WEBVTT - BA Q&A: How Do I Prepare For A Recession?

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into we got some fun money questions today.

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<v Speaker 1>You excited? I am. Let's start with listener TD A

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<v Speaker 1>bank fame. I don't know all right, TD says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>ba team, I love the show and love you too,

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<v Speaker 1>doube Queens. I'm so glad Tiffany's Backish, I've been praying

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and I've led two book clubs with getgu

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<v Speaker 1>with money Woo woo. A stand Yes, while I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to remain anonymous, Yes, TD is your pen name.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you will consider this question for the Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A. First, I'm not even gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>my four oh one K or my roths, which I've

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<v Speaker 1>totaled about three hundred and fifty to four hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the good old days aka two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm locked in for the ride until I'm fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. In time is on my side. This

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<v Speaker 1>is so true. Second, my emergency fund is about thirty K,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about six to eight months of expenses right

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<v Speaker 1>now in a high yield savings account. My house and

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<v Speaker 1>cars are paid in full. I have about sixty K

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<v Speaker 1>and three mutual funds that are being hammered right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had fifteen K and losses since Friday. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a goal of having one hundred thousand dollars in my

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<v Speaker 1>emergency fund in the next one to two years. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be closer and feel a bit more secure if I

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<v Speaker 1>can move fifty K to my emergency fund. I'd also

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<v Speaker 1>like to purchase ten K and I bonds. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>my question. Would it be unwise to move the mutual

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<v Speaker 1>funds to my high yield savings and replenish them later

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<v Speaker 1>by continuing to invest in the downturn? Here's the caveat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of taking an adult gap year or global

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<v Speaker 1>nomadding in mid twenty twenty three, and I'd plan to

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<v Speaker 1>liquidate my mutual funds for that life event next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Any perspective you could offer would be great. Thanks, Ned,

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<v Speaker 1>advance ted first and foremost. TV is impressive girl, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can we look? Can we stand for this system? Right here?

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<v Speaker 1>We can stand? Yes, four hunderd K in her four

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<v Speaker 1>oh one K. Yes, emergency fund, six to eight months

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<v Speaker 1>of expenses saved in the high yield savings, house and

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<v Speaker 1>car paid in full. Boom boom damn. She should have

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<v Speaker 1>co written Good with Money, No, not just led the

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<v Speaker 1>book clubs, I feel like, but she's so, I get

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<v Speaker 1>this sense. She's basically so, she's talking about her investment

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<v Speaker 1>account outside of her four oh one K. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>got like a brokerage account and she's got sixty K

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<v Speaker 1>in there where she's being invested. She's been investing in

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<v Speaker 1>mutual funds, which are being hammered right now, aren't we

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Yes? And she wants to know if she,

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<v Speaker 1>if she, if, what would we think about her dipping

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<v Speaker 1>into that brokerage account, selling those investments and then selling

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars worth of those investments and putting them

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<v Speaker 1>in her emergency fund and then using the ten K

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<v Speaker 1>of those funds two or ten K of her investments

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<v Speaker 1>that are in mutual funds right now, liquidating them and

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing eye bonds instead. Good question, juicy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know one, you're thinking, well one, I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the fact, is you you for even okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You found them back. I'm stuttering because I'm like, my

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<v Speaker 2>miscreaction is like leave it alone, Sis, But you do

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<v Speaker 2>have a special case because Sis got going on her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, her retirement accounts looking cute and good. She

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the major debt that everyone else has. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you probably don't have credit card debt either, because siss,

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<v Speaker 2>house paid off, car paid off, you sound a good

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<v Speaker 2>credit card debt free CISK. And then the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you have your your emergency fund funded six to eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>So normally i'd be like, no, leave it alone, but ugh,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know what the market is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you've already lost ten to fifteen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and it might get worse or I guess my concern

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<v Speaker 2>is locking in the loss versus taking your money and run. Normally,

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<v Speaker 2>if you weren't going to take this money so that

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<v Speaker 2>way you could know mad in mid two thousand, mid

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, i'd be like, leave it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't lock in the loss by drawing your money.

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<v Speaker 2>But because it's for something specific, I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do it, I'm not going to stand

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<v Speaker 1>in your oasis.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't tell nobody I told you, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, normally, i'd be like, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But because you have so you're so strong everywhere else financially. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because my concern is this recession is not looking like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not looking like what the last mini recession looked like,

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<v Speaker 2>which was like an instant bounce back, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it went down the right back up again. It's looking

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<v Speaker 2>like it's only gonna get worse before it gets better,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just don't know how much how much worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So I A'm mad at you. I'm mad at you

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<v Speaker 2>because you have the rest of your financial life together.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to do it, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>might see me right alongside with you. You see me now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say, ooh, you have to tell me nothing now

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<v Speaker 2>that I am recording in the upstate New York instead

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<v Speaker 2>of my house. But I'm like, oh, look at me

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<v Speaker 2>traveling and doing the Paul guests, so you might have

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<v Speaker 2>me right along with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited for you to do the show on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a camel in Jordan, but that didn't happen. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that's really not happening. Ah, this is really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so timely right. So, and she's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was thinking she wants to basically take

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<v Speaker 1>this money out of the market so to so snatch

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<v Speaker 1>it up while she still can before she loses even more.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's important here and the reason you're giving the

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<v Speaker 1>advice you are, and I want to make it clear

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<v Speaker 1>to our audience. It's different than what we usually would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Her time horizon is so much shorter now. She's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about she was wanting to use this money for mid

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. That's only a year away. And she

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<v Speaker 1>had planned to use this money to global nomad, which

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible, right, that's only a year away. And like

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<v Speaker 1>what Tiffany is saying is with the way that trends

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<v Speaker 1>are showing right now, things may get worse before they

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<v Speaker 1>get better. It's possible that if she were to leave

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<v Speaker 1>it tied up in mutual funds in the market. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just assume I don't know what the mutual funds are holding,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's assume they're all stock index fund or things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Tracking the S and P. It's looking like

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<v Speaker 1>things will get worse before they get better, so she

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<v Speaker 1>could lose even more. She needs the money in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be different if this was what the money that

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<v Speaker 1>she was investing for her retirement. She's got that in

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<v Speaker 1>a separate bucket. Retirement bucket is looking amazing four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>K in a four to one K, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>her you know, her wealth building fund on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I can I can understand Tiff why you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying what you're saying. It's scary to me still, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's really scary to me still. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that she's I like that she's doing the eyebonds. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, you know, so what are let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some ways to yield a higher return out of the

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<v Speaker 1>stock market. So if she's gonna take sixty k out

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<v Speaker 1>of this fund, then what could she do? I think

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<v Speaker 1>ten k and I bonds is great. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>eyebonds a few weeks ago. They're getting super sexy and

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<v Speaker 1>exciting now because they guarantee I think a nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>nine point sixty two percent. At the time, I should

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<v Speaker 1>double check that they are meant to hedge against inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>and with inflation being as high as it is, the

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<v Speaker 1>interest rate on ebonds was like over nine percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's guaranteed. You can contribute ten k per year in

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<v Speaker 1>an ibond. So if you want go back and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to that episode we talk all about it. That's smart,

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<v Speaker 1>but an emergency savings fun. I mean I did get

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<v Speaker 1>an alert from my online only bank that the savings

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<v Speaker 1>rate is going to be going up I think two

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<v Speaker 1>point nine percent or one percent now, which is hoo exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>But at least look into CDs. I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what CD rates are right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, CDs can make sense if you are okay

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<v Speaker 1>with tying up your money for a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's CDs as short as like three or

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<v Speaker 1>six months, sometimes as long as I don't know, five, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years. You're going to need your money in the

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<v Speaker 1>next year, so see what twelve month CD rates kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look like. You may not need. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>need some money at the beginning, sorry, some money next

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<v Speaker 1>year when you start your travels. You may not need

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<v Speaker 1>it all at once, though, So there's something called a

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<v Speaker 1>CD ladder where you can choose CDs of different links

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<v Speaker 1>so that they mature and you can withdraw the funds

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<v Speaker 1>in a staggered pace. So you could do a six

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<v Speaker 1>month CD, at twelve month CD at eighteen month CD

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty four months CD to kind of like carry

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<v Speaker 1>you through your travels, and then each time they mature

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<v Speaker 1>you can withdraw the funds and then you know your

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<v Speaker 1>money will have grown, probably not at an enormously amazing

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<v Speaker 1>rate because rates are still pretty low but better than

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<v Speaker 1>what you may get from an emergency fund. And because

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<v Speaker 1>they are CDs, they're held by FDIC insured institutions, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have security there as well, like you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose your money, which is of course different to

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<v Speaker 1>money you lose in the stock market, because nothing we

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<v Speaker 1>can do about all that. No, that's really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that because it's like it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good mix of our innate girlly that money alone.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I get it because you've done everything else

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<v Speaker 2>really responsibly and you deserve to no mad if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to know bad, especially with what's happening in USA

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<v Speaker 2>the USAA, but to do so in a way you

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<v Speaker 2>know that you know where you get to make a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of money on your money. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting you know, in your in your savings account. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's that's brilliant. Let us know where you planning

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<v Speaker 2>on going, CYS. I would love to hear, right, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to be your friend, I know, right. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you want to come on because she sounds dope.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a third co host. I don't know that's incredible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>good try, I mean, good luck. That's so exciting, and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about setting goals and then going out and freaking

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<v Speaker 1>reach them. Didn't even mention that she still has thirty

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<v Speaker 1>K and her emergency fund on the side too, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's covering literally all her bases. Yes, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>also end this with this might be a good one

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<v Speaker 1>time meet with a financial planner to get a strategy

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<v Speaker 1>in place. I think maybe TIF and I can help

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<v Speaker 1>you with like the beginnings of thinking about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would love I mean, you can probably get a

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<v Speaker 1>financial planner to talk to you, you know, as an

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<v Speaker 1>initial call, just to like strategize this particular instance of

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<v Speaker 1>your money, just to get that extra you know, professional opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can look at your whole picture very carefully

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<v Speaker 1>and give you real specific advice in that case exactly for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you could do that. Yeah, all right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take a quick break and come back with

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<v Speaker 1>another of your questions? This is a ba Q and A.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're black. Get back.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to read this one? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Our next question is from Chanel. I hope you don't

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<v Speaker 2>mindus using your name because you didn't say it was anonymous.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hi, my name is Chanelle and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>quick question with tales of the recession coming, what should

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<v Speaker 2>we be doing to prepare? If this was already answered

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<v Speaker 2>in a podcast episode, would you be able to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me which one? Thanks for your help, so now we

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<v Speaker 2>might have but cis with what's going on now we've

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<v Speaker 2>find to answer it again. Okay, So how should people prepare?

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<v Speaker 2>And how are you preparing, Mandy for the upcoming recession?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's like a party, like, all, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing what you know for the recession? Girl? Over?

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<v Speaker 1>There is recession girl summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a thing? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing is. That's one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>this week I held a free workshop called Recession Proof

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<v Speaker 1>your Career, because I believe very strongly that so much

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<v Speaker 1>of our career is the root of our financial of

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<v Speaker 1>the ability for ourselves to grow our finances. So professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do to sort of hedge against recessions

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<v Speaker 1>and tough economic times are to always be investing in

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<v Speaker 1>your own skills and the value you bring to companies.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who will be in most danger of being

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<v Speaker 1>cut you know, and if companies do decide to downsize,

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<v Speaker 1>they as they have been doing, are the ones whose

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<v Speaker 1>skills can be easily replaced or automated. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>you bringing to the table that is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>you super valuable? And maybe you are released from your job,

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<v Speaker 1>but will other people be looking for someone with your

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<v Speaker 1>skills and talents? Sometimes people are laid off through no

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<v Speaker 1>fault of their own or not because the company doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need their skills. But companies just got to make their

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<v Speaker 1>They got to make the books. You know, the math

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<v Speaker 1>has to math for Wall Street to be happy with them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they make these drastic cuts. Doesn't mean that your

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<v Speaker 1>skills are not needed? But will other companies want them?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm always thinking about, like, what are the skills

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<v Speaker 1>that I have today? And then will multiple companies be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in me? I think that's a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself some professional security. Don't wait until times are

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<v Speaker 1>difficult either to actually reach out to your network and

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<v Speaker 1>to keep your network warm, because it's a lot harder

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to folks for help or for referrals

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<v Speaker 1>or for like help you know, getting a job or

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot when things are really dicey and everyone's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stressed out. I think it's better to cultivate those relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, always. And I think our previous question too,

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<v Speaker 1>was a really good example of like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to look at your where you have your money

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<v Speaker 1>now and doesn't make the most sense for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you? And I think it's a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>like be restructuring your investments if you're overly risky, Like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your risk tolerance for investing in the stock market

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<v Speaker 1>is not as strong as you thought it was, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't sleep, you know, and you have so much

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<v Speaker 1>of your investments tied up in stocks, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to rethink that maybe you're getting older or you

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, can't handle the anxiety, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>need to shift some over into less risky investments. Like

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<v Speaker 1>our last listener, she asked about eyebonds. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>other forms of bonds you could purchase as well that

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<v Speaker 1>are protected, you know, high yield savings CDs, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a there's a bunch you can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, TI, Well, I would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, I need you to figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>your noodle budget is I mean, this is when I

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<v Speaker 2>survived the two thousand and nine session. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake that I made that I did not quickly drop

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<v Speaker 2>down and get your noodle on girl. Eh, drop down

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<v Speaker 2>and get your new girl. So your noodle budget is

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<v Speaker 2>like think back, like if you had to eat Ramen

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<v Speaker 2>noodles like college, right, Meaning if I look at my

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<v Speaker 2>budget and let's just say, my life cost me five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a month mortgage, car know everything, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>it also includes like hair done, nails and everything did,

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<v Speaker 2>but my life could potentially cost me four thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month if I cut out the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>not necessities. Right. So I'm not saying you should live

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<v Speaker 2>at your noodle budget, but you should know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That way, if really the shit hits the van, for

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<v Speaker 2>lack of a better word, then you know instantly what

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<v Speaker 2>you can cut out. You know, because too many people

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<v Speaker 2>were losing their homes and still had cable. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I say too many people, I am people. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was still face like one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred and something dollars a month for cable and I

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<v Speaker 2>lost my home to foreclosure, and it was like, not

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<v Speaker 2>that one hundred something dollars a month would have saved

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<v Speaker 2>my house. It wasn't about the house at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>That was grocery money for me, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>other bills that could have been paid. So one identify

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<v Speaker 2>your noodle budget. You don't have to drop down to

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<v Speaker 2>it yet, but just know if times get tough, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one of the things. Something else too, is

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes you have to identify even more than your

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<v Speaker 2>noodle budget.

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<v Speaker 1>I call it my health and safety budget.

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<v Speaker 2>So noodle budget is I can still pay the bills,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just don't have the excess. My health and

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<v Speaker 2>safety budget is what I had to drop down to

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<v Speaker 2>when I lost my job during the recession, the two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine recession, and I lost my house to foreclosure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is really really struggling, and the health and safety

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<v Speaker 2>budget is ain't nobody getting paid unless it supports my

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<v Speaker 2>health and my safety. That meant they were people like

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<v Speaker 2>my credit cards that were late, and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>be okay with that because nothing is I am more

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<v Speaker 2>important than my bills. I had to call the credit

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<v Speaker 2>card companies and say, hey, I don't have it right

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<v Speaker 2>now because I'm going to get my abs, my medicine instead,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make sure that I have enough for

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<v Speaker 2>this place where I have to live, so I'm not homeless.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm going to have enough to I can eat.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's levels. There's your regular budget, which you're

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<v Speaker 2>likely living at now. Great, Know what your noodle budget is,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you have to drop down to that, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just the non bells and whistles budget, great, Then

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<v Speaker 2>know your health and safety budget, whereas it means that

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<v Speaker 2>some bills won't get paid because you have to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of your health and safety. So really understanding your

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<v Speaker 2>tears and doing so, but also too. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why I wrote We're going to do I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done a GetGo of Money plug in a long time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my New York Times bestselling book Gets Good with Money.

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<v Speaker 2>But honestly, one of the reasons why I wrote it

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<v Speaker 2>was in response to how I struggled during the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine and ten recession. I wanted to create this holistic

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<v Speaker 2>look of your money that I call financial homeness, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is these ten components of your personal finances that

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<v Speaker 2>will allow you to see you through the good and

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<v Speaker 2>the bad, and so focusing on your financial holeness honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>So that is so here are the ten components budgeting, savings, debt, credit,

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<v Speaker 2>learning to earn. So that's like financial hollness one oh one,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the core foundation, and then financial holness one oh

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<v Speaker 2>two is investing for both retirement and wealth. Right, it

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<v Speaker 2>is your insurance, it is your money team, your net

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<v Speaker 2>worth and estate planning. So I would focus on the

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<v Speaker 2>first five components of financial holness, like really tightening up

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<v Speaker 2>on your budget, on your savings, plan on lowering your debt,

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<v Speaker 2>and managing your credit and learning to earn. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need help with that, you can go head

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<v Speaker 2>on over to get Good with Money dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and scoop that book up. No, but honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I wrote that book, and honestly, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>an accumulation of the work that I do, which is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really here to help you to build this financial

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<v Speaker 2>foundation so you can see your way through the most

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<v Speaker 2>difficult parts of your financial journey and you're in your

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<v Speaker 2>life's journey as it relates to your money. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I would suggest, understanding your tears, really working

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<v Speaker 2>on this financial homeness part and also not purchasing any

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<v Speaker 2>big ticket items unless you are really solid with your dead,

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<v Speaker 2>your your your investments, you know your you have your

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<v Speaker 2>retirement fund, you have your six to twelve months worth

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<v Speaker 2>of of an emergency fund. I would not be buying

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<v Speaker 2>like a big ticket item right now because you might

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<v Speaker 2>need that money to survive through this. So just keep

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<v Speaker 2>those things in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Chanelle doesn't mention much about her assets and

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<v Speaker 1>how much she hasn't She hasn't mentioned anything boy her dad,

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<v Speaker 1>her or her cash on hand. But for those who

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<v Speaker 1>have the means and for those who have a long

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<v Speaker 1>time horizon, I would not want y'all to stop investing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is my advice with a lowercase A,

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<v Speaker 1>not an investment. But if you have the means and

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<v Speaker 1>you know our previous are I almost had previous caller,

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<v Speaker 1>our previous question from listener TD who has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do something with her investments next year. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a very short time horizon. Yeah, snatch that money up

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<v Speaker 1>and do something else with it. But if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a long if you're investing for retirement, things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, keep investing. Things are cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>look at it that way, you can buy more shares

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<v Speaker 1>of companies now than maybe you could you know, months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was one of the great lessons I learned

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<v Speaker 1>post recession of two thousand and eight, thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was laid off in twenty ten as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of that, like several years it took for that

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<v Speaker 1>whole recession to just like chill out, and I learned

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<v Speaker 1>then like investing even during tough times, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>benefited me enormously, you know, investing through the pandemic, investing

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<v Speaker 1>through my early years in my career, which was post

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<v Speaker 1>eight crisis. It's just hard to give that specific advice

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<v Speaker 1>to you, missionel So I don't know all your business,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you have a professional advice or who does,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can certainly help you. There. You mentioned credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt to Tiffany. I was reading something about how

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<v Speaker 1>Americans are, like credit card debt is starting to rise,

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<v Speaker 1>which is concerning, right, I mean, non surprised things are

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<v Speaker 1>so much more expensive, Like, and there's a there's this

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<v Speaker 1>calculator that I want to share with y'all. I get

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<v Speaker 1>to find a link to it. It's like your personal

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<v Speaker 1>inflation calculator, and it helps, I think, give a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it helps give important perspective to how not everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is in Not everyone is feeling this inflation at the

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<v Speaker 1>same pace as other people. It really depends on your lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 1>your household size, whether you're renting, whether you're owning a home,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need a car, like and your personal inflation

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<v Speaker 1>rate can be so much higher than what we all

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<v Speaker 1>say is like, oh, eight percent. No, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>double triple that, depending on what you're going to give you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I drove down here. I drove to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Upstate New York from from Newark because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>typically I don't drive. I work from home, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was not to the sting of paying for gas

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<v Speaker 2>because honestly, like the whole foods I go to is

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<v Speaker 2>in Newark. You know, my sister lives around the corner

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<v Speaker 2>my other you know, everything is so close until like

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<v Speaker 2>the tank finally got to eat and I filled it up.

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<v Speaker 2>When the man told me ninety five dollars, I looked like, who.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he talking to?

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<v Speaker 2>Not me? What did you That's cause I put I

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<v Speaker 2>put I put up.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you driving? What are you driving?

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<v Speaker 2>Jerell has a Lincoln mk Z. I don't know one

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<v Speaker 2>of these big cars. I'm holding for Alyssa that she

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<v Speaker 2>wants for when she turns like I guess seventeen or eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so she can crash the car because that's what they

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<v Speaker 2>all do. But so I gave my sister my car.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I gave my sister my car, and I

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<v Speaker 2>kept Jerell's car, which is kind of a it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big car. But he was always like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you always put premium gas or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this thing's about to get some water, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I filled it up and I was like what,

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<v Speaker 2>Because the truth is, I never really looked like I

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<v Speaker 2>just go to the gas station. Back when I was

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<v Speaker 2>driving a lot, like I used to live in South

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey and I would drive all the way to Newerk,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew exactly the cheap gas stations because I'm like no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no, no no. And I was driving like a little like

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<v Speaker 2>Nissan Ultima, and so I could put like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rocks and stones and that thing could drive. So but

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<v Speaker 2>I like, because I hardly ever drive, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>looking at prices. I just pulled up, was like fill

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<v Speaker 2>it up. And I was like I'm sorry, what or

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<v Speaker 2>did you just ask for a car not So to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, Mandy, about the inflation hits people differently, someone

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<v Speaker 2>like me who doesn't drive very often. You know, I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the inflation of gas has not hit

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<v Speaker 2>me as hard because I'm not you know, filling up

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<v Speaker 2>my tank as much. So just being mindful of your

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle and asking yourself, you know, if you had to

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<v Speaker 2>cut back or if you had to make more, start

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<v Speaker 2>planning out what does that look like now? Because that

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<v Speaker 2>might be coming. And so it's like, Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to, I could do this or I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I could do this, Because I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 2>one of my friends, Cabrel, today about ways that he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, I'm really good at this, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this and this, and I call that the bank. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the bank is an area in my life that I

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<v Speaker 2>could bank on making money. Like if things got really tight,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say. You know, everybody hates the budgetista, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I could do one on once and I could bank

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<v Speaker 2>on that and say, hey, you know, people do want

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down with me with your personal finances and

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<v Speaker 2>so like that's like I remember, Mandy, when you first

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<v Speaker 2>started your business, your bank was you know, you were

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<v Speaker 2>an editor and you're like I can I can write,

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<v Speaker 2>I can edit. It may not be my fave, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know I can bank on that skill set and

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<v Speaker 2>make money in PROCP. You know, so ask yourself too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for those listening, like, do you have something

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<v Speaker 2>you can bank on?

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<v Speaker 1>For me?

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I was teaching preschool, my bank was I

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<v Speaker 2>could tutor, I could babysit. You know, the bank might

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<v Speaker 2>be driving uber like, what does that look like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to do it now, but identifying that

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<v Speaker 2>it's certainly going to help. So if you need to

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<v Speaker 2>tap into it, it's the aren't ready for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. It's almost like a noodle budget for

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<v Speaker 1>your career or your professional skills. What's your I work

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<v Speaker 1>on that? But that's really smart. I love that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be clear too, we're not technically in an official

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<v Speaker 1>recession yet, but I think it's the slow burn of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole painful situation, is that there is time to

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<v Speaker 1>make changes now that could definitely prepare you if it

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<v Speaker 1>came to that. And if you know, a year or

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<v Speaker 1>two from now, you personally are affected by the down

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<v Speaker 1>this downturn that we're going through right now. So yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I love what Tiff said, your noodle budget, beefing up

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<v Speaker 1>your savings, paying down your debt, just those good fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you don't have your big get

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<v Speaker 1>good with money picture behind you right now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do have the book back there. If you guys can

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<v Speaker 1>see go ahead and to get Good Money dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get you a copy for really really now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is the time to really lock in on the fundamentals,

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<v Speaker 2>the financial fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah, that's the like, what is it twenty bucks now?

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