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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, Welcome to The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Bridesmaid reunion pick that

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Speaker 1: went viral this week at the Oscars and how one

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Speaker 1: actress from the movie had a very good reason for

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Speaker 1: missing the photo app Then we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: a woman who has been dubbed Australia's most tattooed woman,

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Speaker 1: who said she was going to have dozens of tattoos

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Speaker 1: removed from her body, but then got freaked out over

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Speaker 1: the thought of having clear skin. Since we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: about cosmetic procedures, we're going to get into concerns over

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Speaker 1: these chain cosmetic surgery centers. Then we'll talk about a

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Speaker 1: woman who killed her mother in the most gruesome way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking gruesome like she m I mean, she

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Speaker 1: murdered her, but then she essentially gave her an autopsy,

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Speaker 1: then dismembered her and then cooked her. Yes, she cooked

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Speaker 1: her mother. Then we'll talk about an unusual surgery that

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Speaker 1: was done on a cancer patient which may have helped

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Speaker 1: extend her life. All that and more on Teddy's episode Bridesmaids.

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Speaker 1: I love that movie. It's classic.

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Speaker 2: I love it too. I can't believe it came out

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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Thank God. Absolutely crazy but okay, So

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Speaker 2: at the Oscars they did a reunion on stage of

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Speaker 2: the cast, but noticeably Wendy mclennin Covey was not there,

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Speaker 2: so of course everybody started thinking she had drama with

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Speaker 2: the cast, and then she posted, oh no, I wasn't

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Speaker 2: there because I just had a necklift because I'm tired

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Speaker 2: of looking like a melts with candle.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 2: Tell me who did your necklift?

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Speaker 1: And if you like it, because I want it.

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Speaker 2: She's super cool. I mean, she was in Rito nioa

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Speaker 2: one every single thing she is, and she is so

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Speaker 2: hilarious in Bridesmaids in particular, she is so funny and

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Speaker 2: she's pretty down to earth. If you've ever heard interviews

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Speaker 2: with her after.

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Speaker 1: She's the one that like was married and was on

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Speaker 1: the plane and was like getting drunk and stuff. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remember she's like I cracked the blanket in half,

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Speaker 2: like talking about her sons and you like it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That movie is just that was kind of like

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Speaker 1: a like groundbreaking comedy of inappropriateness. That was just like

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Speaker 1: when when she had to like shit in the sink.

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Speaker 2: It was just like so good. I'm pretty sure when

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Speaker 2: that movie came out they won Best Screenplay or something

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Speaker 2: where they were at least nominated for it, and then

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Speaker 2: they had them come out and present best Song. It

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Speaker 2: made no sense. Why wouldn't they come out and present

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Speaker 2: Best Screenplay? Well maybe kind of stupid.

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Speaker 1: Maybe because oh for that well, maybe didn't they win

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Speaker 1: something because of that song they did at the end

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Speaker 1: with the Wilson Phillips and stuff been that.

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Speaker 2: I've always watched the Oscars, but I've been like more

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Speaker 2: religious about it in the last couple of years. I

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Speaker 2: feel like before I'd only watched a red carpet and

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Speaker 2: then not the actual ceremony, where now I do both.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, like I felt asleep.

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Speaker 1: Why do you watch it? I'm just curious, Like, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you've actually seen any movie that

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Speaker 1: was nominated this time, Like, what is it that is

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Speaker 2: I actually did not see a single movie nominated this

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Speaker 2: year except for Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Typically I do watch at least a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Park Part fifteen was actually nominated for something for.

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Speaker 2: Best Visual Effects, which I don't think it won. I

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Speaker 2: thought the movie was Scarlett Johanson and Jonathan Bailey was

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Speaker 2: pretty good. Actually, I don't mind any of the new

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Speaker 2: Jurassic Park. I actually lead them a lot. So I

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Speaker 2: didn't see any of the movies, which I think it's

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Speaker 2: speak to how irrelevant some of these or not some

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Speaker 2: watch the Golden Globes or the Emmys, I've seen almost

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Speaker 2: every single show that's nominated. I'm just more into watching

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Speaker 2: these series. Well it's irrelevant to you. Well, I'm saying

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Speaker 2: to like, people don't want to get canceled, like Timothy

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Speaker 2: like I go to the movies, but not as often

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Speaker 1: So I I enjoy movies because I don't watch TV

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Speaker 1: I actually did my due diligence and watch every film

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Speaker 1: this year, and I just did not agree with the decision.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't even think it's like lacking from

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Speaker 1: after Another that won the Best Picture this year, and

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Speaker 1: that what Jacob Olardi was nominated for? You watched that

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch it because it looks so terrible, and

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Speaker 2: then you said it was terrible, and they they ended

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Speaker 2: up winning I think for makeup and costumes, which makeup

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Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't look good. I thought, like, when I think

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Speaker 1: about Frankenstein's Monster and the way that it was created,

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Speaker 1: I think about literally decomposed body parts sewn together. Like

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Speaker 1: that's my vision because that's what they said happened, right,

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Speaker 1: So like and him having like this this yellow color

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Speaker 1: like Avatar. It looked like Avatar, I think, And I

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Speaker 1: think that that guy is like a gorgeous specimen. Oh

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Speaker 1: he is, like he is but from fun He's he

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Speaker 1: he's like very he's just like a really good looking guy.

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Speaker 1: But like, I mean, you couldn't tell because he was

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Speaker 1: wearing that stupid Avatar costume. So like, I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: that it didn't win for the plot because it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess it won because other things

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess just nothing else compared with it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, long story long to answer your question.

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Speaker 2: I watch it because it's a major pop culture even

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Speaker 2: and I like to watch things like that. It's like

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Speaker 2: why I watch a super Bowl. I don't give a

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Speaker 2: shit about football. I just like seeing like who's there

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Speaker 1: All right, so Bridesmaids, Yes, she's she got a neck lift,

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Speaker 1: and I imagine see I do follow a couple of these,

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Speaker 1: like plastic surgeon people that do it on the face

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Speaker 1: because I am curious because I feel like, at some

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Speaker 1: point I'm going to want to get my neck done.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I would actually do it,

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Speaker 1: or like Anne Hathaway even, I just was like watching

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Speaker 1: any scars or anything. Like if I was friends with

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Speaker 1: me too much. Wasn't there weren't you talking about recently

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Speaker 2: No so. On Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, one of

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Speaker 2: the women just had an upper blef and some other

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Speaker 2: gonna say one of the girl's moms, I don't feel

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Speaker 2: bad about talking shit about her. She's a terrible person.

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Speaker 2: She has a terrible face lift her ears. You can

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Speaker 2: see like exactly where it happened. It looks terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would scare me, but I get anyway, just

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Speaker 1: some of the surgeons that I have seen online, they

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Speaker 1: even really imagine how long it takes to be completely

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Speaker 1: Like it's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they might have only asked her like two

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Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah, like now I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: So this one's really interesting too. This most tattooed model

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Speaker 1: in Australia, most tattooed woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Amber Luke, she's been deemed Australia's most tattooed woman.

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Speaker 2: She was planning to remove all of her tattoos, but

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Speaker 2: she's now backtracked after having chat GBT create a picture

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Speaker 2: and she was so freaked out. A boy, what it

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Speaker 1: That's kind of it's it's crazy to me that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: them off? And like, why wouldn't you just put some

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Speaker 1: like without tattoos instead of like one day you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me just put this in chat che pta and

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Speaker 1: see what this looks like. And then which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: she's kind of really beautiful.

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Speaker 2: She is really beautiful, but like, we're not just talking

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Speaker 2: about somebody with a lot of tattoos. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: somebody that's crossed the line into extreme body modification. She

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Speaker 2: has her eyeballs tattooed blue.

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Speaker 1: And that to me like that and that's why I said, like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's kind of mentally off, because that,

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Speaker 1: injecting the sclearet of your eyes with tattoo inc. And

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Speaker 1: wrong with it because you have so the white of

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, but you know, people are a little bitches

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Speaker 1: You know what, maybe you did because you did you

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Speaker 2: Well, exactly, this episode is brought to you by the Grossroom.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said, we had those two posts in

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Speaker 1: this week's Funeral Friday which is going up, so we

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Speaker 1: switch back and forth between forensic and Funeral Friday. This

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Speaker 1: one is on post mortem fluid removal, which comes complete

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Speaker 1: with a video and goes you know, talks all about

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Speaker 1: what they're doing in that video and what they're looking

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Speaker 1: for and how that relates to us doing autopsy as well.

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Speaker 1: So check that out.

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Speaker 2: Head over to the grossroom dot com now to sign up.

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Speaker 2: So we had covered this story when it initially happened

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty four, but this woman is now

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Speaker 2: due in court this week. So as a reminder, this

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Speaker 2: lady allegedly shot and stabbed her mother to death before

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Speaker 2: dismembering her and cooked her body parts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so she but she not only dismembered her. She

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Speaker 1: first she killed her and then she took out her organs,

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Speaker 1: she like gave her an autopsy. Essentially, she eviscerated her

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Speaker 1: and then caught up her body parts and then cooked

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Speaker 1: her body parts. So when we first reported this, there

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Speaker 1: was some talk that maybe she was putting spells on

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Speaker 1: her mom, like the lady seemed like she was completely

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Speaker 1: out of her mind. Obviously you have to be if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do something like this. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what was what was going on there, Like you.

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Speaker 2: Say that, but she passed a psych evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I no, I'm sorry. Like this is why I'm

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Speaker 1: skeptical of that whole science because sometimes I'm just like, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. You can't do something like that

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Speaker 1: and not have something mentally wrong with you.

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Speaker 2: Well, now, so I could say when we first reported this,

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Speaker 2: there was reports that she was like doing spells on

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Speaker 2: people and that they they said that, you know, they

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Speaker 2: had a warrant for the house, and she wouldn't leave,

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Speaker 2: and they tear gas the house and she wouldn't leave

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Speaker 2: for like another eleven hours, and when she finally emerged,

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Speaker 2: she was covered in blood. So they were saying that

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Speaker 2: she was like doing drugs and that's why they did this.

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Speaker 2: And then her family's saying that she got in a

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Speaker 2: bad motorcycle accident and they think that contributed to some

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Speaker 2: brain damage. But like, I don't know, they're saying she

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Speaker 2: passed a psych evaluation.

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Speaker 1: So I have a case in the grocery room that's

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Speaker 1: a forensic Friday from back in September. That's called psychology

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Speaker 1: or psycho and it's kind of a similar case of

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Speaker 1: a mom who beat or a man who beat his

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Speaker 1: mom to death. So it was it was a child

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Speaker 1: killing a parent and the same thing they when investigators went,

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Speaker 1: they found body parts in the freezer, like in a

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Speaker 1: frying pan. These pictures are so disturbing, Like to see

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Speaker 1: a human hand in a frying pan. Yeah, like as

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Speaker 1: an investigator walking in and imagine like if you smelled

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Speaker 1: that food, cooking that food in quotes tow So Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like there's a couple cases in the gross room

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Speaker 1: of people doing this, and oftentimes when a parent kills

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Speaker 1: a child, it's it's like very gruesome, it's like extra

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Speaker 1: gruesome like this. It kind of every time this conversation

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Speaker 1: comes up about the smells and the cooking, it reminds me. It.

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Speaker 2: It just makes me think of Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbor who

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Speaker 2: was constantly reporting the egregious odors coming from his house

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Speaker 2: and how nobody was taking her serious like that.

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Speaker 1: That is a really disturbing case so which we've never

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Speaker 1: actually covered. Jeffrey Dahmer I know we talked about him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe in like the cannibal We we

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Speaker 1: did a high profile death disseection on cannibalism, so we

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Speaker 1: might never Yeah, we never did a deep dive on him,

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Speaker 1: so that could be something to look forward to in

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Speaker 1: the future. Maybe like we could maybe do like one

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Speaker 1: of our movie dissections and talk about like how it

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Speaker 1: if it's the same as the actual case, or if

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Speaker 1: they decided to change anything in it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the case itself is interesting

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Speaker 2: without even going into hell see, I might represent it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I watched a movie years ago when

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Speaker 1: I was younger that was called Dahmer. Right, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like the New One that what didn't like a series

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Speaker 1: just come out? Was it a series or a movie?

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Speaker 2: It was a Ryan Murphy series that just came out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I watched a movie I believe it was called

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Speaker 1: Dahmer like years ago when it came out, and it

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Speaker 1: scared me so much, Like I just don't even want

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Speaker 1: to think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's a scary. So it just like I.

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Speaker 1: Don't like ones that scare me like that.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the worst true crime stories ever.

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Speaker 1: It is, like sometimes it's like like the one with

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Speaker 1: Corey Richards that we've been talking about this week, Like

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Speaker 1: she killed her husband, Like I just like think that

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Speaker 1: those even though someone died and stuff, it's just like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me even a little bit. And then

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Speaker 1: there's it's isolated to their marriage, like yeah, or people

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Speaker 1: she knew. It's not like she's a threat to like

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Speaker 1: society as a wholy. This guy was a predator and

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Speaker 1: like killing young gay men and cutting them up and

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Speaker 1: cooking them and eating them. Yeah, it's just like it

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Speaker 1: just to think like that there's people that are that

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Speaker 1: sick walking around just really disturbs the hell out of me.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with this case? Her court case is

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Speaker 1: moving forward, so they've decided that she's totally mentally sound,

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Speaker 1: So she's gone through with this.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know if she totally mentally sound, but

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Speaker 2: she passed enough that they're gonna move forward with a trial.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, Well we'll stay up to

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Speaker 1: date on that.

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Speaker 2: She also got accused of intentionally torturing and killing a dog.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on in this lady's life. Like,

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Speaker 2: clearly something was happening, but.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully she's going to go to jail.

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Speaker 2: Well, we very much hope she's going to jail or

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Speaker 2: to some type of facility where she will not do

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Speaker 2: this to anybody else. All Right, A woman with stage

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Speaker 2: four cancer that had spread to her liver is now

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Speaker 2: reportedly in remission after having a partial liver transplant.

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Speaker 1: So this lady was only thirty nine years old, and

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Speaker 1: she went to the emergency room because she was dehydrated,

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Speaker 1: and they did some test on her and found out

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Speaker 1: that she had coaling cancer that was spread to her liver.

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Speaker 2: Like she had no.

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Speaker 1: Age four full blown she had no symptoms whatsoever. So

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Speaker 1: that's like one story we need to talk about is

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Speaker 1: like I just keep hearing about these alarming reports of

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Speaker 1: all of these people who are in their forties that

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Speaker 1: have coaling cancer.

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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been a direct correlation yet, and when it

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Speaker 1: finally happens, like obviously people are just like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: all the processed food we ate because like everybody that's

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Speaker 1: forty now was growing up in the eighties and nineties

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Speaker 1: when it was like the peak of processed food, Right,

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Speaker 1: it has to have something to do with that. But

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Speaker 1: like there's not a pinpoint. Okay, avoid this because we're

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Speaker 1: still eating a lot of that same process shit today, right,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to figure out what the problem

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Speaker 1: is because it's like doctors are actually saying that they're

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Speaker 1: seeing more cases in young people than they're seeing in

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Speaker 1: old people right now, which is alarming. So yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: so and then the numbers and the statistics are just changing,

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Speaker 1: like I think in general, there's less cases of colon cancer,

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Speaker 1: but more cases of younger people having colon cancer. So

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Speaker 1: so anyway, and we were just talking about that like

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Speaker 1: last week because of the Vanderbeek guy just died from

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Speaker 1: colon cancer at a pretty young age.

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Speaker 2: Well, and we got into this discussion too, like does

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Speaker 2: it your insurance not cover testing for this until you're

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Speaker 2: forty five? And now all these people under forty five

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Speaker 2: are getting diagnosed. I don't know if it's forty It

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Speaker 2: might be no, I think I think we looked it

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Speaker 2: up when we were talking about it on YouTube. I

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Speaker 2: think it is forty five. They won't you they want

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Speaker 2: the insurance won't cover it until you're forty five unless

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Speaker 2: you have a family history, and then it's forty.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, I don't know what the exact recommendations

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Speaker 1: are at this point, but regardless, she was thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: so she wouldn't have been eligible either way for testing

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Speaker 1: unless she had a family member that had it, which

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Speaker 1: she didn't. She has no family history of it, so.

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Speaker 2: It just scary.

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Speaker 1: It is scary, and it's scary that she had no idea,

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Speaker 1: so she did go to get treatment. Obviously, they're going

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Speaker 1: to do surgery to resect the tumor, and but the

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Speaker 1: problem is is that once once the tumor gets into

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Speaker 1: the lymphatic system, that means that it just has the

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Speaker 1: ability to spread throughout the body and it usually is coalon,

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Speaker 1: usually goes to the liver first. So typically when a

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Speaker 1: person has stage four cancer, they're not considered to be

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Speaker 1: a candidate for a transplant because in theory, if you

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Speaker 1: take that liver out and put in a new one,

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Speaker 1: the cancer cells have already been circulating around the body,

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Speaker 1: so like they're just going to set up shop there again,

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Speaker 1: which may very well happen with this woman. She had

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Speaker 1: this surgery done three months ago, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say experimental, but it's it's not in the

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Speaker 1: common practice of treating people with metastatic colon cancer. At

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Speaker 1: this point, she had to go to a special hospital

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Speaker 1: that does this, and she didn't use a liver of

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Speaker 1: a person who died, so you would if you use

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Speaker 1: the liver from a person that died. That would be

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Speaker 1: in a case if you had like end stage liver

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Speaker 1: disease or something like that, or cirrhosis or some other

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Speaker 1: kind of hereditary condition, maybe that caused you to have

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Speaker 1: liver disease. So she used a living donor. So she

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Speaker 1: found somebody that was close with her, a friend that

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Speaker 1: matched with her tissue type. And one of the cool

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Speaker 1: things is is that when you like, if I gave

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Speaker 1: you half of my liver, my liver would regenerate and

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Speaker 1: then you could live with half of a liver. But

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Speaker 1: you can't live without a liver.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you. If the

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Speaker 2: donor would have any complications.

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Speaker 1: The donor could totally have complications, because anytime you get surgery,

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Speaker 1: there's complications, and it's a pretty majery like you're cutting

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Speaker 1: an organ in half. It's re routing things, and there

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Speaker 1: is a potential for there to be complications, but there's

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Speaker 1: also potential to just like have a totally normal surgery

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Speaker 1: and heal and not and and like be totally fine.

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Speaker 1: There's a high probability of that. Actually, So this woman

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Speaker 1: was said, Okay, I I'll donate half of my liver

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Speaker 1: to you, which I think that a lot of people like,

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Speaker 1: if anyone really, I feel like in my immediate family

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Speaker 1: needed something like that to live, I would one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent be like, it's it's actually even different than giving

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Speaker 1: a kidney, because the kidney's like you're giving away the

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Speaker 1: whole organ. This one's like you're just giving away a

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Speaker 1: piece of your organ. So the woman that had the

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Speaker 1: stage work cancer, they removed her disease liver and give

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Speaker 1: her half of this woman's liver, and now she's healed

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Speaker 1: three months later. She has no evidence of disease right now,

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Speaker 1: so there's no evidence that she has colon cancer. Because

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Speaker 1: the theory is is that if you are able to

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Speaker 1: kill those rotating tumor cells that are still in the

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Speaker 1: lymphatic system, that if you're able to get that under control,

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Speaker 1: then in theory, she shouldn't develop any more tumors. And

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Speaker 1: even if she does, and there is a possibility that

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Speaker 1: she still will at some point, it's buying her way

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Speaker 1: more time than she would have had with just chemotherapy alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this could be huge. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: and they do it more and they find higher success rates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot to it's a

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Speaker 1: lot to put a person through and ask a person through.

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Speaker 1: But at thirty nine years old, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: she's a mother or not. I'm sure she is. Like

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Speaker 1: you have little kids or little ish kids, youngish kids,

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Speaker 1: Like when you get a diagnosis of stage four colon

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Speaker 1: cancer sometimes it I mean, look like we have Chadwick

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Speaker 1: Boseman had died from stage four colon cancer too. Like

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Speaker 1: you have people that have a lot of money that

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Speaker 1: are very famous that can't survive it. So if you're

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Speaker 1: not ready to go and you're willing to try this,

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Speaker 1: like it, Like I feel like it's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll just hope it doesn't turn into a

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Speaker 2: Selena Gomez situation where there's a riff in the friendship

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Speaker 2: after they did a major thing for you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Also, it's like I said, it's just different than

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Speaker 1: the kidney because it's like your liberal take over again

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Speaker 1: and grow back in a sense, Like it'll be totally

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Speaker 1: functional again. Whereas the kidney, it's just like you give

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Speaker 1: away your extra one and then that's it. That was

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Speaker 1: like your insurance policy. So for there to be a

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Speaker 1: like a like a problem with the friendship is that sucks.

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Speaker 1: That's like ultimate, like that really sucks. And what happened there? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Do you know, like whose fault it was? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the press and pop culture podcast make

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Speaker 2: it seem like it was on Selena and the friend

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Speaker 2: has a different story. I don't really know. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we'll ever know one hundred percent what happened.

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Speaker 2: I think the way there where Selena is trying to

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Speaker 2: pose it from what I can remember, is that like

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Speaker 2: nothing happened that ended their friendship. They just kind of

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Speaker 2: stopped talking, which does happen in real life and with

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Speaker 2: normal people. You would think there was a sum of

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Speaker 2: money gave you. Their organ might hold a special place

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Speaker 2: in your heart. I don't even think that girl was

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Speaker 2: invited to their wedding.

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Speaker 1: Listen, let's be honest. If you're if you gave Selena

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Speaker 1: Gomez a kidney and you're watching her sniff that guy's

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Speaker 1: feet on Instagram, like, do you think that it was

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Speaker 1: worth it for you.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Selena Gomez has been acting like this forever, so

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Speaker 2: like she knew what she was getting into. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: to your point, disgusting, it's really gross. Okay, guys, we

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Speaker 2: have our event coming up in just a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks and we are going to be joined by Joe

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Speaker 2: Jack Alone and Scott Duffy. It's gonna be such a

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Speaker 2: fun weekend in Horseham, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: These guys are so awesome, so you're you're really gonna

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Speaker 1: love it. Just the nicest guys ever and very funny,

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Speaker 1: and they have just great personalities. And all of our

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Speaker 1: lectures are going to be geared towards real death investigation,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's like what we really do in the hospital,

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Speaker 1: in the lab, in the morgue for forensics, for police FBI.

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Speaker 1: It's just going to be really, really cool and it

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Speaker 1: all goes towards a great cause of forensic research. And

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Speaker 1: if anybody's interested in this field, that would be a

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Speaker 1: really good opportunity for you to go because there's going

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Speaker 1: to be so many people there from all different aspects

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Speaker 1: of forensics. Me of course doing autopsy, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Jack Alone and Scott Duffy. They're also doing you know,

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Speaker 1: Scott's from x FBI. He's retired, and Joe jackalone is

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Speaker 1: he's the Sarge that's on YouTube. He I love his

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Speaker 1: YouTube lives by the way. They're really they're they're they're great.

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Speaker 1: He does, and he really talks a lot about He's

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Speaker 1: really been on the Nancy Guthrie case lately, which has

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Speaker 1: been very entertaining for me to watch because he's just

717
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: like blowing a gasket over everything that doesn't seem to

718
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Speaker 1: be going quite right. But yeah, that you just like

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Speaker 1: learn so much from them, So from the policing aspect,

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Speaker 1: an investigation aspect of crimes from those people, and then

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Speaker 1: there's going to be forensic toxicologists there.

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Speaker 2: It's just going to be like really cool that you

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Speaker 2: could see.

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Speaker 1: Because I know for certain, for me, like I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I would be good working in the police

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Speaker 1: aspect of this investigation because I don't want to carry

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Speaker 1: a gun honestly, I'd.

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Speaker 2: Be too scared.

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting to watch and you really listen

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Speaker 1: to them talk and you would feel like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: really feels like it's calling to me. This is something

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And fun fact for any of our listeners who

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Speaker 2: had watched Task on HBO, Scott actually worked with Mark

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Speaker 2: Ruffalo to get him some insight on what being a

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Speaker 2: real FBI.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. I used to love him

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Speaker 1: when he was like in thirteen going on thirty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I was just like, oh, he's fine, So.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to ask he looks experience was like, he

741
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: does seem short, which I don't know how to feel about.

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Speaker 1: He's in that good that other good movie that's called

743
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Speaker 1: Dark Waters or something, you know, the one about the

744
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Speaker 1: whole DuPont situation.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't watch that. Yeah I should. I

746
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Speaker 2: have to know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's really good actually, and I think there's I

748
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Speaker 1: think there's a documentary on it too as well. It's

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Speaker 1: really it's really interesting because it has to do with

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Speaker 1: like all that stuff. So yeah, we'll talk to Scott

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Speaker 1: about that. And I'm curious what he thinks to him

752
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: if he thought he was like a good guy or whatever,

753
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: because some of our friends have worked with celebrities and

754
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: some of them are like I think some of them

755
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: are bitches, other ones are just like they're really cool.

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Speaker 2: So just curious, No, I mean they definitely, they definitely are.

757
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: Some of them are really cool, and some of them

758
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: are like truly the worst people. All right, Please head

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Speaker 1: Say tomorrow, guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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