Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one Engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling Amy.
Speaker 2: It's me and you again, just you and me. We
Speaker 2: have all an exciting episode of I.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to talk about this episode.
Speaker 2: You are chomping at the bit over there, I can do.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, ridiculous in a good way or
Speaker 2: ridiculous and a ridiculous like bad like Shenanigan's way.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really enjoyed it, and yet it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: First of all, the Walshes are going to have marital problems.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Number two, we're going to solve
Speaker 1: the marital problems. We were on the edge of divorce,
Speaker 1: and yet we're going to solve them in this minute
Speaker 1: episode one note with an angel solved, Everything solved.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they have Jim come back with Cindy?
Speaker 1: I am the assuming that James Eckhouse was unavailable and
Speaker 1: that they wanted them in, So that's why they wrote
Speaker 1: this ridiculous, far fetched. The Walshes are having marital problems
Speaker 1: like it was so stupid.
Speaker 2: All the Walshes will never have marital.
Speaker 1: Problem, thank you exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like work.
Speaker 1: And if they actually did have marital problems. They're going
Speaker 1: to solve it one minute.
Speaker 2: With Jim not even there to help solve it. He
Speaker 2: just write a handwritten note. Where then wait, where did
Speaker 2: he go on his little trip?
Speaker 1: They're in No, Oh he went on a cruise. But
Speaker 1: they live in Hong Kong.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I thought they lived. Why Why did I
Speaker 2: think that?
Speaker 1: No, they're definitely in another country. I think it's Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: He's got a big promotion. They're rolling in the dough.
Speaker 1: Remember he's making like three times and then he's going
Speaker 1: on a cruise without her and.
Speaker 2: He can't what's gotten in? Did you Jim Walsh that
Speaker 2: he won't come home to be with his son? Oh?
Speaker 1: No thing, because this is made up. Hooey, this is
Speaker 1: never This was such malarkey like that was ridiculous. Next
Speaker 1: you boy, Colin is just my god?
Speaker 2: You we are not recapping like this. This is not
Speaker 2: how this podcast works.
Speaker 1: Will I will calm down, But everybody buckle up because
Speaker 1: this is going to be a very entertaining ride.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're gonna get into it right after this.
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Speaker 2: It's time it's well, it's Christmas time, you guys in
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. We are talking today about season six, episode
Speaker 2: fifteen Angels we have heard on high air December twentieth,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, like right in the middle of the nineties.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sorry to sidebar, but have you been
Speaker 1: watching the Melendez thing.
Speaker 2: The Mendez the Menndez brother's on Fox Monitors or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like the First Monsters with the Jeffrey Dahmer,
Speaker 1: which I could not watch. I tried one episode and
Speaker 1: was like, this is that way too gnarly?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But speaking of so, Menendez happened literally like right before
Speaker 1: nine o two one zero started. I think it was
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched. We watched this whole trial play out.
Speaker 1: It's very good. I highly recommend watching it. But it
Speaker 1: does bring back.
Speaker 2: Did you see my friend Leslie?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: She plays She plays a major character, right.
Speaker 2: She plays the mistress of the therapist who gets all
Speaker 2: the like real details of the murders and then he
Speaker 2: tries to extort them, get them to like give him money.
Speaker 2: It's so good, you guys.
Speaker 1: I wonder if she never existed or never had a
Speaker 1: falling out with the therapist. Would the boys have ever
Speaker 1: been caught? Because she is really the reason. It does
Speaker 1: seem like they were sort of. She's the main reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and your friend is really good. She's really good.
Speaker 2: It's such a good actress. She looks perfect for this role. Yes,
Speaker 2: I just saw her in the airport two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: No no, I was so excited.
Speaker 1: And nineties con or just like randomly.
Speaker 2: No I was going to New York for something and
Speaker 2: she was going to New York for the premiere I
Speaker 2: think of Monsters. No way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should watch it. It's very good.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I bring it up because it's in Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: it's right at the start of the nineties, so there's
Speaker 1: a lot of sort of nineties esque things. Anyway, I digress.
Speaker 1: Am I supposed to do the synopsis? Sorry, it's very
Speaker 1: off track.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Cindy Walsh returns to Beverly Hills with marital problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Orally, Steve has a come to Jesus moment with his
Speaker 1: father Rush. Okay, I can't wait to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Donna is desperate for her birthday present as a Christmas baby.
Speaker 1: Also what and Kelly. This covers Colin is graving a
Speaker 1: white Christmas minus the snow ho ho ho. Directed by
Speaker 1: Joy Did you Say that?
Speaker 2: Directed by Jason Priestley and written by only one person
Speaker 2: this time, Larry Mullen.
Speaker 1: So it does feel Priestley esque a little less than
Speaker 1: it used to. He used to be even more, but
Speaker 1: now it's like he's kind of settled in, but you
Speaker 1: can tell it's like it still has his sort of touch.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel his touch as much on this one.
Speaker 2: I felt. I feel like since this season, uh, Jason
Speaker 2: slash Brandon got a lot more serious about everything and
Speaker 2: more grounded, and he's now because he's a producer on
Speaker 2: the show, I feel like he's just so much more
Speaker 2: like guiled in and calling the shots and in charge,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't. I didn't feel that same playful vibe
Speaker 2: that I normally feel when he directs. But maybe he smiles,
Speaker 2: changing and sort of morphing.
Speaker 1: Into what it is way less playful. You're right, but
Speaker 1: not bad.
Speaker 2: It's not that it's I think it's great what he's doing.
Speaker 2: I kind of actually like it a little more because
Speaker 2: it doesn't take me out of the show when I
Speaker 2: see like the like you know, three Stooges moments or
Speaker 2: all the stuff.
Speaker 1: I was in it in this episode, but each storyline
Speaker 1: is so absurd, Like we can go through the scenes,
Speaker 1: but like Steve has the biggest falling out ever with
Speaker 1: his father. They hate each other and now they're best friends. Donna,
Speaker 1: first of all, who asked their boyfriend where their gift
Speaker 1: is like one hundred and twelve times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was very like a baby ish about it,
Speaker 2: but I think probably like if your birthday is on Christmas,
Speaker 2: maybe you your instinct is to try to make more
Speaker 2: of your birthday because everybody's forgetting about it because it's Christmas.
Speaker 1: I did love the nat Cupcake who gets to bird?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, I cannot imagine getting a bird
Speaker 2: that's going to live one hundred years long, yes, way
Speaker 2: long after this boyfriend has come and gone, because we
Speaker 2: all know he will leave at some point. There's Stepka,
Speaker 2: there's other boys. For Donna, that bird theoretically will have
Speaker 2: to be with her forever. Is I want to ask
Speaker 2: her so badly? Is this inspired by her bird that
Speaker 2: bit her nose?
Speaker 1: Remember there's I'm assuming so right, I can't because why
Speaker 1: would he Why would anyone give anyone a bird.
Speaker 2: No, this is anybody that's listening. Never do that. Never
Speaker 2: give your girlfriend or anyone for that matter, a bird.
Speaker 1: Unless it's like fine, maybe it's your spouse or your kids.
Speaker 1: You can give him a cat or a dog or
Speaker 1: a fish, maybe even a terble.
Speaker 2: But like, you can give him a goat too.
Speaker 1: Go sure if it's a f if you're married and
Speaker 1: you live in the same home and you're all going
Speaker 1: to take care of it.
Speaker 2: A girlfriend a bird they even't even been dating that long.
Speaker 1: There were so many better gifts. Yeah, and that bird
Speaker 1: was probably expensive.
Speaker 2: It was like an African gray right, how.
Speaker 1: About a bracelet anyway? That was ridiculous And then Colin
Speaker 1: with his raging from the top or not please Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's just I want everyone to have an overview
Speaker 1: of I love it, super great and totally crazy, totally crazy.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. I love though, how they have decorated
Speaker 2: the Walsh House the kids supposedly, but we all know
Speaker 2: that was set Dock.
Speaker 1: He did a beautiful job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the set decorators did a great job of decorating
Speaker 2: the Walsh House, and.
Speaker 1: Cindy looked so pleased with the decor.
Speaker 2: I know she was proud she had a pre I
Speaker 2: was proud she walked in, So s she walked in.
Speaker 2: We started across the wash where Susan wakes up in
Speaker 2: Brandon's bed and is about to do the walk of
Speaker 2: shame when they hear a knock on the door and uh, pause,
Speaker 2: who came for dinner? It's Cindy Walsh, thank you exactly.
Speaker 1: But why Susan has been dating him for quite a
Speaker 1: while now, why would she like slink out of the
Speaker 1: house like she doesn't want to see Valerie? Like it's
Speaker 1: just so what.
Speaker 2: I know why she has she never slept over. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: That was just sort of a random thing I think
Speaker 1: to set up. Oh, and then look how embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Of Brandon's mom. Honey, Honey Brandon, are you awake? Honey Brandon?
Speaker 2: And then she has her ocean moment where she hides
Speaker 2: under the blanket. I loved this part actually, when Emma,
Speaker 2: who plays Susan, Uh, she has that whole comforter like
Speaker 2: like she's a baby in a blanket. It's the cue
Speaker 2: thing she's told.
Speaker 1: Whether that was her choice or or Jason told her
Speaker 1: to do, that is so good because I laughed, and
Speaker 1: she says, has a funny line. Really nice to meet you,
Speaker 1: Like it was that a good scene?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was, And I'm excited that Cindy's home.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you same. I was very excited.
Speaker 2: And then Brandon asks where's dad and she says, right now,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. Immediately I'm like.
Speaker 2: And also, I don't know that you would say that
Speaker 2: to your son.
Speaker 1: Thank you exactly like.
Speaker 2: I would be like, oh, he's busy, or I just
Speaker 2: wanted to come on my own, like I wouldn't say
Speaker 2: something so true.
Speaker 1: It's working. He couldn't make the trip, but I was
Speaker 1: so happy to come home. Nobody's like talking to their
Speaker 1: kid like that after being married for a hundred years
Speaker 1: in this family and just like, oh your father, yeah,
Speaker 1: in no worries and I don't care. It's just like,
Speaker 1: who are you, Sindy? Hey, like what and come on,
Speaker 1: we know Jim he's not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: No, my Jim would never do that. Thank you. We
Speaker 2: see Brandon ask what's going on with Cindy and Jim
Speaker 2: and she says that he loves Hong Kong, but that
Speaker 2: she has no life, and she explains that Jim boked
Speaker 2: a holiday cruise with his boss, and he would go
Speaker 2: with or without her, So she chose to come home
Speaker 2: because it's Christmas.
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated with the writer because she would have loved
Speaker 1: Hong Kong like they're fine. They would be having the
Speaker 1: time of their lives.
Speaker 2: He'd be working, well, he's working a lot, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So what is but he can She was going to
Speaker 1: take classes or something or use her degree that she
Speaker 1: just got at SeeU Counseling. I don't know what that
Speaker 1: degree was in.
Speaker 2: They're cutting her short, making her seem so dependent on
Speaker 2: his tests. She is a beautiful, strong, independent woman in
Speaker 2: her best years of her life. Give her a break,
Speaker 2: give me a Give.
Speaker 1: Jim some credit too. He's not going on a He's
Speaker 1: not a jerk. He's not going on a cruise. That's
Speaker 1: not Jim did.
Speaker 2: Jim just changed completely his personality while when he into
Speaker 2: Hong Kong. Now he's like a workaholic, doesn't care about
Speaker 2: anybody but himself. Kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous hilly ridiculous country club.
Speaker 2: Rush is volunteering Steve to help his business buddy deliver
Speaker 2: gifts on Christmas Eve, and Rush says you have to
Speaker 2: go that extra mile to get ahead, son, and then
Speaker 2: the old.
Speaker 1: Switcheroo, the old gifts witchero.
Speaker 2: But yeap, Like I feel like I was watching The Brady.
Speaker 1: Bunch totally the other woman get the got the Almighty
Speaker 1: bake of it or whatever it's.
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, we'll get to that part. We go
Speaker 2: to colin studio where Colin is showing Valerie the beautiful
Speaker 2: painting she wanted the auction. She says that she should
Speaker 2: have done it in the nude. Hmm, but Colin says
Speaker 2: Kelly would need a lobotomy if that were to happen. Hi. Thanks,
Speaker 2: you know I've always wanted a lobotomy.
Speaker 1: Again. First of all, you know that I don't even
Speaker 1: buy her whole it's for David thing. We talked about
Speaker 1: that last week. So here's this portrait, which I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty good. I felt like she should
Speaker 2: have probably Tiffany should have probably taken that home with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where is that? You would assume totally, you'd assume
Speaker 1: she got it.
Speaker 2: But if you walked into Tiffany's house and she had
Speaker 2: over her fireplace.
Speaker 1: So I would be like respect about out respect. But Colin. God,
Speaker 1: he's just my God.
Speaker 2: The shy guy knocks at the door and Colin buys
Speaker 2: cocaine from.
Speaker 1: Just a drug deal at the door.
Speaker 2: And not being very like sly about it at all.
Speaker 2: Valerie confronts him about the cocaine. He says, it's only
Speaker 2: for the holidays. It's no big deal. You know, everybody
Speaker 2: loves to do a little coke on Christmas Day, have like.
Speaker 1: A it's only a gram like something like that. I'm
Speaker 1: just like calling, you're.
Speaker 2: Gross down, like it's no big deal. That is a
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 1: Also, he's so gross one.
Speaker 2: That's doing drugs like nobody else is doing.
Speaker 1: How about even respect for Valerie who doesn't even do drugs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of her.
Speaker 1: Oh you just wait, Jenny, you're about to be taken down.
Speaker 2: No, he tells Valerie not to tell Kelly. Then he
Speaker 2: offers her a line of cocaine.
Speaker 3: That is all.
Speaker 1: They're a little light about cocaine now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm like a prude.
Speaker 2: I think you are. I think we both are, because.
Speaker 1: I've seen cocaine in my whole life only two times,
Speaker 1: one time at a Rolling Stones concert and one other time,
Speaker 1: and I was like freaked out like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're so sheltered. I've never actually seen
Speaker 2: the cocaine par of cocaine, only had it in a
Speaker 2: bottle like that little bottle he added in. And I've
Speaker 2: absolutely never touched cocaine Like that does not sound like
Speaker 2: a good time to me.
Speaker 1: Oof of coffee, I don't advil is the hardest I
Speaker 1: will do. And I'm checking the bottle and the clock.
Speaker 1: I've taken two. I cannot take two again until four hours.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love us.
Speaker 1: So I was like, he is just doing coke, like
Speaker 1: it's like he's smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Was and I don't even think anyone does that, Like
Speaker 1: no one's at a fair like a children's fair, going
Speaker 1: behind the fakes of snow Hill.
Speaker 2: It's just it's really pathetic. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sure was expensive, Like I don't know what cocaine costs.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're just I feel like it was
Speaker 2: probably a lot cheaper, because wasn't it, Like I think
Speaker 2: you're kidding, Like, oh, no, cocaine is heround since the seventies,
Speaker 2: right like the.
Speaker 1: Six I guess I would assume it's been around for
Speaker 1: quite a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just weird. It feels very shocking to have
Speaker 2: this like storyline just kind of like he eased into
Speaker 2: like it's no big deal.
Speaker 1: Yes, and like everyone's just like no, like not no
Speaker 1: big deal, but not like Kelly, you need to dump
Speaker 1: him immediately. Like if I were your friend, I'd be like, Kelly,
Speaker 1: this dude is doing so much cocaine. You need to
Speaker 1: get away from him. Like he's doing it breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 1: and dinner.
Speaker 2: No, she's not gonna. Well, I'm proud of.
Speaker 1: Her that she doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: She could always surprise you and go tell Kelly and
Speaker 2: try to protect her.
Speaker 1: He cries. She sort of does it in a mean way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We go to the condo and we see that
Speaker 2: Claire and David. Claire is helping sorry Steve to deliver
Speaker 2: the gifts that he's been hired to deliver. He knocks
Speaker 2: on the first door and a very louie woman opens
Speaker 2: up and says, what did Scott he send me now?
Speaker 2: And she opens it right there so awkwardly in the doorway,
Speaker 2: because you would do that, I don't think so. But
Speaker 2: it is a holly homemaker oven, which is a little.
Speaker 1: Seem happy about.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's cute. He got her something
Speaker 2: to remind her of her childhood. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: didn't really think anything of it yet.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was pretty into the we've switched the gifts
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, you knew. I was like, oh, this feels
Speaker 1: like that one.
Speaker 2: You're a smart cookie.
Speaker 1: Can I briefly ask you a question, yes, what how
Speaker 1: do you feel about Claire and Steve.
Speaker 2: I feel like that there there's a natural easiness about them,
Speaker 2: which I like, But at the same time, I do
Speaker 2: not believe it at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I on the nose, I agree with you completely.
Speaker 1: There are times when I'm like, these two are so
Speaker 1: cool and easy and comfortable, and then at the same
Speaker 1: time I'm like, is this the I forgot they were together.
Speaker 1: At one point I was like, oh, those two are together.
Speaker 1: This is so fa making weird.
Speaker 2: Something I don't visually like get it. I don't see
Speaker 2: them together as a couple, which you know that happens,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. There's just like some chemistry issue happening,
Speaker 2: and it's yeah, it's Claire like, their personalities for me
Speaker 2: just go together. She's very like overt and you know.
Speaker 1: Literally had a moment watching it going when does Lindsay
Speaker 1: Price show up?
Speaker 2: Oh that was a good one. I can't anyway, we
Speaker 2: go to the peach bit and we see Brandon confiding
Speaker 2: in David and Valery about his parents' issues, and then
Speaker 2: David mentions that his parents even fought about the garden
Speaker 2: tools in the divorce. So that's not very encouraging to Brandon,
Speaker 2: and Nat tells Brandon to chill and offers to talk
Speaker 2: to Cindy. Brandon says it's a good idea. In bites
Speaker 2: over to the house tonight for that tree trimming, did you.
Speaker 1: Have a moment where you were like, are Cindy and
Speaker 1: Not going to have an affair?
Speaker 2: I didn't, but my Lola was watching it with me,
Speaker 2: and she was like, wait, are they gonna hook up?
Speaker 2: Because they stood so close to each other when he
Speaker 2: went to the watch house.
Speaker 1: It was I sort of like must have glitched because
Speaker 1: I'm like, where are they going? They're going somewhere together,
Speaker 1: Like this could have been a whole storyline. Oh, like,
Speaker 1: my god, and they were going to church, but I.
Speaker 2: Can't they're going to church.
Speaker 1: I had a whole moment, a whole moment.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the beach house where Kelly catches Donna
Speaker 2: opening the gift Joe gave her, and Donna explains that
Speaker 2: she has a whole system so he won't find out
Speaker 2: that she peeked. But a bunch of fake snakes bop
Speaker 2: out of the box with a card, a giant card
Speaker 2: that conveniently says gotcha. I just I kind of vaguely
Speaker 2: remember filming that scene. Also, I used to love those
Speaker 2: cans with the springy, worm snaky thing that would jump out,
Speaker 2: favorite practical joke ever and gets you every time. So
Speaker 2: an entire box of those things open.
Speaker 1: It's funny. And also I'm not a fan of those things.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't like a jack in the box.
Speaker 1: I don't like remember do you remember Perfection? So that
Speaker 1: was like a game and you had to put those
Speaker 1: x's and plus'es and o's or something all really quickly
Speaker 1: in or pop up at you. Very too stressful on
Speaker 1: the old heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they give you the anxieties, just.
Speaker 1: The storyline, just with the whole like what's Joe gonna
Speaker 1: give Donna? It's just like, what this is a what? Yeah?
Speaker 2: There? I think it's cute because she's very playful and
Speaker 2: he's buying into the playfulness and he knows.
Speaker 1: Her well, I love them.
Speaker 2: Claire are at the next door delivering the next presence,
Speaker 2: Oh god, and he gives it to a little girl there.
Speaker 2: Yeah they we don't see her open it now.
Speaker 1: None of us is Steve's fault because the stickers were
Speaker 1: on the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he says that later. It's not my fault.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: The idiot boss is the one who switched it all up.
Speaker 2: And that's also the scene where we see Steve remind
Speaker 2: us that he has adopted, yes, and that Rush.
Speaker 1: Is not his father, yes, which I'm glad. We're going
Speaker 1: to solve all that in thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Right, And then he weirdly tells her to drop it,
Speaker 2: like okay, because you're the boss of me. Anyways, Oh boy.
Speaker 2: We go to the Colossa Walsh. Brandon is looking sad
Speaker 2: as he goes through the Exmas decorations because his family
Speaker 2: is literally falling apart like his sister. He hasn't talked
Speaker 2: to his sister since she left, I mean maybe once
Speaker 2: or twice. He mentions that he talked to her. She
Speaker 2: doesn't come home for Christmas. His dad doesn't come home
Speaker 2: for Christmas. His parents are getting divorced. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the worst Christmas ever. Cindy explains that his dad
Speaker 2: has a whole new life and they have nothing in
Speaker 2: common the which just may not be salvageable.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense. They have everything in common.
Speaker 1: They are the same people that left five minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Like what, It's just absolutely so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a nice scene between Cindy and Brandon.
Speaker 2: I love that he has a mommy daughter oats a
Speaker 2: mommy son moment because he needs it. He really does.
Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, his performance is great. It's just like, yep,
Speaker 1: unbelievable and like out of nowhere and just like ridiculous. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Forced Anyway, so later that night, they host the Christmas
Speaker 2: decorating party, where Susan tells Brandon about her first Christmas
Speaker 2: in LA and I fell asleep during that party.
Speaker 1: I feel like she talks all about the ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: in that scene.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Cindy tells Valerie about Brandon taking a news
Speaker 2: so hard, and Valerie says, men make everything about them.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, Cindy's gonna take wise words from Valerie.
Speaker 2: But okay, with that hairdo, especially that literally that I
Speaker 2: think was my wedding hairdo. I got married in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety Oh no, not until two thousands, so I might
Speaker 2: have been inspired by this wedding hair.
Speaker 1: The bob sort of a short bob.
Speaker 2: It was like like a fountain.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, sure.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly who my wedding hair was. No, I
Speaker 2: really regret that hairdoo.
Speaker 1: I say, never to do something to your hair on
Speaker 1: your wedding that you wouldn't like, just do every day,
Speaker 1: because you'll look back and really regret it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just keep thinking about the foat the hair
Speaker 1: she has in the portrait. It's very sort of yeah
Speaker 1: bob lung bob. Maybe sort of medium bob.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Donna trying to get the details Joe about her Christmas.
Speaker 1: Give Donna something better to do. The whole episode is
Speaker 1: just her being like, what's my gift, what's my gift?
Speaker 1: What's my gift?
Speaker 3: What's my gift?
Speaker 1: What's my gift? Thanks for the cupcake, what's my gift?
Speaker 2: They kind of alternate things, like last episode had that
Speaker 2: big storyline with the neighbor and yeah.
Speaker 1: You make a great point.
Speaker 2: Colin is high as a kite in front of everyone,
Speaker 2: and David notices right away may all have.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a funny lingo for him being high high.
Speaker 1: He's high as a kite. He's all electrified, like electricity,
Speaker 1: like it's all they all. I can't think of him,
Speaker 1: but every single one of them has like some zinger
Speaker 1: for how hi he is.
Speaker 2: Did you think he was playing high?
Speaker 1: Well, no, I thought he was just playing Colin. I
Speaker 1: felt like he was.
Speaker 2: Just had a little extra maybe a coffee and maybe
Speaker 2: a little extra energy. But I did not get like,
Speaker 2: oh he's snorting koke.
Speaker 1: No. Oh, but god, they make him do so much
Speaker 1: cocaine in this episode, like everywhere we turn and then
Speaker 1: didn't does he take takes it off a pocket knife
Speaker 1: at one point, and I'm like, oh my god, is
Speaker 1: that done? Is that done? Do people do that?
Speaker 2: No? I don't. I don't know how you go zero
Speaker 2: to one hundred on that.
Speaker 1: Boom in on the cocaine because they can't show him
Speaker 1: like snorting it. I mean, it was just oh my god.
Speaker 2: Where his head comes up like.
Speaker 1: Like he goes down to do it, keeps going in
Speaker 1: the bathroom and always with the nose webbing. Oh and
Speaker 1: at one point You're like, he's got a really bad cold.
Speaker 1: I better get him home because he's like sniffering.
Speaker 2: Does she know at that point?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, I don't think so. By
Speaker 1: the way, do you have like a beautiful glasses chain
Speaker 1: on your glasses? That's also maybe something a grandma would wear.
Speaker 2: I know, look at it. It's cute though, has gold?
Speaker 2: I made this? It's gold.
Speaker 1: It's actually really cute. But is that like, so you
Speaker 1: can take your glasses off and just hang them around
Speaker 1: your neck?
Speaker 2: Oh? Look, this is me. I'm very I can't have
Speaker 2: I don't have time to look for my glasses right now.
Speaker 2: If I need to look at something, I go like this,
Speaker 2: like a green.
Speaker 1: Is that a glasses chain made by Jenny Garth or
Speaker 1: or no? This is now?
Speaker 2: Do you like it?
Speaker 1: I do? In fact, it's it's grandma chice, is what
Speaker 1: I would call it.
Speaker 2: I'm into that.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm into it too, like I yes, I do,
Speaker 1: in fact like it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad you're right to call out the
Speaker 2: grandmotness of it.
Speaker 1: And I am not grandma chic.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And actually I think I hope you sell a lot
Speaker 1: of them because they're really good. But it just you're
Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of that these days.
Speaker 2: But you know what's fun.
Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing it back. Yeah, thanks for bringing it back.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Anyway, what were we talking about? He goes through.
Speaker 2: That's the moment where we're like, wait, is something Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 1: I was like, are they a thing now?
Speaker 2: He too? Rush comes over to tell Steve what a
Speaker 2: screw up he is because he delivered Scotty's mistress's gift
Speaker 2: to his niece, which is going to cost him a fortune.
Speaker 2: Why is it going to cost him a fortune? Oh,
Speaker 2: because his wife found I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe his wife is leaving him because she
Speaker 1: found out about the affair. Okay, First of all, how
Speaker 1: in one episode we go from Rush sort of like
Speaker 1: liking Steve, giving him you know, you gotta hilp out
Speaker 1: this job, to being hateful and awful. Steve hates him.
Speaker 1: There's crying, and then all of a sudden it was
Speaker 1: fully resolved, and I'm like, how did that happen? How
Speaker 1: did that happened?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Then we find out dunt dun dum Rush is the
Speaker 1: biological father and he had an affair and don't tell
Speaker 1: your mother and what so much?
Speaker 2: So much there to talk about at the beach bit
Speaker 2: over a burger.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Frozen two?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I don't Frozen two. The Frozen movies are amazing, but
Speaker 1: there's a scene in Frozen two where Olaf very quickly
Speaker 1: tells the whole plot of Frozen one. And that's how
Speaker 1: I felt like. I was like, oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. He hates him, he loves him, he hates it,
Speaker 1: he loves him. This is awful thing. You're never gonna
Speaker 1: speak again. Oh my god, they're best friends.
Speaker 2: It was a lot. I felt like a little emotionally
Speaker 2: and exhausted, and like, I don't know how Steve went
Speaker 2: through all that in and out.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about Irons crying.
Speaker 2: Details Rush that it wasn't his fault, and he tells
Speaker 2: him that he is not his father anyway. They get
Speaker 2: into a huge fight and Claire tail Steve to apologize
Speaker 2: to his dad the next day.
Speaker 1: It's like, really, we're going there.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. At the call Donna exactly at three
Speaker 2: twenty seven am.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that's the time of her birth.
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought he would have called her at like
Speaker 2: twelve am.
Speaker 1: Like he did it at the exact time. Somehow he
Speaker 1: knew her exact birth time.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's just too much now, And were you.
Speaker 1: Born do you know? I think I was born in
Speaker 1: the ten o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: I was born in the morning, like eight am or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not mad at Joe cute, but also
Speaker 1: three am.
Speaker 2: It's a lot though for him to be there.
Speaker 1: Joe is still just relegated to only his dorm. He
Speaker 1: can never sleep over. It's like, I don't know any
Speaker 1: football player that is not allowed to leave the dorm
Speaker 1: at Christmas.
Speaker 2: Well, and also they don't sleep together.
Speaker 1: They could sleep together without sleeping together. You say they allowed.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the rules are.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's that they believe in that.
Speaker 1: Oh, all right, respect.
Speaker 2: He plans to give her the present later, which is
Speaker 2: a what's it called McCall a big giant bird.
Speaker 3: Basically Joe love Donna.
Speaker 1: Like how about port Cameron Bancroft who had to work
Speaker 1: so many scenes with Bird.
Speaker 2: And say that over and over Joe loves Donna. So
Speaker 2: now it's Christmas Day and Brandon opens his gift and
Speaker 2: sees that Santa aka Sendy but don't tell your kids
Speaker 2: got him a tag Poyer.
Speaker 1: Watch, which was very of the time. Those were the
Speaker 1: I mean that was no joke. Not as pricey as
Speaker 1: a Rolex, but not cheap.
Speaker 2: It was more popular I think in the nineties Nan
Speaker 2: rolegs and I remember Jason.
Speaker 1: Harry I had one, and then I didn't want it anymore,
Speaker 1: Like I remember being like, I want this, No, I don't.
Speaker 2: They're very big. Brandon tells his mom that if she
Speaker 2: loves Jim, she has to try to make it work,
Speaker 2: and Cindy says she's not sure if he still cares
Speaker 2: about her. Gosh, that's heartbreaking. The doorbell rings and it's
Speaker 2: the up with Christmas? For who else? But this is
Speaker 2: James Walsh.
Speaker 1: May we talk about that? This is Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's laps? People do not work on Christmas, especially
Speaker 1: in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I was thinking that poor guy, he needs to be
Speaker 2: home with his family. Jim sent Cindy an angel pendant
Speaker 2: and a card that says, hurry home, my angel, My angel.
Speaker 1: The angel was what I think one are over and
Speaker 1: suddenly all is right in Hong Kong and the world,
Speaker 1: and she is off to the airport.
Speaker 2: You know what I think guys do is they they're
Speaker 2: much better at texting romantic things or writing romantic things
Speaker 2: in a card, then actually when you're face to face,
Speaker 2: like expressing their true feelings.
Speaker 1: About something, that's probably pretty fair. Yeah, I looks Hue tied.
Speaker 2: Maybe he loves Cindy. Nobody thinks he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He never stopped. This Old Star story line is a
Speaker 1: bunch of bulls bleep, bull bleep, so ridiculous, Like they're
Speaker 1: doing Cyndy and Jim dirty and I don't like it.
Speaker 2: A good point.
Speaker 1: They're not Jim is not going to do that. They're
Speaker 1: using going on a cruise.
Speaker 2: Dramatic situation so created so like you know, convenient to
Speaker 2: Brandon's storyline for some reason, which really goes nowhere. It's
Speaker 2: all one and done in one episode. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 1: It just seemed so ridiculous to me, but I get it.
Speaker 1: But they did it for the drama of this episode, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so dramatic. Cindy has come home and thing they're
Speaker 1: having trouble, Like I don't, it's just no, No.
Speaker 2: Amy is not having it.
Speaker 1: No, because it's just not Cindy and Jim. Remember the
Speaker 1: seven year itch. Didn't Jim flirt in Hot tub once
Speaker 1: or something. I can't remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Cindy had a little flame with a garden.
Speaker 1: Guy seventeen year itch, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was gardening with some other man
Speaker 2: and then they were with the swingers in the hot tub.
Speaker 2: That's what you're thinking of. Had the secretary that nothing
Speaker 2: ever happened there. She was a little jealous, but there
Speaker 2: was nothing going on.
Speaker 1: We have it the dreams, remember the dreams. Somebody was
Speaker 1: having dreams.
Speaker 2: And that's where Steve finds his dad and he says
Speaker 2: he's sorry, and Rush says that he deserved what Steve
Speaker 2: told him. And then Rush confesses to Steve that he is,
Speaker 2: in fact his real father. He had an affair with
Speaker 2: a waitress in New Mexico, which is remember we saw
Speaker 2: Steve go to New Mexico and look for his parents,
Speaker 2: look for his mom, Aaron Brown. Rush bought the rights
Speaker 2: to take Steve home with him. He said, he bought him.
Speaker 1: I bought my own baby.
Speaker 2: What they don't think that's gonna make people feel good
Speaker 2: about themselves. But okay, uh, Steve is so Steve all
Speaker 2: these years and then Rush couldn't tell Steve's mom the truth.
Speaker 1: This is where the tears are coming. Steve's faked tears.
Speaker 1: That's a hard scene to do. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was Emmy worthy.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that there are other moments on the
Speaker 2: show that are a me worthy? I mean, because I
Speaker 2: need to see those.
Speaker 1: Some some.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love you. Yeah, it was. That's
Speaker 2: a hard scene to play out in the peach pit
Speaker 2: over you know, whatever was Rush was eating. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It is where I think I blinked too, because everything
Speaker 1: get resolved in that scene because I literally have no
Speaker 1: idea when they resolved it.
Speaker 2: They go to the marina because they're going to do this,
Speaker 2: organize this.
Speaker 1: Slutty yes, yes, yes, okay, yes.
Speaker 2: And then Steve is in a great mood there yep,
Speaker 2: just crying in the peach bit and now he's in
Speaker 2: a great mood finding out that Rush is his real father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, suddenly it just went so crazy. And then remember
Speaker 1: he's at the peach pit and he comes in and says,
Speaker 1: I've got big news. My dad is my dad. And
Speaker 1: I was like, then did he go yeah? Neither did
Speaker 1: I I was like, when did we go from crying
Speaker 1: and being very unhappy to everything is great and this
Speaker 1: is my dad's my best friend.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being lied to all those years? I
Speaker 2: think it would take you more than you know. I
Speaker 2: would speak to get over it.
Speaker 1: I think I was so distracted by all the cocaine
Speaker 1: at the at the children's fair.
Speaker 2: And the gym and Cindy. Oh my god. Remember Colin
Speaker 2: goes behind what is the slide or something I.
Speaker 1: Like, or the the outhouse, I don't know, Like it
Speaker 1: was just weird. I was like, then he went to
Speaker 1: get the coffee first of all, which made me so nervous.
Speaker 1: He's holding the cow and then it gets hit by
Speaker 1: the snowball and then there's snow and the coffee is flying.
Speaker 2: And he's high in the kite everybody.
Speaker 1: And she yeah, And then there was another zinger from
Speaker 1: Valerie like he's got more noses than rude. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all. I don't remember what it was, but it
Speaker 1: was all. Everybody just had some weird.
Speaker 2: Valerie comes up to Kelly and asks if she's noticed
Speaker 2: anything strange.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she says, he's as high as a something kite,
Speaker 1: like an e ponyous kite, a word I didn't know.
Speaker 1: And I was like a perennial kite, That's what it was.
Speaker 1: And I was like perennial or something. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that word.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So also that was probably one of
Speaker 2: the you know that scene, that little scene probably costs
Speaker 2: you know, pretty penny with the snow and all.
Speaker 1: The with the fake snow and the whole thing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this episode three parts?
Speaker 2: And for nothing, like just to see Colin snort some
Speaker 2: coke in a weird place. Yeah, Like thenially to kind
Speaker 2: of get the tip that her boyfriend is doing bad things.
Speaker 2: We go to the to the peach Bit again where
Speaker 2: Steve cut that's when you say he comes in, tells
Speaker 2: the it's about Rush being his real daddy, so happy
Speaker 2: yeah uh, and catches Colin snorting the coke.
Speaker 1: Yes, She's like, what are you doing in there? And
Speaker 1: he's all going to the bathroom and she's all, wipe
Speaker 1: your nose. It was just like what, oh my heck.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I don't know how I know what
Speaker 2: you guys. I know I remembered this storyline and where
Speaker 2: it goes with Kelly, but I don't know how we
Speaker 2: get there from here.
Speaker 1: When it is like fast, yeah, because you're in rehab
Speaker 1: in like a couple of episodes.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's such fun.
Speaker 1: Why would Kelly do drugs like it?
Speaker 2: Just? Come on?
Speaker 1: Why is she dating this loser? I hate Colin Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's so lame.
Speaker 2: Back at the dorm, Joe was working with the bird
Speaker 2: some more. Joe loves Donna. Joe loves Donna. I like
Speaker 2: to break it up with that. That's that's you know what.
Speaker 1: I want to give my girlfriend a gift that requires
Speaker 1: her to clean up poop all the time.
Speaker 2: And feed it every day and talk to interact with
Speaker 2: it because it's it needs like personal and a bird
Speaker 2: like that and need like to have.
Speaker 1: You're right about birds. They live for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it's Christmas at the Walls House. Everyone
Speaker 2: is gathered and is happy. Joe arrives with the gift
Speaker 2: and tells there's so much love gray and Donna names
Speaker 2: her cutie Pie. She's so happy, seepee. And then the bird,
Speaker 2: instead of saying Joe loves Donna, starts saying Dan bird,
Speaker 2: Dan bird, Dam bird. I just like to sound like
Speaker 2: a bird. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: Try it so.
Speaker 2: It was exhausting. Yeah, Colin promises Kelly to never drunk
Speaker 2: again and says it was a stupid mistake.
Speaker 1: Sure, we find out that they're some past drug use.
Speaker 1: We find out that this happened this summer. You say,
Speaker 1: at one point you promised me this wouldn't happen again
Speaker 1: after this summer. So we find out this guy's got
Speaker 1: a problemo.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's why she's perturbed with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I find him to be the fact that he's
Speaker 3: snorting coga on Christmas Day, but whatever, like sit he
Speaker 3: has learned something from this three day midlife crisis.
Speaker 2: And she says, home is where your father is.
Speaker 1: Mecht of all, it's all resolved. I'm sorry, No is
Speaker 1: so happy.
Speaker 2: We're probably being so offensive to Larry Mullen who wrote this,
Speaker 2: but watching it back now, it's just like what were
Speaker 2: they thinking?
Speaker 1: Thousand percent? And I'm not even saying it's like written badly,
Speaker 1: Like it's sort of like it's.
Speaker 2: Just the storyline and how fast everything happens and how can.
Speaker 1: You yeah, like just resolving with the bou resolving with
Speaker 1: the bow. I'm sorry. If you find out your father
Speaker 1: is your biological father, cheated on your mother, you're not adopted.
Speaker 1: That is like a year of therapy.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they choose to take a storyline that has
Speaker 2: some meat like that and pull it out over a
Speaker 2: few episodes at least, because I mean, the show is
Speaker 2: a serial series now, meaning that like what happens in
Speaker 2: one episode continues on to the next episode and then
Speaker 2: the next, Like I don't know if the if the
Speaker 2: format is changing so that it's kind of like a
Speaker 2: one off, like where I think this is a one off,
Speaker 2: but it's not, because Kelly's storyline is just.
Speaker 1: True, right, And I don't know where that bird goes?
Speaker 2: Do we ever see the bird again?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I gotta hope so I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I feel like I think he's still, like we do.
Speaker 2: I want to see him. That's it, that's way we do.
Speaker 2: We really talked some smack about this one. What do
Speaker 2: you give it? What do you rate it?
Speaker 1: Nine? I mean, I love it eight? Eight or nine?
Speaker 1: I love it, but it's so ridiculous. I love the ridiculousness,
Speaker 1: is I guess the best way to say it.
Speaker 2: There's something comforting about it, right, yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I remember I was eating some soup watching
Speaker 1: it and just kind of going some mushroom soup sort
Speaker 1: of just going, this is absurd. Another bite, This is absurd.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha, Like I love this so much,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Is he doing cocon a pocket knife?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Like? Do you remember watching it with your sorority? Do
Speaker 2: you remember?
Speaker 1: Yes? What's so weird is I can remember the drug stuff,
Speaker 1: and I can remember the Joe and Donna stuff. I
Speaker 1: did not recall Jim and Cindy's twenty year marriage falling
Speaker 1: apart for an episode.
Speaker 2: Maybe because you were young and you didn't care about.
Speaker 1: I just didn't. Maybe I just was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: how it goes. I guess yeah, I just I was
Speaker 1: like the rest. I told Rember and I love this
Speaker 1: season because I really remember being so in with Joe
Speaker 1: and Donna, like, oh my god, this guy is great.
Speaker 1: This guy is so great. This should be forever. And
Speaker 1: I can remember the all the stuff with Rebecca Gayheart too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's certain things where it's just holes. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 2: I know, Well, Jim does return.
Speaker 1: I think like James Bachouse does come back.
Speaker 2: It's good to hear. I think everybody's doing their best,
Speaker 2: so I'll give it a nine too. How about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just so many drugs. Buckle up, you're about
Speaker 1: to be a big drug addict.
Speaker 2: For like my couple episodes, terrified to watch, We'll.
Speaker 1: We resolve it almost as quickly as the cult, I think.
Speaker 2: Oh good, good, then it won't take that.
Speaker 1: That's it, you guys.
Speaker 2: We we did our best to break this episode down,
Speaker 2: and we hope that you enjoyed our little We.
Speaker 1: Can't forget to ask Tory if the bird was inspired
Speaker 1: by her bird?
Speaker 2: Yes, and we can't. I want to know. Is that
Speaker 2: the bird the bitter nose?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I bet it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that would be insane if that's the bird, But
Speaker 2: I think the bird would. I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: that was a difference.
Speaker 1: I had to get a cast bird like stunt bird.
Speaker 1: Tory's bird was going to be able to on Q
Speaker 1: say damn bird, damn bird.
Speaker 2: No, Lorraine's right. Tory's bird was named Charlie, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: But we don't know what this that's its real name.
Speaker 1: This was an actor bird like that could still be
Speaker 1: the bird, just playing a different character.
Speaker 2: This is Judy Pie. The bird that bit Tory's nose
Speaker 2: was a different bird. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: But Jo loves Donna, Joel loves Donna.
Speaker 2: Dam Bird, Dan Bird, Dan Bird. I just want to
Speaker 2: imitate birds all day. You guys, love you so much.
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, and uh.
Speaker 1: Honey rock happy happy sales at QBC.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh you guys. You need to know this
Speaker 2: next episode is season six, episode sixteen, and you're probably
Speaker 2: gonna have trouble finding that one. So if you have
Speaker 2: the DVDs or you have access to the DVD collection,
Speaker 2: you're gonna watch episode sixteen.
Speaker 1: This is season six. I'm buying the DVDs right now.
Speaker 2: It's called turn Back the Clock, and there's some great
Speaker 2: music in this episode coming up and a special guest
Speaker 2: star that you don't want to miss.
Speaker 1: Seventeen bucks I'm spending right now. Just want everyone to know,
Speaker 1: seventeen bucks. These DVDs are going for a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're just buying one episode and it's seventeen dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm buying the season season six. Oh man, Okay,
Speaker 1: all man, I've got seventeen dollars for this show. I'm
Speaker 1: good with it.