WEBVTT - 019 Rich on Tech Radio Show - May 13, 2023 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.800 Google explains how it will be bold yet responsible with AI, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.200 and unveils a five hundred dollars pixel, a foldable pixel, 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.880 and a pixel tablet. The best anti virus programs, and 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.160 watch out for this new Chrome scan that might install 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.079 mildware on your computer. It can trick anyone. Oh yeah, 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.920 plus your tech questions answered. What's going on on rich 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.480 Demiro And this is rich on Tech, the show where 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.760 I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.360 know about. It's also the place where I answer your 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.000 questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.680 five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. This is 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:47.520 show number nineteen. Whoo number nineteen. Phone lines are open 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.680 at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.120 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.000 me a call. If you have a question about technology, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.040 email is also open. Just send it to hello at 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:08.920 richon Tech dot TV. Well hello there from Austin, Texas. Yeah, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.280 here for the Iheartcountry Festival. This is a concert that 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.840 we are going to. Very exciting. So of course Austin 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.600 a little bit different than Los Angeles. So we got 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.640 in and we immediately went and got some barbecue and 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.120 What I love about the world of Instagram and social 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.520 media is that there are so many suggestions from folks. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.200 It makes it really easy to pick where to go. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:37.560 So I put a. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.760 Story on my Instagram saying, hey, where do you think 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.560 we should go to eat while we're in Austin? And 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.679 I got lots of good suggestions, and so of course 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.120 I just took the best ones that bubbled up to 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.240 the top, that were the most. So if I got 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.840 the most suggestions for a place, clearly a lot of 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.560 people like it, a lot of people have been there. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.880 So we picked our barbecue place last night based on 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.240 you and it was excellent. It was exactly what I want, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.800 cafeteria style. You walk through the line, it kind of 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.920 snakes through all the different food, and then they carve 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.600 up the barbecue right in front of you. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:09.520 And it was. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.880 Delicious, so so good. So thank you for your suggestions 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:14.720 on my Instagram. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.360 At rich on. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.400 Tech last night, we also went out for a little bit. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.400 You know, it's a very lively city and I've been 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.760 here a bunch of times for south By Southwest. My 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.520 wife has never been here, so it was kind of 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.880 exciting for her to see it for the first time. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.280 And of course we took in some live music, which 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.080 is there are many many places to do that here. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.400 But I noticed something that's kind of interesting that the 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.359 performers now instead of sort of a tip jar, which 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.240 they still kind of have, but they all have these 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.520 QR codes that you can scan to tip them via 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.720 Venmo or the cash app. And I thought that was 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:56.639 interesting because, I mean, the tip the cash tip is still. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.720 I think the best thing out there. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:02:59.560 Now. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.800 There's a lot of reasons why you want to have 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.359 that QR code. It's because people aren't carrying as much 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.520 cash these days, and so I get that, but it 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.720 just feels weird to scan a code and give someone 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.280 a tip versus just going up there and giving them 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.160 a couple of bucks. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:15.680 And I get it. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.000 Maybe people tip more because it's Venmo, and like, are 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.800 you really going to tip a dollar on Venmo? 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:20.120 Now? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.600 You're probably gonna give like five bucks. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.360 So maybe it's a better thing that they have both options, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.079 but I just thought that was interesting. Also, the hotel 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.200 where we're saying is kind of cool. It has a 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.680 record player in the room. So I chose the hotel 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.280 because that was kind of the the thing that I 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.640 thought was really neat to have a record player in 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.000 the room. So we actually got to our first room 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.600 and the first thing I looked for was the record player, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.680 and lo and behold, no record player. And I was like, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.920 wait what The one thing I wanted at this hotel 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.440 was the record player in the room. They didn't have 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.640 it in the room, and so I called down to 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.800 the front desk. I said, no, it's there. Just look around. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.400 I said, I can see the entire room where I'm 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.200 standing right now, and I don't see a record player. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:03.800 Oh, we can bring one up. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.600 So I went back down to the room, went back 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.800 down and said, you know, can you just give us 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.640 a room that has it? And they said, sure, we'll 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.640 give you a different room. So we get in the 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.760 other room and sure enough, record players right there. They 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.760 also have a record concierge, so they have a person 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.640 whose job it is to help you select records. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.320 So you go down to the lobby. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.240 The person standing there, obviously they know music, and gave 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.680 us about five or six albums. Said hey, start the 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.400 night out with this and the night with this. And 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.960 it was so great because I'm putting on records something 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.840 I haven't done well. I mean, look, I grew up 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.400 with record with a record player in my home. It 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.200 was not something I typically used, like my era started 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.359 a little bit more with tapes and then CDs and 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.840 then MP three's and then streaming so and of course 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.960 you know FM radio, so delivering my newspapers, listening to 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:59.279 my FM radio walkman. But the record player was something 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.200 we had and it was really neat, so I was 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.800 aware of how it worked, and so I didn't know 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.159 if I was going to know how to put the 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.480 record on and play it. But sure enough, I put 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.960 the little record on, I moved the needle. You get 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.360 that little crackly sound at the beginning, and it plays 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:16.120 the music and it just was really fun because it's 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.560 a record and it's not something that you typically do. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.120 But the problem with the record, and. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.080 I remember this from one of my best friends who 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.080 happens to be from Texas, and he would always have 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.800 a record playing when we went to dinner at his 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.120 place and we'd go over there and you know, he'd 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.840 play the record and the problem was the record would 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.160 stop after about a half an hour. And you know, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.839 I don't know what a side of a record last. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.560 It didn't seem like it's more than a half an hour. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.440 But we've become so accustomed to unlimited music that it's 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.800 kind of odd to have something stop. But on the 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.719 flip side, when you are putting a record on, it 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.359 is very is a very mindful activity, right. You can't 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.400 just randomly listen to music. When you're putting a record on. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.839 You have to select the record, you have to take 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.880 it out of its sleeve, you have to place it 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.000 on the record player, you have to move that needle 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.120 and you are playing something. If you're using one of 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.120 these music apps, there's no way you just press shuffle 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.640 and it starts and it goes on forever and ever 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.560 and ever. This is a much more mindful way of 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.880 listening to music, so you know the album, you know 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.799 the artist, and it's a different experience. So I highly 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.599 recommend if you have not played with the record player 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:27.000 in a long time to try it now. Myself, I 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.080 have a Sonos system at home, and when I was 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:34.080 at CES, I saw this record player that connects to Sonos. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.680 It's let's see, what's the brand here, Victrola, which obviously 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.560 that's a brand that's been around forever. I'm not sure 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.560 if it's the same company ownership as it was back 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.200 in the day. But they have a turntable, the Aunks 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.440 that works with Sonos, so this wirelessly connects to your 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.840 sons Now. The reason I didn't buy it immediately when 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.440 I saw it at CES, even though I thought it 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.760 was cool, is because it's six hundred dollars. But after 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.920 talking to my wife last night and how much we 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.479 enjoyed this record hair situation, I think I may have 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.039 convinced her to let me invest in this record player. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 And it does work with my Sonos system. But then, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.080 of course now I have to start buying albums and 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.240 I've got to do that whole thing. But there's just 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.360 something so classic and so fun about listening to vinyl 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.640 that it's a very very neat experience. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.920 So I may do this. Ah, so much fun stuff 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:24.320 this week. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.360 Google Io was this week, which is Google's big developers conference. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.239 This was the first time in four years that Google 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.080 did something in person. So they've done their developers conference 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.200 throughout the pandemic, but it just wasn't really a big deal. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.000 They still had announcements, but this was the first time 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.480 in four years that you could go up there, and 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.720 so I did. I was in Mountain View earlier this week. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.360 Google does this at a place called Shoreline Amphitheater and 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.040 it's a big kind of outdoor amphitheater that they do 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.160 concerts at, but they also do Google Io and Google 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.800 Io is where they have developers come to sort of 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:02.000 see what tools are available to them to code apps, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.040 to code search things, to code Android, just what tools 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.800 Google is working on to let developers use in whatever 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.440 they're making that works with Google. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.400 And so it was really fun. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.720 It was such a great experience to go up there 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.520 and not just see all of the products, because they 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.280 announced three new products, a five hundred dollars pixel phone, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.000 a brand new eighteen hundred dollars foldable pixel phone that's 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.600 something I'm also trying to maybe that might be my 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.040 next phone, and also a pixel tablet. But by going 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.600 to these events, it gives me the perspective I need 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.560 to be able to talk about these products. And later 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.360 in the show we're going to talk to someone else 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.640 that was there as well and talk to them and 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.120 kind of get their thoughts on all these different things. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.920 And this show is going to be very Google heavy, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.720 I will admit, So if you don't like Google or 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.760 you have a problem with Google. You may not like 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.880 the show today, but I promise it's still going to 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.719 be fun. It's still going to be interesting, and we're 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.400 still going to have lots of calls and lots of 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.280 stuff to talk about. These events that I go to. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.960 It's a lot, you know. You go up there, there's 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.840 a lot of other journalists. We're all trying to get 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.320 our stories filed. I had to file mine for TV 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.960 for the next day. I was actually shooting my entire 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:15.200 story myself, So I went up there solo recorded everything 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.400 and then wrote the story and then sent it back 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.080 to my editor in Los Angeles. He edited it, and 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.880 then I flew back and then we were on the 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.600 news in the morning. So it's a lot, but it 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.040 was a lot of fun. It was a lot of challenge. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.760 But the best thing was that the internet was so 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.800 slow this year. I don't know why. I was on 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.880 Wi Fi and I had like twelve gigs of stuff. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.440 I had to send twelve gigabytes of stuff like video 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.560 that I just sent down to Los Angeles, and it 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:40.760 just wasn't happening. It was giving me like hours and 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 hours of time that it was going to take. And 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.800 I was like that's not going to work. So I 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.199 found a wired Ethernet connection. I plugged my computer in 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.040 and I'm not kidding. It was the fastest Internet I 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.120 think I've ever seen in my life. Because the twelve 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.840 gigabytes that was taking about seventeen hours to go up 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.080 via the Wi Fi. It went up in about I 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.920 would say less than a minute. It was maybe sixty seconds. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.560 And I texted my photographer and I said, hey, everything's up. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.840 It's ready to go, and he's like, what changed? I said, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.559 I found some Ethernet. So if you ever need stuff 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.240 to go up much faster, just find an Ethernet connection 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.440 and I'm sure that will take care of it. All right, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.800 I've got lots more to talk about with Google throughout 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.960 the show. I'm gonna talk about all the different hardware announcements, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.640 the way AI is gonna get into more things. We're 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.040 gonna talk about how search is changing. There is so 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.480 much to talk about when it comes to Google. So 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.160 we're gonna talk about all of that. But I've got 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.040 some great guests as well coming up on today's show. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.920 So we're gonna do the Pixel, We're gonna do the 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.400 Pixel tablet, We're gonna do the pixel fold. Then I've 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.200 got some great guests. We've got Miriam Juar of the 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.800 Mobile Tech Podcast. They're gonna join me to talk all 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.280 things Google, especially that pixel seven A and that fold. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.560 I've got n gadget Sherlyn Lowe to explain the difference, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.359 to explain her experience with Project Starline. This is Google's 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:03.120 holographic version of Zoom. It's quite incredible. It's quite interesting, uh, Sherilyn. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.120 We will talk about that and then later. If you've 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.200 got a gamer in your life, they're playing one of 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.600 two games right now. They're either playing Zelda or they're 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.959 playing the new game from Pokemon Go Paradot. So we're 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.640 gonna talk to Eric Switzer ofthegamer dot com about those 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.480 two games, which are a lot of fun. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.120 But first it is your turn. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.160 We've got your phone calls coming up next at triple 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.559 eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.280 four to two four one zero one. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.760 You are listening to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Demiro. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.080 We'll talk to you coming up next. Welcome back to 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:41.200 rich on Tech. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:47.840 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology from Austin, Texas. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.439 The phone lines are open at triple eight rich one 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.560 O one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.720 to one zero one. Welcome to the show Google Io 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.600 held this week up in Mountain View, California. I was there, 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.560 and everyone's sort of wondering what Google is going to 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.319 do with AI. Google has some of the best AI 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.920 engineers in the world. They've been talking about AI long 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.640 before it was cool, long before every other company has 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:17.760 jumped on the bandwagon. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.280 And I don't think that. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.400 Google is going to get AI wrong because number one, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.920 they're already using it in so many little ways in 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.080 their products. Maybe they didn't talk it up as much, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:34.280 but they've always infused AI into a lot of their things. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.720 And so here are some of the new things coming 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.440 out with AI in Google. So number one, they showed 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.840 off this feature called help me Write in Gmail. So 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.800 in twenty seventeen we got something I can't believe it's 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.520 been that long. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:48.480 Called smart Reply. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.480 So these are the little replies when you're on the 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.120 Gmail app or the website that if someone says, hey, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.480 is lunch at twelve thirty, good for you, and at 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.720 the bottom it might say good for me. Sounds good, yep, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.960 And so you can just tap one of those and 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.280 send off the email, and that's called a smart reply. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.240 Then came smart Compose, which if you're typing an email, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.080 it will kind of complete your sentence. So if I 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.200 say something like sure, that sounds really good, it'll complete 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.760 that or great, it'll say to hear from you, and 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.640 you just press tab and it will complete your Gmail typing. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.280 So that's really cool. But now they've got help Me Write. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.880 This is an AI feature that will write your entire email. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.240 And what's neat about this is that it can use 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.000 details from a previous email. So the example they gave is, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.880 let's say your airline canceled your flight or changed your 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.640 flight or something. They said, hey, we're going to give 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.280 you a seventy five dollars credit. Well, you can respond 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.520 to that email and then say Google, help me write. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.600 Gmail helped Me Write, and it will take the details 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.920 from that previous email, your flight info, how much they 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.640 offered you, all that good stuff, and it will compose 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.720 an entire email with a couple of things from you. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.600 So you might say, help me write an email back 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.839 to this airline that says I don't think your seventy 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.920 five dollars is good enough. I think I deserve a 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.240 thousand dollars flight credit, and it will write the entire email. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:14.839 And then you can go ahead, after it writes the 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.760 entire email, say can you be more persuasive, and it 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.600 will even tweak it further. You can say can you 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 be more conversational? Can you be more fun? Whatever you want. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.240 So that is a really cool feature that's just going 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.680 to help people write entire emails. And like we've said before, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.360 everything is going to start with a first draft. From 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.840 now on, you're never gonna have to really write anything 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.760 from scratch, which is kind of wild because that's a 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.320 big departure from what we've experienced in the past. All right, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.200 in Google Maps, they've got this new immersive view. So 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.000 let's say, for instance, last night we were here in Austin. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.400 We were wondering if we can walk to the restaurant, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.960 and you're kind of curious, like, what are you walking through? 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.200 It looked like we were walking through a campus of 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.760 a college, and so can you do that? Well now 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.760 on Google Maps, because they've all of these images from 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.960 street view, and they've got all of these satellite images, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.440 they fuse them together for something called immersive view for routes. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.880 So you can actually take a look at the route 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.000 and take a bird's eye flyover view and see exactly 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.120 what it's going to look like to walk, drive, or 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.320 bicycle a certain route. Now, this reminds me of a 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.720 feature that All Trails recently put on their app, and 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.240 I told you about it on the show. I forget 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.520 what it's called, but it's like an immersive view as well. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.120 But you can take a look at what a trail 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.960 is going to look like before you hike that trail. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.840 And it's a very similar feature that Google has now introduced. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.120 So in the future we're gonna be able to ride 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.720 or drive or fly over a route before we actually 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:44.400 ever take it. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.360 So that's interesting. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.400 So that's maps that's going to roll out this summer 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.520 launch in fifteen cities by the end of the year, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.520 including London, New York, Tokyo, and San Francisco. The other 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.320 cool thing, of course, this is quite googly. You can 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.800 check the air quality, traffic, and weather to see how 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.080 they might change depending on the time of day that 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.640 you are taking that route. So they showed off that 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.280 as well. If it's going to be raining, you can 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.520 see that on the route and then in Google Photos 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.360 they've got this new Magic Editor experience. So this was 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:19.320 first introduced. The magic eraser was first introduced on Google Photos. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.840 That's where you can just circle something and have it 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.800 erase what's in a picture. But this is much more thorough. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.080 This will kind of transform everything in the picture. And 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.560 so the example they used is, let's say you've got 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.480 this kid sitting on a bench. Took a picture of 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.120 your kid holding some balloons on a bench, but you 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.840 kind of were a little bit too over, so the 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.840 balloons are cut off and you want to center up 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.320 the child a little bit more in the picture. Well 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.880 you literally just just take, you know, hover over the 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.920 child and then pull them over to the right into 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.840 the center of the picture, and AI will generate what's 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.320 missing from the left side of the picture. So all 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.640 of the balloons, it'll complete them, it will complete the bench, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.520 and the child can move over. And then of course 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.320 it will make the entire picture kind of smoothed out 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.480 so it doesn't look. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.840 Like you edited it. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.240 It will kind of make the lighting look right and 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.199 the sky look right, whatever you want. And this is 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.160 called Magic Editor, and that's coming out soon. It looks 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.160 like that is going to come out to Pixel owners first, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.560 so if you have a Pixel smartphone, that will come 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.080 to you first. But again, these are just some of 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.840 the small examples of AI that are coming to Google products. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.640 Those were the three big ones. They also showed off 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.960 what search is going to look like, and search is 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.320 now going to have AI at the top of your results, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.120 and then at the bottom are going to be those 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.760 ten blue links. So if you want to try these 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.680 things now, they actually have a certain website you can 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.520 go to. If you're searching on Google, you will see 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.440 a little kind of experimental beaker in the upper left 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.840 hand corner of your search. You tap that and you 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.280 can sign up to try some of these new features. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:17:59.639 First. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.600 All right, coming up, we've got Miriam Juar to talk 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.600 all things Google. Miriam's from the Mobile Tech podcast that's 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.520 coming up next right here on rich on Tech on 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.880 Rich Demiro plus your calls at triple eight rich one 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.080 O one. Welcome back to rich on Tech, Rich Demiro 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.200 here hanging out with you, talking technology at triple eight 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.680 Rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.080 to two, four to one zero one. If you have 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.680 a question about technology, give me a call. Maybe you're 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.840 trying to decide between two gadgets, figuring out if an 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.400 app can do something. Maybe you're stumped on something, give 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.280 me a call triple eight Rich one O one eight 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.560 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:47.879 You can also email hello at richontech dot TV. All right, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.240 My next guest is host of Mobile Tech podcast, Miriam 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.600 Juwar was up there in Mountain View with me at 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.359 the Google event and welcome to the show. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.320 Miriam. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:00.360 Hi, Why Rich? 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:00.920 How's it going? 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.439 It is going fantastic, So so much to talk about 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.480 from Google's big events. Where should we start. What was 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.000 your initial impression of sort of the event at large? 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.920 Lots of AI? I was like, why if I had 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:17.919 to summarize it, you know, lots of AI and some 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.800 cool devices, that would be my summary. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.080 And how do you think Google delivered with the AI stuff? 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.600 Because you know a lot of people are wondering this 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.480 is a big change in the way Google does business 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.960 because potentially, when you're asking AI for answers, you know 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.960 there might not be room for as much advertising as 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.639 there is in traditional search. So do you feel like 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.880 that's a threat to Google's kind of prime business? 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.520 I think ultimately it is, but I think they were 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.880 prepared for it, you know they have. When they announced 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.159 bart I thought, hey, there, this is this is the 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.439 first shoe to drop, and the second shoe will be 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.080 adding you know, some sort of eye to search. And 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.000 then of course, you know, there's the whole they've been 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.920 working on Palm, you know now that Palm two, which 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.280 is there, you know, a large language model for a 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.960 while now, and that seems to be getting integrated in 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:09.000 so many products. That's the thing that really surprised me. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.159 It wasn't just search, but they have, like, you know, 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.720 ways for Gmail to improve your email writing. They have 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.360 ways for you to create documents and Google docs. They 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.399 have ways to if you're a Google Cloud customer, to 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.800 integrate the AI into that. So it's not just a 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.440 consumer play, it's like a business play. They're going basically 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.359 all in and it makes sense. They don't really have 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:31.000 a choice. 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.480 Yeah, and also they're really good at AI, and it 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.119 kind of makes sense for what the products that they offer. 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.359 They've always been largely infused with a sort of an 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.159 AI machine learning kind of stuff, but nowadays it's like, okay, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.040 AI is the hot thing, so let's let's just go 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.600 all in on that. Okay, So we also saw a 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.440 lot of products, well three products in particular. We saw 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.080 a five hundred dollars Pixel seven A, and we saw 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.240 an eighteen hundred dollars Pixel fold which is a foldable phone, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.359 and then we also saw a Pixel tablet. So let's 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.160 start with that seven A. So this is the five 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.720 hundred dollars kind of entry level Pixel phone. They made 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.520 some improvements this year, things like face unlock, it's got 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.199 a little bit more ram, it's got a better display. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.480 But this is a I think, from everything I've heard 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.960 from everyone talking about it, a really solid choice for 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.600 an entry level phone, even though it is fifty dollars 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.800 more than it was, you know, in years past. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:28.040 So what do you make of this phone? 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.800 Well, I think it's a proper flagship for five hundred dollars, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.800 which is quite the feat. You know. I think that 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.560 the Pixel A series with this seven as finally gone 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.240 from you know, a mid ranges phone with some flagship 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:45.520 features to a proper flagship and fifty dollars more. For that, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.719 I think it's worth it. But it tells me another story, 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.359 and the story is that, you know, Google's try to 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.080 simplify a little bit all those new products include the 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.800 same new ten Sergy two chip that came with the 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.520 Pixel seven and seven Pro in the fall, so they're 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.439 using a flagship chip on everything. And in addition to that, 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.520 you know, we're seeing these this this Pixel seven A 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.879 gaining things like high refresh rate niney hertz display, like 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:15.680 wireless charging. So that tells me the Pixel eight right 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.920 that is going to replace the seven which is right 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.320 now only one hundred dollars more than this new seven 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.080 A is probably going to cost more and might have 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.600 more features, because it would be nice to space them 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.160 two hundred dollars apart right now. You know, the seven 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.560 A starts at five hundred, then you had six hundred, 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.320 you got the seven which is you know, almost identical really, 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.480 and then you know, like the nine hundred dollars you 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.720 have the seven Pro and that's a big jump, right, 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.600 So I'm thinking two hundred dollars apart once they eight 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.199 and eight pro land in October. But for now, I 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.560 think this is a killer phone if you can, you know, 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.480 kind of pry yourself away from Apple or Samsung, which 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.920 are the two dominant phonemakers in North America and the 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.480 US in particular. I would say, this is a killer 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.680 package for the money. It has absolutely everything you need. 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.800 It is the phone that I trust my mom with, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.320 so I get her the Google the kind of the 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:13.560 A or one of the pixels. 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.720 Every year or not every year, every. 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.720 Time she upgrades, and it's always it's always a fantastic device, 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.399 and people are always saying like, how are your pictures 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:21.720 so good? 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:22.840 How are your pictures so good? 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.800 The thing that she doesn't get is the like you mentioned, 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.760 the whole I message world, which you know, Apple has 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.760 been really really good about keeping that exclusive to their products, 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.600 and it makes sense because it keeps a lot of 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.800 people on their devices. All right now, this pixel fold 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.520 this is an eighteen hundred dollars device. This is not 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.760 going to be for everyone, but it's actually pretty good. 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.560 I mean, I'm sitting here like, could this be my 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.359 next phone? Because I'm ready. I'm kind of bored with 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.760 the standard phones at this point. I've tested all of them, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.240 and this one is really unique because it opens up 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.920 to a giant seven point six inch screen, so that's 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.040 kind of like a tablet size. On the outside of 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.320 the phone, you get a nice I think it's a 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.080 five point eight in screen that's actually usable, unlike the 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:06.800 Samsung one. 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:08.680 So tell me your thoughts about this phone. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.639 Well, you know, I'm a pixel user. I have a 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.320 Pixel seven pro, so obviously very interested in a folding pixel. 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:15.280 This is it. 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.320 There are obviously some things that could be better, but overall, 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.960 I think this is a proper competitor to Samsung's Galaxy 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.879 z Fold four, which will be soon, you know, be 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.760 followed by a z Fold five. So let's see what 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.840 happens there. But I think, as you kind of nailed it, 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.280 the thing that really matters here is the form factor. 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:38.600 Right abroad in China and other countries in Europe, there's 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.879 a company named Oppo, and they make a folding phone 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.560 that has a similar form factor, more like a passport 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.520 so basically shorter height, a little wider rather than that 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.080 super skinny form factor that Samsung has been using with 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.359 the z fold series. And personally, I think this is 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.800 a better form factor because you can use it one 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.520 handed when it's shut, and then you can up to 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.560 this huge tablet experience I mean usual relatively speaking for 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.360 something that unfolds, and I think that's going to differentiate 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.119 this phone. And it's about the same price as the 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.199 Galaxy Z Fold. So you know, in that sense, I 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.320 think it's it's a pretty good competitor. You know, the pixel, 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.560 the tensor G two chip, the chip that runs the 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:26.200 show here is not as powerful as what Qualcom and 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.919 Media Tech can deliver these days, or even Apple with 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.199 their chips. So there's a bit of that, but I 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.399 think it mostly reflects in terms of battery life. So 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.200 we'll see in our reviews how battery life folds up. 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.479 We know the cameras are going to be killer, and 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.200 then you know, there's the other thing that I think 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.480 could be improved is the charging speed. Twenty one wht 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.280 is a little slow these days in the flagship space, 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.480 but look for a first try. It's one of the 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.760 thinnest falling phones you can buy six millimeters or something 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.560 slightly thicker than the Champion, which is a phone out 0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:01.800 of China called the Chami Mi Mix to fold. And 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.520 so you know, like you can complain. I think Google 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.360 did their homework and it does everything, has it does 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:08.880 have everything, and the kitchen sink. 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.800 So so the fold. 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.119 It's kind of funny because it's eighteen hundred dollars, but 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.440 they're giving you this this watch with it right, the 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.359 Pixel Watch, which is like three hundred and fifty to 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.040 four hundred dollars. So a lot of people are saying, 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.199 why don't you just not give me the watch and 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.320 take four hundred dollars off the price of this phone, 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.720 because fourteen hundred dollars seems a lot better. That's like 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.240 much more achievable if you really want something that's high end. 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.879 Well, you know, that's the thing that's been happening. A 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.320 lot of people are buying these flagship phones, whether they're 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.560 Pixels or Samsung or Apple even iPhones, you know, with 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.040 trade ins and getting deals right, and that they have 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.560 a lot of Pixel watches sitting around. It hasn't been 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.200 a super popular product, even though it's a great android 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.600 to watch right. So I think they're probably like, this 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.040 is a great way to kind of satisfy people without 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.080 you know, having to drop the price. And if you 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.720 look at the Pixel seven A, there's some great deals too. 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.640 If you get it directly from Google, you can get 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:07.199 a custom color called Coral, which is this orange superb color, 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.959 and then you can get a pair of Pixel buds 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.879 a for free. And I think if you buy it 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.840 from best Buy, you get a fifty dollars rebate like 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.199 a card you can use. So I think this is 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.400 kind of part for the course. I don't think this 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.800 watch thing is you know, a replacement for selling this. 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.320 That fourteen hundred is just kind of like, well, let's 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.440 sweeten the deal. But we I think they're not making 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.280 any money on this phone. There's no way, you know. 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.439 And I really fell in love with the Samsung by 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.119 the way, except for that tiny outside screen. I was 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.080 doing everything on the Fold. I was doing you know, 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.280 I was reading, like I used it as a kindle. 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.760 It was great because you can watch movies and videos 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.600 on it on the plane without any sort of like 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.400 extra you know, accessories, And it was just that outside 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.520 screen was so small. So the fact that Google made 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:58.120 this outside screen usable and it feels great in your hand, 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.879 like it's easy to hold, I think this phone is 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.760 actually an early winner. It's just the price point is 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.240 going to turn off so many people. 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.359 But then again, the price point turns off a lot 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.480 of people from the Galaxy Fold, you know. So I 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.000 think I think it's it's more it's harder to you know, 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.560 to accept that price when you know it's a pixel, right. 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.840 I think that's the problem. I think we're conditioned to 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.959 take whatever pricing Apple and Samsung gives us, and I 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.840 think this is something we should revisit because Google has 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.360 to make money. They can't just be completely losing money, 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.560 although I'm pretty sure they are not making money on this, 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.560 at least not much. I have used that Apple Find 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.280 and End two that has the same form factor as 0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.600 the pixel and I tell you it's a much better 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.240 form factor than the Z fold from Samsung. So I'm 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.640 very excited about the pixel fold having this new form 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.080 factor because I think for some you know, everybody's got 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.000 a different thing. Some people will prefer the fold, no doubt, 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.400 but for me, this is a better form factor for sure. 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.320 All right, Miriam Jouir of the Mobile Tech Podcast, how 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.120 can folks follow you online? 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:00.440 Simple? 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.200 The podcast leaves at Mobile tech podcast dot com and 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.840 we're on all the major platforms, so your podcast needs 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:07.800 just look for it. 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:08.440 It's called the. 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.920 Mobile Tech Podcast. And then of course you can find 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.840 me on Twitter at tank Girl, like the comic book character, 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.200 but you drop all the vowels, who ends up being 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:20.000 t NK g R L. And that's also my Instagram 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.840 if you want to see pretty pictures of phones and 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.000 cars and things I reviewed. 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.000 Awesome, You're always somewhere. Thanks so much for joining me today. 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.960 Miriam Duir of the Mobile Tech podcast. Coming up more 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.320 of your calls at Triple eight rich one oh one. 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.400 That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:36.240 zero one. 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:37.440 I'm gonna tell you. 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.840 About a new Chrome update error attack. You gotta watch 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.760 out for this one. It can fool anyone. You're listening 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:51.320 to Rich DeMuro here on rich on Techy. Welcome back 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.400 to rich on tech Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.760 talking technology. 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.840 At triple eight rich one oh one. 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.280 That's eight eight eight eight two four one zero one. 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.800 You can also email hello at richon tech dot TV. 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.400 Tom did just that, he said, I'm an executive level 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:16.480 IT leader, typically a chief information officer. My recruiter resources 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.640 are lacking contacts who can take my background and old 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.880 resume and overhaul it so it's great and scores high 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:27.360 when application tracking systems ATS evaluate it. That's sort of 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:28.600 those automated systems. 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.240 I'm hoping you know someone. 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:33.360 Or a tool that can help me overhaul my resume asap. 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:34.720 Thoughts. 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.360 Uh so, Tom, I think uh a service I did 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.560 a story with the guy who started the latterers dot com, 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.880 which is like a job search website, and he's got 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:52.600 a service called Leaked Resumes l E E t resumes 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.560 dot com. And I know this sounds kind of weird, 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.800 but they will help you write your resume for free. 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.760 I know it's so wild. There's not even a way 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.080 to pay. But here's what they do. So they will, 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:07.720 you know, you give them your old resume, you answer 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.520 a couple questions, they rewrite your resume, and of course 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.400 it's all driven for these, like you said, these ats 0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:18.280 system these application tracking systems. And then if you like 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.560 your resume, you tip your writer. And that's how it works. 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.640 They say the average tip is forty dollars. And you 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.680 know in the facts on the website it says, you 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:33.320 know what's the catch and it says, basically, if you 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:38.280 take your how much you make, let's see here what's 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.880 the hidden cost. So if you like your resume, we 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.320 recommend tipping your writer. Your salary in thousands divided by two, 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.760 So for instance, if you make eighty thousand dollars a year, 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.840 we recommend a forty dollars tip. So in addition, we'll 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.600 make introductions to job boards that can provide jobs with 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:58.640 titles you're looking for. So that's that's it. Lead Resumes 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.160 L E. E. Tmes dot com is the website. 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:02.800 Check it out. 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.400 I have not personally used this because I have not 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.960 written a resume in a long time, and I'm sure chat, 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:10.800 GPT and all these things can help you write it, 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.800 but it's kind of nice to have a human actually 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.640 help you write a resume, because it's just you need 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.520 that human touch every once in a while. A new 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.960 Chrome update error attack. I got to tell you about 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.040 this one because I'm looking at my Chrome right now 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.120 on my computer and it says update in the upper 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.080 right hand corner. And the way that Chrome updates is 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.040 it downloads the software in the background, the update to 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.840 the to the Chrome web browser, and then it gives 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.160 you this little message that says update, and then you 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.560 just relaunch Chrome to update it. It's very simple process. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.680 It's very easy. Well well, well, of course, the scam 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:54.280 artists have figured out a way to socially engineer the 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:59.480 Chrome updates. And here's what happens. This is according to 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:05.360 trend Micro, the new attack campaign distributes malware by posing 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.920 as a Chrome update error message. It started a couple 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.120 of months ago and it's impacting a lot of people. 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:17.560 The message displayed reads update exception and error occurred in 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.240 Chrome Automatic update. And you say, oh, interesting, Okay, I 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.440 know Chrome updates automatically, but there's an error. I better 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.480 spring into action. It says, please update, Please install the 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.520 update package manually later or wait for the next automatic update. 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.959 And then a link is provided at the bottom of 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.360 this fake error message that takes the user to a 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.400 what's misrepresented as a link that will help you do 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:48.560 a Chrome manual update, But that link downloads file that 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:53.000 will put malware on your system that might degrade your performance, 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.640 but it can also potentially compromise your sensitive information potentially 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.640 the way that you log into websites. Now this is 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.160 installed on your computer. Now here's what's so brilliant about 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.840 this campaign, and this is what all of these socially 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:11.960 engineered phishing attacks, smishing attacks, all these little scams that 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.960 are going around, they all play to something that is 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.440 somewhat true. We know that if we use Chrome, it 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.040 needs to update every once in a while, and typically 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.840 it works just fine. It's a very simple process. But 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.960 this one is a little error message that says, oh, 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.680 something went wrong with the automatic update. Here, manually do it, 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.360 and you don't want to be unprotected on your computer, 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:33.799 so you go ahead and do it. 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:35.879 So why this is. 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.320 So effective is because it's it looks routine, it looks 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.360 like it's innocent. There's no big threat window. It doesn't 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.120 blank red like some of these ransomware attacks. It just says, hey, 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.279 your update failed. Here, go ahead and install it. And 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.920 then there you go. You install it and it really 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.560 messes up your computer. So the reality is we can 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.640 never be off our guard when it comes to any 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.640 sort of thing that we are doing on our computer, 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.560 whether we. 0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.880 Are installing software. 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.120 Don't, like I say, do not just go through those 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.440 whenever you're installing something. Don't just go through the motions 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.879 of pressing go, go, go, go go, because that will 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.560 get you into trouble. That will be a major problem. 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.160 Don't do it. That's that's the issue that I talk about, 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.640 because you just it's not good. 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.000 So again, if you're looking at Chrome and you see 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.239 this thing, just be sure you're on guard all right. 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.080 Phone number by the way, triple. 0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.000 Eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.080 to two four to one zero one I'll get to 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.719 some of your calls in just a moment here, But 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.640 first I watched this this Apple movie. 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.720 It's called Ghosted. You know, it's funny. 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:48.360 With all the reviews and ratings and things out there, 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.120 it's it's very tricky because you want to watch something 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.920 that's highly reviewed, highly regarded, highly rated, and sometimes you 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.480 just want something that's fun. So every time I opened 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.080 up Apple TV Plus on my computer or on my TV, 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.400 I would see this ad for a movie called Ghosted. 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.719 And I never heard of it. I never knew what 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:06.120 it was. 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.440 It just looks like an action kind of you know, 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:13.440 romantic action movie, whatever that means. And so I was like, oh, 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.640 this looks interesting. Of course, all the app all the 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.560 reviews for it are not very good, but I'm like, 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:19.960 I'll give it a try because it just looked like 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.759 something I want something that was kind of like no 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:22.600 brainer movie. 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.480 Right, Well, this is an Apple show. So this is 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:26.440 an Apple movie. 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.320 And every time you watch something on Apple TV plus, 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.440 any of the original programming from Apple. 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.160 It features a heavy dose of Apple products. 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.359 I mean they just give these producers like here, take 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:40.200 an iPad, take a an iMac, take a take ten iPhones, 0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.760 everything happens with these Apple products in these Apple movies, 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.840 which is kind of distracting, but I get it. It's synergy. 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.960 It's like if someone on an Amazon movie was shopping 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:50.480 on you know. 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.359 Best buy dot com. It wouldn't really wouldn't feel right. 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.080 Well, anyway, every Apple movie is an ad for all 0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.399 things Apple, except when it's not in their favor. And 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.840 on this Ghosted movie, what do they use for the 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.120 tracking device? It's a tile, It's not an air tag, 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.400 because they didn't want to seem like their products were 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.080 being put in a bad light. So I just thought 0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.520 that was really funny. So if you watch the movie Ghosted, 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.759 I recommend it. I thought it was pretty good. But 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.640 just notice that. Notice that little quirk. Why didn't they 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.560 use an air tag? Didn't fall in Apple's favor. You're 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.480 listening to rich on Tech. More of your calls up 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:23.640 next at Triple eight. 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.440 Rich one O one. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.400 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:33.279 technology with you at Triple eight rich one on one. 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.160 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:42.440 one zero one. The show coming to you today from Austin, Texas, 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.680 site of the iHeart Country Fest, which I will be attending. 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.880 I'm very excited for that. Also excited for barbecue. You 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.080 can't have enough barbecue when you're here, that's for sure. 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.719 The only question is what kind of sauce you want 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:55.080 on it? 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:56.160 Oh, I don't know. 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.400 I don't want to get into like a big barbecue debate. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.560 I know there's like dry I mean, barbecue people are 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.719 very very serious about their craft, and I don't tend. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.000 To be a barbecue expert. 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.720 All I know is that I will eat the brisket 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.239 with some sort of barbecue sauce slathered on it, and 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.839 I will be a very happy person. All right, enough 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.560 about me, Let's go to Pat in Laguna Hills. Pat, 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.120 you're on with Rich. 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:27.440 Pat? Are you there? Pat? And Laguna Hills? 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.520 Okay, I can't hear you, Pat, but okay, maybe we'll 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.279 get you on in a second. Here, let's talk while 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.760 we're waiting for Pat. Oh, there you are, Hello, Pat, Welcome. 0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.400 I don't know what happened. 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.000 You know, we're you know there's the show is if 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.400 you if you knew the technology behind this show, it's 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.719 quite impressive. We've got people in all corners of the 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.960 US today. We've got Kim up in near San Francisco. 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.680 We've got Bobo producing the show in Los Angeles, and 0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:00.200 we've got myself sitting in Austin. And then somehow, you know, 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.239 the show goes up to a satellite somewhere it comes 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:03.000 back down through the road. 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.000 I don't know, because you're in auction. Yeah, I imagine. 0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.640 We'll believe it on Texas. What's up? 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:09.680 Yeah? 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:15.880 Okay. I have a Chromebook since twenty fifteen. I bought 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.600 another one last year because I have one upstairs and 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:25.239 one downstairs. I want to give my twenty fifteen Chromebook 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:31.040 to a friend to practice on and in buying a 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.560 new one. I see this. There's two hard drives, an 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.680 SSD and an eMMC if in fact, that is a 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:44.839 hard drive e m MC. And I do banking on 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.720 this CHLME book, and I prefer the chrome book only 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.120 because I think it's safer with all the updates. Yes, 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.040 and I only use the one that's updated, not the 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:59.000 other one for banking so or paying bills and stuff. 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.839 So that's that's my question. I don't know what to. 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.040 Buy now, Okay, Well, good question. I like that you're 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.600 thinking about safety and security with this device, and I 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.600 would agree that it is a safe device, because there's 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.480 not I don't think there's any viruses for a chromebook 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.279 at this point, So I mean, you could still get 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.400 caught into phishing emails and all that stuff. So you 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:20.640 still have to be on cars. 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.359 And thank you for what you said before about I 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.799 didn't know about the era, Thank you very much. 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.960 Yeah, Look, these people are tricky. They will figure out 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.600 ways of I mean a lot of these ninety nine 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.799 percent of the attacks that I hear about are either 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.560 your password you didn't have two factor authentication, or you 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.400 hand over your password with some sort of social engineering 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.440 attack where you're logging into a website that looks legitimate 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.799 and you just don't realize anyway, onto these chromebooks. So, okay, 0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.200 there's two different things you're talking about here, eMMC and 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.239 also SSD. So these are in fact they are a 0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.759 hard drive in a colloquial term like it is a 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.560 storage device. But these are both sort of solid state 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.040 flash you know, they're both solid state drives. There's no 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:12.200 moving parts on these. eMMC is a type of flash memory, 0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.360 whereas an SSD is a solid state drive. It's also memory, 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.719 but these things don't move, not like the old hard 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:23.239 drives that's spun right. eMMC is going to be a 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.880 little bit slower, but it's going to be a little 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.640 bit cheaper, And there's also some size limitations there, so 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.120 you may not get a drive that's as big, whereas 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.359 SSD is kind of like you know, it's a much 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.400 higher end technology that is in much higher end devices. 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.440 So if you're comparing these two chromebooks, I'm guessing that 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.440 the SSD is more expensive. 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:43.080 Is that true? 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.040 But is one more secure than the other? That's really 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:49.840 what I want to know. 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.680 Well, I don't think that one is more secure than 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.239 the other because at the end of the day, these 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:58.040 are just storing your data, and so you know, when 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.279 it comes to storing data, that's pretty much going to 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.799 function in the same way. So I don't think you're 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.799 gonna have a problem with this with the security of 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.319 these two devices. I think it's really comes down to 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.600 what you want out of a price and what you 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.280 want out of the performance. So I think that the 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.239 SSD overall is going to be a better choice. If 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.200 you have the money and it's in your budget and 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.440 you're comparing two things, the SSD I think is going. 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.000 To be better. But if you're just not really caring. 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.040 You just want this thing to log onto your bank 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.480 account and pay your bills and all that kind of stuff. 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.799 In the standard eMMC, it's going to be just fine. 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.759 I don't think that one is more secure than the other. 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.759 Okay, And what about using the Chrome browser? Should I 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.080 use a different browser? 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:41.839 No? 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.839 I think the Chrome browser is a great browser to use. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.600 Keep it up to date, just keep away from those 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.480 issues that I was talking about. And also when it 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.719 comes to the extensions, if you're installing extensions on the 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.839 Chrome browser, that's you know, those are the potential for 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.520 you know, leaking information or putting. 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:00.839 Something on there. 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.759 Meaning what extension. 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.880 Extensions are little browser add ons that you can get 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.040 that kind of help your browser do different things. For instance, 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.160 I have one that will help me print a page 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.760 or save something to the kindle. 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:22.200 I don't use them every time I do a banking transaction. 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.480 I get out of it and shut it down and 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:31.759 come back. Okay, that's how secure and the other very skeptical. 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.440 The other thing that I would recommend when it comes 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.720 to doing the banking on the computer is I always 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.640 try to keep that limited to at home or on 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.120 a simular connection if you're out of that. So I 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.280 wouldn't do that on like a public Wi Fi connection. 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.120 That's kind of my rule of thumb with it. 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:52.000 Definitely not. And I just have one little question, what 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.480 about a tablet? Is banking secure on a tablet since 0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:03.439 you're using a different you're using a cell uh yes, 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.359 and a Wi Fi you're using the cell cell thing, right. 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.440 Well, it depends, I mean yeah on the table Well, 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.319 on the tablet, you can use a hot spot or 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.120 you can use Wi Fi, depending on where you are. 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.640 I mean, if you're at your house, you might just 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.400 use Wi Fi, but you can. You know a lot 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.440 of people when they're out and about, they're just connecting 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.440 their tablet to their phone. I think that's that's very 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.040 secure as well. Again number one, I mean we have 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.320 we have millions and millions of people that are doing 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.439 their online banking on a daily basis, and so these 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.719 banks have gotten really good at trying to keep people secure. 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.160 I think the online banking is not the the insecure part. 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.160 It's really these money apps that are that are leaking 0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:46.400 money because people get requests and they send money to 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.880 someone that's not the right person or the right phone number. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:50.880 So I think in that case, you need to be 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.160 really careful with with sending money. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.120 To connect those too. I don't use zill and I 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.040 don't I might do them though, I don't know. I 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.520 have to research. But Zell is out. 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:03.680 Okay. 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.799 I used to really like zel and I I came 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.400 to not like it as much because the problem with 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:12.759 Zell is it's a one way street. So if there's 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.080 a problem, it's these banks have really shown over and 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.080 over that they're not really interested in getting your money 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.160 back to you if you send it to the wrong person, 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.000 or if there's a problem or if you you know, 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.440 if you get some sort of scam attack and you 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.520 send money to someone that you shouldn't have and you 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.160 realize that it's it's really tough to get that money back. 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.640 With VENMO, I feel like there's a little bit more 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.920 of a there's a little bit more of a barrier, 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.279 almost like using a credit card versus a debit card. 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:44.200 Agreed, Okay, all right, I I totally agree with you. Then, 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.399 so uh so, Yeah, I still don't want to send 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.160 big amounts of money through them all. 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.040 I still write checks and send. 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:56.000 Them credit return, receive credit. 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:56.960 Yeah. 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.600 Smart, Well, Pat, you sound You sound like the perfect 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.560 listener for the rich On Tech Radio show because you 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.879 said you agree with everything I said, so I like that. 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.920 Thumbs up to you, Pat, Thanks so much for listening 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:10.399 today in Laguna Hills. Coming up, we've got a lot 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.200 more to talk about. Apple is bringing Final Cut Pro 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.839 and Logic Pro to the iPad, and later on. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.799 We're going to talk about projects Starline. 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:25.680 This is Google's version of Zoom, but in a holographic way. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:26.879 I call it holographic. 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.919 I'm not sure that that's the exact technology they're using, 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.200 but we've got Sherylyn Low from ngadget. She actually experienced 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.839 this up at Google Io and she's going to talk 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.279 to us about that as well, so stay tuned for that. 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.120 But I wanted to mention this real quick before we 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:47.040 go to break Peloton recalling two million of its exercise bikes. 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:51.040 This company cannot catch a pass. They just really can't. 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.560 So this Peloton bike, if you have one model PLO 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.600 one that's pretty much the original one, the bike's seat 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:01.920 post assembly can break during use, posing fall and injury hazards. 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:02.239 Yeah. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:06.560 Yeah, Think you're on a bike seat and you're pedaling along, 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.520 and if this thing has a problem. Yeah, you don't 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.040 want to be on that bike seat when this happens. 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.520 So they've got a repair as an issue to help 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:19.920 you get that fixed. Recall two point two million of 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:25.120 these Pelotons and so far they say consumers should immediately 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.880 stop using the exercise bikes and contact Peloton for a 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.279 free repair. They'll give you a new seat post that 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.600 can be self installed, and thirty five reports of the 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.759 seat post breaking and detaching from the bike during use, 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.880 thirteen reports of injuries, including a fractured wrist, lacerations and 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.480 bruises due to falling from the bike. These were sold 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.520 from January twenty eighteen to May twenty twenty three, pretty 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.800 much the entire time during the pandemic. They were sold 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.400 through Peloton, Amazon, and Dick Sporting Goods nationwide for about 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:58.040 fourteen hundred dollars. Ah, this is not good for Peloton 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:02.080 because we've seen, you know, Peloton was was flying high 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.279 during the pandemic and then after the pandemic things didn't 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.400 go so well for them. And I still love Peloton, 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.880 don't get me wrong, but if you got one of 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.560 these bikes, definitely check to make sure if your model 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.560 number pl zero one and you've been using this thing. 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.239 You want to get this free repair because I'm know 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.160 about you. I don't want to be on a bike 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.160 seat and have that thing break and there's a bar 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.800 there that can really hurt you. So my wife and 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:27.640 I were debating this last night. She said, well, only 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.200 thirty five people. I said, do you want to be 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.360 one of those thirty five people that got hurt on 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:31.719 this thing? 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:32.480 I don't think so. 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.279 All right, more of your calls a triple eight rich 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.640 one on one eight eight eight seven four to two 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.560 four one zero one. You are listening to rich on 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:46.520 Tech pull in. Welcome back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro. 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:46.919 Here. 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.800 You can find me online at richon Tech dot tv. 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.000 You can find me on all the social media networks 0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:01.040 at rich on Tech. I posted a video this week 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:06.360 on my Instagram, actually a couple a couple of videos 0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:10.280 this week on my Instagram. First is this little flick 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.839 flick smart button. This was really cool testing this thing out. 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.200 And it's a little smart button that you can program 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:18.719 to do a whole bunch of different things. So think 0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.000 of it as like a almost like a light switch, 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:22.759 but it's a smart button, so you can make it 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:23.840 turn on and off lights. 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.720 You can make it ring your phone. 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:29.600 You can make it play your sons, play a special playlist, whatever, 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.400 all by programming it through your phone. I also posted 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:37.800 the automated pancake maker at my hotel up in San Francisco. 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.000 I never saw this before, and I thought it was 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:41.600 so neat. You just press a button and it pops 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.719 out too fresh pancakes that it kind of makes on 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.680 a griddle that's inside this little robotic mechanism, So you 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.520 can watch that on my Instagram. And then I got 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:56.440 this security tracker from u fee that's the size of 0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:58.400 a credit card, so it's basically an air tag but 0:49:58.480 --> 0:49:59.640 the size of a credit card. 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:00.760 You can it in your wallet. 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.799 I have another one from Chippolo already in use, but 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.719 this was on sale on Amazon for sixteen ninety nine, 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.400 and I get so many questions about these things. I 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.200 ordered it came the next day. It's very very. 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.160 Simple when I like about it. 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.000 It uses the Apple Find My network, so you can 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.480 find this thing on a map pretty much anywhere in 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.440 the world because it uses all the other iPhone devices 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.799 to locate it, so you can find those all on 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.239 my Instagram at Richon Tech, and I got a lot 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:29.799 of questions about the trackers because people are saying, Hey, Rich, 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.440 you know, I want a tracker for Android. My advice 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.880 in the Android tracker situation is just to wait. Because Google, 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.880 we talked about this last week or the week before. 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.080 Google and Apple are working together to come up with 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.279 a common framework. 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.240 So very soon there is going to be a whole bunch. 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.879 Of air tag style devices on the market that will 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.680 work with both iPhone and Android much better than they 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.760 do right now. Google at their annual event, the Io Event, 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.120 announced that they're going to make the find My network 0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:00.160 use all of the Android phones to help you look 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:04.880 devices from a wide variety of manufacturers, so Samsung, Tile, Chipolo, 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.920 so you have the air tag for the iPhone. That's 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.560 been about a couple of years now. Now everyone's going 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.000 to have access to this same technology. So that's really 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.919 really cool. Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.319 eight seven four two four to one zero one. Ron 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:21.520 is in Arizona. 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:23.160 Ron. You're on with Rich. 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:25.400 Hey, Rich, can you hear me? 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:26.839 I can hear you? What's up? 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:34.320 Our church has Wi Fi right now, but it's sketchy 0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:40.400 in some parts of the church. We have basically, you know, 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:45.160 one router and then they they use some of those extenders. 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.479 And I have a Mesh network. I have a Mesh 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.560 network at home and it works really well to our house. 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:53.840 Our house is not real big though, it's about nineteen 0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:59.680 hundred square feet. So I'm wondering the size of the building. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.760 That foundation size of our church building is about thirteen 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.239 thousand square feet. Can you take you know, just your 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.080 standard Mesh network like a Google or something, and just 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:14.520 add more modules to it to extend me because most 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.920 of the time they talk about covering you know, forty 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.439 five hundred, five thousand square feet something like that. 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.840 Yeah, I mean typically with something that big, you'd want 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.960 more of a corporate you know, more of a professional solution. 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.920 This may be somewhere in the middle. So if you go, 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.360 which one do you have at home? Which which system? 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:34.680 The Google? 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:35.239 Oh? 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:39.280 You have the Google? Okay, So you know, it's interesting. 0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:40.880 I think that you know, if you look at like 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:42.920 euro which is kind of like the they kind of 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.680 started this whole thing with the mesh networking systems for 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.640 the home. You know, this might have been going on 0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.400 in the corporate kind of world for much longer. But 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:54.040 if you look on Euro's website, you know, because I've 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:55.840 got euro and I was wondering, like how many of 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:56.760 these things can you add? 0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.040 You know, just how large? 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.560 This says that you can add as many beacons or 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.080 euros to your house as you'd like. Now they always 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:07.279 say home, so they don't ever mention that this is 0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.040 for corporate now, you know, I think you can use 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.799 it at a church if it's just something you want 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.000 to try. The good news is this is all sort 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:15.719 of off the shelf. You can buy it, you can 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:19.719 set it up, and if it works, that's great. You know, 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.800 some homes are probably I don't know about thirteen thousand 0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:24.360 square feet, but I'm you know, I'm sure there's some 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:27.320 pretty big homes that have you know, these mesh networks 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.480 in them and it works. I think the problem with 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:32.520 the church is that it, you know, the what's the foundation, 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.640 Like what's the you know, is it a lot of 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.000 concrete and brick and stone and things like that. 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.320 We've got one really large room where the services take place, 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.080 and then we have a couple of like classrooms for 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:50.360 the Sunday school, and then there's a an upstairs balcony 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.000 where the sound equipment is and the you know, the 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.640 computer for running the slide during the service and stuff 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.239 like that, So we'd really like to reach all of 0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.160 those areas fairly well. So I just kind of walked 0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.200 off the foundation just to see, well, how big, how 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.880 big is the building itself, not just the total square 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.080 footage like a realtor would estimate it right, right, And 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.280 that's where I came up with that thirteen thousand. 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.200 Well I would recommend I mean, look you can you 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.759 can kind of investigate the euro situation and see. I 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.360 don't know if I would use Google because that's a 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:22.759 much more consumer device. Ero kind of is in the 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.360 middle there. They do a lot of like pro stuff 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.719 as well. But I would also look at something like Ubiquity. 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:29.440 Have you heard of that? 0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.360 The name sounds familiar, so that. 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.160 Is sort of a it's more of a prosumer kind 0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.080 of model. And I'm looking on their website for the 0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:41.120 different devices that they have, and it seems like it 0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.880 would be much more suited. And it's not that expensive, so, 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.720 I mean, these devices are anywhere from one hundred dollars 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.080 to two hundred and seventy nine dollars for each device, 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:51.840 depending on which one you want. So they've got a 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.960 light a long range of professional and enterprise and then 0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:58.200 the mesh hub. So I think that that's probably something 0:54:58.239 --> 0:54:59.960 to look at, and it's going to give you more 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.640 a professional installation than something like an euro which is 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.840 really meant for the home. This will give you some 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.279 enterprise grade access tools and things, especially when you have 0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.920 a lot of people using it, including visitors, it might 0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:14.920 give you more of the tools that you need to 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.239 manage that. So that's at UI dot Com. I would 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.680 check that out. Of course, the big one that comes 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.319 to mind is a Ruba networks that is a much 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.839 more corporate industrial solution as well. So I would check 0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.759 those two things out. And Ron great question. I know 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:33.120 we've become so accustomed to these mesh networks. We need 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.520 them everywhere, all right. Coming up, we're going to talk 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:40.440 to Sherlyn Lowe about projects Starline, Google's new video chat 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.479 that is just wild. You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.920 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:54.520 technology with you at triple eight rich one oh one 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.239 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.960 You can also email me hello at rich on Tech 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.640 dot tv. Maybe a little shy on the phone and 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:07.800 you'd rather email, or maybe it's just something that's easier 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.759 to email than call, but either way, Triple eight Rich 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.800 one on one or Hello at Rich on tech dot TV. 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.160 So there's this really cool demo up at Google Io 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.960 that I did not get to do. 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:23.040 But it's Project star Line. 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:27.120 So this is a video conferencing sort of I don't 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.440 know what you call it, like contraption that Google has 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.000 come up with that makes it look like the person 0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:34.359 is sitting in front of you and you can talk 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.000 to them. So I'll just bring on Sharlen Lowe from 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.320 n Gadget. She actually got to experience this. Charlyn, Welcome 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:41.759 to the show. 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:43.640 Hey, rich thanks for having me. 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.719 Okay, so can you explain Project Starline better than I can, 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.560 because you got to try this out and I just 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:52.360 feel like it's holographic video conferencing, like this stuff you 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.880 imagine would be around when I was a kid, Like, 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.360 you know, talking face to face to someone that's not 0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:00.600 really there is that kind of it's accurate. 0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.799 You're basically sitting in front of what's really big TV, 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.360 like a forty ish inch TV, but instead of a 0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.960 regular screen is a light field display and that allows 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:13.200 the sort of holographic projection to up here like a 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.640 person is really there in three D in front of you. 0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.440 They're protruding out of the screen kind of Oh. 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.600 So it is Okay, I've been saying this is holographic. 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:24.160 It is actually holographic. Okay, cool, all right, so I 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.880 got something right. So you wrote all about this, uh 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.959 in your experience with it, So take me from start 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:30.320 to finish. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.080 You walk in here in what happens? 0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.040 Yeah, so I walked. These are a hush hush displays. Okay, 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.360 they're not letting us teak photos or videos because it's 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.320 hard to capture on camera, so we're gonna have to 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.520 verbally describe it as best as we can. You walk into 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.120 a room. There's this long office table or desk in 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.280 front of the setup, the prototype. The news at schole 0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:49.120 i OWE this year is that there's newer prototypes. 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:49.320 Right. 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.120 Project styling was first and down about two years ago, 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.920 and since then the prototypes have gone from requiring an 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:59.760 entire room of space to being somewhat portable. I mean 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.280 the take up more like a whiteboard amount of the 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.080 space now. So I went in through my friend the chair, 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.560 the office chair in front of the table and then 0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.680 the other person on the other side of the call, 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:12.960 who themselves is sitting in front of another Project Starline prototype, 0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.680 steps into frame. And when they're sitting down and I'm saying, now, 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:19.440 we're both kind of like facing the screen dead on. 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.400 There's no real sense that this is anything extra special. 0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.400 They look life size, They're like, you know, not like 0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:30.080 a little laptop size of a video call. But without 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:32.800 kind of looking around, you don't get the sense that 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:37.360 this is protruding. But everything changed when this person, the 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.640 Google executive on the other side of the call, picked 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.880 up an apple on his end and kind of reached 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:44.320 it through the screen in front of his face. It 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.040 looked like it was coming right at me. It looked 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.400 like I could grab it from his hand, because that's 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.720 really what you felt, the spatial distance kind of change. 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.400 And that's what's really different with Project Starline as opposed 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:59.080 to your typical video conference is the holographic thing. This 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:04.800 is supposed uh, more realistic, more in person experience way 0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:09.200 of communicating. It's just really different. We tried other things tough, 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:13.000 We tried high fiving, we tried fist bumping, and you know, again, 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.400 this is Overcaul, He's not actually there. So I didn't 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:17.800 actually grab his fist or touch his palm or whatever, 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:22.120 but it felt like I could. I actually made virtual contact, 0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:25.520 my real palm sort of overlaid on top of his 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.120 his virtual one, if that make sense. 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.640 Okay, I was gonna I was wondering about that, like 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.320 when you put the apple out, like, did you go 0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.800 to reach for it and what hit him? Does it 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.040 just feels like there's nothing there? Like does it does 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:37.440 it break up the image? 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:38.120 Like what is? 0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:39.360 Yeah? 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:40.080 Yeah? 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.200 So when I when I went to grab it, and 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:45.800 when you know, he hadn't outstretched his uh hand that 0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:49.040 far yet, I just was kind of grabbing it and 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.200 it wasn't The image wasn't breaking at all. What was 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.560 happening was uh as you wouldn't realize when you cover something, 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:56.880 it kind of like you block it from your vision, right, 0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.200 and it was happening here except when my hand wasn't 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.320 grabbing anything with such a space. So it's kind of strange. 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.640 I think my brain didn't really process it, right. I 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.320 will say that when he the caller, did outstretched his 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:11.240 hand a little further, it would start to hit boundaries 1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:13.760 and it would his face would term blue, like as 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:15.400 if you were hitting an outer limit and it gained 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.160 you Oh wow, yeah, that's sort of feel. And also 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:19.720 when I when I sat in my seat and I 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.920 would move my body from side to side to kind 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:24.880 of like you know, see him from the profile and 1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.000 stuff like that to see if it was more three D. 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.920 It wasn't. Indeed, more like a three D experience was 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.520 protruding more, but you would get messages on screen that 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:36.840 would tell you hate remain centered in the frame. Stop 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:41.000 moving around your tea so much, because, uh, the experience 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:44.600 is really tailored for a specific position because they're you know, 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:46.240 a life of this way is you know, projecting all 1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:47.800 the themes to your eye, so it's kind of needing 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:51.040 your perspective to be within a controllable area. 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:55.120 We're talking with Sharlen Lowe, editor at n Gadget about 1:00:55.360 --> 1:01:00.480 Project Starline. This is Google's holographic video conferencing exproment, which 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:03.720 they showed off at Google Io in a very private way. 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:05.280 This was something that you kind of had to sign 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.160 up for and it was a you know, it was 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:10.680 an appointment only kind of thing. So what do you 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:14.120 think is the implication of this. I imagine it's very expensive, 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:17.760 it's very early technology. Google says that they've done several 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:20.760 thousand hours of testing with this, but what do you 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:22.680 think the impact of this is? Do we need this 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:23.360 in our world? 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:24.360 Yeah? 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.960 So what's happening too is alongside the new prototype, Google 1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:32.360 also announced that some of these new prototypes have been 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.240 shared with exclusive access partners like T Mobile. We work 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.760 in salesforce and they're trying to see, you know, gather 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:43.520 real world feedback to see how these work. In what 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:47.080 they're saying, are distributed a workforce or work workplaces. Right, So, 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.000 I think the idea is that now that we're doing 1:01:49.080 --> 1:01:52.560 so much hybrid and remote work, that some sort of 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:57.720 bridge between the video an alternative solution to the traditional 1:01:57.760 --> 1:02:00.760 video conferencing is necessary and their wholefully or they're thinking 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:04.400 that this might provide them of that in person experience 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:08.040 without really you know, short of teleporting, someone is giving 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:11.920 you sort of that experience. My take though, I'm not 1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:14.920 quite sure. I think, yeah, sure, it felt like a 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:16.800 person was kind of in front of me, only their 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:19.520 top half though, And yes, you can get more non 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:22.120 verbal cues from a person if you have you know, 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:24.320 I was making direct eye contact with the person that 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:26.640 felt like you know, every little smirk, every little frown, 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:28.720 you could really tell because it's just so much more 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:32.320 detail in this experience. I don't know that we're still 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:35.600 going to be able to fully replace in person call 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:37.959 or in person in chat with this. It might be 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:42.200 better than a laptop call by quite a lot. It 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:44.720 never has been a substitute the real real thing, you know. 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:46.400 Yeah. 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.400 I talked to someone else about this, and they said 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:51.200 up at Google Io after they tested out, they said 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:53.320 that it was like almost a little eerie to like 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.200 look them in the eye, the other person, and so 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.080 they had to look away at some point because it 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:58.640 was like too much, it was too intense. 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:01.720 I think I think that was the demo person. They think. 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:03.760 They were really trying to hammer home the point that 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:06.680 I can make eye contact with you, you don't have to, right, 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:09.800 But there is an uncanny Valley sort of aspect to this, 1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:12.520 because during my demo there were a little, you know, 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.440 a few glitches here and there, your typical tech support 1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:17.960 technical era stuff, right like if we were both talking 1:03:17.960 --> 1:03:19.600 at the same time, I could tell if you couldn't 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:20.760 hear anything. 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:21.000 I was saying. 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:23.480 And some of these issues can be talked up to 1:03:23.480 --> 1:03:26.480 the WI Fi at the event, which was very spotty. 1:03:26.480 --> 1:03:28.080 As you and I were both there, we know the 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:31.640 Wi Fi struggled. And this to be clear, it is 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:35.360 the cameras around the screen are gathering your data and 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.520 then they're sending that information to the cloud, where it's 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:40.200 then generating a three D model of you and the 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:42.480 caller on the other side, and then beating that back 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.080 down to your respective light field display. So it's a 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.360 lot of bandis that's necessary, a lot of processing that's happening, 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:52.280 So some hiccups are understandable at the moment, I understand that. 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.880 You know, there's going to be some sort of feriness 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:58.280 or uncanny valley going on, and I don't think that 1:03:58.280 --> 1:03:59.800 that's ever going to go away, really. 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:01.080 Do you think? Well? 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:03.720 And by the way, I mentioned a story earlier about 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:06.520 how when I was sending my video back for editing 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.920 back to Los Angeles, it was so slow. Like Google 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:11.760 is known for really good Wi Fi, and this year, 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:13.480 I don't know what happened, but the Wi Fi was 1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:16.240 just really bad at the event that remember the first 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:18.960 year they had like they had like one gigabit connections 1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:20.240 at like every seat. 1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:20.680 At one point. 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:24.120 Yeah, yeah, do you think we're gonna have something like 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.960 Project Starline in our homes at some point, and you 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:29.439 could just I mean, as someone who lives far away 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:32.000 from their family myself, like my parents live in New Jersey, 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.480 I live in LA it'd be really cool to just 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.000 like hop into this Project star Line and chat with 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:38.840 them on a Saturday. Do you think we would ever 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:40.080 have this in our homes? 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:45.240 I think one day. I think that that's Google's goal perhaps, 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:47.400 but it is going to be a long way as 1:04:47.400 --> 1:04:50.840 the way. I think the over rich people will have 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:54.840 them within the next three years, but regular your average 1:04:54.840 --> 1:04:57.120 people probably another I don't. 1:04:57.160 --> 1:04:57.560 I wouldn't. 1:04:57.560 --> 1:04:59.280 I wouldn't use the crime to do like a decade. 1:04:59.280 --> 1:05:01.760 And even then, you know, like it doesn't really take 1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:04.480 off because again, you don't if people want to be 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:06.920 around other people, and this so far feels like a 1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:10.320 one person at a time experience, and you know, there's 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:14.160 there's just something about social gatherings in person that technology 1:05:14.200 --> 1:05:15.080 can't fully replicate. 1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:15.720 You just can't. 1:05:16.600 --> 1:05:19.040 I agree, And I also mentioned that about Io, because 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:21.080 half of it is just seeing the people that you 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:24.400 see on Twitter, and it's like, you know, it's funny 1:05:24.440 --> 1:05:26.920 because even with the advent of social media, you feel 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:28.600 like you know all of your friends and what they're 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:31.720 up to. But even just spending ten minutes with someone 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:33.919 in real life, you are caught up in a way 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:36.520 that Instagram and Twitter and all these things can never 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:37.240 catch you up. 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:40.640 I agree absolutely, and I have so much fun at IO. 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:42.160 I mean, I think you and I met what for 1:05:42.200 --> 1:05:45.080 the first ish time there in person, and then you know, 1:05:45.120 --> 1:05:46.760 I got to see all my friends. I got to 1:05:46.840 --> 1:05:49.520 within like the said ten minutes, I met such a 1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:53.120 gamut of people at once without and getting to know 1:05:53.200 --> 1:05:55.320 them and getting the sense I pick up on vibes 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:57.280 like to say, oh yeah, I. 1:05:57.240 --> 1:05:59.480 Have everyone you know absolutely. 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:03.760 Sherlin Low, deputy editor at n Gadget. How can folks 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:05.200 follow you online? 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:06.080 Yeah? 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:08.520 I am on Twitter still at c h e r 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:11.400 l y n n l O W or my Instagram 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:13.480 at c h r l i n N at t 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:14.480 h e r e M. 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:17.560 Thanks for joining me today. I love the qualification, the 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:20.440 qualifier with Twitter. I'm still on Twitter, I know, so 1:06:20.560 --> 1:06:24.160 am I yeah for now till anything changes, all right, 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:26.560 thanks so much for joining me today. 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:27.080 Appreciate it. 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:28.600 Sherylyn, thanks for having me. 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:29.880 Betthew Saturday all. 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:32.200 Right, yes, you too. All right. 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:34.720 Coming up on the show, we are going to talk 1:06:34.760 --> 1:06:37.200 about Oh gosh, we have so much to talk about. 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:39.640 Still speak, you know me? Speaking of Twitter. 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:46.760 Twitter's got a new CEO, Linda Jacharino. That's really all 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:50.680 there is to mention about that. Linda came from NBC Universal. 1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:53.840 She was advertising chief there and now in a couple 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:56.480 of weeks she will take over as CEO of Twitter. 1:06:56.520 --> 1:06:57.959 We'll see what changes happened there. 1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:00.880 Coming up, I'll talk about Apple bringing Final Cut Pro 1:07:01.000 --> 1:07:01.760 to the iPad. 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:05.000 Finally, welcome back to Rich on Tech. 1:07:05.120 --> 1:07:10.400 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology, listening 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:14.520 to some country music because the show is originating from Austin, 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:20.000 Texas this weekend. Yep, I'm here for a country fest. 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.640 iHeart country fest. Triple eight Rich one oh one eight 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:27.200 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:31.440 I've been to Austin many times for South by Southwest. 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:36.880 This is the big music and interactive and what was 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:38.480 it music, film and interactive. 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:39.959 I always went for the tech part. 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.560 And they've launched a lot of apps here, a lot 1:07:42.560 --> 1:07:45.920 of a lot of big apps launched here. I believe 1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:49.880 Twitter's square like a lot of these things originally started 1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:52.880 at south By Southwest where they showed them off to 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:58.480 the world. Let's go to Sam in Hemmett, California. Sam, 1:07:58.720 --> 1:08:00.400 you're on with rich Sam? 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:00.880 Are you there? 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:02.120 Yes? 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.400 I am, sir. Thanks for taking my call. 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.600 Well, thanks for calling in. What can I help you with? 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:08.960 Okay? 1:08:10.040 --> 1:08:13.000 I have an old phone that I'm about ready to 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:17.080 just get rid of, but there are some games on 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:19.640 there that I would like to save the progress on. 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:25.879 They just cannot be attached to anything like Facebook or Twitter. 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.320 I'm curious if I can if I put them onto 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:33.960 a micro s D card, could I transfer them from 1:08:34.000 --> 1:08:36.520 the old device to a new one? 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:43.360 Well potentially, so, I mean the way that I mean, 1:08:43.400 --> 1:08:45.559 you'd have to get all the data along with the game, 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:46.680 right and can you do that? 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:47.840 Are you sure you can? 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:50.960 You can move the game data and like the actual 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:54.040 they call it on Android and APK, but can you 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:55.519 grab that along with the data? 1:08:55.720 --> 1:08:56.840 Do you know if you're able to do that? 1:08:58.160 --> 1:09:00.960 I'm not a real tip savvy person, and so the 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:03.160 best I could do is just tell you a little 1:09:03.160 --> 1:09:06.280 bit about each of the phones. The old one that 1:09:06.320 --> 1:09:10.120 I want the data off of I use in much 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:12.719 the same way a person would use a tablet computer 1:09:13.840 --> 1:09:20.360 and it is a Samsung Galaxy a ten E on 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:23.840 a three G system, and I want to move it 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:26.160 from and I want to move it to a Google 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:29.519 Pixel that's on five G. 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:33.439 Okay, And are you trying to what are you trying 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:35.880 to do? Exactly? What's you know? Because you can you 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:37.479 want to keep the game. 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:40.680 From Yeah, I want to keep my games and the 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:45.720 progress through those games, okay, and take them from the 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:48.400 Samsung and put them into the Google Pixel. 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:53.680 Okay. So now number one, A lot of this depends. 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:56.000 So if you you've tried to have you tried to 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:57.840 install the game on the new phone and see if 1:09:57.880 --> 1:09:59.200 it picks up where you left. 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:02.320 Off, Yes, and it won't do it. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:03.040 Okay. 1:10:03.160 --> 1:10:04.960 I was wondering that because some games, you know, it 1:10:04.960 --> 1:10:07.280 depends on the game's If it's a game that's relying 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:10.240 on a cloud sync, it's going to just pick up 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:13.440 where you left off. For instance, I've got the Pokemon 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:16.960 all right. Sorry, the Paradot game installed on two phones 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:19.800 and it's pretty much synked between the two phones. But 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:22.479 that's a newer game. So these obviously, since these are 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:24.960 on an old three G phone, these are much older games. 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:28.879 I doubt that they have any sort of cloud sinking 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:33.599 involved in these things. So I would say, try there's 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:36.559 a there's an app. Gosh, I've used it so long ago, 1:10:36.560 --> 1:10:38.880 I'm not even sure it's still around, but it's like 1:10:38.920 --> 1:10:40.880 a backup app. There's a couple of them on the 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:43.720 Google Play Store. One of them is that I used 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:47.479 to use as Titanium backup, and I'm just not sure 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:49.880 it's been updated recently, because a lot of these things 1:10:49.880 --> 1:10:52.320 are so like you just don't need them anymore. 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.360 But that's what I was. Yeah, the last time. 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:57.559 This was updated, Oh gosh, this shows you how old 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:01.559 this thing is November twenty four, twenty nineteen. But there 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:04.240 are some apps that will help you back up from 1:11:04.439 --> 1:11:07.439 Google Play or from one phone to another. So I 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:09.240 would try one of those and see if you can 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:12.280 just grab the you know, go into the app. It 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:13.920 should give you a list of all of the different 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:16.720 apps installed in that phone, and then you select the 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:18.360 app that you want to transfer over. 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:20.160 It will either upload it to. 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:21.920 The cloud, or you can transfer it, like you said, 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:24.080 to a little flash drive at the bottom of the 1:11:24.080 --> 1:11:26.519 phone and then plug it into the new phone and 1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:27.559 carry that over. 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:29.479 But I'm not sure if all that data is going 1:11:29.560 --> 1:11:30.000 to come over. 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:32.360 I mean it's it's you know, it really sort of 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:35.840 depends on how that game is architected and figured out. 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:37.400 Well. 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:41.200 Among them is the Bejewel game series. 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:47.000 M that's okay, yeah, what else are you playing there? 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:56.280 There's Checkers, Solitaire, Mageong, yacht Ti. 1:11:59.280 --> 1:11:59.479 Yeah. 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:00.880 So it sounds like you have a whole bunch of 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:01.360 these things. 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:05.760 So if if these if these games are linked to 1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:09.040 Google Play, if you can go into the settings and 1:12:09.080 --> 1:12:11.439 link them to any sort of account, I think that 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:14.960 they would transfer over something like Bejeweled, especially because that's 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:18.120 a that's a very popular game. And these these whether 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:21.000 you're on Android or Apple, they both have these sort 1:12:21.040 --> 1:12:23.680 of game center things. And if you ever launch a 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:25.640 game and it says like game center. 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:30.799 Okay, they're both. They're both Android phones. I prefer Android 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:35.680 to Apple. Apple I think is more overrated than it 1:12:35.760 --> 1:12:40.200 really is. Okay, well that's to me, it's a better one. 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:43.800 It's funny I've been using I went to the Google 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:45.840 event this week and I kind of retook a look 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:48.040 at the Google Pixel seven. So I've been using that 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:50.479 for a couple of days, and the difference between these 1:12:50.520 --> 1:12:54.400 operating systems is so apparent. And the best way I 1:12:54.400 --> 1:12:58.519 can put it is this Apple really and Apple's great. 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:01.160 I think, look, there's Apple is a amazing A lot 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:04.360 of people use Apple products and iPhones. It's it's kind 1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:09.080 of like a standard issue here in America. But everything 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:11.479 on Apple sort of pushes you to use Apple stuff 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:13.479 right the way that Apple wants you to do things. 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.400 And I've noticed with Google just using the last couple 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:19.400 of days again from a fresh start, by the way, 1:13:19.720 --> 1:13:22.120 that it really just gives you a lot of options 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:24.320 on how to do things and it doesn't necessarily push 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:27.400 you to one particular way of doing things. And so 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:30.240 I can understand that some people may like that, and 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:32.920 you know, may like that approach a little bit better 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:35.760 than the Apple approach. Apple stuff works, and it works 1:13:35.800 --> 1:13:37.840 really well, and it's very simple because of that. 1:13:38.360 --> 1:13:39.400 But a lot of times they. 1:13:39.360 --> 1:13:42.120 Will just sort of push you towards their products, you know, 1:13:42.120 --> 1:13:45.240 whether it's Apple Maps, whether it's Safari, whether it's you know, 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:47.640 Apple Mail. People just use the default apps that are 1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:49.840 built into the phone, and you know, they may stray 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:53.240 if they if they feel like they know something better 1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:54.960 or they know how to do it better, but otherwise 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:57.120 they just kind of build it in. But Sam, to 1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.080 answer your question, I think that it's a matter of 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:03.960 trying this download if you haven't downloaded this already. There's 1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:07.840 an app on Google called the Google Play Games app. 1:14:08.240 --> 1:14:10.559 Install that on the old phone and the new phone, 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:12.960 and that may help save some. 1:14:12.920 --> 1:14:15.439 Of your progress in these games. But that's that's what 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:15.920 I would do. 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.840 And you can try one of these backup utilities, like 1:14:19.880 --> 1:14:22.759 a Titanium backup or some sort of backup and restore 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:26.280 utility to see if that can get the game from 1:14:26.360 --> 1:14:27.400 one phone to another. 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:30.760 But I don't know. I haven't done that before. And 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:31.840 most of the games that. 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:35.120 I've played are just sort of cloud based and pretty casual, 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:38.360 so and I'm not a big gamer on these casual 1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:40.160 games to begin with, so that's not even something that 1:14:40.200 --> 1:14:43.600 I'm totally doing all the time. But great question, Sam, 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:46.559 And congrats on the new Pixel. That's a fantastic phone, 1:14:46.920 --> 1:14:49.240 one of my favorites. All right, coming up, we'll talk 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:52.120 about oh Apple bringing Final Cut Pro to the iPad, 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:54.360 plus more of your calls at Triple eight rich one 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:57.400 on one eight eight eight seven four to two four 1:14:57.439 --> 1:15:01.120 to one zero one three of rich On Tech. 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:01.760 Come in your way. 1:15:04.680 --> 1:15:07.960 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:12.479 technology at Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:17.840 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Coming 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:21.519 to you today from Austin, Texas. Welcome to our number 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:24.840 three of the show. I mentioned earlier in the show 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:27.719 that one of the cool things about the hotel room 1:15:27.800 --> 1:15:30.760 I'm staying in is that it has a record player, 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:31.800 which I thought was kind of neat. 1:15:31.840 --> 1:15:34.639 And they've got a little record not a. 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:37.240 Store, but almost like a record library where you can 1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:39.679 check out some cool records, and they have a curator 1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:41.400 there that can help you pick out some stuff. So 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:44.479 we did this, but I will tell you last night 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:48.600 it was raining. It was raining really hard here in Austin, Texas, 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:52.840 and there's a lot of dripping sounds outside the room. Well, 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:55.160 there was sort of this clicking sound all night long, 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:59.559 and at one point I thought it was the dripping 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:01.559 of the rain outside. And at one point it just 1:16:01.560 --> 1:16:04.479 seemed way too like regular to be dripping of rain, 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:06.200 and it just seemed to go on way too long, 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:10.439 and it occurred to me that the record player was 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:13.600 still on, so I had you forget and it just 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:15.719 happened to me again, which is why I'm telling the story. 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:17.479 The record player. 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:20.240 When it's done playing the I guess the needle just 1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:22.599 goes to the middle and it just stays there and 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:24.920 just like kind of clicks and just you know, I 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:27.120 don't know anyway, So last night, in the middle of 1:16:27.160 --> 1:16:29.400 the night, I was like, Oh my gosh, this this 1:16:29.439 --> 1:16:32.599 record player has been on for hours, just kind of 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:35.479 circling around and clicking and clicking and clicking. 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:37.320 So I guess that's one. 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:40.760 Of the uh analog technology a little bit different than 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:43.800 you know, the new digital options we have out there. 1:16:43.880 --> 1:16:46.120 So that threw me for a loop last night. But 1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:48.439 I'm still all in on the record situation. I think 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:49.120 it's pretty cool. 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:55.360 Let's go to Rich in Carol Stream, Illinois. Rich. You're 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:56.360 on with Rich. 1:16:58.320 --> 1:17:01.519 Rich. Thank you paying well. I really do appreciate your show. 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:03.719 Thanks for listening. 1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:07.719 I've got a strange question. I wasn't trying to word 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:12.479 it properly. I've got all my music files that you'll record, 1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:13.880 my CDs recorded. 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:14.639 To my PC. 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:18.639 I've got at least ten thousand to ten to eleven 1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:22.480 thousand songs on my PC and that was the iPad. 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:26.639 I mean the iPod is discontinued, I believe, or it's 1:17:26.680 --> 1:17:32.559 no longer and the use is there a because I'm wondering, 1:17:32.680 --> 1:17:34.760 is there a way for me to listen to my 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:39.960 music without anything relying on my PC? Because to port 1:17:40.080 --> 1:17:42.600 you know, to enjoy these songs on the go, like 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:46.080 take them, you know, you know, take them as a portable. 1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:49.640 Is there like a replacement for an iPod that I 1:17:49.640 --> 1:17:55.519 could maybe perhaps consider transfer these files to the device 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:56.920 of some sort. 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:00.000 Oh good question. Now what do you mean what kind 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:01.680 of device like your iPhone. 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:04.519 Or what well I want to use or if. 1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:07.040 You want to use the files that you have somewhere else. 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:12.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the files on my PC, my Windows PC. 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:15.879 But I don't I just I don't have an iPhone. 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:23.200 I just have my my my S twenty one Galaxy. 1:18:23.240 --> 1:18:26.840 But what about just loading them directly onto the phone? 1:18:29.479 --> 1:18:33.519 Like what ten thousand songs really don't I'm not really 1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:37.080 well versed in terms of I may tarms of what 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:39.200 ten thousand songs can eat up a lot of memory 1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:41.360 on a on an Android phone. 1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:44.519 Uh well, I mean if you have an S twenty one, 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:47.320 you know you've got a bunch of storage on there. 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:49.640 You can put a subset of those songs. I mean, 1:18:49.680 --> 1:18:51.920 if each MP three is about you know, let's say 1:18:51.920 --> 1:18:56.040 it's three megabytes, four megabytes. If you got ten thousand, 1:18:56.080 --> 1:18:59.000 you want to put all ten thousand times four, that's 1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:03.240 forty thousand megabytes. You know, that's a couple gigs right there. 1:19:03.240 --> 1:19:05.519 That's not too bad. I mean, that's that's something that's 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:10.439 that's doable. There are there were in the past. Google 1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:14.400 had a system where you could upload your songs into 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:18.200 something like Google Music Manager I think it was called, 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.000 and you could you could upload all of your songs 1:19:22.040 --> 1:19:25.320 into there and then you can play them from any device. 1:19:25.560 --> 1:19:29.160 But I'm not sure that that's around anymore. Yeah, it 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:33.439 looks like it was. Uh, looks like it was discontinued. Yeah, Google. 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:36.400 Oh wow, yeah, I think that was gone. H Google 1:19:36.439 --> 1:19:39.720 play music Cloud. Yeah, this is something that you know, 1:19:39.720 --> 1:19:41.800 I'm looking at this article. It's like from ten years ago. 1:19:41.920 --> 1:19:43.479 That was back in the day where you could you 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:47.800 could physically upload all of your music. The other thing 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:49.800 you could do is you could potentially maybe upload it 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.840 something like Dropbox and then listen to it through there 1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:56.040 on the on a cloud player on your phone. I 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.000 should know a better answer to this, because I feel 1:19:58.080 --> 1:20:00.360 like there's something that's simple that I'm just not thinking 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:02.760 about right off the top of my head here. But 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:04.760 I know this was something that was popular a couple 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:06.679 of years ago, but now, of course, with the advent 1:20:06.720 --> 1:20:10.400 of these streaming services, there's just not really a lot 1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:11.800 of other options. 1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:12.120 That are left. 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:17.639 Yeah, but I would say I would just upload these 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:19.679 to your phone and just have them on your phone 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:21.200 and maybe make a couple playlists. 1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:23.720 Maybe don't do all ten thousand. I mean you could 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:24.000 see it. 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:26.439 I mean, go on their computer and see how much 1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:29.760 that those ten thousand songs are taking up on the 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:33.000 hard drive, and then go to your Android phone, see 1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:36.439 how much storage you have, and then transfer, you know, 1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:38.800 a subset of them or all of them if you 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:43.240 have enough storage. Now, the S twenty one, Does the 1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:46.880 S twenty one have an SD card slot or no? 1:20:47.360 --> 1:20:50.080 I'm trying to remember when they discontinued that. 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:55.839 I'll be yes, I haven't looked at I have to 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:56.960 go to verify that. 1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:00.280 No, I'm looking at an article and it's the twenty 1:21:00.320 --> 1:21:03.160 one was when they did away with it, So okay, Yeah, 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:05.759 some of the older Samsungs had the SD card slot, 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:09.280 but the S twenty one did not. That's yeah, because 1:21:09.280 --> 1:21:10.960 I would say otherwise you could just put it on 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:14.120 an SD card and just throw that into your phone. 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:15.679 And now you've got all your music on there. 1:21:17.200 --> 1:21:17.639 I see. 1:21:18.160 --> 1:21:20.360 I'm coming up with a lot of a lot of 1:21:20.439 --> 1:21:24.000 dead ends to this. What what kind of music? How 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:27.400 did you amass this collection just through the years? 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:31.840 I just you know, record you know, just uh copy 1:21:31.960 --> 1:21:35.920 my CD collections my PC over the years, and yeah, 1:21:35.920 --> 1:21:38.599 I just saved it over the years from my PC, 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:42.960 one PC to another, and and some of my collective CDs. 1:21:43.000 --> 1:21:46.840 That's it. You'll be bigging from the nineteen eighties, mid 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:50.080 nineteen eighties. So I've got to at least ten to 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:53.519 eleven thousand songs by now, maybe a few donald. I 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:56.880 don't really download it much material. Mostly it's just from 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:57.719 the hard copy. 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:03.000 I'm looking at some of these alternatives to these things, 1:22:03.040 --> 1:22:07.040 and I'm just not really finding a ton of things 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:10.720 that you can do. Now here's the thing. It's interesting 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:12.479 because there is so it used to be that you 1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:17.479 could upload a bunch of songs into this Google you know, 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:22.760 this music manager, and I'm wondering if if Google still 1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:26.439 lets you do that with their YouTube music which they've 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:30.320 they've now switched to, but I'm just not seeing the 1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:31.479 ability to do that. 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:34.120 Oh wait, here we go, hold on, upload music, hold on, 1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:37.479 Oh we got it. Okay, So here's a solution. 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:41.759 They did switch it over music dot YouTube dot com 1:22:42.160 --> 1:22:43.800 and if you go to your profile on the upper 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.160 right hand corner, it says upload music. So it looks 1:22:46.160 --> 1:22:48.479 like you can upload your music there and then use 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:51.280 the YouTube music player on your phone to play the 1:22:51.320 --> 1:22:53.840 songs that you own. So I would go to this 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:58.400 music dot YouTube dot com and then sign in. And 1:22:58.479 --> 1:22:59.800 I'm not sure if you have to be paid or 1:22:59.800 --> 1:23:01.720 not this I am paid on this, so I do 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:04.000 have a membership. I'm not sure if that matters or not. 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:07.799 But you can go and check out hit your profile 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:10.040 on the upper right hand corner. It says upload music. 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:12.439 Drag a couple of MP threes in there, just to 1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:14.679 try it out, and then go to your phone, open 1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:16.760 up the YouTube music app and see if that lets 1:23:16.760 --> 1:23:19.360 you do it. But it seems like it's still there, 1:23:19.439 --> 1:23:23.599 at least on my end here, so that's actually pretty cool. 1:23:24.760 --> 1:23:29.880 I'll go, I'll definitely I'll play with that and see 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:30.839 if it works. Solfully. 1:23:31.400 --> 1:23:33.439 Okay, so you got you got the directions down right. 1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:36.840 You go to music dot YouTube dot Com, go to 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:39.240 the upper right hand corner, tap your profile and it 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:42.559 says upload music. Drag a couple of MP threes in there, 1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:44.960 get them uploaded. And then once you have them on there, 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:48.360 open up the YouTube music app on your phone and 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:50.880 it should have a section of your own music in 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:54.120 your library, and press play and see what happens there. 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:57.439 I'll give it a shut rich. Thank you so much 1:23:57.479 --> 1:23:57.960 for your time. 1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:02.080 All right, I appreciate I've heard of Carol Stream Illinois 1:24:02.120 --> 1:24:04.200 so many times. What's what are they famous for? Was 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.559 that like we're like Columbia like music? Like what was 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:08.559 What's in Carol Stream Illinois that I know of? 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:10.519 Is that like a big customer service. 1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:18.960 Uh, Billy Corgan went to high school and Carol Streams. 1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:21.400 I don't know if that's what I was thinking of, 1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:24.240 But I love this. I love the Smashing Pumpkins just 1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:25.840 as much as the next person. But I'm not sure 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:26.559 that was what it was. 1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:32.759 Yeah, we're a western suburb of Chicago. We're about Miles's Chicago. 1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:35.120 Maybe it's just where I send all the all my 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:36.679 bills back in the day to Carroll's. 1:24:37.200 --> 1:24:40.200 That makes sense because there is a major post office 1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:43.240 about here, and uh, that's where a lot of bills 1:24:43.240 --> 1:24:46.479 are being sent and you know, distribute area to the 1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:48.000 local area. 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:50.360 I sent many of my bills there back in the day. 1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:52.360 All right, Rich, thanks so much for calling in today. 1:24:52.400 --> 1:24:55.160 Appreciate it. Uh, coming up more of your calls at 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:58.280 Triple A Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:01.160 four to four to one zero one. Lots more to 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:03.280 talk about on the show. I'm gonna tell you about 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:06.400 a major change that Lift is making if you like 1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:09.639 to take cheap rides with them. Plus, we've got the 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:12.880 best anti virus program, so if you're wondering what the 1:25:12.880 --> 1:25:17.080 best anti virus program is, we'll talk about that as well. Plus, 1:25:17.120 --> 1:25:19.559 you can go to the website rich on tech dot 1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:21.439 tv if you want to see some of the stuff 1:25:21.439 --> 1:25:22.479 that I do for television. 1:25:22.520 --> 1:25:23.200 You can watch my. 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:26.519 Stories there, and of course I post the podcast version 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:27.479 of this show there. 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:30.760 Once it's done. You're listening to Rich on Tech. My 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:31.639 name is Rich Dumurro. 1:25:31.720 --> 1:25:33.479 Will have more of your calls coming up next and 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:37.320 we're gonna talk Zelda. It's all coming up right here. 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:41.759 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here enjoying 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:45.240 one of the artists that will be at the iHeart 1:25:45.320 --> 1:25:50.680 Country Fest, Luke Brian, one of my wife's favorites. 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:56.000 You know that she were at breakfast and she said 1:25:56.040 --> 1:25:58.599 that the thought of meeting Luke. 1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:03.240 Brian brought tier to her eyes, and I mean literally, 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:06.640 like this is someone that she absolutely loves. And I said, well, 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.479 I don't know if that's gonna happen, But I don't know, 1:26:09.560 --> 1:26:11.920 do I just like step aside, like what's the what 1:26:12.040 --> 1:26:14.519 do I do? I don't know because I I tears 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:17.840 to her eyes. Wow, that's uh, that's. 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:18.080 A lot. 1:26:20.240 --> 1:26:23.040 Triple eight rich one oh one eighty eight seven four 1:26:23.120 --> 1:26:25.080 two four one zero one. I've met a lot of 1:26:25.200 --> 1:26:27.040 people in my life, and I don't know if anyone's 1:26:27.080 --> 1:26:29.559 ever brought tears to my eyes just the idea of 1:26:29.640 --> 1:26:32.400 meeting them. But I'm in for something, that's for sure. 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:37.040 Apple is bringing Final Cut Pro to the iPad. This 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:41.000 is very exciting for mobile creators. This is a brand 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:44.360 new version of Final Cut Pro with a touch interface. 1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:48.120 So it's got this new tool that they call, uh, 1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:51.599 well it's nothing new. I mean, it's it's a new tool. 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:52.599 For final cut. 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:54.839 But the idea if it's not new it's a jog wheel, 1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:57.160 but it's digital, so that means you can, you know, 1:26:57.200 --> 1:26:59.600 since there's it's all touch on the editing, you know, 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:01.599 this is a way to like kind of fine tune 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:05.439 how you're editing things and editing clips. It's got a 1:27:05.439 --> 1:27:09.200 magnetic timeline. You can move clips around with just a 1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:12.880 tap of a finger. It's got multi touch. This is 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:15.719 the coolest feature though to me, because I've been trying. 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:17.160 I was trying to figure out how to do this 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:21.559 years ago on the iPad. Use the pencil. It's a 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:24.320 feature called live drawing, which lets you use the pencil, 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.880 the Apple pencil to draw graphics on your video. So 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:30.280 let's say you're doing like one of those cool travel vlogs. 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:33.280 You know, you can write with the Apple pencil on 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:37.639 the sky and then it will be animated exactly how 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:40.599 you wrote it. Now, if you have terrible handwriting like myself, 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:42.800 it probably wouldn't look very good. But if you have 1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:46.720 nice handwriting, this is such a cool, unique way to 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:48.520 make some animations. 1:27:48.920 --> 1:27:50.360 And so that's one of the features. 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:54.360 The other feature that they talk about is multiicam video, 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:57.960 so they showed a demo where you can shoot multiicam 1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:01.000 video and just tap your finger to switch between. 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:02.240 The cameras, which is really neat. 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:07.639 It also takes advantage of the Apple Silicon, the really 1:28:08.240 --> 1:28:12.519 fast processors inside the new iPads. By the way, you 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:15.120 need at least an Apple M one chip inside the 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:18.320 iPad to use this, and really M two to get 1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:21.120 like the best use case scenario. But they also have 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:24.800 this scene removal mask, so you know how you need 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:28.920 a green screen to remove the background typically in something 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:31.040 that you shoot, well you don't even need a green screen. 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:33.559 You can literally just say remove the background, and this 1:28:33.840 --> 1:28:35.880 system is so smart that it will be able to 1:28:35.880 --> 1:28:39.200 figure out what the background is and remove it. That 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:43.320 is really cool. There's also an autocrop feature that will 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:47.680 adjust your footage for vertical, square or other aspect ratios. 1:28:48.360 --> 1:28:51.120 I mean, this is really cool. It also has professional 1:28:51.160 --> 1:28:53.880 soundtracks that automatically adjust to the length of a video, 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:57.720 and you can start a project on the iPad and 1:28:57.760 --> 1:29:00.400 then move it to Final cut pro on your computer 1:29:00.520 --> 1:29:01.080 to finish it. 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:02.240 Now I get it. 1:29:02.280 --> 1:29:07.160 This is mostly for either creative professionals or mobile professionals 1:29:07.280 --> 1:29:10.559 or influencers, so not necessarily the average person that's going 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:13.280 to be using this, but I think more will because 1:29:13.560 --> 1:29:17.600 it's more accessible. A final cut on the desktop was 1:29:17.600 --> 1:29:20.559 like a several hundred dollars program. This will be five 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:23.120 dollars a month or fifty dollars for the year. And 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:26.200 I know there's a lot of people that are asking, 1:29:26.640 --> 1:29:28.760 are kind of complaining about the fact that this is 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:33.040 now subscription and they don't like that. But the reality is, 1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:36.599 I think that we've gotten so accustomed to subscriptions. Five 1:29:36.640 --> 1:29:38.880 dollars a month, free trial for a month. I think 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:40.719 it's going to get a lot more people to try 1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:44.120 this out. Logic Pro is also coming to iPad, but 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:46.800 since I don't really use that, I know it's for 1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:48.120 more audio editing. 1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:49.040 I just don't use that. 1:29:49.120 --> 1:29:52.000 So if you're into that, you'll be excited for that 1:29:52.160 --> 1:30:00.280 as well. Let's see antivirus programs. So this this is 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:05.280 from this website that I really like called av test. 1:30:05.280 --> 1:30:07.240 Whenever people ask me, like, hey, Rich, what's the best 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:10.759 antivirus program for my computer? I always say Windows Defender 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.120 is pretty good because it's built in. Just activate it, 1:30:13.200 --> 1:30:15.000 make sure it's up to date, and that will protect 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:18.120 you from most of the big stuff. But av test 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:19.920 is where I send you if you say, well, I 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:24.760 want something else, something different. This is an independent organization 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:28.040 that sort of looks at these different security programs and 1:30:28.120 --> 1:30:30.679 comes up with rankings. And they always have a great 1:30:30.840 --> 1:30:35.440 list of rankings on their website. It's av test, ava 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:39.639 test dot org. And they do tests for all different systems, 1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:45.439 whether it is Mac, PC, Windows, sorry Android. You can 1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:49.400 see what's top rated. Well, this is interesting because a 1:30:49.439 --> 1:30:52.960 lot of people use Microsoft Defender. That's great, but it 1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:55.760 turns out it uses up more system resources than some 1:30:55.840 --> 1:31:00.840 other popular antivirus programs. So av test test did eighteen 1:31:00.960 --> 1:31:04.479 different anti virus software for Windows ten. They tested the 1:31:04.520 --> 1:31:08.240 programs around twelve thousand different malware samples mixed into one 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:11.240 point five million files to see which ones did the 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:16.160 best between differentiating between something bad and something good. The 1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:20.800 eighteen security packages were from some big names like on 1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:28.839 lab a, vast avg Bitdefender, Kespirski, malware Bytes, McAfee, Microsoft Defender, Norton. 1:31:30.160 --> 1:31:32.960 They gave these things all kinds of different points for 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:36.960 their you know how they performed in different categories protection, performance, 1:31:36.960 --> 1:31:41.600 and usability. So who came out on top, Well, the 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:44.320 highest system load in the test was generated by Windows 1:31:44.320 --> 1:31:48.080 Defender Antivirus, which means this would take up the most 1:31:48.080 --> 1:31:49.200 resources on your computer. 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.400 Maybe use more battery, use more energy. Whatever. 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:55.600 The worst score was given to PC Mattic in the 1:31:55.720 --> 1:31:58.880 usability section. It got the lowest overall score. It also 1:31:58.960 --> 1:32:01.760 found two dozen false positives and blocked a bunch of 1:32:01.800 --> 1:32:06.240 applications that maybe you needed. Six products. Here's the best part. 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:08.120 This is the parts you need to know. Six products 1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:10.559 got a perfect score of eighteen. So if you're looking 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:14.080 to install an anti virus program on your computer, these 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:19.559 are the ones that they currently recommend. A Vira, which, 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:21.280 by the way, those two are the same company at 1:32:21.280 --> 1:32:27.000 this point, Bitdefender, g Data, Kasperski, and trend Micro. 1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:29.559 So those are the. 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:34.240 Top six that got a perfect score of eighteen. And 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:37.080 by the way, Microsoft Defender was all the way down 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:38.200 to the bottom, almost. 1:32:38.000 --> 1:32:39.960 Number I guess it came in at sixteen. 1:32:40.479 --> 1:32:44.320 Norton and McAfee were right in the middle, so a Vastdavira, 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:46.120 those are the ones you want to install if you're 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:48.440 looking for a free antivirus program. 1:32:48.760 --> 1:32:50.000 I'll put the links on the website. 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:52.439 Rich on tech dot TV, all right, coming up, we're 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:54.680 going to talk Zelda and the new game for the 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:59.479 makers of POKEMONO. It's called Paradot. You're listening to rich 1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:05.280 on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:09.639 here talking technology with you at triple eight Rich one 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:13.080 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four 1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:16.760 to one zero one. So a couple of games came 1:33:16.760 --> 1:33:19.000 out this week that are proving. 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:22.200 To be very popular. First off, Zelda. 1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:26.680 This is a brand new Zelda game that is just 1:33:26.800 --> 1:33:31.040 the highly anticipated sequel to a game that came out 1:33:31.040 --> 1:33:33.599 many years ago, that launched with the switch in fact, 1:33:34.040 --> 1:33:37.880 and so everyone was downloading this at midnight on Thursday 1:33:38.000 --> 1:33:41.679 to play all day Friday and of course throughout the weekend. 1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:43.439 So if you know a gamer in your life, they're 1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:47.640 probably playing the Zelda game. There's also another game called Paradot, 1:33:47.720 --> 1:33:50.880 which is from the makers of Pokemon GO, and so 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:54.120 that's another new game. Let's see, let's bring up Eric 1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:58.800 Switcher from the gamer dot com. I'm not sure how 1:33:58.800 --> 1:34:01.000 we're connecting with Eric, but do we have Eric? 1:34:01.880 --> 1:34:02.280 I'm here? 1:34:02.680 --> 1:34:04.320 Oh hey, Eric, welcome to the show. 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:06.200 Hi, thanks so much. 1:34:06.560 --> 1:34:10.040 We're doing the show remote today, so everything is sort 1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:12.760 of well, I'm just all over the place. Everyone else 1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:15.960 is very professional and calm and cool and collected. But 1:34:16.080 --> 1:34:18.880 I am I am just you know, it happens anyway. 1:34:19.320 --> 1:34:23.720 So tell me about the Which game do you want 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:25.599 to start with? You want to start with Paradout or Zelda. 1:34:26.240 --> 1:34:27.040 Let's start with Zelda. 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:27.920 Okay. 1:34:27.960 --> 1:34:31.200 So every single person on my timeline that is any 1:34:31.240 --> 1:34:34.720 sort of gamer is was very, very excited for this 1:34:34.800 --> 1:34:38.040 new Zelda game. So why are people so excited for 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:39.080 Zelda Tears. 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:39.439 Of the Kingdom. 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:43.559 Yeah, So, like you mentioned, it is a sequel to 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:46.320 Breath of the Wild, which came out in twenty seventeen, 1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:49.960 and Breath of the Wild is a pretty important game 1:34:50.720 --> 1:34:53.439 in video game history. It's sold thirty million copies. It 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:57.360 launched alongside the Nintendo Switch, so it kind of ushered 1:34:57.400 --> 1:35:00.320 in the new generation of Nintendo, which has become the 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:03.760 biggest Nintendo council of all time. So there was a 1:35:03.760 --> 1:35:06.479 lot of anticipation for this game, and Nintendo was very 1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:09.280 secretive about it for the months leading up to it. 1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:11.599 We really didn't know much about what the game would 1:35:11.640 --> 1:35:14.040 have to offer. So it's just sort of a perfect 1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:18.240 storm of coming off of a game that's so popular 1:35:18.320 --> 1:35:19.879 and on a Council. That's so popular. 1:35:20.040 --> 1:35:23.559 People were really excited about it, and so it's getting 1:35:23.640 --> 1:35:25.480 like near perfect reviews. 1:35:25.720 --> 1:35:26.479 Is that true? 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:30.760 Yeah? Yeah, I think the Metacritics score is at a 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:34.639 ninety six, which gets it tied for third highest rated 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:36.800 game of all time. There's quite a few games that 1:35:36.840 --> 1:35:40.799 have in ninety six, but it is quite quite high. 1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:42.840 And why do you think, I mean, what are people 1:35:42.880 --> 1:35:44.519 saying about it? Why is it so good? 1:35:46.320 --> 1:35:49.000 So there's a lot of new things that it has 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:52.080 coming off of Breath of the Wild. I think that 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:54.920 the big new feature that people are so excited about 1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:58.960 is an ability that the character link has. It's called 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:02.639 ultrahand and it seems complicated, but what it really boils 1:36:02.680 --> 1:36:04.840 down to is that you can take any objects in 1:36:04.840 --> 1:36:07.800 the world and combine them together to make something new. 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:13.040 So it's really really unlocking people's creativity to invent new 1:36:13.120 --> 1:36:16.599 machines and come up with interesting vehicles, and it helps 1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:20.960 you to explore the world in creative ways. 1:36:21.400 --> 1:36:23.640 Oh wow, that's I mean you I love how you 1:36:23.680 --> 1:36:25.599 said this is really complicated, but you made it sound 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:27.719 so easy. I mean you you explained it very well. 1:36:27.800 --> 1:36:31.200 So that's a good job for explaining it. In that 1:36:31.320 --> 1:36:33.360 simple way now. 1:36:33.200 --> 1:36:36.639 And it is so easy to use. Yeah, I think 1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:38.840 that the genius of it is that, you know, you 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:42.320 can make these really complicated vehicles and machines and stuff, 1:36:42.360 --> 1:36:44.600 but it's a very intuitive and I think that's what 1:36:44.680 --> 1:36:45.880 people are really grabbing onto. 1:36:46.920 --> 1:36:47.200 Now. 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:51.240 This is also the first Switch game that is at 1:36:51.240 --> 1:36:53.599 a higher price point, right, isn't this this the first 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:55.519 seventy dollars game for the Switch? 1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:59.200 Yeah, that's correct. That's a trend that the industry has 1:36:59.240 --> 1:37:01.880 been moving in. PA started doing that with the launch 1:37:01.920 --> 1:37:04.880 of the PS five. Xbox recently did that a couple 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.200 of weeks ago with the release of a game called Redfall. 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.080 So we're going to be seeing games come out at 1:37:10.080 --> 1:37:12.639 seventy dollars pretty consistently from here on out. 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:16.439 But the reality is, if you're listening and you have 1:37:16.520 --> 1:37:19.240 someone in your life that has a Switch and they 1:37:19.439 --> 1:37:22.400 like games, do you recommend that they would get this 1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:25.040 for a birthday gift or some sort of gift for 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:27.040 the gamer in their life. 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:31.120 Yeah? Absolutely. You know, the beauty of Zelda is the 1:37:31.120 --> 1:37:35.200 way that it really crosses all ages. It's approachable for kids, 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:38.920 and it has so much depth for experienced gamers. Too. 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:42.160 It is a wonderful game, and it's also just sort 1:37:42.160 --> 1:37:44.160 of a cultural moment that I think people want to 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:44.800 be a part of. 1:37:46.160 --> 1:37:47.840 And when do you think we'll see a new Switch? 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:50.920 I mean, this thing is going on many, many years old. 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:53.559 They've come out with various versions of it throughout the years, 1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:55.400 but it's all pretty much basically the same. 1:37:55.800 --> 1:37:57.240 Do you think we're going to see a new Switch? 1:37:57.320 --> 1:37:58.439 Maybe next year or no. 1:37:59.600 --> 1:38:02.360 I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation. This has come 1:38:02.400 --> 1:38:06.559 out to be the longest council generation Nintendo has ever had, 1:38:06.640 --> 1:38:09.639 where we're coming up on seven years, and we've never 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:11.840 had to wait that long for a new Nintendo. So 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:13.960 I think it's pretty reasonable to assume we'll be seen 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:15.439 a new one next year. 1:38:16.120 --> 1:38:19.160 Okay, all right, we're talking with Eric Switzer. He is 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:24.360 the features editor at the gamer dot com and your 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:28.919 bio says that you specialize in Pokemon, So I imagine 1:38:28.920 --> 1:38:30.920 you are a big Pokemon player. But now that you've 1:38:30.920 --> 1:38:33.120 got this new game from the makers of Pokemon Go 1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:37.320 called Paradot, So what can you tell me about this game? 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:39.599 Which I've been playing a little bit, but I'm still 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.400 trying to figure out what it's all about. 1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:44.439 Okay, cool, Yeah, I've been playing a lot of paradigt too. 1:38:44.840 --> 1:38:49.000 You know, it's pretty fascinating. Like you said, it's from 1:38:49.000 --> 1:38:51.400 the creators of Pokemon Go is a company called Iontic 1:38:52.040 --> 1:38:54.920 looking for their next big mobile game, and this is 1:38:55.080 --> 1:38:58.160 a I guess you would call it a pet simulator. 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:02.360 Your audience might reach member of the Tamagatchi key chains 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:05.200 in the nineties, when kids would walk around training their 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:08.120 little pets and feeding them and playing with them. This 1:39:08.240 --> 1:39:11.320 is sort of a modern evolution of that idea. So 1:39:11.360 --> 1:39:13.760 it's an augmented reality game, which means that you play 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:16.840 it on your phone. Through your camera lens, you're looking 1:39:16.840 --> 1:39:18.920 at the real world, and then the game puts in 1:39:19.479 --> 1:39:23.040 virtual objects into your frame. So you have a virtual 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:26.120 pet that can go on walks with you. You can 1:39:26.120 --> 1:39:27.920 feed it and play with it, and it's all through 1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:28.960 the lens of your camera. 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:32.360 And it's neat because I was looking at it. Because 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:35.639 it's augmented reality, it says it can learn like your couch. 1:39:35.680 --> 1:39:38.639 It kind of knows the surfaces that it's looking at 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:41.240 through your camera, and it kind of interacts with those 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:45.559 surfaces in different ways. So it's a really unique spin 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:48.280 on sort of the standard, you know, video game that 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:50.240 you might play on your phone, because it is using 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:54.360 that augmented reality to kind of do different things. 1:39:54.040 --> 1:39:54.559 In the game. 1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:59.400 Yeah, there's some really impressive technology that went into this game. 1:39:59.439 --> 1:39:59.640 You know. 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:03.600 It recognize the differences between all kinds of different services, 1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:08.160 so it knows grass, water, concrete, shrubs, and the game 1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:10.679 will ask you to find certain things for your pet. 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.439 Your pet will want to go look at a tree 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:15.120 so it can scratch on it, and you'll have to 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:17.160 go out into the real world and point your camera 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:18.800 at a tree, and then you'll get to see your 1:40:18.840 --> 1:40:20.960 your pet run over dude and scratch on it. It's 1:40:21.000 --> 1:40:22.040 pretty impressive stuff. 1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:26.240 I named my paradot. I guess they're called dots, but 1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:28.840 I named him Spot or them. I don't know if 1:40:28.880 --> 1:40:32.800 it's you know, it's it's what it is, but I 1:40:32.880 --> 1:40:35.679 named it Spot. And it's very cute, and it's sort 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:40.080 of like modeled after various creatures in the real world, 1:40:40.160 --> 1:40:42.920 but it's it's definitely just a made up being, but 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:47.240 it's it is very cute, it's very like affable, and 1:40:47.280 --> 1:40:49.000 it's just kind of fun. I mean, I don't know 1:40:49.040 --> 1:40:51.040 what I'm doing in this game, to be honest, But 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:54.280 it's it's fun and I like just you know, throwing 1:40:54.320 --> 1:40:57.120 the ball and having this little creature fetch it and 1:40:57.120 --> 1:41:00.320 putting the creature in these various places where I am it. 1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:02.160 Just it looks like it's a part of the world 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:02.639 that I'm in. 1:41:04.160 --> 1:41:08.360 Yeah, you know, in terms of gameplay, it is pretty bare. 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:10.920 You can walk with them, you can play with them, 1:41:11.040 --> 1:41:13.640 and you can see them. But the real hook of 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:17.559 the game is the breeding function, because all of these 1:41:17.600 --> 1:41:20.280 dots that you described, they all have a series of 1:41:20.400 --> 1:41:23.040 unique traits and really no two dots are the same. 1:41:23.600 --> 1:41:25.719 So I think that the real hook of the game 1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:29.880 is finding other dots to mate with to make new 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:33.480 dots that have more complex and interesting traits. 1:41:33.960 --> 1:41:37.240 And I noticed on kind of the sharing aspect is 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:40.920 that you can see dots that are nearby, and so I. 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:42.720 Was a little bit curious about that too. 1:41:42.800 --> 1:41:44.640 There's like on a map you can see dots that 1:41:44.680 --> 1:41:47.519 were either visiting the same area or near the same area. 1:41:48.320 --> 1:41:50.680 My big question for you, Eric, do you think this 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:53.280 will be a blockbuster hit the way that Pokemon Go 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:57.639 was and still plays a big role in the mobile 1:41:57.680 --> 1:41:58.320 gaming world. 1:42:00.200 --> 1:42:03.200 Yeah, it's a good question, and I'm sure that Niantic 1:42:03.320 --> 1:42:06.120 is wondering the same thing. You know, Pokemon Go's strength 1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:09.280 is the Pokemon ip and while I think Pokemon Go 1:42:09.360 --> 1:42:10.880 is a great game, it wouldn't be the game it 1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:13.559 was if the world didn't love Pokemon as much as 1:42:13.560 --> 1:42:17.280 we do. So Paradox has an uphill battle on that way. 1:42:17.360 --> 1:42:21.000 I think the tech is really impressive, the characters are 1:42:21.040 --> 1:42:23.760 super adorable. I think for them, what it's really going 1:42:23.800 --> 1:42:26.000 to come down to is how fair and reasonable their 1:42:26.040 --> 1:42:29.000 monetization is. You know, more and more with mobile games, 1:42:29.080 --> 1:42:33.519 what is attracting players is the approachability aspect, and if 1:42:33.560 --> 1:42:36.080 they're asked to pay lots and lots of money to 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:39.240 continue playing that game, it's what pushes them away. And 1:42:39.600 --> 1:42:41.400 I think paradoig is trying to find a way to 1:42:41.479 --> 1:42:44.280 balance that at the moment with what they're expecting their 1:42:44.320 --> 1:42:45.320 players to pay for. 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:50.400 All Right, Eric Switzer from TheGamer dot Com thanks so 1:42:50.479 --> 1:42:52.479 much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. So 1:42:52.520 --> 1:42:53.960 which game are you going to play next? Are you 1:42:53.960 --> 1:42:56.479 going to play more of Zelda or more of Paradox 1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:57.160 this weekend? 1:42:57.560 --> 1:43:00.320 H I am hooked into Zelda. I can't put it down. 1:43:00.800 --> 1:43:02.680 Oh, that's amazing. All right, I've got it loaded up 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:04.799 on my switch here. I was not able to download 1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:06.800 it at the airport, so I had to wait. But 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:08.240 I've got it on there and I just have to 1:43:08.280 --> 1:43:11.160 start playing and any tips you can give me, anything 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:12.720 that I could kick off with. 1:43:16.600 --> 1:43:20.920 There's a lot of big gumball machines that are scattered 1:43:20.960 --> 1:43:23.599 around the world, and if you interact with those, they'll 1:43:23.600 --> 1:43:25.800 give you lots and lots of extra parts that you 1:43:25.840 --> 1:43:28.360 can use to make fun machines. So don't ignore those 1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:29.760 when you see them, all right. 1:43:29.920 --> 1:43:32.880 Eric Switzer from TheGamer dot Com, thanks for much for 1:43:32.960 --> 1:43:33.679 joining me today. 1:43:34.240 --> 1:43:35.880 Coming up, we're going to close out the show. 1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:38.960 We're going to do the feedback section, which is one 1:43:38.960 --> 1:43:41.840 of your favorite sections of the show. I'm gonna tell 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:45.680 you about a traffic light that only turns green when 1:43:45.720 --> 1:43:50.439 you're driving at the right speed. You're listening to Rich 1:43:50.479 --> 1:43:52.360 Demiro here on rich on Tech. 1:43:52.760 --> 1:43:54.200 More of the show coming up. 1:43:54.120 --> 1:44:01.800 Next, Welcome back to Britcha on Tech. Rich Demiro here 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:06.880 talking technology with you. 1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:10.320 We have had it all country line up today. 1:44:10.320 --> 1:44:12.200 For the most part, it's been a couple other little 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:16.120 things sprinkled in here and there, But we got a 1:44:16.120 --> 1:44:20.920 lot of country in this Austin based show today. Got 1:44:20.920 --> 1:44:22.519 a couple of things to talk about, and then we'll 1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:25.880 get to the feedback section. First off, Lift making a 1:44:25.960 --> 1:44:29.240 lot of changes. Big change they're going to make. They 1:44:29.240 --> 1:44:34.800 are discontinuing pooled rides. These were the super duper cheap 1:44:34.880 --> 1:44:36.960 rides that would put you in there with someone else 1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:39.719 in the car, not just the driver, but a random 1:44:39.760 --> 1:44:42.360 person that also needed to go somewhere. And yes, I've 1:44:42.400 --> 1:44:45.519 tried this. I've tried all of the different like Lift 1:44:45.640 --> 1:44:49.040 and Uber offerings throughout the years, and so I did 1:44:49.080 --> 1:44:51.599 this lift all I can't remember it was Left or Uber, 1:44:51.680 --> 1:44:54.280 one of them. But I did like the pool because 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:57.000 it was so much cheaper. I was going to I 1:44:57.000 --> 1:44:59.320 believe it was an Apple event, going from the airport 1:44:59.360 --> 1:45:02.360 to the Apple of which was being held at like 1:45:02.360 --> 1:45:05.639 the San Jose Convention Center. And I figured, everyone else 1:45:05.680 --> 1:45:08.240 that's landing with me right now at the airport must 1:45:08.240 --> 1:45:10.920 be going to the same place, So chances are I'm 1:45:10.960 --> 1:45:12.760 just going to be linked up with someone else that's 1:45:12.800 --> 1:45:15.200 going to the convention center and my ride is going 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:18.360 to be like seven bucks instead of like thirty. And 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:20.800 sure enough, it was great, it was fine. We didn't 1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:22.800 really chat with the person that was I didn't chat 1:45:22.800 --> 1:45:23.599 with the person in the car. 1:45:23.640 --> 1:45:24.360 I might have said hi. 1:45:25.160 --> 1:45:30.080 But ANYWAYT is discontinuing shared rides, they said this week. 1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:34.240 The reason it takes people out of their way because 1:45:34.280 --> 1:45:36.320 not every time you're going to be going to the 1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:38.080 same place as the person in the car with you. 1:45:38.120 --> 1:45:40.120 I mean they tried to make it to the same area, 1:45:40.200 --> 1:45:43.679 but not always the same place. Lift started these things 1:45:43.680 --> 1:45:48.120 back in twenty fourteen. Uber followed with Uber pool. The 1:45:48.160 --> 1:45:51.719 companies both stopped doing these pooled rides during the pandemic 1:45:51.760 --> 1:45:56.200 for obvious reasons, and they gradually reintroduced them last year. 1:45:56.840 --> 1:46:00.599 But now Lift is saying no more. Yes, we'll still 1:46:00.600 --> 1:46:02.400 do this. If they still do it, I'm not really 1:46:02.400 --> 1:46:05.200 sure if they do it. But Lift is focusing on 1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:09.479 boosting their airport rides, which makes up about ten percent 1:46:09.479 --> 1:46:11.720 of their trips. They want to make it easier for 1:46:11.760 --> 1:46:14.080 customers to pre book a trip. I noticed that I 1:46:14.080 --> 1:46:17.080 got a notification on my phone. I guess it was 1:46:17.080 --> 1:46:19.560 connected to my calendar, and it said, hey, do you 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:21.160 want to book a ride to the airport. When I 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:23.560 noticed that I was going to the airport. And the 1:46:23.640 --> 1:46:26.879 thing about these airport scheduled rides with Lift and Stuff 1:46:26.920 --> 1:46:30.120 and Uber is like, since Uber and Lyft are on demand, 1:46:30.360 --> 1:46:31.200 I always find. 1:46:31.040 --> 1:46:32.400 It odd to schedule a ride. 1:46:32.439 --> 1:46:34.400 It's like, why not just do it on demand because 1:46:34.439 --> 1:46:36.479 you can get a car most of the time pretty easily. 1:46:37.080 --> 1:46:40.400 I actually tested out a service called Alto for my 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:43.000 ride to the airport this time, and this is super 1:46:43.080 --> 1:46:44.160 duper fancy stuff. 1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:47.519 So this Alto situation. 1:46:47.840 --> 1:46:51.040 Is a company that they have their own fleet of 1:46:51.120 --> 1:46:55.200 luxury vehicles and all of their drivers are w two employees, 1:46:55.600 --> 1:46:57.840 so they give them benefits like four oh one k's 1:46:57.920 --> 1:47:06.040 hourly pay and health benefits. This is operating in Houston, Dallas, LA, Miami, Washington, 1:47:06.160 --> 1:47:11.080 d C. And San Francisco. And so they have the 1:47:11.120 --> 1:47:14.080 guy picked me up. It was a scheduled ride. Way 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:16.960 more I would say, way more expensive than sort of 1:47:17.280 --> 1:47:20.519 a Lift or an Uber at their cheapest tier, but 1:47:20.640 --> 1:47:25.360 maybe on par with an Uber Black or a Lift Lux, 1:47:25.560 --> 1:47:27.680 you know where it's like the really high end. This 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:30.040 is more like a car service if you're familiar with that. 1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:33.720 So Alto is much more of like a almost like 1:47:33.720 --> 1:47:38.200 a show first service. I would say women in safety. 1:47:38.280 --> 1:47:41.040 That's the main reason why people use Alto. 1:47:42.320 --> 1:47:42.439 To. 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:46.400 Fifty five percent of Alto riders are women and Alto 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:48.679 drivers eleven Let's see Alto. 1:47:49.000 --> 1:47:51.040 What am I looking at here? Oh? That I thought 1:47:51.040 --> 1:47:53.240 this was cool. The Alto vehicles. 1:47:52.840 --> 1:47:56.080 Come equipped with cameras in real time monitoring, so I 1:47:56.080 --> 1:47:58.160 thought that was neat, which is linked to a manned 1:47:58.240 --> 1:48:01.960 Alto dispatch center. They've got two thousand drivers and four 1:48:02.040 --> 1:48:04.800 hundred vehicles on the road. They have six hundred to 1:48:04.880 --> 1:48:06.600 hit the road in twenty twenty three. And you have 1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:08.040 to be a member, by the way, or you don't 1:48:08.080 --> 1:48:10.000 have to be, but it's cheaper if you're a member, 1:48:10.600 --> 1:48:13.160 so they say seventy five percent are member. So anyway, 1:48:13.200 --> 1:48:16.400 Alto if you want an alternative to lift an uber, 1:48:16.479 --> 1:48:18.400 but just keep in mind it is more expensive, but 1:48:18.439 --> 1:48:21.799 it's more like a chauffeur. So this is like think fancy, fancy, 1:48:21.840 --> 1:48:24.439 fancy ride to the airport or fancy fancy ride to 1:48:24.479 --> 1:48:28.880 pick up someone from the airport. Okay, let's let me 1:48:28.920 --> 1:48:32.640 tell you about this new light. This traffic light in Quebec. 1:48:33.040 --> 1:48:36.800 It only turns green for safe drivers. This is in 1:48:36.840 --> 1:48:41.000 the Canadian city of Brossard. Near Montreal, they have a 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:44.360 new traffic light in a school zone that turns green 1:48:44.520 --> 1:48:48.080 for safe drivers. They call it fred. The light is 1:48:48.160 --> 1:48:50.559 red by default, but it turns green when the speed 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:53.920 camera detects your car going at a speed limit that's 1:48:54.040 --> 1:48:58.439 under the posted speed. So it's not really a real 1:48:58.520 --> 1:49:01.160 signal per se, but it just makes you slow down. 1:49:01.200 --> 1:49:02.960 I guess if you see a red light, you're probably 1:49:03.000 --> 1:49:03.920 gonna stop. I guess. 1:49:04.439 --> 1:49:07.040 So. Similar signals have been used in Europe for years. 1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:09.360 This is on a ninety day trial in a two 1:49:09.400 --> 1:49:13.240 lane street that runs through a suburban area. The mayor 1:49:13.320 --> 1:49:16.519 said most vehicles go through that area at twenty five 1:49:16.520 --> 1:49:19.160 miles an hour, but in the past week average speeds 1:49:19.160 --> 1:49:22.640 have dropped to eighteen miles an hour. They say it 1:49:22.680 --> 1:49:25.080 doesn't record any private information. It's just a text that 1:49:25.160 --> 1:49:28.439 the vehicle is doing the speed it should to kind 1:49:28.439 --> 1:49:30.280 of help people just slow down in that area. 1:49:30.479 --> 1:49:32.360 So kind of a smart idea. I like that. 1:49:32.960 --> 1:49:35.920 All right, let's get to the feedback. Dion says, great 1:49:35.960 --> 1:49:40.000 show you put out Sunday. I'm listening in Montana. I 1:49:40.040 --> 1:49:42.120 heard a woman call in wanting to know how to 1:49:42.120 --> 1:49:44.400 get internet on her radio. I have not found a 1:49:44.439 --> 1:49:46.280 way to do this either. What I do want to share, 1:49:46.600 --> 1:49:50.280 I have a transistor radio which continuously picks up plays 1:49:50.320 --> 1:49:52.160 the weather that has picked. 1:49:51.920 --> 1:49:54.519 Off picked up off of an FAA wave. 1:49:54.600 --> 1:49:56.640 It's not Internet, but I'd say it's as close to 1:49:56.760 --> 1:49:59.519 as she's going to come with a radio device. Got 1:49:59.560 --> 1:50:01.920 a lot of feedback about the caller last week that 1:50:02.040 --> 1:50:04.960 was asking for some sort of radio that would pick 1:50:05.000 --> 1:50:11.439 up Internet radio streaming and also THEAA radio stream. Greg says, hey, Rich, 1:50:11.479 --> 1:50:14.240 I heard the segment with a woman that wanted anaa radio. 1:50:14.680 --> 1:50:18.080 Sporties dot com has some aviation radios. The cheapest one 1:50:18.120 --> 1:50:20.440 is one hundred and ninety nine dollars. They're kind of expensive. 1:50:21.400 --> 1:50:24.240 And let's say I think there's one more on this, oh, 1:50:25.280 --> 1:50:28.200 Neil said, and this is about the Aura frame. The 1:50:28.240 --> 1:50:30.679 guest we had last week, the digital frame called Aura. 1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:34.840 He said, when we became grandparents, our daughter gifted us 1:50:34.880 --> 1:50:37.400 one of these frames. They seem expensive, but they work 1:50:37.560 --> 1:50:40.680 really well and they have all the features being spot on. 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:43.960 Being ten hours away from our kids is balanced by 1:50:44.000 --> 1:50:49.000 receiving new pictures as grandchild grows. Neil so Neil liked 1:50:49.040 --> 1:50:52.360 the guest talking about the Aura frames. I love that thing. 1:50:52.439 --> 1:50:54.960 Great gift. I can't believe that's going to do it 1:50:55.000 --> 1:50:57.640 for this show. Next week, I'm going to tell you 1:50:57.640 --> 1:51:00.960 about a website that lets you research and report scams 1:51:01.080 --> 1:51:04.000 you don't become a victim of them again. You can 1:51:04.000 --> 1:51:07.000 find me on social media. I am at rich on tech. 1:51:07.360 --> 1:51:10.679 The website to go to is richon tech dot tv. 1:51:10.960 --> 1:51:13.080 You can check it out For notes to what I 1:51:13.160 --> 1:51:15.559 mentioned here, I also put them in the podcast, so 1:51:15.560 --> 1:51:17.719 if you're listening to the podcast version, looking the notes 1:51:17.760 --> 1:51:19.799 for anything that I talk about here on the show. 1:51:20.640 --> 1:51:23.520 This has been a fantastic show from Austin, Texas. 1:51:24.240 --> 1:51:25.200 What a cool city. 1:51:25.320 --> 1:51:28.080 I love traveling because it gives me so much perspective 1:51:28.160 --> 1:51:31.560 on the world. For instance, I can tell you prices 1:51:31.800 --> 1:51:35.640 in Austin, Texas are cheaper than prices in Los Angeles. 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:38.240 That's the one thing I've noticed here so far. And 1:51:38.280 --> 1:51:41.000 people are very friendly. My name is rich Demiel. Thanks 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:42.840 so much for listening. There are so many ways you 1:51:42.880 --> 1:51:45.200 can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it 1:51:45.320 --> 1:51:49.120 right here with me. Thanks to everyone everywhere who makes 1:51:49.160 --> 1:51:52.360 this show possible. As they say in the South, I'm 1:51:52.400 --> 1:51:55.720 fixing to talk to you real soon take care 1:52:00.040 --> 1:52:00.400 And