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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good me too, West Wheler. Matt Williamson our number two

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Speaker 2: of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network on a Tuesday. That means it's time

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Speaker 2: for a little fantasy focus here on the program, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to run by some week three kind of

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Speaker 2: waiver wire pickups and names and things like that, because

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Speaker 2: we're starting to get to the point of the season already,

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Speaker 2: just two weeks in, some substantial injuries across the league.

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Speaker 3: Burrows down, McCarthy's not gonna play this week. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if Jay and Daniel's gonna banged out. You of

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Speaker 3: those were top five drafted quarterbacks in fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Particularly particularly at the at the quarterback position. Uh, certainly starting.

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Speaker 3: A better feel for running back usage.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Jen Reid is going to be out right right,

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Speaker 2: Eklar is going to be out. I mean, so there's

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Speaker 2: a you know, again, we're only uh, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: only two weeks into this thing, but it's time to

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Speaker 2: start hitting that waiver wire. So let's talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about the quarterback position, and according to uh CBS

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Speaker 2: Sports here, they have cam Ward listed as their week

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Speaker 2: three quarterback waiver wire pickup.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is Daniel Jones listed or has he been picked

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Speaker 3: up too many times? I don't like these waiver wire articles.

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Speaker 3: Usually they're like X amount of leagues he has to

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Speaker 3: be in the qualify or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh they said, also considering Trevor Lawrence, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think I would have Jones ahead. Award runs

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Speaker 3: a lot. It's hard well.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're scoring a ton of.

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Speaker 3: Points, a ton of points against the really good defenses

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Speaker 3: past week. He probably wasn't drafted in any league. I'm

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Speaker 3: a Ward fan as well. Both those you could do

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Speaker 3: a lot worse, and they're probably on almost everyone's waiver

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Speaker 3: wired that's listening unless Jones happened to get picked up

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Speaker 3: after week one, but that's unlikely. But I think though

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Speaker 3: both guys will be scooped up real soon. They both run.

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Speaker 3: Jones has better weapons, He's a little more accomplished, but

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Speaker 3: I think Ward is a bright future.

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Speaker 2: Some questions about potentially some guys to drop. How you

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Speaker 2: feel about Colston Lovelin to this point.

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Speaker 3: Bears have been a disaster. Yeah, I'm fine dropping love one.

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Speaker 2: Like I think he has a bright NFL career ahead. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he could be a very good tight end.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's going to translate. The

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Speaker 2: fantasy points to this naw.

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Speaker 3: So Comets still plays a lot. They have three receivers

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Speaker 3: on the field and awful lot. There's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of poor tape thrown out there by the Bears in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine moving on from him, and you know Bowers

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Speaker 3: a year ago, Warren this year. They can cloud our

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Speaker 3: judgment or are thoughts that rookie tight ends usually struggle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was one of the old Adam's, the.

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Speaker 3: Old old school, yeah fantasy staple.

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Speaker 2: You know who is it, Eric Ebron that you had

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Speaker 2: ESPN days. Yeah, another top cut candidate, Adam Feeling usage

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Speaker 2: is down. Jordan Addison comes back next week.

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Speaker 3: Well, Addison will be in the just for Steeler purposes.

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Speaker 3: Addison will definitely be there for Yes he will Ireland,

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Speaker 3: Yes he will, Okay, and he's supposed to come back

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Speaker 3: this upcoming week.

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Speaker 2: But no, this is his last weekend three, his last suspension,

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Speaker 2: his last suspended, and then obviously with quarter situation.

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Speaker 3: So side note, and this isn't very fantasy related, but

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Speaker 3: Wentz and Donald have a lot in common. Could the

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Speaker 3: Vikings get a lot out of Wentz? I'm just just

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Speaker 3: keeping on your radar, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if if McCarthy's out four or five weeks

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Speaker 3: he plays like Donald last year, could the young pupp

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: I don't trust it either, But but maybe.

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Speaker 2: If he could do eighty eighty five percent of yeah

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Speaker 2: the answer to that won't be discovered for Minnesota until

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Speaker 3: But if you're in a super fleax or a two

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Speaker 3: quarterback league, grab Wentz Oh for sure. I'm grab Browning too.

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Speaker 2: Browning, I mean, they're they're gonna throw. They both got

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Speaker 3: Two best receivers in the league. Now I think about it.

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Speaker 3: I think they played each other this week almost certain.

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Speaker 2: I think you are correct in saying that. I do

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Speaker 2: think that that is right. Rookie running backs off to

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a slow start, Matt, I have.

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Speaker 3: A two and two together. Until I was having this

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Speaker 3: conversation about last night's game. It's like Hampton slow, genty slow.

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Speaker 2: I have guys like RJ. Harvey and Trevon Henderson are

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Judkins hasn't even been inserted yet. Samson had

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Speaker 3: a decent day. Scataboo has been kind of in between.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was okay this past week. But all

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Speaker 3: this talk about, you know, going back to the draft,

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Speaker 3: this is one of the best running back Caleb Johnson's

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Speaker 3: on nothing ian you talk about highly drafted dudes in

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Speaker 3: the real world. I mean, he's the most disappointing. But

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Speaker 3: I mean the whole world, myself included, this is an

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Speaker 3: awesome running back class. You know, Genti's a top ten pick,

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Speaker 3: Hampton's going in the first round. A lot of Day

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Speaker 3: two dudes. And I'll be honest, like when I started

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Speaker 3: I mean some of them just haven't proven to their

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Speaker 3: coach they can pass. Yeah, that kind of stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: just to just you know, as we can kind of

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Speaker 2: continue some of these quick hitters Jaguars wide receivers in

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Speaker 2: And now he's dealing with some injury stuff as well too.

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Speaker 2: And then Travis Hunter just fifty five yards through two

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Speaker 3: I owned Hunter everywhere, and I know.

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Speaker 2: That you own Hunter everywhere, and in my big money league,

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Speaker 2: I have Brian Thomas Junior. Is that trying to get

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Speaker 2: off the ground in Liam Cohen's new offense or might

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Speaker 2: there be some serious concerns that it's not working with

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Speaker 3: I forget what podcasts I was listening to on the

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Speaker 3: way here. I listened to so many, that's all you.

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Speaker 3: But I guess there's a big not that it's like

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Speaker 3: trending right now, but they're somewhere on Twitter. Someone put

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Speaker 3: over the last two years all the touchdowns that have

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Speaker 3: been dropped that Trevor Lawrence through and it's when you

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Speaker 3: watch it all on as a clip, it's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 3: last year. But I mean, he's getting harder for me

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Speaker 3: with those two superstar talented receivers, he should have a

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Speaker 3: transitional in terms of this new system coming from Tampa

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Speaker 3: which was not a good look at all for him.

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Speaker 2: One of those business decisions right looks.

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Speaker 3: Which I'm sure he's getting an ear for fearfull of.

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Speaker 3: But still he's more of an outside the numbers, go

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Speaker 3: get it guy, you know, like Mike Evans. Role changed

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Speaker 3: is going to have to adjust a little. As for Hunter,

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Speaker 3: I'm just staying patient. But here's what's happening with Hunter.

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Speaker 3: He's not even out there in two receiver sets. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they gave an Ammie Brown decent money too. No one

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Speaker 3: million dollar contract that all receivers got of that ILK

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Speaker 3: this offseason, and Hunter is playing defense as they thought,

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Speaker 3: But he is a receiver first. But this last week

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Speaker 3: he played like double his defensive snaps. Yeah, so he's

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Speaker 3: kind of a tough one in that. Just because he's

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Speaker 3: He's still out there like seventy percent of the offensive snaps, folks.

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Speaker 3: So everyone thinks third receiver, Oh, he doesn't even play.

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Speaker 3: I can't start him offense. No, And you moved up

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Speaker 3: you know, I'd like, I think I'm gonna take him

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Speaker 3: him starting both weeks, and he's hurt me. And I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna put like a Chris a Lava or a Pickens

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Speaker 2: Last one for our Fantasy Football Focus, Fred tweeted this,

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Speaker 2: I think yesterday or earlier today, and I bookmarked it

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Speaker 2: need to pick up a quarterback. Daniel Jones and Matthew

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Speaker 2: Stafford have already been claimed. Oh, I'm looking at Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones, and Jake Browning. Any advice, cool.

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Speaker 3: Try to make a trade. I mean, obviously you better

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Speaker 2: I would Russ. I mean at this point, I don't

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Speaker 3: I was said that a week ago. But he threw.

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Speaker 2: You just need hopefully a week or two stop gap.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could do work. He did

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Speaker 2: throw for a million yards and a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: That's why I didn't want to just jump in there

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Speaker 3: and be like, this is so reactive because they've scored

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Speaker 3: a ton of points and I don't know what that

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Speaker 2: But if you're just doing it on a week to

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Speaker 2: week basis, he might be the guy. Now.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones doesn't run at all. None of them run

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Speaker 3: is the problem. I mean, I guess Wilson, that's a

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Speaker 2: It's a tough place to be.

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Speaker 3: Usually you got a better wave of wire group the

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Speaker 2: It's Power Rankings Tuesday here on the Drive, as we

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Speaker 2: will run the gambit here, starting as always from the

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Speaker 2: It was troubling Number thirty one. The Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 2: We're going to hit a big recept button this offseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's right. He is good call by you. Number thirty

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Speaker 3: And I'm guilty this. Everyone's guilty this. If I was

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later in the little Survivor pool

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Speaker 3: They have a case to be thirty two. They do,

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Speaker 2: You know, you have Bryce Young throw the ball fifty

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Speaker 2: I think an encouraging about it, as good as you

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Speaker 3: Starter for fans, and another quarterback that you're down. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't fight having the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Here twenty seven. They share a stadium with the Jets.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. I mean, I guess entertaining game

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Speaker 2: Think i'd have them ahead of the Titans.

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Speaker 3: I mean, anyone that's written these lists like I have

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Speaker 3: Fine, fine, gonna be a roller closter. Defense hasn't been bad.

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Speaker 2: They are taking double digit penalties in both games. That's

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Speaker 3: They don't have a lot around them, you know. They

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Speaker 2: Number twenty five the Steelers upcoming opponent, the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel gets his first win as the head coach

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Speaker 2: They did not have a fun night last night.

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Speaker 3: I say last time I had to be the Raiders right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just Jenny didn't get going. Defense is lacking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta be frustrated by that one. I

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Speaker 2: Are Yeah, it feels like he got hurt midway through

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Speaker 3: Just you know, and they come back on you heavy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: That is a great mojo there right now.

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Speaker 2: They're not good at all. And it looks like Brian

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know who this is?

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Speaker 2: Low oh and two Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: They have the worst point differential in the league. Something

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Speaker 2: I lied, Sorry, the Texans are are ranked ahead of

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry I misspoke, fair enough, you're.

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Speaker 2: Of the a lot of these teams behind them. I

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Speaker 3: If they played the Jets right now on neutral field,

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Speaker 2: Giants, I'm taking I'm taking the Giants.

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Speaker 3: not been a successful organization for a while.

440
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Speaker 2: No, And that's what I mean. It's not like they're

441
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: one of the ones that deserve the better, you know,

442
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: they don't get the Chiefs deserve a lot of benefit

443
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 2: of the doubs where they're at right now. The Bears

444
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: are the opposite the Dallas Cowboys checking in at twenty one,

445
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: getting their first victory in that dramatic overtime win against

446
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: the Giants.

447
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you look at that through the lens

448
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: of neither of these teams are great and they're equal

449
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 3: on that day, I'm fine with it. Cincinnati's the poster

450
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 3: boy for this, and I think Washington's in this neighborhood,

451
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 3: but I think this is going to be Dallas amongst them.

452
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: Start all your fantasy players bet the over, you know,

453
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 3: like Dak's really good, they have receivers, and the defense

454
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: is really gonna miss Parsons, you know. Yeah, I can

455
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: see a lot of high scoring games with.

456
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: Dallas checking in at number twenty, down four spots from

457
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: last week after losing the home opener to Seattle. It's

458
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: your Pittsburgh Steelers talking about the offense not making the

459
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: most of their chances and the defense being not nearly

460
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: good enough so far.

461
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I'm curious who's right above them?

462
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: Who isn't you know? And again we're net picking, but

463
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: it was pretty miserable performance. And I mean, if you

464
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: want to talk advanced statistics or whatever, they're not. They

465
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: don't have a lot, a lot of legs to stand

466
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: on and tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, so I think that's fair. First,

467
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: you would hope that's as low as they go.

468
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but absolutely, Uh, first time in more than twenty

469
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: years the Steelers allowed thirty plus points in their first

470
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 2: two games to start the season. Yeah, nineteen, the Minnesota Vikings.

471
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: They're a bit of a bad place they are. Their

472
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: line injuries have been problem.

473
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: Saw being out as I mean, they will get George

474
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: back after this week, which is big. Yeah, But I

475
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: think this for them right now is just gonna come

476
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 2: down to what how much juice can they squeeze out

477
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: of Carson Wentz. Yeah, if they can get him to

478
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: be just fine, they'll they'll be alright, and they'll win

479
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: games and they'll be in a playoff hunt.

480
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me if this is the lowest they

481
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: dip throughout the year too. But I think maybe they

482
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 3: have around fourteen ish something like that, unless Wentz is

483
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: a disaster.

484
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that you're that you're that you're correct

485
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 2: on that. When they dropped them eight spots from that

486
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: they were eleven last week now down to nineteen.

487
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: Well, if they do it this same way I do,

488
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: is how good are you this minute?

489
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: Not?

490
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, when when Burrow comes back or when McCarthy comes

491
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: back and Grady, maybe I'd have the Bengals in this

492
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: category now I'm thinking about it.

493
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we still haven't. We still haven't gotten to Cincinnati. Yeah,

494
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 2: eighteen the Arizona Cardinals two and oh, hasn't been spectacular,

495
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 2: but they're two and oh.

496
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: They were our worst two and o team than we

497
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: when I went through it earlier. And I think that's

498
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: pretty clear. Neither of their winds have blown my door out.

499
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: The Panthers, Yeah, the teams nice late seventeen A man

500
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: a disappointing loss last night to drop them to zero

501
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: and two, back and forth with the Bucks, and the

502
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: Bucks find a way to get it done at the end.

503
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

504
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud was running for his life.

505
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: I know. And that's how it's been for now a

506
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: year and two games where the defense is really good

507
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: and then the last drive, the defense is spent and

508
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: can't get after Mayfield and all of a sudden he

509
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: walks right down the field and you get beaten the

510
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: last second. Something's a little bit missing there. I mean,

511
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: I know Chubb had a long run, but like last year,

512
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: they were the worst first down running team in the league,

513
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: Like we talked about success rate, they were always behind

514
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: the chains, and it feels the same this year.

515
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, this one surprise you to me. I expected

516
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: them to take a big drop despite being two to zero.

517
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: It's the Cincinnati Bengals at sixteen.

518
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: I might have them six spots lower.

519
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's currently constructed right now. If they play

520
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: the Texans, the Texans are favored. Yeah, they play the Vikings,

521
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings are probably favored.

522
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I guess they're going to this week. We'll see that

523
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: in a minute. But yeah, Steelers, I mean, I'm not

524
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: sure Jetson Giants are.

525
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: I would pick right if the Cowboys and the Bengals

526
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: were playing on a neutral field tomorrow, I'm picking Dallas.

527
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers are favored over Since you too.

528
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Yes, A handful of these teams that are behind them,

529
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: I think would be favored over Cincy.

530
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: Now, they were four and three when Browning took over

531
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: last time, but the defense was much better then.

532
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: Yes it was, you know, yes it was.

533
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're equipped to run the ball

534
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: and play defense.

535
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: Number fifteen up five spots. After putting it on Minnesota

536
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football, they were impressed the Soda Vikings.

537
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: They were defense. I mean, that's as good as I

538
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: remember a Falcons defense looking since was taking them to

539
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: a sing Bowl.

540
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: And a lot of the rookies, those two edge.

541
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Guys, Marshall, Yeah, that's the other dude. Yeah, the other

542
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: the other guys well too, who they drafted the first round?

543
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: Correct, they both were first round or Baltimore.

544
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's right, I'm getting confused.

545
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: They traded up for Pierce and Walker Walkerward decent the

546
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: safety out of Notre Dame, Watts, Billy Bowman. They may

547
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: have found four starters on defense, and maybe it's just

548
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: because of standalone game. But I'm just sit there watching

549
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Bijon like I'm seeing I haven't seen many running backs

550
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: in my life that are better than him. I mean,

551
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: he's ridiculous.

552
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: He's a freak.

553
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 3: He is a freak his balance and acceleration and vision

554
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: and it's like.

555
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Wow, one of the best college football players I ever

556
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: saw with my own two eyes.

557
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: I bet, I bet, yeah, I can totally imagine.

558
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: He a few years ago, came to Morgantown and ran

559
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: for like two hundred yards and a handful of touchdowns,

560
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: and I mean he was an impressive specimen. That was

561
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: I think his sophomore year, I want to say, and

562
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: it was like keep an eye on that guy. Yeah,

563
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: and he just he's I mean he is he is.

564
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: I think Sa Kwan without quite the hype.

565
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: I think he's maybe better, but I.

566
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: Think right now, I think he might be yeah, yeah, yeah,

567
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: and it could be.

568
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Better even you know, really accomplished in the past.

569
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: So I was just gonna say, he's such a good

570
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: pass catcher. That's what makes him. Not only is he

571
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: a freakish running back, but he's a he's a a

572
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: outstanding talent out of the backfield as well too.

573
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: So last year, we remember the Steelers opened with the Falcons,

574
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: and at that point in Rob King's career, he was

575
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: taking over to be his current role.

576
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: That was his first game as the voice of the

577
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers.

578
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: So to be honest, I was getting to know Rob then.

579
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I didn't. He wasn't a regular on our show. I

580
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: didn't do shows him. He wasn't buddy yet, you know,

581
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: starting with them, like this guy's cool, you know whatever.

582
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: But I mean he would ask me a bunch of stuff,

583
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: you know, as he still does, and we go back

584
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: and forth and upcoming opponents, and he was more of

585
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: a baseball background, and all he could talk about was Jon,

586
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: you know, like just watching pre you know, watching the

587
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: year before, like this back, holy cat, he's a freak,

588
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean, it was just cool to see

589
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: someone that doesn't always do this for a living. That

590
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: was new dropped into.

591
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: It and be like, whoa have you seen this number

592
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: seven from Atlanta?

593
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he's pretty good.

594
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Number fourteen on the list, up five spots, the Seattle Seahawks.

595
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have them right in the middle.

596
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: I think that's about right. That defense is legit. If

597
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: think he's legit. If they can run the ball effectively

598
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: like that, Sam Darnold will make enough plays. Yeah, they're

599
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: They're a good not great, but a good team. Thirteen

600
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: two and zero, same division, the San Francisco forty nine ers,

601
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: up two spots.

602
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they beat the Saints in the same

603
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: tongue around it was closed and we gave the Saints

604
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: credit for that. But Mac Jones is in it right now.

605
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: And I would have them ahead of Seattle in that

606
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: division that we were talking about the West today, and

607
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: I would rank the West the same way Rams, Niners, Seahawks,

608
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: Cardinals and apparently whoever this does agrees.

609
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: With me could end up being a pretty good division

610
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: by the end of the year.

611
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no weak.

612
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Number twelve. The surprise story in the NFL through two

613
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: weeks of the season, Matt They jumped twelve spots this week,

614
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: from twenty fourth to twelve. I think that's the biggest

615
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: jump I ever remembered. Yeah, lot, the Indianapolis Colts. This

616
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: might still be a little bit high for me, but

617
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 2: the way they're playing right now, I can't argue against it.

618
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who we've mentioned that I would say

619
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: definitely belongs ahead of them. Every other team has shown

620
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: more wards.

621
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: It's a great point, you know.

622
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they'll stay there, but all

623
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: the names we mentioned I would have below them right.

624
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Now, number eleven, the lowest they have been in years

625
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: on these power rankings, dropping six spots after dropping their

626
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: second straight game to open the season. The Kansas City Chiefs,

627
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

628
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they've had two really difficult games.

629
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: They went the Giants this week, hopefully for that for

630
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: their sake, that's an opportunity to get right. Sounds like

631
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy could play this weekend.

632
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: Their weapons are It's really mahomes Is playing unbelievable and

633
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It's it's rare that you can say that.

634
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I completely agree with you. It's Patrick Mahomes is

635
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: like Paul Skins right now. Yeah, a little bit otherworldly

636
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: generational talent, not much.

637
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: Around them, great era, but not a lot of wins.

638
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: Exactly right, number ten into the top ten now, the

639
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos dropping one spot from nine after that, after

640
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: that loss to Endy.

641
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm not overly concerned.

642
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm not either. It's a field goal at the end,

643
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: bad penalty at the right. I think that they're they're

644
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: just fine. I think this is about where they'll be,

645
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of eight to twelve range throughout

646
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: the season.

647
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: They look like a playoff team.

648
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: They look like a playoff team still. And who certainly

649
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: looks like a playoff team is checking in at number nine?

650
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: Two and oher and feeling good? Are the LA Chargers

651
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: up four spots after dominating the Raiders last?

652
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: It looks like Herbert leveling up.

653
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.

654
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was already pretty high up there, you know.

655
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: And I think so, and man if they can get

656
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: Omari and Hampton.

657
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the speed on these rookies that are going slow.

658
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: You know, I Khalil Mack's injury isn't anything too serious.

659
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Speaker 3: Didn't look great.

660
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Speaker 2: The Chargers are in a pretty good spot.

661
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah they are. Weapons are better than they were too.

662
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, absolutely, down one spot from last week

663
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: after kind of taking one on the chin at lambeau Field,

664
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Speaker 2: like a couple teams have already this season. The Commanders

665
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Speaker 2: check in at number eight, a little high.

666
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Speaker 3: I think I'd go lower there.

667
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Speaker 2: Like I think I would have LA ahead of them.

668
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Speaker 2: I think I would have Denver ahead of them, the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs still ahead of them, Chiefs still ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: I still have major worries about Washington's defense, and.

671
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Speaker 2: Now with Jayden daniels availability up in.

672
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Speaker 3: The end, well that too was even accounting for that,

673
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: but even just watching their pass catchers, they're not real dynamic.

674
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: I mean, mclaurin's good, but he's struggling a little bit,

675
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Speaker 3: and a lot of guys that hold out then start

676
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: the season real quick. But their team speed on offense

677
00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: isn't great.

678
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: No, it's not that defense is old man, and they

679
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: ain't getting any younger. Number seven this week, up three

680
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: spots after a two and oh start, both teams in

681
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: LA with a two and oh start. The Rams check

682
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: in at number seven. Yeah, I don't hate We've talked

683
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: about as long as Matthew Stafford is healthy, right, that's

684
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: a really good team.

685
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: I don't even want to talk about his back until

686
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: it's time to talk about his back if we have to.

687
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: Right now, he's out there and he's playing great hookahs.

688
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: A stud Adams is a great addition that the line

689
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: is really hard to play against. Sure.

690
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Number six bouncing back in a big way with a

691
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: beatdown of the Chicago Bears the Detroit Lions. They're up

692
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: two spots from last week.

693
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Speaker 3: It was a very impressive win because I don't think

694
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Speaker 3: the Bears are garbage guard.

695
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears are losing by thirty plus

696
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: points to a division opponent.

697
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Speaker 3: Bad right exactly. I don't think they're picking first overall.

698
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: You know, Number five, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just always.

699
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: Say good things about them, you know, Like I think

700
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: I criminally underrate Baker Mayfield. I'm not saying he's to

701
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Herbert's level or one of those guys, but he's really

702
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: hard to play against. And even when.

703
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving is great, yeah, man, Like they just got

704
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: playmakers all over that offense.

705
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: Defense caused a lot of problems last night. Wurfs was

706
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: already out and then they lost their right tackle, and

707
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, Anderson and Hunter are gonna feast and

708
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 3: they were problems, but they find a way to win.

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00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: You know, that's it important note. Did you see the

710
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: Collijahkancey news today? Yeah, he's out for the year. Yeah,

711
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: torn pack the former first round pick out of pit

712
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: That's a bummer for him because he's had a good

713
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: start to his career. That's a bummer for them because

714
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: he's one of the stalwarts of that defensive line.

715
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: He's their upfield interior penetrated and.

716
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: He has been ruled out for the rest of the

717
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: seasons earlier today. That's a bummer for him and a

718
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: bummer for them. Number four, I'm surprised they're this low,

719
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Speaker 2: and I know that's saying a lot because they're number four,

720
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: but the Green Bay Packers at number four, they'd be one.

721
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: I think I'll do my pat do the best of

722
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: the West Tomorrow. I think they're unless I wake up

723
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: with a change of heart, they're going to be number

724
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: one for me.

725
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: And it's hard to quote disrespect the Super Bowl champs

726
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: you know in the NFC, but Green Bay's killing.

727
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: Who has a better resume too than a comfortable win

728
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: over Detroit and a comfortable went over the Commanders yeah, yeah, right,

729
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: two playoff teams just mentioned, both in the top ten

730
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: of the rankings, and they didn't like kick a last

731
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: second field goal to beat either of those teams. They

732
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: comfortably comfortable, good word, commanding victories against both of those teams.

733
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Speaker 2: Number three is the Baltimore Ravens.

734
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Sure they might be one. I know they lost the Bills.

735
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: Of these top four teams, and good faith argue is

736
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: number one?

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Speaker 3: Who was five? Again?

738
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: Five was the Bucks?

739
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Okay, yeah, I think there's a clear top four.

740
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Speaker 2: I think there's a clear top four right now. Kansas

741
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: City has falling out of that conversation. Yes, I'm not

742
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: putting Tampa in that conversation, particularly not without without Collaja

743
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Cancy now for the rest of the year. But Baltimore three,

744
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo two, Philadelphia one.

745
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 3: Okay. I mean, frankly, those four, if you're took them

746
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: in a bag and shook them up in whatever order

747
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: they came out, I wouldn't fight you too much.

748
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: I not to be the pedantic, but I would have

749
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: the Bills ahead of Baltimore since they just beat them

750
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: within the last two I was.

751
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: Gonna say the same thing.

752
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: But other than that, I'm kind of cool with however

753
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: that fall if.

754
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: They're both five and one in a couple of weeks,

755
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: I might have Baltimore ahead.

756
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Of but for now, you know, still just a week

757
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: or two removed or yeah, one hundred percent. So there

758
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: is your power rankings for week three here in the

759
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: National Football League. Well, we'll do a little best of

760
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: the West to kind of put a cherry on that

761
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: conversation tomorrow. But Matt, when we come back here, what

762
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Speaker 2: do you say we got us some tweets to close

763
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Speaker 2: us down? Like West Shooler, Matt Williamson. It is the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your.

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Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home

766
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Speaker 1: of the Black.

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Speaker 3: And Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

768
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Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive here on a Tuesday, And Matt,

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Speaker 2: what do you say we go to some tweets to

770
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Speaker 2: close it down?

771
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: I like it.

772
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Power Grid Janitor tweets us and says, can you explain

773
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Speaker 2: how it's fair that the Chargers don't get a home

774
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: game this year against the Chiefs. I would be upset

775
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: if our Dublin game was designated against a home or

776
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: designated as a home game against a division foe. Like

777
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: the Browns, the Bengals or the Ravens. Doesn't seem fair

778
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: that you have to play the same team in their stadium.

779
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Speaker 3: Agree, And I complained about it was as soon as

780
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Speaker 3: I found out, you.

781
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Know, like that's one of the things you talked about.

782
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I think we actually went through this

783
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: and maybe just didn't listen to that episode. But I

784
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: think a month ago or several weeks ago, I'm like, Okay,

785
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: you host an overseas game, you'll lose a home game.

786
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: Everyone does happen to that one's going.

787
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Speaker 2: To do in that scope. It's never gonna be fair.

788
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: Be fair.

789
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: The Steelers are playing a home game in Dublin. That's

790
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: their furthest road trip that they're gonna make this year. Yeah,

791
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: and it's a home game.

792
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: And you're gonna lose one. And they'll always they'll do

793
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: that to the a f C because the AFC is

794
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: an extual one is the extra seventeen game schedule. Someday

795
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: I think there'll be an eighteen game schedule and everyone

796
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: will go overseas and everybody will lose one, you know whatever.

797
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: But the fact that it was a division game, though,

798
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: I thought, was like double end.

799
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Speaker 2: It means a lot more.

800
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: It means a lot more. That being said after the

801
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: last night's win, this isn't what they asked, but like.

802
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: You're in a great spot.

803
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: Boys.

804
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: The Chargers now the Raiders next week, they beat the Raiders.

805
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: They're three and oh, three division wins to start the year.

806
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, they're a really good ship.

807
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's really good. Two game leaders, two division

808
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: wins to start the year. If they beat the Raiders

809
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: last next they.

810
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: Who did beat last night? They beat the Raiders last night.

811
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Speaker 2: They beat the Raiders last night. Sorry they have backwards. Sorry.

812
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they could be three and oh in the division,

813
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: and as of right now, they have a two game

814
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: lead and the tiebreaker over the Chiefs, who would division

815
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 3: every years.

816
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: Right, if you start out three and oh, all three

817
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: of those in division, that's a massive benefit. It would

818
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: almost be shocking if they didn't make the playoffs at

819
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: that point.

820
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: Now. I know why the NFL screwed them over and

821
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: did that is because the Chiefs sell and maybe Taylor

822
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: Swift will be there or you know, I mean people

823
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: will watch the game with the Chiefs involved, and.

824
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: The Chargers would never admit this either, But let's not

825
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: kid ourselves.

826
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Speaker 3: They're homefeld fantags.

827
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: They're playing, they're playing neutral site bowl games for their

828
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: home I mean it's.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the only team they'd have done it.

830
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: At best, They've got fifty fifty percent of the crowd there,

831
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like playing a bowl game between

832
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State and Notre Dame and the crowd

833
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: split fifty fifty. That's what it's like going to games

834
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: at so far.

835
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Speaker 3: Like if the Chargers owner called up Goodell and be like, Hey,

836
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: you're doing us rotten, and I'd be like, what's a

837
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: pill up your stadium? You know, like you don't have

838
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: a lot of legs to stay in.

839
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Speaker 2: On, but go there in November. It's going to be

840
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: seventy percent terrible towels in that place. And I know

841
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: that the Steeler fan base does that a lot. But

842
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: that is like that happens a lot to those to

843
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: those LA teams there, I think particularly the Chargers as

844
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: well too.

845
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: But back to the tweet, I hope this isn't a

846
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: trend where Division games where you lose a road game happens. Again.

847
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: Tom tweets us and says, can you guys remember the

848
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: last time the Steelers came out and just out schemed

849
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: their opponents and beat their opponents via a game plan. Listen,

850
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: I this is one thing to me, I absolutely think

851
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: there's fair criticism there. Yeah, ye, yeah, But I also

852
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: like we pointed to this throughout the offseason when we

853
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: every time we would talk about the slow starts for

854
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: the offense and the defense in that first quarter point differential,

855
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: we'd also point to the third quarter point differentially.

856
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

857
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know that that hasn't been a strength

858
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: a feather in the Steelers cap yet this year through

859
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: two games, but it was last year they were the

860
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: best in the league in the third quarter. That means something.

861
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: That means your coaches. Yeah, when they have those fifteen

862
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: minutes to go into the locker room and get on

863
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: the grease board and change some stuff up, that means

864
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: that they know what they're doing in those scenarios. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you could succeed in that environment

866
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: so much and be a complete dufas in the game

867
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: plan entering the first quarter. Yeah, but clearly there is

868
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: there's some things there that they got to iron out

869
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: without a doubt.

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00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this tweet implies that, boy, they just get

871
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: out coached and out schemed every day and every play.

872
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's.

873
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: The that's not the case. Is that the case at times? Certainly? Absolutely,

874
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: But that happens to every coaching stat.

875
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of it's when you really

876
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: scrutinize one team, you can see the negatives here. Why

877
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: didn't they have an answer for that? Or why was

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00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: there a linebacker on Keenan Allen? Like it happens to everybody,

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00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: but I understand the where they're coming from. The other

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00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: thing I would throw out there now, the last two

881
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: games against the Ravens don't hold up here, but they

882
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: were really, really really good against Lamar for a long

883
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: stretch when nobody else when nobody else was and that

884
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: was scheme.

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00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: That's directly related to scheme, that game plan. That's a

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00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: that's a great, a great example for you to pull

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00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: in there. Last one Steeler Nation nine twenty says, I

888
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: hate to say it, but I feel like our defense

889
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: has not been truly shut down since Dick Lebow. A

890
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: couple things there this year, A couple of things there.

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: One I would hesitate to compare defenses now to the Dicklobo.

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00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 3: I say they don't exist. They don't, they don't.

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00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: I think the last, the last truly elite defense we

894
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: saw in the NFL was in twenty fifteen, that Broncos

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00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: defense that won the Super Bowl with Von Miller in

896
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: paid ten years last year, which is ten years now,

897
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: that's the last what I would call truly great defense

898
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Lebau had plenty and he was awesome, and

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00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: those defenses were awesome.

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00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: I'll also say this though, the Steelers defense in twenty

902
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 2: nineteen was elite. It was the best in the National

903
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: Football League. That was the year where they had Duck

904
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: where Ben went out six quarters into the season with

905
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: the elbow. They went back and forth between Mason and Duck.

906
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: They were eight and five at one point, and then

907
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: those last three games of the year they just I

908
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: think the defense like kind of held the damn off

909
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: for so long before it before it broke. But the

910
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: defense was elite in twenty and nineteen.

911
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: They escaped that year with a winning round.

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00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: That's how they ended up being eight and eight five

913
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: because I think that was the last year before the

914
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: additional game, if I'm remembering correctly, But that defense was

915
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: the best in the league point blank period. Stefan Towett

916
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: was still playing at a high level. TJ. Watt was

917
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: hitting the prime of his career. Cam Hayward was in

918
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: the prime of his career. That twenty nineteen defense was great.

919
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: I would be more, you know, looking into how can

920
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: they get back to that form? That defense was outstanding.

921
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: And since Lebou they've definitely had some top five to

922
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: six seven defenses in the league too. I mean they've

923
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: been good on that.

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Side of the ball, yes, And I will also say.

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00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: In those last two games were bad tation.

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Speaker 2: They had a lot better offensive years in that time,

927
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Speaker 2: like some of those Ben Bell Brown years. I mean

928
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: those were some of the best Steelers offenses in franchise history.

929
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Speaker 3: To help the d even too, exactly right, And.

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00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: That's kind of how the pendulum swings. Is when you've

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Speaker 2: got Ben, you've got Brown, you've got Bell, you're spending

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Speaker 2: in de Castro and Pouncy and you're spending your money

933
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Speaker 2: on the OFFENSI side of the football. Now that pendulum

934
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: has swung back to Hayward and Watt and Ramsey and

935
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: high Smith, and your your money is on the defensive side,

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Speaker 2: and you've got a lot of young guys on the

937
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: offensive side of the foot. But yeah, I I don't

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Speaker 2: think we will ever see You take those early two

939
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Speaker 2: thousands Ravens defenses, like the two thousand and eight, two

940
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, twenty ten Steelers defenses, you ain't gonna

941
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: see that. Especially there's those Seahawks and Broncos defenses a

942
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: few years after. You're just not gonna see those in

943
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Speaker 2: the NFL.

944
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 3: You're not gonna and definitely knocking back to like eighty

945
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: five Bears or seventy six Steelers. I mean, like those

946
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: days are done.

947
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: It's just the way the games are judicated now.

948
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Speaker 3: Because people want points, and they want to bet overs,

949
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: and they want to in fantasy, and it sells, you know.

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00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Right, the ending between the Giants and the Jets sells

951
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: a lot better than a a seven to fourteen fight,

952
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: you know, first one to ten. As much as we're

953
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: not saying that's the style of football that we prefer,

954
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: the casual sports fan that is gonna, you know, tip

955
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: those scales for NFL viewership once to see offense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just about every rule change that's happened since

957
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Speaker 3: Lebau retired favors the offense.

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Speaker 2: We in the last offseason, Motes and I had the

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00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: push push should they ban it on versation show, and

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00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Motes was like, absolutely not. He's like, but the only

961
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Speaker 2: thing I'll say is every rule change that we do

962
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: is for the offense. It wouldn't be terrible to do

963
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: one for the defense there this time around, but I

964
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Speaker 2: do not think that that is going to be the case.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody who chimed in on Twitter, thanks to

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Speaker 2: our YouTube video producer mister TV, and a big shout out.

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Speaker 3: To the joined us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's exactly right. Sorry, I was doing a brain

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Speaker 2: fart there trying to remember who our guest was, Chris

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Speaker 2: Adamski guest every day. Now tomorrow we will have Chris

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Speaker 2: Hallick join us, and we'll start to turn the page

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Speaker 2: a little bit from Seattle and begin to look ahead

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Speaker 2: to the upcoming clash with the New England Patriots. For

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, I'm wesh Uler. Take care. Everybody, you've been

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