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Speaker 2: We could still say that we've got true right now, Dudy,

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Speaker 2: that's still Laurel Duty the Pieceta here with me, Mike garro,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back along shortly.

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Speaker 2: If in this part one, go find it and then

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back part two of our.

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Speaker 2: Week seventeen podcasts. We're looking back at week seventeen, forward

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Speaker 2: to week eighteen, and forward to the postseason that is

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Speaker 2: to come. Let's go back to I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what that means. He just told us, sorry, chugging a

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out when he comes back. Anytimes, it does

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Speaker 1: souck it. In the meantime, the Bills a two point.

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Speaker 2: Conversion away from saying alive to the nfpast.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had.

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Speaker 2: An open guy in this and see the look on

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Speaker 2: his face. I'm disappointed he was. And that loss to

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Speaker 2: the Eagles that somehow still felt like a loss in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: which is just typical twenty twenty five Eagle to get

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Speaker 3: Really dangerous because you can't imagine that there's going to

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Speaker 3: be held to twelve points. There's just not that many

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Speaker 4: And it came.

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Speaker 3: It was so so close to Josh Allen putting on

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, we can spend some time talking

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Speaker 3: the second half offense, I know every Eagles fan I

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Speaker 3: won eleven games, it's great, you won the division. You're

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Speaker 3: Like when do the Phillies report to spring training? That

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Speaker 4: I mean, I admittedly why them yesterday? I have some

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Speaker 3: The offense went completely silent in the second half. The

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Speaker 3: come up against uh, you know, playoff teams, which the

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Speaker 3: Bills are, can you keep can you count on winning

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Speaker 3: games the way you want it? Yesterday against the Bills

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Speaker 3: by holding the opponent to twelve points, I had.

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Speaker 2: Some conversations with some folks and Telly, including welcome back.

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Speaker 4: To Anthony was doing. Here's what I was doing. I

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Speaker 4: mean you text, we already told the audience, Oh you did. Okay,

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Speaker 4: what if it was private?

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless I don't know what honey straw is,

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Speaker 1: I think it's okay to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great thing. So Max legs. Honey straws

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Speaker 2: It turns out it turns out I know exactly what. Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: such we're talking to Eagles here, okay, man, I instead

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Speaker 2: coming into this game. I'm Anthony Show every week. I

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Speaker 2: in week seventeen. And I said, well, that's two weeks

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Speaker 1: In Week eight.

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Speaker 5: Team too much, we've seen it like plus to me,

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Speaker 2: And Judy's talking about the fan base and a lot

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Speaker 4: Yet, and yet nobody feels good. The Eagles are so weird.

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Speaker 4: They are eleven and five. Like I feel like, if

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Speaker 4: I mean every week they've been in top of gun

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Speaker 2: That's like the team that I cover the most, so

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Speaker 1: So anyway, the other part of this.

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Speaker 2: playing to save up the Jets, Judy, But we will

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Speaker 3: He's unbelievable. They look they were unbelievable yesterday. They were

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Speaker 2: And Judy back to you about Trevor Larks. What's interesting

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Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. Giants ragers Ian.

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Speaker 2: Both teams leading up to the game looked like they

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, they tried. Both teams tried. Raiders put a

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