1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, who doesn't sometimes fantasize that they have some 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: sort of epic superhero power. Anyone, just me, Okay, maybe 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: just me. Welcome to I've never said this before with me. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: You're a non superhero Tommy to Darry. I am such 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: a fan of the TV series gen V, which is 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: the spinoff to the series The Boys, and today I 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: have fan favorite badass actor Derek Lou on my show now. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: If you haven't caught gen V yet, the series explores 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: the lives of well, let's say, hormonal and very competitive 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: young adult superheroes as they put physical and sexual and 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: even moral boundaries to the test at America's only college 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: exclusively for superheroes. And my boy, Derek plays one of 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: the most powerful superheroes in his entire university. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Man. 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: He brings such depth to a multi layered role and 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: you always are left wanting more screen time with Derek 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: because his performance is so damn good. Season two is 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: out right now and we are diving into all things 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: gen V and The Boys and even who Derek is 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: without a superhero persona and so many other fun topics. 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: So let's see if today we can get Derek to 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: say something that he has never said before. 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: Derek Lou, how you doing, my man? 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: I'm good. How about you? 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. It's nice to be hanging out with you. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: It's an exciting time in your life. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: Huh, it is. 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: It's very exciting. 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: We're gearing up to do the full press run for 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: the second season to gen V. 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: I'm very excited, man. 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we've been waiting for season two for 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: a while and now we're ready. 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: You're telling me I've been waiting for season two for 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 4: a while now. So I'm excited. I'm excited that it's 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 4: coming out, and I'm excited that everybody gets to see it. 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Man, So with the new season when it drops, do 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: you feel like anxious beforehand? Are you counting down? Are 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, I just need it out? 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Like what's the vibe before? 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: I think? 43 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a I think the period now 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: there's a period of acceptance. You're just like it's coming 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: out when it gets so close. I think the the 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: weird time is in between, like when you wrap to 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: when it starts to come out, because there's this this 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 4: like year of not knowing you know, so you're like, god, 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: I wonder how you know how I did. I wonder 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 4: when it's going to be edited, when we get some new, 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: you know, news about it. So there's like that in 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: between period where it's it's a little more daunting, I 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 4: guess you you could say, but I think then when 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: when it starts, like you're you're in it doing the 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: comic cons and it's it's like starting to do press 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: and everything, I think there's this there's this like quiet 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: acceptance where you're just like, you know what, I did 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: my part, and I'm just excited to share with the 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 4: world now. 60 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, quiet acceptance. I like that. 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: And that's something I feel like you as an artist 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: have to deal with more than perhaps me and my job, 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: where I have a little bit more control over the 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: final outcome. You do the work, but you don't really 65 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: know how it's going to all come together in the end, right. 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's something that I'll forever be, 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: you know, working on. But a as a young actor 68 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: who's only been doing it for you know, five or 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: six years, I think that's like the biggest lesson that 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 4: I've learned is you know, and I guess you could 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: apply this to any facet of your life is control 72 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: what you can control, you know, the prep, showing up 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: with a good attitude, being professional, making it a safe 74 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: space for all of my co stars to you know, 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: the co inhabit and just just doing the work and 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: being proud of the work that you've done. And for 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: lack of a better term, I come from a sports world, 78 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: so like leaving it all on the field. You know, 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: as long as I'm like leaving it all out there 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: every single day, you know, I feel proud of the 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: work that I've done and whatever happens happens, you know. 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and you should feel proud. 83 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Man. 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you created a character that means so much 85 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: to so many people. You know, Jordan is this gender shifter, 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: and that conversation around Jordan, there's so much conversation around 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: mental health and sexuality and humanity and all of these things. 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel the importance of that role to people? 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Like do you feel the pressure of that? 90 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah. 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 4: The first season, me in London, who I share the 92 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: role with, who's a fantastic actor and a great French. 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: He's just so great to work with on this role. 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: We were we were nervous. We were definitely like cause 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: it's it's the boys, you know, like they love to 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: poke fun. But they also do such a great job 97 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: at making sure that they are telling the story and 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: giving these you know, marginalized people a voice, a real voice, 99 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: which is it was really great. And the and the 100 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: writers did such a great job. And we had a 101 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: trans consultant and jet on the writing staff and on 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: product so that it was really it was really thought 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: out and really taking care of So yeah, in the beginning, 104 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: we were we were both extremely nervous. I couldn't show 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: it because London was a little more nervous than I was. 106 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: So I was like, it's going to be fine, Like 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: it's great. I was trying to be the voice of reason, 108 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: but inside I was a little nervous. And then to 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: to see how they took such care of Jordan and 110 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: really made them this this beautiful, well thought out character 111 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: with who's not just like this side thought. They have 112 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: a full, beautiful arc, full range of emotions, and also 113 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: are extremely fucking badass and are like can I cuss 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: is that? Yeah? 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: You can? Okay? Okay? 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: Are extremely badass and and and are is They are 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: one of the most powerful soups in the entire you know, 118 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: Boys universe. 119 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's really cool. 120 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and it's so cool. It's it's such 121 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: a unique character. I mean, I've never seen a character 122 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 1: like this. You obviously play the male side and London 123 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: plays the female side of Jordan. Yeah, what have you 124 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: most learned about yourself through playing is such a big role. 125 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's such a great question. I think. 126 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: I think that I think the biggest thing that I've 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: learned while playing Jordan. 128 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Would have to be. 129 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: This level of not feeling enough, you know, like this, 130 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: Like I I understood that feeling of just wanting to 131 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: be accepted for who you are so badly, but but 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 4: not showing it, having to have this like tough exterior 133 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: and not show who you truly are because the world 134 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: views you and villainizes you just because of who you are, 135 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: so really understand like being able to dive into that 136 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: and understand that and then finding that there are pieces 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 4: of that in me as well, and you know, it's 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: just yeah, that was that was really eye opening, and 139 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: I think it was beautiful. It was beautiful part of 140 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: the process. 141 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure a bit you know, cathartic and 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: therapeutic too. 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, for sure. 144 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: That's awesome when your art can make you feel more 145 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: at peace with something in your own life, or you 146 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: can learn something from it even though it's not directly 147 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: related to that character. It opens your eyes to something else, 148 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. Yeah. 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of my favorite things about art 150 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: is that you and especially with acting and playing a character, 151 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: is when you get a role you know early in 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: your career, they're kind of sending you stuff that you're 153 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: most similar to. But then when you get something that 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: is a little bit a little farther away from who 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: you are, because I guess all of these are extensions 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: of ourselves, it's really nice to be able to like 157 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: go and find how you relate with this character and 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: realize like, oh wow, these are completely different set of circumstances, 159 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: but I can completely relate on this like this bare 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: minimum human level. 161 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing, man, Yes, that's a beautiful thing. 162 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: That really really is. 163 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: And season two, I have no doubt we are going 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: to see some epic moments from you in this season. 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: We've been waiting for it and I'm certainly very excited 166 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: for it. So let's let's dive in a bit to 167 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the extent that you can. So we know that your 168 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: character and Marie were kind of heating up. There was 169 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: a budding romance in season one. What do you feel 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: about all of that? Do you kind of hope that 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: they might be endgame? 172 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: Dude? 173 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: Marie and Jordan better be endgame? They are they are 174 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: and maybe bias and maybe bias. They're my favorite couple 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: I think in the entire dare I say Vaught cinematic universe. 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: I know that's a lot. We got Huie and Starlight 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: and Sam and Emma. There's a lot of relationships, but 178 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: I may be biased. I think it's just these two 179 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: just misunderstood, broken people that see one another in each other. 180 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: It's like this like twin flame thing, you know, where 181 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: you like hold up the mirror to the other person, 182 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: and I just think it's just so beautiful and so 183 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: dynamic and three dimensional. And it's also you know, credit 184 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: to Jazz for having to have chemistry with two separate people, 185 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: you know, and make it seamless and make it as one. 186 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: And then it's also it's also great that there are 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: little differences and nuances when there's the male version present 188 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: and the female version present. So yeah, Marie Jordan endgame 189 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: stamp of approval always absolutely so. 190 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: We I mean we don't know obviously where it's all 191 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: going to go, but you're gonna be in that writer's 192 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: room until the end, being like you all better make 193 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: this happen for sure. 194 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: At one thousand percent. 195 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's awesome. So are there any new characters 196 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: this season that you're really psyched about? 197 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: Like, do you have a favorite new character? 198 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Oh? 199 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: I do. I of course I can't mention them. I'll 200 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: keep it. 201 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't mention that, but it's it's one of 202 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: my favorite characters and they have a very cool power 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 4: that that we get to explore this season. One that 204 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: I can mention that I think is really great is 205 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: Hamish who plays Cipher the Dean. He is just so 206 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: fantastic and just so explosive and just a great Dean. 207 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: He's just he plays a great Dean. But yeah, he's 208 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: he's he's awesome. He's he's one of my favorite for 209 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: sure this season as well. 210 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: And what do you psyched for us to see regarding 211 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: your character? I know you can't say much, but it's yeah, 212 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: it's a whole new season there's always a lot of 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: jam packed action and a lot that goes into it. 214 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: So what what excites you? 215 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: I think I think the thing that excites me most 216 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: this season with Jordan. 217 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: Is is the growth. 218 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of growth that Jordan goes through 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: because you know, in the in the first season, their 220 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: whole reality is essentially shattered. What they thought Godlkin was, 221 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: who Brink was, the ranking system, like their whole getting 222 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: getting to the seven. Their whole world just collapsed around them. 223 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: So having to kind of just deal with that reality 224 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: and put the pieces back together. Jordan does it in 225 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 4: a very Jordan way, but I will say as graceful 226 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: as Jordan can do it, and it's just a it's 227 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: just a beautiful, cathartic process to watch watch Jordan process 228 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: all of these big feelings and emotions and events that 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: happen to them and see them really really triumph and 230 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: and have just like a beautiful, beautiful arc from you know, 231 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: beginning of season to end. 232 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Man, That's what I love about this show is there's yeah, 233 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: so much action and you know, blood and guts and 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: all of it, and then superhero magic, but there's also 235 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,119 Speaker 1: so much heart and there's so much real life conversation 236 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: and themes and and takeaways that after you watch it, 237 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, like that's actually something that I 238 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: want to feel or I want to experience, or I 239 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: want to be better. Like it's a very hard thing 240 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: to achieve, but the show marries those worlds together. 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. 242 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: I mean credit to the writers and showrunner and Kripkey. 243 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 4: They they do such a good job. We always say 244 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: it's it's humanity first, superpower second. 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: That's how the show is. 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: It goes in very Yes, these are people that have superpowers, 247 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: but the themes that they deal with are very much 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: real world human themes that anybody can relate to. 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, let's have fun for a minute. Then what 250 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: would be a dream storyline in like season four or five? 251 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: Oh, season four or five. 252 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: I would really I would really love I've been thinking 253 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: about this for a long time. I would really love 254 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: for because we got it a little bit in season 255 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: one with the confrontation with the dad. But I would 256 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: really love like a cathartic ending to that. I would 257 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: really love that, like love and acceptance from from Jordan's dad, 258 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: Like maybe a scene where they just you know, just 259 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: just I'm almost sad to say, but like, you know, 260 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 4: really open up and like beg them to love them 261 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: for who they are, you know, Like I think that'd 262 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: be a really that'd be like a dream moment. Whether 263 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: it's me or London. I just want to see Jordan 264 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: really you know, men that relationship with their parents and 265 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: and potentially you know, change their their father's view on 266 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 4: on on them and in the world. I think that 267 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: would be so so beautiful. 268 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: M you were ready to bring those emotional acting chops 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to the table. Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I see you, 270 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: I see you. 271 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: It was it was well and up in me already. 272 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: I was feeling I was like, oh god, man, I 273 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: was just yeah, for. 274 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Sure, that would be awesome to see. And I hope 275 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: that does happen because I know that moment would for 276 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: sure definitely mean a lot to many people. And I 277 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: think there's a way where you both could play that. 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's a way, Yeah, oh. 279 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: For sure, absolutely, there definitely could be. 280 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I love how tight everyone seems to be in this cast, 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: and that always makes a show more enjoyable as a viewer, 282 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I think because you feel like the love is actually 283 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: off screen too, as it is on screen, and you know, 284 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: I know, this season very much from what I've been reading, 285 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: honors the beautiful, beautiful Chance, who the world lost, of 286 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: course in the motorcycle accident, so suddenly and terribly. Did 287 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: you guys feel him around you this season? 288 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, Chances is felt through the entire season. 289 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: I mean it is. He is the beating heart of 290 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: this season, and having watched it, it's very apparent that 291 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: the Andre and Chance being a part of this has 292 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: elevated the show to another level in celebrating his remembrance, 293 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: It's yeah, he was with us that entire season, for sure. 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: That's always a comforting thing, I think when you know 295 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you lose someone and obviously they're physically not here, but 296 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: you can still kind of feel them around you. 297 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely, Yeah, Well that's awesome. 298 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: That's that's really no surprise given the amazing talent behind 299 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: the show. But that's that's awesome that there was a 300 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: beautiful way to keep that legacy going, which is very 301 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: exciting to see and to watch for sure. 302 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 303 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Well, I think that there's a lot of surprises 304 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: coming this season, for sure, And I know you can't 305 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: really tell us much more, but maybe you can share. 306 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Do you make a playlist for your character? Do you 307 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: have songs that revue up where you're like, let's go. 308 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: I know music is a huge part of your identity. 309 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: That's a great question. I do have a playlist. Actually, 310 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: I have a Jordan playlist. Let me see if I 311 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: can share a couple of them. 312 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: Let me see. 313 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Now, was this a new one for season two? 314 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 315 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: So I in season one, I had worked a certain way, 316 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: and then after you know, season one, I had met Asa, 317 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: and Asa put me onto are now acting coach Berg. 318 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: He calls himself the Berg, but he's fantastic. He's He's 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: absolutely changed my life, not only as an artist and 320 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: how I approach the work, but also. 321 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: How I view the world. 322 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: So just yeah, So, going into the second season, having 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: been working with him during the off season and then 324 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: prepping the character as well, music had become a big, 325 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: like focal point of like scene, the scene line, the line, 326 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: you know, like this is the the scene? 327 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Is this? 328 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: Feel like I was scoring my own scenes, you know, 329 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: and I'd have it in the back of my head, 330 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: or I'd listen to the music before the scene and 331 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: kind of have that pace in that rhythm, or even 332 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: just like a noise that like if there was like 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: a you know, a high hat or like a weird synth, 334 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: I'd like hold on to that and have that like 335 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: kind of permeating throughout the entire scenes. So it was 336 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: a really it was a new thing for this second 337 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: season and it was very, very very helpful. All right, 338 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: let me get to it and see if I can 339 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: share a couple of songs. It's a little it's a 340 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: little personal, but uh so, Venus in Furs by the 341 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: Velvet Underground was one that I really had change by 342 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: Death Tones was another one that was really helped, like 343 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: bring the world together, Angel Massive Attack. There was also 344 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: some some classical Swan Lake Symphony Number forty Blind by 345 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: Corn was another one. What's Up by four Non Blondes? 346 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: That's that was another good one. Closer nine inch Nails nice. Yeah, 347 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: a lot of rock. As you can tell, there's a 348 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: classical and then it's like a lot of rock, Fat Lips, 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 4: some forty one Chop Suey System of the Down. I 350 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: believe in a thing called love the Darkness Against all Odds. 351 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: Phil Collins, ooh, yeah, that was. 352 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: A really good one. 353 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: That was a fun, fun day shooting that scene that 354 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: that song attributed to. 355 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: For sure. 356 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's so cool to I'm gonna go 357 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: back and replace some of those and you know, it'll 358 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: be fun to kind of think, Oh. 359 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: I wonder what kind of scene Ip was getting into 360 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: in this. 361 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome that that music can get you there. That's awesome, 362 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing. I know music is a 363 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: very personal thing, but I always find that so interesting 364 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: for sure, So. 365 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Rock on with that, my man. 366 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: One day when the series comes to an end in 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: five thousand seasons. 368 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: What do you want for your character? 369 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: You've grown close to Jordan, I know this is close 370 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: to your heart. 371 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: What do you just hope for Jordan? 372 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: God, that's such a great question. I just I truly 373 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 4: want them to be happy. I want them to be 374 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: like in the whole sense of the word. I want 375 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: them to be fully in love with themselves and have 376 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: just the self confidence and that that self acceptance and 377 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: and just be able to to seek that validation or 378 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: receive that validation internally, you know, not have to look externally. Yeah, 379 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: I think just with all that being said, I think 380 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 4: the simplest answer would be for Jordan to just be 381 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: happy and like truly happy and love themselves. M M. 382 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: That would be nice for all of us, right. 383 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: Course, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. 384 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love that. 385 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: And do you think Jordan would have a really badass 386 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: superhero name? 387 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: Have you thought about this? 388 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: Of course absolutely, I haven't thought of the name, but 389 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: I know that they would have a badass superhero name. 390 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: But if you left it up to to give them 391 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: a superhero name, it would be something super ridiculous and 392 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: super out of pocket like Ying Yang. 393 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: Or some shit like that. 394 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And be like be like 395 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: I don't even know, man, there'd be something super yeah, 396 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: super offensive, super out of pocket, like yeah. 397 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: You've really not thought of what the name would be. 398 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: I haven't, honestly, I because I want I don't want 399 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: to get attached to it, and I I just I don't. Yeah, 400 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: I I think I think superhero names come with being 401 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: a part of the VOT system. 402 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: So the fact that we have our actual names and 404 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: we go by like Marie Moreau, Ma Myers, you know, 405 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: Sam Reardon, Jordan Lee, it's it's our identity. 406 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: We own it. 407 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: But like Soldier Boy was in Homelander, these are created, 408 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: These are Vaught created, names that they slap on you 409 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: and they make you a product. So I think I think, 410 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: I think part of me is resistant to it because 411 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, as Jordan, You're like, well, fuck the system, 412 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, fuck Vought, fuck them, fuck the school. 413 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to any part of that. 414 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: So I think that maybe a little bit like subconsciously 415 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: why I haven't thought. 416 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: Of it much. 417 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, that totally makes sense. And you 418 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: I keep hearing you say Vaught. So now this question 419 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: came to mind too. If there could be any character 420 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: from the Boys franchise that Jordan would want to fight, 421 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: who would you pick fight? 422 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh? 423 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: Man, I mean, well, Jordan is an overachiever. They want 424 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: the best. They understand that like steal sharpened steel, So 425 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: they would go straight to the pinnacle Homelander. Ooh, they'd 426 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: go straight to the pinnacle. That's who they would want 427 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: to fight. 428 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: That would be bloody and brutal. 429 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: It would be absolutely But I mean, look, we're young 430 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: with our skills. But I think, and I may be biased, 431 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 4: I think if we sharpen our tool, we might be 432 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: able to give him a run for his money. 433 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, y, we're ready for it. That's a matchup. I 434 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: would definitely want to watch congrats man on all of it, 435 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Like this is just talking to you about it. And 436 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: I've watched you know, the Boys for all the seasons, 437 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: and then I got into gen V of course, and 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: I imagine being welcome into a world that the Boys 439 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: first created and having this epic character very early on 440 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: in your career to kind of launch, you must feel 441 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: like a pinch me moment over and over again, like 442 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: do you realize the success you've had already in your 443 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: career or are you so in it you're like, what's next? 444 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: What's next? Like what's your relationship with success? 445 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: Alike? 446 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another great question. I do reflect a lot. 447 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: I remember There'd be times on the first season where 448 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: I'd just be sitting there staring with a smile on 449 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: my face, and I remember Maddie would be like, what 450 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: are you thinking about? And I'm like, I'm just thinking 451 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: about how grateful I am to be here, Like this 452 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: is insane. Because on my birthday last year, before we 453 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: started shooting the first season, I remember my friend had asked, like, 454 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: what's your goal? What's your goal for you know, this 455 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: this next year, Like what do you want to do? 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: And I'm like, like, by the next birthday, what do 457 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: you want to do? And I said, I don't care 458 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: what I do. I just want to be on set 459 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 4: working on something that I truly am excited for and 460 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: passionate about. And a year later, on my birthday, there 461 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: was a cake brought out during our lunchtime during the 462 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: first season on set. It was like the most insane, powerful, manifestation, 463 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: surreal moment that I've I've ever had. And yeah, I 464 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 4: think I think you do get you lose sight of that, 465 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: like when you're when you're doing the first season and 466 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: the second season, there's so much gratitude and you're expressing that. 467 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: But then also as as an artist, you're like, Okay, 468 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: what's next, what's next? 469 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: What's next? 470 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: I know this, you know I I would love to 471 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: do something else and love to uh, you know, to 472 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: add to to the to the gen V catalog. And 473 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: it's it's you can get caught up in that, in 474 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 4: that cycle of always wanting to like move to the 475 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: next thing and do the next thing and stretch yourself 476 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 4: as an artist, that you forget to slow down and 477 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: be super grateful about where you are and what you've accomplished. 478 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: But Yeah, there are moments where I have to like 479 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: tell myself, I'm like, I sit down and I reflect, 480 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: and I'm just like, this is this is everything I 481 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: could have ever imagined and dreamed for. 482 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: And because of that, which is quite a powerful feeling 483 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and emotion to tie to the work that anybody does, 484 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: do you ever worry like, oh man, what if one 485 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: day this goes away? Or do you just do you 486 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: not have that kind of anxiety? Do you forward think 487 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: or do you kind of wrestle with that as well? 488 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: Look, I love acting in the art and the craft 489 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 4: so much that if my path led me to like 490 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: teaching somewhere, I would be fulfilled because I just love 491 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: the craft and I love being around it, and I 492 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: love creating, and I love talking to creatives, and I 493 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: love sharing the knowledge that I have, and I love 494 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: gaining knowledge that I don't have about the arts and 495 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 4: about the craft and about film that I You know, 496 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: there obviously is like a moment where you're like, man, 497 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: I would love to do this forever. I would love 498 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: to go and do movies and get greenlit anything that 499 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: I that I sign up for and be like I 500 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: like this script, let's do it. There's obviously a world 501 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 4: where you would love to do that, but I don't 502 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 4: really I don't really care that much. I think whatever 503 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: happens happens, and if it's meant for me to continue 504 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: on for a billion years, or if it's meant to 505 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: be to you know, go and create an act in 506 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: some other lane, I would be fine because I just 507 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: love the art so much and I love the craft 508 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: so much. 509 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: That's awesome to hear, because I think it's so hard 510 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: sometimes when we love what we do to not tie 511 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: our entire identity to it. And I have no doubt 512 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: you're going to do all the things you just said 513 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: in movies and making shit and all of it, because 514 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: you're brilliant at what you do and this is just 515 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the beginning. But I like to sometimes ask that question, 516 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: as you know now, your older brother, of course. 517 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Because you know, because it's it's good. 518 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: It's a good thing to love what you do but 519 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: not tie your soul identity to it, because that can 520 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: be very dangerous in my opinion. So I love seeing 521 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: grounded artists like you who who are killing it and 522 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: crushing it and living the dream and will continue to 523 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: live the dream, but also seemingly has a good sense 524 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: of self. Do you strike me as someone pretty spiritual 525 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: or in touch with you know who you are? 526 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: Is that right? 527 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 528 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've always been I've always been spiritual. I 529 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: always understood that there's there's a higher power, there's something 530 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 4: that is outside of us. But yeah, I think I 531 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: think just just really you know, relinquishing that ego and 532 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: understanding that you're just like this like tiny little thing 533 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 4: on this floating rock, or even even with acting like 534 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: you're just a part of the cog, You're just a department. 535 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you're a department just 536 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: like everybody else, and you make this thing move. Is 537 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: it just it helps ground you know, ground me in 538 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 4: a way. 539 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: As we wrap up, because I know you were booked 540 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: and busy. My man. 541 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: The name of the show is called I've never said 542 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: this before, and it was born. I work on a 543 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: show called Extra as well, and I cover a lot 544 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: of red carpets and junkets, and you know, you got 545 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: like two minutes with someone or six minutes at a junket, 546 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: and it's just not a ton of time. And I 547 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: was kind of seeing the desire from people I was 548 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: chatting with to want to say something different or a 549 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: little more personal or cater to them and not hit 550 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: the same bites over and over. 551 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: Which is why I created the show. 552 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: I try to get different things out of the conversation, 553 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and I wrap up every episode with the same question 554 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: based off the title of the show, which is, is 555 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: there something that you've never said before that you want 556 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: to say today whatever it means to you. 557 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 558 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: I've thought about this for a little bit, and I 559 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 4: don't know if i've I've said it like in like 560 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: a press setting. But last week, I think it was Tuesday, 561 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 4: September two, was my ninth year of sobriety. 562 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Man. 563 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: Congrats. 564 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes me emotional thinking about it. Oh yeah, 565 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: it's uh, excuse me, sorry. It's just something I'm really 566 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: proud of. And I think that's why I have such 567 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: a such a gratitude for all of these blessings, because 568 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: I really I shouldn't even really be here, you know, 569 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: So this is just like just like a cherry on 570 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: top of that, you know, of all of it. So yeah, yeah, 571 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: that's that's That's something I've never said before. 572 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: For sure. 573 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, seriously, thank you for sharing that. 574 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to hear 575 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: that and feel like they're on the right path and 576 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: that's helpful to them. And maybe it's a sign to 577 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: them that they wanted to make a change and that 578 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. And I know that's so personal, 579 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: not always easy to say, especially in most interview settings 580 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: which are so quick, but that's really awesome, man, Congrats 581 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: to you. I have very very you know, close people 582 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: in my life who have celebrated milestones like that, and 583 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. You must you must be really 584 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: proud of yourself. 585 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: I am. That is. 586 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: There are a lot of things I'm unsure of in 587 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: my life, but that is one thing that I'm very 588 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: sure and very proud of of of accomplishing that. 589 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: There's a very small percentage. 590 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: Of of people that make it that like in recovery, 591 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: so I'm very grateful that I was able to, you know, 592 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: persevere and continue to take it one day at a time. 593 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Man, that's awesome. 594 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: And for anyone listening who who might be going through 595 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: their own struggle and they just want a little affirmation 596 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: to keep going. I mean, is there any piece of 597 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: advice you can offer? 598 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you you just you have to do it 599 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: for yourself. That was my main thing. Is you have 600 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: to do it for yourself, because I tried to do 601 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: it for my parents, and I tried to do it 602 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: for this reason. And you know, when I really hit 603 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 4: my rock bottom, I I decided, you know, I started 604 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: bargaining with God. I said, look, if you get me 605 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: out of this safe, I will never touch a drink 606 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: or drug again. And you know, by the grace of God, 607 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: I got out of there safe. And I never did 608 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: I decided not to. But I really did it for myself. 609 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: There was I felt alone and I really buckled down 610 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: and had to do this for myself and find my why. 611 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, just just forgive yourself. Be easy on yourself. 612 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's a it's a hard disease to 613 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 4: live with, but yeah, just just keep the faith and 614 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: keep hope and just take it one day at a time. 615 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Man, Man again, thank you. This is this is exactly 616 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: why I do this show. 617 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: It's it's yes, I love celebrating the work and that 618 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: has tremendous value, and I like, I love the fun 619 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: of that, but I also love moments like this and 620 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: where I can sit across from this seemingly badass successful 621 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: young dude in his prime who's like yo. But this 622 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: also is important, so let's talk about it now. I me, 623 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: it makes me emotional, so truly. Thank you for sharing that. 624 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: That's really fucking awesome. 625 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: Of course. 626 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: Well, thank you for hosting this, this platform and giving 627 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 4: allowing you know, artists, this this medium to do that. 628 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: It's it's very special and I appreciate you. 629 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Ah well, I appreciate you, brother jen V. Season two, 630 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: let's fucking go. 631 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: Let's right, Oh right, you're right, yeah, September seventeenth. Man, 632 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: I don't know when this is coming out, but September seventeenth, yes, absolutely, 633 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: I'm yes. 634 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: Yes, this will be out by then, so everyone watch it. 635 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: We'll keep watching it, keep posting about it. We love it, 636 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: and man, I can't wait to see all the things 637 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: you continue to do. If you're ever in New York City, 638 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: hit me up. We'll grab a coffee and keep on 639 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: killing it. 640 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: I was just there for a month, dude. Had I known, 641 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: we could have grabbed a coffee, dude, I will for 642 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: sure be in New York again. 643 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, well next time, my brother gen V. 644 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Congratulations and now we're going to all go download some 645 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: of those songs that you just told. 646 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: Yes. 647 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I created Jordan playlist. 648 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: I may have to make one on Spotify so everyone 649 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: can can join. 650 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: Brilliant man. 651 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: We'll be well, okay, all right, I appreciate you. Thank 652 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: you so much. 653 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. It's hosted by me, Tommy Diderio. 654 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Publisi at iHeartRadio 655 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Josh Shua Colaudney. 656 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 657 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Duran podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review 658 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 659 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Diderio.