1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: And some of our seniors have cognitive deficits, and so 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the kids are actually mentors to them. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: So like our preschool class just a few weeks ago 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: did an Easter egg where they had to had to 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: match the colors, and we have a lady that isn't 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: able to do that anymore, and these preschoolers go and 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: they're helping her. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like completely flipped. 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: But like that that empathy and compassion and that's they 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: don't question that because. 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: They know her and they know that she can no 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: longer do that. They also know that she has a 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: story where she used to be able to do that. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? She used to be 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: a teacher, and I do. I do a lot. 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Actually, how could you not watch it? 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: It is and it's natural, it's very natural. Like a 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of those things I don't plan, They just happen. 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: And even in my sketch books, I didn't sketch those things. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: They just are When you put people together and they're 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: actually building relationships, beautiful things happen. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney. 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father. 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach in 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: inner city Memphis, and the last part it somehow led 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: to an oscar for the film about our team. That 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: movie is called Undefeated. Guys, I believe our country's problems 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: will never be solved by a bunch of fancy people 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: in nice suits using big words that nobody ever uses 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: on sinon and box, but rather by an army of 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: normal folks. That's us, just you and me, deciding hey, 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: maybe I can help. That's what Aaron Steele, the voice 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: you just heard, has done. Aaron is the founder of 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the Heritage Home, an intergenerational senior living facility and childcare 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: center in Alma, Kansas, which basically means she's combined a 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: nursing home and a childcare center into one place, and 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: there's all kinds of benefits for the seniors and for 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: the kids being with one another every day, which I 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: cannot wait for you to hear about right after these 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: brief messages from our general sponsors. Aaron Steel, Welcome to Memphis. 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: Thank you from where do you hail? 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm from Wamego, Kansas, which okay, kind of in between 44 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: Tapeaka and Manhattan. 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we should do a hea hal salut 46 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: when we say one mego, how me go? 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: That's right. 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: How many folks live in Onemigo, Kansas. 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know, maybe five thousand somewhere around there, so. 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Have a small area. Hou's flight in flew in, right, yep, just. 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So I've seen it all. 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I'm glad Alex picked you up. Sometimes 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: he makes guess take ubers or he is laid. 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: He made it very easy on me, Yes, yeah he did. 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Maybe he's improving at his job. What do you think 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: it was only the one time I hear I bought 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: that car stopped working one month. Then yeah, that's one 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: of the guests that I had an uber from the airport. 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's because he bought a hooptie that didn't work. 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: Well, CarMax A good impression. 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Quite embarrassing, really, I love it. So Aaron, who is 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: Anita Morn. 63 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: So I was actually telling him I don't actually know her. 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: I think she knows my brother that lives in western Kansas. 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: So here's here's what we got on April seventeenth to 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, which means it took Alex a whole 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: year to get you here, so nice job. Way to 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: work on it quickly. Good job, Alex. 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: The first note was just singing our praises you Google. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: Oh read that first though, because it's good. Oh okay. 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: March twenty seven, twenty twenty five, see you jumped on it. 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Nice job out. Anita Maran is a listener and she 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: just said thanks to the micro podcast for introducing us. 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I was on Mike's podcast or Mike was online. We 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: were on both, but I don't know what she listened to. 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: And she said, I've become addicted to your podcast. So Anita, 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: thank you for your addiction. I hope it's healthy. Then 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: on March twenty seventh, Anita said, I am attaching a 79 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: video to this message about a woman who has started 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: the Heritage Home in a small town here in Kansas. 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: I really don't know her, but her brother works for us, 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 2: and we all know about the family and the Heritage Home. 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: Her family is big boy, that's an understatement. We'll get 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: to that in a minute. And they have a beautiful 85 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: life story, one worth listening to please enjoy. And we 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: watched that video and we said, yep, we got to 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: get air into Memphis. So that's for our listeners to 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: kind of introduce how we know you. I think Germaine 89 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: to the story is certainly how you grew up. Why 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: don't you take us to that chaos. It may not 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: have been chaos, but when I read about it, I 92 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: think it's chaos because that many people in one household 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: is insanity to me. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: For me, it was just normal. I grew up in 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: the family. 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I was number twelve of eighteen, so I mean that's 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: just that was life for me. 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: I didn't know any different. 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: No twins, same two parents. 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: Same two parents. That's right. 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: My mom wanted a dozen babies, and my dad just 102 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: really liked my mom and said, okay, whatever. 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: You want, honey. 104 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: Eight teens, eighteen kids, all right. When I read that 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: and then watched the video of you and thought of it, 106 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: how many bedrooms were in your home? 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: So we had well, the boys had like what we 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: called a dormitory in the basement, so I mean literally 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: it was a big, huge, open room that they just 110 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: had beds, and that was pretty much. 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: If you were a senior in high school, you got 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: your own room in the basement. 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: So there was that when you were a senior and 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: got your own room, and then the girls. We had 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: three rooms upstairs that we shared, and then we had 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: a study that we've turned into a room. 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: There was a bed and living room. 118 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: You know, what did your father and mother do for Well, 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: your mother had to have just raised children. There's no 120 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: way to work outside the home with eighteen kids as there. 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: She pretty much did until she did start working when 122 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: my youngest brother, well actually my second youngest brother was born, 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: she started working. But my dad was a postmaster and 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: then my mom. 125 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: I mean a good living, sure, but eight how do 126 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: you feed that many people? 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. 128 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: They my dad went to the store every single day 129 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: for bread and milk. He would stop at the store 130 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: after work, that is true. Yeah, and there were times 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: you knew, you know that we were waiting for a 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: paycheck because we might have ham and beans for four days. 133 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, for the most part, they just did 134 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: whatever they had to do. My mom also did work. 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: She would do like. 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Evenings and nights, you know what I mean, to kind 137 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: of supplement or she that's how she paid for Christmas. 138 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: And I think on that web, I think on that 139 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: video there were pictures of you as a kid with 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: some of your siblings that had to have been I 141 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: mean you say, for you, it was what you knew, 142 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: so it was normal, but you had to have known. 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Nobody else was one of eighteen. But it looked like 144 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 2: you guys were thickest thieves and just had a cool 145 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: life together. 146 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: We absolutely, I mean we were very close. We fought 147 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: like normal siblings. I mean I had my moments that 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: like my sister that was four years younger than me, 149 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I hated her, you know when I was in high 150 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: school and she was middle school. I mean we had 151 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: all those but for the most part, we were very 152 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: close and your best friends were your siblings. And it's 153 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: still kind of that way. There was always someone to 154 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: play with, always someone to do something with. 155 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: You know, what was the spread? What's the youngest of 156 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: the oldest, Like when the youngest was one? How old 157 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: was the oldest? 158 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Let's see, I think Jimmy's the oldest, and he would 159 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: have been, well, he's fifty fifty six, fifty seven, don't 160 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: quote me, and Tigan's. 161 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Thirty twenty yeah, twenty six years. 162 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: She had one every year until me and then stir breastfeeding. 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: Then it's every other year that intil the last two 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: are a little spread. 165 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Apart, but that is on the Anybody ever suggest your 166 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: mom and dad to get. 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: A hobby, well that was usually the joke growing up. 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: That was usually what everybody said to me, you know. 169 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: But you know, I my mom was Catholic, my dad converted, 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: so you know, they had their beliefs that way. But 171 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: my mom always wanted a dozen kids. And like I said, 172 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: my mom pretty much got what she wanted. And my 173 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: dad just said, okay. 174 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: Did she drive a school bus? I mean, how in 175 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: the world. 176 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: We had around stretched blue van and literally, I mean 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: it was it was a stretch van. 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: We and we'd just pile out. We the high schooler 179 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: would drop, you know, make all the stops at the schools. 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: And I bet, I bet pileout. I just died when 181 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: they saw y'all comment. 182 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Yep. When we traveled, we would sleep on the floorboards. 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: That's old school. 184 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we didn't have like I was fine. 185 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: My mom would hold one up front and be several 186 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: of us laying on the floorboards and. 187 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's just it seems to me growing up 188 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: like that though, as tight and piled down on top 189 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: of each other. You have to be with all the 190 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: love and everything else that has to be inherent in 191 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: a home like that. You do have to develop a 192 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: sense of understanding of the people next to you, some 193 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: empathy and that kind of thing. I mean, am I 194 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: grasping there or do you think that's right? Yeah? 195 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: I absolutely think that's right. I think the biggest thing 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: you learn is you can't be selfish. Nothing is really 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: ever just about you. So you kind of learn at 198 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: a very young age to give to others, you know 199 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, You share everything, and if you don't, then. 200 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: There's seventeen others that don't like you. 201 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there was a time where you 202 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: try to hoard, like cookies or things like that. But 203 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean we from a very young age you shared 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: everything you had. You didn't get everything you wanted. We 205 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: passed on things. That's just what we learned, and I 206 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: think we all have those qualities as adults because of that. 207 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: I think that's so healthy. 208 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: It absolutely is. 209 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: As a mom, I only have three children, so trying 210 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to teach those lessons to your kids when maybe they 211 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: could have what they want. 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 3: But we just learned it naturally. We didn't get everything 213 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: we wanted. 214 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, there was a time I felt very jaded 215 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: because of that, you know, like during your selfish year 216 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: is probably middle school, high school. But then now I'm like, 217 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like I see how much that made 218 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: me into the person I am. 219 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: Now I love that. So we have four and four 220 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: years and I've always thought that was chaos until I 221 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: heard your story, and now I know we're just pikers. 222 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: But one of my things was even when my business 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: started doing well, and certainly I wouldn't describe what we 224 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: became as rich, but we started making a nice living 225 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: and we bought a bigger house with a couple of acres. Well, 226 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: that's a lot of grass, and it was all landscape. 227 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of grass, it's a lot of mold, 228 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: it's a lot of trimming, it's you know, Lisa Love's ivys. 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: We had an ivy all over the place, which is 230 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: the biggest nightmare in the world because you have to 231 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: cut it every week. A lot of edging. I had 232 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: four able bodied human beings that can run along more 233 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: and a weed eater and clipper and bend over and 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: put crapping bags. And Sunday after church was yard day. Period. 235 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: That was it because Saturday kids are playing sports and 236 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: all that, and listen, after running a business coaching football team, 237 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: I assure you there were some sundays after church I 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: would have love to have just sat down and had 239 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: a beer and watched football or something, but that wasn't 240 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: the deal. And I remember when Molly, who is my 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: second child, was eleven or twelve that age, she comes 242 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: around a corner driving a hefty dragging a hefty bag 243 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: full of grass clippings, and she is sweating and her 244 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: face is red and her lips are pierced, and she 245 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: is angry as hell, and she looks at me in 246 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: this nice neighborhood that I've moved my family in, it says, 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: why can't we just have a ard man like normal people? 248 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: And I said, honey, the very question is why we 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: don't have a yard man. Now today, my grown children, 250 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: who are thirty twenty nine to twenty eight twenty seven, 251 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: all tell me they will never have a yard man. 252 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: The children will not have phones until they're sixteen, they 253 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: will not have video games, and they will go outside 254 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: and skin their knees and bust their lip and sweat 255 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: and have those problems. Because as bad as they hatedly 256 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: send me at those days at that age. They now 257 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: know that that was the very best way for them 258 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: to grow up. They all plan on raising their children 259 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: the same way. How do you raise yours? 260 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: You know, I just put family first. 261 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of how I grew up, and 262 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of natural, like we always 263 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: did things together as a family, and my kids kind 264 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: of have grown up that way, whether it's their cousins 265 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: or their And I think, yeah, work ethic is a huge, 266 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: huge thing, like, you know, we'll get into the business, 267 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: but my kids literally helped us do everything in that 268 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: to get it going. 269 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 3: They will kind of tease the first year we bought it, 270 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: their phrase was, I can't my mom bought a nursing home. Can't. 271 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: We can't go on naication, We can't this, We can't that, 272 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: you know. But what they're learning from that experience is 273 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: far greater than. 274 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: One of the dues and don'ts of an interview is 275 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: never ask a question you don't know the answer to, 276 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: because you might get thrown off guard. I did not 277 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: know the answer to the question that I asked you 278 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: just now, but I absolutely suspected it. Given the way 279 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: you grow up, what you're doing now, so it's not surprising, 280 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: but I think it's beautiful. And now a few messages 281 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: from our general sponsors. But first, our next live interview 282 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: in Memphis will be on June twelfth with Father Mark Hannah. 283 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: Father Mark and a team of four other civilians saved 284 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: over fifty lives on nine to eleven and the rest 285 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: of his team died while trying to save more people. 286 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: After nine to eleven, Mark became a Coptic priest and 287 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: hence the father title. It's part of our lunch and 288 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: listen series that we've been doing at Crosstown Concourses Myphis 289 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Listening Lab and you can learn more and RSVP at 290 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Fathermark dot Eventwright dot com. We hope to see you there. 291 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. So congratulations on your family. So 292 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: what'd you do? You left the family of eighteen and 293 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: you go get You wanted to be in something and 294 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: you did something else. Take me through that stage of life. 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: And sure all that my youngest brother has down syndrome. 296 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: So I was very intrigued in special education. The last one, 297 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: the last one, the very last one, which was he 298 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: had some health condition also, and so the doctor said 299 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: no more, surely, no more kids than you can't, which 300 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: is why she probably stopped. But otherwise, so he I 301 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: always kind of had a passion for that, and so 302 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: in high school I kind of shadowed in a special 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: ed classroom and did that and loved it, and that's 304 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of what I thought. I wanted to do special education. 305 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Uh huh, kind of go be a teacher. I was 306 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: supposed to startcase State and live with my sister, which 307 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: maybe would have not been a great thing because we 308 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: got into some trouble together, but nonetheless I found it. 309 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I was pregnant a couple of weeks before I was 310 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: supposed to startcase Dates, so I kind of changed trajectories. 311 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: And then when I had my daughter, I remember kind 312 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: of being like, well, I have my daughter, and I 313 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: watched my sister have a kid, and I was like, 314 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: I want to be that's what I want to do. 315 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: I want to be a nurse. 316 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: And so I kind of changed what I what my 317 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: plan was and decided I want to be a nurse, 318 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be an OB nurse. And I've 319 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: never been an OB nurse, but. 320 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: That's you know, and you married your sweetheart, yeah, yes, yes. 321 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: So my husband and I started dating when we were 322 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: junior and senior who he happened to be my brother's 323 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 1: best friend. 324 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: And not going did your brother take that? He went 325 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: running and he didn't speak to us for about them month. 326 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: Really is that right? Then? 327 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: He's our you know, my daughter's godfather, and he was 328 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: my husband's best man. 329 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: But he didn't he didn't take it very well at all. 330 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so even in a family of eighteen, big 331 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: brothers are still being big brother. 332 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and he was pretty protective anyway. 333 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: So but yeah, so then. 334 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,359 Speaker 2: Where did your husband live? By the way, it was pretty. 335 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: Close across the street from us. 336 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: Well that made it too convenient. 337 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: It was a little too convenient. 338 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, when there's eighteen people in 339 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: this house and only a couple over here, there's a 340 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: pretty good place to go hang out. 341 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Actually our first kiss. All of my siblings were hiding. 342 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all of them, not all of them. 343 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: There was a handful of my little sisters. 344 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: They'll tell the story. They were sitting kind of behind 345 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: the bushes, like. 346 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: There's no way all of your siblings said behind a bush, 347 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: there's bush big enough. There's no big enough bush. Todd seventeen, 348 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: So this is high school neighborhood sweetheart. Yep. 349 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: So we got married then a year our daughter was 350 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: thirteen months old when we got married. 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: Got it. 352 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: He he got a job for West Star. It's kind 353 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: of an energy He worked at a power plant. And 354 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: that kind of allowed me. 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 3: To go to school. 356 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: And you became a nurse. 357 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: I became a nurse. 358 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've I kind of started, you know, along 359 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: the track of med surge, which they kind of recommend, 360 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, get your experience. 361 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of different things. 362 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Probably the most paralleled to what drew me to Obi 363 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: was like, I was a hospice nurse for four years 364 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: and I loved that. I was very passionate about it, 365 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: which I kind of bring into what I do now. 366 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, hospice is the idea is six months or 367 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: less to live. But you know, for me working with elderly, 368 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, you might get a year or two. You know, 369 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: you get to spend yes, you get to spend their 370 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: final days typically with them and hopefully make them meaningful, 371 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: not just six months. 372 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: All right, So now let's let the listeners in on this. 373 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 2: You are the founder of Heritage Home, which is something 374 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: I've never read before, and I'm gonna get there. Just 375 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: you sit over in hush, gosh, just sit there and 376 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: push buttons and make the sound right. All right. You're 377 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: the founder of Heritage Home and Intergenerational Senior Living Facility 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: and Childcare Center and Alma, Kansas. So we're gonna say that, okay, 379 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: and just let that marinate. I'm gonna say it again, 380 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Intergenerational Senior Living Facility and Childcare Center in Alma, Kansas. 381 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Now we'll just let that marinate. What yeahoo, take us. 382 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: So I after hospice, I started kind of working in 383 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: senior care, you know, so nursing, your traditional nursing homes. 384 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: I worked in several of those, so you. 385 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: Were the nurse in the home, in the nursing home. 386 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: In the nursing home. 387 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: So I kind of started long term care working in 388 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: that field and really fell in love with that. 389 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: Is that like assisted living or take me help me, 390 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: because I've I don't know. There's there's like assisted living, 391 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: then there's full health, there's like levels of senior living, 392 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: right sure, yeah, absolutely, so explain those. 393 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: So I worked in skilled nursing facility, which is I 394 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: mean the highest level of a nursing home, your traditional 395 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: nursing home what we probably all picture when you talk 396 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: about a nursing home. 397 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: I also worked in one that was very similar to 398 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: assisted living. 399 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: So I was the nursing supervisor at that one, and 400 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: I did that during COVID, and of course nursing homes 401 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of traditionally have a depressing feel. I grew up 402 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: being scared of nursing homes. My grandma was, well, my 403 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: great grandma was in one, and it was like smelly and. 404 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Scary, and everybody I just I just had like this. 405 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Stick anybody, No, No, it's the smell, it's all the things. 406 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: And so I kind of which is interesting because then 407 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I ended up working in one. But during COVID, it 408 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: was just so depressing, and you know, as a team, 409 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: you're doing everything you can to kind of boost them 410 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: around in the facility. They're lonely, they're isolated, they're not 411 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: seeing their family, and so you know, we're spending all 412 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: this money, all this resources, trying to rack our brains 413 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: to find things to make them happy. And we had 414 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: a preschool come do an East Ray hunt, which there's 415 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: no contact. I mean, that was when you know they 416 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: could watch from the window. 417 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: You know, we can't tell. 418 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: No. It was literally we were inside watching out the 419 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: window and these kids were just doing an East Ray 420 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: hunt and the joy like that brought to them. 421 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: I thought, that's kind of the ticket, Like, that's what 422 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: we need to do. It's kids like you know that 423 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: bring them joy. 424 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: And so then I kind of the idea kind of 425 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: started to evolve. And originally it was going to be 426 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I was going to do a playground at my nursing home. 427 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to do my own and 428 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this, and then it kind. 429 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Of evolved into a childcare there where you can actually 430 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: build relationships, not just watch kids play or actually interacting. 431 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: And okay, let's let's take a quick diversion, because I 432 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: think it's worth talking about one. I talked to a 433 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: guy today three hours before meeting you, who said he 434 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 2: was concerned about his grandmother dying of loneliness, far before 435 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: she died of anything that was a physical element that 436 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: would actually at take her life. He said, she is 437 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: just sad. How real is that in the nursing home world? 438 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Is that is that a one off? Or is that 439 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: more times than not talk about that? 440 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that's definitely I mean depression 441 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: is like nursing homes. 442 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: I mean that is probably the memory. Yet absolutely I. 443 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Think some of it is just for them, maybe this 444 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: is the last like this is all you know, I 445 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: move here and this is it. A lot of it is, 446 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're taking away everything they love and new 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: their home there. You know, a lot of times you're 448 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: selling their home. There's a lot of factors that play 449 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: into that. But in general, it is very depressing for 450 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: them to be in a nursing home and people are 451 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: very lonely. Not everybody has people that visit them unfortunately, 452 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: or you know, and so you know, I have the 453 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: intergenerational aspect, but also the care side of things, like 454 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: really making it a family like. So the idea is 455 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: also my staff are very close to these elderly, like 456 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: their family, like their grandkids. You know. It's like a close, 457 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: small knit community to where they love them, you know, 458 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: and it's like a actually not just their caregiver. 459 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: I guess I've. 460 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: Heard horror stories often about kind of state run type 461 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: institutions that the level of care is substandard, but even 462 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: worse than that that there is often abuse in elderly 463 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: care facilities that I'm not certainly talking about your yeah 464 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: and abuse oftentimes looks like just leaving someone to kind 465 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: of rot for an extended period of time, all the 466 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: way up to not wanting to hear anybody gripe or 467 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: want something. And how real is that in elderly care 468 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: around the country. 469 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I would say it's it's very real. I've never, you know, 470 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: been a part of that or worked at a facility 471 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: that that's happened or as far as I know, but 472 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: I do think that is definitely. I mean, you're talking 473 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: about people that you're hiring an entry level position and 474 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: paying them not very good money to do a very 475 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: very hard job. So to find good people to do that, trustworthy, 476 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: all of those things. 477 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: It's hard. 478 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: My brother in law, Ben is a person with special needs. 479 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: He has been a number of different facilities, and it 480 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: dawned on me some years ago when you're paying a 481 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: twenty one year old not very well trained that they 482 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: title versus tech or whatever, which actually requires almost no education, 483 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: and you're paying them thirteen bucks an hour to deal 484 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: with a very very challenging human being in a very 485 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: very challenging environment. It's fraught with. 486 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Opportunity, absolutely, I mean, it takes a very very special 487 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: person to do that and do it well, especially for 488 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: that money. Like my biggest thing I say in every 489 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: interview is you can't be doing this for the money. 490 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: You know, you have to have a greater purpose to 491 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: do this work or a sign of work. 492 00:24:52,480 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: You know, we'll be right back. So the whole point 493 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm asking these questions is this, I'm fifty six. You 494 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: know a lot of people have heard my story. But 495 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: my dad left them when I was young, and I 496 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: didn't grow up with a whole lot, and I had 497 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: a fair amount of dysfunction in my house. I worked hard. 498 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: I threw a paper route, I washed cars man, I 499 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: hustled up money anywhere I could to have what some 500 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: other kids just walked in the house their parents came. 501 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: But that's cool too, because that defines who I am. 502 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: I got married to a beautiful woman. I've had three 503 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: gorgeous children. I have taught school and coach football for 504 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: a living, graduated from that because these four kids were 505 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: too expensive on that kind of income, and then started 506 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: to business and now I employe one hundred and thirty people, 507 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: and then this podcast and TV shows and movies, and 508 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a failed human being. Like all of 509 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: us are. But I have worked hard to live a 510 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: decent life, just like you have, just like Alex has, 511 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: just like Cassius. Alex is raising four kids. Cassius has 512 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: this beautiful daughter. Everybody listening to us is doing the 513 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: best they can. And you put in that time, and 514 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: you put in that effort, and despite your failings, every 515 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: day you do, really do try to be a decent 516 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: human being, an exact, some measure of good change in 517 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: your community. And then maybe you lose your spouse and 518 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: you're in your seventies early eighties, and you've lost your 519 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: life partner, and you've paid your taxes, you've been a 520 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: good community citizen, you've done all of the things you're 521 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: supposed to do, and you find yourself in basically a 522 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: dorm room. You also don't like the smell, surrounded by 523 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: people that you don't know, that aren't your family, hoping 524 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: for maybe an hour a week of interaction with somebody 525 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: who has your DNA, and your highlight of your day 526 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: is probably some really average banana pudding at five thirty. 527 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: I mean to me, that's the reality of a lot 528 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: of people in our country right now. The very people 529 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: you've worked for and served. Is that a fair assessment. 530 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: I think that's a fair assessment. 531 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: That's also kind of what I feel compelled to do 532 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: is to make that better for them. You can still 533 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: have some enjoyment, you can still do some things, you 534 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: can still it doesn't have. 535 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: To be a sad thing. It can be life giving 536 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: and you know all. 537 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Of those, which is why you're here because what you're 538 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: doing is incredibly special. But absent you sure, I think? 539 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 540 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that's the reality for a lot of people who 541 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: have given a ton to our society during their lives, 542 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: and to me, that is just so desperately wrong. So 543 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: when you hear the depression, that clinical depression is a 544 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: big deal in nursing care facilities, well, if you actually 545 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: really take stock of it and put yourself in that position, 546 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm fifty six. I don't want to be there in 547 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: twenty years at seventy six. But the truth is there 548 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: are thousands of people in our country that at that 549 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: very age, twenty years from where I'm sitting right now, 550 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: are in that very situation and they're depressed because they've 551 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: led their lives properly and the golden years are not 552 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: supposed to be that. But for some they are. We 553 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: do a shop talk on Fridays, and I remember it 554 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: wasn't long ago. I don't know which remember it was. 555 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm just popped in my head. But one of our 556 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: listeners called in and challenged us to think about just 557 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: going to a nursing home once or twice a week 558 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: and beating or hanging out, just keeping somebody company, and 559 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: how fulfilling it is. But more importantly, if you'll shut 560 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: up and listen, let you might learn from those many, many, 561 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: many years of experience and knowledge and wisdom that these 562 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: people carry from having lived all their life. Just because 563 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: they're old doesn't mean there were any less effective at 564 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: life than any of us listening right now, and they 565 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: have still a lot to offer. 566 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: And I think all of those things you were saying, 567 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: you know that you're then you throw in that you're 568 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: very vulnerable because you have to rely on someone else 569 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: to take care of you. You can't do things for yourself, 570 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: and your health may be failing. You know, all of 571 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: those things so frustrating. So you're not only in this facility, 572 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: in this small room, and all the things you kind 573 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: of mentioned, but then your health is failing or you 574 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: can no longer do things for yourself, or maybe nobody 575 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: can understand you because you have Parkinson's. 576 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: And you slur your words, you know what I mean, 577 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: and so. 578 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: But you are exactly right, Parkinson's is not the person, 579 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: and so kind of taking the disease out, yes, this 580 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: person has way more to offer than just that, you know, 581 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: to teach you if you sit and listen, just kind 582 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: of what we do with the kids their way. 583 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: They had a full life they you know, and oftentimes. 584 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: The kids are very surprised, you know, they were a 585 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: basketball player, they were a football coach, because they're in 586 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: a wheelchair and maybe they can't do anything right now 587 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: and maybe they're even slumped over and you can't barely 588 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: understand them. But they have a life story, you know, 589 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: and it's not over and they can still share it. 590 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: I also have a soul in a mind, and so that. 591 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: For really, yeah, and to be able to share that 592 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: and relive that. That's kind of part of the idea too, 593 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: because that brings them joy, you know. That's that's who 594 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: they want people to remember them as. 595 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know, you're driving around and old folks 596 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: home shuts down, you think I want that what happened. 597 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: No, that is not so I kind of I I 598 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: would kind of go home. 599 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: I worked, you know, in a few different places, and 600 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: they all had wonderful qualities, but it just wasn't the 601 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: essence of exactly the care I wanted to give. 602 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: And a lot of times in the corporate. 603 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: World you can't make changes because you know, they got 604 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: to go through this and this and this and this, 605 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: and so I got very frustrated by that process. Even 606 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: as a supervisor, you couldn't make those changes that I 607 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: felt like needed to happen. 608 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 3: So I'd go home and my husband kept saying, you're 609 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: just going to do it yourself. 610 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: Husband, Joe, Joe. So you go home and say, yo, Joe, 611 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 2: I ain't down with this. I got a better idea. 612 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: Well probably about five thousand. 613 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Times, and then maybe I whittled him after it took 614 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: a minute to say. First he'd say, you got to 615 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: do it yourself. You gotta do it yourself, and we did. 616 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: He did say that, yes, well, to his credit, good 617 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: for him. 618 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely so, And I was like, no, I couldn't. Like, 619 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think I can do that. 620 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: But I'm a normal person. 621 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: I plus, I mean, he owes you. He did mess 622 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: around with his best friend's sister. He owed you one, right, 623 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. 624 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: He owes me a lot. 625 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, No, he was probably the one that encouraged me more. 626 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: You know, I I kept I'm just a normal person. 627 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: You know, I can't run a business. I don't know 628 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: the first thing about that. 629 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: You're a nurse with an idea, yeah, and a husband 630 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: and three children. 631 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And we don't come for money. We don't have. 632 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 633 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: Well that's not even if even. 634 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Everywhere, even if your father left a will, it was 635 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: split eighteen ways. There ain't much left. 636 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: Well, true story, that is very true. 637 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: Everybody gets to go to Applebee's. Yes, that's about it. 638 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: We got to go to McDonald's if we got a's 639 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: and we got to go. So if you got straight 640 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: a's at semester and then on your birthday, you got 641 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: to go to eat. 642 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: I got to go. I'm so I got to go 643 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: to Wendy's or straight ice on a report card. That's true. 644 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: I always raised the same way. 645 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: It was a big deal. 646 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: It was a huge deal. 647 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: And now my kids are like, we don't want to 648 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: eat out. 649 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, losers, Yeah, spoiled brass. I raised four of 650 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: them too. It's terrible. 651 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 652 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 653 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, so during you know, we kind of started looking 654 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: to build one, but again we're. 655 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: Not that's expensive, very expensive. 656 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: And then COVID you know, everything prices and we went 657 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: to the bank a few times and it was like, 658 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: we're never going to be able to do this. I 659 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: am very faith driven, did a lot of praying. I 660 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: had this journal that I would literally, I mean, I 661 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: just kind of kept ideas to kind of keep me inspired. 662 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: So I had this and I would write. 663 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Down things each night and be texting my sisters, Oh, 664 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to name it, and you 665 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: know whatever, to kind of keep inspired. 666 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: So this nursing home came up for sale. 667 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: I had a good girlfriend that lives in Alma, and 668 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: she knew my dream and she said, you need to 669 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: go look at it. The nursing homes closing and I said, 670 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm that's not what i'm doing, that's 671 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: not what i'm thinking. 672 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, as far as almost it's like. 673 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: Thirteen miles from where I live in your neighborhood. 674 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it was. It's a very small town, 675 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: so it was very devastating. It was a corporate facility 676 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: that was closing. But I was kind of resistant because 677 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: that wasn't my idea. I was going to build this, 678 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: you know, exactly what I wanted, and da da da. 679 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: But we went and my husband pretty much said, if 680 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: you're going to do it, I think this is your shot. 681 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, financially, it was really the only opportunity. It's 682 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: like a twenty six thousand square feet you had to 683 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: it had urinals on the floor, and it smelled like 684 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: a nursing home and it was very, very run down. 685 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: But he's like, I think we could do it. This 686 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: setup was kind of how we we it would work. 687 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: And so how are you going to buy this thing? 688 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: My father and mother in law graciously helped us, and 689 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: then we my husband and I pretty much put everything 690 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: out and your kids scrubbing. Yeah, so they get it 691 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: inher a. 692 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: Red face and say, mom, why can't we get a 693 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: contractor like normal people all the day? 694 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much every day. 695 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 2: Too bad. 696 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: I think they still are know we have enough to 697 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: hire somebody for that yet. 698 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: And that concludes part one of my conversation with Aaron Steele, 699 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: and you do not want to miss part two. That's 700 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: now we'll be able to listen to together. Guys, we 701 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: can change this country, but it starts with you. I'll 702 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: see you in Part two.