WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Darius Leonard to ... Dallas?? 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:16.360 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:18.000 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:18.520 Yes? 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.400 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.200 Absolutely? Ready for a break? 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:23.840 Yeah? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.560 And so much for that. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.000 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:37.920 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.360 It is Wednesday, November twenty second, twenty twenty three, season nineteen, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.880 episode number seventy six. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.599 The Break. We are laughing the s WBC Mortgage studios. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:50.559 At the Star. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.479 Amber's out today, but I got Brian and Patrick and 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.520 with me we will be talking Cowboys versus Commanders. That 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.560 happens tomorrow. I guess the times three thirty. I think 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.240 three thirty local time here Central time zone. So we're 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.480 going to get into that. Give you our picks before 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.160 we get to the end of the show, and I 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.360 want to start a little bit first. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.840 We're going to get some injury updates. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.200 But I also want to talk about a player yesterday 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.600 got waved that I want to get some interest from 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.119 you guys on whether you would do something with that 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:19.520 that player we'll talk about this. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:22.360 That player get waived. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.320 I think it. I thought he was I thought. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.680 Yesterday. I just make sure we can talk about it. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.800 I just want to make sure I know that I 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.639 know this player. I just want to make sure. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.720 That I saw I saw what you tweeted. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.560 That's why I was like, yeah, we're talking about it, okay, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.520 But we'll get to give me some injury updates. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:39.679 First. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.480 There are a couple of guys did not practice. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.080 Again, the path you were going down. A lot of people, 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:45.440 a lot of people listen to the show. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:46.959 Now, you know, a lot of people don't know. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.040 If they don't know, like, we have to be very 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.720 careful pay the NFL can sometimes give our people a 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.920 phone call and say that we're tampering because we talked 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.400 about players. So we're very careful about talking about players 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.360 that are on other teams. But I think it is 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.000 official that he is on the wave of Why I 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:01.880 think he's on the wave of wire. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.720 At this point, we could talk about the young man. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:04.840 So we can talk about all right, we're gonna get 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.120 to that. Let's talk first about injuries. Ric o'dowdell, jay 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.400 Ron Curse, where are we. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.280 Rico dawdo sounds like with the conference called that Mike 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.200 McCarthy just had with a handful of media, that there's 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.280 optimism that Rico can take the field on tomorrow. He's 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.240 been participating in the walkthroughs as well as the meetings, 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.640 and of course today is going to be another practice, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.040 but it sounds like Rico's going to participate in today's 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.480 practice as well, and the needless pointing up. We'll see 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.359 if that's a game time decision, but there's at least 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.240 some optimism there as far as Ceeddi Lama asked him, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.840 you know, straight up yesterday before the injury report came out, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.399 said hey, you got banged up a little bit, how's 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:38.760 the ankle? 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:39.400 How you feeling? 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.760 He said, and I'll quote, I'll be out there getting 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.760 active end quote, And then injury report came out. He 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.400 was a full participant yesterday, so it looks like he's 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.800 a full go. Jay Ron Curse HARKing back to what 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.560 I said yesterday, I'm not feeling confident about him, and 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.520 that was prior to what McCarthy just said. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:56.800 Not an hour ago. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.440 He said that Curse has to practice today to have 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.040 even a remote chance of taking the field tomorrow. I'm 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.120 going to go ahead and take that as you can 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.120 probably scratch Jayron Curse. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.360 We'll see if that's the case. But needless pointing down there. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:20.720 So uh yeah, backs, so I say, penciling more oney 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.560 Thomas probably sprinkling some Israel mcwambo as well. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.160 But I want to see him, yeah, I want to 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:25.520 see him. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.919 I don't see jay Ron taking the field tomorrow and 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.040 not tomorrow, yeahrow'. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.080 It's Thanksgiving already. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.120 So yeah, so that's where we always that Michael Gallup 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.440 had he missed yesterday because of a personal reason. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:38.760 He's back today. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.680 He was in the locker room last night, but McCarthy 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.120 said he'll be back in practice today. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.720 Uh, and everyone else is expected to take the field. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.400 Awesome, So it looks good. Ric O'Donnell jay Ron cursl too. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.320 We'll keep an eye on especially jay Ron Curse heading 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.160 into tomorrow's game. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.160 So let's talk about this this player by the. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.560 Way, real quick on that, because we broke down the 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.920 commander's logan Thomas and stuff. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.160 How they how the safeties play. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.200 Against him tomorrow in this game I think will be 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.720 really important. So if Curse can't go, is it you know? 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.640 Thomas Wilson those. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:18.440 I mean, anything's a better cover guy between Curse and Thomas. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.040 Thomas, I think, and I mean, I don't know, Patrick 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.279 might disagree with me, but to me, I see a 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.960 guy that when you watch he plays. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.240 With a little bit more of a burst. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.160 I think that Curse is more straight lined and if 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.080 you ask him to have to flip and turn, he's 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.000 a longer guy. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.279 And it's just natural when you when. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.279 You scout these guys and they're they're high cut, and 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.200 we say high cut, they they're wasting their short upper body, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.279 you know, and high waisted, and so when you watch 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.839 those guys play, they don't naturally look smooth. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:49.040 You know, there's some. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.280 Guys that can that can pedal turn long leged guys 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.520 and it's like, well, you know, that gets your attention. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.800 But generally guys that are long limbed don't look quick, 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.320 and they're not quick, but. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.720 They can play down hill. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.919 Thomas to me, is a little bit more shifty because 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.080 when you watch him play, when you watch him play 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.960 on special teams, his ability to avoid. You know, Kurs 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.520 had a really good rush the other day where he avoided, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.800 but it was downhill and it was a little bit 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.400 of a slight movement. If I had to say, let 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.359 me cover with a guy, I'm gonna throw Thomas. I 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.440 think he's got a little bit more corner skill to 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:23.839 his game. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:24.760 Yeah, I do agree. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.400 I believe Thomas is a better cover guy because of 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.360 all the reasons that Brian said he hit him all 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.919 on the head. It's not that jay Ron is worse 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.200 at coverage. He's different in how he covers. So what 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.520 you're going to give up to get wan Ye's quickness 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.520 in his burst is you're giving up the length. You're 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.240 giving up that loganoma, You're giving up that wing, that 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.040 wingspan that you're going that you have with jay Ron Curse. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.080 But with Curse being that longer defensive back, he doesn't 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.200 have the ability to change direction as quickly as je Ye, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.120 who was obviously a little bit close to the ground, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.320 lower center of gravity, and Wanya can be a little 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.640 bit more physical, not to say that jay ronni is 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.760 not physical, but Wanya is more compact, a little more style, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.320 ready to kind of drive through the guy. So two 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.200 different types of coverage. But wan Ye does have a 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.159 little bit more burst, a little bit quicker, but he 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.760 doesn't have that length, that wingspan, that he said that, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.800 Brian said, if you're going against Logan Thomas, that'll come 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.640 in handy time or two. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:18.839 All right, let's move on. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.159 Let's talk a little bit about Darius Leonard. He is 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:26.600 a linebacker that was with Indianapolis placed on waivers. So 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.640 the first thing is he has to clear waivers. I 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.240 think what I read is basically his contract right now 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.640 will cost roughly about six point one million is where 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.680 his contract is for this year. And then if he 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.200 gets past waivers, and obviously he'd be available to sign 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.839 with whoever he chooses to sign. My question is, first, Brian, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.880 give us a scouting report on what you've seen from 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.920 him this year, because we know traditionally this has been 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.760 a guy that's been a really good linebacker, one of 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.279 the better linebackers in the league. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.159 What is he now at this point in his career? 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.680 Okay, team you need to worry about. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.600 His first potential claim is Chicago and I say this 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.440 because his best years was with Matti Eberflus. Now, if 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.719 you're the front office in Chicago, are you thinking about 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.040 making a change from your head coach? Do you bring 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.600 in a guy like this to you know, if Matt 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.320 Eberflu steps up and says, hey, we could really use 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:17.840 this guy. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.080 I coached him. I know this guy. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.960 You know he could help us. You know, we're trying 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.480 to rebuild his team. You know, Ryan tolds. Those guys 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.600 could say Poles could say, well, yeah, okay, thanks coaching, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.520 because that's the team. I think you'd have to worry 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:37.200 about the claim just because the head coach has familiarity 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.840 with the player. Now, there's some other teams that could 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.080 use a linebacker. You know, Philadelphia clearly is a team 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.560 that could use linebacker help. The thing about it is 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.720 and they could maybe feel like, well, Dallas could be 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.640 in this, but well Dallas claim Well, to make sure 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.480 we don't have to compete against Dallas for this player, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.120 we can go ahead and make the claim ourselves. Philadelphia 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.600 is behind you in the in the in the claiming order. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:04.920 Yeah, I would be worried about them. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.720 Yeah, so Philadelphia is a team that might they because 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.920 of the situation there. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.160 Buffalo is another team. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.800 They just lost in the Kobe Dean Yeah exactly. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:19.920 Yeah, so yeah, so them, Buffalo. There's some teams that 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:24.239 are looking for linebacker help. If you're a Dallas Cowboy fan, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.920 you these shows that we did leading up to h 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:34.040 this period where Leonard gets released, we kept talking about 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.199 if you could go trade for somebody, who would you 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.559 trade for. We were trying to name positions. You need 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.160 a corner, maybe, maybe you need a linebacker. Maybe, you know, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.640 we were naming positions. I think the football gods just 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.600 gave you one here. I think they gave you one, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.439 you know, and sometimes you don't get another chance. We'll 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.560 see out in PACIFICA. Those guys upstairs are really good 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.840 moving money around. You know, they could find ways to 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.640 move money if they get a chance to cruit somebody. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.199 They're good at doing that because they can make deals work. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.040 The player still has it. Watch three games of him 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:12.120 play yesterday. I was looking to see if he lacked movement, balance, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.079 body control, anything to make me go. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:15.960 Away from that. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.319 Now I'm calling some people. My gang is seven around 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.760 the league and trying to get an idea. Why would 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.440 the Colts do this? You know, this is always something 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.199 that you have to worry about. You see the tape. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.120 The tape looks positive. They don't play him in the nickel, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.440 you know, now, Okay, Dallas doesn't play a lot of mickey. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.480 They played dimes, and Dallas has plenty of guys they 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.280 can throw in there at linebacker the nickel. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.240 Yeah, exactly. They throw all those safeties in there and 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:41.679 play that. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.040 So but this guy, he's got length, he's got instincts, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:47.840 he's got the ability to finish. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:48.480 Uh. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.440 You know, there's a lot of really positive things when 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.040 you're talking about a week eleven, week twelve type of 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.840 a player that somebody says, ah, we're moving on. I 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.720 think you've got to be ready to pounds here if 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.520 you can. But the gamble is going to be do 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.480 you want to make that claim because that there's only 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.559 I think Buffalo's ahead of you, that team I brought up, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.119 Chicago's way ahead of you. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.640 You know Chicago wants they probably get it. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.760 Yeah, Chicago, Chicago wants some. But that's because of Eberflus. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.560 Right now, if you're the front office again and you're 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.439 Eber and you're the you're like, I don't want to 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:21.120 spend the money. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.360 Might be like, I don't know if he's going to 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:22.679 be here. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.800 That's that's exactly right, that's exactly right. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.679 Those evaluations are probably. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.480 Going, like you're trying to convince ownership that we're going 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.560 to spend money on a linebacker. Yeah, you know, and 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.439 and you know they and they got rid of roquant Smith, right, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.000 and Roquan Smith is now watched you watch the Ravens 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.480 play and he's getting making every tax because you're like going, Okay, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.800 whose bright idea was to let go of Roquan Smith? Oh, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.600 we just didn't want to pay him. Oh now you 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.080 want to pay this guy. So yeah, there's a lot 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.600 of things going on here, Dallas. Dallas will tell you 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.400 they're always there twenty four to seven, three sixty five, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.199 and I believe them on that, you know, but this 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.720 might be one with the with the with the football gods, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.560 be an opportunity to add a piece that can help. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.040 But we'll see. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.280 There's a there's a lot of other teams that are 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.400 probably thinking the same thing you are right now. But 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.560 this guy could still play. The movement's there, the finishes there, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.240 the lateral agility, the downhill player, the sideline the sideline guy, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.480 the length for the position, and the fact that he could. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.400 I don't I don't think he needs to come off 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.360 the field unless somebody tells me something different. But the 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.920 Colts played him like he was a two down player. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.480 Maybe there's something else going on there. Well, we'll get 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.120 and and maybe the I know, these guys across the 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.079 hall from us hell lots smarter than we are. Right now, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.840 we're just looking at the player and seeing it's an 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.440 opportunity to add a player that at a position that 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.120 they could surely use so. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.480 That you wouldn't have available team. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.440 Like I said, we were we were talking about, Okay, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.320 what positions would you trade? Linebacker was one of them 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.160 everybody and everybody watches on a week to week basis 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.160 and they watch Evans play and they're like, oh, he's 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.319 been Okay, watch bell Man. That guy's playing off his 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.280 app plan out of his ass for being a safety. Yeah, 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.559 you know, but if you add a guy that's been 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.080 kind of an all Pro, all rookie player, that's. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.040 Young, that still has that kind of ability by the way, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.679 to a mix of defensive players that are really good, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.280 you start thinking about adding him to a Michael Parsons 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.000 and Bland and like that's where that would feel. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.400 That would free up Micah to now no longer have 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.160 to be off ball linebacker, which which the other day 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.040 against the Giants, he played five snaps of coverage and 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.960 they had three sacks. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.840 You know, he did what he had to do, right. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.280 He did a fine job of that, he really really did. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.960 But that might if you have someone like Leonard, it 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.720 might make Micah be Okay, now, let's think of full 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.360 time Micah defensive. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.440 End guy, which going into the playoffs. I love that. Yeah, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.079 And a quick. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.680 Bit of housekeeping because I saw that once the decision 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.040 was made by the coach, there were a lot of 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.520 Cowboys Nation who were kind of confused as far as 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.400 how waiver wires work the coast trade deadline and they're saying, well, 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.360 he's a vested veterans, shouldn't he be free agent? 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.199 That stops at the trade deadline. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.160 So tweeted that out. That's a good that's a good 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:00.959 job because you. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.520 Don't want you don't want teams just kind of letting 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.760 guys going in randomly. Now any team, yeah, exactly want 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.080 to make sure they have to go through a waiver. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.000 So that's that's the biggest thing for fans to understand 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.480 is that vested veterans that doesn't matter. After the trade deadline, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.719 everybody is subject to the waiver wire. And as far 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.440 as the waiver wire order, it is now based upon 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.000 the record of that particular week. So the Cowboys, as 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.640 we have this conversation, twenty third in the waiver wire order, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:25.600 so they it's. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.760 A lot of would have to pay. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.040 That's I'm looking at like, I'm like, this is a 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.920 Philly kind of move. You go get a veteran guy 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.839 that nobody else wants to necessarily pay the price of 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.959 their contract, and you could use in the inn this 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.199 scenario where they need help right now with Nikobe Dan. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.520 Yeah, and they're giving you a free They're giving you 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.560 a linebacker that's young, that can play, and you just 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.319 are you willing to Are you. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.079 Willing to pay the six million dollars yes? To get 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:50.959 him more? Absolutely? 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.360 Think we I think we all are are now we're 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:54.280 spending Jerry's money. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.480 But yeah, the guys, the guys that are on the 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.200 practice field right now are thinking like, no, we're pretty 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.360 happy with what we got. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.520 And I and I every time I hear that, I 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.280 want to cry. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.880 You know, but I can respect that from a from 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.240 a camaraderie standpoint. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.640 And I am players. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.200 Right, but anyone who falls knows I'm not one that 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.040 you know. I don't follow the big name. So when 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.560 the big name drops I'm not the person that's always like, ooh, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.600 go get them. I'm often the person that's like, well, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.960 what can they bring, what's going on, what's the money, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.280 what's this, what's the fit? But we're talking about Darius 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.120 Shaquille Leonard. We're talking about a four time All Pro. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.160 Got that that's fair because we were talking about Rokwan Smith. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.240 I slipped go dogs. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.040 But as recently as twenty twenty one, so he's less 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.440 than two full seasons report from being a first team 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.760 All Pro. You've seen what he can do before things 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.920 went awry with him in Indianapolis. I love that Rashaan 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.040 Evans is coming along. I love what Marquise Bell is doing. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.320 I love that de Monk Clarke is taking the next step. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.280 But if you when this kind of player comes available, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.320 and for those that's all with some back issues, I 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.920 will still pay six million dollars for an eighty percent 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.440 Darius Leonard just trying for you in this defense, which 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.720 then allows Michael Parson to drop back down more for 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.560 de gives you not just depth at linebacker, gives you 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.320 a potential star linebacker. In addition to what Marquis Bell 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.840 is doing, Demon Clark and then Rashaun Evans rotating in 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.600 as well. And like you said, this is a very 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.600 Philadelphia Eagles type move, and the Eagles, if the Cowboys 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.760 don't place the claim, you just got to bet money 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.320 that Philadelphia and Howie Roseman will do it. So for 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.000 two reasons you should place the claim. One, you should 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.560 want Rashaun Ivans and the money should not deter you. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.960 Darius Lennond and the money should not deter you. Two, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.960 you don't want him in Philadelphia because you don't want 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.680 to have to face him on December tenth and possibly 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.480 in the playoffs as well. So you got enough reasons 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.640 to say six million dollars will work that out. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.840 The other thing I would love about a move like 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.640 this is I look at veterans like Leonard really good players, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.560 and even if let's assume for a second that there 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.360 is some injury that's kind of debilitating and over time 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.600 he's getting worse, if there is maybe some nerves, right, 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.880 if that is the case, I still think guys like 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.720 that that were so dominant at their position, if they're 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.760 at this point, I would say, on a one year deal, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.520 give them that carrot, which is championship. Do they have 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.000 enough left in the tank for the half of this 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.600 season that's left and the playoffs to give you. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.440 Something that really can be extraordinary. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.160 Yeah, that's why I look at cause for him, he 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.480 might be looking at this is my last real shot 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:31.320 to get a championship realistically before I retire, And so 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.520 can you get that? Can it muster enough for him 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.400 to give you that extra whatever it's gonna take. And 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.480 so for me, I'm like, it's a it's a no 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.480 lose proposition. It's not a long term deal. From the 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.040 standpoint of money, I would look at it as it's 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.400 a one it's a half a season rental and let's 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.240 see what happens and throw the dice. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.280 This is this is an all in kind of move 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:51.520 for me. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.520 Get ready for San Francisco to claim him. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.960 Oh gosh, put him with those linebackers. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.520 That's like sometimes you sit there and you just you're like, 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.720 how did this happen? 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.320 How do we get we get to pull a claim 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.520 in for this guy? Yeah, you know, and you're and now. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.520 You're thinking, if he if he goes to if he 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.360 gets through waivers, and there's people that believe that he might, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.120 I mean, this is going to turn into I think 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.760 that it's you're gonna see which team really wants to 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:18.720 win this the most. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:19.760 You really are. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.359 But you know that's also the thing I personally, I 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.520 would go the route of I want to if I 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.399