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Speaker 1: the fisch Stripes podcast channel with me Eli Sussman, the

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Speaker 1: managing editor of fish Stripes, where we cover your Miami

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Speaker 1: Marlins every day in our own way. Even though this

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Speaker 1: is an off day for the team, quite a lot

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Speaker 1: of business to get into here. We have some breaking news.

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Speaker 1: There's no game, but later tonight Marlin's Jeopardy episode on

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Speaker 1: our fish Strips YouTube, Facebook and Twitter platforms. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you'll tune into that, and we have our usual string

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Speaker 1: of analysis on our website, fishstripes dot com. Breaking down

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Speaker 1: one of the low points of this Marlins season. I

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Speaker 1: six games below five hundred. We have a new trade

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Speaker 1: very unusual situation coming up where the Marlins could have

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Speaker 1: as many as three players all simultaneously returning from the

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Speaker 1: injury list. If they come in, who goes out? Want

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Speaker 1: to break that down from all angles and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: to get your perspective on all of that We're going

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Speaker 1: to check in with all the Marlins Twitter gms and

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Speaker 1: the Marlins put together the best possible twenty six man

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Speaker 1: group to turn their season around, because they really need it.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of this break, we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: all of that stick with us. A surprising trade coming

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Speaker 1: to us on this Marlins Thursday off day with the

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Speaker 1: team San Francisco Giants that makes about as many trades

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Speaker 1: as anybody else. Their roster turn is next level stuff.

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Speaker 1: They've recently designated Luke Williams for Simon, a utility player,

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Speaker 1: and a few days later he winds up with Miami

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Speaker 1: in exchange for minor league infielder Hayden Cantrell. So a

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Speaker 1: He was drafted way back in twenty fifteen with the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: The Marlins, if they want to, they could keep them.

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Speaker 1: They could stow him in Triple A this year and

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Speaker 1: I said he was a utility guy and that might

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Speaker 1: For Luke Williams, the downside with him is that he

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