, like the really really hot weather, we
Speaker 5: get the really cold weather. We get it all.
Speaker 2: I haven't like announced this anywhere yet, but I'm doing
Speaker 2: a show in November Edmonton.
Speaker 5: Dude, you're coming to my town?
Speaker 2: Wait? You live in Edmonton?
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, do you want to have a beer?
Speaker 2: Oh? Shit? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah, I don't know how. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming to Edmonton
Speaker 2: in uh November. I'm doing a college show there.
Speaker 5: And what college?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I don't remember off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: But once you enter Grant Mac or what, once there
Speaker 2: are tickets available, I will know that information off the
Speaker 2: top of my head.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Okay, yeah, then I'll buy a ticket, and
Speaker 5: I'll buy one from my old roommate, uh who used
Speaker 5: to watch with me back in the day.
Speaker 2: Cool, very good fuck yeah yeah which uh yeah, So
Speaker 2: uh well, I mean, what's going on in Edmonton? I
Speaker 2: looked it up on Google Maps, and it seems like
Speaker 2: it's kind of in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 5: Uh well, I mean kind of. I would consider it,
Speaker 5: like it's kind of one of the cultural hubs of
Speaker 5: the entire country. If you want to find all kinds
Speaker 5: of different shit, Like we've got a pretty big arts
Speaker 5: and culture scene, you go down to White Alve Like
Speaker 5: even I think right now they're putting on like a
Speaker 5: collective visual art, science music, like learning about neurochemistry while
Speaker 5: people are making live art exhibition going on here. I
Speaker 5: don't really know that much about it though, but like
Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll be able to find something that if
Speaker 5: you have the time to put into it, that you'll
Speaker 5: be able to take something out of it too.
Speaker 2: So Pat, you said your name was, Do you still
Speaker 2: play the ukulele.
Speaker 1: A little bit?
Speaker 5: Not really, like more of a kind of kicking around
Speaker 5: on the couch when my buddies are playing the guitar.
Speaker 5: I'll pull it out and play a few tunes, but
Speaker 5: not that much anymore. I've kind of like let my
Speaker 5: music fall to the.
Speaker 2: Wayside any particular reason why.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've got other hobbies, and you know, I'm
Speaker 5: in my thirties now, and your time, like, while you're
Speaker 5: getting older, you kind of just get crunched for it
Speaker 5: and you've got to figure out where are your priorities,
Speaker 5: what things do you actually want to do with your time?
Speaker 5: And then like the importance of having downtime too is
Speaker 5: becoming more and more apparent to me.
Speaker 2: What is the thing? What are the things that are
Speaker 2: crunching you for time?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I've like gotten into a more serious
Speaker 5: relationship and you've got to make time for that. Alternatively, Like,
Speaker 5: I've been working more and my work is like really
Speaker 5: stressful a lot of times. What is your work? So
Speaker 5: I work in the mental health field. I do home
Speaker 5: care for folks with disabilities, so that can range. Oh dude, well,
Speaker 5: I mean like it's a real give and take though, right,
Speaker 5: Like I work night shift, so you could have a
Speaker 5: really really laid back night where you don't really do
Speaker 5: much at all, like maybe making some people breakfast or
Speaker 5: hanging out and shooting the shit, or even just like
Speaker 5: watching Twitch half the night. But then like, in contrast
Speaker 5: to that, you have nights where you're doing like nine
Speaker 5: hours of crisis intervention and it's not always easy, but
Speaker 5: you know, as long as you don't bring it home
Speaker 5: with you, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, what is the nine hours of crisis intervention look? Like?
Speaker 5: I mean, for like legal and privacy reasons, like I
Speaker 5: couldn't go into any actual specificies for my real job, but.
Speaker 2: Well like if you could, you like, could you like
Speaker 2: make up a scenario of like what something?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like imagine like pick a pick.
Speaker 4: Any name at all, uh, Kyle?
Speaker 5: Okay? Imagine if Kyle was an Afghanistan war vet who
Speaker 5: suffered a traumatic brain injury and he's got PTSD and
Speaker 5: now he's also got physical and mental disabilities from his injuries.
Speaker 5: I could show up to Kyle's house and we're gonna,
Speaker 5: you know, Kyle's to go to bed, it's eleven o'clock
Speaker 5: at night, but instead, you know, maybe there's something going on,
Speaker 5: some kind of trigger that sets him off. And then
Speaker 5: my goal would largely be to de escalate the situation
Speaker 5: before it progresses to a point where you're in a
Speaker 5: real crisis. So falling back on like procedures that you've
Speaker 5: got in place and policies and known strategies that have
Speaker 5: been developed by a team that has degrees and stuff,
Speaker 5: and then my goal would be to implement them on
Speaker 5: the ground to try to, you know, make sure that
Speaker 5: you don't end up with injuries to people in the community,
Speaker 5: or injuries to the client that you're serving or to
Speaker 5: the staff, or police involvement. The goal is more or
Speaker 5: less to exist be ahead of that by knowing the
Speaker 5: client and knowing the procedure.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought, yeah, that was very That was very general.
Speaker 2: That was a very general assessment. I thought you were
Speaker 2: going to be like, yes, someone was doing something and
Speaker 2: I would and I did something and then I did something. Wait,
Speaker 2: that was more vague.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you your job is taken up a lot
Speaker 2: of time, relationships taken up a lot of time. Give kids.
Speaker 5: No, I mean I have I have a big ass
Speaker 5: dog who's also kind of a lot of work. But
Speaker 5: I'm a good company. What kind of dog, Okay, German shepherd, Muddy.
Speaker 2: That's a very big dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, a real yeah, big pooch. But and then
Speaker 5: I mean, like I've got other hobbies too. I practiced archery,
Speaker 5: and I like hiking and fishing and hunting.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, wait, you're like a real guy. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the kind of a weird way to
Speaker 5: put it, but yeah, depending on how you classify a real.
Speaker 2: Guy, you're a real guy is someone you know, who does?
Speaker 2: I think a real guy is like you do stuff,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like my my hobbies aren't like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, fucking watching paint dry or anything. Right, But yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, no.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You're real.
Speaker 2: You're a real guy. You gotta no, you're you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. No, you're you're a real guy, all right.
Speaker 2: You have you got a job, or you help people,
Speaker 2: You're you got a girlfriend, wife, you got a dog,
Speaker 2: you do, you do hunting, you do archery, or a
Speaker 2: real guy. You're a real human being.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do all the things you do, all
Speaker 5: the things.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm telling you. I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: No, No, I totally get where you're coming from. But like
Speaker 5: it would have been like an easy angle to kind
Speaker 5: of pick in dude, to be like, you should play
Speaker 5: the ukulele, and you played me the song of Storms,
Speaker 5: and now you don't play the ukulele? What the fuck
Speaker 5: yourself with that? Like, yeah, it's I mean, things are
Speaker 5: going generally quite well. Like I'm not I'm not so
Speaker 5: bent out of shape that I'm like, oh fuck, hang
Speaker 5: up my ukulele, I quit forever. But I mean, like
Speaker 5: in contrast to that, like nothing ever goes perfect, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I've been having a pretty challenging week this week.
Speaker 5: I found out that morning that I've got shingles.
Speaker 2: Oh no, what are shingles?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like when you got chicken pass when you
Speaker 5: were a kid and then it comes back and gets
Speaker 5: you as an adult. But I thought that I had
Speaker 5: just been hit by poison ivy when I was out
Speaker 5: in the woods last weekend. But as it turns out,
Speaker 5: I've actually got like shingles, which apparently you're not even
Speaker 5: supposed to get until you're like an old man, and
Speaker 5: I'm in my early thirties. And uh yeah, Like as
Speaker 5: a consequence of that, I've been dealing with some pretty
Speaker 5: like moderate to severe nerve pain all week, and it's
Speaker 5: kind of gotten me thinking, what's the way Well, like,
Speaker 5: have you ever thought of about how you conduct yourself
Speaker 5: in regular life when you're also dealing with physical pain?
Speaker 2: I guess not really.
Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of like, to my mind, it's
Speaker 5: kind of like being very, very tired, Like everything is
Speaker 5: harder when you're really tired if you haven't slept in
Speaker 5: a day or two, Like shit that you can do
Speaker 5: very easily, very quickly turns into like what the fuck?
Speaker 5: I don't even want to do that, you know, Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: And that's been kids of the thing that I've been
Speaker 5: trying to wrap my head around because I've been offered
Speaker 5: a few days off work. I don't really know if
Speaker 5: I want to take them, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's just kind of been the thing that I've been
Speaker 5: wrapping my head around.
Speaker 2: M Why uh, why did you quit the ukulele?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I'm I'm kind of very often
Speaker 5: one of those people who will perpetually pick up a
Speaker 5: new hobby and then eventually drop it to the wayside.
Speaker 2: It's good too, I think you know, people people a
Speaker 2: dog on like being a generalist, but I think it's good.
Speaker 2: I think it's good to have a lot of different
Speaker 2: stuff that you do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the the ukulele is far from
Speaker 5: the only instrument that I quit. You know, I played
Speaker 5: banjo for a while, I played the bass for a
Speaker 5: long a long while actually, But eventually I always find
Speaker 5: myself like, where's the new thing?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what's the what's your next new hobby?
Speaker 5: Well, right now, I've really been knuckling down on learning
Speaker 5: how to bow hunt.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you really like you like hunting, Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: So I've been doing that for a couple of years,
Speaker 5: but this is the first year that I've actually taken
Speaker 5: it more seriously, Like I've put in the work.
Speaker 2: What have we what have we been hunting?
Speaker 5: Well, I haven't been hunting anything. I've just been like
Speaker 5: scouting and preparing things.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I went out and put out trail cameras that I've
Speaker 5: been moderning, monitoring and patterning the deer. And then I
Speaker 5: went out recently and hung a tree stand and uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's kind of putting into season work, which.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It adds a different kind of dynamic to it, okay,
Speaker 5: And it's a it's kind of like a discipline in
Speaker 5: and of it. Shelf, which I think is the thing
Speaker 5: that I like about hunting is that you're combining like
Speaker 5: twenty different disciplines that you have to learn if you
Speaker 5: want to make it actually work. And I think that's
Speaker 5: why it keeps me engaged.
Speaker 2: Well then fuck ukulele.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's nothing wrong with playing a little
Speaker 5: bit of ukulele too.
Speaker 2: All Right, if I when I come to Edmonton, if
Speaker 2: you come to the show, will you bring the ukulele?
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I've got like a little backpack thing that
Speaker 5: I could put it into.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, come to the show, bring the ukulele,
Speaker 2: and and we can do what we did four years ago,
Speaker 2: but we can do it in real life.
Speaker 5: And you'll take a nap and I'll like hang up
Speaker 5: by your bed and play you a tune.
Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds fucking sick.
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, uh, do you have any requests?
Speaker 2: Can you can you do a sonic the Hedgehog Green
Speaker 2: Hill Zone?
Speaker 5: Hold on, I'm gonna put that into a different cab.
Speaker 2: I bet you could do that on ukulele Green Hill.
Speaker 5: John, Okay, Yeah, Well, I mean I'll see what I
Speaker 5: can do.
Speaker 2: Probably gonna you know, all right, I have at this
Speaker 2: either either that or you can uh or you can
Speaker 2: kill me with a crossbow. What either of those two
Speaker 2: things are okay with me?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm above using a cross though.
Speaker 2: What is the what is the thing you use? Use
Speaker 2: a regular bow and arrow?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like a vertical bow.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you can kill me with that.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well then, but I'll look into that the Hedgehog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to hunt me down. I'll get naked,
Speaker 2: I'll what is.
Speaker 5: The gecko season out here? How do I draw a tag?
Speaker 2: I'll get naked, increase myself up, and I'll run through
Speaker 2: the woods and you can chase me and you can
Speaker 2: uh try to strike me down again. Either that or
Speaker 2: greenhill Zone on the ukulele would be a perfectly good
Speaker 2: activity for us to do together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well then, I mean, like if I if I have
Speaker 5: to default back to like legend of Gelda, like are
Speaker 5: you here for it?
Speaker 2: Or if you have to if you can't play Sonic
Speaker 2: the Hedshog greenhill Zone, you're hunting me in the woods?
Speaker 2: Two options, nothing in between?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well then I mean I'll really really try my best
Speaker 5: in Green hill Zone because I don't think that I'd
Speaker 5: like to do that other option. So yeah, I'll give
Speaker 5: it the old college try beautiful.
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Yeah, I'm Pat, Pat?
Speaker 5: Pat.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, people on the internet, remember to take a little
Speaker 5: bit of time to exerciage shelf care, even if it's
Speaker 5: only like thirty minutes a day.
Speaker 2: Verty cool, Pat forever? Okay, Yeah, all right, I'll see
Speaker 2: you in Canada, Pat.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. If you see me hold up my fucking ukulele,
Speaker 5: then college.
Speaker 2: I'll know. I'll know. Don't worry if I see If
Speaker 2: I'm at this place and I see someone holding up
Speaker 2: a ukulele, I will know it's you.
Speaker 5: Okay, perfect man, somebody.
Speaker 2: Unless somebody hears this and then they also go.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh yeah, they're all coming out from Calgary.
Speaker 5: They're gonna drive over and bring their you. Okay, you'll
Speaker 5: know the real Pat when you find me.
Speaker 2: I'll know the real Pat. Don't worry. I know my pet, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, take care of Pet.
Speaker 1: All right.
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