1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Google explains how it will be bold yet responsible with AI, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: and unveils a five hundred dollars pixel, a foldable pixel, 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and a pixel tablet. The best anti virus programs, and 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: watch out for this new Chrome scan that might install 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: mildware on your computer. It can trick anyone. Oh yeah, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: plus your tech questions answered. What's going on on rich 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Demiro And this is rich on Tech, the show where 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: know about. It's also the place where I answer your 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. This is 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: show number nineteen. Whoo number nineteen. Phone lines are open 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: me a call. If you have a question about technology, 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: email is also open. Just send it to hello at 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: richon Tech dot TV. Well hello there from Austin, Texas. Yeah, 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: here for the Iheartcountry Festival. This is a concert that 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: we are going to. Very exciting. So of course Austin 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: a little bit different than Los Angeles. So we got 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: in and we immediately went and got some barbecue and 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: What I love about the world of Instagram and social 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: media is that there are so many suggestions from folks. 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: It makes it really easy to pick where to go. 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: So I put a. 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Story on my Instagram saying, hey, where do you think 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: we should go to eat while we're in Austin? And 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I got lots of good suggestions, and so of course 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I just took the best ones that bubbled up to 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the top, that were the most. So if I got 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the most suggestions for a place, clearly a lot of 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: people like it, a lot of people have been there. 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: So we picked our barbecue place last night based on 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: you and it was excellent. It was exactly what I want, 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: cafeteria style. You walk through the line, it kind of 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: snakes through all the different food, and then they carve 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: up the barbecue right in front of you. 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: And it was. 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Delicious, so so good. So thank you for your suggestions 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: on my Instagram. 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: At rich on. 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Tech last night, we also went out for a little bit. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's a very lively city and I've been 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: here a bunch of times for south By Southwest. My 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: wife has never been here, so it was kind of 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: exciting for her to see it for the first time. 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: And of course we took in some live music, which 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: is there are many many places to do that here. 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: But I noticed something that's kind of interesting that the 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: performers now instead of sort of a tip jar, which 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: they still kind of have, but they all have these 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: QR codes that you can scan to tip them via 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Venmo or the cash app. And I thought that was 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: interesting because, I mean, the tip the cash tip is still. 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: I think the best thing out there. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Now. 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons why you want to have 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: that QR code. It's because people aren't carrying as much 59 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: cash these days, and so I get that, but it 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: just feels weird to scan a code and give someone 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: a tip versus just going up there and giving them 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: a couple of bucks. 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: And I get it. 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Maybe people tip more because it's Venmo, and like, are 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: you really going to tip a dollar on Venmo? 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: Now? 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: You're probably gonna give like five bucks. 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: So maybe it's a better thing that they have both options, 69 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: but I just thought that was interesting. Also, the hotel 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: where we're saying is kind of cool. It has a 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: record player in the room. So I chose the hotel 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: because that was kind of the the thing that I 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: thought was really neat to have a record player in 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: the room. So we actually got to our first room 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: and the first thing I looked for was the record player, 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: and lo and behold, no record player. And I was like, 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: wait what The one thing I wanted at this hotel 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: was the record player in the room. They didn't have 79 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: it in the room, and so I called down to 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: the front desk. I said, no, it's there. Just look around. 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I said, I can see the entire room where I'm 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: standing right now, and I don't see a record player. 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh, we can bring one up. 84 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: So I went back down to the room, went back 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: down and said, you know, can you just give us 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: a room that has it? And they said, sure, we'll 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: give you a different room. So we get in the 88 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: other room and sure enough, record players right there. They 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: also have a record concierge, so they have a person 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: whose job it is to help you select records. 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: So you go down to the lobby. 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: The person standing there, obviously they know music, and gave 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: us about five or six albums. Said hey, start the 94 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: night out with this and the night with this. And 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: it was so great because I'm putting on records something 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: I haven't done well. I mean, look, I grew up 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: with record with a record player in my home. It 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: was not something I typically used, like my era started 99 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more with tapes and then CDs and 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: then MP three's and then streaming so and of course 101 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you know FM radio, so delivering my newspapers, listening to 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: my FM radio walkman. But the record player was something 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: we had and it was really neat, so I was 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: aware of how it worked, and so I didn't know 105 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: if I was going to know how to put the 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: record on and play it. But sure enough, I put 107 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the little record on, I moved the needle. You get 108 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: that little crackly sound at the beginning, and it plays 109 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: the music and it just was really fun because it's 110 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: a record and it's not something that you typically do. 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: But the problem with the record, and. 112 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I remember this from one of my best friends who 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: happens to be from Texas, and he would always have 114 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: a record playing when we went to dinner at his 115 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: place and we'd go over there and you know, he'd 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: play the record and the problem was the record would 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: stop after about a half an hour. And you know, 118 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what a side of a record last. 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it's more than a half an hour. 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: But we've become so accustomed to unlimited music that it's 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of odd to have something stop. But on the 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: flip side, when you are putting a record on, it 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: is very is a very mindful activity, right. You can't 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: just randomly listen to music. When you're putting a record on. 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: You have to select the record, you have to take 126 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: it out of its sleeve, you have to place it 127 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: on the record player, you have to move that needle 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and you are playing something. If you're using one of 129 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: these music apps, there's no way you just press shuffle 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: and it starts and it goes on forever and ever 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: and ever. This is a much more mindful way of 132 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: listening to music, so you know the album, you know 133 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: the artist, and it's a different experience. So I highly 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: recommend if you have not played with the record player 135 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: in a long time to try it now. Myself, I 136 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: have a Sonos system at home, and when I was 137 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: at CES, I saw this record player that connects to Sonos. 138 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: It's let's see, what's the brand here, Victrola, which obviously 139 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: that's a brand that's been around forever. I'm not sure 140 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: if it's the same company ownership as it was back 141 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: in the day. But they have a turntable, the Aunks 142 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: that works with Sonos, so this wirelessly connects to your 143 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: sons Now. The reason I didn't buy it immediately when 144 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I saw it at CES, even though I thought it 145 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: was cool, is because it's six hundred dollars. But after 146 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: talking to my wife last night and how much we 147 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: enjoyed this record hair situation, I think I may have 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: convinced her to let me invest in this record player. 149 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: And it does work with my Sonos system. But then, 150 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: of course now I have to start buying albums and 151 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: I've got to do that whole thing. But there's just 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: something so classic and so fun about listening to vinyl 153 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: that it's a very very neat experience. 154 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: So I may do this. Ah, so much fun stuff 155 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: this week. 156 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Google Io was this week, which is Google's big developers conference. 157 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: This was the first time in four years that Google 158 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: did something in person. So they've done their developers conference 159 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: throughout the pandemic, but it just wasn't really a big deal. 160 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: They still had announcements, but this was the first time 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: in four years that you could go up there, and 162 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: so I did. I was in Mountain View earlier this week. 163 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Google does this at a place called Shoreline Amphitheater and 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: it's a big kind of outdoor amphitheater that they do 165 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: concerts at, but they also do Google Io and Google 166 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Io is where they have developers come to sort of 167 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: see what tools are available to them to code apps, 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: to code search things, to code Android, just what tools 169 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Google is working on to let developers use in whatever 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: they're making that works with Google. 171 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: And so it was really fun. 172 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: It was such a great experience to go up there 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: and not just see all of the products, because they 174 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: announced three new products, a five hundred dollars pixel phone, 175 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: a brand new eighteen hundred dollars foldable pixel phone that's 176 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: something I'm also trying to maybe that might be my 177 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: next phone, and also a pixel tablet. But by going 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: to these events, it gives me the perspective I need 179 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: to be able to talk about these products. And later 180 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: in the show we're going to talk to someone else 181 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: that was there as well and talk to them and 182 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: kind of get their thoughts on all these different things. 183 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: And this show is going to be very Google heavy, 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: I will admit, So if you don't like Google or 185 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: you have a problem with Google. You may not like 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: the show today, but I promise it's still going to 187 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: be fun. It's still going to be interesting, and we're 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: still going to have lots of calls and lots of 189 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. These events that I go to. 190 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: It's a lot, you know. You go up there, there's 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of other journalists. We're all trying to get 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: our stories filed. I had to file mine for TV 193 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: for the next day. I was actually shooting my entire 194 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: story myself, So I went up there solo recorded everything 195 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: and then wrote the story and then sent it back 196 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to my editor in Los Angeles. He edited it, and 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: then I flew back and then we were on the 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: news in the morning. So it's a lot, but it 199 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. It was a lot of challenge. 200 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: But the best thing was that the internet was so 201 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: slow this year. I don't know why. I was on 202 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Wi Fi and I had like twelve gigs of stuff. 203 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: I had to send twelve gigabytes of stuff like video 204 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: that I just sent down to Los Angeles, and it 205 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: just wasn't happening. It was giving me like hours and 206 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: hours of time that it was going to take. And 207 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I was like that's not going to work. So I 208 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: found a wired Ethernet connection. I plugged my computer in 209 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding. It was the fastest Internet I 210 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen in my life. Because the twelve 211 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: gigabytes that was taking about seventeen hours to go up 212 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: via the Wi Fi. It went up in about I 213 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: would say less than a minute. It was maybe sixty seconds. 214 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: And I texted my photographer and I said, hey, everything's up. 215 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: It's ready to go, and he's like, what changed? I said, 216 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: I found some Ethernet. So if you ever need stuff 217 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: to go up much faster, just find an Ethernet connection 218 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that will take care of it. All right, 219 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I've got lots more to talk about with Google throughout 220 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the show. I'm gonna talk about all the different hardware announcements, 221 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: the way AI is gonna get into more things. We're 222 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about how search is changing. There is so 223 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: much to talk about when it comes to Google. So 224 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all of that. But I've got 225 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: some great guests as well coming up on today's show. 226 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do the Pixel, We're gonna do the 227 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Pixel tablet, We're gonna do the pixel fold. Then I've 228 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: got some great guests. We've got Miriam Juar of the 229 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Mobile Tech Podcast. They're gonna join me to talk all 230 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: things Google, especially that pixel seven A and that fold. 231 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I've got n gadget Sherlyn Lowe to explain the difference, 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,359 Speaker 1: to explain her experience with Project Starline. This is Google's 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: holographic version of Zoom. It's quite incredible. It's quite interesting, uh, Sherilyn. 234 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: We will talk about that and then later. If you've 235 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: got a gamer in your life, they're playing one of 236 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: two games right now. They're either playing Zelda or they're 237 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: playing the new game from Pokemon Go Paradot. So we're 238 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Eric Switzer ofthegamer dot com about those 239 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: two games, which are a lot of fun. 240 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: But first it is your turn. 241 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: We've got your phone calls coming up next at triple 242 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 243 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. 244 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: You are listening to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Demiro. 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you coming up next. Welcome back to 246 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: rich on Tech. 247 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology from Austin, Texas. 248 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: The phone lines are open at triple eight rich one 249 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four 250 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: to one zero one. Welcome to the show Google Io 251 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: held this week up in Mountain View, California. I was there, 252 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: and everyone's sort of wondering what Google is going to 253 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: do with AI. Google has some of the best AI 254 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: engineers in the world. They've been talking about AI long 255 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: before it was cool, long before every other company has 256 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: jumped on the bandwagon. 257 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: And I don't think that. 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: Google is going to get AI wrong because number one, 259 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: they're already using it in so many little ways in 260 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: their products. Maybe they didn't talk it up as much, 261 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: but they've always infused AI into a lot of their things. 262 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: And so here are some of the new things coming 263 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: out with AI in Google. So number one, they showed 264 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: off this feature called help me Write in Gmail. So 265 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen we got something I can't believe it's 266 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: been that long. 267 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Called smart Reply. 268 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: So these are the little replies when you're on the 269 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Gmail app or the website that if someone says, hey, 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: is lunch at twelve thirty, good for you, and at 271 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: the bottom it might say good for me. Sounds good, yep, 272 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: And so you can just tap one of those and 273 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: send off the email, and that's called a smart reply. 274 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Then came smart Compose, which if you're typing an email, 275 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: it will kind of complete your sentence. So if I 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: say something like sure, that sounds really good, it'll complete 277 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: that or great, it'll say to hear from you, and 278 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: you just press tab and it will complete your Gmail typing. 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: So that's really cool. But now they've got help Me Write. 280 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: This is an AI feature that will write your entire email. 281 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: And what's neat about this is that it can use 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: details from a previous email. So the example they gave is, 283 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: let's say your airline canceled your flight or changed your 284 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: flight or something. They said, hey, we're going to give 285 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: you a seventy five dollars credit. Well, you can respond 286 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: to that email and then say Google, help me write. 287 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Gmail helped Me Write, and it will take the details 288 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: from that previous email, your flight info, how much they 289 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: offered you, all that good stuff, and it will compose 290 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: an entire email with a couple of things from you. 291 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: So you might say, help me write an email back 292 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: to this airline that says I don't think your seventy 293 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: five dollars is good enough. I think I deserve a 294 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars flight credit, and it will write the entire email. 295 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: And then you can go ahead, after it writes the 296 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: entire email, say can you be more persuasive, and it 297 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: will even tweak it further. You can say can you 298 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: be more conversational? Can you be more fun? Whatever you want. 299 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: So that is a really cool feature that's just going 300 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: to help people write entire emails. And like we've said before, 301 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: everything is going to start with a first draft. From 302 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: now on, you're never gonna have to really write anything 303 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: from scratch, which is kind of wild because that's a 304 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: big departure from what we've experienced in the past. All right, 305 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: in Google Maps, they've got this new immersive view. So 306 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: let's say, for instance, last night we were here in Austin. 307 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: We were wondering if we can walk to the restaurant, 308 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: and you're kind of curious, like, what are you walking through? 309 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: It looked like we were walking through a campus of 310 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: a college, and so can you do that? Well now 311 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: on Google Maps, because they've all of these images from 312 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: street view, and they've got all of these satellite images, 313 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: they fuse them together for something called immersive view for routes. 314 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: So you can actually take a look at the route 315 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: and take a bird's eye flyover view and see exactly 316 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: what it's going to look like to walk, drive, or 317 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: bicycle a certain route. Now, this reminds me of a 318 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: feature that All Trails recently put on their app, and 319 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: I told you about it on the show. I forget 320 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: what it's called, but it's like an immersive view as well. 321 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: But you can take a look at what a trail 322 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: is going to look like before you hike that trail. 323 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: And it's a very similar feature that Google has now introduced. 324 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: So in the future we're gonna be able to ride 325 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: or drive or fly over a route before we actually 326 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: ever take it. 327 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: So that's interesting. 328 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: So that's maps that's going to roll out this summer 329 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: launch in fifteen cities by the end of the year, 330 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: including London, New York, Tokyo, and San Francisco. The other 331 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: cool thing, of course, this is quite googly. You can 332 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: check the air quality, traffic, and weather to see how 333 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: they might change depending on the time of day that 334 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: you are taking that route. So they showed off that 335 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: as well. If it's going to be raining, you can 336 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: see that on the route and then in Google Photos 337 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: they've got this new Magic Editor experience. So this was 338 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: first introduced. The magic eraser was first introduced on Google Photos. 339 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: That's where you can just circle something and have it 340 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: erase what's in a picture. But this is much more thorough. 341 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: This will kind of transform everything in the picture. And 342 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: so the example they used is, let's say you've got 343 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: this kid sitting on a bench. Took a picture of 344 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: your kid holding some balloons on a bench, but you 345 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: kind of were a little bit too over, so the 346 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: balloons are cut off and you want to center up 347 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: the child a little bit more in the picture. Well 348 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: you literally just just take, you know, hover over the 349 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: child and then pull them over to the right into 350 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: the center of the picture, and AI will generate what's 351 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: missing from the left side of the picture. So all 352 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of the balloons, it'll complete them, it will complete the bench, 353 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: and the child can move over. And then of course 354 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: it will make the entire picture kind of smoothed out 355 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: so it doesn't look. 356 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: Like you edited it. 357 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: It will kind of make the lighting look right and 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: the sky look right, whatever you want. And this is 359 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: called Magic Editor, and that's coming out soon. It looks 360 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: like that is going to come out to Pixel owners first, 361 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: so if you have a Pixel smartphone, that will come 362 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: to you first. But again, these are just some of 363 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: the small examples of AI that are coming to Google products. 364 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: Those were the three big ones. They also showed off 365 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: what search is going to look like, and search is 366 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: now going to have AI at the top of your results, 367 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: and then at the bottom are going to be those 368 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: ten blue links. So if you want to try these 369 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: things now, they actually have a certain website you can 370 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: go to. If you're searching on Google, you will see 371 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: a little kind of experimental beaker in the upper left 372 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: hand corner of your search. You tap that and you 373 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: can sign up to try some of these new features. 374 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: First. 375 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we've got Miriam Juar to talk 376 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: all things Google. Miriam's from the Mobile Tech podcast that's 377 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: coming up next right here on rich on Tech on 378 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro plus your calls at triple eight rich one 379 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: O one. Welcome back to rich on Tech, Rich Demiro 380 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology at triple eight 381 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven four 382 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: to two, four to one zero one. 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All right, 389 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: My next guest is host of Mobile Tech podcast, Miriam 390 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Juwar was up there in Mountain View with me at 391 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: the Google event and welcome to the show. 392 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Miriam. 393 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: Hi, Why Rich? 394 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: How's it going? 395 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: It is going fantastic, So so much to talk about 396 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: from Google's big events. Where should we start. What was 397 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: your initial impression of sort of the event at large? 398 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: Lots of AI? I was like, why if I had 399 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 5: to summarize it, you know, lots of AI and some 400 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: cool devices, that would be my summary. 401 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: And how do you think Google delivered with the AI stuff? 402 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Because you know a lot of people are wondering this 403 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: is a big change in the way Google does business 404 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: because potentially, when you're asking AI for answers, you know 405 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: there might not be room for as much advertising as 406 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: there is in traditional search. So do you feel like 407 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: that's a threat to Google's kind of prime business? 408 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: I think ultimately it is, but I think they were 409 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 5: prepared for it, you know they have. When they announced 410 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 5: bart I thought, hey, there, this is this is the 411 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 5: first shoe to drop, and the second shoe will be 412 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 5: adding you know, some sort of eye to search. And 413 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: then of course, you know, there's the whole they've been 414 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 5: working on Palm, you know now that Palm two, which 415 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: is there, you know, a large language model for a 416 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: while now, and that seems to be getting integrated in 417 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: so many products. That's the thing that really surprised me. 418 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: It wasn't just search, but they have, like, you know, 419 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: ways for Gmail to improve your email writing. They have 420 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 5: ways for you to create documents and Google docs. They 421 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 5: have ways to if you're a Google Cloud customer, to 422 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 5: integrate the AI into that. So it's not just a 423 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 5: consumer play, it's like a business play. They're going basically 424 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: all in and it makes sense. They don't really have 425 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: a choice. 426 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also they're really good at AI, and it 427 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense for what the products that they offer. 428 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: They've always been largely infused with a sort of an 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: AI machine learning kind of stuff, but nowadays it's like, okay, 430 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: AI is the hot thing, so let's let's just go 431 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: all in on that. Okay, So we also saw a 432 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: lot of products, well three products in particular. We saw 433 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: a five hundred dollars Pixel seven A, and we saw 434 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: an eighteen hundred dollars Pixel fold which is a foldable phone, 435 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: and then we also saw a Pixel tablet. So let's 436 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: start with that seven A. So this is the five 437 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollars kind of entry level Pixel phone. They made 438 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: some improvements this year, things like face unlock, it's got 439 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: a little bit more ram, it's got a better display. 440 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: But this is a I think, from everything I've heard 441 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: from everyone talking about it, a really solid choice for 442 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: an entry level phone, even though it is fifty dollars 443 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: more than it was, you know, in years past. 444 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: So what do you make of this phone? 445 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a proper flagship for five hundred dollars, 446 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: which is quite the feat. You know. I think that 447 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: the Pixel A series with this seven as finally gone 448 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: from you know, a mid ranges phone with some flagship 449 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: features to a proper flagship and fifty dollars more. For that, 450 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 5: I think it's worth it. But it tells me another story, 451 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 5: and the story is that, you know, Google's try to 452 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: simplify a little bit all those new products include the 453 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 5: same new ten Sergy two chip that came with the 454 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 5: Pixel seven and seven Pro in the fall, so they're 455 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 5: using a flagship chip on everything. And in addition to that, 456 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 5: you know, we're seeing these this this Pixel seven A 457 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 5: gaining things like high refresh rate niney hertz display, like 458 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 5: wireless charging. So that tells me the Pixel eight right 459 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: that is going to replace the seven which is right 460 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: now only one hundred dollars more than this new seven 461 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: A is probably going to cost more and might have 462 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: more features, because it would be nice to space them 463 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 5: two hundred dollars apart right now. You know, the seven 464 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 5: A starts at five hundred, then you had six hundred, 465 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: you got the seven which is you know, almost identical really, 466 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: and then you know, like the nine hundred dollars you 467 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: have the seven Pro and that's a big jump, right, 468 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking two hundred dollars apart once they eight 469 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 5: and eight pro land in October. But for now, I 470 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: think this is a killer phone if you can, you know, 471 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: kind of pry yourself away from Apple or Samsung, which 472 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 5: are the two dominant phonemakers in North America and the 473 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: US in particular. I would say, this is a killer 474 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: package for the money. It has absolutely everything you need. 475 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: It is the phone that I trust my mom with, 476 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: so I get her the Google the kind of the 477 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: A or one of the pixels. 478 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: Every year or not every year, every. 479 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Time she upgrades, and it's always it's always a fantastic device, 480 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: and people are always saying like, how are your pictures 481 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: so good? 482 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: How are your pictures so good? 483 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: The thing that she doesn't get is the like you mentioned, 484 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the whole I message world, which you know, Apple has 485 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: been really really good about keeping that exclusive to their products, 486 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: and it makes sense because it keeps a lot of 487 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: people on their devices. All right now, this pixel fold 488 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: this is an eighteen hundred dollars device. This is not 489 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: going to be for everyone, but it's actually pretty good. 490 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sitting here like, could this be my 491 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: next phone? Because I'm ready. I'm kind of bored with 492 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: the standard phones at this point. I've tested all of them, 493 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: and this one is really unique because it opens up 494 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: to a giant seven point six inch screen, so that's 495 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of like a tablet size. On the outside of 496 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: the phone, you get a nice I think it's a 497 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: five point eight in screen that's actually usable, unlike the 498 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: Samsung one. 499 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: So tell me your thoughts about this phone. 500 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm a pixel user. I have a 501 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 5: Pixel seven pro, so obviously very interested in a folding pixel. 502 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: This is it. 503 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 5: There are obviously some things that could be better, but overall, 504 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: I think this is a proper competitor to Samsung's Galaxy 505 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 5: z Fold four, which will be soon, you know, be 506 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: followed by a z Fold five. So let's see what 507 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: happens there. But I think, as you kind of nailed it, 508 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 5: the thing that really matters here is the form factor. 509 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: Right abroad in China and other countries in Europe, there's 510 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 5: a company named Oppo, and they make a folding phone 511 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: that has a similar form factor, more like a passport 512 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: so basically shorter height, a little wider rather than that 513 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: super skinny form factor that Samsung has been using with 514 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: the z fold series. And personally, I think this is 515 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: a better form factor because you can use it one 516 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: handed when it's shut, and then you can up to 517 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: this huge tablet experience I mean usual relatively speaking for 518 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 5: something that unfolds, and I think that's going to differentiate 519 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 5: this phone. And it's about the same price as the 520 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 5: Galaxy Z Fold. So you know, in that sense, I 521 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: think it's it's a pretty good competitor. You know, the pixel, 522 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: the tensor G two chip, the chip that runs the 523 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 5: show here is not as powerful as what Qualcom and 524 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 5: Media Tech can deliver these days, or even Apple with 525 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 5: their chips. So there's a bit of that, but I 526 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: think it mostly reflects in terms of battery life. So 527 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: we'll see in our reviews how battery life folds up. 528 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 5: We know the cameras are going to be killer, and 529 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: then you know, there's the other thing that I think 530 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 5: could be improved is the charging speed. Twenty one wht 531 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: is a little slow these days in the flagship space, 532 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 5: but look for a first try. It's one of the 533 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: thinnest falling phones you can buy six millimeters or something 534 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: slightly thicker than the Champion, which is a phone out 535 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: of China called the Chami Mi Mix to fold. And 536 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: so you know, like you can complain. I think Google 537 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 5: did their homework and it does everything, has it does 538 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: have everything, and the kitchen sink. 539 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: So so the fold. 540 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny because it's eighteen hundred dollars, but 541 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: they're giving you this this watch with it right, the 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Pixel Watch, which is like three hundred and fifty to 543 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars. So a lot of people are saying, 544 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: why don't you just not give me the watch and 545 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: take four hundred dollars off the price of this phone, 546 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: because fourteen hundred dollars seems a lot better. That's like 547 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: much more achievable if you really want something that's high end. 548 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: Well, you know, that's the thing that's been happening. A 549 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: lot of people are buying these flagship phones, whether they're 550 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: Pixels or Samsung or Apple even iPhones, you know, with 551 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: trade ins and getting deals right, and that they have 552 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 5: a lot of Pixel watches sitting around. It hasn't been 553 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: a super popular product, even though it's a great android 554 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: to watch right. So I think they're probably like, this 555 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: is a great way to kind of satisfy people without 556 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: you know, having to drop the price. And if you 557 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: look at the Pixel seven A, there's some great deals too. 558 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 5: If you get it directly from Google, you can get 559 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 5: a custom color called Coral, which is this orange superb color, 560 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 5: and then you can get a pair of Pixel buds 561 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: a for free. And I think if you buy it 562 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: from best Buy, you get a fifty dollars rebate like 563 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 5: a card you can use. So I think this is 564 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 5: kind of part for the course. I don't think this 565 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: watch thing is you know, a replacement for selling this. 566 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: That fourteen hundred is just kind of like, well, let's 567 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: sweeten the deal. But we I think they're not making 568 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: any money on this phone. There's no way, you know. 569 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: And I really fell in love with the Samsung by 570 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: the way, except for that tiny outside screen. I was 571 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: doing everything on the Fold. I was doing you know, 572 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: I was reading, like I used it as a kindle. 573 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: It was great because you can watch movies and videos 574 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: on it on the plane without any sort of like 575 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: extra you know, accessories, And it was just that outside 576 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: screen was so small. So the fact that Google made 577 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: this outside screen usable and it feels great in your hand, 578 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: like it's easy to hold, I think this phone is 579 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: actually an early winner. It's just the price point is 580 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: going to turn off so many people. 581 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 5: But then again, the price point turns off a lot 582 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: of people from the Galaxy Fold, you know. So I 583 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: think I think it's it's more it's harder to you know, 584 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: to accept that price when you know it's a pixel, right. 585 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: I think that's the problem. I think we're conditioned to 586 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 5: take whatever pricing Apple and Samsung gives us, and I 587 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: think this is something we should revisit because Google has 588 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 5: to make money. They can't just be completely losing money, 589 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: although I'm pretty sure they are not making money on this, 590 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: at least not much. I have used that Apple Find 591 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: and End two that has the same form factor as 592 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: the pixel and I tell you it's a much better 593 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: form factor than the Z fold from Samsung. So I'm 594 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: very excited about the pixel fold having this new form 595 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 5: factor because I think for some you know, everybody's got 596 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: a different thing. Some people will prefer the fold, no doubt, 597 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: but for me, this is a better form factor for sure. 598 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: All right, Miriam Jouir of the Mobile Tech Podcast, how 599 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: can folks follow you online? 600 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Simple? 601 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: The podcast leaves at Mobile tech podcast dot com and 602 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 5: we're on all the major platforms, so your podcast needs 603 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: just look for it. 604 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: It's called the. 605 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: Mobile Tech Podcast. And then of course you can find 606 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: me on Twitter at tank Girl, like the comic book character, 607 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 5: but you drop all the vowels, who ends up being 608 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: t NK g R L. And that's also my Instagram 609 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 5: if you want to see pretty pictures of phones and 610 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: cars and things I reviewed. 611 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: Awesome, You're always somewhere. Thanks so much for joining me today. 612 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: Miriam Duir of the Mobile Tech podcast. Coming up more 613 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: of your calls at Triple eight rich one oh one. 614 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 615 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: zero one. 616 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. 617 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: About a new Chrome update error attack. You gotta watch 618 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: out for this one. It can fool anyone. You're listening 619 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: to Rich DeMuro here on rich on Techy. Welcome back 620 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: to rich on tech Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, 621 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: talking technology. 622 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: At triple eight rich one oh one. 623 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight eight two four one zero one. 624 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: You can also email hello at richon tech dot TV. 625 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Tom did just that, he said, I'm an executive level 626 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: IT leader, typically a chief information officer. My recruiter resources 627 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: are lacking contacts who can take my background and old 628 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: resume and overhaul it so it's great and scores high 629 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: when application tracking systems ATS evaluate it. That's sort of 630 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: those automated systems. 631 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm hoping you know someone. 632 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: Or a tool that can help me overhaul my resume asap. 633 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: Thoughts. 634 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Uh so, Tom, I think uh a service I did 635 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: a story with the guy who started the latterers dot com, 636 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: which is like a job search website, and he's got 637 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: a service called Leaked Resumes l E E t resumes 638 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: dot com. And I know this sounds kind of weird, 639 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: but they will help you write your resume for free. 640 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: I know it's so wild. There's not even a way 641 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: to pay. But here's what they do. So they will, 642 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, you give them your old resume, you answer 643 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: a couple questions, they rewrite your resume, and of course 644 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: it's all driven for these, like you said, these ats 645 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: system these application tracking systems. And then if you like 646 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: your resume, you tip your writer. And that's how it works. 647 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: They say the average tip is forty dollars. And you 648 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: know in the facts on the website it says, you 649 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: know what's the catch and it says, basically, if you 650 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: take your how much you make, let's see here what's 651 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: the hidden cost. So if you like your resume, we 652 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: recommend tipping your writer. Your salary in thousands divided by two, 653 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: So for instance, if you make eighty thousand dollars a year, 654 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: we recommend a forty dollars tip. So in addition, we'll 655 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: make introductions to job boards that can provide jobs with 656 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: titles you're looking for. So that's that's it. Lead Resumes 657 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: L E. E. Tmes dot com is the website. 658 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: Check it out. 659 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: I have not personally used this because I have not 660 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: written a resume in a long time, and I'm sure chat, 661 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: GPT and all these things can help you write it, 662 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: but it's kind of nice to have a human actually 663 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: help you write a resume, because it's just you need 664 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: that human touch every once in a while. A new 665 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: Chrome update error attack. I got to tell you about 666 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: this one because I'm looking at my Chrome right now 667 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: on my computer and it says update in the upper 668 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: right hand corner. And the way that Chrome updates is 669 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: it downloads the software in the background, the update to 670 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: the to the Chrome web browser, and then it gives 671 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: you this little message that says update, and then you 672 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: just relaunch Chrome to update it. It's very simple process. 673 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: It's very easy. Well well, well, of course, the scam 674 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: artists have figured out a way to socially engineer the 675 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Chrome updates. And here's what happens. This is according to 676 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: trend Micro, the new attack campaign distributes malware by posing 677 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: as a Chrome update error message. It started a couple 678 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: of months ago and it's impacting a lot of people. 679 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: The message displayed reads update exception and error occurred in 680 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Chrome Automatic update. And you say, oh, interesting, Okay, I 681 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: know Chrome updates automatically, but there's an error. I better 682 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: spring into action. It says, please update, Please install the 683 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: update package manually later or wait for the next automatic update. 684 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: And then a link is provided at the bottom of 685 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: this fake error message that takes the user to a 686 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: what's misrepresented as a link that will help you do 687 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: a Chrome manual update, But that link downloads file that 688 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: will put malware on your system that might degrade your performance, 689 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: but it can also potentially compromise your sensitive information potentially 690 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: the way that you log into websites. Now this is 691 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: installed on your computer. Now here's what's so brilliant about 692 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: this campaign, and this is what all of these socially 693 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: engineered phishing attacks, smishing attacks, all these little scams that 694 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: are going around, they all play to something that is 695 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: somewhat true. We know that if we use Chrome, it 696 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: needs to update every once in a while, and typically 697 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: it works just fine. It's a very simple process. But 698 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: this one is a little error message that says, oh, 699 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: something went wrong with the automatic update. Here, manually do it, 700 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: and you don't want to be unprotected on your computer, 701 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: so you go ahead and do it. 702 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: So why this is. 703 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: So effective is because it's it looks routine, it looks 704 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: like it's innocent. There's no big threat window. It doesn't 705 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: blank red like some of these ransomware attacks. It just says, hey, 706 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: your update failed. Here, go ahead and install it. And 707 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: then there you go. You install it and it really 708 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: messes up your computer. So the reality is we can 709 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: never be off our guard when it comes to any 710 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: sort of thing that we are doing on our computer, 711 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: whether we. 712 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: Are installing software. 713 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Don't, like I say, do not just go through those 714 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: whenever you're installing something. Don't just go through the motions 715 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: of pressing go, go, go, go go, because that will 716 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: get you into trouble. That will be a major problem. 717 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: Don't do it. That's that's the issue that I talk about, 718 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: because you just it's not good. 719 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: So again, if you're looking at Chrome and you see 720 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: this thing, just be sure you're on guard all right. 721 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: Phone number by the way, triple. 722 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four 723 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one I'll get to 724 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: some of your calls in just a moment here, But 725 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: first I watched this this Apple movie. 726 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 2: It's called Ghosted. You know, it's funny. 727 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: With all the reviews and ratings and things out there, 728 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: it's it's very tricky because you want to watch something 729 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: that's highly reviewed, highly regarded, highly rated, and sometimes you 730 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: just want something that's fun. So every time I opened 731 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: up Apple TV Plus on my computer or on my TV, 732 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: I would see this ad for a movie called Ghosted. 733 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: And I never heard of it. I never knew what 734 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: it was. 735 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: It just looks like an action kind of you know, 736 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: romantic action movie, whatever that means. And so I was like, oh, 737 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: this looks interesting. Of course, all the app all the 738 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: reviews for it are not very good, but I'm like, 739 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: I'll give it a try because it just looked like 740 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: something I want something that was kind of like no 741 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: brainer movie. 742 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: Right, Well, this is an Apple show. So this is 743 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: an Apple movie. 744 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: And every time you watch something on Apple TV plus, 745 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: any of the original programming from Apple. 746 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: It features a heavy dose of Apple products. 747 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: I mean they just give these producers like here, take 748 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: an iPad, take a an iMac, take a take ten iPhones, 749 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: everything happens with these Apple products in these Apple movies, 750 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: which is kind of distracting, but I get it. It's synergy. 751 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: It's like if someone on an Amazon movie was shopping 752 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: on you know. 753 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: Best buy dot com. It wouldn't really wouldn't feel right. 754 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, anyway, every Apple movie is an ad for all 755 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: things Apple, except when it's not in their favor. And 756 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: on this Ghosted movie, what do they use for the 757 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: tracking device? It's a tile, It's not an air tag, 758 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to seem like their products were 759 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: being put in a bad light. So I just thought 760 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: that was really funny. So if you watch the movie Ghosted, 761 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: I recommend it. I thought it was pretty good. But 762 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: just notice that. Notice that little quirk. Why didn't they 763 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: use an air tag? Didn't fall in Apple's favor. You're 764 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. More of your calls up 765 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: next at Triple eight. 766 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: Rich one O one. 767 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 768 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: technology with you at Triple eight rich one on one. 769 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 770 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: one zero one. The show coming to you today from Austin, Texas, 771 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: site of the iHeart Country Fest, which I will be attending. 772 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for that. Also excited for barbecue. You 773 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: can't have enough barbecue when you're here, that's for sure. 774 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: The only question is what kind of sauce you want 775 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: on it? 776 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. 777 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into like a big barbecue debate. 778 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: I know there's like dry I mean, barbecue people are 779 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: very very serious about their craft, and I don't tend. 780 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: To be a barbecue expert. 781 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: All I know is that I will eat the brisket 782 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: with some sort of barbecue sauce slathered on it, and 783 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: I will be a very happy person. All right, enough 784 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: about me, Let's go to Pat in Laguna Hills. Pat, 785 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. 786 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: Pat? Are you there? Pat? And Laguna Hills? 787 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I can't hear you, Pat, but okay, maybe we'll 788 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: get you on in a second. Here, let's talk while 789 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: we're waiting for Pat. Oh, there you are, Hello, Pat, Welcome. 790 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. 791 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're you know there's the show is if 792 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: you if you knew the technology behind this show, it's 793 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: quite impressive. We've got people in all corners of the 794 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: US today. We've got Kim up in near San Francisco. 795 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: We've got Bobo producing the show in Los Angeles, and 796 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: we've got myself sitting in Austin. And then somehow, you know, 797 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: the show goes up to a satellite somewhere it comes 798 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: back down through the road. 799 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, because you're in auction. Yeah, I imagine. 800 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: We'll believe it on Texas. What's up? 801 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 802 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 4: Okay. I have a Chromebook since twenty fifteen. I bought 803 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 4: another one last year because I have one upstairs and 804 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 4: one downstairs. I want to give my twenty fifteen Chromebook 805 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: to a friend to practice on and in buying a 806 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 4: new one. I see this. There's two hard drives, an 807 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 4: SSD and an eMMC if in fact, that is a 808 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 4: hard drive e m MC. And I do banking on 809 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 4: this CHLME book, and I prefer the chrome book only 810 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: because I think it's safer with all the updates. Yes, 811 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 4: and I only use the one that's updated, not the 812 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 4: other one for banking so or paying bills and stuff. 813 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 4: So that's that's my question. I don't know what to. 814 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Buy now, Okay, Well, good question. I like that you're 815 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: thinking about safety and security with this device, and I 816 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: would agree that it is a safe device, because there's 817 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: not I don't think there's any viruses for a chromebook 818 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: at this point, So I mean, you could still get 819 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: caught into phishing emails and all that stuff. So you 820 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: still have to be on cars. 821 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 4: And thank you for what you said before about I 822 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: didn't know about the era, Thank you very much. 823 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, these people are tricky. They will figure out 824 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: ways of I mean a lot of these ninety nine 825 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: percent of the attacks that I hear about are either 826 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: your password you didn't have two factor authentication, or you 827 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: hand over your password with some sort of social engineering 828 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: attack where you're logging into a website that looks legitimate 829 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: and you just don't realize anyway, onto these chromebooks. So, okay, 830 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: there's two different things you're talking about here, eMMC and 831 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: also SSD. So these are in fact they are a 832 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: hard drive in a colloquial term like it is a 833 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: storage device. But these are both sort of solid state 834 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: flash you know, they're both solid state drives. There's no 835 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: moving parts on these. eMMC is a type of flash memory, 836 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: whereas an SSD is a solid state drive. It's also memory, 837 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: but these things don't move, not like the old hard 838 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: drives that's spun right. eMMC is going to be a 839 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: little bit slower, but it's going to be a little 840 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: bit cheaper, And there's also some size limitations there, so 841 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: you may not get a drive that's as big, whereas 842 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: SSD is kind of like you know, it's a much 843 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: higher end technology that is in much higher end devices. 844 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: So if you're comparing these two chromebooks, I'm guessing that 845 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: the SSD is more expensive. 846 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: Is that true? 847 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: But is one more secure than the other? That's really 848 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 4: what I want to know. 849 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think that one is more secure than 850 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: the other because at the end of the day, these 851 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: are just storing your data, and so you know, when 852 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: it comes to storing data, that's pretty much going to 853 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: function in the same way. So I don't think you're 854 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: gonna have a problem with this with the security of 855 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: these two devices. I think it's really comes down to 856 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: what you want out of a price and what you 857 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: want out of the performance. So I think that the 858 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: SSD overall is going to be a better choice. If 859 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: you have the money and it's in your budget and 860 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: you're comparing two things, the SSD I think is going. 861 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: To be better. But if you're just not really caring. 862 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: You just want this thing to log onto your bank 863 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: account and pay your bills and all that kind of stuff. 864 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: In the standard eMMC, it's going to be just fine. 865 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: I don't think that one is more secure than the other. 866 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 4: Okay, And what about using the Chrome browser? Should I 867 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 4: use a different browser? 868 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: No? 869 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: I think the Chrome browser is a great browser to use. 870 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: Keep it up to date, just keep away from those 871 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: issues that I was talking about. And also when it 872 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: comes to the extensions, if you're installing extensions on the 873 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: Chrome browser, that's you know, those are the potential for 874 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, leaking information or putting. 875 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 2: Something on there. 876 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 4: Meaning what extension. 877 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: Extensions are little browser add ons that you can get 878 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: that kind of help your browser do different things. For instance, 879 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: I have one that will help me print a page 880 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: or save something to the kindle. 881 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 4: I don't use them every time I do a banking transaction. 882 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 4: I get out of it and shut it down and 883 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 4: come back. Okay, that's how secure and the other very skeptical. 884 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: The other thing that I would recommend when it comes 885 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: to doing the banking on the computer is I always 886 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: try to keep that limited to at home or on 887 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: a simular connection if you're out of that. So I 888 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that on like a public Wi Fi connection. 889 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of my rule of thumb with it. 890 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 4: Definitely not. And I just have one little question, what 891 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: about a tablet? Is banking secure on a tablet since 892 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 4: you're using a different you're using a cell uh yes, 893 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 4: and a Wi Fi you're using the cell cell thing, right. 894 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: Well, it depends, I mean yeah on the table Well, 895 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: on the tablet, you can use a hot spot or 896 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: you can use Wi Fi, depending on where you are. 897 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're at your house, you might just 898 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: use Wi Fi, but you can. You know a lot 899 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: of people when they're out and about, they're just connecting 900 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: their tablet to their phone. I think that's that's very 901 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: secure as well. Again number one, I mean we have 902 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: we have millions and millions of people that are doing 903 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: their online banking on a daily basis, and so these 904 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: banks have gotten really good at trying to keep people secure. 905 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: I think the online banking is not the the insecure part. 906 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: It's really these money apps that are that are leaking 907 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: money because people get requests and they send money to 908 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: someone that's not the right person or the right phone number. 909 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: So I think in that case, you need to be 910 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: really careful with with sending money. 911 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 4: To connect those too. I don't use zill and I 912 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: don't I might do them though, I don't know. I 913 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 4: have to research. But Zell is out. 914 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 915 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: I used to really like zel and I I came 916 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: to not like it as much because the problem with 917 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: Zell is it's a one way street. So if there's 918 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: a problem, it's these banks have really shown over and 919 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: over that they're not really interested in getting your money 920 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: back to you if you send it to the wrong person, 921 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: or if there's a problem or if you you know, 922 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: if you get some sort of scam attack and you 923 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: send money to someone that you shouldn't have and you 924 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: realize that it's it's really tough to get that money back. 925 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: With VENMO, I feel like there's a little bit more 926 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: of a there's a little bit more of a barrier, 927 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: almost like using a credit card versus a debit card. 928 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 4: Agreed, Okay, all right, I I totally agree with you. Then, 929 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 4: so uh so, Yeah, I still don't want to send 930 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: big amounts of money through them all. 931 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 6: I still write checks and send. 932 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 4: Them credit return, receive credit. 933 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 934 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: Smart, Well, Pat, you sound You sound like the perfect 935 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: listener for the rich On Tech Radio show because you 936 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: said you agree with everything I said, so I like that. 937 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: Thumbs up to you, Pat, Thanks so much for listening 938 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: today in Laguna Hills. Coming up, we've got a lot 939 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: more to talk about. Apple is bringing Final Cut Pro 940 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: and Logic Pro to the iPad, and later on. 941 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about projects Starline. 942 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: This is Google's version of Zoom, but in a holographic way. 943 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 2: I call it holographic. 944 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's the exact technology they're using, 945 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: but we've got Sherylyn Low from ngadget. She actually experienced 946 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: this up at Google Io and she's going to talk 947 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: to us about that as well, so stay tuned for that. 948 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: But I wanted to mention this real quick before we 949 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: go to break Peloton recalling two million of its exercise bikes. 950 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: This company cannot catch a pass. They just really can't. 951 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: So this Peloton bike, if you have one model PLO 952 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: one that's pretty much the original one, the bike's seat 953 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: post assembly can break during use, posing fall and injury hazards. 954 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 955 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Think you're on a bike seat and you're pedaling along, 956 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: and if this thing has a problem. Yeah, you don't 957 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: want to be on that bike seat when this happens. 958 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: So they've got a repair as an issue to help 959 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: you get that fixed. Recall two point two million of 960 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: these Pelotons and so far they say consumers should immediately 961 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: stop using the exercise bikes and contact Peloton for a 962 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: free repair. They'll give you a new seat post that 963 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: can be self installed, and thirty five reports of the 964 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: seat post breaking and detaching from the bike during use, 965 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: thirteen reports of injuries, including a fractured wrist, lacerations and 966 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: bruises due to falling from the bike. These were sold 967 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: from January twenty eighteen to May twenty twenty three, pretty 968 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: much the entire time during the pandemic. They were sold 969 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: through Peloton, Amazon, and Dick Sporting Goods nationwide for about 970 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred dollars. Ah, this is not good for Peloton 971 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: because we've seen, you know, Peloton was was flying high 972 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: during the pandemic and then after the pandemic things didn't 973 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: go so well for them. And I still love Peloton, 974 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but if you got one of 975 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: these bikes, definitely check to make sure if your model 976 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: number pl zero one and you've been using this thing. 977 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: You want to get this free repair because I'm know 978 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: about you. I don't want to be on a bike 979 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: seat and have that thing break and there's a bar 980 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: there that can really hurt you. So my wife and 981 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: I were debating this last night. She said, well, only 982 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: thirty five people. I said, do you want to be 983 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: one of those thirty five people that got hurt on 984 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: this thing? 985 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 986 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: All right, more of your calls a triple eight rich 987 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to two 988 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: four one zero one. You are listening to rich on 989 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: Tech pull in. Welcome back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro. 990 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 4: Here. 991 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: You can find me online at richon Tech dot tv. 992 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: You can find me on all the social media networks 993 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. I posted a video this week 994 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: on my Instagram, actually a couple a couple of videos 995 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: this week on my Instagram. First is this little flick 996 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: flick smart button. This was really cool testing this thing out. 997 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: And it's a little smart button that you can program 998 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: to do a whole bunch of different things. So think 999 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: of it as like a almost like a light switch, 1000 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: but it's a smart button, so you can make it 1001 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: turn on and off lights. 1002 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 2: You can make it ring your phone. 1003 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: You can make it play your sons, play a special playlist, whatever, 1004 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: all by programming it through your phone. I also posted 1005 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: the automated pancake maker at my hotel up in San Francisco. 1006 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: I never saw this before, and I thought it was 1007 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: so neat. You just press a button and it pops 1008 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: out too fresh pancakes that it kind of makes on 1009 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: a griddle that's inside this little robotic mechanism, So you 1010 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: can watch that on my Instagram. And then I got 1011 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: this security tracker from u fee that's the size of 1012 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: a credit card, so it's basically an air tag but 1013 00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: the size of a credit card. 1014 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 2: You can it in your wallet. 1015 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: I have another one from Chippolo already in use, but 1016 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: this was on sale on Amazon for sixteen ninety nine, 1017 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: and I get so many questions about these things. I 1018 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: ordered it came the next day. It's very very. 1019 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 2: Simple when I like about it. 1020 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: It uses the Apple Find My network, so you can 1021 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: find this thing on a map pretty much anywhere in 1022 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: the world because it uses all the other iPhone devices 1023 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: to locate it, so you can find those all on 1024 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: my Instagram at Richon Tech, and I got a lot 1025 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: of questions about the trackers because people are saying, Hey, Rich, 1026 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, I want a tracker for Android. My advice 1027 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: in the Android tracker situation is just to wait. Because Google, 1028 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week or the week before. 1029 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: Google and Apple are working together to come up with 1030 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: a common framework. 1031 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 2: So very soon there is going to be a whole bunch. 1032 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: Of air tag style devices on the market that will 1033 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: work with both iPhone and Android much better than they 1034 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 1: do right now. Google at their annual event, the Io Event, 1035 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: announced that they're going to make the find My network 1036 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: use all of the Android phones to help you look 1037 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: devices from a wide variety of manufacturers, so Samsung, Tile, Chipolo, 1038 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: so you have the air tag for the iPhone. That's 1039 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: been about a couple of years now. Now everyone's going 1040 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: to have access to this same technology. So that's really 1041 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,919 Speaker 1: really cool. Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight 1042 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: eight seven four two four to one zero one. Ron 1043 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: is in Arizona. 1044 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 2: Ron. You're on with Rich. 1045 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 7: Hey, Rich, can you hear me? 1046 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 2: I can hear you? What's up? 1047 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 7: Our church has Wi Fi right now, but it's sketchy 1048 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 7: in some parts of the church. We have basically, you know, 1049 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 7: one router and then they they use some of those extenders. 1050 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,479 Speaker 7: And I have a Mesh network. I have a Mesh 1051 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 7: network at home and it works really well to our house. 1052 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 7: Our house is not real big though, it's about nineteen 1053 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 7: hundred square feet. So I'm wondering the size of the building. 1054 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 7: That foundation size of our church building is about thirteen 1055 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 7: thousand square feet. Can you take you know, just your 1056 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 7: standard Mesh network like a Google or something, and just 1057 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 7: add more modules to it to extend me because most 1058 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 7: of the time they talk about covering you know, forty 1059 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 7: five hundred, five thousand square feet something like that. 1060 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean typically with something that big, you'd want 1061 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: more of a corporate you know, more of a professional solution. 1062 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: This may be somewhere in the middle. So if you go, 1063 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: which one do you have at home? Which which system? 1064 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 5: The Google? 1065 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 4: Oh? 1066 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 2: You have the Google? Okay, So you know, it's interesting. 1067 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you look at like 1068 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: euro which is kind of like the they kind of 1069 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: started this whole thing with the mesh networking systems for 1070 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: the home. You know, this might have been going on 1071 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: in the corporate kind of world for much longer. But 1072 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: if you look on Euro's website, you know, because I've 1073 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: got euro and I was wondering, like how many of 1074 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 1: these things can you add? 1075 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 2: You know, just how large? 1076 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: This says that you can add as many beacons or 1077 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: euros to your house as you'd like. Now they always 1078 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: say home, so they don't ever mention that this is 1079 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: for corporate now, you know, I think you can use 1080 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: it at a church if it's just something you want 1081 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: to try. The good news is this is all sort 1082 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: of off the shelf. You can buy it, you can 1083 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: set it up, and if it works, that's great. You know, 1084 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: some homes are probably I don't know about thirteen thousand 1085 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: square feet, but I'm you know, I'm sure there's some 1086 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: pretty big homes that have you know, these mesh networks 1087 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: in them and it works. I think the problem with 1088 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: the church is that it, you know, the what's the foundation, 1089 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: Like what's the you know, is it a lot of 1090 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: concrete and brick and stone and things like that. 1091 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 7: We've got one really large room where the services take place, 1092 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 7: and then we have a couple of like classrooms for 1093 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 7: the Sunday school, and then there's a an upstairs balcony 1094 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 7: where the sound equipment is and the you know, the 1095 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 7: computer for running the slide during the service and stuff 1096 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 7: like that, So we'd really like to reach all of 1097 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 7: those areas fairly well. So I just kind of walked 1098 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 7: off the foundation just to see, well, how big, how 1099 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 7: big is the building itself, not just the total square 1100 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 7: footage like a realtor would estimate it right, right, And 1101 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 7: that's where I came up with that thirteen thousand. 1102 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: Well I would recommend I mean, look you can you 1103 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: can kind of investigate the euro situation and see. I 1104 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: don't know if I would use Google because that's a 1105 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: much more consumer device. Ero kind of is in the 1106 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: middle there. They do a lot of like pro stuff 1107 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: as well. But I would also look at something like Ubiquity. 1108 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: Have you heard of that? 1109 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 7: The name sounds familiar, so that. 1110 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: Is sort of a it's more of a prosumer kind 1111 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: of model. And I'm looking on their website for the 1112 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: different devices that they have, and it seems like it 1113 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: would be much more suited. And it's not that expensive, so, 1114 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, these devices are anywhere from one hundred dollars 1115 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: to two hundred and seventy nine dollars for each device, 1116 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: depending on which one you want. So they've got a 1117 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: light a long range of professional and enterprise and then 1118 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: the mesh hub. So I think that that's probably something 1119 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: to look at, and it's going to give you more 1120 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: a professional installation than something like an euro which is 1121 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: really meant for the home. This will give you some 1122 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: enterprise grade access tools and things, especially when you have 1123 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people using it, including visitors, it might 1124 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: give you more of the tools that you need to 1125 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: manage that. So that's at UI dot Com. I would 1126 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: check that out. Of course, the big one that comes 1127 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: to mind is a Ruba networks that is a much 1128 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: more corporate industrial solution as well. So I would check 1129 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: those two things out. And Ron great question. I know 1130 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: we've become so accustomed to these mesh networks. We need 1131 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: them everywhere, all right. Coming up, we're going to talk 1132 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: to Sherlyn Lowe about projects Starline, Google's new video chat 1133 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,479 Speaker 1: that is just wild. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1134 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 1135 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: technology with you at triple eight rich one oh one 1136 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1137 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: You can also email me hello at rich on Tech 1138 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: dot tv. Maybe a little shy on the phone and 1139 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,800 Speaker 1: you'd rather email, or maybe it's just something that's easier 1140 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: to email than call, but either way, Triple eight Rich 1141 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: one on one or Hello at Rich on tech dot TV. 1142 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: So there's this really cool demo up at Google Io 1143 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: that I did not get to do. 1144 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 2: But it's Project star Line. 1145 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: So this is a video conferencing sort of I don't 1146 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: know what you call it, like contraption that Google has 1147 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: come up with that makes it look like the person 1148 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: is sitting in front of you and you can talk 1149 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: to them. So I'll just bring on Sharlen Lowe from 1150 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: n Gadget. She actually got to experience this. Charlyn, Welcome 1151 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: to the show. 1152 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 8: Hey, rich thanks for having me. 1153 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: Okay, so can you explain Project Starline better than I can, 1154 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: because you got to try this out and I just 1155 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's holographic video conferencing, like this stuff you 1156 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: imagine would be around when I was a kid, Like, 1157 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, talking face to face to someone that's not 1158 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: really there is that kind of it's accurate. 1159 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 8: You're basically sitting in front of what's really big TV, 1160 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 8: like a forty ish inch TV, but instead of a 1161 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 8: regular screen is a light field display and that allows 1162 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 8: the sort of holographic projection to up here like a 1163 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 8: person is really there in three D in front of you. 1164 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 8: They're protruding out of the screen kind of Oh. 1165 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: So it is Okay, I've been saying this is holographic. 1166 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: It is actually holographic. Okay, cool, all right, so I 1167 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: got something right. So you wrote all about this, uh 1168 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 1: in your experience with it, So take me from start 1169 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: to finish. 1170 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: You walk in here in what happens? 1171 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I walked. These are a hush hush displays. Okay, 1172 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 8: they're not letting us teak photos or videos because it's 1173 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 8: hard to capture on camera, so we're gonna have to 1174 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 8: verbally describe it as best as we can. You walk into 1175 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 8: a room. There's this long office table or desk in 1176 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 8: front of the setup, the prototype. The news at schole 1177 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 8: i OWE this year is that there's newer prototypes. 1178 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 6: Right. 1179 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 8: Project styling was first and down about two years ago, 1180 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 8: and since then the prototypes have gone from requiring an 1181 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 8: entire room of space to being somewhat portable. I mean 1182 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 8: the take up more like a whiteboard amount of the 1183 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 8: space now. So I went in through my friend the chair, 1184 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 8: the office chair in front of the table and then 1185 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 8: the other person on the other side of the call, 1186 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 8: who themselves is sitting in front of another Project Starline prototype, 1187 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 8: steps into frame. And when they're sitting down and I'm saying, now, 1188 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 8: we're both kind of like facing the screen dead on. 1189 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 8: There's no real sense that this is anything extra special. 1190 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 8: They look life size, They're like, you know, not like 1191 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 8: a little laptop size of a video call. But without 1192 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 8: kind of looking around, you don't get the sense that 1193 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 8: this is protruding. But everything changed when this person, the 1194 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 8: Google executive on the other side of the call, picked 1195 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 8: up an apple on his end and kind of reached 1196 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 8: it through the screen in front of his face. It 1197 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 8: looked like it was coming right at me. It looked 1198 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 8: like I could grab it from his hand, because that's 1199 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 8: really what you felt, the spatial distance kind of change. 1200 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 8: And that's what's really different with Project Starline as opposed 1201 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 8: to your typical video conference is the holographic thing. This 1202 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 8: is supposed uh, more realistic, more in person experience way 1203 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 8: of communicating. It's just really different. We tried other things tough, 1204 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 8: We tried high fiving, we tried fist bumping, and you know, again, 1205 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 8: this is Overcaul, He's not actually there. So I didn't 1206 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 8: actually grab his fist or touch his palm or whatever, 1207 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 8: but it felt like I could. I actually made virtual contact, 1208 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 8: my real palm sort of overlaid on top of his 1209 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 8: his virtual one, if that make sense. 1210 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna I was wondering about that, like 1211 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: when you put the apple out, like, did you go 1212 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: to reach for it and what hit him? Does it 1213 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: just feels like there's nothing there? Like does it does 1214 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: it break up the image? 1215 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 2: Like what is? 1216 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1217 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1218 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 8: So when I when I went to grab it, and 1219 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 8: when you know, he hadn't outstretched his uh hand that 1220 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 8: far yet, I just was kind of grabbing it and 1221 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 8: it wasn't The image wasn't breaking at all. What was 1222 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 8: happening was uh as you wouldn't realize when you cover something, 1223 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 8: it kind of like you block it from your vision, right, 1224 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 8: and it was happening here except when my hand wasn't 1225 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 8: grabbing anything with such a space. So it's kind of strange. 1226 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 8: I think my brain didn't really process it, right. I 1227 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 8: will say that when he the caller, did outstretched his 1228 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 8: hand a little further, it would start to hit boundaries 1229 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 8: and it would his face would term blue, like as 1230 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 8: if you were hitting an outer limit and it gained 1231 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 8: you Oh wow, yeah, that's sort of feel. And also 1232 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 8: when I when I sat in my seat and I 1233 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 8: would move my body from side to side to kind 1234 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 8: of like you know, see him from the profile and 1235 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 8: stuff like that to see if it was more three D. 1236 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 8: It wasn't. Indeed, more like a three D experience was 1237 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 8: protruding more, but you would get messages on screen that 1238 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 8: would tell you hate remain centered in the frame. Stop 1239 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 8: moving around your tea so much, because, uh, the experience 1240 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 8: is really tailored for a specific position because they're you know, 1241 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 8: a life of this way is you know, projecting all 1242 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 8: the themes to your eye, so it's kind of needing 1243 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 8: your perspective to be within a controllable area. 1244 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: We're talking with Sharlen Lowe, editor at n Gadget about 1245 01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Project Starline. This is Google's holographic video conferencing exproment, which 1246 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: they showed off at Google Io in a very private way. 1247 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: This was something that you kind of had to sign 1248 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: up for and it was a you know, it was 1249 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: an appointment only kind of thing. So what do you 1250 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: think is the implication of this. I imagine it's very expensive, 1251 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: it's very early technology. Google says that they've done several 1252 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: thousand hours of testing with this, but what do you 1253 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: think the impact of this is? Do we need this 1254 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: in our world? 1255 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1256 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 8: So what's happening too is alongside the new prototype, Google 1257 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 8: also announced that some of these new prototypes have been 1258 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 8: shared with exclusive access partners like T Mobile. We work 1259 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 8: in salesforce and they're trying to see, you know, gather 1260 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 8: real world feedback to see how these work. In what 1261 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 8: they're saying, are distributed a workforce or work workplaces. Right, So, 1262 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 8: I think the idea is that now that we're doing 1263 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 8: so much hybrid and remote work, that some sort of 1264 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 8: bridge between the video an alternative solution to the traditional 1265 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 8: video conferencing is necessary and their wholefully or they're thinking 1266 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 8: that this might provide them of that in person experience 1267 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 8: without really you know, short of teleporting, someone is giving 1268 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 8: you sort of that experience. My take though, I'm not 1269 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 8: quite sure. I think, yeah, sure, it felt like a 1270 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 8: person was kind of in front of me, only their 1271 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 8: top half though, And yes, you can get more non 1272 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 8: verbal cues from a person if you have you know, 1273 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 8: I was making direct eye contact with the person that 1274 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 8: felt like you know, every little smirk, every little frown, 1275 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 8: you could really tell because it's just so much more 1276 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 8: detail in this experience. I don't know that we're still 1277 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 8: going to be able to fully replace in person call 1278 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,959 Speaker 8: or in person in chat with this. It might be 1279 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 8: better than a laptop call by quite a lot. It 1280 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 8: never has been a substitute the real real thing, you know. 1281 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1282 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: I talked to someone else about this, and they said 1283 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: up at Google Io after they tested out, they said 1284 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: that it was like almost a little eerie to like 1285 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: look them in the eye, the other person, and so 1286 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: they had to look away at some point because it 1287 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: was like too much, it was too intense. 1288 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 8: I think I think that was the demo person. They think. 1289 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 8: They were really trying to hammer home the point that 1290 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 8: I can make eye contact with you, you don't have to, right, 1291 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 8: But there is an uncanny Valley sort of aspect to this, 1292 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 8: because during my demo there were a little, you know, 1293 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 8: a few glitches here and there, your typical tech support 1294 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 8: technical era stuff, right like if we were both talking 1295 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 8: at the same time, I could tell if you couldn't 1296 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 8: hear anything. 1297 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I was saying. 1298 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 8: And some of these issues can be talked up to 1299 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 8: the WI Fi at the event, which was very spotty. 1300 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 8: As you and I were both there, we know the 1301 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 8: Wi Fi struggled. And this to be clear, it is 1302 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 8: the cameras around the screen are gathering your data and 1303 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 8: then they're sending that information to the cloud, where it's 1304 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 8: then generating a three D model of you and the 1305 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 8: caller on the other side, and then beating that back 1306 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 8: down to your respective light field display. So it's a 1307 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 8: lot of bandis that's necessary, a lot of processing that's happening, 1308 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 8: So some hiccups are understandable at the moment, I understand that. 1309 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 8: You know, there's going to be some sort of feriness 1310 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 8: or uncanny valley going on, and I don't think that 1311 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 8: that's ever going to go away, really. 1312 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Do you think? Well? 1313 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, I mentioned a story earlier about 1314 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: how when I was sending my video back for editing 1315 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: back to Los Angeles, it was so slow. Like Google 1316 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: is known for really good Wi Fi, and this year, 1317 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but the Wi Fi was 1318 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: just really bad at the event that remember the first 1319 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: year they had like they had like one gigabit connections 1320 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: at like every seat. 1321 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 2: At one point. 1322 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you think we're gonna have something like 1323 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Project Starline in our homes at some point, and you 1324 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 1: could just I mean, as someone who lives far away 1325 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: from their family myself, like my parents live in New Jersey, 1326 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I live in LA it'd be really cool to just 1327 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: like hop into this Project star Line and chat with 1328 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: them on a Saturday. Do you think we would ever 1329 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: have this in our homes? 1330 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 8: I think one day. I think that that's Google's goal perhaps, 1331 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 8: but it is going to be a long way as 1332 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 8: the way. I think the over rich people will have 1333 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 8: them within the next three years, but regular your average 1334 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 8: people probably another I don't. 1335 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 5: I wouldn't. 1336 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 8: I wouldn't use the crime to do like a decade. 1337 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 8: And even then, you know, like it doesn't really take 1338 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 8: off because again, you don't if people want to be 1339 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 8: around other people, and this so far feels like a 1340 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 8: one person at a time experience, and you know, there's 1341 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 8: there's just something about social gatherings in person that technology 1342 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 8: can't fully replicate. 1343 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 9: You just can't. 1344 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: I agree, And I also mentioned that about Io, because 1345 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: half of it is just seeing the people that you 1346 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: see on Twitter, and it's like, you know, it's funny 1347 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: because even with the advent of social media, you feel 1348 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: like you know all of your friends and what they're 1349 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: up to. But even just spending ten minutes with someone 1350 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 1: in real life, you are caught up in a way 1351 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: that Instagram and Twitter and all these things can never 1352 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: catch you up. 1353 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 8: I agree absolutely, and I have so much fun at IO. 1354 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I think you and I met what for 1355 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 8: the first ish time there in person, and then you know, 1356 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 8: I got to see all my friends. I got to 1357 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 8: within like the said ten minutes, I met such a 1358 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 8: gamut of people at once without and getting to know 1359 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 8: them and getting the sense I pick up on vibes 1360 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 8: like to say, oh yeah, I. 1361 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: Have everyone you know absolutely. 1362 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Sherlin Low, deputy editor at n Gadget. How can folks 1363 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 1: follow you online? 1364 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1365 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 8: I am on Twitter still at c h e r 1366 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 8: l y n n l O W or my Instagram 1367 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 8: at c h r l i n N at t 1368 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 8: h e r e M. 1369 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me today. I love the qualification, the 1370 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: qualifier with Twitter. I'm still on Twitter, I know, so 1371 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: am I yeah for now till anything changes, all right, 1372 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. 1373 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 1374 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 7: Sherylyn, thanks for having me. 1375 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 6: Betthew Saturday all. 1376 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 2: Right, yes, you too. All right. 1377 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we are going to talk 1378 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: about Oh gosh, we have so much to talk about. 1379 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 2: Still speak, you know me? Speaking of Twitter. 1380 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Twitter's got a new CEO, Linda Jacharino. That's really all 1381 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: there is to mention about that. Linda came from NBC Universal. 1382 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: She was advertising chief there and now in a couple 1383 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: of weeks she will take over as CEO of Twitter. 1384 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,959 Speaker 2: We'll see what changes happened there. 1385 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: Coming up, I'll talk about Apple bringing Final Cut Pro 1386 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: to the iPad. 1387 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Finally, welcome back to Rich on Tech. 1388 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology, listening 1389 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: to some country music because the show is originating from Austin, 1390 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Texas this weekend. Yep, I'm here for a country fest. 1391 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: iHeart country fest. Triple eight Rich one oh one eight 1392 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1393 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: I've been to Austin many times for South by Southwest. 1394 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: This is the big music and interactive and what was 1395 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: it music, film and interactive. 1396 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,959 Speaker 2: I always went for the tech part. 1397 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: And they've launched a lot of apps here, a lot 1398 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: of a lot of big apps launched here. I believe 1399 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Twitter's square like a lot of these things originally started 1400 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: at south By Southwest where they showed them off to 1401 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the world. Let's go to Sam in Hemmett, California. Sam, 1402 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you're on with rich Sam? 1403 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 2: Are you there? 1404 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 6: Yes? 1405 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 9: I am, sir. Thanks for taking my call. 1406 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for calling in. What can I help you with? 1407 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 6: Okay? 1408 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 9: I have an old phone that I'm about ready to 1409 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 9: just get rid of, but there are some games on 1410 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 9: there that I would like to save the progress on. 1411 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,879 Speaker 9: They just cannot be attached to anything like Facebook or Twitter. 1412 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 9: I'm curious if I can if I put them onto 1413 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 9: a micro s D card, could I transfer them from 1414 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,520 Speaker 9: the old device to a new one? 1415 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Well potentially, so, I mean the way that I mean, 1416 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 1: you'd have to get all the data along with the game, 1417 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 1: right and can you do that? 1418 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 2: Are you sure you can? 1419 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: You can move the game data and like the actual 1420 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: they call it on Android and APK, but can you 1421 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: grab that along with the data? 1422 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 2: Do you know if you're able to do that? 1423 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 9: I'm not a real tip savvy person, and so the 1424 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 9: best I could do is just tell you a little 1425 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 9: bit about each of the phones. The old one that 1426 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 9: I want the data off of I use in much 1427 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 9: the same way a person would use a tablet computer 1428 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 9: and it is a Samsung Galaxy a ten E on 1429 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 9: a three G system, and I want to move it 1430 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 9: from and I want to move it to a Google 1431 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 9: Pixel that's on five G. 1432 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 2: Okay, And are you trying to what are you trying 1433 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 2: to do? Exactly? What's you know? Because you can you 1434 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 2: want to keep the game. 1435 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 9: From Yeah, I want to keep my games and the 1436 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 9: progress through those games, okay, and take them from the 1437 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 9: Samsung and put them into the Google Pixel. 1438 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Okay. So now number one, A lot of this depends. 1439 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: So if you you've tried to have you tried to 1440 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: install the game on the new phone and see if 1441 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: it picks up where you left. 1442 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 9: Off, Yes, and it won't do it. 1443 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 1444 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 1: I was wondering that because some games, you know, it 1445 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 1: depends on the game's If it's a game that's relying 1446 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 1: on a cloud sync, it's going to just pick up 1447 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,440 Speaker 1: where you left off. For instance, I've got the Pokemon 1448 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: all right. Sorry, the Paradot game installed on two phones 1449 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much synked between the two phones. But 1450 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: that's a newer game. So these obviously, since these are 1451 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: on an old three G phone, these are much older games. 1452 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,879 Speaker 1: I doubt that they have any sort of cloud sinking 1453 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: involved in these things. So I would say, try there's 1454 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: a there's an app. Gosh, I've used it so long ago, 1455 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it's still around, but it's like 1456 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 1: a backup app. There's a couple of them on the 1457 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Google Play Store. One of them is that I used 1458 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: to use as Titanium backup, and I'm just not sure 1459 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: it's been updated recently, because a lot of these things 1460 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: are so like you just don't need them anymore. 1461 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 2: But that's what I was. Yeah, the last time. 1462 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: This was updated, Oh gosh, this shows you how old 1463 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 1: this thing is November twenty four, twenty nineteen. But there 1464 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 1: are some apps that will help you back up from 1465 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 1: Google Play or from one phone to another. So I 1466 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 1: would try one of those and see if you can 1467 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 1: just grab the you know, go into the app. It 1468 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: should give you a list of all of the different 1469 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: apps installed in that phone, and then you select the 1470 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: app that you want to transfer over. 1471 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 2: It will either upload it to. 1472 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: The cloud, or you can transfer it, like you said, 1473 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: to a little flash drive at the bottom of the 1474 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 1: phone and then plug it into the new phone and 1475 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: carry that over. 1476 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure if all that data is going 1477 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: to come over. 1478 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's you know, it really sort of 1479 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: depends on how that game is architected and figured out. 1480 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 5: Well. 1481 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 9: Among them is the Bejewel game series. 1482 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 2: M that's okay, yeah, what else are you playing there? 1483 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 9: There's Checkers, Solitaire, Mageong, yacht Ti. 1484 01:11:59,280 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1485 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 2: So it sounds like you have a whole bunch of 1486 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 2: these things. 1487 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,760 Speaker 1: So if if these if these games are linked to 1488 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Google Play, if you can go into the settings and 1489 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: link them to any sort of account, I think that 1490 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: they would transfer over something like Bejeweled, especially because that's 1491 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: a that's a very popular game. And these these whether 1492 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: you're on Android or Apple, they both have these sort 1493 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 1: of game center things. And if you ever launch a 1494 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,640 Speaker 1: game and it says like game center. 1495 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,799 Speaker 9: Okay, they're both. They're both Android phones. I prefer Android 1496 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 9: to Apple. Apple I think is more overrated than it 1497 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 9: really is. Okay, well that's to me, it's a better one. 1498 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: It's funny I've been using I went to the Google 1499 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: event this week and I kind of retook a look 1500 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: at the Google Pixel seven. So I've been using that 1501 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and the difference between these 1502 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: operating systems is so apparent. And the best way I 1503 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: can put it is this Apple really and Apple's great. 1504 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I think, look, there's Apple is a amazing A lot 1505 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: of people use Apple products and iPhones. It's it's kind 1506 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: of like a standard issue here in America. But everything 1507 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: on Apple sort of pushes you to use Apple stuff 1508 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 1: right the way that Apple wants you to do things. 1509 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: And I've noticed with Google just using the last couple 1510 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: of days again from a fresh start, by the way, 1511 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: that it really just gives you a lot of options 1512 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: on how to do things and it doesn't necessarily push 1513 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: you to one particular way of doing things. And so 1514 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 1: I can understand that some people may like that, and 1515 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, may like that approach a little bit better 1516 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 1: than the Apple approach. Apple stuff works, and it works 1517 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: really well, and it's very simple because of that. 1518 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 2: But a lot of times they. 1519 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Will just sort of push you towards their products, you know, 1520 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: whether it's Apple Maps, whether it's Safari, whether it's you know, 1521 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Apple Mail. People just use the default apps that are 1522 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: built into the phone, and you know, they may stray 1523 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: if they if they feel like they know something better 1524 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: or they know how to do it better, but otherwise 1525 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 1: they just kind of build it in. But Sam, to 1526 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: answer your question, I think that it's a matter of 1527 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: trying this download if you haven't downloaded this already. There's 1528 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: an app on Google called the Google Play Games app. 1529 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Install that on the old phone and the new phone, 1530 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: and that may help save some. 1531 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 2: Of your progress in these games. But that's that's what 1532 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 2: I would do. 1533 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: And you can try one of these backup utilities, like 1534 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,759 Speaker 1: a Titanium backup or some sort of backup and restore 1535 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: utility to see if that can get the game from 1536 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: one phone to another. 1537 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I haven't done that before. And 1538 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 2: most of the games that. 1539 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I've played are just sort of cloud based and pretty casual, 1540 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: so and I'm not a big gamer on these casual 1541 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 1: games to begin with, so that's not even something that 1542 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm totally doing all the time. But great question, Sam, 1543 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 1: And congrats on the new Pixel. That's a fantastic phone, 1544 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorites. All right, coming up, we'll talk 1545 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: about oh Apple bringing Final Cut Pro to the iPad, 1546 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: plus more of your calls at Triple eight rich one 1547 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: on one eight eight eight seven four to two four 1548 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 1: to one zero one three of rich On Tech. 1549 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 2: Come in your way. 1550 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking 1551 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: technology at Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 1552 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Coming 1553 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: to you today from Austin, Texas. Welcome to our number 1554 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: three of the show. I mentioned earlier in the show 1555 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,719 Speaker 1: that one of the cool things about the hotel room 1556 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm staying in is that it has a record player, 1557 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of neat. 1558 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: And they've got a little record not a. 1559 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 1: Store, but almost like a record library where you can 1560 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 1: check out some cool records, and they have a curator 1561 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: there that can help you pick out some stuff. So 1562 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: we did this, but I will tell you last night 1563 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,600 Speaker 1: it was raining. It was raining really hard here in Austin, Texas, 1564 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of dripping sounds outside the room. Well, 1565 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: there was sort of this clicking sound all night long, 1566 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: and at one point I thought it was the dripping 1567 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 1: of the rain outside. And at one point it just 1568 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: seemed way too like regular to be dripping of rain, 1569 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 1: and it just seemed to go on way too long, 1570 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 1: and it occurred to me that the record player was 1571 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,600 Speaker 1: still on, so I had you forget and it just 1572 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,719 Speaker 1: happened to me again, which is why I'm telling the story. 1573 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 2: The record player. 1574 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: When it's done playing the I guess the needle just 1575 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: goes to the middle and it just stays there and 1576 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: just like kind of clicks and just you know, I 1577 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: don't know anyway, So last night, in the middle of 1578 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: the night, I was like, Oh my gosh, this this 1579 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 1: record player has been on for hours, just kind of 1580 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: circling around and clicking and clicking and clicking. 1581 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 2: So I guess that's one. 1582 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: Of the uh analog technology a little bit different than 1583 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, the new digital options we have out there. 1584 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: So that threw me for a loop last night. But 1585 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm still all in on the record situation. I think 1586 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. 1587 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 2: Let's go to Rich in Carol Stream, Illinois. Rich. You're 1588 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 2: on with Rich. 1589 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 3: Rich. Thank you paying well. I really do appreciate your show. 1590 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:03,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 1591 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,719 Speaker 3: I've got a strange question. I wasn't trying to word 1592 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 3: it properly. I've got all my music files that you'll record, 1593 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 3: my CDs recorded. 1594 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 6: To my PC. 1595 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 3: I've got at least ten thousand to ten to eleven 1596 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,480 Speaker 3: thousand songs on my PC and that was the iPad. 1597 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 3: I mean the iPod is discontinued, I believe, or it's 1598 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 3: no longer and the use is there a because I'm wondering, 1599 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 3: is there a way for me to listen to my 1600 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 3: music without anything relying on my PC? Because to port 1601 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, to enjoy these songs on the go, like 1602 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 3: take them, you know, you know, take them as a portable. 1603 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 3: Is there like a replacement for an iPod that I 1604 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 3: could maybe perhaps consider transfer these files to the device 1605 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 3: of some sort. 1606 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh good question. Now what do you mean what kind 1607 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,680 Speaker 2: of device like your iPhone. 1608 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 3: Or what well I want to use or if. 1609 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,040 Speaker 2: You want to use the files that you have somewhere else. 1610 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the files on my PC, my Windows PC. 1611 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,879 Speaker 3: But I don't I just I don't have an iPhone. 1612 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 3: I just have my my my S twenty one Galaxy. 1613 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 2: But what about just loading them directly onto the phone? 1614 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 3: Like what ten thousand songs really don't I'm not really 1615 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 3: well versed in terms of I may tarms of what 1616 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 3: ten thousand songs can eat up a lot of memory 1617 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 3: on a on an Android phone. 1618 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean if you have an S twenty one, 1619 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: you know you've got a bunch of storage on there. 1620 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 1: You can put a subset of those songs. I mean, 1621 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: if each MP three is about you know, let's say 1622 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: it's three megabytes, four megabytes. If you got ten thousand, 1623 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 1: you want to put all ten thousand times four, that's 1624 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 1: forty thousand megabytes. You know, that's a couple gigs right there. 1625 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 1: That's not too bad. I mean, that's that's something that's 1626 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 1: that's doable. There are there were in the past. Google 1627 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: had a system where you could upload your songs into 1628 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 1: something like Google Music Manager I think it was called, 1629 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 1: and you could you could upload all of your songs 1630 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: into there and then you can play them from any device. 1631 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that that's around anymore. Yeah, it 1632 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: looks like it was. Uh, looks like it was discontinued. Yeah, Google. 1633 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, I think that was gone. H Google 1634 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 1: play music Cloud. Yeah, this is something that you know, 1635 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this article. It's like from ten years ago. 1636 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: That was back in the day where you could you 1637 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: could physically upload all of your music. The other thing 1638 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you could do is you could potentially maybe upload it 1639 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: something like Dropbox and then listen to it through there 1640 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: on the on a cloud player on your phone. I 1641 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: should know a better answer to this, because I feel 1642 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 1: like there's something that's simple that I'm just not thinking 1643 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 1: about right off the top of my head here. But 1644 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 1: I know this was something that was popular a couple 1645 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,679 Speaker 1: of years ago, but now, of course, with the advent 1646 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 1: of these streaming services, there's just not really a lot 1647 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: of other options. 1648 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 2: That are left. 1649 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would say I would just upload these 1650 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 1: to your phone and just have them on your phone 1651 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 1: and maybe make a couple playlists. 1652 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 2: Maybe don't do all ten thousand. I mean you could 1653 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 2: see it. 1654 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, go on their computer and see how much 1655 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 1: that those ten thousand songs are taking up on the 1656 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 1: hard drive, and then go to your Android phone, see 1657 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: how much storage you have, and then transfer, you know, 1658 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: a subset of them or all of them if you 1659 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 1: have enough storage. Now, the S twenty one, Does the 1660 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 1: S twenty one have an SD card slot or no? 1661 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember when they discontinued that. 1662 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,839 Speaker 3: I'll be yes, I haven't looked at I have to 1663 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:56,960 Speaker 3: go to verify that. 1664 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 1: No, I'm looking at an article and it's the twenty 1665 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: one was when they did away with it, So okay, Yeah, 1666 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,759 Speaker 1: some of the older Samsungs had the SD card slot, 1667 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: but the S twenty one did not. That's yeah, because 1668 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 1: I would say otherwise you could just put it on 1669 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 1: an SD card and just throw that into your phone. 1670 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 2: And now you've got all your music on there. 1671 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 3: I see. 1672 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm coming up with a lot of a lot of 1673 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: dead ends to this. What what kind of music? How 1674 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: did you amass this collection just through the years? 1675 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 3: I just you know, record you know, just uh copy 1676 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 3: my CD collections my PC over the years, and yeah, 1677 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 3: I just saved it over the years from my PC, 1678 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 3: one PC to another, and and some of my collective CDs. 1679 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 3: That's it. You'll be bigging from the nineteen eighties, mid 1680 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 3: nineteen eighties. So I've got to at least ten to 1681 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 3: eleven thousand songs by now, maybe a few donald. I 1682 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 3: don't really download it much material. Mostly it's just from 1683 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 3: the hard copy. 1684 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of these alternatives to these things, 1685 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 1: and I'm just not really finding a ton of things 1686 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that you can do. Now here's the thing. It's interesting 1687 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: because there is so it used to be that you 1688 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 1: could upload a bunch of songs into this Google you know, 1689 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,760 Speaker 1: this music manager, and I'm wondering if if Google still 1690 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 1: lets you do that with their YouTube music which they've 1691 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 1: they've now switched to, but I'm just not seeing the 1692 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 1: ability to do that. 1693 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 2: Oh wait, here we go, hold on, upload music, hold on, 1694 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 2: Oh we got it. Okay, So here's a solution. 1695 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 1: They did switch it over music dot YouTube dot com 1696 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,800 Speaker 1: and if you go to your profile on the upper 1697 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: right hand corner, it says upload music. So it looks 1698 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: like you can upload your music there and then use 1699 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the YouTube music player on your phone to play the 1700 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 1: songs that you own. So I would go to this 1701 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: music dot YouTube dot com and then sign in. And 1702 01:22:58,479 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you have to be paid or 1703 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 1: not this I am paid on this, so I do 1704 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 1: have a membership. I'm not sure if that matters or not. 1705 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,799 Speaker 1: But you can go and check out hit your profile 1706 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 1: on the upper right hand corner. It says upload music. 1707 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 1: Drag a couple of MP threes in there, just to 1708 01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 1: try it out, and then go to your phone, open 1709 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 1: up the YouTube music app and see if that lets 1710 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: you do it. But it seems like it's still there, 1711 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: at least on my end here, so that's actually pretty cool. 1712 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll definitely I'll play with that and see 1713 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:30,839 Speaker 3: if it works. Solfully. 1714 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so you got you got the directions down right. 1715 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: You go to music dot YouTube dot Com, go to 1716 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the upper right hand corner, tap your profile and it 1717 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 1: says upload music. Drag a couple of MP threes in there, 1718 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 1: get them uploaded. And then once you have them on there, 1719 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: open up the YouTube music app on your phone and 1720 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 1: it should have a section of your own music in 1721 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 1: your library, and press play and see what happens there. 1722 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 3: I'll give it a shut rich. Thank you so much 1723 01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 3: for your time. 1724 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate I've heard of Carol Stream Illinois 1725 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 1: so many times. What's what are they famous for? Was 1726 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 1: that like we're like Columbia like music? Like what was 1727 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,559 Speaker 1: What's in Carol Stream Illinois that I know of? 1728 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 2: Is that like a big customer service. 1729 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Uh, Billy Corgan went to high school and Carol Streams. 1730 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what I was thinking of, 1731 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: But I love this. I love the Smashing Pumpkins just 1732 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: as much as the next person. But I'm not sure 1733 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: that was what it was. 1734 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:32,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're a western suburb of Chicago. We're about Miles's Chicago. 1735 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just where I send all the all my 1736 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,679 Speaker 1: bills back in the day to Carroll's. 1737 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 3: That makes sense because there is a major post office 1738 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 3: about here, and uh, that's where a lot of bills 1739 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 3: are being sent and you know, distribute area to the 1740 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 3: local area. 1741 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 1: I sent many of my bills there back in the day. 1742 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,360 Speaker 1: All right, Rich, thanks so much for calling in today. 1743 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Uh, coming up more of your calls at 1744 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Triple A Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1745 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 1: four to four to one zero one. Lots more to 1746 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 1: talk about on the show. I'm gonna tell you about 1747 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 1: a major change that Lift is making if you like 1748 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 1: to take cheap rides with them. Plus, we've got the 1749 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: best anti virus program, so if you're wondering what the 1750 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: best anti virus program is, we'll talk about that as well. Plus, 1751 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 1: you can go to the website rich on tech dot 1752 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: tv if you want to see some of the stuff 1753 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: that I do for television. 1754 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 2: You can watch my. 1755 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 1: Stories there, and of course I post the podcast version 1756 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 1: of this show there. 1757 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,760 Speaker 2: Once it's done. You're listening to Rich on Tech. My 1758 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:31,639 Speaker 2: name is Rich Dumurro. 1759 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: Will have more of your calls coming up next and 1760 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk Zelda. It's all coming up right here. 1761 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,759 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here enjoying 1762 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: one of the artists that will be at the iHeart 1763 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:50,680 Speaker 1: Country Fest, Luke Brian, one of my wife's favorites. 1764 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 2: You know that she were at breakfast and she said 1765 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 2: that the thought of meeting Luke. 1766 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: Brian brought tier to her eyes, and I mean literally, 1767 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,640 Speaker 1: like this is someone that she absolutely loves. And I said, well, 1768 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen, But I don't know, 1769 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: do I just like step aside, like what's the what 1770 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: do I do? I don't know because I I tears 1771 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: to her eyes. Wow, that's uh, that's. 1772 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 2: A lot. 1773 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one oh one eighty eight seven four 1774 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. I've met a lot of 1775 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: people in my life, and I don't know if anyone's 1776 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,559 Speaker 1: ever brought tears to my eyes just the idea of 1777 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,400 Speaker 1: meeting them. But I'm in for something, that's for sure. 1778 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Apple is bringing Final Cut Pro to the iPad. This 1779 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 1: is very exciting for mobile creators. This is a brand 1780 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 1: new version of Final Cut Pro with a touch interface. 1781 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 1: So it's got this new tool that they call, uh, 1782 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 1: well it's nothing new. I mean, it's it's a new tool. 1783 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:52,599 Speaker 2: For final cut. 1784 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,839 Speaker 1: But the idea if it's not new it's a jog wheel, 1785 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 1: but it's digital, so that means you can, you know, 1786 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 1: since there's it's all touch on the editing, you know, 1787 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 1: this is a way to like kind of fine tune 1788 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 1: how you're editing things and editing clips. It's got a 1789 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 1: magnetic timeline. You can move clips around with just a 1790 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: tap of a finger. It's got multi touch. This is 1791 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,719 Speaker 1: the coolest feature though to me, because I've been trying. 1792 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how to do this 1793 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 1: years ago on the iPad. Use the pencil. It's a 1794 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 1: feature called live drawing, which lets you use the pencil, 1795 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,880 Speaker 1: the Apple pencil to draw graphics on your video. So 1796 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 1: let's say you're doing like one of those cool travel vlogs. 1797 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, you can write with the Apple pencil on 1798 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 1: the sky and then it will be animated exactly how 1799 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: you wrote it. Now, if you have terrible handwriting like myself, 1800 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't look very good. But if you have 1801 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,720 Speaker 1: nice handwriting, this is such a cool, unique way to 1802 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:48,520 Speaker 1: make some animations. 1803 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 2: And so that's one of the features. 1804 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 1: The other feature that they talk about is multiicam video, 1805 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 1: so they showed a demo where you can shoot multiicam 1806 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: video and just tap your finger to switch between. 1807 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 2: The cameras, which is really neat. 1808 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: It also takes advantage of the Apple Silicon, the really 1809 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 1: fast processors inside the new iPads. By the way, you 1810 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 1: need at least an Apple M one chip inside the 1811 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: iPad to use this, and really M two to get 1812 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: like the best use case scenario. But they also have 1813 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 1: this scene removal mask, so you know how you need 1814 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 1: a green screen to remove the background typically in something 1815 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: that you shoot, well you don't even need a green screen. 1816 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 1: You can literally just say remove the background, and this 1817 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: system is so smart that it will be able to 1818 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: figure out what the background is and remove it. That 1819 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 1: is really cool. There's also an autocrop feature that will 1820 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:47,680 Speaker 1: adjust your footage for vertical, square or other aspect ratios. 1821 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is really cool. It also has professional 1822 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,880 Speaker 1: soundtracks that automatically adjust to the length of a video, 1823 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,720 Speaker 1: and you can start a project on the iPad and 1824 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 1: then move it to Final cut pro on your computer 1825 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 1: to finish it. 1826 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 2: Now I get it. 1827 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 1: This is mostly for either creative professionals or mobile professionals 1828 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 1: or influencers, so not necessarily the average person that's going 1829 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 1: to be using this, but I think more will because 1830 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,600 Speaker 1: it's more accessible. A final cut on the desktop was 1831 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,559 Speaker 1: like a several hundred dollars program. This will be five 1832 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: dollars a month or fifty dollars for the year. And 1833 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that are asking, 1834 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,760 Speaker 1: are kind of complaining about the fact that this is 1835 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: now subscription and they don't like that. But the reality is, 1836 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,599 Speaker 1: I think that we've gotten so accustomed to subscriptions. Five 1837 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,880 Speaker 1: dollars a month, free trial for a month. I think 1838 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,719 Speaker 1: it's going to get a lot more people to try 1839 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 1: this out. Logic Pro is also coming to iPad, but 1840 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: since I don't really use that, I know it's for 1841 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 1: more audio editing. 1842 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 2: I just don't use that. 1843 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So if you're into that, you'll be excited for that 1844 01:29:52,160 --> 01:30:00,280 Speaker 1: as well. Let's see antivirus programs. So this this is 1845 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: from this website that I really like called av test. 1846 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 1: Whenever people ask me, like, hey, Rich, what's the best 1847 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,759 Speaker 1: antivirus program for my computer? I always say Windows Defender 1848 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: is pretty good because it's built in. Just activate it, 1849 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 1: make sure it's up to date, and that will protect 1850 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 1: you from most of the big stuff. But av test 1851 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,920 Speaker 1: is where I send you if you say, well, I 1852 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,760 Speaker 1: want something else, something different. This is an independent organization 1853 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,040 Speaker 1: that sort of looks at these different security programs and 1854 01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,679 Speaker 1: comes up with rankings. And they always have a great 1855 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,440 Speaker 1: list of rankings on their website. It's av test, ava 1856 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 1: test dot org. And they do tests for all different systems, 1857 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 1: whether it is Mac, PC, Windows, sorry Android. You can 1858 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: see what's top rated. Well, this is interesting because a 1859 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of people use Microsoft Defender. That's great, but it 1860 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,760 Speaker 1: turns out it uses up more system resources than some 1861 01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 1: other popular antivirus programs. So av test test did eighteen 1862 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 1: different anti virus software for Windows ten. They tested the 1863 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 1: programs around twelve thousand different malware samples mixed into one 1864 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: point five million files to see which ones did the 1865 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:16,160 Speaker 1: best between differentiating between something bad and something good. The 1866 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,800 Speaker 1: eighteen security packages were from some big names like on 1867 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:28,839 Speaker 1: lab a, vast avg Bitdefender, Kespirski, malware Bytes, McAfee, Microsoft Defender, Norton. 1868 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,960 Speaker 1: They gave these things all kinds of different points for 1869 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 1: their you know how they performed in different categories protection, performance, 1870 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 1: and usability. So who came out on top, Well, the 1871 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 1: highest system load in the test was generated by Windows 1872 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Defender Antivirus, which means this would take up the most 1873 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 1: resources on your computer. 1874 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 2: Maybe use more battery, use more energy. Whatever. 1875 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 1: The worst score was given to PC Mattic in the 1876 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,880 Speaker 1: usability section. It got the lowest overall score. It also 1877 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 1: found two dozen false positives and blocked a bunch of 1878 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,240 Speaker 1: applications that maybe you needed. Six products. Here's the best part. 1879 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 1: This is the parts you need to know. Six products 1880 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,559 Speaker 1: got a perfect score of eighteen. So if you're looking 1881 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: to install an anti virus program on your computer, these 1882 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:19,559 Speaker 1: are the ones that they currently recommend. A Vira, which, 1883 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 1: by the way, those two are the same company at 1884 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 1: this point, Bitdefender, g Data, Kasperski, and trend Micro. 1885 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,559 Speaker 2: So those are the. 1886 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: Top six that got a perfect score of eighteen. And 1887 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 1: by the way, Microsoft Defender was all the way down 1888 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 1: to the bottom, almost. 1889 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 2: Number I guess it came in at sixteen. 1890 01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Norton and McAfee were right in the middle, so a Vastdavira, 1891 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: those are the ones you want to install if you're 1892 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,440 Speaker 1: looking for a free antivirus program. 1893 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 2: I'll put the links on the website. 1894 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV, all right, coming up, we're 1895 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,680 Speaker 1: going to talk Zelda and the new game for the 1896 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 1: makers of POKEMONO. It's called Paradot. You're listening to rich 1897 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro 1898 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,639 Speaker 1: here talking technology with you at triple eight Rich one 1899 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,080 Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four 1900 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,760 Speaker 1: to one zero one. So a couple of games came 1901 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: out this week that are proving. 1902 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 2: To be very popular. First off, Zelda. 1903 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,680 Speaker 1: This is a brand new Zelda game that is just 1904 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: the highly anticipated sequel to a game that came out 1905 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,599 Speaker 1: many years ago, that launched with the switch in fact, 1906 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 1: and so everyone was downloading this at midnight on Thursday 1907 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,679 Speaker 1: to play all day Friday and of course throughout the weekend. 1908 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 1: So if you know a gamer in your life, they're 1909 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 1: probably playing the Zelda game. There's also another game called Paradot, 1910 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 1: which is from the makers of Pokemon GO, and so 1911 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: that's another new game. Let's see, let's bring up Eric 1912 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 1: Switcher from the gamer dot com. I'm not sure how 1913 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 1: we're connecting with Eric, but do we have Eric? 1914 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:02,280 Speaker 9: I'm here? 1915 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh hey, Eric, welcome to the show. 1916 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,200 Speaker 6: Hi, thanks so much. 1917 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 1: We're doing the show remote today, so everything is sort 1918 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,760 Speaker 1: of well, I'm just all over the place. Everyone else 1919 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 1: is very professional and calm and cool and collected. But 1920 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,880 Speaker 1: I am I am just you know, it happens anyway. 1921 01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 1: So tell me about the Which game do you want 1922 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,599 Speaker 1: to start with? You want to start with Paradout or Zelda. 1923 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 6: Let's start with Zelda. 1924 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 1925 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 1: So every single person on my timeline that is any 1926 01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,720 Speaker 1: sort of gamer is was very, very excited for this 1927 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 1: new Zelda game. So why are people so excited for 1928 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,080 Speaker 1: Zelda Tears. 1929 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 2: Of the Kingdom. 1930 01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, So, like you mentioned, it is a sequel to 1931 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 6: Breath of the Wild, which came out in twenty seventeen, 1932 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,960 Speaker 6: and Breath of the Wild is a pretty important game 1933 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 6: in video game history. It's sold thirty million copies. It 1934 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,360 Speaker 6: launched alongside the Nintendo Switch, so it kind of ushered 1935 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,320 Speaker 6: in the new generation of Nintendo, which has become the 1936 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 6: biggest Nintendo council of all time. So there was a 1937 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 6: lot of anticipation for this game, and Nintendo was very 1938 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,280 Speaker 6: secretive about it for the months leading up to it. 1939 01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,599 Speaker 6: We really didn't know much about what the game would 1940 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 6: have to offer. So it's just sort of a perfect 1941 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 6: storm of coming off of a game that's so popular 1942 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:19,879 Speaker 6: and on a Council. That's so popular. 1943 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,559 Speaker 1: People were really excited about it, and so it's getting 1944 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,480 Speaker 1: like near perfect reviews. 1945 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 2: Is that true? 1946 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I think the Metacritics score is at a 1947 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,639 Speaker 6: ninety six, which gets it tied for third highest rated 1948 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,800 Speaker 6: game of all time. There's quite a few games that 1949 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,799 Speaker 6: have in ninety six, but it is quite quite high. 1950 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,840 Speaker 2: And why do you think, I mean, what are people 1951 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,519 Speaker 2: saying about it? Why is it so good? 1952 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 6: So there's a lot of new things that it has 1953 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 6: coming off of Breath of the Wild. I think that 1954 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 6: the big new feature that people are so excited about 1955 01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 6: is an ability that the character link has. It's called 1956 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,639 Speaker 6: ultrahand and it seems complicated, but what it really boils 1957 01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 6: down to is that you can take any objects in 1958 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,800 Speaker 6: the world and combine them together to make something new. 1959 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 6: So it's really really unlocking people's creativity to invent new 1960 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 6: machines and come up with interesting vehicles, and it helps 1961 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,960 Speaker 6: you to explore the world in creative ways. 1962 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's I mean you I love how you 1963 01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: said this is really complicated, but you made it sound 1964 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,719 Speaker 1: so easy. I mean you you explained it very well. 1965 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 1: So that's a good job for explaining it. In that 1966 01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 1: simple way now. 1967 01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 6: And it is so easy to use. Yeah, I think 1968 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 6: that the genius of it is that, you know, you 1969 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,320 Speaker 6: can make these really complicated vehicles and machines and stuff, 1970 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,600 Speaker 6: but it's a very intuitive and I think that's what 1971 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 6: people are really grabbing onto. 1972 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,200 Speaker 2: Now. 1973 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 1: This is also the first Switch game that is at 1974 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,599 Speaker 1: a higher price point, right, isn't this this the first 1975 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,519 Speaker 1: seventy dollars game for the Switch? 1976 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct. That's a trend that the industry has 1977 01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,880 Speaker 6: been moving in. PA started doing that with the launch 1978 01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,880 Speaker 6: of the PS five. Xbox recently did that a couple 1979 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 6: of weeks ago with the release of a game called Redfall. 1980 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 6: So we're going to be seeing games come out at 1981 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,639 Speaker 6: seventy dollars pretty consistently from here on out. 1982 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 1: But the reality is, if you're listening and you have 1983 01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 1: someone in your life that has a Switch and they 1984 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,400 Speaker 1: like games, do you recommend that they would get this 1985 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 1: for a birthday gift or some sort of gift for 1986 01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,040 Speaker 1: the gamer in their life. 1987 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely. You know, the beauty of Zelda is the 1988 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 6: way that it really crosses all ages. It's approachable for kids, 1989 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,920 Speaker 6: and it has so much depth for experienced gamers. Too. 1990 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,160 Speaker 6: It is a wonderful game, and it's also just sort 1991 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,160 Speaker 6: of a cultural moment that I think people want to 1992 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:44,800 Speaker 6: be a part of. 1993 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 1: And when do you think we'll see a new Switch? 1994 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing is going on many, many years old. 1995 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: They've come out with various versions of it throughout the years, 1996 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 1: but it's all pretty much basically the same. 1997 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 2: Do you think we're going to see a new Switch? 1998 01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 2: Maybe next year or no. 1999 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 6: I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation. This has come 2000 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:06,559 Speaker 6: out to be the longest council generation Nintendo has ever had, 2001 01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,639 Speaker 6: where we're coming up on seven years, and we've never 2002 01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 6: had to wait that long for a new Nintendo. So 2003 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 6: I think it's pretty reasonable to assume we'll be seen 2004 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 6: a new one next year. 2005 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,160 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're talking with Eric Switzer. He is 2006 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 1: the features editor at the gamer dot com and your 2007 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:28,919 Speaker 1: bio says that you specialize in Pokemon, So I imagine 2008 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 1: you are a big Pokemon player. But now that you've 2009 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,120 Speaker 1: got this new game from the makers of Pokemon Go 2010 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:37,320 Speaker 1: called Paradot, So what can you tell me about this game? 2011 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,599 Speaker 1: Which I've been playing a little bit, but I'm still 2012 01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it's all about. 2013 01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 6: Okay, cool, Yeah, I've been playing a lot of paradigt too. 2014 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:49,000 Speaker 6: You know, it's pretty fascinating. Like you said, it's from 2015 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,400 Speaker 6: the creators of Pokemon Go is a company called Iontic 2016 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 6: looking for their next big mobile game, and this is 2017 01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 6: a I guess you would call it a pet simulator. 2018 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 6: Your audience might reach member of the Tamagatchi key chains 2019 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,200 Speaker 6: in the nineties, when kids would walk around training their 2020 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,120 Speaker 6: little pets and feeding them and playing with them. This 2021 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 6: is sort of a modern evolution of that idea. So 2022 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 6: it's an augmented reality game, which means that you play 2023 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,840 Speaker 6: it on your phone. Through your camera lens, you're looking 2024 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:18,920 Speaker 6: at the real world, and then the game puts in 2025 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,040 Speaker 6: virtual objects into your frame. So you have a virtual 2026 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 6: pet that can go on walks with you. You can 2027 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 6: feed it and play with it, and it's all through 2028 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 6: the lens of your camera. 2029 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 1: And it's neat because I was looking at it. Because 2030 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,639 Speaker 1: it's augmented reality, it says it can learn like your couch. 2031 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,639 Speaker 1: It kind of knows the surfaces that it's looking at 2032 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,240 Speaker 1: through your camera, and it kind of interacts with those 2033 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: surfaces in different ways. So it's a really unique spin 2034 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 1: on sort of the standard, you know, video game that 2035 01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,240 Speaker 1: you might play on your phone, because it is using 2036 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:54,360 Speaker 1: that augmented reality to kind of do different things. 2037 01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 2: In the game. 2038 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some really impressive technology that went into this game. 2039 01:39:59,439 --> 01:39:59,640 Speaker 7: You know. 2040 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,600 Speaker 6: It recognize the differences between all kinds of different services, 2041 01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:08,160 Speaker 6: so it knows grass, water, concrete, shrubs, and the game 2042 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,679 Speaker 6: will ask you to find certain things for your pet. 2043 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,439 Speaker 6: Your pet will want to go look at a tree 2044 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 6: so it can scratch on it, and you'll have to 2045 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,160 Speaker 6: go out into the real world and point your camera 2046 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,800 Speaker 6: at a tree, and then you'll get to see your 2047 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,960 Speaker 6: your pet run over dude and scratch on it. It's 2048 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 6: pretty impressive stuff. 2049 01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: I named my paradot. I guess they're called dots, but 2050 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 1: I named him Spot or them. I don't know if 2051 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's what it is, but I 2052 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,679 Speaker 1: named it Spot. And it's very cute, and it's sort 2053 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,080 Speaker 1: of like modeled after various creatures in the real world, 2054 01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely just a made up being, but 2055 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 1: it's it is very cute, it's very like affable, and 2056 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 1: it's just kind of fun. I mean, I don't know 2057 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 1: what I'm doing in this game, to be honest, But 2058 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 1: it's it's fun and I like just you know, throwing 2059 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 1: the ball and having this little creature fetch it and 2060 01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: putting the creature in these various places where I am it. 2061 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,160 Speaker 2: Just it looks like it's a part of the world 2062 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:02,639 Speaker 2: that I'm in. 2063 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, in terms of gameplay, it is pretty bare. 2064 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,920 Speaker 6: You can walk with them, you can play with them, 2065 01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,640 Speaker 6: and you can see them. But the real hook of 2066 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 6: the game is the breeding function, because all of these 2067 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 6: dots that you described, they all have a series of 2068 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 6: unique traits and really no two dots are the same. 2069 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,719 Speaker 6: So I think that the real hook of the game 2070 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:29,880 Speaker 6: is finding other dots to mate with to make new 2071 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,480 Speaker 6: dots that have more complex and interesting traits. 2072 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 1: And I noticed on kind of the sharing aspect is 2073 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 1: that you can see dots that are nearby, and so I. 2074 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,720 Speaker 2: Was a little bit curious about that too. 2075 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,640 Speaker 1: There's like on a map you can see dots that 2076 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,519 Speaker 1: were either visiting the same area or near the same area. 2077 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,680 Speaker 1: My big question for you, Eric, do you think this 2078 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 1: will be a blockbuster hit the way that Pokemon Go 2079 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,639 Speaker 1: was and still plays a big role in the mobile 2080 01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:58,320 Speaker 1: gaming world. 2081 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question, and I'm sure that Niantic 2082 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,120 Speaker 6: is wondering the same thing. You know, Pokemon Go's strength 2083 01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 6: is the Pokemon ip and while I think Pokemon Go 2084 01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 6: is a great game, it wouldn't be the game it 2085 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 6: was if the world didn't love Pokemon as much as 2086 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 6: we do. So Paradox has an uphill battle on that way. 2087 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 6: I think the tech is really impressive, the characters are 2088 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 6: super adorable. I think for them, what it's really going 2089 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 6: to come down to is how fair and reasonable their 2090 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 6: monetization is. You know, more and more with mobile games, 2091 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,519 Speaker 6: what is attracting players is the approachability aspect, and if 2092 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 6: they're asked to pay lots and lots of money to 2093 01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 6: continue playing that game, it's what pushes them away. And 2094 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 6: I think paradoig is trying to find a way to 2095 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,280 Speaker 6: balance that at the moment with what they're expecting their 2096 01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 6: players to pay for. 2097 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 1: All Right, Eric Switzer from TheGamer dot Com thanks so 2098 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,479 Speaker 1: much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. So 2099 01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:53,960 Speaker 1: which game are you going to play next? Are you 2100 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,479 Speaker 1: going to play more of Zelda or more of Paradox 2101 01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:57,160 Speaker 1: this weekend? 2102 01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 6: H I am hooked into Zelda. I can't put it down. 2103 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,680 Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing. All right, I've got it loaded up 2104 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,799 Speaker 1: on my switch here. I was not able to download 2105 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 1: it at the airport, so I had to wait. But 2106 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 1: I've got it on there and I just have to 2107 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,160 Speaker 1: start playing and any tips you can give me, anything 2108 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,720 Speaker 1: that I could kick off with. 2109 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 6: There's a lot of big gumball machines that are scattered 2110 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,599 Speaker 6: around the world, and if you interact with those, they'll 2111 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 6: give you lots and lots of extra parts that you 2112 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 6: can use to make fun machines. So don't ignore those 2113 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:29,760 Speaker 6: when you see them, all right. 2114 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,880 Speaker 1: Eric Switzer from TheGamer dot Com, thanks for much for 2115 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:33,679 Speaker 1: joining me today. 2116 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:35,880 Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to close out the show. 2117 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,960 Speaker 1: We're going to do the feedback section, which is one 2118 01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,840 Speaker 1: of your favorite sections of the show. I'm gonna tell 2119 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,680 Speaker 1: you about a traffic light that only turns green when 2120 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 1: you're driving at the right speed. You're listening to Rich 2121 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 1: Demiro here on rich on Tech. 2122 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,200 Speaker 2: More of the show coming up. 2123 01:43:54,120 --> 01:44:01,800 Speaker 1: Next, Welcome back to Britcha on Tech. Rich Demiro here 2124 01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 1: talking technology with you. 2125 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 2: We have had it all country line up today. 2126 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,200 Speaker 1: For the most part, it's been a couple other little 2127 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,120 Speaker 1: things sprinkled in here and there, But we got a 2128 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:20,920 Speaker 1: lot of country in this Austin based show today. Got 2129 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:22,519 Speaker 1: a couple of things to talk about, and then we'll 2130 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,880 Speaker 1: get to the feedback section. First off, Lift making a 2131 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,240 Speaker 1: lot of changes. Big change they're going to make. They 2132 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:34,800 Speaker 1: are discontinuing pooled rides. These were the super duper cheap 2133 01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,960 Speaker 1: rides that would put you in there with someone else 2134 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,719 Speaker 1: in the car, not just the driver, but a random 2135 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 1: person that also needed to go somewhere. And yes, I've 2136 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,519 Speaker 1: tried this. I've tried all of the different like Lift 2137 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 1: and Uber offerings throughout the years, and so I did 2138 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 1: this lift all I can't remember it was Left or Uber, 2139 01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,280 Speaker 1: one of them. But I did like the pool because 2140 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,000 Speaker 1: it was so much cheaper. I was going to I 2141 01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 1: believe it was an Apple event, going from the airport 2142 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 1: to the Apple of which was being held at like 2143 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,639 Speaker 1: the San Jose Convention Center. And I figured, everyone else 2144 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 1: that's landing with me right now at the airport must 2145 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,920 Speaker 1: be going to the same place, So chances are I'm 2146 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 1: just going to be linked up with someone else that's 2147 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,200 Speaker 1: going to the convention center and my ride is going 2148 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,360 Speaker 1: to be like seven bucks instead of like thirty. And 2149 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,800 Speaker 1: sure enough, it was great, it was fine. We didn't 2150 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,800 Speaker 1: really chat with the person that was I didn't chat 2151 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:23,599 Speaker 1: with the person in the car. 2152 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 2: I might have said hi. 2153 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:30,080 Speaker 1: But ANYWAYT is discontinuing shared rides, they said this week. 2154 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 1: The reason it takes people out of their way because 2155 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,320 Speaker 1: not every time you're going to be going to the 2156 01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 1: same place as the person in the car with you. 2157 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean they tried to make it to the same area, 2158 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,679 Speaker 1: but not always the same place. Lift started these things 2159 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:48,120 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen. Uber followed with Uber pool. The 2160 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,719 Speaker 1: companies both stopped doing these pooled rides during the pandemic 2161 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, and they gradually reintroduced them last year. 2162 01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,599 Speaker 1: But now Lift is saying no more. Yes, we'll still 2163 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 1: do this. If they still do it, I'm not really 2164 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,200 Speaker 1: sure if they do it. But Lift is focusing on 2165 01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,479 Speaker 1: boosting their airport rides, which makes up about ten percent 2166 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,720 Speaker 1: of their trips. They want to make it easier for 2167 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,080 Speaker 1: customers to pre book a trip. I noticed that I 2168 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 1: got a notification on my phone. I guess it was 2169 01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,560 Speaker 1: connected to my calendar, and it said, hey, do you 2170 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,160 Speaker 1: want to book a ride to the airport. When I 2171 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,560 Speaker 1: noticed that I was going to the airport. And the 2172 01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,879 Speaker 1: thing about these airport scheduled rides with Lift and Stuff 2173 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,120 Speaker 1: and Uber is like, since Uber and Lyft are on demand, 2174 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 1: I always find. 2175 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 2: It odd to schedule a ride. 2176 01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,400 Speaker 1: It's like, why not just do it on demand because 2177 01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 1: you can get a car most of the time pretty easily. 2178 01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,400 Speaker 1: I actually tested out a service called Alto for my 2179 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 1: ride to the airport this time, and this is super 2180 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 1: duper fancy stuff. 2181 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,519 Speaker 2: So this Alto situation. 2182 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,040 Speaker 1: Is a company that they have their own fleet of 2183 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,200 Speaker 1: luxury vehicles and all of their drivers are w two employees, 2184 01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: so they give them benefits like four oh one k's 2185 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 1: hourly pay and health benefits. This is operating in Houston, Dallas, LA, Miami, Washington, 2186 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:11,080 Speaker 1: d C. And San Francisco. And so they have the 2187 01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:14,080 Speaker 1: guy picked me up. It was a scheduled ride. Way 2188 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 1: more I would say, way more expensive than sort of 2189 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,519 Speaker 1: a Lift or an Uber at their cheapest tier, but 2190 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:25,360 Speaker 1: maybe on par with an Uber Black or a Lift Lux, 2191 01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,680 Speaker 1: you know where it's like the really high end. This 2192 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 1: is more like a car service if you're familiar with that. 2193 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,720 Speaker 1: So Alto is much more of like a almost like 2194 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:38,200 Speaker 1: a show first service. I would say women in safety. 2195 01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 1: That's the main reason why people use Alto. 2196 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 2: To. 2197 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 1: Fifty five percent of Alto riders are women and Alto 2198 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,679 Speaker 1: drivers eleven Let's see Alto. 2199 01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,040 Speaker 2: What am I looking at here? Oh? That I thought 2200 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,240 Speaker 2: this was cool. The Alto vehicles. 2201 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,080 Speaker 1: Come equipped with cameras in real time monitoring, so I 2202 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: thought that was neat, which is linked to a manned 2203 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,960 Speaker 1: Alto dispatch center. They've got two thousand drivers and four 2204 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,800 Speaker 1: hundred vehicles on the road. They have six hundred to 2205 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,600 Speaker 1: hit the road in twenty twenty three. And you have 2206 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 1: to be a member, by the way, or you don't 2207 01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,000 Speaker 1: have to be, but it's cheaper if you're a member, 2208 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 1: so they say seventy five percent are member. So anyway, 2209 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 1: Alto if you want an alternative to lift an uber, 2210 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,400 Speaker 1: but just keep in mind it is more expensive, but 2211 01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,799 Speaker 1: it's more like a chauffeur. So this is like think fancy, fancy, 2212 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,439 Speaker 1: fancy ride to the airport or fancy fancy ride to 2213 01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,880 Speaker 1: pick up someone from the airport. Okay, let's let me 2214 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,640 Speaker 1: tell you about this new light. This traffic light in Quebec. 2215 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,800 Speaker 1: It only turns green for safe drivers. This is in 2216 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,000 Speaker 1: the Canadian city of Brossard. Near Montreal, they have a 2217 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,360 Speaker 1: new traffic light in a school zone that turns green 2218 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:48,080 Speaker 1: for safe drivers. They call it fred. The light is 2219 01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: red by default, but it turns green when the speed 2220 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,920 Speaker 1: camera detects your car going at a speed limit that's 2221 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: under the posted speed. So it's not really a real 2222 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,160 Speaker 1: signal per se, but it just makes you slow down. 2223 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:02,960 Speaker 2: I guess if you see a red light, you're probably 2224 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:03,920 Speaker 2: gonna stop. I guess. 2225 01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,040 Speaker 1: So. Similar signals have been used in Europe for years. 2226 01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 1: This is on a ninety day trial in a two 2227 01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:13,240 Speaker 1: lane street that runs through a suburban area. The mayor 2228 01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 1: said most vehicles go through that area at twenty five 2229 01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 1: miles an hour, but in the past week average speeds 2230 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,640 Speaker 1: have dropped to eighteen miles an hour. They say it 2231 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,080 Speaker 1: doesn't record any private information. It's just a text that 2232 01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,439 Speaker 1: the vehicle is doing the speed it should to kind 2233 01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:30,280 Speaker 1: of help people just slow down in that area. 2234 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,360 Speaker 2: So kind of a smart idea. I like that. 2235 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the feedback. Dion says, great 2236 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:40,000 Speaker 1: show you put out Sunday. I'm listening in Montana. I 2237 01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,120 Speaker 1: heard a woman call in wanting to know how to 2238 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,400 Speaker 1: get internet on her radio. I have not found a 2239 01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,280 Speaker 1: way to do this either. What I do want to share, 2240 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,280 Speaker 1: I have a transistor radio which continuously picks up plays 2241 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,160 Speaker 1: the weather that has picked. 2242 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,519 Speaker 2: Off picked up off of an FAA wave. 2243 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,640 Speaker 1: It's not Internet, but I'd say it's as close to 2244 01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,519 Speaker 1: as she's going to come with a radio device. Got 2245 01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot of feedback about the caller last week that 2246 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,960 Speaker 1: was asking for some sort of radio that would pick 2247 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:11,439 Speaker 1: up Internet radio streaming and also THEAA radio stream. Greg says, hey, Rich, 2248 01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 1: I heard the segment with a woman that wanted anaa radio. 2249 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:18,080 Speaker 1: Sporties dot com has some aviation radios. The cheapest one 2250 01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,440 Speaker 1: is one hundred and ninety nine dollars. They're kind of expensive. 2251 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 1: And let's say I think there's one more on this, oh, 2252 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,200 Speaker 1: Neil said, and this is about the Aura frame. The 2253 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,679 Speaker 1: guest we had last week, the digital frame called Aura. 2254 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 1: He said, when we became grandparents, our daughter gifted us 2255 01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,400 Speaker 1: one of these frames. They seem expensive, but they work 2256 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,680 Speaker 1: really well and they have all the features being spot on. 2257 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,960 Speaker 1: Being ten hours away from our kids is balanced by 2258 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,000 Speaker 1: receiving new pictures as grandchild grows. Neil so Neil liked 2259 01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: the guest talking about the Aura frames. I love that thing. 2260 01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 1: Great gift. I can't believe that's going to do it 2261 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,640 Speaker 1: for this show. Next week, I'm going to tell you 2262 01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,960 Speaker 1: about a website that lets you research and report scams 2263 01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:04,000 Speaker 1: you don't become a victim of them again. You can 2264 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:07,000 Speaker 1: find me on social media. I am at rich on tech. 2265 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,679 Speaker 1: The website to go to is richon tech dot tv. 2266 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,080 Speaker 1: You can check it out For notes to what I 2267 01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,559 Speaker 1: mentioned here, I also put them in the podcast, so 2268 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,719 Speaker 1: if you're listening to the podcast version, looking the notes 2269 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,799 Speaker 1: for anything that I talk about here on the show. 2270 01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,520 Speaker 1: This has been a fantastic show from Austin, Texas. 2271 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 2: What a cool city. 2272 01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:28,080 Speaker 1: I love traveling because it gives me so much perspective 2273 01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,560 Speaker 1: on the world. For instance, I can tell you prices 2274 01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,640 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas are cheaper than prices in Los Angeles. 2275 01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,240 Speaker 1: That's the one thing I've noticed here so far. And 2276 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,000 Speaker 1: people are very friendly. My name is rich Demiel. Thanks 2277 01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,840 Speaker 1: so much for listening. There are so many ways you 2278 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 1: can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it 2279 01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 1: right here with me. Thanks to everyone everywhere who makes 2280 01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,360 Speaker 1: this show possible. As they say in the South, I'm 2281 01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,720 Speaker 1: fixing to talk to you real soon take care 2282 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:00,400 Speaker 4: And