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Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate kabai you want to

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Speaker 3: pass and we are under way. Hello and welcome to

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Speaker 3: another episode of the Action Network Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: Brandon Anderson here with Raheem Palmer, late on a Sunday

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Speaker 3: night to wrap up another week of football Week fourteen

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Speaker 3: in the books. Holy cow, these weeks are flying by.

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Speaker 3: This was another huge week for favorites. Second straight big

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Speaker 3: week for favorites. Bairds today went eleven and one straight up,

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Speaker 3: two against the spread. Probably should have been eleven and

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Speaker 3: to one against the spread, but you know, Brown's gonna Browns.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back to that one for sure. Pretty mundane

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Speaker 3: the slate of games until we got a lot of

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Speaker 3: late weird comebacks that made things close. Rahim Friday, we

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Speaker 3: talked about four games, we previewed them. I picked all four.

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Speaker 3: I swept the four. How you like me now?

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Speaker 4: I am very very very angry. Right now, because two

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Speaker 4: of those games could have gone either way. One in

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Speaker 4: particular was the Cleveland Browns game. We all know the

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Speaker 4: Ravens had no business covering that game. The Buffalo Bills Bucks,

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Speaker 4: I give you that one, but I mean, you swept

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Speaker 4: the board, so it's the NFL. If you could sweep

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Speaker 4: the board in the NFL, you're.

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Speaker 1: Doing something right. So I'm not gonna try to take

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Speaker 4: But I'm just angry because there's no reason I should

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Speaker 4: have gone three and two in the contest this week.

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Speaker 1: It should have been four to one at minimum. But

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Speaker 1: those are the breaks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this is a week where so I

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Speaker 3: But this is one of those Sundays where whatever your

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Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, these games happen. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how one team covered or didn't cover or whatever. Hey,

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Speaker 3: we got them right, Great, I'll take my cash and

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Speaker 3: go on to next week. So we'll talk about some

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Speaker 3: of these weird finishes. We will get to our hot

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Speaker 3: night game two in a row we got coming up,

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Speaker 3: and yeah we'll get into We're gonna cover all four

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Speaker 3: of those games we did Friday that ended up being

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Speaker 3: today are from bet MGM, the official adds provider of

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Speaker 3: the Action Network podcast. We'll start out with that big

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Speaker 3: one Bill's Bocks. We thought this would be good. It

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Speaker 3: didn't look good early, Bucks twenty four to three at

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Speaker 3: win in overtime. Thirty three twenty seven. Tale of two halves.

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Speaker 3: Which team do you think deserve to win this game?

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Speaker 4: I think the Buccaneers probably deserved to win that game

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Speaker 4: just based on what we saw in the first half. Look,

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Speaker 4: the Bills didn't run the ball at all in the

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Speaker 4: because you can't let Tom Brady get that ball back

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Speaker 3: And even those Super Bowls, you know, the one, the

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Speaker 3: for Brady, my guy, My guy. I've never called Tim

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Speaker 3: hundredth career touchdown including postseason on that final play. By

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Speaker 3: the gaming weight. All year, he broke the NFL career

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Speaker 1: He's the MVP.

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Speaker 3: I think this today was about Tom Timman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think he sealed it up. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting because so next Sunday night the

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Speaker 4: They really haven't beaten anybody all year long. They're just

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Speaker 3: seeing Jimmy Garoppolo made me be like, oh, that's right. Still,

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Speaker 3: can make you win four games. Jimmy g is not

434
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Speaker 3: winning four games. Three on the route's not happening. Fop

435
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Speaker 3: of fifteen a third down.

436
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Speaker 4: You know, I do want to give him credit for

437
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 4: he had back to back drop to lead the team

438
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 4: down the field, and that's not an easy thing to do,

439
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 4: so you got to give him a little bit credit there.

440
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 4: But like you said before, it's just it's tough to

441
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 4: trust this team. And then when you have that many

442
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 4: cluster injuries in the secondary in today's NFL, you're just

443
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 4: not gonna beat mini team, especially at a passively. I

444
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: think the forty nine ers are probably even if they

445
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: make it to the playoffs, you're probably a quick out.

446
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Speaker 3: And that's gonna lead us to the stink of the week.

447
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: Smell it, Smell it, smell it.

448
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: It's the smell. It's quite pungent.

449
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: Dude, plug your nose.

450
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: It's stinks.

451
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: This is your stink of the week.

452
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: In Cleveland, Baltimore, Cleveland. We talked about this weird scheduling spot.

453
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: We knew it was coming, and then it looked all

454
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 3: the part. Early Cleveland smashes Baltimore seventeen to nothing. Right

455
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: out of the gates, Lamar Jackson hurts his ankle, he's out,

456
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: turned the game off, it's over, and then just absolute

457
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: disastrous collapse. And I know that you're on the Browns,

458
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna let you take it from here. What

459
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 3: happened to the Browns today?

460
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Speaker 1: I think what.

461
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: Happens to the Browns is basically the offense has been

462
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, Baker Mayfield. And I

463
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: think this is this is part of the handicap that

464
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Speaker 4: I'll probably miss Baker Mayfield. He's proven that he probably

465
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 4: shouldn't even be out there case Keatham should probably be playing.

466
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 4: He was twenty two of thirty two or one hundred

467
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Speaker 4: and ninety yards, two touchdowns, one interception.

468
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Speaker 1: This team has had plenty of times chances to put

469
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Speaker 1: this game away.

470
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: The Browns have only they failed the top seventeen points

471
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Speaker 4: for like the last month. And what it comes down

472
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Speaker 4: to is that, and this is very similar to the

473
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Speaker 4: forty nine Ers game, is.

474
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Speaker 1: That regardless of the league that you have.

475
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Speaker 4: You can't go the entire second half without scoring points

476
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: because you're leaving your defense on the field regardless of

477
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 4: how well they're playing, and you're allowing the other team's

478
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 4: offense to mount a comeback. And I think Cleveland they're

479
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 4: in trouble, and a lot of it has to do

480
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Speaker 4: with Baker Mayfield.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so seventeen to twenty four to three. But I

482
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 3: remember that touchdown was not an offensive score. That was

483
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: just Miles Garrett being the defensive player of the year,

484
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 3: comes off of one end sacks, the quarterback strips, the ball,

485
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: comes all the way across the field of the other side,

486
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: picks up and goes in for the touchdown, first of

487
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: his career. Somehow, I didn't know that was the case.

488
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: But so it's twenty four to three. They don't score again.

489
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: They literally don't score another point after that. Here are

490
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: some of the Browns drives they had from that point forward,

491
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 3: so seventeen to nothing. From there, the rest of the game,

492
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: the Browns have drives of zero plays, two plays, two, three, three,

493
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: and four. Those are all Browns drives. Even better, they

494
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: had a ten play drive for sixteen yards. I don't

495
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: even really know how you do that. How do you

496
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: run ten plays for sixteen yards? Yeah, that was how

497
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: they open the second half. Great, great halftime talk, coach.

498
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: And they also had to miss field goal, like the

499
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: one missed field goal. That's the cover right there. And

500
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: then even more tragic is that, with like five minutes

501
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: to go, the Ravens get called for intentional ground in penalty,

502
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: so they punt and the Rounds actually get the ball

503
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 4: in Baltimore territory with six minutes to go left in

504
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: the game, and look, you drop ten you drop ten yards,

505
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: you pretty much kick a field go, you pretty much

506
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: ice the game. And instead they run twice. Nick Chum

507
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: gets stopped.

508
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield short left pass the Donovan Peoples Jones Baltimore.

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: Forty three, and then they punt and then before you

510
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: know it, Huntley is driving down the field.

511
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: He gets two fourth downs.

512
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 4: The big fourth down catch was just put them at

513
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: the eight, and before you know Baltimore's scoring and they

514
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: cover the game. So it's just at some point your

515
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: offense has to do something, and it's just tragic. They're

516
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: continuing to stick with Baker Mayfield even though he's not healthy.

517
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Speaker 1: And I think going forward.

518
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Speaker 4: You kind of have to put the Browns on a

519
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: list where it's like, how can you back this team

520
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 4: laying points to anybody else when you don't have a

521
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: consistent quarterback who can make the throws and do.

522
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: You can't give up Tyler Huntley not terrible in this play,

523
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: even had a couple of nice little runs there that

524
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: remind you of Lamar Jackson. But you can't have this

525
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 3: big of a lead in this game, a team that

526
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: you've prepared for for three weeks, your rival who stole

527
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: the team from you, your season on the line in

528
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: their backup quarterback, and you allow him to march fourteen

529
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: plays ninety yards down the field for the touchdown, and honestly,

530
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: I think Cleveland is extremely lucky not to lose this game.

531
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: So that touchdown comes down nine or up nine for

532
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: the Browns. So suddenly the Ravens are down to recover

533
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: the on side kick. I thought it was over. Like

534
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: we got Justin Tucker. You could bring him on the field.

535
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: Now you can probably kick like an eighty yarder for

536
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: the win. And the Browns gets the game saved by

537
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: their defense. Dodviian Clowney has a huge sack do you

538
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: make a third and twenty Denzel Ward big tackle to

539
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: end the game and the Browns escape here. But the

540
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: raven had almost one hundred more yards this game, and

541
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: they lost the turnover battle, did ten penalties for one

542
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five yards. Baltimore is one of thirteen

543
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: on third down. They gave up a defensive touchdown. They

544
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: still should have won. The Browns had everything in their

545
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: favor and still barely by the skin of their teeth escaped.

546
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Here is I do not feel good. I don't feel

547
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 3: good about either one of these teams. To be honest, I'm.

548
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Gonna be honest with you.

549
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: I think you look at this game and you have

550
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: to wonder if if Lamar Jackson doesn't get hurt, maybe

551
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: they the Raiders probably win this game, and they probably

552
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 4: win it by touchdown.

553
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: It's like they might winn't comfortably at that point out.

554
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, because I mean when you really sit

555
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: down and think about it, the fumble return was Hotly

556
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 4: that that wasn't Lamar Jackson. So it's like the Raiders

557
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: have had these slow starts all year, and for whatever reason,

558
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson gets to go on in the second half and

559
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: Hotly follow suit, but I think Lamar Jackson out there

560
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: probably win that game.

561
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: So next week.

562
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: It's so interesting Cleveland is actually they open as five

563
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: and a half point favorites and now they're now laying

564
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: upwards of six six and a half within the market.

565
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: So the public is all over to Cleveland Browns and

566
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: might be willing to go with the Raiders even though

567
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: they've taken a step back. Obviously Darren Wilda has been

568
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: hurt and this isn't the same team and we saw

569
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 4: with John Gruton, but I don't know how you can

570
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: lay points with this Cleveland Browns tea.

571
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I can't believe that line went up.

572
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: I had that as a possible hot rate, except that

573
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: the money is already coming on Cleveland and I like

574
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: the Raiders, So what's the rush? Like this might even

575
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: get to seven if we get lucky here.

576
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing just Saturday.

577
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: This has that we've talked about, this, that that ugly

578
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: that first playoff game feel. This has one of those

579
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: like ten to nine finals score disaster games written all over,

580
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: like the Raiders, please.

581
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: Please get to seven if this gets the seven cameraton

582
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: absolutely Yeah.

583
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: So this was our stink of the week. Brown's below

584
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: the two and a half point cover, winning twenty four

585
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: to twenty two on that play, just barely getting over

586
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: and blown cover on the under as well. It was

587
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: the total ended at forty four, so that late touchdown

588
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: got us to forty six and hit the over there

589
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: as well. So rough one for better is on that one.

590
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to make of this division.

591
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: We're not going to talk about it, but right now

592
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: the Ravens and Browns are basically even odds on the

593
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: division plus one sixty five Baltimore plus one seventy five

594
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: for Cleveland. Baltimore is a game up at eight and five,

595
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: but they're one and three in the division. Cincinnati Cleveland

596
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: are one game back Pittsburgh. Somehow, the Walking Zombies still

597
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: in the mix at six, six and one. I have

598
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: no idea. I know we'll come back to this division

599
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: again and again. All I really know is all four

600
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: of these teams are terrible, so somebody has to win

601
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: the division. Maybe we can get a couple of teams

602
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: into the playoffs here, but we're just gonna keep seeing

603
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: these very average teams play each other down the stretch.

604
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm really excited to see and even

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh they look like they they've kind of found something,

606
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: So I don't think you can necessarily count them out

607
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: the way they've been playing. This is going to come

608
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: down to the wire. And obviously at the end of

609
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: the day, you got all these divisional games. You've got

610
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: Cleveland seven and six, you got Cincinnati Bengals seventy seven

611
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: and six, and who knows what the status is on

612
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, so who knows what we.

613
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Speaker 1: See him next week.

614
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: That's definitely it's definitely the future.

615
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: I'm kind of I want to I want to look

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: at this division and see if we can find some value.

617
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: We might have to come back to this one on

618
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: one of our Fridays soon and see see if we

619
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Speaker 3: can figure out this one out. I agree Pittsburgh is live,

620
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: and uh there's a little a little spoiler lat we'll

621
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Speaker 3: be coming back to Pittsburgh when we get to the

622
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Speaker 3: hot Read one more game here before we get to

623
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Speaker 3: our Monday night preview. You're Dallas Cowboys in Washington twenty

624
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: seven to twenty, heroically covering the spread. This one closed

625
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: at six and a half. Washington gets the late touchdown

626
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: and misses the extra point to finish down seven and

627
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: cover all those Dallas covers, all that public Dallas money.

628
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Never should have been close though. Dallas was up eighteen

629
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: to nothing in the first quarter, twenty four to nothing

630
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: of the half and almost blew it. What'd you make up?

631
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: The Washington comeback? Here? Are you wearried it?

632
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: All? We saw this line actually opened up Cowboys minus five.

633
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 4: It got pushed down to about three and a half

634
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: before another sharp group actually hit it at three and

635
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: a half, pushing this line back up.

636
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: And then the public was all over the Cowboys.

637
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: Public in Vegas pushed this line all the way up

638
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: to six and a half, and of course you never

639
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: want to lay the worst of it. But I was

640
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: on the Cowboys today. In my contest, I think I

641
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: grabbed some four and a half. I got three and

642
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: a half. I really loved the Cowboys, but the offense

643
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: didn't impress me today. I think the defense was won

644
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: the game for them. The offense was really, really, really

645
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: disappointing to me. Dak Prescott through two interceptions. Obviously you

646
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: had Tyron Smith out with the injury, but Leo Collins

647
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: got hurt.

648
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: But this team really struggled in the red zone. They

649
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: were one for six in the red zon against this

650
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Washington defense, which is just thirtieth in EPA for play.

651
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: I expected this offense to do a lot more and

652
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: they just didn't.

653
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: They just didn't do it for me, like you can't

654
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: have all these result opportunities and find yourself kicking field goals.

655
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: It was just frustrating to watch. But at the same time,

656
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: you saw Mika Parsons on defense, like he's just doing everything.

657
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: And this Cowboys team, they had the defense to make

658
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: themselves a Super Bowl contender if they can get the

659
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: offense roll, and I think they're there, But right now,

660
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: the offense has just been stagnant for a while. And

661
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: I know you said that you had to do your

662
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: column that a lot of it had to do with injuries,

663
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: and I thought the same thing. But it's pretty clear

664
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: that there's something missing and I'm not sure what this.

665
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I thought this would be a get

666
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: right spot for the offense and they didn't get right back.

667
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: Didn't look good. I agree with you said. The story

668
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: of this game to me was the defensive line for

669
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, Michael Parsons and the Marcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory.

670
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: This was the first game all season that they three

671
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: played healthy together. Each one of those guys had at

672
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: least one sack and at least two quarterback hits. That

673
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: Treo finished with four sacks, six QB hits, an interception,

674
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: and two fumbles forced, one of which became a touchdown,

675
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: the winning touchdown basically, so that was the story of

676
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the game. Taylor Heinike's been putting up these great epas

677
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: and Cpoe's and all of our advanced metrics. Taylor Heineke

678
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: was hot garbage today. He was so bad. He was

679
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: eleven of twenty five for one hundred and twenty two

680
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: yards through an interception. He got sacked four times. Taylor

681
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Heineke is negative points sixty two EPA per play. He

682
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: finished with minus twenty two EPA. He didn't even play

683
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: the whole game. He missed like a quarter of the game.

684
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: And he was awful in this game. But he was

685
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 3: awful because he was under pressure all game. That defensive line,

686
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: that's a super Bowl defensive line, and the offense can

687
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: still be a super Bowl offense. They need to get

688
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: their line healthy. Get Tyron back out there to me.

689
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't mind that Wash came back here. I like

690
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: what I saw from Dallas. This is a team that

691
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm looking I'm looking at a BILO spot if I

692
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: can find one. I'm going to try to get a

693
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: spot and get some money in on the Cowboys. We

694
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: talked about them preseason. If I'm to look for another spot.

695
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: This is a team that I think is getting healthy

696
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: and is a real Super Bowl contender on both sides

697
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: of the ball.

698
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Speaker 4: Like, I want to go with you so bad, but

699
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: I just don't know if I can trust Mike McCarthy,

700
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: and I don't know if I can trust this offense

701
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 4: right now. I think Dak Prescott's really got to get

702
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: it together. I mean, he threw the crucial interception which

703
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: brought this within one score, and pretty much if they

704
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: make that extra point, Washington has a chance to get

705
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: the ball back and score and win the game, win

706
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: the gate after being down twenty four nothing. So you

707
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: just can't make type of throws like that, and I

708
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: think we've been seeing that so much through the last

709
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: couple of weeks with the Cowboys, and the run game

710
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: really isn't explosive right now. Ezekiel Elliott just twelve carries

711
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: forty five yards. Pollard wasn't out there, So I'm really

712
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: really worried about this Cowboys offense. I mean, look early rushes,

713
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: they had thirty six percent successful early past thirty seven

714
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: six thirty seven percent success rate when you look at

715
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: their success rated general, just thirty eight percent in pass

716
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: forty three percent in rushes. So it's just this offense

717
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: has to do a lot better. To me, If they can,

718
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 4: then I think this is a super Bowl caliber team.

719
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 4: But right now, you got to match point for point

720
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: with Tom Brady, you got to match point for point

721
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: for Aaron Rodgers, you got to match point for point

722
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: with Kyler Murray. That's that's the top three teams in

723
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: the in the NFC. It in my opinion, Yeah, I

724
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: think that that's true.

725
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: But I would say to that you the Cowboys have

726
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 3: the defense of those four teams that I would feel

727
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 3: best putting on the field right now. So a good

728
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: way to match point for point with those quarterbacks is

729
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 3: having a defense that can limit those quarterbacks, get after

730
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: those quarterbacks, and then get your team the ball back

731
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: in better field position. So I know, I guess I'm

732
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: a little more optimistic about your Cowboys than you but

733
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: we'll see.

734
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Are we sure we putting them? I mean, are we

735
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: really putting them over Tampa's defense?

736
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh?

737
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm definitely putting them over Tampa. I was considering Arizona

738
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: was the one that I might put ahead of them.

739
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: Tampa's defense not been that not secondary is very beautible.

740
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: So I do think the secondary is beatable. But I

741
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: think even when you look at a guy like Diggs,

742
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: Diggs is gonna get those interceptions, but he's gonna gamble,

743
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 4: and I think that's that's the issue I have with them.

744
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: I think Tampa Bays probably has the better pass rush

745
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: than the Cowboys. I think the secondaries are kind of

746
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: neck and neck, and I think that's why you saw

747
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: those two teams play so close. The Packers defense, I'm

748
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: not buying it at all. They lost a ton of

749
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: guys and somehow for a four or five weeks stretch

750
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: they got better, and we kind of we're seeing it

751
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: over the last couple weeks they kind of start to

752
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: come down to earth. So I mean, maybe you are right,

753
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: Maybe you're right, they probably weren't a better defense is

754
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: out of those top tier teams.

755
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: All I know is I'm really excited for the NFC playoffs.

756
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: I feel great about the Cardinals right now. We'll talk

757
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: about them shortly. In our Monday night preview, I talked

758
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: about you know, we like the Bucks. I like the Cowboys,

759
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: the Packers for what they are. They're getting all their

760
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: stars back healthy as soon. They're finally getting some of

761
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: these names Jery Alexander and Zadarius Smith and Bachtiari all

762
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: back soon. But those are the four best teams I

763
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: think in the NFL, and we get we're going to

764
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: get to see them probably play in the NFC Semis

765
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: and the NFC Conference Championship. So I'm looking forward to

766
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: the playoffs there.

767
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm really looking forward to it.

768
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 4: And I think one thing I want to say is

769
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: I actually want to look for a number on the

770
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: NFC to win a Super Bowl, because I think the

771
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: Super Bowls come out of NFC.

772
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm not really high on the AFC at all.

773
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: I think if you can get the NFC minus like

774
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: one ten or one sixteen, I think you've got to

775
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: take it.

776
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: Outside of Kansas City. There's not a team in the

777
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: AFC that I think will be favorite over a team

778
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC.

779
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: I don't think the Chiefs are favorite either, think any

780
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: of those four teams. We just talked about our favorite

781
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: over any AFC team, So yeah, I brought that up

782
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: like a month ago and as a possibility. And at

783
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: that point I think it was like the Titans were

784
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: the AFC team, and I remember who was supposed to

785
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: be good. Then now it's the Patriots, and maybe it's

786
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: the Chiefs again, maybe it was the Chiefs, and then

787
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: it wasn't the Chiefs, and now it's back to the Chiefs.

788
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like the NFC versus AFC. But you're

789
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting. Only a month four weeks of games left,

790
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 3: But let's wrap up the rest of Sunday's action here

791
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: for Week fourteen. The Bears play the perfect first half

792
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: Sunday Night, three long touchdowns. The game exploded for forty

793
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: two points in the second quarter to nearly hit the

794
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: over just in that quarter alone, but Aaron Rodgers did

795
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: what he does three hundred twenty one yards and four touchdowns.

796
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: Packers come from back down ten to win forty five

797
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: thirty and get the cover rough one ife you bet

798
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: the Bears plus eleven and a half. Chicago's up ten

799
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: on the second quarter and blows that they're down eighteen

800
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: with a minute a lot and kick the field goal

801
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: with a chance to get the cover. Come on, Matt Nagy.

802
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers still owns Chicago score Gammi. In Kansas City,

803
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs demolish the Raiders forty eight to nine. Story of

804
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: this game to me was kanas City's defense, not the

805
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: offense as much. Chiefs force five turnovers from Vegas, four

806
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: on the Raiders side of the field. This is the

807
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: sixth straight game the Chiefs of Hell and opponent under

808
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: eighteen points. Cam Newton got benched a second straight game

809
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: as the Panthers fall the Falcons twenty nine to twenty one.

810
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 3: Another short underdog win in Atlanta somehow in a tie

811
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: for the final playoff spot in the NFC. So glad

812
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: to see you. Atlanta. Saints pet the Jets thirty to

813
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: nine as al Alvin Kamara and turn armstreutter back games

814
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: stayed under the forty two and Taysom Hill starts are

815
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 3: now five and one to the under all six starts

816
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: at forty six points or less. Saints two are tied

817
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: for that last NFC wildcard spot. The Titans blank the

818
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Jaguars twenty to nothing in a game where neither offense

819
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: really showed up. Tennessee had the ball thirty seven minutes

820
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: and intercepted Trevor Lawrence four times, but only three point

821
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: eight yards per play, same as Jacksonville. Ugly game. Houston

822
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: hung around for three quarters, but the Seahawks pulled away

823
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: late for a thirty three to thirteen to win. Cover

824
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 3: and over. Seattle had eight plays of twenty two yards

825
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: or more. Russell Wilson starting to look a little more

826
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: healthy lately. Speaking of health, we did not know who's

827
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: gonna play for the Chargers or Giants all week long,

828
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 3: but La ended up getting most of their guys back

829
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: and rolled to a thirty seven to twenty one win

830
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: that wasn't even that close. Chargers eight and five now

831
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: one game back in the Division, one game back in

832
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: the AFC one seed, hosting the Chiefs Thursday night. That's

833
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: our next one coming up. That's gonna be a good one,

834
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: and an emotional Broncos team took the home field with

835
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: ten men in the huddle. On the first play to

836
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: honor Damarius Thomas, Denver crushed the lines thirty eight ten.

837
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: They've now covered all some of their wins so the

838
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: first win that did not go under for Denver thanks

839
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,720
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Speaker 3: eight yard drive in honor of number eighty eight. Beautiful

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00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,959
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Speaker 2: seven zero seven to one one seven in Michigan, one

869
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Speaker 2: eight hundred eight eight nine nine seven eight nine in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: One eight hundred bets off in Iowa or one eight

871
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Speaker 2: eight eight five three to two thirty five hundred in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: That's sink not available in Nevada. Thanks so much for listening.

873
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the show all right.

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00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: Monday night, We've got a second straight Big Division game,

875
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: a really good one. The Los Angeles Rams head to

876
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals are two and ane point favorites.

877
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: The Rams are plus one twenty to the money line,

878
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: and the total is that fifty one and a half.

879
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: We've got a good one. These are the two teams

880
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: that have battled a top of the division all year.

881
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: The Cardinals had a big win in LA earlier this

882
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: year thirty seven to twenty. That kind of flipped the

883
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: narrative on the division. What do you think, are the

884
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Cardinals gonna sweep the division here or are the Rams

885
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: gonna get the comeback?

886
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: This is a really tough game for me because look,

887
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: when you look at this number plus two and a half,

888
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: it says that this is a side where you should

889
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 4: be taking the Rams.

890
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not buying it. Like, who has this Rams

891
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: team beaten all year long?

892
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: They really haven't beaten anybody, Like obviously they beat Indianapolis,

893
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: they beat Tampa Bay, but for the most part, their

894
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: wins have come against the bottom feeders Houston, Detroit, the Giants,

895
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: a banged up Seattle team. And you look at Matthew Stafford,

896
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: how can we trust this guy? Like he hasn't really

897
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: truly bit healthy.

898
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm I'm kind of I'm.

899
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: Not gonna be playing this one. But if I did,

900
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: I would play the Arizona Cardinals. I think this is

901
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: a team that's just been rolling all season long, toping

902
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: offensive defense. So I think that's where I'm looking. What's

903
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: your thoughts in this game?

904
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams are on a really bad trajectory. I

905
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: think your decision on this game has to come down

906
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: to am I gonna play what I've seen from the

907
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: whole season or mag gonna play what I've seen from

908
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: the last six weeks, Because it's a very different answer

909
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: depending on which one of those you pick. The whole season,

910
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: We've got the Rams sixth in Dvoa Cardinals s fifth,

911
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: so they're basically equal. The Rams are top five on

912
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: offense in Dvoa Cardinals are number two on passing offense.

913
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: Sounds like a great matchup. That's the season numbers. But

914
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 3: now zoom in, So the Rams trajectory you talked about,

915
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: You talked about that. Just now Rams start out three

916
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: to zero. They're looking like a juggernaut. Just like every September,

917
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: every Sean McVay September, it's the Rams. They're gonna win

918
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year. And then while was Week four,

919
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: that's the Cardinals game thirty seven to twenty. I was

920
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: totally wrong on that. I was all over the Rams

921
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: in that game and I did not. It took me

922
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: like half the year to finally believe in this Cardinals team.

923
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: I believe now. They keep showing up, they keep coming through.

924
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: And so the Cardinals win that game thirty seven to twenty,

925
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: absolutely dominated them. And yeah, the Rams have done nothing

926
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: since then. Like you said, the wins are Seattle Giants, Lions, Texans,

927
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 3: and Jaguars. Just nothing nothing there. And the other three

928
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: games you did mention, the Titans, the Niners, and the

929
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: Packers not even competitive. They got crushed in all three

930
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: of those games. They were not even close to winning

931
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: any of those three. So what have we learned about

932
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: the Rams? Like they they're beating all these bad teams.

933
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: Those five we listed is basically the list of the

934
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: five teams eliminated from the playoffs. Like we got like

935
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: twenty seven teams still alive in the playoffs and then

936
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: five teams that the Rams have beaten, Like that's that's

937
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: the list, and they play anyone even kind of good,

938
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: Like the Titans aren't that great, The Niners are barely

939
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: in the playoff hnre now still but they're blowing the

940
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: Rams out basically, So why are the Rams even the favorite?

941
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: Like only within a couple of points here? Should the

942
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: Cardinals be favored by more? If it's this big of

943
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: a difference full.

944
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: Season numbers, I think two and a half is the

945
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: right number.

946
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: When I look at my model, just some models that

947
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: have Arizona first, Rams around fifth. So I mean they

948
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 4: did beat Tampa Bay, so that's going to push their

949
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: power rady up. But when I look at these two

950
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: teams from a football perspective, the Rams can't run the ball.

951
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: They can't run the ball, and then they probably lost

952
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: their second best receiver.

953
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I look at Cooper Cup and Robert Woods as one

954
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: A and one B can put them neck and neck.

955
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: They're both equally as important to the offense.

956
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: And you replace Robert Woods with the shell of Odell Beckham,

957
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: and what do you get?

958
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: And then you have a Matthew Stafford who's been banged up.

959
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: I just don't see how you could play this team

960
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: getting plus two and a half. Maybe, like I think,

961
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: if I'm looking at this game, maybe you play some

962
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: under maybe you'll get a defensive game as you typically

963
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: see a lot of these divisional games.

964
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: They tend to play tougher in the second matchup. I'm

965
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: not playing the Rams in the spot. I'm sorry. I

966
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: don't care how much sharp money is on the Rams.

967
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Arizona.

968
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mentioned that the big picture versus the

969
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: recent sixth weeks. So here's the last six weeks. The

970
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: Rams over the past six weeks by EPA expected points

971
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: added are only ahead of four teams in the entire NFL.

972
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: Their offense ranks twenty eighth in EPA over the last

973
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: six weeks. And yeah, they lost Robert Woods. They haven't

974
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: been totally healthy. Guys, it's football, like there are injuries.

975
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: You gotta roll with the punches. Guess who else had injuries?

976
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: The Cardinals. They're missing Kyler Murray for three weeks. He

977
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: was hurt in the fourth one of those. They're missing

978
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: Donder Hopkins for three of those. The Cardinals in EPA

979
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: the last six weeks, during all of those injuries, I

980
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: just said, our second in the NFL and EPA, the

981
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: number two on offense despite missing Kyler Murray for three

982
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: of those games. And it's a bye week, and it's

983
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: an ugly rain game in Chicago with Kyler's return, and

984
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 3: there's an injury game Kyler against Green Bay.

985
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the whole six weeks.

986
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: And there's still second in EPN offense number one and

987
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: passing offense, and the Rams are twenty eighth. So it's

988
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: a problem if you look at just the last six weeks,

989
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: this is not a two and a half point line.

990
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: This is a really good Super Bowl contending team playing

991
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: a team that basically grades out like the Jets or

992
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: the Texans or the Jaguars. Like that's how bad the

993
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: numbers are right now. Matt Stafford. We talk about EPA

994
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: and plus completion over expectation as a good way to

995
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: kind of rate quarterbacks overall. Out of thirty three quarterbacks

996
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: the last six weeks, Matt Stafford ranks thirtieth. He's ahead

997
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: of Tyrod Taylor, Trevor Samion, and Trevor Lawrence. That's it.

998
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: Matt Stafford has been terrible. That we've got reports is

999
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: not healthy. We know that the Rams aren't healthy. We

1000
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: know they can't run the ball, which would be nice

1001
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: here because the Cardinals run defense have been very beatable lately.

1002
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: So I really like the Cardinals here. I would This

1003
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: actually would have been one of my favorite plays of

1004
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: the week, except that there's a lot of trappiness about this.

1005
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: We're seeing all that sharp money come in. There are

1006
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: a lot of trends here. We've seen short road dogs

1007
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: be great this season. Mcveighs three one and a one

1008
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: against the spread against Cliff Kingsbury. So I'm being a

1009
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: little cautious here just because this is such a big

1010
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 3: moment here for the Rams. But by what I'm seeing

1011
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: from these teams, the Cardinals are just so much better

1012
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: right now.

1013
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you.

1014
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: Like I think sometimes Joeah Public wins too, and I

1015
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: think we saw a lot of that on Sunday, and

1016
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: I think that could possibly continue here. So sometimes you

1017
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: got to you got to recognize when maybe the Sharps

1018
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: are run, the Sharps are going to lose forty percent

1019
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: of the time or so, So this could be one

1020
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: of those spots. I'm personally not gonna play it, but

1021
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna play it. Play the game did

1022
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: Roadway Arizona?

1023
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna play it. I'm betting the Cardinals.

1024
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: I'll take him at two or two and a half

1025
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: if it gets to three. I think it's maybe a

1026
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: little bit too late. You'll want that key number involved there.

1027
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: But to me, this game feels a little bit like

1028
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: what I thought on Sunday Dallas against Washington. It was

1029
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: a close line at least opening. I thought Dallas was

1030
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 3: a way better team, totally different universe, and it looked

1031
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: that way for most of the game. Campa and Buffalo

1032
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. I thought the Bucks were

1033
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: just a much better complete team, and it looked a

1034
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: part for the first half. Again, things came back late.

1035
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: So I just think in this game, the Cardinals are

1036
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: the complete team. They're the team that's playing well right now.

1037
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: They're the team that actually, with all the other teams

1038
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: that have been are they really good. I don't know.

1039
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: The Cardinals just somehow proved that they were by winning

1040
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: even without their top players, and no one really seemed

1041
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: to notice. So I think Arizona is gonna win this game.

1042
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have to really take them seriously

1043
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: after they do, so I wouldn't be surprised too if

1044
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: they win this relatively comfortably. I'm just not sure that

1045
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: Matt Stafford is ready to go on the road and

1046
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: get a big win. Here. When has he done that

1047
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: ever in his career? Is just not a thing that

1048
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: he does playing well against you know, good teams in

1049
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: a great team in this case, So you're gonna pass

1050
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 3: or Lean Cardinals. I'm gonna play the Cardinals. I'll take

1051
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: a shot here. I feel good about Arizona. I lost

1052
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: a lot of money betting against Arizona the first half

1053
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: of the year. I need to get it back now.

1054
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: I think Arizona is a good team. So let's get

1055
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: to our Week fifteen hot read before we get you

1056
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: out of here.

1057
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: Hot ice rights, ice cream.

1058
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go first here. I'm gonna go with a

1059
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: pick that has been tried and true that you've hurt

1060
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: a lot of this year. I'm taking Mike Tomlin and

1061
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers as an underdog because they keep giving

1062
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: him to us an underdog, and I'm gonna keep on

1063
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: taking them. Pittsburgh is home against the Tennessee Titans. If

1064
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: you've listened at all this year, you know we have

1065
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: been awaiting for spots to bet against Tennessee the entire year.

1066
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: This is a great spot to do it. Mike rabel

1067
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: in toss up Games eight thirteen and a one against

1068
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: the spread, including one and two this year. So not

1069
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: a good spot there, And Mike Tomlin, that's who you

1070
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: want to back as an underdog. Mike Tomlin forty three,

1071
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: twenty two and two against the spread as an underdog,

1072
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 3: sixty six percent cover rate, including five and three this year.

1073
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: Even better Week five forward Mike Tomlin as an underdog

1074
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: thirty five and thirteen against the spread, seventy two percent

1075
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 3: hit rate. Even better, Mike Tomlin as a home underdog

1076
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: thirteen and three against the spread eighty one percent hit rate,

1077
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: and the last five times he's won outright as a

1078
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: home underdog. So I'm on the Steelers here. I know

1079
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: the Titans just won a shutout today. It's against the Jaguars.

1080
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: They averaged under four yards of play Tennessee dead, they

1081
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: won the tone of a battle, they won time possession.

1082
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: Not impressive to win twenty ninhering over Jacksonville. I got Pittsburgh.

1083
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: I don't play the money line. I think Pittsburgh wins

1084
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: us on.

1085
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: I like backing them in this spot. But me, anytime

1086
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: you can get Pittsburgh as an underdog, especially against a

1087
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 4: Titans team, and really, just to me, they lack of identity.

1088
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: They don't have Derrick Henry. Obviously, AJ Brown's been banged up.

1089
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: Julio's in the lineup, but he's not the same guy.

1090
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: So I like the spot for Pittsburgh.

1091
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: We talked about this earlier. If we're right, if Pittsburgh

1092
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: does get this win, that could be a good spot

1093
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: to bet Pittsburgh to make the playoffs, maybe even to

1094
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: win the division. They go to Baltimore to end the season,

1095
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: so that could be a spot where they have a

1096
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: chance to win and get in. And it might be

1097
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: a spot to fave Tennessee, who is starting to fall

1098
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: the Colts that have quietly moved into playoff positioning. So

1099
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: I don't have to check the odds on this. But

1100
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: if we're right that Pittsburgh gets the win here, they

1101
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: really flip things for both of these teams. So interesting

1102
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: to see there. I mentioned the Colts. I think that

1103
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: is your hot read this week. Tell me about the Colts.

1104
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: Okay, when you look at this New England Patriots team,

1105
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: they finally reached the up of the market.

1106
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: I know they won seven straight games, but look at

1107
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: who those games have come against. They come against the

1108
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: New York Jets, the Los Angeles Chargers, who were struggling

1109
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: in the midst of they were just getting dominated at

1110
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: the time. The Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns with a banged

1111
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: up Baker Mayfield, Atlanta Falcons, Tennessee Titans. Obviously they beat Buffalo,

1112
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: but they beat Buffalo in at a time where you

1113
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: had severe weather conditions in the win.

1114
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: And when you look at this New England defense, they

1115
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: could be passed the ball. I just think New England

1116
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 4: has found themselves in good situational spots. Even look at

1117
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: that Buccaneers game and somehow it's just I don't know

1118
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 4: what Belichick does to the weather, but it was raining. Look,

1119
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 4: I think this Indianapolis Coast team is probably the best

1120
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: team they faced in months.

1121
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: And they can run the ball, they can pass the ball,

1122
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: they have a solid defense. I think this is the

1123
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: come down to Earth moment for the New England Patriots.

1124
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: They finally drop a game. So I'm taking the Colts

1125
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: at plus two. This lot probably won't even be there,

1126
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: so I think I gotta take this.

1127
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: Now, hold on, you said that you think this is

1128
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: the hardest team that the Patriots have played in a month.

1129
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: They just played the Bills six days ago. You think

1130
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: the Colts are better than the Bills right now.

1131
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I do.

1132
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. I think the Colts

1133
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: are the best, the second best team in AMSC, behind

1134
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 4: the Patriots, No, behind the Chiefs and the Chiefs. Okay,

1135
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 4: all right, well that's very interesting.

1136
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: I do.

1137
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: I like the matchup here for the Colts run game.

1138
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: The Patriots are a team that you can run on,

1139
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: so I like that matchup. The Colts can win in

1140
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: the trenches. Interesting too, these teams are both on the

1141
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: bye week this morning, Sunday morning. Patriots are favored in

1142
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: this game minus one, and it's now at Colts minus one,

1143
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: minus one and a half at most books. So even

1144
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: with both teams off, like we always expect the lines

1145
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 3: to shift around on a Sunday, these teams didn't play.

1146
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: Nothing happened, But people are. The money's coming in already

1147
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: on Indianapolis anyway, So it's a very interesting spot here.

1148
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1149
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: I love the Colts in the spot. I just think

1150
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: at some point New England has to come down to earth.

1151
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 4: Second straight role game, give me Indianapolis. I think the

1152
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: Colts are a complete team. There's a part of me

1153
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: that wants to put a future in on them, but

1154
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 4: I'm a sit tight.

1155
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I really do like the

1156
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Colts too, I'm looking for a spot to back them.

1157
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: AFC playoff race is really fascinating though, because I really

1158
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: like the Colts, who just finally now are in the

1159
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 3: wildcard spot they weren't before Sunday. The Chargers we both

1160
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: like a lot at times. They're in the wild card spot.

1161
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: The Bills, I think are the last wild card right now.

1162
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: All three of those teams are very live playoff teams.

1163
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a decent chance that either the Colts

1164
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: or Bills, who I believe could win the AFC. I

1165
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 3: feel like one of those two teams is gonna miss

1166
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs because the playoff picture is so congested. The

1167
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: Colts need this game against the Patriots. They like they

1168
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: might not make the playoffs they don't win this game,

1169
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: So New England plays I think Indy and then Buffalo

1170
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: the next two, and these are really tough teams that

1171
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: could win the AFC. It's gonna be really interesting to

1172
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: see the Patriots can can like make their own playoff

1173
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: path easier if they can sort of knock these teams

1174
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: maybe out of the playoffs.

1175
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I just think at some point they gotta come down

1176
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: to earth.

1177
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of coming down to earth, I'm gonna do I'm

1178
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: gonna commit treason on my other hot read our last

1179
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: highway for the day. I'm gonna fade my own Minnesota Vikings.

1180
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm playing both teams out of that Thursday night game

1181
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota comes to Chicago, my hometown Chicago area. Here, the

1182
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: Bears are four and a half point home underdogs, and

1183
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: I just think that that's insane. I don't know if

1184
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: this line is gonna move heavily in either direction, but

1185
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: this century the Bears when they play the Vikings, so

1186
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: of course they play every year. The Bears have won

1187
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: sixteen of twenty one times in Chicago against the Vikings.

1188
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: This is the one spot. If you're a Vikings fan,

1189
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: you don't need any of the numbers. You know. We

1190
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: lose in Chicago. That's how it goes. It doesn't matter

1191
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: who's good, who's bad, doesn't matter what happens, the Vikings

1192
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: lose in Chicago. Twelve of these twenty one games are

1193
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: one score games. A million percent of Vikings games are

1194
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: one score games. Eleven I think games in a row

1195
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: right now are one score games are eleven out of

1196
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: the twelve. The Vikings this entire century have won in

1197
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: Chicago by more than a field goal one time once

1198
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: the entire century against the Bears, who are terrible every year,

1199
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: and last year is when they did it against Nick

1200
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: Foles and they needed a touchdown the last five minutes

1201
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: just to beat stupid Nick Foles on the road. The

1202
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: Vikings are terrible in the spot. It's Monday night, We're

1203
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: probably gonna get some weather. Is just going to be

1204
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: one of those wonky like anything can go games, and like,

1205
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: look what we saw from Chicago tonight. Look we see

1206
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: for Minnesota. Literally every single game is going to come

1207
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: down to things late. I don't know if I'll bet

1208
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: Chicago on the money line about four and a half.

1209
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: Come on, don't be crazy here. I gotta take the

1210
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: points in Chicago at home against the Vikings.

1211
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Look this Vikings team, David, because because.

1212
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: All year long they can grab leads, but they really

1213
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 4: can't stop anybody. And I think Justin Field showed us

1214
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: some stuff tonight. I don't really trust Naggy, but I

1215
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: just think this is too many points. I think this

1216
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: is a game that possibly the Bears could possibly win

1217
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: this game outright, So I agree with you here. For me,

1218
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna go with the Kansas City Chiefs.

1219
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

1220
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: I think the reason this game stands out to me

1221
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: is because these two teams they met in Week three.

1222
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were laying six and a half. Now we're

1223
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: down to three, and if you ask me, from that moment,

1224
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: these two teams have gone into two different directions. Kansas

1225
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: City Chiefs are by far the better team. They have

1226
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: the better defense at this point in time, and you

1227
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: look at the charges they've been dealing with injuries to everybody,

1228
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: so this team can't really stop anybody defensively. And obviously

1229
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: you saw some sharp money hit the.

1230
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: Giants this week, and a lot of that had to

1231
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: deal with the number and the fact that even Mike

1232
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: people believe that Mike Glennon could actually go out there

1233
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 4: and cover ten points against this Chargers team. They were

1234
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: missing Mike Allen, missing Keenan Allen. This team's had COVID outbreaks. Defensively,

1235
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: they could be run on, they could be passed on.

1236
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: I just think this number is way too short for

1237
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: where these two teams are now. Obviously, the Chiefs haven't

1238
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: really figured out things offensively, but I think their defense

1239
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: could do enough to slow down this Chargers team.

1240
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: They can win this game by field goal. Just some

1241
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: spots putting this.

1242
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: Line at three and a half, but at three minus

1243
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: one twenty, I'm all over the Chiefs in this spot.

1244
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: I think they're making a push for the playoffs.

1245
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: That's an interesting one. I definitely am excited to watch

1246
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: this game. This was one and when I looked out

1247
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: hat on the lines that I don't have a good

1248
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: ready on this game, I have to look more into it.

1249
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: I do, though. I like the spot. I like betting

1250
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: against the Chargers in LA because we know there's no

1251
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: home field advantage. There is going to be Chiefs fans

1252
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: in the stands in that game, like it's going to

1253
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: be a Chiefs home game basically. So until the Chargers

1254
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: fix that problem, we're going to keep getting these kind

1255
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 3: of like fake home field line advantages. So you're getting

1256
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: like if this was in Kansas City, this is nowhere

1257
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: near three points spread for Kansas City, like it's way

1258
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 3: higher in Arrowhead. So I think that the home you know,

1259
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: it's not the same as playing Airhead in LA. I

1260
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: think you're getting a little bit of extra points there

1261
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 3: on the spread, so I like the angle there, and yeah,

1262
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: it's interesting I picked the Chargers to beat the Chiefs

1263
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: back when they pulled that upset. That was one of

1264
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: my favorite upsets of this year. And then that started

1265
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: this whole cover too, the two deep safety thing that

1266
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: was kind of started out of that Staly defense that game.

1267
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: But this is a very different Chiefs team now, and

1268
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing them run the ball, we're seeing them defend,

1269
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: and suddenly I'm not sure if the Chargers match up

1270
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: quite as well as I like them the first time around.

1271
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: So I don't have a good read on that one.

1272
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: I definitely am not excited about the three and a

1273
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: half that's all that's available. But if you've got a

1274
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: three out there, I don't hate that one.

1275
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't want to lay three and a half.

1276
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: But I just don't trust this Chargers team at this point,

1277
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: so I kind of got to fade them, and I

1278
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: think this is a good spot to fade them.

1279
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to.

1280
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: Like for me, I'm not I'm not touching a backup

1281
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: quarterback with the Giants on the Chargers. I know there

1282
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: was some sharp money on it, but I just think

1283
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 4: in today's NFL, you've got to have a capable quarterback,

1284
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: and I just wasn't willing to do it, but I

1285
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: think in this spot, I'm all over the Chiefs.

1286
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, we got a fun week. I had some good

1287
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: weeknight football action Rams Cardinals on a Monday night, Chiefs

1288
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: Chargers on a Thursday night. Clear your schedules, get rid

1289
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: of those ball games. We got real big boy football

1290
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: Monday and Thursday this week, two really big playoff picture games.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to watch those and I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: be back Friday to talk about the week fifteen slate.

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Speaker 3: Hit you ready for everything there that is going to

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Speaker 3: wrap it up today at the Action Network Podcast. Ever,

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Speaker 3: get to rate, subscribe, and review if you haven't yet,

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Speaker 3: come back Wednesday night for Stucky and Raybah with their

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Speaker 3: NFL Betting Guide six pack. And like I said, Raheem

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Speaker 3: and I are back Friday. We'll get you some look

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Speaker 3: ahead picks and we'll run through the week fifteen slate

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Speaker 3: and get those big games in there. Forhem Palmer. I'm

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Speaker 3: Brandon Anderson and this has been the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Were on to Week fifteen