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Speaker 1: Well, hey, everybody, it's me Rosie O'Donnell. You have found

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Speaker 1: the show onward? Well, it's not a show, is it

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Speaker 1: as a podcast? A show? I don't even know. I

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Speaker 1: have a special guest in my little opening segment today,

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Speaker 1: my very close friend, more like a brother than a friend. Truthfully,

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Speaker 1: how long have we known each other? Bobby Pierce, Tony

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Speaker 1: nominated costume designer.

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Speaker 2: God, it's twenty nine years, maybe ninety four, right, thirty yeah,

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Speaker 2: thirty years, thirty years, yeah, ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years. We have known each other and been in

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Speaker 1: each other's lives. We met doing Greece on Broadway. Our

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Speaker 1: good friend Jason Opsall rest in peace, Jason. He said

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Speaker 1: to me, I know a great dresser for you when

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Speaker 1: you start as Rizzo, And it was you, Boby Pears.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it's been this long time?

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Speaker 3: Years?

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Speaker 4: My god, I know.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe how old we are now?

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Speaker 4: Bob?

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Speaker 1: You and I lost a good friend. Yeah, the theater

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Speaker 1: world lost a legend. Lisa lost her mom, the beautiful

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Speaker 1: and talented Cheetah Rivera right, and I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: and we would talk about you know, some of our

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Speaker 1: favorite memories of her. How did you first meet Cheetah, Bobby?

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Speaker 2: I used to design clothes for Gwen Verdon and I

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Speaker 2: met Chetah through Gwen and I designed her tour, her

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Speaker 1: And you have done costumes for her entire career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah much, not all of hers, but but yes, I

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Speaker 1: Aren't alive then? Right, exactly thirty years older than us,

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Speaker 1: Chetah passed away in her sleep in her home and

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Speaker 1: ninety one years old. And what an amazing life she lived.

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Speaker 1: She is ever ever unkind to any person. She is

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Speaker 1: such a supporter of people, and she was kind to

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Speaker 1: every person in the world, and she went above and

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Speaker 1: beyond to let you know that she loved you. Right,

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Speaker 1: how would you say, how would you say? How would

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Chitta, there's no one like Chietah.

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Speaker 2: She really was a giant star. But she was just

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Speaker 2: like a Broadway broad She's like everyone's pal, you know.

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Speaker 2: She really considered herself a Broadway gypsy, just a dancer

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Speaker 2: queen of all the gypsies on Broadway. Like all the

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Speaker 2: dancers loved her, all the crew loved her. I don't

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Speaker 2: ever remember any any bad story or negative story about

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Speaker 1: Met her, Nor do I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just really really special and really really talented,

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Speaker 4: And I remember when we when you opened Taboo.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I did a produced a musical that Bobby

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Speaker 1: was nominated for a Tony Award for designing the costumes Taboo.

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Speaker 1: What year was that, Bob, Because my brain's all.

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Speaker 4: Jump two thousand and three, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and three, I think you're right. And so

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Speaker 2: Right, And she didn't wanted to go see the show,

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Speaker 2: but she had just had hip surgery, so she called me,

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Speaker 2: to be like Cheetah limping into the theater. So she

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Speaker 1: But imagine her showing up the.

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Speaker 1: The day was unbelievable, yeah, you know. And shortly after that,

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Speaker 1: She was so she was so maternal and so loving.

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Speaker 1: And when we opened the school, Rosie's Theater kids, she

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Speaker 1: And you know what I love most about her, Bob,

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Speaker 1: You would always see her brothers and every time she

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Speaker 1: She was very much family person, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: And she treated other people like families. She she treated

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Speaker 2: she was very, very loving, and we're going to miss her.

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Speaker 2: She's so insanely talented.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny when I was looking at Instagram

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Speaker 1: It was Cheetah all day, all day, as you know, deservedly.

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Speaker 1: So she just did so much for so many And

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Speaker 1: how do you feel, Bob, because we're the same age

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Speaker 2: It's really strange and it's really like Cheetah. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Cheetah was ninety one years old. We knew eventually it

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter how old the person was, because

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. And it's still just it

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Speaker 2: Remember a quote that Queen Elizabeth said after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 2: and she said that grief is the price of love.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I.

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Speaker 2: So whenever I feel sad about something like this, I

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Speaker 4: Amount of grief that you have right now is just

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt the same way. Absolutely, But listen,

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Speaker 1: and she will be missed, but she will be remembered forever, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: absolutely forever. Well, I love you, Bob, thanks for doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a sobbing. I know it's sad, not easy,

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Speaker 1: But thank you, And I want to tell everybody else listening.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be back with a wonderful interview I

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Speaker 1: did with Derek Downey who has that wonderful little squirrel Maxine,

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Speaker 1: and and what a story of squirrels and life and

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Speaker 1: love and uh, that's what we got for you today.

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Speaker 1: So stick around, would you. It's onward with Rosie o' donald.

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Speaker 3: Eric.

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Speaker 1: It is so nice to get to talk to you

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Speaker 1: finally after following you and having our text DM thing

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Speaker 1: back and forth. I so admire you and you fill

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 5: And I must say it is a pleasure and an

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Speaker 5: honor to share this moment with you right now. We

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's so funny. You know my first squirrel,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get into how you got Richard

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Speaker 5: Around my neighborhood and there's tons of squirrels where I live,

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Speaker 1: Now, had you had any opinions about squirrels before you

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Speaker 5: No, I've always been a nature person, always loved all

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Speaker 5: But my first pet was a hermit crab my teacher.

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Speaker 1: That's a wild thing, you know, when you were saying

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Speaker 1: Well you know why, I really did see we were

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Speaker 3: Thank you in your words. I was a cutic.

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Speaker 5: So my mind went everywhere, and I created it. People

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Speaker 3: Many people that came out of a dark place with me.

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Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. Really, is how I know you had Richard,

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Speaker 5: That relationship probably happened a few months after I showed

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Speaker 1: Well, she's stole your heart by giving you grand babies.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Now this story is magic many times over, Derek, it's magical,

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Speaker 5: You were gone too long. So she said, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Now, you moved out here to California to become an actor?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: here sign with an agency for commercial work, and they

442
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 5: thought I lived out here, so I said, okay.

443
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: In order for me to work in this city, I

444
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: got to actually.

445
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 5: Live here, so I got in my car, I pat

446
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 5: that car up, and I drove out here two weeks later.

447
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 5: Didn't really have a plan.

448
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: Had you studied acting? Had you done acting in college

449
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: or community theater? No? Never, never did anything.

450
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: No study. The only work that I've done.

451
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 5: Was being in front of my own camera doing comedy skits.

452
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: So I yeah, I enjoyed comedy and showing up in

453
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 5: a goofy way. I would do parodies of different like

454
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: either viral moments or movies, and that was my you know,

455
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: my experience. I moved out here and then started taking classes.

456
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, no classes prior to me.

457
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: And did you know anyone, Derek when you moved out here?

458
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: And how old were you when you did it?

459
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 5: Like?

460
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: How old are you now?

461
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: I am thirty one?

462
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were in your twenties and you knew

463
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: if I didn't go, now, I'm not going. And so yes,

464
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: you came and you yes, and you did you like

465
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: it right away? Did you feel comfortable? Did you make

466
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: friends easily?

467
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 5: Well, thanks to social media, I knew people already, so

468
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: it wasn't that hard to how they say, fine.

469
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: A tried right.

470
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: I had people that I could lean on when I

471
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: did move out here.

472
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: I had a friend whose name was Terrell.

473
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 5: He allowed me to stay with him and I was

474
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: sleeping on his couch for a few months, and then

475
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 5: I got a job, a part time job because friends

476
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: were running low.

477
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: And from there I stayed.

478
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 5: With another friend, and then I eventually moved to where

479
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 5: I live now. But throughout the entire process of figuring

480
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 5: out where was I going to be, what was I

481
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 5: going to do, there was no worry. Even there was

482
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: a moment where I was living sleeping in.

483
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: My car for like two weeks.

484
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 5: I promise you there was not one doubt or ounce

485
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: of worry in my heart or mind because I knew

486
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: that everything would be okay. The storm always goes away,

487
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 5: and as long as I see it through, everything will

488
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 5: be all right.

489
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: So true.

490
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you get so wise for such a

491
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: young man? You're so wise. I really feel the calmness

492
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: inside of you, and it comes through on the camera

493
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and your love for your squirrels and just talking now,

494
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: you're really some exceptional human being, Derek.

495
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: I would say I get that from looking at life, right,

496
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: not just my life, but looking at how other people

497
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: deal with situations.

498
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: Learning to oh, I don't want to have that.

499
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: Experience, so I'm not going to do it right. I

500
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: don't want to go down this path, so.

501
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that.

502
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: I also have my grandma, my mom my sisters to

503
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: thank for what they instilled within me. But I've always,

504
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: as a kid, been very observant of what was going

505
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: on around me. At a young age, I would hang

506
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: out with an older crowd just because that's what I

507
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: gravitated towards. I never really hung out with my age group.

508
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 5: There really wasn't nothing stimulating to my mind within that group.

509
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Nothing nothing, no shade, nothing against that.

510
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: But that wasn't where I thought exactly. It wasn't where

511
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: you were, right. But it takes a strong person to

512
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: listen to that inside voice like that. You know, did

513
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: they ever find out what the medical thing was that

514
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: was going on and did that get taken care of?

515
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: Or it's still no, no.

516
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: No, I still don't know I went to When I

517
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: say I went to so many specialists, it was it

518
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: was really draining. But I still don't know to this day.

519
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: What I can say is that through it all and

520
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: through other methods that I found, I.

521
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: Know that I'm on a incline.

522
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: I'm on a better track, I know, like my body,

523
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: I'm starting to put on weight again.

524
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: My mental clarity is back. My headaches are gone.

525
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: The digestive issues I was having, that's gone now.

526
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: They tested for everything like lime disease and all that

527
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: and long COVID or something, you name it.

528
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: They tested for Okay, yes, chromes, like, they tested for everything,

529
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: and it was.

530
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: All coming back normal.

531
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 5: Like even I had a Pollnosky endosopy and they looked

532
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: at my insides because you know, a lot of digestive

533
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: issues and my colon and everything looks great. So I'm like,

534
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: oh my god, what is that. I was like, please

535
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: just tell me something bad. I wanted to hear something

536
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: bad that would have gave me the relief. Yeah, but

537
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: you're telling me that there's nothing wrong. I can't do

538
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: nothing with that.

539
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't have no approach for nothing is wrong.

540
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Right. There are so many people online going through similar

541
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: things not being able to get a diagnosis, and you know,

542
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: it's very scary. I mean, you're a young, strong, handsome

543
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: smart man. Your body shouldn't be, you know, disobeying you

544
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: with this time in your life.

545
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: You know, right, right, right, but I found other methods.

546
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: I started doing more holistic approaches, breath work, different herbs

547
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: that I use. All of it, I believe brought me

548
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: back to some sense of what I would say was normal.

549
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah at the time, right, so you're definitely feeling better.

550
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Though you're feeling better?

551
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: What, Yes, I feel great?

552
00:32:36,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Don't go away more with Derek right after this? Hey,

553
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: how did you ever learn to feed those baby squirrels?

554
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: How did you you just trial and error or did

555
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: you have someone come over and help you?

556
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 3: No, I searched online.

557
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 5: The first thing you want to take care of is

558
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: their hydration before they like eating anything, because if they're dehydrated,

559
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: they won't eat, and if they're too cold, they also

560
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 5: won't eat. So I had to get a space heater,

561
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: put them in a blanket, make sure that their bodies

562
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 5: were warm, and then I tried to feed them, but.

563
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Most of them wasn't home.

564
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: One of them drank a little bit, but thank god,

565
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 5: my neighbor text me because.

566
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna do.

567
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: I called so many wildlife et sperts, trying to take

568
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: them somewhere to get the proper help, but they were

569
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: all full, like everybody was filled to capacity because around

570
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: that time, a lot of you know, landscapers cut down

571
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: trees that's made in season, so baby snood baby squirrels

572
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: fall out.

573
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: Of the trees, so they just get filled up with Yeah.

574
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that people care enough to take them

575
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: to the place to save them.

576
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: You know.

577
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that that, you know, because some

578
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: people write me and they are rats with tails, and

579
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I used to feel that way. I understand

580
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I have to tell you I

581
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: got such a thrill yesterday when she came back because

582
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: I I honestly, I don't even know how to explain it.

583
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: I felt like, where'd she go? Did a cat get her?

584
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: Did another territorial thing happened? Because there was one guy

585
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him around either, Mister Big. He was

586
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: he had Mister Big was like a big old guy

587
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: and uh, he was sometimes not nice to the to

588
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: the girl ones or the littler ones.

589
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: You know, that's how they are, That's how the males are.

590
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: Matt Scene would come on the patio. It's just her,

591
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 5: It's all cool. But as soon as like good rat

592
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 5: Raymond sometimes Richard Luther anytime the male squirrels come around,

593
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: they bully her. All yeah, and I'm like, come on now, like, listen, stop.

594
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: Doing that, y'all.

595
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: I feel the same way.

596
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: There's no reason to do that. We got plenty of food.

597
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: You go on this side of the patio, and she

598
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: could stay over here.

599
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: But you know what I did. I just said, you know,

600
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: I went away for the weekend. And so I was like,

601
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: saw her right before I went away for the weekend,

602
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: and I knew it was her, and I talked to

603
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: her and she came really close and she looked for

604
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: a none in my hand, but I didn't have any,

605
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: but she let me pet her, and then I said,

606
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm going away for two days. I'll be back. And

607
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: when the day I got back, I just sat out

608
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: there and did what I normally do, just talk loud

609
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: and say I'm here. You want some nuts, come on

610
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: and suing them. They come. It's like I'm doctor Doolittle.

611
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, yeah. I had a similar story to that

612
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: where I was actually going home, going home to North

613
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: Carolina for my great grandmam homegoing, and prior to me

614
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: leaving that day, I didn't see that scene for like

615
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: two weeks and right before I got into uber.

616
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: When I was leaving the house.

617
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 5: She showed up, and I knew that was that moment

618
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: for her telling me it's going to be okay, right right,

619
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going home to lay my beautiful great

620
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: grandmama to rest. But that was that reassurance that she

621
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: was giving me. Yeah, So they show up just in time,

622
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 5: right on time.

623
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: Some people have said to me, do you think it's

624
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: your mom? You know, because my mom died in seventy three.

625
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I believe that, but I

626
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: do believe that there is a God spirit and every

627
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: living thing, and all you got to do is be

628
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: open to that channel in whatever form. Now. To me,

629
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: God is nature, right, God is the dolphins jumping in

630
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: your wake, swimming in the ocean, you know, watching a sunset.

631
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: That's when I feel the most present in my own

632
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: life in world, and so you know, it's it's very

633
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: helpful for my depression. I'll tell you that. And you

634
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: know what else is the light? The light is the

635
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: sun out here. I don't know if you feel the

636
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: difference from Atlanta, but the sun here to me is

637
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: life affirming, like it is every day you wake up

638
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and you feel the brightness and the possibility and the hope,

639
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes growing up and living in New York, you know,

640
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: getting through those seasonal affect disorder months of you know, November, December, January, February.

641
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: By the time mark came around, You're like, get me.

642
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, it was hard.

643
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: I enjoyed like going to the beach because I skate

644
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: a lot, so I like going to Manhattan Beach and

645
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: just being out there in the sun skating. It really

646
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: does I mean scientifically it's shown that the sun helps

647
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 5: with depression. Yes, right, yes, so just getting outside, getting

648
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 5: that fresh air, it does make a difference. And I

649
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 5: find myself connecting with God early in the morning, early

650
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: in the morning, and when I'm in silence, when I'm

651
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: solitude by myself, all of the answers come to me,

652
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: even when I'm not actually asking for anything, like the things,

653
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: they just come to me. And I wanted to point

654
00:38:53,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 5: something out earlier about purpose when I said, these squirrels

655
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 5: have given me that m hm. I moved here to

656
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: pursue acting, but I didn't know what what it looks

657
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 5: like like. I didn't have a goal, and you had

658
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 5: lean away on here.

659
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: A couple of episodes ago.

660
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: Lean Away is a friend of mine.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: Was something else, man, I really amazing.

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Speaker 3: She has been a great support for me in my

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: journey out here. I had a.

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00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: Moment where I was at her place and she asked me.

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: She was like, what are you, Like, what are you

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00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: doing out here? Like because nobody know, they just see

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00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: me on social media, like, what are your goals? Like?

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Speaker 5: What are you I was like, well, I moved out

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Speaker 5: here to pur suit acting, but I don't necessarily know

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Speaker 5: what that looks like.

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm just having fun and she said okay,

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Speaker 3: And I.

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Speaker 5: Knew she was asking me to try to figure out,

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Speaker 5: you know, ways to guide.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course I didn't know that.

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00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: I was just giving her the god honest truth, like,

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Speaker 5: I'm just out here. I know that I'm supposed to

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00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: be out here. What for don't know, but the squirrels

680
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 5: led me to where I'm at now. So when people

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00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 5: ask me this question now, the answer is completely different.

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Speaker 5: It's in the same vehicle, it's going the same place,

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00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: but it's now with purpose. I walk into places now

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00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 5: with purpose. The acting, the entertainment, the what I'm bringing

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00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 5: to the world looks different.

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00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: Creating something within my own.

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Speaker 1: And you know what it is, Derek. Authenticity is the

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00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: only thing our culture now craves in a deceptive world.

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00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: And you're so authentically you that it's inspiring to watch

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00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: you fill my heart with lots of dopamine or whatever

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00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: that's in my brain, I guess, but you fill my

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00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: heart with joy and you know and I want you

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00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: to know that. And your TikTok, which I know you

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Speaker 1: have over a million people or something, and all of

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00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: this is supposed to happen because you made it happen,

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00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: or more accurately, you allowed it to happen. Yes, you

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00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: allowed it to happen. Now listen, let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: I saw you saw Oprah? What was that about? Wasn't

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00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: that you saw what happened? Did you meet Oprah before

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00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: and then you saw and you had to go in

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: there to new skinny Derek? What was that about?

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00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 5: Yes? So me and Oprah had all right. Like I

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00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: told you, I used to create comedy skits, right Oprah.

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00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: This was I believe, right before the pandemic. She announced

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00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: her new book book Club, and she did like a

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00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: promo for it and everything.

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00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: So I did a parody to it.

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: I had this horrible wig on that I know Oprah wouldn't.

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00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: Dare to look at.

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: I had this like everything was just you know, the

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00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: funny of it.

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00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: And I did the.

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00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: Exact replica of her promo video. She saw it, Gail.

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00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 5: They put it on the news to talk about the

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00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: book club, and she send me a personal video back.

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00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

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00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: So she was saying, Hey, I love the video you did,

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00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: but next time, I'm gonna send you some girls, meaning

719
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: her wig. She said, I'm gonna send you some batter

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00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: hair because what.

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Speaker 4: You what you had on with, we can't do that again.

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: So a few years later, what a few months ago, at.

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Speaker 5: The the Color Purple premiere in La.

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00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: I saw her walking and I.

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00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 5: Was like, I'm not too cool, Like I'm not going

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00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: to play that. I'm not too cool to go up

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00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: to anybody. So I said, this is my moment. Let

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00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: me just go up, introduced myself. Uh, and that's exactly

730
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 5: what I did. I said, Hey, Oprah, I'm Derek, not

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Speaker 5: true if you remember? Then she said, oh yes, I

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00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: do remember, And mind you, everything moves fast like you know,

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00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 5: so we're still moving, we're walking, and I said, do

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Speaker 5: you mind if I get a picture with you? She said, absolutely,

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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 5: we can take a picture. Mind you, I wasn't ready

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Speaker 5: at all. I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm fumbling.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's my fall.

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Speaker 5: Lord, She said, are you ready? I said yes, Oh

739
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 5: my goodness, I wasn't ready. I got that picture and

740
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 5: it was so blurry.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's too good. But you did it, man. You

742
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: know that is that is a powerful uh powerful testament

743
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: to who you are.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: Not everybody will go right up to Oprah and say,

746
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Speaker 1: excuse me, miss oh remember I sent you a video,

747
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, but I loved the color purple. Didn't you

748
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: love that movie? Yes, oh my lord, I saw the

749
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Speaker 1: Broadway Musical many times. Of course, the original is epic,

750
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Speaker 1: but I think this is a joyful, beautiful, wonderfully artistic movie.

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00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it.

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Speaker 5: It was to me, it was a good blend of

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Speaker 5: like the Broadway meets like the film, like how they had.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I agree, it was good. Listen, Derek, you're delightful.

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00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: I have loved talking to you. Thank you for being

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00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: on my podcast. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Also, I want to give you so I didn't say,

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Speaker 5: but let's say it now. I have a children's book

759
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: coming out. Oh great, it is with me and Matt

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00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 5: Sing and it is actually the story of me saving

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Speaker 5: her babies right from the cutdown tree.

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Speaker 3: So I would love to get that to you.

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Speaker 1: I would love to sow your career. I read it

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Speaker 1: to my kiddo, so thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 1: I still have an eleven year old, as you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's fun. Yes, it's fun, life, honey, ride the ride.

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00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you for doing this, and carry

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Speaker 1: on and I will see you online.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more after this. No time for

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Speaker 1: questions today. Thank you very much for listening. Next week,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking all about my guide dog,

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00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the experience, and I'm going to be crying a lot.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to tune in and hear how

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00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: emotionally wrecked I am over this dog, the addition to

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00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: our family, and the benefit that it's already showing on

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Speaker 1: my kiddo, tune in next week right here on onward