1
00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Hello.

2
00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520
Speaker 2: Hey. What's your name?

3
00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,280
Speaker 1: My name's Anthony, Anthony.

4
00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,440
Speaker 2: What's up, Anthony? How are you doing?

5
00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Not too bad? How about you? Man?

6
00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there another day, alive on the earth.

7
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,000
Speaker 1: You're right on.

8
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,599
Speaker 2: What's going on with you? Man?

9
00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Not too much. I'm recently moving to Harrisburg after a

10
00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,520
Speaker 1: three and a half year relationship breaking up. And yeah,

11
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I've been crashing with my friends. I've been using veterans assistance.

12
00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,400
Speaker 1: I actually just got the call today that I'm improved

13
00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320
Speaker 1: to move into the new apartment in the city that

14
00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to move into.

15
00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,519
Speaker 2: You're a veteran, yes, sir. I actually was about to

16
00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 2: ask you if I thought you were like seventeen.

17
00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,760
Speaker 1: No, man, I'm thirty one.

18
00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you have a youth yeah voice.

19
00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,159
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.

20
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 3: What are you?

21
00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,560
Speaker 2: What are you? A veteran of the Air Force?

22
00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,120
Speaker 1: I did the network defense for the Air Force in

23
00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,560
Speaker 1: a place I'm not going to say where.

24
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,440
Speaker 2: Cool. So what kind of benefits do you get as

25
00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,280
Speaker 2: a veteran.

26
00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Of the veteran things a little complication?

27
00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,679
Speaker 2: Taylor's Hey, man, are you are you like holding your

28
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,800
Speaker 2: hand over the phone or anything like that, or walking

29
00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,040
Speaker 2: around trying.

30
00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,839
Speaker 1: To I'm holding it right up next to my face.

31
00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,640
Speaker 2: Here, Okay, you're good. There we go. Okay, sorry saying no.

32
00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,880
Speaker 1: The Veterans thing, I was only in for two and

33
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,679
Speaker 1: a half years because I had some pretty like fucked

34
00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840
Speaker 1: up what's the word I'm looking for leadership, Like my

35
00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 1: very high ranked officers would come to like two thirty

36
00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520
Speaker 1: in the morning room inspections on me and random shit

37
00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,160
Speaker 1: like that. So they got me out before I had

38
00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,320
Speaker 1: all four years and not all benefits I'm available to.

39
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,680
Speaker 1: So because my boyfriend or my ex boyfriend only gave

40
00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,880
Speaker 1: me such a limited amount of time forty days to

41
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,800
Speaker 1: leave the apartment, I had to rely on their anti

42
00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,280
Speaker 1: homelessness assistants to go through those avenues.

43
00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200
Speaker 2: And so now are you moving to a place that

44
00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,400
Speaker 2: is sponsored by the Veterans Association?

45
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.

46
00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,720
Speaker 1: So there's an apartment complex like owning company that the

47
00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,959
Speaker 1: Veterans affairs and then another local assistance program. They work

48
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,560
Speaker 1: hand in hand with them, and they'll cover rent for

49
00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,760
Speaker 1: me for a whole year. They'll put the utilities in

50
00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,160
Speaker 1: my name, but also cover utilities so that I can

51
00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,080
Speaker 1: build credit. And the goal is to show significant improvement

52
00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,040
Speaker 1: over the course of three and sixty five days and

53
00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,200
Speaker 1: then take over the leaf.

54
00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,840
Speaker 5: At the end.

55
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,920
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, good, So what is it? What does it

56
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,480
Speaker 2: mean to show significant improvement?

57
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,480
Speaker 1: See, what that's going to look like is switching job careers.

58
00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,400
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm I'm working for a company where I

59
00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,760
Speaker 1: get to be part time chef for a retirement center

60
00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,799
Speaker 1: and then part time maintenance for the other side of

61
00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,000
Speaker 1: their campus. But with all of this in mind, I'm

62
00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,600
Speaker 1: going to be training for HVAC since there's such a

63
00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,360
Speaker 1: big need for that and that's going to be really

64
00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 1: hard to replace by AI. So I'm gonna be getting

65
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800
Speaker 1: my h VAC certification, showing that I have like enough

66
00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,000
Speaker 1: in savings, showing that I can keep up with like

67
00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600
Speaker 1: other bills and things like that, just like, yeah, showing

68
00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,960
Speaker 1: I can be a responsible adult.

69
00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,079
Speaker 2: Really okay? And how do you feel about your ability

70
00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,040
Speaker 2: to do all those.

71
00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,079
Speaker 1: Things the same time? You know, like.

72
00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,040
Speaker 2: Just a little bit every Yeah?

73
00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, uh no, I'm excited and nervous about it. You know,

74
00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I am capable of doing it. It's

75
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,920
Speaker 1: just going to be a lot of work to have

76
00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,000
Speaker 1: a full time job, settling into a new apartment, getting

77
00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 1: to know the city that I'm living in, and then

78
00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 1: also going to school to get my h VAC certification

79
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,800
Speaker 1: as well. So it's a lot to get on my

80
00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,440
Speaker 1: plate all at once, but I feel good about it

81
00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840
Speaker 1: and I feel to take on the next year.

82
00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,760
Speaker 2: Sick very good. Yeah, So what happened with your ex?

83
00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, his mom gave him an ultimatum where he

84
00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080
Speaker 1: could stay with me in the state that we were

85
00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,520
Speaker 1: living in and not receive any more assistance from her

86
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,680
Speaker 1: because he was having a hard time holding the job

87
00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,720
Speaker 1: and things, or he could go home work for his

88
00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,159
Speaker 1: mom's online business, live rent free, have his debt continue

89
00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,720
Speaker 1: to be paid, and stay with mom. And he ended

90
00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 1: up choosing to go home instead.

91
00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So and then that was the end of you guys.

92
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've been living in this state for like

93
00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,360
Speaker 1: ten years, and I have a really large support network

94
00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520
Speaker 1: and a full time job, and all of this news

95
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,719
Speaker 1: was only brought to me with forty days notice, and

96
00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't pack up my life to move to a

97
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,840
Speaker 1: different state in forty days. And I explained that to him,

98
00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,520
Speaker 1: but it was more important that he went home.

99
00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:09,320
Speaker 2: So you're moving to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Yeah, Yeah, what's going

100
00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,040
Speaker 2: on in Harrisburg Pennsylvania.

101
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,960
Speaker 1: Uh, well, South Central PA is the like mecca of

102
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,520
Speaker 1: the metal scene, which I'm like huge on right now.

103
00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,559
Speaker 1: I always have been since I was in high school.

104
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240
Speaker 1: It's mostly Lancaster, but Harrisburg has a lot of stuff

105
00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,200
Speaker 1: for it, like JB Love Drafts. Best fucking place to

106
00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,600
Speaker 1: hang out in Harrisburg for sure. It's this little like

107
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,400
Speaker 1: punk dive bar on Second Street. Yeah, best place did

108
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120
Speaker 1: they do? Like free music every Fridays, all kinds of events,

109
00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,760
Speaker 1: good like craft beers, good food. Yeah, awesome place. I

110
00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 1: was just at Pride on Saturday and had all kinds

111
00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 1: of fun with that. Yeah, it's just a cool city

112
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,440
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to like get to know it more

113
00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080
Speaker 1: outside of like visiting it once every couple of months

114
00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:52,680
Speaker 1: to go to a bar.

115
00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,599
Speaker 2: What So that's so random that there's a big heavy

116
00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,680
Speaker 2: metal scene in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Did that come to be?

117
00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,279
Speaker 1: There's just like a lot of up and coming artists

118
00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,880
Speaker 1: coming out of like South Central Pa in general, Like

119
00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,640
Speaker 1: I said, specifically Lancaster with like August Burns Red, I

120
00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,480
Speaker 1: mean the other band I'm thinking of my favorite Galactic Empire. Yeah.

121
00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280
Speaker 1: So like there's that, and then there's Mickey's Black Box out

122
00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,880
Speaker 1: in Lancaster too, which is like this rock campus that

123
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,680
Speaker 1: has two stages, hotels and like restaurants and all this

124
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 1: stuff and studios for rent. So like any band can

125
00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000
Speaker 1: just like get time there, stay there, produce however much

126
00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,400
Speaker 1: they need, get help producing it, and then go on

127
00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,440
Speaker 1: with their lives.

128
00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,760
Speaker 2: And are you do you play in a band.

129
00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,560
Speaker 1: I used to play in like a like a normal

130
00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,599
Speaker 1: cover band that we would do like birthdays and bars.

131
00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,760
Speaker 1: But I haven't been able to get into a metal

132
00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,359
Speaker 1: band yet.

133
00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,599
Speaker 2: Are is that one of your plans when you go

134
00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,240
Speaker 2: to Harrisburg, You're gonna get into a metal band?

135
00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be dope as hell. But like really,

136
00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like just be known in the

137
00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320
Speaker 1: scene in general, because I just love music scenes and

138
00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,039
Speaker 1: I and I did the like local artist in Carlisle thing,

139
00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,160
Speaker 1: and now I want to like get to know the

140
00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480
Speaker 1: metal scene better, just a little more, like personally.

141
00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,320
Speaker 2: How does one get to be known in the scene.

142
00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,679
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just gonna be like hanging

143
00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,840
Speaker 1: out of JB's get introducing myself to different bands, figuring

144
00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,320
Speaker 1: out where they're doing other shows, going to shows for

145
00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,120
Speaker 1: bands that I like, Uh, I used to work merche,

146
00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,320
Speaker 1: so I'm always talking to the merch guys about like

147
00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,800
Speaker 1: what they're doing and stuff like that.

148
00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

149
00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just about like networking and getting to

150
00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:36,960
Speaker 1: know people.

151
00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, man, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Well,

152
00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 2: I'll let me ask you this, uh caller, is there

153
00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800
Speaker 2: anything in particular that you wanted to call in to

154
00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,000
Speaker 2: talk about today or just kind of.

155
00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160
Speaker 1: Kind of just shoot the shit about like what's been

156
00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,000
Speaker 1: going on, kind of like I did with you so far.

157
00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,600
Speaker 1: If there's anything in specific that seems interesting to talk

158
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,800
Speaker 1: about them down for that too.

159
00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:09,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in the in the in the Air Force, Yeah,

160
00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,920
Speaker 2: did mean to you.

161
00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, I'm actually I'm pursuing a

162
00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 1: disability claim because of it.

163
00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 2: Wait really how does that work?

164
00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,200
Speaker 1: So basically I was I was diagnosed to a few

165
00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,280
Speaker 1: different like mental illnesses because of the events that happened

166
00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,280
Speaker 1: during my stay at my permanent duty station, which just

167
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,160
Speaker 1: means like the place where you're supposed to be for

168
00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,720
Speaker 1: your job. And yeah, just the the environment of harassment, uh,

169
00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,160
Speaker 1: the twisting of Air Force standards so that I was

170
00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,920
Speaker 1: set up to fail or specifically removing avenues of health

171
00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,560
Speaker 1: and assistance from me and me only, along with like yeah,

172
00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,160
Speaker 1: the random room inspections, the like constant supervision. There was

173
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,200
Speaker 1: one point I even got moved out of my section

174
00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,360
Speaker 1: and the only person I was allowed to report to

175
00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,160
Speaker 1: was the supervisor of the division that I was working for.

176
00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,880
Speaker 1: It had to create an environment of harassment and fear,

177
00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,280
Speaker 1: and it resulted in me getting PTSD, anxiety depression and

178
00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,000
Speaker 1: like a severe distrust of authority.

179
00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that sounds that sounds air force E. That

180
00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 2: sounds very it sure does. Yeah, yep, okay, and now

181
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,560
Speaker 2: you're going to go into HVAC.

182
00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because you know, computers are fine, but all

183
00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,600
Speaker 1: the certifications I got are at this point like eleven

184
00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,440
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and AI is moving so fast with computers.

185
00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,400
Speaker 1: It's not really worth it for the effort versus reward.

186
00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280
Speaker 1: It's not worth it for me to just like go

187
00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,040
Speaker 1: in and.

188
00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah everything.

189
00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,079
Speaker 2: There's a flip I feel like where it's like blue

190
00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,720
Speaker 2: white collar work is now going to be worth less

191
00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,800
Speaker 2: than blue collar work.

192
00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically they look at my diagnoses and then

193
00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,040
Speaker 1: they're like they have me do a doctor's appointments and

194
00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,640
Speaker 1: they're like, yes, you do have depression, anxiety, et cetera.

195
00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,240
Speaker 1: And it looks like it was from that. So here's

196
00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,439
Speaker 1: your disability.

197
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,439
Speaker 2: Check well, and how much how much can we get

198
00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,160
Speaker 2: from disability? What's what's that about?

199
00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,800
Speaker 1: So that really depends on what I get rated for

200
00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,120
Speaker 1: my percentage. That can be anywhere from like five hundred

201
00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,319
Speaker 1: twice a month for thirty percent up to two for

202
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,120
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.

203
00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,800
Speaker 2: Now is that like based because I assume this is

204
00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,240
Speaker 2: based off of expenses that you incur as a result

205
00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,360
Speaker 2: of these things, or is it just like.

206
00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,280
Speaker 1: Now, Actually it's really it's it's it's literally like an

207
00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry check and they're like, hey, this this all

208
00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600
Speaker 1: this stuff happened to you. That was real. We're sorry

209
00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,880
Speaker 1: about that. You were not owed to that. Therefore, here's

210
00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,120
Speaker 1: the money as and I'm sorry and you'll get that

211
00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 1: until you die.

212
00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, that's exciting.

213
00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's going slower. But the assistance with the VA.

214
00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,520
Speaker 1: They did get me the approval for the apartment like

215
00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,440
Speaker 1: fucking today, and that was really exciting.

216
00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,360
Speaker 2: And are you living in this apartment by yourself? You

217
00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,080
Speaker 2: got roommates.

218
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,680
Speaker 1: I will be living in the apartment by myself.

219
00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, very cool. So h VAC, I mean this

220
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,800
Speaker 2: is a is a cool life. All right. So you

221
00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,800
Speaker 2: got you got your h VAC job, which ain't getting

222
00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,040
Speaker 2: taken by AI anytime soon. Right, you're going out to

223
00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,880
Speaker 2: heavy metal shows. You got a little bit of a

224
00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:48,640
Speaker 2: government beer money. We'll call it. Yep, great, great, Uh

225
00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:55,200
Speaker 2: anecdote for depression beer not well, no, I mean not sometimes. No,

226
00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,880
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not a good idea. It's really nice, actually, dude.

227
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,720
Speaker 1: One thing I'd be really excited to talk to you

228
00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,040
Speaker 1: about is all this stuff has happened in my life

229
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,880
Speaker 1: has had me contemplating suffering and what I mean by

230
00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,400
Speaker 1: why are you.

231
00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,199
Speaker 5: Well?

232
00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,720
Speaker 1: Because your your podcast, dude, I listened to it all

233
00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,040
Speaker 1: the time, like anytime there's a new episode on YouTube.

234
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,080
Speaker 1: I got that ship running while I'm at work, and

235
00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,760
Speaker 1: you and you talk to a lot of people about

236
00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of really cool philosophical topics, and I kind

237
00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120
Speaker 1: of just wanted to like launch some of the thoughts

238
00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,880
Speaker 1: I've had about suffering at you. If that's cool, all right,

239
00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,880
Speaker 1: let's do it, Okay. So one of the first things

240
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,560
Speaker 1: I've come to is suffering is just like the self is,

241
00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,319
Speaker 1: it just exists. It's not inherently good, it's not inherently bad.

242
00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,920
Speaker 1: You don't inherently gain something good from some from suffering,

243
00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,800
Speaker 1: and you don't inherently gain something bad.

244
00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,720
Speaker 6: It just is.

245
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,440
Speaker 1: So what I've what I've come to think, is like

246
00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,320
Speaker 1: I should accept suffering as the baseline of life. That

247
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,320
Speaker 1: just is life. To live is to suffer. But in

248
00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,360
Speaker 1: the acceptance and knowing of that, I can then circumvent

249
00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,080
Speaker 1: that and find other avenues of finding my joy. Peace

250
00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,000
Speaker 1: or what I've found to be spiritually significant is just

251
00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,800
Speaker 1: sharing love, whether it's platonic or otherwise with people. That's

252
00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280
Speaker 1: really where that suffering is lessened, and I find more

253
00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,240
Speaker 1: joy and contentment in sharing love and just trying to

254
00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,480
Speaker 1: find the ways to like, not necessarily ignore suffering, because

255
00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it's important to acknowledge it, but you know,

256
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,720
Speaker 1: find ways to smile even though you're suffering.

257
00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,079
Speaker 2: Oh God, man, yeah, I know, I know you mean,

258
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,520
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

259
00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't yet want to accept that existence is suffering.

260
00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So why is that?

261
00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,160
Speaker 2: Why is that? Because that's just such you know what's man,

262
00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,360
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you this in this moment, is that

263
00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean, yeah, you know you

264
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,840
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast and you know you hear me

265
00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,280
Speaker 2: talk about philosophy and stuff. I don't know if philosophy

266
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,360
Speaker 2: has yet. I mean, I'm on a it's a continuing journey,

267
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,160
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's had a great impact

268
00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:18,800
Speaker 2: on my life.

269
00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,360
Speaker 4: Philosophy I would agree.

270
00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,600
Speaker 1: I think it's like taking your brain to the gym.

271
00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's.

272
00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,520
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not it's like no, it's like taking

273
00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,800
Speaker 2: my brain and throwing it down a flight of stairs.

274
00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,560
Speaker 2: Taking my brain. Taking my brain to the gym is

275
00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:48,760
Speaker 2: like playing chess, or or or dissecting a nucleus or

276
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,040
Speaker 2: some ship. Okay, you know that's training your brain. Philosophy

277
00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,200
Speaker 2: I've started. I I honestly, I I don't know if

278
00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,320
Speaker 2: it was this morning or yesterday. I was thinking and

279
00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, fuck because my brain has been

280
00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,280
Speaker 2: stuck in a lot of like this philosophy shit, and

281
00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm just like, dude, fuck, just like fuck this. You know, like, well,

282
00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,400
Speaker 2: because you know, like you meet, you've you've met. I'm

283
00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,960
Speaker 2: sure in the Air Force you met a lot of

284
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,560
Speaker 2: And this is not a dig on the Air Force.

285
00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,920
Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with the air Force. But just

286
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,920
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you meet people and when you do things. Yeah,

287
00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you met you've met people before where you're like,

288
00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,920
Speaker 2: because this fucking guy ever fucking thought about any thing.

289
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, that that kind of thing

290
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,880
Speaker 1: used to make me Mad's.

291
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you mad anymore, it's still it makes

292
00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,560
Speaker 2: me mad. Still, I'm like, and you know what, and

293
00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,320
Speaker 2: they're always having a great time. They're always having a

294
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160
Speaker 2: great time. I don't.

295
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, that's what used to piss

296
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,640
Speaker 1: me off.

297
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was having a great time. I don't

298
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,800
Speaker 2: think philosophy, I don't think that like being it like

299
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,560
Speaker 2: when you're an overthinker and you're dissecting things and you're

300
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,600
Speaker 2: like being like awareness and the fuck, you know what.

301
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 2: The fucking I'm sorry, I'm want suturant right now because

302
00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling this is I don't. I

303
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,520
Speaker 2: almost feel like there was. And by the way, I'm hope.

304
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to chat with someone who can really change

305
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880
Speaker 2: my mind about this. I really would, I really truly

306
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 2: would love to chat with someone who could change my

307
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:29,000
Speaker 2: mind about this. But I think we were sold or

308
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,560
Speaker 2: talked or or whatever that like consciousness was some kind

309
00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,280
Speaker 2: of a virtue where the philosophy was virtue, you know.

310
00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I believe that anymore. I

311
00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:45,240
Speaker 2: had a conversation, yes I was talking to I was

312
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:52,600
Speaker 2: talking to someone yesterday and I was like, you know,

313
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160
Speaker 2: I used to like, if I saw, like a seventy

314
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,720
Speaker 2: eight year old guy, uh in line at a grocery store,

315
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 2: he's yet and he's yelling at the cashier. That's a

316
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,199
Speaker 2: guy with no consciousness. That's the guy doesn't that's a

317
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,720
Speaker 2: guy with no consciousness. He doesn't think about his own mortality.

318
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,360
Speaker 2: He's probably not thinking about other people. He's not he's

319
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 2: not really thinking about suffering. He's not just I want

320
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,240
Speaker 2: to fish this thought. But yeah, I don't think he's

321
00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,000
Speaker 2: thinking about those things. I think he's deeply enthralled in

322
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,919
Speaker 2: the moment with his anger. He's his his emotions and

323
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 2: his anger are grounding him in the present, and he's

324
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 2: kind of and he's guiding he's being guided by them.

325
00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,320
Speaker 2: His emotions are are throwing him around and guiding him.

326
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,440
Speaker 2: And he sees something on the news and he gets

327
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 2: pissed off, and someone like and every little thing is

328
00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 2: like irking him. And and I used to and I

329
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,200
Speaker 2: used to think that I'm gonna say something so crazy,

330
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 2: and I and it's okay, this is courted and that

331
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm willing to be challenging that. And I used

332
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,960
Speaker 2: to be like, but that what that's not That's no

333
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 2: way to live being constantly thrown around by your emotions.

334
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 2: And now where I look at that guy and I'm like,

335
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,199
Speaker 2: I think that guy is I actually think there's a

336
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 2: lot of peace in that almost I kind of do.

337
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 2: I kind of do. I'm like, if you never fucking

338
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,919
Speaker 2: think about anything, you're never thinking about other people, and

339
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,919
Speaker 2: you're never thinking about the world around you, and every

340
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 2: day is the day that you're in, you're probably like

341
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 2: doing fun like like that, Like you're probably doing fine,

342
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 2: you know.

343
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. That dude's like living

344
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: authentically living authentically living, authentically.

345
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 2: Present at the expense of a lot of the people

346
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 2: that he's around.

347
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 1: The people and that's where he has self work to do.

348
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's never gonna do the worry he's

349
00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 2: gonna die and he's.

350
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 1: Just gonna And there's there's sty curmudgeons like that everywhere.

351
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 2: And whereas if you're if you're so conscious and you're

352
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 2: thinking about like and you're always thinking about uh, mortality,

353
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 2: and you're always thinking about you know, all that, and

354
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 2: you think you think about like whatever, you're like, oh god,

355
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 2: everyone in you know, you think about like third world countries,

356
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 2: and you think about like all the suffering, and it's

357
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 2: always there, no matter what's going on in the news.

358
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: There's always and there's forever, will be, always has been.

359
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: Currently is lots of lots and lots of human suffering

360
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 2: to dwell upon. And I think if you're thinking about

361
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,400
Speaker 2: those things and you're conscious about them, I think it's you.

362
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: You're It makes you make you depressed, and then you

363
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 2: start to believe things, and then you start to believe

364
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: things like existence is suffering.

365
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 1: But I think that, so I don't the suffering is

366
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, not a negative, Okay.

367
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 2: And that's where I and that's when I'm challenging myself

368
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you about this, is that I

369
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: think there is a way to be conscientious about things

370
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: larger than yourself. But but then you get to choose

371
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 2: what perspective you want to have on that. So go ahead,

372
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 2: why is it a beautiful.

373
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, my best friend is the one that's really

374
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: helping me wrap my head around this, and the way

375
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: he words it is nothing matters. And because of that,

376
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: nothing matters in the light sense, you know. So if

377
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 1: everything is suffering and nothing in life matters, because at

378
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: the end of the day, where this tiny little speck

379
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: that is insignificant in comparison to the universe. If all

380
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: of that is going on and nothing matters, then how

381
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: do you live? Your life is completely up to you.

382
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of freedom.

383
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: But that's I don't that spooks me. I have always.

384
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: Supposed to be scary. Yeah, I think it's I think

385
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be scary. It's cosmic. You're thinking, well

386
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: beyond your singular individual experience and contemplating the cosmos as

387
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: a whole.

388
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 5: It should be scary.

389
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you give a meet fuck it. Did you

390
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: ever meet a guy who works at a thing and

391
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: he's like and he's got like a girlfriend and he's like, yeah,

392
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: I saw a movie and there's like they're fine, fine,

393
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: everything's fine.

394
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think I think there's also like,

395
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, ignorance is bliss, And I don't mean that

396
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: as a negative. I think. I think there are some people,

397
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: whether it's mental illness or you know, soul or whatever

398
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: it is that causes you to contemplate existence. Maybe it's

399
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: even trauma. Like in this specific instance, it's been a

400
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: lot of very difficult life events that have led me

401
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: to contemplating all of this.

402
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: Folks listening to this podcast, I I are you guys

403
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: sick of this? Tell me if you're please.

404
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, please tell me no, no, no, this.

405
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: Is no no, this has nothing to do with you.

406
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 2: This is nothing to do with this. Do you can

407
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: totally remove call er, you can remove yourself from this

408
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: is me, this is me talking to Okay, Yeah, you

409
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: have to know if the people listening to this podcast

410
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: are sick of this because I've I've been I think

411
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: this year specifically, I've been getting too philosophical. Let me

412
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: know in the normally, in the comments if when people

413
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: get pissed off about things, I'm like, I don't know

414
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: why you guys are pissed off about that, But if

415
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: let me know if this is too much, if you're like,

416
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: I had to stop listening because I don't want to

417
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: have an existential crisis every time I'm doing the laundry.

418
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: I want to know. I'm okay, I will I would

419
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: love to have that feedback, I really would. I think

420
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: it's a double edged star. I think on one end, people,

421
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: you know, when we get into philosophical shit and we

422
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: talk to callers about it, I think a lot of

423
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: people have this experience of like, oh, this is amazing

424
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: because this is like, you know, uh, the conversation alludes

425
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: to a thing that people probably think about but don't

426
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: have any kind of like external representation of. And maybe

427
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: that's cool. But then also I'm like, God, this is

428
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: I just I just don't want to be a bummer

429
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, this is going, this is

430
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: going into my b this is this curtails into my life.

431
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 2: H I think I've started to like, I don't like

432
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: every every day I'm in I'm in some new, big,

433
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: crazy conversation. I don't like that anymore. I want to

434
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how do like, how do

435
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: I how do I get back to some sort of

436
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: normalcy or does that even exist? Does it? Does safety

437
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: or normalcy even exist? You know, do you feel you

438
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: feel like a normal person?

439
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: Who me?

440
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: No? Yeah?

441
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: Oh wait, yeah, I know you just said all that

442
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: stuff earlier.

443
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Now now I am. I'm super proud of being a weirdo.

444
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: But being a weirdo is my normal. Everybody's normal is different.

445
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Every person I've met, their normal is different than mine.

446
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I feel really confident in in that. Sometimes

447
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm I feel really uh, you know what it is.

448
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 2: I I I'm very complimentary and I hang out with

449
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: people and I don't mean that, and like, I don't

450
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: mean compliments. I mean like like, if I'm with somebody

451
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: and they're freaking out, I'm so calm and I'm like,

452
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: everything's fine, you know. But if I'm with someone and

453
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: they're calm, I'm the one freaking out. That's how Usually

454
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: when my friends' lives are going well, mine is not.

455
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: And my life is going well and I'm happy, and

456
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I check in with my friends, they're all they're usually

457
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: doing terrible. I don't know why that is. Hmmm.

458
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a human like instinct to balance

459
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: out the energies that you have with other people and

460
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: relationships that you have.

461
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have certain there's certain well I've probably

462
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: talked about this before, but like I have certain little

463
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: pockets of things where I'm like, I'm not nihila is

464
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: will not touch this, No, sir, it's not okay. Like,

465
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: for example, I, Oh, I got it. This is a

466
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: really important thing I need to talk about on the

467
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: podcast the I Well, maybe I talked about it. Maybe

468
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: I talked about one of the I R L episodes,

469
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: but uh, what day is today? Friday? As I'm recording

470
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: this six days six days ago, I woke up and

471
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: I was I was not doing well, and I was like,

472
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: I need to feel something, and so I I I

473
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: went to game Stop and I bought a switch.

474
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: To Oh, yeah you did talk about that. Yeah, that's yeah,

475
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: and so how did how did that work for you?

476
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: And I've been playing Donkey Kong Bonanza nice and this

477
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: is so I don't I don't want to keep being depressing.

478
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: I want to but I was like playing it and

479
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 2: I was like, what's the point of doing all this?

480
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: Like this is just stupid. And then but then once

481
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: I started to get into it, I got into it

482
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, there's a fucking banana. I'm

483
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna get the banana. There's the queens. If I get

484
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: enough of these fossils, I can make my I can

485
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: change the color of my fur. I'm like and once

486
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: I got into it, I was like, all right, I'm

487
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: so back in life. This is great. Yeah, now I'm

488
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: big into Donkey Kongbinez. No amount, no amount of nihilism

489
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: will stop me from being excited. Background I thought I

490
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: was six, right, Yeah, video games for me, And that's.

491
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Good because I also believe that time enjoyed can never

492
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: be considered time wasted.

493
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that. I anyway, m caller, Yeah,

494
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: we were talking about you were Yeah, we were talking

495
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: about Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

496
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about how I'm moving into Harrisburg soon, like

497
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: honestly next week. I just got the call, the approval call. Yes,

498
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: this today at noon.

499
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: So what is HVAC?

500
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 4: What?

501
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Like what is it's it's HVAC. So it's like I

502
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know the specific of like what that acronym stands for,

503
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest, but it's it's everything to

504
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: do with like air heating and cooling inside of buildings.

505
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: And a robot can't do that.

506
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: At least not currently. No, And I don't know if

507
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you saw, but there was a recent call for like

508
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: a big swell of hiring HVAC because you need air

509
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: conditioned rooms to host the servers that AI is using,

510
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: and they need a lot more server rooms. So there

511
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: was a recent federal thing to like make a point

512
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: of hiring a lot more HVAC people.

513
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: UMP and in on that.

514
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Things where you need to use your hands are good.

515
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm a chef, That's always been my

516
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: go to, but it just doesn't make as much money

517
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: as I would like it too.

518
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: You're a chef. Yeah, did you mention that at all

519
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this.

520
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Call, Yeah, I did. Like my full time job is

521
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: part time HIF, part time maintenance. On the campus that

522
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: I work at.

523
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: What do you cook? What do you make?

524
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Everything? So it's a retirement center and we do all

525
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: of our shopping at like the local grocery store. So

526
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: it's like literally at home cooking. And since I'm in Pa,

527
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like like just Pennsylvania home style cooking.

528
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: Like ham and.

529
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: String beans is something I make a lot. Parogi's shepherd's pie,

530
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, we make it. It's usually

531
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: like a soup and a sandwich for launch and then

532
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: some kind of baked prepared thing for dinner.

533
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: And the people in the retirement community. How old are

534
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: they like seventies?

535
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I work for a religious ortation. I'm

536
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: just going to try to keep that nonspecific. But so

537
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: the retirees can be anywhere from like forty up. And

538
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: then we have like people who are in between assignments

539
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: and they'll be and they can be anywhere from like

540
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight to seventy two. Like they'll just like stop

541
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: in for a month and then go to the next place.

542
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought it was like when you said

543
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: like retiree home, I thought it was like a nursing home.

544
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: No, it's it's independent living, but it is a retirement home.

545
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay. How are the retirees doing, Like what's their vibe

546
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: day to day?

547
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it can be so so it's

548
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of old white men. So you know,

549
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: sometimes there's really good days and sometimes they have a

550
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: bad day and I'm the only person available to take

551
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: it out.

552
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: On what like Okay, all right, So when I was

553
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: just talking about the guy yelling at the grocery store

554
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: and when on the whole rantom, yeah that guys. You

555
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: you are around those people a lot.

556
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I experienced at least once a week.

557
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the skinny on that you what's your

558
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: first hand analysis of that person.

559
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: At first, it was like really hard to not take

560
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: it personally, But once I got more used to that

561
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: just being a constant of working there, it was more

562
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: of a I was able to realize that it's not

563
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: about me. It's coming from their having a bad day.

564
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Something went wrong in their life, they lost control over something,

565
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: and again, I'm the most available outlet for those complex,

566
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: difficult emotions that they don't have the healthy outlet for.

567
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: So I got to a place where it's like, I

568
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: can't really judge you for just coming in and having

569
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: a bad day, because we all have bad days. But

570
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I can still say that the way you handled it

571
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: was incorrect. But at the end of the day, if

572
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: me saying that twenty times over the course of three

573
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: months doesn't change anything, then I just need to protect

574
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: my own peace and let that move on like water

575
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: off the back.

576
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I fully believe that whole thing of

577
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: of you know, it's never just about the thing that

578
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: the person is angry about. There's something under underlying. Always yeah,

579
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: well but that's okay, that's actually what I was gonna ask,

580
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: do you think it is always? Do you think every sometimes?

581
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: Because is that because sometimes? Is a person not ever? Like, No,

582
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: I genuinely am just pissed off that the ice cream

583
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: machine is broken.

584
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think I think that that happens.

585
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak like in blanket terms like yeah,

586
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: of course, somebody's just gonna be the kind of person

587
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: who gets really pissed off at the ice cream machine

588
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: and that's just the only thing they're pissed about. But

589
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's a lot more rare than the

590
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: like infusion of emotions towards an easier outlet. Like for me,

591
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: it's video games. I love getting on and just playing

592
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: like shooter games to like let out some frustration.

593
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love killing uh fake people.

594
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I go for aliens with hell divers. But yeah, same vibe,

595
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: same vibe.

596
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: Mister callers, sir, this is nice. This is a nice conversation.

597
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: I enjoyed to man.

598
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad I was able to talk to you.

599
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan.

600
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I'm you seem like you're doing good.

601
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited for the future for you. You're gonna

602
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: be going to heavy metal bands, You're gonna you're gonna

603
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: find you're gonna do boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever you're.

604
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Doing or whatever. I'm I'm I'm demi sexual. It could

605
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: be anything. I'm not picky.

606
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Demi What is demi sexual?

607
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: It means I like the vibe. So as long as

608
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: you and I vibe well, it doesn't matter what you

609
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: have under your clothes. I'm just excited to be around

610
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: somebody that I vibe well with. Okay, but but I

611
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: need that good vibe, like view them in a like

612
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: sexual context like I have with you. I'm not interested.

613
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: I have heard the term demisexual before, meaning like somebody

614
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: who can Basically, demisexual means I can only have sex

615
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: with you if I like you.

616
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in really simple terms.

617
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy stuff. Hell yeah man, Well caller, good.

618
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: Luck, Thanks man, appreciate it.

619
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

620
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

621
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Is it cool if I shout out my favorite local band?

622
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: Oh? Sure of course, awesome.

623
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, guys. Galactic Empire is a cover band out

624
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: here in PA. They do metal covers of Star Wars songs,

625
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: and they're just now releasing an album called cine Metal

626
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: later this month, where it's gonna be all covers from

627
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: different movies.

628
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Beautiful, They're super cool.

629
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: They dressed up in costume. I'm in contact with their costumer. Okay,

630
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: it's all good. Galactic Empire yep, and that's on all

631
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: social media's.

632
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: I feel is that too broad?

633
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: Like?

634
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: If I starch Galactic Empire on Instagram, type the word

635
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: band after oh, okay, type the word band after yep. Beautiful,

636
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Take care man.

637
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: Cool, thanks man you too?

638
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: Bye cow from. This is Sasha?

639
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: Hello?

640
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

641
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Is this a gek? Yeah?

642
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: Hi?

643
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: Who is this?

644
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: Hi?

645
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 6: This is Sasha. Can you hear me?

646
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: Okay?

647
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: I Ken? What's up Sasha?

648
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 6: I'm just hanging out right now. I've had some things

649
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 6: on my mind lately. I was wondering if I could

650
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 6: bounce them off.

651
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: You sure?

652
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Why not? What's up? What's going on?

653
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: Well?

654
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 6: I've been having some issues with my best friend of

655
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 6: like nine years. So we're boths like twenty, we're both

656
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: twenty four, and lately she's just been she's just been

657
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 6: kind of mean, and I like have been brushing it off,

658
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 6: but it's gotten to a point where I'm like, I

659
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 6: don't know how much more of it.

660
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I should just you know, put up.

661
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: With in what way has she been mean to you?

662
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: It's just like.

663
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 6: Little comments here and there. It started off with like

664
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 6: in the past few months, but it started escalating, and.

665
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 5: So like.

666
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 6: The thing that like was kind of the like the

667
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 6: catalyst for calling you, I guess is so we were

668
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 6: she and I had like made plans. She asked me

669
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 6: to come stay my apartment for the week because her

670
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 6: family was out of town and she like wanted some company.

671
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: So I was really excited to like have her. I

672
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: thought it'd be like a good chance for us to

673
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, reconnect and everything, since we had

674
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: been like having little fights here and there. And the

675
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 6: day that she was supposed to come over, she texts

676
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 6: me and cancels, saying that, like, you know, she she's

677
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: just like really anxious or whatever, and she has to

678
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: stay in her town because she lives in the suburbs.

679
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: I live in a big city, and she's been like

680
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 6: talking to this guy. She even told me, like the

681
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: guy asked her to hang out and she still like

682
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 6: said she couldn't. And then I check, like later in

683
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: the day, I checked her snapchat story. I saw that

684
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: like she posted a screenshot of their text and like

685
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 6: they had made plans right around the time that she

686
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: like canceled with me, and she had sud the whole

687
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 6: day getting ready and everything.

688
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: The second you're checking a Snapchat story to look at

689
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: a thing, we're we're already in. We're already in too deep.

690
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 6: I know it feels silly. I I'm like, I feel

691
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 6: like this is just like something I should.

692
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: Have been doing.

693
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: Well, you know, here's the problem, and it's and it's

694
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: it's it's fucking sucks and it's hard, and I I

695
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: don't know if I have a good answer for it,

696
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: but like, friendship should be easy, yeaheah, save the hard

697
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: ship for for your committed romantic relationships. Friendships should be easy,

698
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you're having to like play

699
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: detective on Snapchat, we're already in too deep. And it sucks, man,

700
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: because at a certain point, I think there's a bit

701
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: of relinquishment to be done.

702
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

703
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: And I'm only speaking from my own from my own life,

704
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: where you know, if you have friends that are that

705
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: are dodging you or that are they don't they don't

706
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: respond to you, or they are not nice to you.

707
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: It's like.

708
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: It.

709
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: It sucks. We live in a I think a world

710
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: that's like there's a bit of a scarcity of connection,

711
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: and so it's hard if you do of someone that

712
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: you've especially if someone you've been connected with for a

713
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: long time, it's to like draw that boundary and go listen,

714
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: we're fucking you know, uh uh there's we're hurtling towards

715
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: uh nothingness at an alarming rate. I gotta choose carefully

716
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: who I not only spend my time with, but just

717
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: like invest my energy in. I mean, you're investing in

718
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: the fact you called me, the fact that is on

719
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: your mind. Right, This is investing.

720
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know I've been stewing over it for

721
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: a stewing over it.

722
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Right right, right, I've been there. I know what that

723
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: you're just stewing over it. You're investing energy into this

724
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: fucking ship Like this shouldn't. This isn't what friendship should be.

725
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: It should be friendship would be easy, and there's something

726
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: to be said. I think about uh in one sense,

727
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: communicating your issues and seeing how that's received. But after

728
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: you do that, there's it's it's hard. I think you

729
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: there's you kind of have to withdraw at with a while.

730
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: That's the hard thing about these relationships is that there's

731
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: so much of it is not in your control. But

732
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: once but yeah, you've been stewing, right, and the stewing,

733
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: and there's so much better things you could be doing

734
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: with your time and your and your most importantly your

735
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: fucking energy because you can just waste so much energy

736
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: stewing and getting right now.

737
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 6: I totally I totally agree, and so why I'm like,

738
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 6: at this point, I just need to come to a decision,

739
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 6: like with myself about whether I'm gonna like just completely

740
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: let her go or like like try to forgive her.

741
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 6: But I'm kind of leaning towards, you know, just cutting

742
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 6: things off, because I did end up confronting her about

743
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 6: it that day.

744
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: You know, well, well, when you say forgiver, it's like

745
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: you can only forget someone if they uh uh you know,

746
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: ask for forgiveness, if they if they put in some

747
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: kind of effort to I mean, what did what did

748
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: she what? What what was her vibe?

749
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 6: Well? She she said that she was really well. First,

750
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 6: when I said, hey, what what are you guys like

751
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 6: doing together? She's with the guy like literally in my

752
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 6: in my city too, which was just the other thing

753
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: that kind of upset me. But she she said like, oh,

754
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 6: like we made plans really last minute, and I'm like,

755
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: you're lying to me, Like I can see.

756
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: It right there.

757
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 6: And then after that she apologized. She's like, I'm really sorry,

758
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: like I know that that.

759
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: Was messed up.

760
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 6: But so she's known this guy for two weeks also,

761
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 6: but they've been like going on some dates, and she

762
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 6: was telling me like, you know, he's just so important

763
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 6: to me, like I've like been really lonely. I want

764
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 6: a boyfriend. And I was like, like, I don't know.

765
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 6: She was like, I don't want you to think of.

766
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Is this a like this guy whatever? Who I don't

767
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: care about this guy?

768
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Right?

769
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: Like is this a recur is this a recurring element

770
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: of your friendship?

771
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: So she has had to.

772
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: Boyfriends in the past, and both times like this is

773
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 6: years ago, you know, but I did remember like feeling blown.

774
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: Off by her.

775
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yes, yes, some people get like that when

776
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: they get into relationships. They just kind of blow off

777
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: everyone else.

778
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, like like there would be a drop off in

779
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 6: like communication.

780
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's hard, man. These are hard issues to

781
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: do with. There's not a lot you can do.

782
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's just what I'm trying to because like, look,

783
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 7: if this person really, if this person I really strive,

784
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: I leave strongly in the whole, like if they wanted to,

785
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 7: they would thing like if this person really strongly wants

786
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 7: to be your friend, it fucking be your friend.

787
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: You know.

788
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: Yeah No. And I think she's like it's weird, Like

789
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: she's kind of made it clear that like she has

790
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: almost sort of this like malice that's been like coming

791
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 6: out towards me, but also like I know she still

792
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: loves me, but it's just gotten weird and toxic. Like

793
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 6: even after she had apologized when I confronted her, she

794
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 6: like made a point to be like I don't regret

795
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 6: what I did. I was like, why would you say that, Like,

796
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 6: you know, there's no reason to do that there. So

797
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 6: there's been all these comments and like just like the

798
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 6: like the lies and just kind of like mean stuff

799
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: or like trying to put me down lately. Then I'm

800
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 6: just like, I don't even really think she likes me

801
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 6: at this point, dude, which makes me really sad to

802
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: say that, Like I have to respect myself enough to too,

803
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 6: I don't know, not put up with that. I guess,

804
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: but it's just as hard.

805
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: It is hard. It is hard. I'm thinking about it,

806
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: and when it's happened in my own life, I think

807
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: there's probably something to be said about what can you

808
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: pursue outside of this to put you around other people.

809
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: This is one of the big I've talked about this

810
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: a bunch on this show, but this is one of

811
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: the big One of the great paradoxical challenges of life,

812
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: I believe is that we need other people to live

813
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: satisfying lives. Uh, but we also don't want to get

814
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: too wrapped up in things that are outside of our control,

815
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: and other people are outside of our control. It's one

816
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: of the big Yeah, it's it's a difficult tension. It's

817
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: one of the big difficult tensions of life. But I

818
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: think that as far as the things that are in

819
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: your control, there's there's a lot of ways in which

820
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: I think you can kind of move through the world

821
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: to put yourself around a lot of other people and

822
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: to make yourself available for connections with other people. And

823
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: that's kind of the elements that are in your control.

824
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: And also, you know, the element of not subjecting yourself

825
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: to our relationships with people who make you stew because

826
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: you never want Life's too short to spend it stewing

827
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: and getting pissed off and and you know all this stuff,

828
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: But it's the kind of the emotional acceptance of it

829
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: that's the difficult part.

830
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think, oh, sorry, my timer went off.

831
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 6: I think that's the thing that I've started to come

832
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 6: around to and what initially made me so I would say,

833
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: like angry in this instance, Whereas like if if I

834
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 6: feel like I've been flighted in the past, I will

835
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 6: do anything to like capitulate to the other person and

836
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 6: try to just like end the conflict even if I've

837
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 6: done nothing wrong, like I'll end up apologizing kind of thing.

838
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, and.

839
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 6: I'm coming around to just like I'm almost kind of

840
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: building my own sense of self for the first time.

841
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: And it's a little weird. It's a good thing, but

842
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 6: like it's making me reevaluate like all of my relationships.

843
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean it's definitely possible.

844
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Like I know that I.

845
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: Can like you know, build other like close connections. I

846
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: do have other like great friends too, but it's just

847
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: it just sucks when it's like your best friend. I

848
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 6: feel a sense of loyalty to her almost that I

849
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 6: would to like a family member, you know, but I

850
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 6: don't know if she feels that family, so I don't

851
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 6: think she does.

852
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: What's your name again?

853
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 6: Uh?

854
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: What is it's?

855
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

856
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 6: Sasha?

857
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: Sasha? Uh, well, Sasha, I'm sorry you're stressing about this,

858
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: but listen. Go you're twenty four. Where do you do

859
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: You live in a city?

860
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I live in Chicago.

861
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: You live in Chicago. Listen, Sasha, do me a favor,

862
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 2: Listen to me closely. Fucking go out, go leave your house,

863
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: go do some stuff, go exert.

864
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Guy would.

865
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: But the air quality is so bad right now, and.

866
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: She who gives it, who cares the air Callie is

867
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: only gonna get worse. The planet is is hurling towards

868
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: non existence. It's gonna get hotter and more difficult to

869
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: breathe every year. So you just get used to it.

870
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: Well now while you can. This is the best the

871
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: air quality is going to be forever.

872
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, a little smoke.

873
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: So so you go out and just try to make

874
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: try to make some friends, Try to hurl yourself in

875
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: situations where you're around other people, where you're attracting other people,

876
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: and you know, make your make yourself big and such

877
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: a whether you're attracting other people because you don't you

878
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: just fucking you don't want to be uh running around

879
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: for scraps, you know, I mean you. I think I

880
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: think you're better than that.

881
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I.

882
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Don't.

883
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: I don't think I deserve to putting myself in a situation.

884
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: So Chicago, Yes, you're twenty twenty four in Chicago, Go

885
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: kill someone. I don't know, do something. You should? Just

886
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: you should. I don't know. What do you do? You

887
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: like stuff?

888
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 6: I do like stuff?

889
00:47:59,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: You know.

890
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 6: I do have some plans to go out with some

891
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: friends tonight. You've got a big jestible here, so they

892
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 6: have like a bunch of like after shows. So I

893
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: have plans tonight, you know.

894
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep having, keep having keep having to get you

895
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: away from the stewing.

896
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will do my best.

897
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

898
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

899
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

900
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 6: Thank you for taking a call. I've been watching you

901
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 6: for years. Yeah, I appreciate you.

902
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sasha, have a go one.

903
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: All right, you too? Bye?

904
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: Hello?

905
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Hi?

906
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: Hi?

907
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: What's your name?

908
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: Herbert?

909
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: Herbert? What's up? Herbert? How's life?

910
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that I'm having a garage

911
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: sale and I'm moving to Toronto.

912
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: You're having a go all right, what's what's for sale

913
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: at this garage sale? Give us the details?

914
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, since I'm moving to Toronto, No, I'm getting rid

915
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: of some stuff because when I come back to get

916
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: my stuff, I'm I don't want to take some stuff

917
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: that I don't want.

918
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's that? What are we selling? What do

919
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: we got?

920
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: I was selling one of my bicycles that got sold

921
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: for eighty dollars. I got a picture of a wolf.

922
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: I got some bigs and some chairs and random stuff.

923
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: How much did you sell? I'm sorry, are you having

924
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 2: a garage sale? You had one?

925
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm having one?

926
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: Okay, as like as we speak, because you said it's

927
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: your bike sold for eighty bucks.

928
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah since Monday?

929
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, so how much is the picture of

930
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: the wolf?

931
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: We're pretty much just going for offers, Like, I don't

932
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: have any prices on anything, so whatever they give me

933
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: an offer for pretty much, say.

934
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, describe the wolf to me.

935
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: So it's a regular looking wolf that has the gray

936
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: fur and the white kind of fur with it, and

937
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: then he's just like the face the portrait of the Wolf,

938
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: and it looks like it's like staring out and stuff

939
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: alter realism.

940
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably not gonna buy it, but I wanted

941
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: to know miss what are you going? That's too much?

942
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Even in Canadian dollars, that's too much. Are you?

943
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 5: Are you?

944
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: Are you?

945
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: What's the word? Are you going to miss anything? Are

946
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: you going to miss any of these things you're selling?

947
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, definitely not.

948
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: Okay, not even a little bit. You're not going to

949
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: miss the Picture of the Wolf if it sells?

950
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: Uh not really. I still have stuff on my my own,

951
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: my belongings that I'm keeping, but I'm packing it all

952
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: away so my parents don't have to deal with it

953
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: when I go to Toronto.

954
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: What are you doing in Toronto?

955
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: I have to go back to school.

956
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: You said you have to go back to school. Why

957
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: do you have to go back to the school.

958
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: To get a license for something that I'm doing already?

959
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 3: I kind of don't want to get into detail because

960
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: of everything.

961
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, you have to get a license for something

962
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: that you're already doing. Correct. That's fucking lame.

963
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 5: Can you blame.

964
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: Are you selling any video games?

965
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

966
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Definitely? What are you selling Call of Duty Advanced Warfare.

967
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: There's one of those ones, call of.

968
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: Duty Advanced Warfare. What fucking number is that?

969
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: That's my favorite one. I think that's like the fourth

970
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 3: or fifth or something.

971
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

972
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: There's no way it's the fourth. The fourth is called

973
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Duty four, the fifth is World at War. I fell

974
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: off after Modern Warfare three after that. I have no idea.

975
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: It's my favorite one because of the exoskeletons. I don't

976
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: know if any of the other ones have it. Exoskeletons

977
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: can jump and run really quick.

978
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: Did anyone try to habble you at the garage sale?

979
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: No?

980
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 3: If Like, so, there's a couple of customers that won't

981
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: give me an offer, and they pretty much asked me

982
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: to say what the price is, and then if they

983
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: don't like the price, they'll go lower.

984
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, okay, how do you how do

985
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: you evaluate? Like, how'd you come up with ten bucks

986
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: for this wolf picture? By the way. The fact, by

987
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: the way, just so you know, remember when I asked

988
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: you if you're going to miss any of these things

989
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: and you said no, that's the wrong answer because you

990
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: immediately devalued the wolf picture because now because I'm not

991
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: interested in the wolf picture that you're not going to

992
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: miss you know what I mean, I want you to be.

993
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: Here's what you have to do. You have to be

994
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: like listen, I'm it kills me to part with this

995
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: wolf picture, but I have to do it for my

996
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: own survival. Then I'm like, oh shit, okay, this actually

997
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: sounds like it has value. But if it's like, oh,

998
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about this, then I'm like, well,

999
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: you know, this must not be a very good wolf picture.

1000
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You gotta really you gotta

1001
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: kind of ham it up a little bit.

1002
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: Well, the way I see it is that it's not

1003
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: about the money. It's about just like being fair in

1004
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: the garage sale, because the garage sale is like I

1005
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: want to get rid of some stuff, and like I

1006
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: mean people come here to like get stuff for their

1007
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 3: own place, and I mean I don't want to jyp

1008
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: them or anything.

1009
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: Do you live in like a walk like a cul

1010
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: de sac of some kind, like like this is a

1011
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: literal garage sale, Like you're selling out of.

1012
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: A garage in our front yard.

1013
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a lot of passer buyers? A

1014
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: lot of foot traffic.

1015
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: No, Unfortunately, I live out of town about ten minutes,

1016
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: so it's kind of slow.

1017
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: How do people find out about this? Do you put

1018
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: up a sign?

1019
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: Do you have signs in marketplace?

1020
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Do you put them out? Do you put it on

1021
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: a Facebook marketplace or any of that shit?

1022
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1023
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay. Are most of the people driving to the garage

1024
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: sale or do they stumble upon it?

1025
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: I think they have to drive too. I don't think

1026
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: you can really stumble upon it. I'm kind of I

1027
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: don't want to really say, but like out of town,

1028
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: so I mean like there is other houses here, but

1029
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean, no one's really walking to the garage sale.

1030
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: What is one thing that is not for sale at

1031
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: your garage sale? But if given a certain price, you

1032
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: would sell it?

1033
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: The chair I'm sitting on. This chair is not going

1034
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: anywhere unless someone asks a hundred bucks for it.

1035
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: I'll give you one hundred bucks for it. It sounds like

1036
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: a great chair. See, that's what it is. The thing, right,

1037
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: that's what you should do. That's what it's how you

1038
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: got to ham it up in the garage sale. You

1039
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: got it's the things that aren't for sale. Like you

1040
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: ever seen toy story too, that's a classic garage sale movie.

1041
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: The value of Woody goes up because he's not for sale,

1042
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: just supplying demand economics.

1043
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 3: Well, I just would like to be more fair. I

1044
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: don't want them to be like that was a rip

1045
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 3: off at that garage sale, never coming back.

1046
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, is it not a nice chair? Oh?

1047
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: It is so comfy.

1048
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Sounds like it's worth a hundred dollars. Sounds like it's

1049
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: worth more.

1050
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: Are you guys doing any Are you doing any like

1051
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: talks in Toronto? I heard that you had one in Edmonton.

1052
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do something in Edmonton, but I don't know

1053
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: when I will go to Toronto. I mean, I love Toronto.

1054
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: Toronto's awesome. Maybe in twenty twenty six, we shall see

1055
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: if people still want to see me. I don't know yet.

1056
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: I think I haven't. I don't know.

1057
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: I haven't go ahead.

1058
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: I've been to a live one like I'm close to Edmonton,

1059
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: but like not that close.

1060
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: If people still want to see me, I'll go. If

1061
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: people still want to, If people are still down, I'll go.

1062
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: I might go again in twenty twenty six, we'll see.

1063
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: I had I had to stop this year, but six

1064
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 2: I might go. Definitely going to Edmonton. I don't again,

1065
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't know when, but Edmonton will. I mean no,

1066
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: I do know when, but I don't know where. But

1067
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: that information will be revealed at some point. What's your

1068
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: name again, Herbert? Herbert? Is there anything else you want

1069
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before we go?

1070
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm so happy I got on best stay ever.

1071
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm happy we got to talk to and I wish

1072
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: you good luck with your garage sale. And I hope

1073
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: you take my advice and you ham it up and

1074
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 2: you get what that fucking chair is worth.

1075
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: Not for sale by Herbert, but.

1076
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: Two hundred dollars for the chair. Hello, Oh hey, gay, Hey,

1077
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: what's up?

1078
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 5: Not much, man, it's been a while.

1079
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 2: Have we talked before?

1080
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

1081
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: Not really, But I don't know if you can recall

1082
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 5: that one time you were asleep and I called you

1083
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: and I played you a tune on my yuke Yes.

1084
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, wow, holy fucking shit, amazing.

1085
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like years ago. Man, All right, So back in

1086
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: a long time, back in two.

1087
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: Back, and I'll explain. Back in twenty twenty one, I

1088
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: was I was living and kind of starting up this

1089
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: stream in my mom's basement, and I remember I was

1090
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: there for a year and a half and I would

1091
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: do these things called experimental Tuesdays. And one time I

1092
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: did this where like I went live on Twitch, but

1093
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: I was asleep and I put a phone number up

1094
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, call me, and I was I

1095
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: put a phone number up and I was like, please

1096
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: do not call this number. I am asleep and it

1097
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: was and then somebody would call the phone and I

1098
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: would pick it up and I would go what it was.

1099
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. And then yeah, you

1100
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: called and you played, You played the ukulele. I actually

1101
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: totally remember.

1102
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 5: This, Yeah, dude, Like I remember, I haven't watched you

1103
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 5: in a really fucking long time, but I remember, like

1104
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: back in the day when you would open the line

1105
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 5: and then you'd have to like fill the air for

1106
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: like ten minutes waiting for a call to go through. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 5: like the really early days. Man, like good fun man.

1108
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: Me and my old roommate used to hang around and

1109
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: drink beer and yeah kind of watch you get it

1110
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: off the ground?

1111
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Cool? Well, how are you doing now, Pat? What's going on?

1112
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1113
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that ukulele should ever made it into

1114
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: the podcast. So this is our This is our first

1115
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: official time speaking together on a recorded line.

1116
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean like these sure going okay.

1117
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 5: I mean I've got a few complaints about life, but

1118
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 5: i mean who doesn't you know mm.

1119
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: Hm, and you're a Canadian.

1120
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah I am. Oh you probably like you've read that

1121
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: off like the Google thing or whatever.

1122
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that off the Google thing or whatever.

1123
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: We're in Canada. Where in Canada are you?

1124
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: I live in Northern Alberta. Oh okay, what like we

1125
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 5: got on the Yeah, we get like the the harsh

1126
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: weather up here, like the really really hot weather, we

1127
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 5: get the really cold weather. We get it all.

1128
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: I haven't like announced this anywhere yet, but I'm doing

1129
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: a show in November Edmonton.

1130
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: Dude, you're coming to my town?

1131
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Wait? You live in Edmonton?

1132
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, do you want to have a beer?

1133
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: Oh? Shit? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah, I don't know how. Yeah,

1134
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming to Edmonton

1135
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: in uh November. I'm doing a college show there.

1136
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: And what college?

1137
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I don't remember off the top of my head.

1138
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: But once you enter Grant Mac or what, once there

1139
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: are tickets available, I will know that information off the

1140
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 2: top of my head.

1141
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, Okay, yeah, then I'll buy a ticket, and

1142
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 5: I'll buy one from my old roommate, uh who used

1143
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 5: to watch with me back in the day.

1144
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: Cool, very good fuck yeah yeah which uh yeah, So

1145
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: uh well, I mean, what's going on in Edmonton? I

1146
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: looked it up on Google Maps, and it seems like

1147
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: it's kind of in the middle of nowhere.

1148
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 5: Uh well, I mean kind of. I would consider it,

1149
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: like it's kind of one of the cultural hubs of

1150
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 5: the entire country. If you want to find all kinds

1151
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: of different shit, Like we've got a pretty big arts

1152
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 5: and culture scene, you go down to White Alve Like

1153
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 5: even I think right now they're putting on like a

1154
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 5: collective visual art, science music, like learning about neurochemistry while

1155
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 5: people are making live art exhibition going on here. I

1156
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 5: don't really know that much about it though, but like

1157
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll be able to find something that if

1158
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 5: you have the time to put into it, that you'll

1159
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 5: be able to take something out of it too.

1160
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: So Pat, you said your name was, Do you still

1161
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: play the ukulele.

1162
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: A little bit?

1163
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: Not really, like more of a kind of kicking around

1164
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 5: on the couch when my buddies are playing the guitar.

1165
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: I'll pull it out and play a few tunes, but

1166
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 5: not that much anymore. I've kind of like let my

1167
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: music fall to the.

1168
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: Wayside any particular reason why.

1169
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I've got other hobbies, and you know, I'm

1170
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: in my thirties now, and your time, like, while you're

1171
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 5: getting older, you kind of just get crunched for it

1172
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 5: and you've got to figure out where are your priorities,

1173
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: what things do you actually want to do with your time?

1174
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 5: And then like the importance of having downtime too is

1175
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: becoming more and more apparent to me.

1176
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: What is the thing? What are the things that are

1177
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: crunching you for time?

1178
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I've like gotten into a more serious

1179
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 5: relationship and you've got to make time for that. Alternatively, Like,

1180
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 5: I've been working more and my work is like really

1181
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 5: stressful a lot of times. What is your work? So

1182
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 5: I work in the mental health field. I do home

1183
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 5: care for folks with disabilities, so that can range. Oh dude, well,

1184
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: I mean like it's a real give and take though, right,

1185
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 5: Like I work night shift, so you could have a

1186
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 5: really really laid back night where you don't really do

1187
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 5: much at all, like maybe making some people breakfast or

1188
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: hanging out and shooting the shit, or even just like

1189
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 5: watching Twitch half the night. But then like, in contrast

1190
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: to that, you have nights where you're doing like nine

1191
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 5: hours of crisis intervention and it's not always easy, but

1192
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: you know, as long as you don't bring it home

1193
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: with you, you.

1194
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: Know what, what is the nine hours of crisis intervention look? Like?

1195
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 5: I mean, for like legal and privacy reasons, like I

1196
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 5: couldn't go into any actual specificies for my real job, but.

1197
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: Well like if you could, you like, could you like

1198
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: make up a scenario of like what something?

1199
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 3: Okay?

1200
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like imagine like pick a pick.

1201
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 4: Any name at all, uh, Kyle?

1202
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: Okay? Imagine if Kyle was an Afghanistan war vet who

1203
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 5: suffered a traumatic brain injury and he's got PTSD and

1204
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 5: now he's also got physical and mental disabilities from his injuries.

1205
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 5: I could show up to Kyle's house and we're gonna,

1206
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 5: you know, Kyle's to go to bed, it's eleven o'clock

1207
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 5: at night, but instead, you know, maybe there's something going on,

1208
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 5: some kind of trigger that sets him off. And then

1209
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 5: my goal would largely be to de escalate the situation

1210
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 5: before it progresses to a point where you're in a

1211
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: real crisis. So falling back on like procedures that you've

1212
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: got in place and policies and known strategies that have

1213
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 5: been developed by a team that has degrees and stuff,

1214
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 5: and then my goal would be to implement them on

1215
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 5: the ground to try to, you know, make sure that

1216
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 5: you don't end up with injuries to people in the community,

1217
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 5: or injuries to the client that you're serving or to

1218
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 5: the staff, or police involvement. The goal is more or

1219
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: less to exist be ahead of that by knowing the

1220
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 5: client and knowing the procedure.

1221
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought, yeah, that was very That was very general.

1222
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: That was a very general assessment. I thought you were

1223
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: going to be like, yes, someone was doing something and

1224
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: I would and I did something and then I did something. Wait,

1225
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: that was more vague.

1226
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah.

1227
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 2: Okay, so you your job is taken up a lot

1228
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: of time, relationships taken up a lot of time. Give kids.

1229
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 5: No, I mean I have I have a big ass

1230
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 5: dog who's also kind of a lot of work. But

1231
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 5: I'm a good company. What kind of dog, Okay, German shepherd, Muddy.

1232
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: That's a very big dog.

1233
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, a real yeah, big pooch. But and then

1234
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 5: I mean, like I've got other hobbies too. I practiced archery,

1235
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 5: and I like hiking and fishing and hunting.

1236
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, wait, you're like a real guy. That's awesome.

1237
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the kind of a weird way to

1238
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 5: put it, but yeah, depending on how you classify a real.

1239
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: Guy, you're a real guy is someone you know, who does?

1240
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: I think a real guy is like you do stuff,

1241
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: you know.

1242
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like my my hobbies aren't like, I

1243
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 5: don't know, fucking watching paint dry or anything. Right, But yeah,

1244
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 5: I mean, no.

1245
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: You're right.

1246
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.

1247
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 5: You're real.

1248
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: You're a real guy. You gotta no, you're you know

1249
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: what I mean. No, you're you're a real guy, all right.

1250
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: You have you got a job, or you help people,

1251
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: You're you got a girlfriend, wife, you got a dog,

1252
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: you do, you do hunting, you do archery, or a

1253
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 2: real guy. You're a real human being.

1254
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do all the things you do, all

1255
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: the things.

1256
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm telling you. I'm not I'm not.

1257
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy what I'm saying.

1258
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 5: No, No, I totally get where you're coming from. But like

1259
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 5: it would have been like an easy angle to kind

1260
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 5: of pick in dude, to be like, you should play

1261
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 5: the ukulele, and you played me the song of Storms,

1262
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 5: and now you don't play the ukulele? What the fuck

1263
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 5: yourself with that? Like, yeah, it's I mean, things are

1264
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 5: going generally quite well. Like I'm not I'm not so

1265
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 5: bent out of shape that I'm like, oh fuck, hang

1266
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 5: up my ukulele, I quit forever. But I mean, like

1267
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 5: in contrast to that, like nothing ever goes perfect, you know,

1268
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 5: Like I've been having a pretty challenging week this week.

1269
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 5: I found out that morning that I've got shingles.

1270
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, what are shingles?

1271
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like when you got chicken pass when you

1272
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 5: were a kid and then it comes back and gets

1273
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: you as an adult. But I thought that I had

1274
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 5: just been hit by poison ivy when I was out

1275
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: in the woods last weekend. But as it turns out,

1276
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: I've actually got like shingles, which apparently you're not even

1277
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 5: supposed to get until you're like an old man, and

1278
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 5: I'm in my early thirties. And uh yeah, Like as

1279
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 5: a consequence of that, I've been dealing with some pretty

1280
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: like moderate to severe nerve pain all week, and it's

1281
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 5: kind of gotten me thinking, what's the way Well, like,

1282
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 5: have you ever thought of about how you conduct yourself

1283
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 5: in regular life when you're also dealing with physical pain?

1284
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: I guess not really.

1285
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of like, to my mind, it's

1286
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 5: kind of like being very, very tired, Like everything is

1287
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 5: harder when you're really tired if you haven't slept in

1288
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 5: a day or two, Like shit that you can do

1289
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 5: very easily, very quickly turns into like what the fuck?

1290
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 5: I don't even want to do that, you know, Okay, okay,

1291
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 5: And that's been kids of the thing that I've been

1292
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 5: trying to wrap my head around because I've been offered

1293
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 5: a few days off work. I don't really know if

1294
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 5: I want to take them, but.

1295
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1296
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 5: That's just kind of been the thing that I've been

1297
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 5: wrapping my head around.

1298
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: M Why uh, why did you quit the ukulele?

1299
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I'm I'm kind of very often

1300
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 5: one of those people who will perpetually pick up a

1301
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 5: new hobby and then eventually drop it to the wayside.

1302
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: It's good too, I think you know, people people a

1303
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: dog on like being a generalist, but I think it's good.

1304
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: I think it's good to have a lot of different

1305
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 2: stuff that you do.

1306
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the the ukulele is far from

1307
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 5: the only instrument that I quit. You know, I played

1308
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 5: banjo for a while, I played the bass for a

1309
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 5: long a long while actually, But eventually I always find

1310
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 5: myself like, where's the new thing?

1311
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what's the what's your next new hobby?

1312
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 5: Well, right now, I've really been knuckling down on learning

1313
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 5: how to bow hunt.

1314
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you really like you like hunting, Yeah, and.

1315
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 5: So I've been doing that for a couple of years,

1316
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 5: but this is the first year that I've actually taken

1317
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: it more seriously, Like I've put in the work.

1318
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: What have we what have we been hunting?

1319
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 5: Well, I haven't been hunting anything. I've just been like

1320
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 5: scouting and preparing things.

1321
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1322
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 5: I went out and put out trail cameras that I've

1323
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 5: been moderning, monitoring and patterning the deer. And then I

1324
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 5: went out recently and hung a tree stand and uh, yeah,

1325
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 5: it's kind of putting into season work, which.

1326
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1327
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 5: It adds a different kind of dynamic to it, okay,

1328
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 5: And it's a it's kind of like a discipline in

1329
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 5: and of it. Shelf, which I think is the thing

1330
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 5: that I like about hunting is that you're combining like

1331
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: twenty different disciplines that you have to learn if you

1332
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 5: want to make it actually work. And I think that's

1333
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 5: why it keeps me engaged.

1334
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: Well then fuck ukulele.

1335
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's nothing wrong with playing a little

1336
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 5: bit of ukulele too.

1337
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: All Right, if I when I come to Edmonton, if

1338
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: you come to the show, will you bring the ukulele?

1339
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I've got like a little backpack thing that

1340
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 5: I could put it into.

1341
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, come to the show, bring the ukulele,

1342
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: and and we can do what we did four years ago,

1343
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 2: but we can do it in real life.

1344
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 5: And you'll take a nap and I'll like hang up

1345
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 5: by your bed and play you a tune.

1346
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds fucking sick.

1347
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, uh, do you have any requests?

1348
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: Can you can you do a sonic the Hedgehog Green

1349
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: Hill Zone?

1350
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 5: Hold on, I'm gonna put that into a different cab.

1351
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: I bet you could do that on ukulele Green Hill.

1352
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 5: John, Okay, Yeah, Well, I mean I'll see what I

1353
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 5: can do.

1354
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: Probably gonna you know, all right, I have at this

1355
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: either either that or you can uh or you can

1356
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: kill me with a crossbow. What either of those two

1357
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: things are okay with me?

1358
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 5: I'm I'm above using a cross though.

1359
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: What is the what is the thing you use? Use

1360
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: a regular bow and arrow?

1361
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like a vertical bow.

1362
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you can kill me with that.

1363
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Well then, but I'll look into that the Hedgehog.

1364
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to hunt me down. I'll get naked,

1365
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: I'll what is.

1366
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 5: The gecko season out here? How do I draw a tag?

1367
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 2: I'll get naked, increase myself up, and I'll run through

1368
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: the woods and you can chase me and you can

1369
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: uh try to strike me down again. Either that or

1370
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: greenhill Zone on the ukulele would be a perfectly good

1371
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: activity for us to do together.

1372
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1373
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 5: Well then, I mean, like if I if I have

1374
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 5: to default back to like legend of Gelda, like are

1375
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 5: you here for it?

1376
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: Or if you have to if you can't play Sonic

1377
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: the Hedshog greenhill Zone, you're hunting me in the woods?

1378
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 2: Two options, nothing in between?

1379
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: All right?

1380
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1381
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 5: Well then I mean I'll really really try my best

1382
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 5: in Green hill Zone because I don't think that I'd

1383
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 5: like to do that other option. So yeah, I'll give

1384
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 5: it the old college try beautiful.

1385
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Yeah, I'm Pat, Pat?

1386
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 5: Pat.

1387
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1388
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1389
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, people on the internet, remember to take a little

1390
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 5: bit of time to exerciage shelf care, even if it's

1391
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 5: only like thirty minutes a day.

1392
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: Verty cool, Pat forever? Okay, Yeah, all right, I'll see

1393
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 2: you in Canada, Pat.

1394
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. If you see me hold up my fucking ukulele,

1395
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 5: then college.

1396
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: I'll know. I'll know. Don't worry if I see If

1397
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm at this place and I see someone holding up

1398
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 2: a ukulele, I will know it's you.

1399
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 5: Okay, perfect man, somebody.

1400
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: Unless somebody hears this and then they also go.

1401
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 5: They're like, oh yeah, they're all coming out from Calgary.

1402
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 5: They're gonna drive over and bring their you. Okay, you'll

1403
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 5: know the real Pat when you find me.

1404
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 2: I'll know the real Pat. Don't worry. I know my pet, okay,

1405
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: all right, all right, take care of Pet.

1406
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: All right.

1407
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 2: Bye, Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the end of

1408
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: this episode. But get this, I'm releasing a bonus episode

1409
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: this week. That's right, an entire extra hour of the

1410
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 2: podcast that you can listen to by becoming a Premium

1411
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 2: member of Therapy Gecko over at therapy Gecko dot supercast

1412
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: dot com. Supercast subscribers get access to bonus episodes, They

1413
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: get a completely ad free podcast feed of the regular show,

1414
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,480
Speaker 2: they get recordings from my live shows, members only streams,

1415
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: and they help support my ability to continue doing this podcast.

1416
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: So here's a clip from this week's members only bonus episode.

1417
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: So I have something really weird I'm scared of that

1418
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: I feel like could be an interesting topic.

1419
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, if you want to talk about it, we

1420
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: can talk about it.

1421
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a fear of chickens.

1422
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: How serious are you being right now?

1423
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm dead serious.

1424
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: You have a fear of chickens.

1425
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a fear of chickens.

1426
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: Where does that stem from? If you want to hear

1427
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: this full conversation, you can sign up to become a

1428
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: premium member at therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com or

1429
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: find the link in the episode description. That's therapy Gecko

1430
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: dot supercast dot com. All right, I have nothing else

1431
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: to say.

1432
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 6: Again, goes on.

1433
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: The line, thank you every night ever, goes to teaching

1434
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: You in the line