Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone who emailed us to let
Speaker 1: us know about some alleged boy meets world of plagiarism
Speaker 1: on a little show. Yeah, so, do either of you
Speaker 1: watch Love is Blind?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, India has become obsessed with Love is Blind,
Speaker 2: which is the yes. It was one of those things
Speaker 2: like yes, we somehow turned on the TV and it
Speaker 2: was like an option. He's like, what's that and we
Speaker 2: were like, oh, it's this crazy show to and he's like,
Speaker 2: load's watch it. He has now devoured a whole season. Well,
Speaker 2: and you know what's so interesting about is that he's
Speaker 2: still like, doesn't he's not one of those kids who
Speaker 2: ever cares about romance like people kissing a movie. And
Speaker 2: he's like, but for whatever reason, Love is Blind is
Speaker 2: like his jam and he just he thinks he's fascinated.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, Okay, we sit and talk
Speaker 2: about like why these people like each other and what
Speaker 2: kind of risk they're taking, and and it's really I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if this is how we're going to talk about romance
Speaker 2: and like talk through stuff, why not I guess sure? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Now Love is Blind? Is that the n one?
Speaker 1: Yes? I think Nick, because there's married at first sight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Love is Blind, Nick, And.
Speaker 3: I've seen most of the seasons.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's it's mostly people just sitting in rooms
Speaker 2: talking and they can't see each other, can't see each other.
Speaker 2: They spend like a month or whatever getting to know
Speaker 2: and then they just like get down on the knee
Speaker 2: and and get engaged. And it's well awkward moments.
Speaker 1: But many a core Penga fans ears perked up this
Speaker 1: season when a contestant, Dave, professed his love to a
Speaker 1: woman he has never seen before. And somehow that's not
Speaker 1: the craziest part of the episode. So the craziest part
Speaker 1: is the connection to our show. So let's play a
Speaker 1: TikTok from user lou Berger Music, who points out the issue.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here watching Love is Blind and this moron,
Speaker 4: Dave just stole a line from Boy Meets World.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, if I.
Speaker 2: Could dream of the perfect woman, oh, she wouldn't even
Speaker 2: come close to you. That is from Boy Meets World.
Speaker 4: When asks to Panga to be I think that's what
Speaker 4: he proposes to her. It's either a proposal or when
Speaker 4: he asked to be his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: That is from Boy Meets World. You did.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: We actually haven't. We haven't seen that line yet on
Speaker 2: the show. Have we haven't said.
Speaker 3: No, not yet I think, But oh god, that's great. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If he just ended with with and I Love you
Speaker 3: and then a Foenie call, uh, that would have been
Speaker 3: the great proposal. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So apparently he was not happy with the amount of
Speaker 1: attention that he got from his first TikTok. He didn't
Speaker 1: think people were taking this seriously enough, so he created
Speaker 1: a song and I'd like to play it for you.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about Dave on?
Speaker 2: Love Is Behind.
Speaker 4: The Mother's Blinding is a reality show for people like
Speaker 4: me who love to make themselves sad twenty to thirty
Speaker 4: something singles blind day and get engaged and act like
Speaker 4: they're the most important thing. And they all get really drunk,
Speaker 4: get experience unique love and say a bunch of natsense. Well,
Speaker 4: this season, with the Magic but Child's Wish, they brought
Speaker 4: a potato to life named Dave and his portance. Lauren
Speaker 4: had to endure his insecurities about his sister an annoying friends,
Speaker 4: and suddenly, without warning, I'm pissed because he stole a
Speaker 4: quote from boy meets world of proposed to her and
Speaker 4: nobody is mad enough about it for my liking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all seen her dream of the perfect woman.
Speaker 2: You can't get away with this. You can't get away
Speaker 2: with this, Dave.
Speaker 4: You can't steal a line by means potato, he.
Speaker 2: Said, that's no, no, he did.
Speaker 3: But if when he meets her, he says.
Speaker 1: Dave, you're a potato. So anyway, I just I wanted
Speaker 1: you guys to know about that the update. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much to everybody who sent that into us. Uh
Speaker 1: and yeah, there there, there we are on love is Blind?
Speaker 2: All right, what do you guys think? Do you think
Speaker 2: that that's conscious plagiarism or do you think he had
Speaker 2: just absorbed that line and actually has no idea where
Speaker 2: it came from in his life and he just.
Speaker 1: Thought it was to say, I think he knows. I
Speaker 1: think if you if you absorb a full quote like that,
Speaker 1: because like if the idea of like you're the most
Speaker 1: perfect woman, you're you're more perfect than and then my imagination,
Speaker 1: could you know, like you would reword it if it
Speaker 1: were just the idea you absorbed, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 3: For word, Dave.
Speaker 1: It's also weird because later he said you had me
Speaker 1: at Hello, and so I know that guy.
Speaker 3: This guy's just ripping off off.
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Speaker 1: today we are here to recap season six, episode seven,
Speaker 1: Everybody Loves Stewart. It originally aired November sixth, nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: The synopsis Corey faces possible expulsion from college when a
Speaker 1: creepy teacher pushes the boundaries with Chipanga. It was directed
Speaker 1: by our very own William Rusty Russ Rusty. It was
Speaker 1: written by Matthew Nelson. And before I jump into our
Speaker 1: guest stars, what did you guys think of this episode?
Speaker 1: What did you did you remember all the details of
Speaker 1: the episode. What did you think?
Speaker 2: What a ROMP just a just a fun let's just
Speaker 2: have some fun, just.
Speaker 1: Like giggle fast mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, it's just the exact opposite of
Speaker 2: a ROMP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very rump.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pronounce romp backwards more. Yeah, it's just yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's really uh heavy handed didac Yeah,
Speaker 2: and kind of painful to watch. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a fan, not a fan. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: what did you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I didn't like. I know it was how to
Speaker 3: Panga just sits there quiet through the whole freaking thing, like,
Speaker 3: never speaks. It's not about her at all, even though
Speaker 3: it's happened to her. I did. Sean is a completely
Speaker 3: different human being. Uh, Sean has changed more than Eric
Speaker 3: has changed in my opinion by this episode. I did
Speaker 3: not get it. I don't know what's happening. I I
Speaker 3: just I didn't get it. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I definitely liked it more than either one of you did,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I did not appreciate how much of
Speaker 1: it felt like it after school special. It definitely was
Speaker 1: like real, you know, those be good though, sure, I
Speaker 1: and I also exactly will you took the words out
Speaker 1: of my mouth? I felt like this thing that happened
Speaker 1: to Tapanga became about how is the man in her
Speaker 1: life going to feel about it? And what's he going
Speaker 1: to do about it? Like Tapega's agency was completely just
Speaker 1: taken away. It was I did not appreciate that at all.
Speaker 1: With that said, the idea that our show is a
Speaker 1: show where you have followed us from the time we
Speaker 1: were little kids until the time we are now in college,
Speaker 1: and the importance of doing an episode about what happens
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, people in positions of power
Speaker 1: take advantage of your trust. I think the the what
Speaker 1: this what the goal of this episode was somewhere is
Speaker 1: so important.
Speaker 2: And kind of ahead of its time in the nuance
Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean? In the in
Speaker 2: the idea that like it's not completely clear.
Speaker 1: Correct, you know, it's just the bad guy's not going
Speaker 1: to be in a trench coat with a hood but
Speaker 1: stalking you. He's gonna present himself as a friend, and
Speaker 1: you may think he's really cool, And even if you
Speaker 1: think he's really cool, that doesn't mean he's actually a
Speaker 1: good guy. And even if you have a good experience
Speaker 1: with him, it doesn't mean he's he's a good guy
Speaker 1: to everyone. Like those things are so important.
Speaker 3: That's something our show often did well because the the
Speaker 3: episode with Arianna Richards where she was getting abused by
Speaker 3: her dad. Her dad was a banker, her dad was
Speaker 3: an upstanding and somebody that everybody likes. So our show
Speaker 3: often did things like this well, Yes, and.
Speaker 1: We personally have experience with it.
Speaker 3: It's so we do.
Speaker 1: It's such a personal it's so it's so important. So
Speaker 1: for me, what I walked away from the episode with
Speaker 1: was like I empathized with the writers who have a
Speaker 1: very good idea to tell a very important message and
Speaker 1: great ambition, Yes, a great ambition, and then you do
Speaker 1: have to find how do we thread this needle? How
Speaker 1: do we get across how important this is without being
Speaker 1: too heavy handed and without trying to seem like we're
Speaker 1: making light of it. They I don't think that goal
Speaker 1: was achieved. I do think they just decided let's lean
Speaker 1: into the melodrama of it. But anyway, I did at
Speaker 1: least walk away from it going just on what we've
Speaker 1: seen so far in the college level of anything really important,
Speaker 1: going on real lesson happening, nothing, nothing's happened. So I
Speaker 1: walked away from the episode going I at least appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I see, let's share an ambitious, good message, even if
Speaker 1: it wasn't handled the best.
Speaker 3: That's what I would say. That's literally what I said.
Speaker 3: I watched it twice and I said that to Sue.
Speaker 3: I said, an important message, not great execution, which is
Speaker 3: which is what I came away. There's a lot, I mean.
Speaker 3: The one time Tapanga opens her mouth, she's told to
Speaker 3: be quiet by the Dean.
Speaker 1: Wait what exactly?
Speaker 3: She never tells her story to anybody that can help,
Speaker 3: literally never once. Corey doesn't even tell his story. It's
Speaker 3: Feeni who takes charge, who wasn't there. The parents are
Speaker 3: that Sean is not on Corey's side. It was strange
Speaker 3: character moment after strange character moment in a very important message.
Speaker 3: The one thing I did love which I think this
Speaker 3: is the start of we're going to see more of
Speaker 3: which I enjoyed just because I remember shooting them was
Speaker 3: all of us together on the couch like we were
Speaker 3: in friends, which I remember having a lot of fun
Speaker 3: doing that and enjoying that dynamic of us just sitting
Speaker 3: there in the student union having some dialogue, sipping on coffee,
Speaker 3: like we felt like adults. So that I liked that
Speaker 3: aspect of it, but a lot of it I was
Speaker 3: just like, what the wait, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean's completely different. To that point, Trina gets the
Speaker 2: best laugh of the episode the way she says it
Speaker 2: with like such honesty.
Speaker 5: And she's truly laughing. She's like it, Yes, it's so
Speaker 5: well delivered. It's like, oh yeah, I love That's a genius.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite moment for her for sure. I also
Speaker 1: did love that even like that it is at the
Speaker 1: end when it's all of us kind of standing around,
Speaker 1: it does even though Sean and Angela are broken up,
Speaker 1: there is still that for some of us as friends,
Speaker 1: like that still that is really nice. Well, to your point,
Speaker 1: all of us being together is really nice, I will say, like,
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily when you think back to that time,
Speaker 1: the nineties, I don't know that women felt as comfortable
Speaker 1: speaking up. I will not agree with you more. No,
Speaker 1: like if you look at the Monica.
Speaker 3: Lewinsky, Oh yeah, no, I'm sure they didn't, and they
Speaker 3: were lambastad when they did a lot of time. It
Speaker 3: is so awful. But I mean, and we'll get into it,
Speaker 3: but I mean she doesn't tell anybody in power to
Speaker 3: the point where when it's already sitting the fan, she
Speaker 3: goes to to Stuart and it's essentially says, unless you
Speaker 3: stop this right now, I'm going to go tell somebody
Speaker 3: like you haven't already said something. And I know it
Speaker 3: was in a safe space at the time, but I
Speaker 3: thought that was an odd way to put it. And
Speaker 3: I know she's like almost like blackmailing him with something else.
Speaker 1: It's so confused why he like, I loved another thing
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved that the paper they're discussing is
Speaker 1: about gray area and about well, when when is it
Speaker 1: crossing the line? When is it not? And so I
Speaker 1: was confused why he then turned it around and was like,
Speaker 1: well you came on to me as opposed to just
Speaker 1: gaslightinger and going I didn't do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about talking about you while you
Speaker 2: were described that he's actually kind of the anti Feenie
Speaker 2: and that he's like teaching you a life lesson through experience.
Speaker 1: So he's like, watch me come on to you exactly.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the episode, he could be like,
Speaker 2: and now you've learned your lesson, right, class dismissed, and
Speaker 2: it would have been like, oh the dark Phoenie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's kind of I had the same thought. I was like,
Speaker 2: is and and it's and that scene is interesting in
Speaker 2: the way that he's playing with like could he be teaching,
Speaker 2: could be just doing you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Fred plays a great I mean he plays
Speaker 3: a great I mean it's so it's so creepy this guy.
Speaker 1: But then later in the student union he's like, you
Speaker 1: came on to me, and I'm like, wait, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a better there's a better argument for this,
Speaker 1: which is I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: If we're discussing your paper.
Speaker 3: The door was open. I asked your roommate to stay, Like,
Speaker 3: what's what's the problem of anything?
Speaker 1: You wanted me to come there? You told me were
Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was a little weird anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and I want to say one of the things,
Speaker 2: like this weird feeling that I had, like taking this
Speaker 2: episode and thinking about the last episode, which is when
Speaker 2: Topanga and Sean kiss and Corey freaks out right, I
Speaker 2: was like, what is going on here?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: There? There's actually a theme building here. And they're very
Speaker 2: different episodes. Obviously, one has played for comedy and one
Speaker 2: has played for this drama, but they're both about Corey's
Speaker 2: anxiety around regulating to pangas sexuality, like regulating her this
Speaker 2: is And it's like they're it's played for comedy in
Speaker 2: one case and played for like an important life lesson
Speaker 2: the other. But in both cases the focus is on
Speaker 2: his sort of trying to get like what right does
Speaker 2: he have to own to pang another singing?
Speaker 1: What are her thoughts? What is it is it that
Speaker 1: you like this guy that I'm going to forge? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 2: How is he going to manage that she might want
Speaker 2: somebody else? And then how is he going to manage
Speaker 2: that somebody else might want her like? And those are
Speaker 2: sort of both questions about like now that we're engaged,
Speaker 2: now that I own her or have her like how
Speaker 2: do I regulate or manage this relationship personally with this?
Speaker 2: And it's like it was right up against this, like
Speaker 2: this notion of female sexuality where it's like the property
Speaker 2: of the man that she's with, like which is like
Speaker 2: you know, legally coverture or like female chattel like this,
Speaker 2: and it's like right up against it where I'm just like,
Speaker 2: what are we saying, Like why is a Corey's responsibility
Speaker 2: to stand up for her? Why is it Corey's responsibility
Speaker 2: to take the fall when he does stand up for her?
Speaker 2: And it was like, clearly, like that's the concern. The
Speaker 2: concern is not how Tapanga feels. It's about how to
Speaker 2: the violation of Tapanga is reflected through current violates Corey's
Speaker 2: rights and Corey's rights to her sexuality or to be
Speaker 2: involved or deciding or I don't know. And it just
Speaker 2: made me so uncomfortable. I was like this, you know,
Speaker 2: like what to the point that you guys are making
Speaker 2: like why isn't she speaking up?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 2: And it's like right, and I get that, like in
Speaker 2: the time that might not have been possible or understandable,
Speaker 2: but taken with last week's episode, it is like there's
Speaker 2: something going on here where it's like that, it's it's
Speaker 2: all about Corey's Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, granted it is Boy meets World, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be through Boy the Boy's POV. But I think had
Speaker 1: there been even a little bit longer of the scene
Speaker 1: between Corey and to Panga, where we at least hear
Speaker 1: Corey say, what do you want to do about this?
Speaker 1: This happened to you? What do you What do you want?
Speaker 1: How can I best support you?
Speaker 2: You can be an advocate for you?
Speaker 1: How can I how can I help you? And by
Speaker 1: the way, this is up to you if you don't
Speaker 1: want to say anything, which he can say I don't
Speaker 1: agree with or whatever, but like, let me support you
Speaker 1: there if you do, how can I be there to
Speaker 1: support you? Whatever this is about you? What do you want?
Speaker 1: Because I thought of that when then and the in
Speaker 1: the scene where he pushes Stuart, I thought, did Tapanga
Speaker 1: say I want you to confront him? Yes, go talk
Speaker 1: to him? I want yes, please do that for me.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't even know whether or not
Speaker 1: to Panga wants this to happen or is expecting him
Speaker 1: to say something like it. Topanga becomes unimportant.
Speaker 3: That's what. Even when the parents come in, they go, oh,
Speaker 3: my god, Corey, do you hit it? Are you okay? Like,
Speaker 3: what tell us what happened to Panga? My god is nothing.
Speaker 3: And there was that one little moment at the end
Speaker 3: where Betsy comes in and puts her shoulder on She's like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're It's something like that. And I'll bet you,
Speaker 3: Betsy that in that conversation where she said I want
Speaker 3: to say something to Tapanga, I will guarantee you that
Speaker 3: was not in the original script.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, it's definitely an interesting episode, all right.
Speaker 1: Guest starring Fred Savage as Stuart, the brother of our
Speaker 1: star Ben Savage. Fred was one of the decades's most
Speaker 1: recognizable young actors of the decade from the hit TV
Speaker 1: show The Wonder Years, where he played Kevin Arnold. He
Speaker 1: also starred in movies like The Princess Bride, Little Monsters,
Speaker 1: and The Wizard. He would later turn his focus to
Speaker 1: directing TV on dozens of sitcoms, including Boy Meets World,
Speaker 1: with two episodes in season seven kicking off his career
Speaker 1: behind the camera, and then Bonnie Bartlett returns as Dean
Speaker 1: Lila Bolander bye.
Speaker 2: She is really really great, great chance in this episode.
Speaker 1: See, she's awesome, really wonderful, even though I can't believe
Speaker 1: she told Tapanga to like shut up.
Speaker 3: Well, so you were about to tell what happened?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was already to open my mouth.
Speaker 1: You know this is not right? All right? So we
Speaker 1: start in the Penbrooke classroom, standing in the back of
Speaker 1: the class to Panga confidently expresses her views and that's
Speaker 1: why I believe a person is responsible for her own
Speaker 1: destiny and can be anything she wants. Once her speech
Speaker 1: is concluded, her teacher, Stuart proudly responds, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: let's hear it for Tepanga. Lawrence, the next president of
Speaker 1: the United States. Corey speaks up above everyone's applause. That
Speaker 1: makes me the first lady. You see how secure I
Speaker 1: am in my sexuality. He turns to the boy sitting
Speaker 1: next to him and gives him a small wave.
Speaker 3: Oh whoa oho, such a Michael read.
Speaker 2: And then he kind of gives him a look like
Speaker 2: he's flirting or something, and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a strange. It was a strange.
Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of a callback to last week's
Speaker 2: because doesn't he say hello when the guy walks in.
Speaker 1: Yes, he does, but I don't like.
Speaker 2: I confront him and yeah, so I think they just
Speaker 2: liked the way he said it. Let's put it in
Speaker 2: here now and then exactly.
Speaker 3: What it was. I'll guarantee you it got a huge laugh.
Speaker 3: They loved it. And so with the I'm this boy,
Speaker 3: I'm that boy, you know, they would we would hit
Speaker 3: a joke one week and then they try to do
Speaker 3: it in another episode, and that's exactly what this was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I okay, it's like it came off of
Speaker 1: the sexuality joke. And then I was confused if that
Speaker 1: if it's somehow connected to that or I don't I
Speaker 1: don't really understand. The professor asks Stapega if she really
Speaker 1: believes in all that little merry sunshine stuff, and she
Speaker 1: doesn't hesitate. Yeah I do, he smiles back, So do I,
Speaker 1: and then he adds to a point. He quickly swivels
Speaker 1: to the other side of the class. Sean. Sean shouts
Speaker 1: back Stuart. The professor points out nice haircut, and then
Speaker 1: the hair, the hair joke, the hair comments and jokes
Speaker 1: for the next several lines, just they keep a coming.
Speaker 1: Sean thanks him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, we've had some hair hair hair change,
Speaker 3: but also some hair changes. Yeah, big on boy meets world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Stuart fires back, it looks like an
Speaker 1: eight dollar haircut, So I guess he didn't really like
Speaker 1: your haircut.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's just showing that he's just ribbing.
Speaker 1: Because he is one of the guys.
Speaker 3: One of the guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He asks Sean, what philosophical belief to panga just spouted,
Speaker 1: and Sewn responds free will. Stuart's impressed, calling him a
Speaker 1: big deal with the new hair. Sewan adds she's in
Speaker 1: charge of her own actions, therefore creates her own destiny.
Speaker 1: Stuart wonders if Seawan agrees with her belief, and Shawn admits,
Speaker 1: in my experience, you don't bet against a panga or
Speaker 1: you'll get your butt kicked.
Speaker 6: Now, a studious intellectual, well, just we cannot be surprised
Speaker 6: because when Sean went to college when he was still
Speaker 6: in high school, he learned about free.
Speaker 1: Will, and.
Speaker 2: What if I had brought up like, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just but Seawan is difft this season. He's just
Speaker 3: I think was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm just I'm sort of non existent as
Speaker 2: a character. You know, like there's no like no recognition
Speaker 2: of the Angela situation or like what I'm doing outside
Speaker 2: of that situation. Yeah, I'm kind of just a sounding
Speaker 2: board in this episode. Yeah yeah, yeah. It's low energy,
Speaker 2: sort of like what is it's anything.
Speaker 1: This season has actually supported the hypothesis that Feene and
Speaker 1: high school was stopping Sean from living his best life,
Speaker 1: because the implication so far seems to be that Sean
Speaker 1: got to college, lived, lived lives with his best friend,
Speaker 1: is thriving in classes, is thriving socially, broke up with Angela.
Speaker 1: It hasn't even mentioned it.
Speaker 2: Just Sean is doing really well off camera. He's stuck
Speaker 2: with this friend group is like to his detriment, and.
Speaker 1: Sean needed off of Boy Meets World.
Speaker 2: If you were the right god, Like this is just
Speaker 2: my body, My soul is way on the other side
Speaker 2: of the town of Ocal.
Speaker 3: You can see it because I know you. You can
Speaker 3: see that you are dead, dead inside it.
Speaker 2: There's no I can tell that I'm not and I
Speaker 2: feel it watching it. I'm sitting there. I remember this
Speaker 2: feeling of like gotta say the thing, gotta get that
Speaker 2: fake energy going through the motions, and you're going it's Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's too bad that there's not you know. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: I think about like when we started this rewatch and
Speaker 2: we hit like goofy, confident, funny Sean in like second season,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, whoa, I forgot that this
Speaker 2: Seawn existed. Now I just want it back so bad,
Speaker 2: and I like, wouldn't it be great if like, and
Speaker 2: I hope this comes because I don't remember, but I
Speaker 2: hope that like Corey and Sean get into some kind of.
Speaker 3: Something to be like, oh, Sean's caring about his friend
Speaker 3: again and actually involved in the storyline, like in a
Speaker 3: real yeah I missed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah to Panga nods and approval at what Sean said.
Speaker 1: The professor turns to Corey. Now, how about it, Romeo,
Speaker 1: you buy what Juliet is saying. Corey nods. I think
Speaker 1: you have to have some control over the things that
Speaker 1: happened to you.
Speaker 2: Stuart surprised Juliet, and Juliet was in the pilot. Man,
Speaker 2: It's like, I know, but it's like, my.
Speaker 3: God, to Panga, Romeo and Julia, it doesn't end.
Speaker 7: It doesn't, Juliet, I know, but there's so much, like
Speaker 7: you know, this is just to establish you know that
Speaker 7: they're married, that they're that everybody knows exactly so committed
Speaker 7: they are, like the real love thing.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what they're doing. They went out
Speaker 3: of their way to show that. You know, Stuart knew
Speaker 3: that Corey and to Pango worked together. Right. That's that's
Speaker 3: what all this is about, is you've got to just
Speaker 3: rapped us up, the scumbag.
Speaker 2: One someone else's woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Stuart surprised, and he gives Corey a hypothetical. Corey Matthews
Speaker 1: wakes up one morning, he kisses his lovely wife, he
Speaker 1: leaves his nice suburban home, and and then he gets
Speaker 1: hit by a bus. Sean blurts out, I'll miss you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Corey isn't phazed. I don't get hit by a bus
Speaker 1: because I used crosswalks. I memorize the bus schedules, and
Speaker 1: if I got a wife like Tapanga, I ain't leaving
Speaker 1: the house. Stuart isn't backing down. Bus hits you anyway.
Speaker 1: He asks the class, what's that called, and Angela answers, fate.
Speaker 1: Your life is predestined and there's nothing you can do
Speaker 1: about it. Corey's worried that bus is going to drive
Speaker 1: right through my house to get to me. Sean shouts
Speaker 1: out again, I'll miss you, buddy. Stuart reveals that most
Speaker 1: of the class's recent papers were pretty bad. He reminds
Speaker 1: them this is in high school anymore, and he encourages
Speaker 1: them to free up their minds. With that, the students
Speaker 1: start to file out. Corey b lines to Sean, this
Speaker 1: guy is awesome. I've been waiting a thousand years for
Speaker 1: a teacher like this. Sean agrees. He's not like Feenie
Speaker 1: at all. He treats us like equals. Feeni was like
Speaker 1: a parent. This guy's like a friend.
Speaker 3: Also, did it bump either of you that there's eight
Speaker 3: bajillion names to pick from? But they took Stuart, as
Speaker 3: in Stuart mankis. I know?
Speaker 1: Why would they do Stuart?
Speaker 3: Why double up on this? And but this is also
Speaker 3: a TV trope. Everybody on Mash is married to someone
Speaker 3: named Louise so or Mildred. There's only two names of
Speaker 3: any women on the entire show, so it's like you
Speaker 3: could have picked anything. Why go Stuart again, I'm just curres.
Speaker 3: I like to know why that is.
Speaker 1: I did not think of it, And it's a very
Speaker 1: valid question.
Speaker 3: I do not know. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of,
Speaker 3: was like why why Stuart?
Speaker 1: Well, then we're in the student union. Stuart is playing
Speaker 1: pool with the gang and Angela makes a shot. She
Speaker 1: tells her professor. He owes her a coffee. Stuart knows
Speaker 1: the drill and asks if anyone else would like one,
Speaker 1: and response Corey to Panga and Sean, I'll take him
Speaker 1: up on his offer. The professor jokes that he only
Speaker 1: has two hands, so he asks Topanga for a little help,
Speaker 1: and she happily agrees.
Speaker 2: The persons city you asked the people around you, Hey,
Speaker 2: you over there, get up and come with me. That's
Speaker 2: all part of the plan.
Speaker 1: And if they could have gotten away with it, this
Speaker 1: would have been.
Speaker 3: Beers of court. Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Did either of you have a teacher like this, either
Speaker 3: in high school or college the teacher were Now that
Speaker 3: you look back at, you're like, wow, that was actually
Speaker 3: super creepy that this guy or girl was showing up
Speaker 3: at parties or hanging out with friends or any like like,
Speaker 3: did you have any of that?
Speaker 1: I did not have any teachers showing up at parties
Speaker 1: or pretending to be our friends. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I didn't have any creepy teachers. I very much had
Speaker 1: a creepy, creepy history teacher who had a reputation for
Speaker 1: putting all of the young girls in the front couple
Speaker 1: of rows and all of the other kids in the
Speaker 1: back rows. And he regularly wore pretty fitted short shorts
Speaker 1: and then would sit on the desks of the girls
Speaker 1: in his class, and it was it was like a
Speaker 1: well known thing that everyone's like, oh, you got that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and it was just like uncomfortable for everyone involved, Like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm stuck with this guy. So yes, those teachers, that
Speaker 1: kind of teacher existed for.
Speaker 2: Me, those bows, that's awful. I a teacher who you know,
Speaker 2: was very seemed very young and cool to all of us,
Speaker 2: but always maintained a level of like authority and was
Speaker 2: a great teacher in the classroom. But he was only
Speaker 2: twenty three, you know, in retrospect, so I think a
Speaker 2: lot of that vibe was actually just a function of
Speaker 2: his age age. But then I found out he ended
Speaker 2: up dating somebody from my grade after she graduated, and
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it because, like you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't around like for that. But that's when I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, maybe maybe he was crossing the lines
Speaker 2: in ways that I just had no idea. Wow, But
Speaker 2: that was only retroactively, Like at the time, he was
Speaker 2: always still very much an adult, do you know, like
Speaker 2: he's different than the other adults, like, but he was
Speaker 2: still very much a good teacher and an adult in
Speaker 2: my life. But yeah, he was like twenty three, twenty four,
Speaker 2: so there was a sense of like, oh, kind he's
Speaker 2: kind of cooler in one of us and talk to
Speaker 2: him about like right, I don't know, so there wasn't
Speaker 2: that vibe.
Speaker 3: And yeah, well there was a guy in our high
Speaker 3: school that we always thought he'd always, like every year
Speaker 3: be very close with one or two of the younger girls.
Speaker 3: So there was always rumors that it's like that, is
Speaker 3: that inappropriate?
Speaker 2: Is that weird?
Speaker 3: And then like ten or fifteen years later, he was
Speaker 3: fired for that exact thing where wow, they proved that
Speaker 3: something had happened and he was out made the papers
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, creepy.
Speaker 1: Once out of earshot, he thinks Toapega for taking his
Speaker 1: class and challenging things. He admits a teacher likes a
Speaker 1: student who participates and shakes things up. It makes class
Speaker 1: more exciting. Topeka, surprised and earnestly thanks him for the compliment.
Speaker 1: Stuart orders the five coffees and then says to Tapanga,
Speaker 1: if we don't challenge our leaders, we have no right
Speaker 1: to complain over how they lead. Topega recognizes that that
Speaker 1: is a quote from her paper. He tells her it
Speaker 1: was a good paper besides the area where she got
Speaker 1: a little lazy with the summary. But they'll go over it.
Speaker 1: He asked, well, can's the paper about?
Speaker 2: Why is it about out discussing late? Right?
Speaker 3: But is it about free will? Or then what does
Speaker 3: that have to do with leaders? Is that so it's
Speaker 3: about ethics? Is what the papers supposed to be about.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's ethics with people who are in positions of power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Because I was like, wait, is it about
Speaker 3: free will or is it about being It's like and
Speaker 3: that's why it made no sense when he brought the
Speaker 3: cat at the end, like, wait, what is this paper about.
Speaker 2: Whatever it needs to be about for the lines, I'm
Speaker 2: just curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he asks how campus life is going into Penga
Speaker 1: shrugs Angela and I are in Mackay so small rooms,
Speaker 1: lousy food. He sarcastically responds, welcome to college. As they
Speaker 1: leave with the coffees, Dean Bolander and mister Feenie walk
Speaker 1: by and say hello. Now at the counter, the Dean
Speaker 1: asks George what he'd like, but Feenie insists it's on him.
Speaker 1: He reminds her he's the new teacher on campus. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be professional to accept a drink from his boss.
Speaker 3: And you see Matt in the background. Matt is just sitting.
Speaker 3: Matt's on the couch in the background, waiting for the
Speaker 3: next scene to start, and at times he's just watching
Speaker 3: the scene. You just watch.
Speaker 2: He's watching the show. He's just watching the show take place.
Speaker 3: He's like watching for a little while, and then he
Speaker 3: turns and then he's like kind of watching a little thing,
Speaker 3: like all right, yeah, MAT's just watching the show like
Speaker 3: everybody else.
Speaker 1: The Dan asks again what he would like to drink,
Speaker 1: and Phoene swiftly answers double blended, non fat, no whip frappuccino.
Speaker 1: Phoenie shrugs, I usually take care of myself. She encourages
Speaker 1: him to relax, and he takes a deep breath in response.
Speaker 1: Now more relaxed, Phoene speaks up, Do you think I
Speaker 1: could have a biscatti too? She shoots him a look,
Speaker 1: I'm not rich, Phoene other So.
Speaker 3: I want to watch this show.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I want to watch Phoenie and Bolander have a show
Speaker 3: that their age group. You you focus it towards like
Speaker 3: the same kind of Golden Girls era kind of people.
Speaker 3: And that's a television show. I would watch.
Speaker 2: Everytally watching them try and figure out youth culture and
Speaker 2: like them, but like not understand them. That's a great ideas,
Speaker 2: been so great.
Speaker 3: And then dating and what's dating that age like? And
Speaker 3: what is that a tale? And the first time they
Speaker 3: have to hook up, Oh my god, there's so much
Speaker 3: to mind there. That would have just been incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Eric is sitting with Corey and his friends looking
Speaker 1: in Stuart's direction. I don't like him. Corey says he
Speaker 1: doesn't even know him, but Eric argues, I'm telling you something.
Speaker 1: I have a gift. I know people. Then he notices
Speaker 1: a girl in the distance from behind and shouts, hello, Wow,
Speaker 1: how would you like to come home to that every day?
Speaker 3: It's such a weird joke to forget the even just
Speaker 3: the creepy part. It's just a weird joke that it's
Speaker 3: clearly her. She's five feet away.
Speaker 1: She's also seven feet tall.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get what they're going with, but it's
Speaker 3: just a weird joke that was kind of like, why
Speaker 3: that joke?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I also am I get that they I'm a little
Speaker 1: confused about. I love that Eric has this perception and
Speaker 1: that he picks up on it, but how does it
Speaker 1: what's the benefit of it in the storyline that Eric
Speaker 1: also didn't like him or have a good feeling about him.
Speaker 1: That to Pega's not making it up. I don't know
Speaker 1: what is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's a plant the
Speaker 2: seed because so much of this episode is about arriving
Speaker 2: at a moral conclusion like right, and and an order
Speaker 2: like in order to make that conclusion like correct. So
Speaker 2: there's no doubt at the end that Stewart is an
Speaker 2: awful person who has done a bad thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It's like they wanted to also represent the possibility of ambiguity, right.
Speaker 2: They wanted it to be like people that take advantage
Speaker 2: of situations like this are often the friendly one, you know,
Speaker 2: and so you kind of can't have it both ways,
Speaker 2: especially on a kid's show. It's like you can't have
Speaker 2: it be crystal clear that this person's bad and also
Speaker 2: so you so if you you know, if you notice,
Speaker 2: by the end of the episode, everybody's like literally on
Speaker 2: one side of the room against Stuart. It's like everyone
Speaker 2: that we know, our family, like our who we identify with,
Speaker 2: has is able to see this guy for what he is,
Speaker 2: but the rest of the world might not. And it's
Speaker 2: like the whole episode is about everybody coming to that
Speaker 2: conclusion and reaching it with absolute certainty and inviting the
Speaker 2: reader or the watcher into that certainty, but then leaving
Speaker 2: the window open that like, and we have to be
Speaker 2: careful because arriving at this certainty could be difficult sometimes,
Speaker 2: and so like you have to plant that seed with
Speaker 2: somebody like Eric, who even though he's the dumb one
Speaker 2: or he never can see things, he kind of instinctually knows.
Speaker 2: And it's it's like an interesting you know, it's.
Speaker 3: I had a weird realization during this episode. Eric is
Speaker 3: a dog, meaning he's got a great heart.
Speaker 1: He's a golden retriever.
Speaker 3: They always say like if you have a dog, if
Speaker 3: a dog doesn't like somebody, you trust that and I
Speaker 3: swear to god. Eric is like he's got the long
Speaker 3: shaggy hair, and.
Speaker 2: You are a golden retriever.
Speaker 1: Retriever. You're smart, you're superfl You're loyal as hell, good.
Speaker 3: Heart, really loyal intuition.
Speaker 1: Swim yes, shut on the grass.
Speaker 2: It might hump your leg.
Speaker 8: I might have, you know, but well intentioned.
Speaker 1: But you have to tell him that it's not the
Speaker 1: right place.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Eric, is it really is that? I wonder, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so cool. I I am this weird. I'm having
Speaker 2: this really hard time with Like the way that Eric's
Speaker 2: comedy is responded to by the other characters is getting
Speaker 2: really boring to me. In this episode, it's twice that
Speaker 2: people go unbelievable, You're just, You're just and it's like
Speaker 2: that beat that sort of is I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: it's like it's.
Speaker 1: The opposite of yes and shut up.
Speaker 8: But I was thinking about a relationship to like cringe
Speaker 8: comedy or like because I think, like what now, what
Speaker 8: an Eric type character would be, you know in later
Speaker 8: comedies is like zach alifan Akis in.
Speaker 2: The hangover or somebody who like says the like crazy
Speaker 2: inappropriate thing that you're just like, what what? And in
Speaker 2: cringe comedy that's played for like discomfort and like everybody
Speaker 2: being like we don't know what to do with this
Speaker 2: like awkward energy or whatever. And in our show it's
Speaker 2: like this explosive awkwardness and out of touch and then
Speaker 2: we have to like cap it down and like immediately
Speaker 2: be like that's not right and shame it. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: stop shaming it, Like I don't care. We don't need
Speaker 2: to contextualize it. Let's just let him be crazy. And
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that we.
Speaker 3: Lose that as at least because when the dog gets
Speaker 3: too yuppy, you've got to sit there and tell.
Speaker 1: Me its crazy place.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Jack cringes, we do come home to that.
Speaker 1: It's Rachel, you unbelievable, incredible buffoon. Eric goes back to
Speaker 1: his original point. He has a feel for these things,
Speaker 1: and Stewart is no feene. He couldn't even clap Peoenie's erasers.
Speaker 1: Then Eric ye over with the Phoene call fne Yo
Speaker 1: having coffee with the Dean whoa fanny. He shrivels in
Speaker 1: his chair and Dean Bolander gives a little wave. Sean
Speaker 1: tells Eric, sooner or later, you're gonna have to cut
Speaker 1: this chord from Phoenie and see what else is out there.
Speaker 1: Eric isn't hearing it. If there's one thing I know,
Speaker 1: it's people I've lived among them. It's my fifth sense.
Speaker 1: Jack corrects him, you mean your sixth sense. Eric responds, no,
Speaker 1: that's smell. You gotta be real lucky to get that,
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 3: So cute, strange, And you notice you're trying not to
Speaker 3: laugh as you and I are speaking. This is right now,
Speaker 3: writer peak us can't be in the same scene.
Speaker 1: You guys cannot. I thought of it when it was happening.
Speaker 1: I was like this, There are reasons why you guys
Speaker 1: thought we can't work together, and this is one of them.
Speaker 3: And it seems like this.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Eric reiterates this. Stanley guy Jack correcshim Stuart. Eric adjusts Stuart,
Speaker 1: he's bad news. You trust me. We see Tapega now
Speaker 1: playing pool alongside Stuart, and everything seems fine from here.
Speaker 3: Little camera move there.
Speaker 2: Notice that we all, we all become the camera.
Speaker 3: We turned towards the back and the camera follow clever, rusty, clever.
Speaker 1: Will's picking up on it.
Speaker 3: Now, I get it.
Speaker 1: Then we're into Panga and Angela's dorm. The girls are
Speaker 1: hanging out and there's a knock at the door. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to know something that's stupid. That really bothered me.
Speaker 1: Angela is sitting on the bed and she is painting
Speaker 1: her nails, and she has her purse on her shoulder,
Speaker 1: just ready to just ready to go. Just why why
Speaker 1: she's she's painting her nails? She is not I know that.
Speaker 1: Later to Penga says, we were getting ready to go
Speaker 1: to the dorm, and I guess the argument could be,
Speaker 1: once your nails are wet, you don't want to have
Speaker 1: to put your arm through the sleeve. But the minute
Speaker 1: the shot was on her, I was like, why, where,
Speaker 1: where's where's she going? Why is her purse on her shoulder?
Speaker 1: Why she's sitting on the bed painting her nails? Drove
Speaker 1: me nuts?
Speaker 3: Got a wax.
Speaker 2: I know it's a TV show, it's a rough everything.
Speaker 1: You're right, I did take it too far with that one.
Speaker 1: There's a knock at the door. It's Stuart. They are
Speaker 1: surprised to see him. He notices one of his students
Speaker 1: in the hallway, Hansen, you owe me a paper. I
Speaker 1: don't believe in grades, but i'll flunk your butt to
Speaker 1: paying an. Angela laugh as Stuart enters to Panga. I
Speaker 1: was in the neighborhood and we talked about going over
Speaker 1: your paper.
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm in the neighbor this guy's shady.
Speaker 1: Stuart tells Angela, I don't have your paper, but we
Speaker 1: can discuss what I remember. Tapanga explains they were actually
Speaker 1: about to head to the student union. She tells Angela
Speaker 1: to go ahead without her and she'll meet her there.
Speaker 1: On her way out, Angela jokingly comments, you two leave
Speaker 1: the door open. Both of them laugh it off, which
Speaker 1: is weird. I don't know why this joke was made.
Speaker 2: I think to make it clear that the door is
Speaker 2: left open. But yes, that was never Yeah, but it's
Speaker 2: it is like we're that Angela would even make the joke,
Speaker 2: Is it right?
Speaker 1: Because then it implies that, like, you guys want to
Speaker 1: put potential.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of weird.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, is this okay? Are teachers actually allowed
Speaker 3: to date their students in college?
Speaker 2: Well, it's actually I mean, I think it varies somewhat
Speaker 2: from school to school, but like I know that, Like
Speaker 2: in my faculty handbook it's you you cannot have a
Speaker 2: relationship with a student that you are teaching or that
Speaker 2: you're in a supervisory role of any sort, And then
Speaker 2: relationships with students in general are just kind of discouraged,
Speaker 2: like because there's the potential. It's like it's spelled out, like,
Speaker 2: but the only real prohibition, like that's an actual rule
Speaker 2: is like if you're in a supervisory role or you're
Speaker 2: in there or you're teaching their class, them in class,
Speaker 2: there can be no relationship.
Speaker 1: What about if you what about if they have an
Speaker 1: end up in the future in your class?
Speaker 5: That is it.
Speaker 1: Then if you're in a relationship with somebody, then you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that person's teacher and you shouldn't try to
Speaker 1: take that person's class. That part I actually don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's what's interesting is like sure, this semester, he's
Speaker 1: not my teacher, but next year he could be.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's why there's the overall like discouraged,
Speaker 2: Like we can't prevents from doing it, but you need
Speaker 2: to you have the responsibility as a teacher. You have
Speaker 2: to know that we discouraged this. This is not what
Speaker 2: we you know, So I think if there was ever
Speaker 2: a complaint, it's being on the faculty, and that is
Speaker 2: to be like, okay, you know, we we cross the
Speaker 2: line here, but definitely you cross the line if if somebody,
Speaker 2: if you're in a class together, there's any sort of
Speaker 2: actual power over one another, but there is a general
Speaker 2: power dynamic that is like, just avoid this at all costs. Basical.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good to know. It's nice to have a
Speaker 1: professor on the pod. Thak you for our questions. Thank you,
Speaker 1: professor writer. Well now alone. Stuart points to a picture
Speaker 1: on Tapanga's desk and asks if it's her mom. She
Speaker 1: says it is. The photo was taken at Martha's vineyard.
Speaker 3: He admits, no, no, sorry to Panga and Jedediah and
Speaker 3: Chloe are not going and hanging out in Martha's vineyard.
Speaker 1: This is another one where the family will. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've noticed, but Tapanga is no longer the
Speaker 1: Topanga of nineteen.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Topanga's different, Sean's different, Eric's different. Corey
Speaker 3: is the only one that's basically kind of the same
Speaker 3: character now than he used to be I mean, entirely
Speaker 3: different than Chloe and Jedediah and Topanga are hanging out
Speaker 3: in Martha's Vineyard. No way making Woodstock, New York exactly
Speaker 3: same thing. Make it Wouldstock, Prescott, Arizona, make it anywhere
Speaker 3: slightly hippyish, but they make it the most highbrow like
Speaker 3: Martha's Vineyard. Really, I was amazed. I was amazed by that.
Speaker 2: Here we are in the Hamptons, right right.
Speaker 1: It's like our annual summer trip to the Hampton.
Speaker 3: Seriously, your dad was one of the monkeys, and then
Speaker 3: was his final tap and then was the other guy,
Speaker 3: and it's like, come on.
Speaker 1: He admits she's real pretty. Topanga thanks him. Then Stuart
Speaker 1: tells Tapanga to sit down. Topega gets comfy on Angela's
Speaker 1: bed and Stuart explains this paper was too good to
Speaker 1: fizzle out on the conclusion you're too smart for that.
Speaker 1: He begins to read a section aloud. It's possible to
Speaker 1: cross the line morally and yet not cross the line.
Speaker 1: Actually it's too vague. He doesn't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1: T Pega explains, well, the paper was on morality and ethics,
Speaker 1: and I was just saying there are definite gray areas.
Speaker 1: Stuart jokes, I know what the paper was about because
Speaker 1: I assigned it. He sits next to her on the
Speaker 1: bed and encourages her to be more specific, because the
Speaker 1: devil's in the details. He asks, I'm sitting here with you, right,
Speaker 1: I'm your teacher and I find you attractive. But we're
Speaker 1: talking about the assignment. Now, have we crossed the line?
Speaker 1: To Penga stays calm, considering his newest statement, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she shakes her head. I don't think so. No, So
Speaker 1: Stuart takes it a step further. I'm your teacher and
Speaker 1: I find you attractive, and now we're not talking about
Speaker 1: the paper. Have we crossed the line? To peg is confused?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Stuart scoots closer to her and grabs her hand, which
Speaker 1: is resting in her lap. What if I said to
Speaker 1: you that I think about you and I'd like to
Speaker 1: see you more than just on Tuesdays and Thursdays. To
Speaker 1: Pega's in shock, Stewart asks, see where it gets gray?
Speaker 1: He gets quiet. He quickly stands up and directs his
Speaker 1: attention back to the picture on her desk. When did
Speaker 1: you go to the vineyard, she nervously says, two summers ago,
Speaker 1: and he asks beautiful, isn't it. He gives to Panga
Speaker 1: one more example. We're adults, and I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: i'd like to get to know you better. He sits
Speaker 1: back down on the bed and moves a piece of
Speaker 1: her hair behind her ear. And that's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: Weird, cree creepy.
Speaker 1: Tapanga admits, you're making me uncomfortable. I want you to leave.
Speaker 1: He shakes his head. That's not what you want. Oh,
Speaker 1: She's flabberg asked. What just then Corey knocks on the
Speaker 1: door and enters. He jokingly admits if I wasn't such
Speaker 1: a trusting boyfriend, this would look bad. Panga looks very
Speaker 1: worried as Corey asks, how come you don't make house
Speaker 1: calls on me? Stuart. He stands up and playfully ruffles
Speaker 1: Topanga's hair. Be cuz I'm talking to the brains of
Speaker 1: the family, He declares, I'm going to leave you two alone,
Speaker 1: and he assures Topanga they'll finish this later. Corey watches
Speaker 1: him leave with admiration. Oh hey, you gotta love that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Feeni wouldn't be caught dead in a dorm room.
Speaker 1: Sean's right about this. Guy. He's in a whole other league.
Speaker 1: Tepeg is still in shock. She tells Corey that she
Speaker 1: didn't like him being there. She didn't like it at all.
Speaker 1: Corey notices her demeanor and asks if she's okay.
Speaker 3: And from this moment on, it's no longer about Tapanga.
Speaker 1: Nope, that's it.
Speaker 3: That's why I think I was so thrown by this episode,
Speaker 3: because they've completely set it up. This is going to
Speaker 3: be a Tapanga storyline. Tapanga's going to deal with this,
Speaker 3: She's going to deal with it to help her friends.
Speaker 3: She's going to find the strength she's gonna but and
Speaker 3: then it's no longer about to Pega.
Speaker 2: From this second Corey walks in.
Speaker 3: It is now Corey's taken over the story, and it's
Speaker 3: about how he's gonna deal with what happened to Tapanga.
Speaker 3: And I thought that they should have stayed with the
Speaker 3: Tapanga storyline, which to me is much more interesting.
Speaker 1: Totally. Then we are back in the student union. Rachel's laughing.
Speaker 1: You take your middle name and you put it with
Speaker 1: the street that you live on. Jack asks, and that's
Speaker 1: your I thought we were going somewhere else.
Speaker 2: The soap opera name is your middle name and the
Speaker 2: street you grew up on, which is I think what
Speaker 2: we do in this, right, that's that's what we say.
Speaker 3: Actually, it's kind of great because then it's such a
Speaker 3: soap opera name. Mine would be Alan Redrock King Barnett, Marstine.
Speaker 1: Via del Taklot. Yes, it does work. My gosh, that's
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 3: That's great, okay, And this is where we get another
Speaker 3: middle name for Eric, Yes, Randall, because we have we
Speaker 3: said Neil before. But then she's like, that's not your
Speaker 3: middle name.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know either, Yeah, they can't. This is I
Speaker 3: think that this is the second or third time we've
Speaker 3: heard a middle name of Eric. Now, so I thought
Speaker 3: it was Eric. I say at one point, my name
Speaker 3: is Eric Neil Matthews. And then yeah, Betsy says, that's
Speaker 3: your your middle name. But then maybe we don't ever
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe maybe she was thinking it was Randall.
Speaker 3: Randall, Eric, Randall Matthews.
Speaker 1: She nods, mine's Kimberly Beaumont. Eric chimes in with a
Speaker 1: smolder Jonathan Cumberland jack Burst's bubble. Eric, your middle name
Speaker 1: is Randal, he tries again, Tony Randall. The odd couple
Speaker 1: Jack asks if he ever listens to the rules, so
Speaker 1: Eric corrects himself, who is Tony Randall? Jack sarcastically answers, right,
Speaker 1: you win. Eric giggles always win.
Speaker 3: Huh, I always win.
Speaker 1: Then Corey spots Stuart over by the pool tables and
Speaker 1: right up to him. The professor greets him with a smile. Hey, Romeo.
Speaker 1: Corey wonders if they can talk on the patio for
Speaker 1: a second. As Corey leads him outside, Stuart comments, your
Speaker 1: paper was pedestrian. This isn't high school anymore. You gotta
Speaker 1: take chances. Corey cuts him off, We're not talking about
Speaker 1: the paper. Stuart's surprised, so Corey flatly tells him Tapank
Speaker 1: is real uncomfortable about your dorm visit. Stuart wonders why,
Speaker 1: and Corey scoffs she thought you were hitting on her,
Speaker 1: So Stuart lets out a little laugh and asks, what
Speaker 1: if I was. Corey can't believe what he just heard.
Speaker 3: Do you hear the audience, by the way, throughout this
Speaker 3: entire episode, Yes, the second he puts his hand near
Speaker 3: you on the bed or anything stuff, the audience is
Speaker 3: going or oh, I'm ne'er there. The entire time for
Speaker 3: this yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So Corey repeats it back in shock what
Speaker 1: if I was? And then from inside the student union,
Speaker 1: Sean tells everyone his soap opera name Patrick Trailer Park,
Speaker 1: which gets a rowdy laugh. Angela offers hers se Nae
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Boulevard. No one laughs at that one,
Speaker 1: so Angela laughs to herself, gosh, I gotta get some
Speaker 1: black friends. The best joke of the whole show, and
Speaker 1: maybe the last laugh of this direct correct, actually no
Speaker 1: will coming into the court room.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: So do I mean, do you guys remember this week
Speaker 2: like the whole sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember. I remember the discussion being very detailed
Speaker 1: in the original script. Corey dex in the face right in.
Speaker 3: The student union, right like.
Speaker 1: I think it was always outside.
Speaker 3: It was always I thought, Okay, I didn't know if
Speaker 3: it was off camera or we actually saw Corey like
Speaker 3: in the background punch the teacher in the face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they Ben felt very strongly as an
Speaker 1: actor that Corey would never punch anyone, and he felt
Speaker 1: comfortable enough good for him to say something and he Yeah.
Speaker 2: The reason it kind of became a big deal is
Speaker 2: that surprisingly TV Guide was there that week.
Speaker 3: Ben, we're working together, and so TV Guide was there.
Speaker 3: This is the first time TV Guide had ever been
Speaker 3: on our set and the whole week.
Speaker 1: Were they there one day?
Speaker 2: I don't remember, probably more than one day, because I
Speaker 2: remember the the resulting article had interviews with people, you know,
Speaker 2: outside of having been there that one day. I think so,
Speaker 2: or maybe they just did follow calls. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it was a really interesting because I remember thinking
Speaker 2: it was very unfair the way that TV Guide portrayed Ben,
Speaker 2: because the point of the article was kind of can
Speaker 2: you believe that a child actor, which is ridiculous considering
Speaker 2: he's eighteen I think at this point is pushing back
Speaker 2: against his writing staff or you know what. And and
Speaker 2: what was great about the article to me was that
Speaker 2: they interviewed Michael and Michael was like, Ben has every
Speaker 2: right to do this, like this is our process and
Speaker 2: like he Michael was like, no, it's okay, you know,
Speaker 2: we disagree, and we because they did. They disagreed, and
Speaker 2: that was the thing. We all a note session had
Speaker 2: this out like for I remember, like an hour of discussion. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was like who's going to give and like,
Speaker 2: because Michael was insistent that Corey would be upset enough
Speaker 2: to punch this teacher, and and and Ben was like,
Speaker 2: I know Corey, and I feel like I have a
Speaker 2: right to speak for this character. And Corey would never
Speaker 2: hit somebody, you know, in this context. And that was
Speaker 2: you know, it's a debate, and it was kind of like,
Speaker 2: how does the storyline exist without that right? Which is tricky,
Speaker 2: and so this the compromise that we ended up with
Speaker 2: is this push and then they still refer to it
Speaker 2: as a hit, correct, but it's never a punch.
Speaker 1: It's never a punch, which is to me, does make
Speaker 1: it very weird later when it's you hit a teacher
Speaker 1: and I hit a teacher and the bylaws are about
Speaker 1: hitting a teacher, and it's like, but that not much happened.
Speaker 1: And then also, I mean I haven't gotten to it
Speaker 1: yet in the recap, we're about ready to get there.
Speaker 1: But the way that Stuart leans into Cory right before too,
Speaker 1: he touches Corey, and whether Jensen and I talked about it,
Speaker 1: and Jensen is convinced he's touching him like like Corey,
Speaker 1: don't worry, like in some sort of in a calm
Speaker 1: down or like play cating sense from what I felt
Speaker 1: like it looked to me like he pushed Corey, and
Speaker 1: the fact that the last thing we see Stuart say
Speaker 1: is what if I was? And then Corey says back,
Speaker 1: what if I was? To me, that's on a tense note,
Speaker 1: the idea that it's anything other than Stuart escalating it
Speaker 1: by like hey, man, get away from me or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it felt it felt like
Speaker 1: an odd choice for there to be any contact between
Speaker 1: the two of them before it's Corey just shoving him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the big cheat is that we don't see the
Speaker 2: scene right right, We don't hear it, know what was
Speaker 2: actually said, we don't know why. And I was thinking
Speaker 2: about this relationship to the use of violence against mister
Speaker 2: mac where Alan pushes him, and it was clearly written
Speaker 2: to justify Alan. It was clearly written to say we're
Speaker 2: on his side, it's okay that he did this. And
Speaker 2: the choice here to not see the specific dialogue, to
Speaker 2: not see the ramp up to it, is really interesting
Speaker 2: because it implies I guess, on one hand, it was
Speaker 2: a choice to leave it somewhat ambiguous, so you weren't
Speaker 2: just immediately on corey side, because otherwise, why we have
Speaker 2: to watch the rest of the episode to learn. But also,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like anybody is ever not on Corey's
Speaker 2: side for the rest of the episode because we are
Speaker 2: all sort of like he had the right. He did
Speaker 2: violate the policy, but he was in the right to
Speaker 2: have right this guy Like that's sort of the double
Speaker 2: standard ish like weird sandwich that our show is doing,
Speaker 2: and by not showing the scene, the audience is sort
Speaker 2: of left to assume that the.
Speaker 1: Great justify it.
Speaker 3: That's the gray area that the paper was about, was
Speaker 3: that that the ethical gray area. Is it okay to
Speaker 3: you know? Is violence ever okay? In The answer to that,
Speaker 3: of course is sometimes yes, sometimes it's necessary.
Speaker 1: But we didn't I think writer would disagree with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would. You don't think you don't think violence is.
Speaker 1: Every I was gonna say, I think this is really
Speaker 1: interesting because I do think Will is like, if somebody
Speaker 1: were to do something to Sue, we'll be like, sorry,
Speaker 1: the only one to kill you. I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and justified to do it right.
Speaker 2: And I think that when you're creating fictional universes, right,
Speaker 2: in a fictional situation, it's beholden on you to represent
Speaker 2: that situation, and then you know you're creating everything, right,
Speaker 2: You're creating the whole situation, You're putting these people in position.
Speaker 2: And that's like, was my problem with the Alan mister
Speaker 2: Mac thing, is like you could easily create a situation
Speaker 2: where mister Mac pushes him and you know, and justify it.
Speaker 2: And and so I just sort of roll my eyes
Speaker 2: at situations where violence is, you know, fictionally created in
Speaker 2: order to showcase somebody's heroism in the willing to go
Speaker 2: to violence, and I just find that to be easy
Speaker 2: to manipulate. And so in this case, it's really interesting
Speaker 2: that we don't see what actually triggers Corey to do
Speaker 2: the thing. And I don't know, like I don't I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it was a good choice or bad choice,
Speaker 2: but it's clearly a choice, right, as opposed to the
Speaker 2: mister Max situation where you see Alan inspired to violence
Speaker 2: and we are supposed to be like, yeah, do it, man,
Speaker 2: that's a bad person and you are a good guy.
Speaker 2: And in this case we have the space this absence
Speaker 2: of what explanation, and then we spend the rest of
Speaker 2: the episode saying, well, Corey has to have been in
Speaker 2: the right because it's Corey, but we don't need to
Speaker 2: see the actual justification. It's I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 2: quite like like, I don't have all like my opinions
Speaker 2: about it. I just found it fascinating. And then there's
Speaker 2: another absence later, which is when Stewart talks to Maitland.
Speaker 2: We don't hear what he says that, Yes, these two
Speaker 2: absences that like actually trigger like the next beats or
Speaker 2: the way the characters are interact, and it's like, by
Speaker 2: not seeing them, I'm just it was clearly a choice,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure what exactly that choice was, or
Speaker 2: why if it had to be that way or what,
Speaker 2: but it's it's something I'm thinking about. I'm really interesting,
Speaker 2: and this one seems like a big one.
Speaker 3: He does say it, well, he well, he does say
Speaker 3: during the thing what he says to him, But what
Speaker 3: what that that triggered him to put I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: not the exact trigger, Corey, Corey, he says to him.
Speaker 3: He says, not only does he say to me that yes,
Speaker 3: he was hitting on her, but he said he was
Speaker 3: never going to stop, and so he Corey actually says it.
Speaker 2: So so Stuart apparently said.
Speaker 3: To him, yeah, I was hitting on her, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna keep on hitting on her every day until she
Speaker 3: ends up in my bed and blah blah blah. And
Speaker 3: so that's that was the at least they alluded to.
Speaker 3: That says, yeah, he told me he was never going
Speaker 3: to stop, and it's like, yeah, then he shoved them
Speaker 3: through a glass window.
Speaker 2: Right well.
Speaker 1: Rachel asks Tapanga what her middle name is, but Tapega
Speaker 1: says she doesn't want to play. She's fixated on Corey
Speaker 1: and Stewart getting animated outside. Jack wonders why she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to play, and to Panga makes an excuse, I
Speaker 1: have a weird middle name. Jack isn't buying it. Your
Speaker 1: first name's to Panga, could what could your middle name be?
Speaker 2: Jackson wanted to say it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh, and Maitland has apparently now met everybody.
Speaker 3: Rachel knows everybody because you never met anybody before, and
Speaker 3: now she's now she's in one.
Speaker 1: Of the this is the first time, you're right.
Speaker 3: Well, she met everybody when we shot opening title sequences
Speaker 3: exactly and now here yea.
Speaker 1: In the background, we see Stuart reach for Corey and
Speaker 1: Corey aggressively shoves him, sending Stuart right through the door
Speaker 1: and straight to the ground.
Speaker 3: Good by the way, I know, I mean that was
Speaker 3: that was a violent shove. The camera angle. You really
Speaker 3: see him fly, you see him land. I mean that was.
Speaker 3: That was a good stunt.
Speaker 1: Everyone jumps up from the crash, shocked to see what's happened.
Speaker 1: Stuart brushes himself off and says, congratulations, you just got
Speaker 1: yourself kicked out of college. No one knows what to do.
Speaker 2: What would you do?
Speaker 3: It? Different? Shop different.
Speaker 1: We're in Corey and Shawn's dorm to Panga, Sean and
Speaker 1: Angela watch a worried Corey pace. Sean asks, how could
Speaker 1: you do this to Stuart?
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, Sean, is is not on Corey's side?
Speaker 3: Just blindly and automatically, of course he would be that Sean.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it wouldn't matter what he did. It's like, hey,
Speaker 3: I shot the teacher, Like yeah, he had every right to.
Speaker 3: What do you do? I don't know, but Corey did
Speaker 3: it so, I mean the same way. He's like, I
Speaker 3: would never root against a panga. He's how could you
Speaker 3: do that to Stuart?
Speaker 1: Sean says, this it's so weird.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think now that now that you're saying this,
Speaker 2: the story Shawn's storyline. Shawn's arc in this episode is
Speaker 2: that he is like just all about Stuart, like he
Speaker 2: is completely I mean.
Speaker 1: Stuart might as well be mister Mack's.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I guess actually, I don't know how
Speaker 2: much of that is is maybe in my performance, but
Speaker 2: or maybe it could have been written to a little
Speaker 2: bit more to imply that, like from the beginning, like
Speaker 2: like when when Stuart leaves the class, you just see
Speaker 2: Sean like following him out and Corey being like Sewn Sean,
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know, like then it would have been
Speaker 2: like Shawn has gone astray. Yes, but yeah, I would
Speaker 2: have maybe it could have been a little bit stronger
Speaker 2: because now I'm realizing because then he the point of
Speaker 2: the courtroom scene is that Sean finds himself having to
Speaker 2: betray Jeanie and choose and feels bad about it, and
Speaker 2: he goes, oh my god, that is like so yeah,
Speaker 2: I could have been Maybe that's just on me performance wise.
Speaker 2: I should have been more like Stuart's my best pal
Speaker 2: and this is so fun and Corey you're being it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I found that weird. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: is weird, by the way, I would love if they
Speaker 3: if somebody would do this for me is the second.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Stuart comes flying through the door and lands on the
Speaker 3: ground in the student union. It just freezes on him,
Speaker 3: and then Daniel Daniel Stearns's voice comes in. It's just
Speaker 3: like I couldn't believe that Corey shoved me to the ground.
Speaker 3: That would have been so awesome just to see that.
Speaker 3: For two seconds, Cory gets defensive. I don't know, I've
Speaker 3: never hit anybody before. Sean says that his out of
Speaker 3: control moments are usually funny, but this was too far.
Speaker 3: He could get in trouble. Then Amy and Allan burst
Speaker 3: into the room. Alan is flustered, Hey, no matter what happens,
Speaker 3: we're behind you, no matter what. Corey summarizes the first
Speaker 3: time in my life, I hit somebody and it's a teacher.
Speaker 3: Alan siys, you w idiot, I thought you hit a student.
Speaker 3: Amy wonders what could have possessed him to do such
Speaker 3: a thing. Corey defends his actions. He made a move
Speaker 3: on Topanga. Alan asks in class, and Corey corrects him.
Speaker 3: No in her dorm room, and she doesn't speak up.
Speaker 2: She doesn't say anything.
Speaker 3: No Panga's just sitting there. It's like, how does Amy
Speaker 3: not go to her? How? You know, how do we
Speaker 3: not see part of that.
Speaker 1: Sound that a phone call was had to let Amy
Speaker 1: and Allen know they needed to get here. And none
Speaker 1: of what happened to Tabanka was involved in that phone call.
Speaker 1: It was just hey, and you need to get here
Speaker 1: because and no, like listen, nothing just.
Speaker 3: It's no longer to Panga is an accessory to her
Speaker 3: own story all of a sudden, which I found really
Speaker 3: really off putting. I know, you're strange. I don't. And again,
Speaker 3: they clearly changed the punch to a shove for the
Speaker 3: stunt and for what Corey does, but didn't any of
Speaker 3: that dialogue At the end, it was still hit hit.
Speaker 1: Amy and Allen look at each other, be fuddled. Then
Speaker 1: Eric runs into the room breathless. Okay, I saw the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I can testify in court that teacher hit
Speaker 1: I repeat, hit young Corey Matthews. Corey can't lie, no,
Speaker 1: I hit him. Eric proudly grins, Yeah, I know, dude,
Speaker 1: I saw the whole thing. That dude sailed. He forces
Speaker 1: a five on Corey, then turns to his parents. You
Speaker 1: guys know about my fifth sense. Right, Amy is unamused.
Speaker 1: You've told us about it, yes, Eric reveals, well, it's
Speaker 1: working overtime right now. I can feel it in my veins.
Speaker 1: This guy's bad. Then Phoene storms into the room, complaining,
Speaker 1: you can't talk to that woman. She's the dean of
Speaker 1: the universe. You can't reason with her. He mimxed her.
Speaker 1: This is a university. The university has rules. He shouts
Speaker 1: down the hall. Well, I have rules too, Missy.
Speaker 2: Angry Feenie, I know, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like Anny intervening naturally, because Corey is his guy,
Speaker 2: and like Feenie would be very much about university of
Speaker 2: rules and protocol and boundaries, and like, I just feel
Speaker 2: like the Feenie response would be much more where it
Speaker 2: sort of ends up, which is, like Corey, you violated,
Speaker 2: you know, a university policy and you shouldn't have, and
Speaker 2: you will take the consequences for that. But I'm on
Speaker 2: your side for x y Z and you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Like Feenie would have been the first person to bring
Speaker 1: it back to Topanga, of course, he would have been
Speaker 1: like Corey, we will deal with your behavior later. The
Speaker 1: problem here is what happened to Tapega, and that's what
Speaker 1: needs Stewart because then that is his entire focus in
Speaker 1: the courtroom. Why are you alone with her? Why are
Speaker 1: you doing this? He wouldn't be coming in going I
Speaker 1: have to defend Corey. He'd be saying what you did
Speaker 1: was out of line, and we'll get to that. But
Speaker 1: you off to the side to Pangas this is about you.
Speaker 1: I also do not like I want to say it.
Speaker 1: It's a thing we write. It's in Boy Meets World
Speaker 1: a few times, and I know it comes back around
Speaker 1: in Girl Meets World as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I have rules to Missy. Calling a woman missy, it
Speaker 1: feels like you are calling her ail, like you're making
Speaker 1: her a child Phoene. In my opinion, it is a
Speaker 1: belittling way to address somebody, unless it's like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just didn't like it. I really did not like
Speaker 1: it with Feoene to the dean, it just feels snaky.
Speaker 2: Chicks can be sensitive, So yeah, listen here, Missy. Well,
Speaker 2: that's the other thing you'd understand.
Speaker 3: He was actually talking about the dean of admissions, which
Speaker 3: is different whose name is Missy sma Right, He's literally, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's Missy.
Speaker 2: Does anybody is Missy anymore?
Speaker 1: No, it's a very old school thing, and it's very
Speaker 1: talking down to It's very listen here, Missy. It's like
Speaker 1: for Feenie to do that to the dean just feels gross.
Speaker 1: Corey speaks up, you know what, this guy knows what
Speaker 1: he did and he deserves what he got.
Speaker 2: Little miss Sunshiny in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Little do you really believe all that, little miss miss Sunshine?
Speaker 2: Miss Yeah, yeah, it's that he like feminizes ethical values
Speaker 2: in the beginning and like whatever, So that's so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's odd, Little Mary Sunshine, Little little Mary Sunshine. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Corey speaks up. You know what, this guy knows what
Speaker 1: he did and he deserves what he got. This is
Speaker 1: all going to go away. Phoene has bad news. The
Speaker 1: Dean is scheduled a hearing. There's a possibility that Corey
Speaker 1: could get kicked out of school. Corey and Topanga look petrified.
Speaker 1: We're in the student union, Eric, Jack, and Rachel enter
Speaker 1: and Eric immediately spots Stewart doing some paperwork at a table.
Speaker 1: Eric tries to turn around to leave, but Jack stops him.
Speaker 1: Eric tries to act inconspicuous, but demands his roommates come
Speaker 1: with him. Jack groans, why why are you my friend?
Speaker 1: Why can't I have better friends? Rachel asks Eric what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Eric points to Stuart, that's the guy that
Speaker 1: hit young Corey Matthews. So he's come up with a plan,
Speaker 1: an extremely complicated plan. He tells Jack to go over
Speaker 1: and flaunt himself. Jack says no, so Eric asks Rachel
Speaker 1: to do it instead. She's taken aback, so Eric encourages
Speaker 1: her tease him, trap him, do what women do. It's ingrained.
Speaker 2: This whole scene is just like why.
Speaker 3: It gets to completely and totally unnecessary. Take this out
Speaker 3: and give us more of Tapanga trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the hell's going on? Longer scenes everywhere.
Speaker 2: Or just have a connected like if Eric is preparing
Speaker 2: his defense of Corey, yeah, and Jack and Rachel are
Speaker 2: helping him do that, it would have been You can
Speaker 2: come up with a million other things. Is this scene
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the plot other than giving
Speaker 2: the three of you something to do and hopefully inserting
Speaker 2: laughs Like that's what which is fine? Like I get
Speaker 2: the balance, like the need for balance, but I just
Speaker 2: don't like this scene. This scene is nice.
Speaker 1: I do think that's what the idea was. That he's
Speaker 1: building his defense, which is if you go over there
Speaker 1: and throw yourself at him, he'll come on to you.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's okay. So that is what the point is.
Speaker 3: It's just it wasn't executed very well well.
Speaker 1: It also could be done without the insults to just
Speaker 1: two women, like here, I have a great idea. He
Speaker 1: obviously likes attractive women. Go over there, see if you
Speaker 1: can get him to come on to you instead. You're like,
Speaker 1: do what, trap him? Do the thing that you women do.
Speaker 1: It's ingrained in you. And then Eric imitates a girl
Speaker 1: giggling and rests his hand on her face. I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty good but Rachel is not interested in this plan.
Speaker 3: Give it to give give the joke to Rachel. So
Speaker 3: what you do is Eric, Eric goes, I'm going to
Speaker 3: trap him. I'm gonna go over there. I'm going to
Speaker 3: hit on him. He's gonna and and Rachel he goes, hey,
Speaker 3: why why don't you leave this one?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think I could do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah that you know, if you give her the power
Speaker 3: in the scene, you can get the same thing, but
Speaker 3: the one.
Speaker 1: Instead of for some reason, Eric being kind of insulting
Speaker 1: and gross. Let her be like, Okay, I see what
Speaker 1: you're doing.
Speaker 2: Good idea, Hey, let me interesting where she gets rejected
Speaker 2: and is upset about it would be much funny because
Speaker 2: she's so confident. She's like, I can always.
Speaker 1: Go there's one thing I know. It's how to get
Speaker 1: a guy, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, And then backfires and she's flustered.
Speaker 1: That would have been Yes, that would have been much
Speaker 1: much funnier. So she is not going to go over
Speaker 1: there and flaunt herself. That's the other thing is that
Speaker 1: her not wanting to help makes it extra gross, but
Speaker 1: he's forcing her to do it. Let her be like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing here.
Speaker 2: I could need my new friends.
Speaker 3: Let me show you what I can do for you.
Speaker 3: And it's like that you don't want it? What? And
Speaker 3: then she's got a big yeah, change, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: Eric demands you will flaunt if there was ever a
Speaker 1: problem in your family. There's nothing I would not do
Speaker 1: to help them. I would go to prison for your
Speaker 1: family because we live together, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: am a part of your family. Except when I dream
Speaker 1: about you and you're in that little pink robe and
Speaker 1: you start doing that thing. Rachel cuts him off and
Speaker 1: reluctantly agrees. Eric wants her to practice on Jack, but
Speaker 1: they're not enthused. Rachel kicks it off. Hi, Stuart, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? I hear you're a really good teacher.
Speaker 1: Eric laughs, I'm more woman than that. Rachel tells him
Speaker 1: to shut up and walks toward the professor. She sits
Speaker 1: at his table and starts off quite awkwardly, shuffling papers,
Speaker 1: adjusting herself, but lands at a smile. We see Eric
Speaker 1: and Jack watch closely. The next thing you know, Stuart
Speaker 1: is whispering something in Rachel's ear as she giggles. But
Speaker 1: Rachel turns on a dime and angrily stands up. What
Speaker 1: did you say? Am I too tall for you? Is
Speaker 1: it the fiery, wet red hair is the little boy
Speaker 1: afraid of commitment? Well, you know what, I will not
Speaker 1: allow you to reject me. I'm gonna reject you. You
Speaker 1: will not hurt me. She walks out of the student
Speaker 1: union with her head held high. Eric starts to give
Speaker 1: Jack the same spiel about helping anyone in his family,
Speaker 1: but Jack quickly stops him. I'm not flirting with a guy, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't care if they give your brother the chair.
Speaker 1: Right Then to Panga cautiously makes her way up to Stuart.
Speaker 1: He notices her, and she says, you did cross the line.
Speaker 1: You used a position of power unethically, and Corey protected
Speaker 1: me the only way he knew how, and now it's
Speaker 1: my turn to do the same for him. She demands
Speaker 1: that he leave Corey alone and make this go away,
Speaker 1: or she'll tell the dean that he came on to her.
Speaker 1: Stuart thinks it over and respond if.
Speaker 2: That's an option, becau, isn't that I mean? I Corey
Speaker 2: confronts him. He says, what if I was hitting on her? Well,
Speaker 2: then you're violating your your the school policy and let
Speaker 2: me go. Let's go talk to the school policy like
Speaker 2: we'll get you fired. Like confrontation over right, and so
Speaker 2: like the second that this, uh, like why does the
Speaker 2: Pangan need to go talk to Stuart about this now?
Speaker 2: Like she should just go to the dean. You have
Speaker 2: plenty of witnesses or you know, like hopefully you have
Speaker 2: a good enough case. I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Know, it's like like she wants him to keep his job.
Speaker 1: I'll let you keep your job here. If you just
Speaker 1: make sure Correy doesn't get in trouble for it, then
Speaker 1: you can just go about your way.
Speaker 3: Is exactly what you were talking about where, you know,
Speaker 3: especially back in the early nineties, a young girl might
Speaker 3: not just didn't have the support system or the idea
Speaker 3: that going and reporting somebody maybe was not done as much.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean when she tries to tell the Dean something,
Speaker 1: the Dean shuts her up, so I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she literally never tells her story to anybody but Corey,
Speaker 3: and we don't even see that.
Speaker 1: We don't see it. Yeah. Stuart thinks it over and responds,
Speaker 1: you came on to me. To Penga's blown away hear
Speaker 1: the audience, they're like a Stuart shows no empathy as
Speaker 1: he gets up and leaves. See you at the hearing.
Speaker 1: And then we're at the hearing. Dean Bolander is surrounded
Speaker 1: by people as she takes a seat for the hearing.
Speaker 1: She reminds everyone that this is not a trial, so
Speaker 1: they should not make a courtroom drama out of this,
Speaker 1: and then right on cue the theme from People's court
Speaker 1: plays is the doors wing open to reveal Eric in
Speaker 1: a suit carrying a briefcase. He opens it to reveal
Speaker 1: a tape player. He presses stop, and the music abruptly ends,
Speaker 1: with everyone staring at Eric, including Feenie and Corey sitting together,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cumberland for the Defense, and nearby Jack Comedy simply
Speaker 1: utters unbelievable before distancing himself from his roommate. Foene demands
Speaker 1: Eric to leave, but Eric insists to their partners Feenie
Speaker 1: and Cumberland, Cumberland and Feenie, Feenie and Feenie and Feenie
Speaker 1: and Eric, but mostly Phoene, because I love my brother
Speaker 1: and I want to help Corey earnestly. Thanks Eric. Eric
Speaker 1: tells his new partner Foenie, I know you've got a
Speaker 1: thing going with the Dean, so if it looks like
Speaker 1: we're going to lose, just play the love card, okay.
Speaker 1: Phoene tells him to shut up in the Dean's size, unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Now they clearly cut something here, because you see me,
Speaker 3: I take a breath and I'm right about to say
Speaker 3: something and they cut away to her saying unbelievable. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: I don't know that was a Disney thing that maybe
Speaker 3: maybe there was something inappropriate that I said, but that
Speaker 3: Eric says, but clearly there was a line there that
Speaker 3: they took out.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Well, the Dean begins the hearing. First,
Speaker 1: she asks Stuart what happened? Why would they not ask
Speaker 1: Topenga what happened?
Speaker 3: Ever, by the way, in the entire.
Speaker 1: Thing, the professor explains he was at the student union
Speaker 1: when Corey asked him to step outside. He thought it
Speaker 1: was to talk about a grade, but it was to
Speaker 1: accuse him of making a move on to Penga, and
Speaker 1: then he hit him. Phoene jumps in with a question,
Speaker 1: what were you doing into Benga Lawrence's room. Stuart explains
Speaker 1: he was going over her paper, and Phoene's quick to
Speaker 1: follow up in her room that sounds odd to me.
Speaker 1: Stuart defends his teaching style. He has a relationship with
Speaker 1: his students outside of the classroom, which allows them to
Speaker 1: connect better inside the classroom. He encourages Phoene to ask
Speaker 1: any of them. Stuart looks around the room and points
Speaker 1: out Sean does he have any problem with his teaching method?
Speaker 1: Sewan answers no. In fact, Stuart remembers Sean saying he's
Speaker 1: the best teacher he's ever had. Sean admits he did
Speaker 1: say that, but he doesn't really think his opinion matters.
Speaker 1: Dean Bolander is interested in Sean's perspective and asks him
Speaker 1: to continue. Sean nervously clears his throat. You treat us
Speaker 1: like equals, like adults, when a lot of teachers treat
Speaker 1: us like kids. Stuart calls out mister Feenie for example.
Speaker 1: Sean push pushes back, mister Feenie's a really good teacher.
Speaker 1: The professor smirks, Yeah, but he treats you like a kid.
Speaker 1: Sean tells Stuart he made his point. He explains that
Speaker 1: Phoene's been their teacher in grade school then in high school,
Speaker 1: so he may feel like he needs to protect them.
Speaker 1: He turns to Feenie and apologizes, but Phoene tells him
Speaker 1: not to worry about it. Phoeney questions Stuart again.
Speaker 2: Why is this about Sean?
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. Everybody talks about Dean Bolander
Speaker 1: is like, Sean, I need to hear more from you, please?
Speaker 1: Can you tell me more about your opinion of Stuart?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And what does that have anything to do with
Speaker 2: any guy whose friends correaks this teacher. I don't know
Speaker 2: how that's a defense or an.
Speaker 1: Complete who cares his opinion means nothing. Phoeney questions Stuart again,
Speaker 1: how did you know what dormitory Topanga is in? Stuart
Speaker 1: insists that she told him she lived in the Mackay dorms.
Speaker 1: Completely unprompted, he asks Topanga, isn't that right? Tapega begins
Speaker 1: to explain, yes, that's true, but Stuart cuts her off.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Phoene asks Stuart if he truly thought it
Speaker 1: was proper to be in a young female student's bedroom.
Speaker 1: Stuart corrects him a dorm room also serves as a
Speaker 1: living room, a TV room, or a study. It was
Speaker 1: not a bedroom when I was in there. Phoene raises
Speaker 1: his voice, Stuart, do you believe, as a college professor
Speaker 1: that it is okay to be alone in a dorm
Speaker 1: room with a young female student. Stuart shrugs. The door
Speaker 1: was open. I even asked her roommate to stay. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was Topanga who showed Angelo away. Isn't that right?
Speaker 1: To Panga? Topanga responds, she was on her way to
Speaker 1: the student union. I didn't feel if He cuts her
Speaker 1: off again, thank you, Stuart asks Pheoenie if he has
Speaker 1: any more questions than Phoenie answers just one. Is it
Speaker 1: okay if I rip your head off and roll it
Speaker 1: down the hallway? The inmates in the audience laugh, breaking
Speaker 1: the tension. Stuart tries to reason with him, George, you
Speaker 1: and I both know that it teacher is only as
Speaker 1: effective as the respect he is given, and Corey's show
Speaker 1: of disrespect undermines me and this university to Penga shouts back,
Speaker 1: and your show of disrespect undermines me. The Dean raises
Speaker 1: her voice, Miss Lawrence, but Topanga keeps her eyes on Stuart.
Speaker 1: You know what you did? Stuart insists he didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Corey jumps in, he made a move on to Panga
Speaker 1: on my fiance. Dean Bolander doesn't tell him to shut up.
Speaker 3: Now, I was gonna say, the only person she tells
Speaker 3: to shut up is to Panga.
Speaker 1: The entire time he uses his power and authority to
Speaker 1: take advantage of her. And he told me there was
Speaker 1: nothing I could do and that he was never going
Speaker 1: to stop. So I did something. I realized that this
Speaker 1: wasn't the smartest thing in the world to do, but
Speaker 1: it was all I could come up with at the time.
Speaker 1: The Dean states, striking a member of this faculty is inexcusable,
Speaker 1: no matter what the provocation. Sean asks the Dean if
Speaker 1: he can say something, and she allows it. Sean takes
Speaker 1: a jacket. Because you're not tapanga, I'm gonna let you speak.
Speaker 1: Sean tells his best friend, it's okay with me that
Speaker 1: you hit him. Corey thanks him and turns to the Dean.
Speaker 1: It's okay with Sean, the Dean explains, but it's not
Speaker 1: okay with me. According to the by laws of this university,
Speaker 1: I am bound to expel or suspend any student for
Speaker 1: striking an educator for any reason whatsoever. Phoene begs her
Speaker 1: to reconsider, but she shoots him down. You can't protect
Speaker 1: them anymore. Phoene takes a seat without saying another word.
Speaker 1: Dean Bolander continues, Corey matthews, I hereby suspend you from
Speaker 1: this university for a period of one day. Stuart looks
Speaker 1: at her in shock. One day. The Dean adds, you are, however,
Speaker 1: under probation for the remainder of this term, and I
Speaker 1: will not take kindly to your solving any other problems
Speaker 1: with anything but words. Corey assures her she won't need
Speaker 1: to worry about that. Stuart argues, Dean, he hit a teacher.
Speaker 1: Dean Bolander raises her voice back at him. A teacher
Speaker 1: must be someone a student can trust. The second the
Speaker 1: teacher uses pressure on a student for any reason, what'soever
Speaker 1: other than academic, that trust is destroyed. Stuart thinks that
Speaker 1: there must be some sort of misunderstanding, but Dean Bolander
Speaker 1: cuts him off. She points at mister Feeney, this is
Speaker 1: a teacher. I'm not sure what you are, but you
Speaker 1: can be certain I'm going to find out. So it's
Speaker 1: clear she believes.
Speaker 3: To Panga, having heard her side at all, she just
Speaker 3: she just needed to hear de men.
Speaker 2: Talking right, So right, But I guess all she is
Speaker 2: supposed to be addressing right now is the physic whether
Speaker 2: she yeah, well correct, yeah, the charge that Stuart brought forward.
Speaker 2: But couldn't she then after this meeting go to Panga
Speaker 2: and say, if you would like to file charges against.
Speaker 1: Stewart, Yes, we can open that.
Speaker 2: Yes because obviously there seems to be enough evidence and
Speaker 2: I need to do and I believe you because she
Speaker 2: seems like she does. So if she believes her.
Speaker 1: That would be the by the way, you could do
Speaker 1: that in one line. In one line, she could say,
Speaker 1: but you can be sure, I'm going to find out
Speaker 1: to Penga, I would love to talk with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if you will like to file a report,
Speaker 2: come to meet me up, let's go. Let's go do
Speaker 2: that right now. I am correct glad to do that,
Speaker 2: and we will have a whole other tune.
Speaker 1: Then we believe that Topanga gets a whole thing for herself.
Speaker 1: That there gets to be a side of this. It's
Speaker 1: about that's about Topanga. But first, apparently they had to
Speaker 1: get through this. You know, this shoving hitting a teacher situation.
Speaker 1: It would have for me made all of this, yeah
Speaker 1: feel better.
Speaker 3: Again with just one Corey walks into that dorm room.
Speaker 3: The entire show shifts. It's no longer about to Panga,
Speaker 3: is now about Corey. Yeah, which I found out.
Speaker 1: Stuart stares back at the Dean as she adjourns the hearing,
Speaker 1: telling everyone to go home. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief,
Speaker 1: and Amy makes her way up to Tapanga. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry you had to go through all this, Alan, thanks
Speaker 1: Feenie for sticking by them. He asks his son how
Speaker 1: he's doing, and Corey says he's okay. Alan and Amy
Speaker 1: leave just as Sean and Angela approach. Sean tells Feeney,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I could have compared him to you.
Speaker 1: Phoene is unaffected and pats him on the back. Corey exclaims,
Speaker 1: I guess college is a lot different than high school. Huh.
Speaker 1: Phenie nods, I'm afraid so. And I'm also afraid that
Speaker 1: the dean is right. I've tried to protect you for
Speaker 1: too long in the shelters of high school. This is
Speaker 1: a major university, this is life, and these things happen,
Speaker 1: and you're not children anymore. Melancholic music plays as Corey, Sean, Tapanga,
Speaker 1: and Angela all stand together and let his words sink in.
Speaker 1: Corey repeats, We're not children anymore. Topanga wonders when did
Speaker 1: that happen? Angela explains, I don't know today. I think
Speaker 1: Sean thinks for a moment and says, guys want to
Speaker 1: go get ice cream or something. They smile and nod,
Speaker 1: and then they leave the room together and that's the
Speaker 1: end of our show.
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Speaker 3: mash that just ended with no music, just yeah the
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