WEBVTT - Discussing Bears Development, HOF Game, New Kick Return Rule, and More With Adam Rank 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.640 Welcome in Tubble Bears Weekly, a Chicago Bears Network production 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.119 download the Chicago Bears Official Act brought to you by 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.320 Verizon to follow the team on the go. Bears Weekly 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.320 is brought to you by Advocate Healthcare, Athletico Physical Therapy, 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:20.560 bet Rivers, Cddlling, Connie's Pizza by GIS Energy and Miller 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.560 LIKEE Kira. Your hosts Jeff Chioniac aka the Mayor of 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.040 Bearsville and his sidekick Term the surf Maaster. There. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.760 We are now a month away from the start of 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.519 training camp and still lots to discuss about what promises 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.600 to be a wild ride in twenty twenty four with 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.440 Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom There. I'm Jeff Joniyak 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.760 from Serious X NFL Radio's Moving the Chains. We have 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.920 former Bears quarterback Jim Miller thanks to Dan Brilliant, Jordan 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.440 tread Up, our producers and of the ESPN studios Kevin 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.280 z Pak Tonight, the executive producer of the Bears Radio 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.720 Network is Eric Ostrowski coming up our conversation with Adam 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.240 Rank from NFL Network. Always entertaining Fella's house. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:57.920 Everybody doing. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.760 We got lots to discuss and not a lot of 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.720 time to do, so I'm going to start tom with 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.120 DeAndre Carter coming aboard this week, another wide receiver, kick return, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.040 punt return candidate. He only played four games in two 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.640 thousand with the Bears. He's been here before, but DeAndre 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.120 Carter since twenty eighteen, I should say, number two in 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.440 punt return yards, number four and kick return yards in 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:18.959 the NFL. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.640 It just makes me think that either is there either 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.600 something more wrong le Deontay pattis that we don't know 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.080 because he didn't really participate very much in OTAs in 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.039 mini camp and number two, if he is healthy, it's 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.360 going to increase the competition of that position. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.480 Even more, both of the returners. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.480 And I think with the inclusion of the new kickoff 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:45.160 return game, if you feel that you've had a past 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.280 with the player that you figure their talent is super 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.080 electric for what the new return game is about, you 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.120 want to bring every one of those guys aboard that 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:55.559 you can. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.360 And Jim Chris Batty had him in charge your land 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.400 in twenty twenty two, second in the NFL and punt 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.760 returns at eleven point seven, so he can he can 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:04.600 doodge for him too. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.720 Yeah, And you know I do. I think whether it's 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.200 Petus or Baylis Jones, I think it's up to it. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.160 It's been kind of a slow burn with Bayles Jones Junior. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.720 I think we know that he's got to get going. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.920 He's got to get more production in terms of what 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.040 he's doing. So when you bring in a veteran like this, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.760 I think it just amps it up a lot more, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.079 you know, and what's expect because it's going to be 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.880 hard for him to crack that lineup with Roma Donze, 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.560 you know, just drafted for Bayless Jones. So it's got 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.680 to be as a kick returner in my opinion, because 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.960 you've got Dj Moore, you drafted Roma Dunes, and then 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.160 you bring in Keenan Allen. You know, eleven personnel, which 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.320 is three wide receivers for the listeners out there, it's 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.600 the most used personnel grouping in the league. So for me, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.000 it puts more pressure on Bayleis Jones. How are you 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.280 going to crack the lineup to get in? And it's 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.840 got to be as a returner in my opinion. So 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.639 it's a good, healthy room, let's just put it that way. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.560 Yeah, it definitely is. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:57.799 Tom. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.799 We talked about the running back room all the time. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.360 Going to talk more about running backs here, but the 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.639 depth at receiver and you've got a factor in Tyler 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.720 Scott as well. He had chances to return the ball 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.600 last year as well. I'm looking for him to have 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.640 a really good training camp and really tackle some of 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.280 the issues he may have had last season. Yes, the 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.160 burners on Vallas right now too. I mean this is 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:20.720 year three for Vallas Jones. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.760 You know, a couple of weeks ago, we are introduced 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.840 to the term dirty ball by Jim Miller talking about 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.040 what the new kickoff could be. You know, Jeff, I 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.280 don't think there's any athlete that's on the Bears roster 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.920 that's not capable of being a kick returner. Because if 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.840 you're not necessarily talking about a four second hangtime son 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.200 in your eyes, trying to concentrate on the flight of 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.560 the ball, maybe in a windy outdoor stadium or a 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.960 confusing indoor stadium. If you're a you know, a Cool Herbert, 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.560 or if you're a Roshawn Johnson, if you're any of 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:56.720 these guys that are. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.000 Great with the ball in their hands, you are a candidate. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.680 And it nowadays, in this new modern day return game 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.520 to be a returner. So we're not so much anymore 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.720 stuck on that proto type returner. We're gonna be looking 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.400 at athletes and what they can do with the ball 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.720 in their hands. That's why even in Pittsburgh the conversation 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.560 of Justin is a part of it, and you know, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.640 you can't ignore it, and I don't think you can 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.440 ignore anybody on the roster that's an athlete. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:29.640 Yeah, they almost have to be like an outfielder in baseball. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.359 I think it was Special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn of 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.080 the Chargers brought that up, because you're right, with that 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.359 dirty ball, you're gonna need athletes that can field like 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.200 a center fielder. You know, a line drive that just 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.480 comes out and you've got to be able to, you know, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.480 to and if that ball hits the ground and is 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.920 bouncing around, guys that can scoop it up and field 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.240 a ground ball and those type of things. So they're 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.800 almost gonna be like center fielders, you know, on a 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.800 baseball team with what they're gonna be asked to do. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.599 And normally you're center fielder is a guy who can 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.560 run and get to those gaps like in the outfield 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.560 to retrieve the ball as quickly as possible, and that 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.839 ball could be bouncing all kinds of crazy ways. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.600 Because if this new return infiltrates the college game and 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.560 you see college returners, if they go to one knee 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.920 and they catch the ball, they're down. So they're gonna 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.320 have to change that rule if it ever does go 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.040 into the college game to try to get more guys 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.080 ready for the pro game. And so in the pro game, 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.599 if you get down to that knee, like Jim says, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.840 an outfielder that's taking in an aggressive ball at you, boom, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.040 You're still alive until you're touched. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.040 All right. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.120 We usually save Tom's thoughts for segment five, our last segment. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.840 We're gonna throw one in here because we didn't get 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.279 to it last week. Jim so he wanted to know 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.239 division MVPs. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:46.440 Of each team. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.240 So I'll speak for Tommy at Goffer Detroit, Jefferson from Minnesota, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.960 love for the Packers, and then a debate about the Bears, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.679 Tom a four pack sweat, DJ Caleb, Jalen Johnson, Jim 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.919 take the baton and then Tom can fill in the blanks. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.240 I would definitely say golf for the Detroit Lions. I 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.760 think for the Green Bay Packers, to me, it's going 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.680 to be Jeff Haffley. He has to come through, dude. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.000 They haven't stopped the run in forever under Joe Barry, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.800 who is their former defensive coordinator, Jeff Hafley. They've been 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.120 literally twenty eighth and thirtieth the last three or four years. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.760 They don't have the ability or have not shown the 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.680 ability to stop the run. So I'd say halflee for them. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.720 For the Minnesota Vikings, that's hard. I think that defense 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.360 it's going to be Brian Flores, their defensive quarter because 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:33.960 I think that defense is going to have to carry 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.080 the offense due to Sam Darnold his issues with throwing 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.560 the turnovers and things like that. And we may see 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.880 JJ McCarthy by the end of the year, so I 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.520 would say it's Brian Floor is there as well. And 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.840 for the Bears, I agree with joh I mean, I 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.040 would go with Montes Sweat. He's the leader on defense, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.360 and much like what Adam Ranks said, they need to 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.960 pass Rusher opposite him to really show up. And I 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.520 think we know about to Von Dexter, But offensively, I'm 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.400 going to say it's Caleb Williams. I just think less 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.919 is more. He shouldn't put pressure on him to do more. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.600 Less is more for him in order for him to 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.520 get his sea legs under him and get sturdy as 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.800 a quarterback in the NFL. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.120 But you know, I mean, you heard my other choices 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.680 within the division. If I had to now narrow it 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.600 down to one guy with the Bears, I would like 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.200 to see Montese Sweat if he came up and he 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:30.640 had a twelve or fourteen SAX season with the contributions 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.960 of the other guys and the aggressiveness now that the 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.880 defensive coordinator can have on against every one of the opponents. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.520 If Montes Sweat has that type of season, You're going 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.400 to look at some of that resulting in extra possessions 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.080 for the Bears offense, time on the field, and we 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.720 you know, having you know, a defensive MVP from the 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.320 defensive end position from any football team, it really it 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:01.560 sparks a lot of opportunities downfield for the by linebackers 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:02.760 and defensive backs. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.720 I'm gonna throw my angle in it. I agree Golf, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.640 I'm go Jefferson, Minnesota. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:08.680 I love the idea of. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:13.040 Hatlee Halfley for the Packers. Because that's the big change there, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.640 and because of the one ball. We'll discuss this with 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.000 Chris Beatty coming up in segment three, the wide receivers coach, 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.280 So one. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:21.800 Begets the other. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.720 If Montes and his group are killing it, the ball's 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.960 coming out and the ball is getting intercepted. But what 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:32.520 if Jalen Johnson returns a few touchdowns, cleans up some 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.880 of those dropped interceptions a year ago, and shuts down 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:35.960 everybody's top. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.400 Weapon in the division. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.000 He would definitely be a defensive MVP and MVP of 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.720 the team because there's a lot of great receivers. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.280 In the division. All Right, we got to take our 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:45.880 first break. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.760 Adam Rank of NFL Network joins us here on ESPN 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.280 one thousand. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.000 Of the Bears Radio Network is. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.840 Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears for twenty 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.720 three years, Jeff Jonyak on the Bears Radio Network. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.280 This segment of Bears Weekly is brought to you by 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.280 Athletical Physical Therapy. Visit Athletical dot com to request an 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.080 in clinic or virtual deployment that start feeling better tomorrow. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.600 Segment two of Bears Weekly here on ESPN one thousand 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.800 and the Bears Radio Network, Jeff Joniyak tent there, Jim Miller, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.000 and our old pal Adam Rank, Chicago Bears fan but 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:25.800 crazy NFL expert from NFL Network the Sick Podcast. Catch 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.439 him on that and mister Fantasy Football as well. Adam, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.920 thanks for getting up there in California for us. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:32.840 We can see you. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.800 We're only using the audio for the purposes of the show. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.400 But boy, you got got quite the setup back there. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.439 I see a lot of a lot of bibblehead. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.920 You got a fair bobblehead, a Miller bobblehead in the background. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:43.360 What do you got? 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.040 You know, I'm still waiting for it. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.520 You know what I think that they I think we 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.959 should talk to the Bears administration. I think there should 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.200 be some bobblehead. If there isn't, I have not been 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.320 sent one, which is a grave mistake. And number two, 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.719 we should have one, Like why who wouldn't want one? 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.880 I know the Bears already do it job of packing 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.960 the stadium, but that would be a hot ticket. 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.880 I'll tell you what a hot ticket would be, Tom 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.040 and Jim, Tom, there should be the five blocks of 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.880 Granite offensive line of the nineteen eighties through the nineties 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:13.719 of you. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.240 Guys as one big bibblehead. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.840 I'm certain a combined bibblehead has never been done. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.320 What do you think that's gonna come. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.520 Be the only time that we were all the same height, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.000 because when he got Van Horne at six seven, me 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.920 and Jay at about the six three six four, and 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.280 Bortsy's sixty six and Jimbo six ' five, it sure 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.040 would be the first time that we all saw eyed die. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.480 Let me ask you this time because I remember whether 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.880 it's uh, you know, whether it's Olin Crutz or big 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.679 Kat Williams. You know, did you like wearing the darks 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.560 or the whites? Because nobody liked wearing the whites because 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.000 you look like michelin men out there. They always complained 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.760 about the whites when we had to play with. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.440 Yeah, you know, that's kind of funny because McMichael used 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.240 to talk about that all the time because he was 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.560 a big fan of the blue. Because as he pulled 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.720 his white pants up so high, it made his torso 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.000 look like it was about eighteen inches long. So I 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.840 think all of us that carried a little bit of 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.360 extra weight were more. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:11.800 Fan of the blue than the white. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.040 Hey, Adam, that's a great entree into what's going on 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.360 with the Bears. We'll talk about the current iteration twenty 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.760 twenty four bouts to unfold, but the Hall of Fame 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.760 coming up, and then a matter of days really August 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.880 first did the game, the induction a couple of days 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.360 later of Devin Hester, Steve McMichael, and we got to 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.680 give it to Julius Peppers as well. He had a 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.959 great career obviously with the Carolina Panthers and Green Bay 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.040 Packers as well as a Bears fan. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.840 It's a big day. It's a big day with a 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:40.680 triple threat there. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.679 No, it is huge, and I think for a lot 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.760 of us, we've wanted to see Devin Hester in the 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.920 Hall of Fame for quite some time. I think for 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.040 a big reason why is during the era that he played, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.280 he was the biggest weapon for this team, and so 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.840 much so that Tony Dungee fretted about it during the 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.760 before the Super Bowl and was determined not to kick 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.640 in the ball and then decided at the last moment 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.760 or overnight or whatever, it. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.640 Was like I'm not going to let somebody do this 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:09.880 to me. 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.199 And then they kicked it to him and he returned 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.120 it for a touchdown and then I don't know what 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.960 happened the rest of the game, but still in that 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.160 moment one of the brightest moments for a lot of people. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:20.719 And so it was great to see him in And 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.800 it's interesting too that he's going into the Hall of 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.800 Fame the same year that the Bears took Tory Taylor 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.480 at number four or in the fourth round, I should say, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.280 because we've been preaching special teams for the last six years, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:34.920 trying to get Devin Hester into the Hall of Fame. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.920 You're like, yeah, like this is this is how important 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.120 it is, like how important special teams players are. So 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.720 it's great to see Devin Hester. And we've talked about 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.880 see McMichael every time that we come on, and I 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.640 can't talk about it enough about how great he was 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.680 as a player. You know that that's one of the 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.360 things about the eighty five Bears is the personalities. And 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.600 it's hard to be, you know, with a with such 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.840 a great team and still try to find your way 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.160 is a part of it, and Steve McMichael is certainly 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.480 one of those guys, and I think statistically belonged to 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.040 the Hall of Fame a long time ago. Finally getting 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.560 his due and I remember I always joke about this too, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.200 because he was one of my dad's favorite players, and 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.480 then he went into professional wrestling, which I was into, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.920 and like, oh my god, Michael's here. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.520 And so for a lot of people who who. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.560 Enjoyed wrestling who might not have been, you know, either 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.839 alive during the time of the Bears playing in the 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.760 eighties or just didn't realize, like, no, he was an 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.920 excellent football player too, So it's good to see him there. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:31.680 And I know that you're. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.480 Being very nice to Julius Peppers. I don't know that 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.319 I will be, but those two guys, it's great having them. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:37.480 You know. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.599 I want to ask one question about the Hall of 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.719 Fame game, because we're talking about Devin Haster, we're talking 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.320 about Steve McMichael, we're talking about this short term career 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.480 that Julius Peppers had with the Chicago Bears. But and 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.720 I don't know if he'll play a player, no plays. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.520 But we don't talk about Caleb Williams at all. And 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.800 that's his first NFL game, first time he's going to 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.880 walk onto a field. But we're talking about being ductees, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.960 not about the newcomers. So I find that kind of 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.760 funny that as much as attention as we are giving 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.520 Devin and Ming and so on and so forth, that 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 we're really not given a lot of attention to a 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:14.679 cast of players. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:15.200 Including CJ. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.160 Stroud, who came on and have one of the most 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.640 explosive rookie seasons of any quarterback in the history of 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:22.200 the league. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:23.600 Yeah, it'll be interesting. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.800 I was thinking about that too, and I'm actually curious 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.880 to see how Caleb sort of handles it because everything 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.880 that he's done since he's been drafted, he's really ingratiated 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.240 himself to the Chicago community. You know, you see him 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.720 around town, you see him at ballgames, you see him 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.080 joining in chance with the fans, and so I'm curious 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.960 how he plays this because he's done such a nice job. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.080 I want to see. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.120 I'm sure there's gonna be something, you know what I like. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.480 I'm sure there's gonna be some sort of homage, And 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.600 I'm excited for the Bears to really embrace this. And 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.720 it's one of the things that I've really enjoyed about 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.880 the short tenure of Ryan Pole. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.240 Not that the Bears have never embraced. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.080 The past, but there's really been an emphasis on owning 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.280 the Bears legacy, and it's always been kind of a 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.280 shock to me because you know, this is a team 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.800 that's won nine NFL championships. I know, the super Bowl, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.400 the last Super Bowl win hasn't been since the eighties. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.400 But there is still a great lineage here for this team. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.680 So I'm I'm curious to see how it plays. But 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.120 like you said, you know, you would think that it 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.280 would all be about it would be all about Caleb 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:29.240 because this is gonna be the friend. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.120 He's probably not gonna. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.400 Play, and he'll be on the sideline and he'll be 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.760 you know, interviewed during the game at some point. But 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.760 it is about the guys going in and I think 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.680 that's a that's a nice tribute to those fellas. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.680 You know, it's interesting, Adam, because this new kickoff rule, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.760 I think one of the reasons why it passed because 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.320 of great players like like Devin Hester. You know, nobody's 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.720 done what he's done in the game as a returner 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.480 and it you know, you look at the Bears, they 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:57.000 just signed DeAndre Carter. Teams are teams are investing now 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.320 back into special teams and just how to you think 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:01.920 it's all going to play out? We may not see 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.640 a lot in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe teams 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.520 don't want to show what they're going to do in 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.400 the preseason, but you know it's going to be interesting 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:09.680 how it all plays out. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.640 No, and I think a lot of people too were 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.040 talking about Baylis Jones junior, you know, how this could 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.720 be an opportunity for him to really show himself. They 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.120 and they brought in Carter, as you said, because they 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.160 want a competition there, because they know how important it is. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.640 And so for me, I thought it was kind of 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.840 a disservice to get rid of that part of the game. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.360 And again we're spoiled because we're Bears fans. We had 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.000 Devin Hester for so so long. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:33.840 But it's like the. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.680 Kickoffs used to be exciting, Like growing up that was 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.040 that was a real exciting time to watch those kickoffs. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.200 And I understand player safety is of the utmost importance, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.280 but you really want to go out there and bring 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.640 back that element of the game, bring the special teams 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.160 back into it. And so again, with what the Bears 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.280 have done during this offseason, it shows me that they're 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.560 really serious about special teams and making this a huge advantage. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.640 And so I again like you, I don't think we're 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.080 gonna see much of it in the Hall of Fame game, 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.480 but I can't wait to see a play out during 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:04.959 the season. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.399 Heck, justin fields are turning a kickoff at the start 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.600 of the Madden twenty five revealed trailer apparently today, how 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.440 about that? But yes, wearing his number two, but it 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:21.120 was a double reverse again kicking off the idea literally 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.800 that there are going to be some very exciting plays 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.679 in the return game in twenty twenty four and beyond. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.879 Hopefully, hopefully, I would love. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.440 To see that. I know that there was a joke 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.679 made about it, but at some point, you know, and 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.560 people are, you know, oh, we don't want to risk 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.359 our back up. But like remember when Cordell Stewart was 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.840 playing like that was such a huge advantage. Anton Randall 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.800 l you know, was a good college quarterback in Indiana 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.199 and went on to be a special team's ace. And 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.399 I think there's a real you know, like there's a 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.800 way to really embrace what you're good at. You know, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.359 if you think back to Tim Tebow a couple of 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.919 years ago, like he kept giving it a go at quarterback, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.919 and not to compare these two, but it's like, you know, 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.560 at some point he realized, like I need to find 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.159 other ways to really to get on the field, and 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.320 he realized it too late. I'm curious to see what 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.880 the Steelers do and the special teams. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:11.159 Aspect of it. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.560 That's something that I thought about, and it's a Madden player. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.440