1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: podcast and become a Coast Insider and you can hear 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: all of this fascinating conversation, along with recent shows about 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: a family's terrifying experience with demonic possession, chilling ghost stories 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: from the world of country music, and the ancient lost 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: civilizations like Atlantis. Head on over to Coast to Coast 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: a m dot com and sign up for Coast Insider 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: to start listening. Now here's a highlight from Coast to 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Coast AM on iHeart Radio. Have you come across any 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: demons in your research? There's um, there's It's funny you 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: asked that. There's a clip. We did an episode of 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the Old Show in Manchester, England, and it was a 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: radio station there with my friends Dave said Lerned, Steve 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Mara and the host of the radio show. They for 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: some reason they started talking about demons and they said, well, Paul, 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: have you ever seen a demon? And I said, well, no, 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to see a demon, not that I 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: know of. And you know it's like the demon shows 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: up and he says, well, you know, where's Paul. Well, 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Paul heard you were coming and he left. You know, 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: if ghosts I can handle George, demons not so much. No, 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. And yeah, you can get hurt 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: with those. Well that's the thing. I you know, it's funny. Uh. 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: I have a very good friend who's an Anglican minister, 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: which is I guess the Canadian equivalent of an episcopally 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's the American equivalent of the Anglican Church. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: And and he's you know, interested in exorcisms and stuff 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: like that, and he has warned me in a friendly, 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: kindly sort of way over the years to stay away 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: from things like wigia boards and opening doors to places 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: and being smart. Minister. Yes, yes, well he's a very 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: smart He's got a master's de Green Divinity or something 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I've psychics. Everybody I've talked 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: to has said stay away from stuff like that. So again, 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, Paul is an idiot. What did Holly and 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I do? We whipped out the weigia board during when 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: we in the previous series, and I don't think we're 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: going to do it again this time because Hally and 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: I used to joke when the last series ended we 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: only did one year of it, and we said we 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: should go to Peru or you know, Arizona or someplace 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: and and sit down with shamans and be cleansed, have 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: a spiritual cleansing, because what if, you know, after doing 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: thirteen episodes of this, uh, some sort of dark energy 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: has attached itself to you. I don't know if it has, 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: but on air on the side of caution, maybe we 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: should go see somebody. And the funny thing is neither 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: of us ever did. So we've continued. Um. I can't 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: speak for Holly obviously, but I've continued to have, you know, 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: synchronistic experiences that started happening after that. Holly and I 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: went to the Czech Republic when the series ended because 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: we were shooting in England and we thought, sure, let's 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: just make a vacation out of it. And you know, 54 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: I had an experience with a shadow the only way 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: to call it is a shadow person in a little 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: town called Chesky Krimlov in the Czech Republic that I 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: write about in my book, which is one of the 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: scariest things I've ever experienced. I honestly thought I was 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: in real trouble. And you know, then you talk to 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: people in the town and they say, oh, yes, I 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: remember going to a bar and they had a drawing 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: of what looked like a shadow person on the wall 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: of the street outside the bar that I hadn't noticed before. 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: So I said that drawing is do you guys sort 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: of like have strange things in this town? And she said, yeah, 66 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I can't do a check accent. I'll try. Yes, we 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: do the shadows. You sound Russian. Yeah, I know my 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: check sound Russian. It's like nine impressions. Yeah, sorry, um, 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: you know. But she said, yes, we do have these 70 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: these sort of beings and stories and stuff. And I said, great. 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I wish somebody had told me that when I got 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: off the train, because I went for a walk by 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: myself through the town last night and I encountered one 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: of these beings and she she said, well, I will 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: buy you a drink, and I said, well, thank you 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: very much. It's all worthwhile, isn't it. But you know, 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that's that's the kind of thing that when you open 78 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: that door, it does seem to happen to you more 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: and more. So you know, i'm sort of it's it's 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: it's really kind of got me jazz to go back 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and see what happens this time. Wrote a book five 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: years ago called the Other Side of Truth, and you 83 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: were talking about various investigating experiences of things that we're 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: talking about tonight. Did you ever come across anything that 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: outside of you getting you know, almost roped by a 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: ghost that really scared you? Um? Yeah, the shadow we 87 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: weren't even doing the show, was over the show, the 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: shadow Man in the Chesky Crumb Law. That that was 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: truly frightening. Um. But there was, you know a number 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: of sort of things. Uh, there was one episode we 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: did in a small little farmhouse in quinnin Nova Scotia. 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: It's like a speck on the map. Maybe ten people 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: lived there, I don't know. And it was bad juju 94 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: as they say they yes, my daughter says that a 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: lot there you go. The people in the house were 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: really really scared, and it was it was in the 97 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: basement of the house, it was all through the house 98 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: is this little small farmhouse. So anyway, we had a 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: psychic with us that night, and I'm not a big 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: believer in psychics, but you know, this kind of opened 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: my mind to maybe psychics have something as well. So 102 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Holly and the psychic sat upstairs in the kitchen, and 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: she was doing automatic writing, and the psychic was trying 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: to channel and all this sort of stuff to find out, Okay, 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: what's going on? And I plot myself down in the basement, 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: which was haunted. And to get to the basement you 107 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: had to go outside, so you had to walk out 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: and go down through a root seller. Many of your 109 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: rural listeners will know exactly what I'm talking about. So 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down there in the root cellar by myself. 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: It's freezing cold. I have a camera trained on me, 112 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: but there's nobody else there. It's just running automatically. And 113 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I can hear them though upstairs because there I can 114 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: hear them through the floorboards. So there's this funny if 115 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: you watch the episode, there's this funny sequence where they're going, baby, 116 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: there's a dead baby in the basement, and I'm going, 117 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: what now? Dead? What in the base? And Holly says, 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: well what, And the psychic says we should send somebody 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: down there to investigate this. And I can hear Holly going, well, 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: Paul's already down there, and and the psychic goes, well, 121 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the dead baby you know Paul's 122 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: down there. Make yourself known to him, and you see 123 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: me on camera. I mean, I'm already a little freaked 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: out because I've been down there, and I literally am 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: talking to the camera going no, don't send the baby down, 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: stop it, don't. I don't want to meet the dead baby. 127 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: And then the door to the root seller, which was 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: wedge shut. I'm I'm not kidding when I say like 129 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: it was one of those doors you had to lift 130 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: up kind of thing and then move over a little 131 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: hump of dirt to get in, blew open behind me. 132 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: And so it was this confluence of events whereas they're 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: telling the dead baby to come visit me in the basement, 134 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: the door blows open. There was no wind. I thought 135 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: the crew was playing a trick on me. I really 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: thought the camera guy or the sound guy come out. 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, ha ha, I got you ball. 138 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: So I kind of went, Okay, that's weird. You see 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: me get up. I look around. I realized there's nobody 140 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: out there. There's no other you know, there's nobody around 141 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: for miles and there's no wind. And and even if 142 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: there had been a hurricane, it would have been I 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: can't imagine how it could have blown this store open 144 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: over this this nodverse. Those are heavy doors too, yes, 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: and that too, so open it goes. And that was it. 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: You hear me sort of um swearing in Battlestar Galactica ease, 147 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: So I'm the only ghost hunter has ever used Battlestar 148 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Galactical language, like you know, well that's just fracking hunky dory, 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: which is a combinator. You could use cling on? Who 150 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: would know? Right? Um? Yeah? I did meet General Martok 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: once at the Paranormal conference, so I probably could used 152 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: cling on too, but which would be better than my 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: check impression. So there you go. But that was it. 154 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back down in the basement, but you'll 155 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: appreciate this, George, because you're a consummate professional. As they 156 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: were still filming in the kitchen, it was minus ten 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: degrees out. Forty minutes, I stood outside because I didn't 158 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: want to and that is cold. Yeah, no, it was 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: bitterly cold. So it was me and the German shepherd 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: tied up in the yard and it's it was forty 161 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: minutes that really focused my attention on what had just happened, 162 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: and I realized, you know what this is the I 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: had already been strangled, and I kind of wrote that off. 164 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I said, this is where it serious, because I heard 165 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: them talking upstairs, and when they said do something, something happened. 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, yep, the skeptic in me might 167 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: still be sitting in that basement, but the frady cat, 168 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: who's now maybe peering towards woe there could be something 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: to do. This is standing in the freezing cold out 170 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: here wondering what the heck just happened to me? And that, yeah, 171 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: that really, to this day, I remember it like it 172 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: happened yesterday, and that that scared me. And I don't 173 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: have any problem admitting that it's scared. I don't blame you. 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 175 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast 176 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: am dot com for more