WEBVTT - EPISODE 28: Playoff Intel and a historic interview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Of twenty four hour NBA News.

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<v Speaker 3>This is you, Chris Haynes. It's time, work's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, it's so time. This League Uncut is underway and

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. This should be a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>A different kind of show, a different kind of this

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<v Speaker 4>league Uncut. Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. Back here

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<v Speaker 4>with you, recording on a Sunday night for a Monday

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<v Speaker 4>morning drop. A little bit closer to the usual schedule

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<v Speaker 4>this time of year. Of course, the vagaries of Chris

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<v Speaker 4>Haynes's travel schedule. He's got to do sideline. He's going

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<v Speaker 4>from series to series to series. So we're back on

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<v Speaker 4>our normal track, able to get together here on this

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday night. We're gonna start off with some playoff talk,

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<v Speaker 4>but also we do have an interview with Dink Pate,

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<v Speaker 4>Dallas based six ' eight point guard, seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 4>huge newsmaker because he's foregoing his senior year.

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<v Speaker 2>Of high school.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a junior in high school right now, but he

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<v Speaker 4>is basically he's committed to a two year deal with

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<v Speaker 4>the G League Ignite for next season and the season

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<v Speaker 4>after not eligible for the NBA Draft until twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>but he has basically committed his next two years to

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<v Speaker 4>playing for the G League Ignite, as Scoot Henderson did,

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<v Speaker 4>but even younger than Scoot as he makes this jump,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's not going to college, not even going to

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<v Speaker 4>finish his senior year of high school, going to go

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<v Speaker 4>right to the pros with the G League Ignite. We

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<v Speaker 4>have a fun conversation with Dink to kind of get

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<v Speaker 4>his story, get his perspective as he makes this very

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<v Speaker 4>early move to the pros at the age of seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said, we will start with the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>The first week of the NBA Playoffs hasn't been the funnest.

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<v Speaker 4>So many big injuries, so many significant injuries, so much

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<v Speaker 4>focus on officiating, and look, that always happens in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course it does. We know that injuries impact every postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>Officiating controversies are always in the headlines. It just feels

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<v Speaker 4>like this year it's that way from the jump because again,

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<v Speaker 4>just so many you know, Job missing a game, giannisnd

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<v Speaker 4>Decumpo and Kawhi Leonard missing two each, Joel Embiid missing

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<v Speaker 4>a game, Tyler Hero with the broken hand and then

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<v Speaker 4>the awful Victor Oladipo scene Saturday night that really tough

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<v Speaker 4>to watch him just drive down, you know, drive into

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<v Speaker 4>the paint and his left knee just buckled. It was awful,

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<v Speaker 4>awful to watch. So I mean, you know, we're recording

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<v Speaker 4>this now on Sunday night. The Sunday games have in

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<v Speaker 4>you know, much better. I think, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we we can rightly get excited about the scenes that

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<v Speaker 4>we saw, you know, Nix and calvs.

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<v Speaker 2>Game four.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of stakes there, obviously New York seizing a

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<v Speaker 4>three to one lead, and we know what happens when

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<v Speaker 4>teams go up three to one.

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<v Speaker 2>So big performance for the Knicks to win that game.

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<v Speaker 4>For huge decision from Tom Thibodeaux to go away from

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<v Speaker 4>Julius Randall in the fourth quarter. Tom Thibodeaux, who's really

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<v Speaker 4>seen as one of the more rigid coaches in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 4>and he totally goes away from the script with Toppin

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<v Speaker 4>and Hartenstein out there with Jalen Brunson and Josh hart

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<v Speaker 4>a combination that he hasn't been using in the Knicks

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<v Speaker 4>pull away in the fourth quarter and win that game,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Warriors Kings. The series that Chris is headed

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<v Speaker 4>to for Game five, Warriors down to one, They're getting

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<v Speaker 4>Draymond Green back.

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<v Speaker 2>They pull that thing out.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Haynes, are you ready to step into the cauldron

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<v Speaker 4>that is going to be Warriors at Kings Game five

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<v Speaker 4>in your home city where you now reside. Chris Haynes

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<v Speaker 4>gets a home game this.

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<v Speaker 3>Week, first time, Yeah, first time. I'm excited because I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't experienced that atmosphere yet, that playoff atmosphere with the Kings,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I'll be missing a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of the real, true, authentic atmosphere because they've banned the

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<v Speaker 3>cowbells now, so I won't get I won't get to

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<v Speaker 3>hear that now.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that they have.

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<v Speaker 3>They have, So I'm gonna tell you why. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>you asked that. Stun So. There was a video of

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<v Speaker 3>a fan who was sitting right behind Bob Myers and

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<v Speaker 3>while the Kings were beating up on the Warriors, He's

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<v Speaker 3>just rigging this bell right behind Bob Myers's head, like

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<v Speaker 3>he's right behind him. The bell is like a few

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<v Speaker 3>inches from Bob Myers's head and he's just banging that

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<v Speaker 3>bell banging that bell, and it was it was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't right, that was disrespectful, just doing too much.

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<v Speaker 3>And so after that, the Kings the band, so they

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<v Speaker 3>banned the King Kings fans for bringing in the cowbell

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<v Speaker 3>So what I will say is this, I was told

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<v Speaker 3>by Raymond Ritter, the Warriors pr ficionado, one of your

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<v Speaker 3>best friends, Din one of my good friends as well,

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<v Speaker 3>that the NBA had outlawed for all NBA teams that

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<v Speaker 3>they can't bring any noises, they can't bring any type

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<v Speaker 3>of contra yeah noise, yeah, noise making devices. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was already a law within the NBA, but they allowed

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<v Speaker 3>for Kings fans to continue that because that was always

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<v Speaker 3>a tradition with the cowbells. So that fan pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>messed it up for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing about that video, though, like what little we

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<v Speaker 4>saw of it, Bob Myers was so stoic, like he

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't even reacting to the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess, like I said this, I totally missed.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see the announcement that the cow bells will

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<v Speaker 4>not be allowed for Game five. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>on one hand, it's always been a feature of Kings games.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't anyone get mad at the messenger. We have

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest here. It's the first time in seventeen seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember it was a sixteen year playoff drought. First time

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<v Speaker 4>in seventeen years that we've seen the Kings in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>So what was maybe the passable norm in two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and six and the years before, not necessarily the norm anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's really interesting that this in series change is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna happen. It's still gonna be plenty loud. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we know that Sacramento crowd is absolutely gonna go nuts there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the question is did they I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Have they Yeah, they missed a golden opportunity in Game

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<v Speaker 3>three style, they missed a golden opportunity with Raymond being

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<v Speaker 3>out that hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because look, I think the Warriors really made it

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<v Speaker 4>a priority. In Game four, They've really gone after Sabonis. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they've found something there. We saw Draymond's impact defensively.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the guy is an absolute game changer at

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<v Speaker 4>that end. Two late stops that were really momentum shifting

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<v Speaker 4>and despite all of the Warriors crazy mistakes in the

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<v Speaker 4>last minute. I mean I never would have imagined calling

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<v Speaker 4>Steph calling a timeout when they didn't have one and

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<v Speaker 4>everything that went down. But yeah, now that that thing

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<v Speaker 4>is two too. I mean, you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>must win, must capital m must win Game five for Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 4>and the fact that it's Wednesday, you know, gives the

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<v Speaker 4>older team a little extra time to recharge. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I still keep believing even though this Warriors

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<v Speaker 4>team has been so bad on the road all season long. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>they've got that NBA record twenty seven playoff series in

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<v Speaker 4>a row with at least one road win. I came

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<v Speaker 4>into this series thinking Warriors and six. I mean that

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<v Speaker 4>this is the big you know, this is the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>playoff game possible for Sacramento to really validate this season

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<v Speaker 4>they've had.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't they can't lose this Game five.

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<v Speaker 3>And this where pressure comes into play. Are the Sacramento

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<v Speaker 3>Kings for real? Yes, we know they're for real, we

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<v Speaker 3>know they're They're not the team that they used to be,

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<v Speaker 3>but now their backs are against the wall. And one thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, the one thing that we all have kind

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<v Speaker 3>of favored is that the Golden State Wars have history

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<v Speaker 3>on their side. They have a DNA on their side,

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<v Speaker 3>so you give them the benefit of the doubt, and

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<v Speaker 3>you picked the Wars at six done. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>like it seems like you still feel pretty good about

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<v Speaker 3>about that, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, I think they already the Kings already showed us

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<v Speaker 4>something winning the first two. I mean, look, not that

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<v Speaker 4>my predictions are worth anything. I thought gold I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think there was any way the Kings go up to ZIP.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Golden State was for sure going to find

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<v Speaker 4>a way to win one of those first two games

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<v Speaker 4>on the road, and that quickly the Warriors would have

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<v Speaker 4>snuffed out all the talk about how bad they've been

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<v Speaker 4>on the road this season if they get one of

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<v Speaker 4>those first two and they couldn't. I mean, the Kings

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<v Speaker 4>have already, you know, acquitted themselves really really well in

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<v Speaker 4>this series, and you're gonna be right in the heart

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<v Speaker 4>of it. It's gonna be I mean, that is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a game of just massive interest. I think

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<v Speaker 4>this series has been the spiciest of the first rounders

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<v Speaker 4>and the one that you know, it had the most

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<v Speaker 4>potential going in, and it's living up to it so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet too well so. The Kings and Warriors series had

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<v Speaker 3>some competition initially, the Clipper Sons. They were on part

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<v Speaker 3>right there with them. Man, you probably could make an

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<v Speaker 3>argument it's probably even more intrigued until things happen over there.

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<v Speaker 3>But this King's Warriors game right here, man, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>down to the wire. It's going to be tough. It

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<v Speaker 3>has the potential to go games, to go seven games.

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<v Speaker 3>But you just the war is they've been here, they've

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<v Speaker 3>been here, and this is where the inexperience could play

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<v Speaker 3>a factor. You know, we'll see the Sacramento Kings are

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<v Speaker 3>proven teams wrong. Mike Brown said on this very pod,

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<v Speaker 3>remember when we were talking about when we shared it

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<v Speaker 3>with him that you know there are teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>aiming for them, and he said, okay, well that's good,

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<v Speaker 3>and he played that. He played that SoundBite to us.

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<v Speaker 3>He played it to his team. He said, because if

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<v Speaker 3>we're as good as we think we are, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to show as whenever up to oh you couldn't argue

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<v Speaker 3>at all, but it takes two more to advance. So

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. I'm looking forward to that atmosphere again

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<v Speaker 3>for my first time working a TNT game at home.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going to be cool. I'm actually not going

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<v Speaker 3>to a hotel. I'm going to my house. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>stay up. I'm gonna stay at the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's a mistake or not, but

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<v Speaker 3>I've got because I don't want to set the president.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want them to be like Chris, you know what, man,

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna send you, send you to covering all the

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<v Speaker 3>Kings games. We're like, okay, but yeah, you gotta stay home.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to set that precedent, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Because I might I might be in trouble

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<v Speaker 3>at the house. I may need that hotel from time

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<v Speaker 3>to time, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, since we're living vicariously through you, before we even get.

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<v Speaker 2>To all of those difficult decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>So you got Lakers Grizzlies Game four Monday?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, That is correct, that Monday, So that would be

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be tomorrow when it's pod drops. Yeah, so yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Same day as this is when this pod drops. But

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to the series that you've

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<v Speaker 4>been You've done three of the four games in the

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<v Speaker 4>Sun's Clippers series. Obviously, Clippers get the game one win

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<v Speaker 4>even without Paul George, but now Kawhi Leonard has missed

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<v Speaker 4>the last two games, Phoenix has seized a three to

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<v Speaker 4>one lead. I do think, you know, look, the Suns

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna win this series now. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>see them letting a three to one lead slip. I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 4>let's start here. What what can you tell us about

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<v Speaker 4>kawhi situation? Is there any hope for the Clippers to

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<v Speaker 4>get him back on the floor in this series.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see it. I don't see it. Even if

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<v Speaker 3>the Suns were to extend I mean, excuse me, even

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<v Speaker 3>if the Clippers were to extend this series to Game seven,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see it. You know, I reported yesterday that

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<v Speaker 3>during the game broadcast that you know, he experienced swelling

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<v Speaker 3>after Game two, was prompted him to get evaluated, and

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<v Speaker 3>after that evaluation, he was recommended that he's sit rested,

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<v Speaker 3>wait till the swelling goes down. And as of yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>I was told that there was still swelling in the knee.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's a tough situation for the Clippers, definitely tough.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not something I know for sure. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not something that is milking. This is not something that

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<v Speaker 3>uh that Kawhi had a had a call on it

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<v Speaker 3>was he was advised to let this rest to prevent

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<v Speaker 3>further damaging that knee. And so it's a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I don't expect them even if they did

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<v Speaker 3>extend it to Game seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, it's awful because this is year four of this

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just no matter what happens one way or

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<v Speaker 4>the other, the Clippers can't get their full team on

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<v Speaker 4>the court. And you know, the natural question is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be where do they go from here? And it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's you know, it's not a clear answer because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they gave up all those picks and shake Gil just

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander to bring Paul George in. Uh, you know, Paul

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<v Speaker 4>George obviously needed the Clippers to get realistic. Paul George

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<v Speaker 4>needed the Clippers to at least reach the second round

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<v Speaker 4>to have any shot to play in these playoffs. And

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<v Speaker 4>the question is, you know, I don't have the answer

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<v Speaker 4>today on you know, we're recording this on Sunday, but

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be April twenty fourth when this thing drops. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't tell you on April twenty fourth what the Clippers

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<v Speaker 4>are going to do. But a lot of people around

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<v Speaker 4>the league are going to be talking about it, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, do.

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<v Speaker 4>You keep the Kawhi Paul George tandem together and try

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<v Speaker 4>again to refresh the cast around them and see if

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<v Speaker 4>you can get them both right for playoff time? Are

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<v Speaker 4>they going to look into Paul George's trade market again?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the answer to that at this early juncture,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean, we know Steve Balmer will spend anything

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<v Speaker 4>it takes to win. We know they've got this amazing

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<v Speaker 4>new arena coming and by all accounts, anybody who's seen

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<v Speaker 4>any of it says it is truly amazing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what kind of changes can the Clippers make after a

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<v Speaker 4>season like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Out like this again, not being able to have their

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<v Speaker 4>two stars in the court, dispiriting to stay the least.

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<v Speaker 3>And one thing that complicates matters I wouldn't say use

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<v Speaker 3>comp maybe that's the wrong word, but you have to

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<v Speaker 3>remember the the Clippers are going to open up in

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<v Speaker 3>that new arena for the let me see, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be the twenty twenty four season. So they want to

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<v Speaker 3>open that arena up with some star power. They want

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<v Speaker 3>it to be a main attraction. They're trying to take

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<v Speaker 3>over the city of Los Angeles, and the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>they want to do is start start off in that

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<v Speaker 3>new arena with a lackluster team. So Kawhi Leonard and

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<v Speaker 3>Paul George, you know, might be their best options to stick,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, stick, stick, see it through. I should say,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when the Golden State Warriors went through that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that was always that was always a tough

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<v Speaker 3>year for them to go and open up Chase Center

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<v Speaker 3>and they weren't hold. Klay Thompson had his injury, Kevin

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<v Speaker 3>Durant left and it took them out of championship contention

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<v Speaker 3>and it suffered. You know, they suffered for the first

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years. So you know that's that's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to be on Steve Barmber's mind. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to have a title contending team to open

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<v Speaker 3>up that building. So he's going to definitely he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to urge the front office to see what they can do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, I don't know if they'll be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do better than what they have right now.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the star players that they have.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean you said that the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty five season, that is when the Clippers are

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<v Speaker 4>scheduled to move in to their new into It Dome

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not even sure, but it's in Englewood, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously they've poured bazillions into this thing. One

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<v Speaker 4>point two billion, I think is the last figure.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, it's gonna be state of the art, and you're right,

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 4>Ballmer's gonna want a state of the art team in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, having done that series three of the four

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<v Speaker 4>games to this point, what's what's the vibe around the Clippers?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how would you describe it being close to

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<v Speaker 4>that team? And I mean again, they started so well

0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.359
<v Speaker 4>with the game, you know, they steal Game one, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the way it's just gone now, I mean they

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<v Speaker 4>must be they must be down.

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<v Speaker 3>The way I would describe it is basically like, here

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<v Speaker 3>we go again. Yeah, that's that's it. Here we go again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's par for the course. You know, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>there's always something that just falls from up under them,

0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, at the wrong time, and I guess there's

0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 3>really not a right time. But yeah, I mean they're

0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 3>they're accustomed to this, unfortunately, And you know, the bright

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<v Speaker 3>thing about this this run or this playoff serious Stein

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<v Speaker 3>is the player Russell Westbrook. Man, Oh, he's been phenomenal.

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 3>He's been phenomenal. I know people wonder if he still

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<v Speaker 3>had it, still had it on that level. Man, he's

0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.080
<v Speaker 3>been keeping this team aflow. Even that game won when

0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 3>he shot atrociously and we talked about it. He made

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:26.879
<v Speaker 3>key plays, great plays down the stretch, defensively setting his

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.480
<v Speaker 3>teammates up offensive rebounder. But he's been torturing the Suns

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 3>right now. He's been there long. Him and Noman Pal

0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I should say, been really good. But it's just not enough.

0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not enough, and they're deeper. They're still deep. Well,

0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.080
<v Speaker 3>they're one of the deepest teams, the Clippers in the league.

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you take KD and Paul George, that kind

0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 3>of dampers that a little bit, but it's still they

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<v Speaker 3>can't combat the sons of KD and Devin Booker, who

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<v Speaker 3>are playing amazingly. Chris Paul got his rhythm back offensively

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.200
<v Speaker 3>in Game four. The Sons still don't have a bitch.

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.720
<v Speaker 3>They're relying a lot on their starters. But we even

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<v Speaker 3>with all that said, Bea said, Clippers don't have enough.

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't expect it to go beyond Game five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, you said it. That has been the one

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<v Speaker 2>silver lining.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the Clippers were so roundly second guest for

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<v Speaker 4>even wanting to bring Russell Westbrook in. You can't even

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<v Speaker 4>imagine them now if they didn't have him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been huge in this series, and I think a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people are happy for us that he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>finding some measure of redemption in this postseason, even though

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.679
<v Speaker 4>again it's you know, it's not gonna be enough to

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<v Speaker 4>get them to the second round. I think the other

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<v Speaker 4>big storyline here is you know, you said it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Durant and Devin Booker are They're playing a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of minutes, like I have to think the Denver Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 4>who as we're taping this, Denver is early in its

0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.719
<v Speaker 4>game in Minneso. So it's, you know, as we're taping this,

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 4>we don't know if the Nuggets are finishing this thing

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 4>off in four games or if they're gonna have to

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.680
<v Speaker 4>close it out in five. But I think Denver has

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 4>to feel really good looking at the demands that many

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Williams has to put on Kevin Durant and Devin Booker

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 4>just because they they don't have a bench.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's gonna be. You ain't gonna be able

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 3>to change that during the playoffs. There's no there's no

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.440
<v Speaker 3>transactions you can make during the postseeds. So they're gonna

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 3>have to deal with it. And you know, MANI Williams said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, guys, don't you know? We talked. I talked

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 3>to him before the game, before Game four, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he knows that's getting a lot of tensions the minutes

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<v Speaker 3>that he puts on the start and five. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>but look if you compare the guys in the eighties

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<v Speaker 3>and nineties where they played the same amount of minutes

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<v Speaker 3>and they practiced two hours a day. Said, we don't

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 3>practice like that at all, he said. So he say,

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<v Speaker 3>feels still feels like he has some cushion, But it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be you know, you just you just hope.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see any more injuries, man, I

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 3>don't want to see any more injuries. It's it's been

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 3>a brutal postseason thus far to seeing guys, seeing guys

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<v Speaker 3>go down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only depot thing was awful.

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean I I rattled my whole house and made

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 4>some kind of noise of just shock and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was awful.

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 5>It was just awful.

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Oladipo has been through so much injury wise these last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years. Just sickening to see that. I mean,

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 4>in Milwaukee, how bad must the back be for Giannis

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<v Speaker 4>to miss too? I mean, Jis does not miss, sure

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 4>for him to miss, I mean for him to miss too.

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<v Speaker 4>And Milwaukee, who really was the closest thing to a

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<v Speaker 4>favorite to win it all, is you know, down to

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<v Speaker 4>one as we speak, with Jannis not being able to

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<v Speaker 4>play two of the three games. So I mean Joel

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Embiid situation, that's yet another one where we've got Doc

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 4>River saying, you know, a Philly Boston matchup is still theoretical.

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Boston still needs one more win to finish off the Hawks,

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 4>but as we were recording this podcast, the Celtics go

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 4>up three to one on the Hawks with a Game

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 4>four win in Atlanta. Boston only needs one more home

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 4>win obviously to finish that thing off, but that series

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't even start until Saturday. But even that might not

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.439
<v Speaker 4>be enough time for Joel Embiid to be back in

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 4>the lineup, according to Doc Rivers. So it's just been

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 4>one thing after another and again, injuries always impact the postseason.

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 4>That is nothing new, but to have so many injuries

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 4>of consequence this early, it's rough. So as we speak

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 4>now again we're recording this on Sunday night while the

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Nuggets and Wolves are locked into a game for Denver

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 4>going for the sweep here.

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But as we speak, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Only series that's over is Philly Brooklyn. And I'm sure

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:08.160
<v Speaker 4>you saw this. Chris Haynes, a player that I think

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 4>you know pretty well, Chris Haynes. Damian Lillard of the

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Portland Trailblazers suddenly appeared courtside for Game three of that

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Sixers Nets series, And of course that sent NBA Twitter

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 4>into a tizzy because naturally there was a lot of

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 4>conclusion jumping.

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Does Dame want to be a Sixer? Does Dame want

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a net? Why is he courtside?

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 4>He loves McHale Bridges like, what is he doing there?

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 4>Can you and obviously I was understating it before. Can

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 4>you the NBA's foremost Dame ologist, can you explain? Can

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 4>you shed any light on why Damian Lillard all of

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 4>a sudden appeared at a NETS Sixers playoff game in Brooklyn?

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 3>So all of this because he went to a game.

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's what we do in the that's what we

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 4>do in the media. We blow things out of proportion.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so listen, I pretty much knew the reason he went,

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 3>but I made a call. I made a call to

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Damien Little himself before we started this podcast, and and

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to get get it clear, get it straight.

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 3>He told me he went there for some meetings, and

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 3>he went there for some projects. He's some musical projects

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 3>he's working on, and he wanted me to announce that

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 3>he's dropping his new album next month. He didn't give

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 3>me the name. He didn't give me who's being featured

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.479
<v Speaker 3>on it as of right now, but he's dropping his

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 3>new album next month. Also, Michel Bridges, you know, that's

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 3>a really good friend of his. And he said he

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 3>went out there support him. And this was his first

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 3>NBA game attending as a professional player. He's never attended

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 3>another NBA game since he was drafted in two thousand.

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>So his fan debut court sid.

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. It's fan debut. And I know people making the

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 3>connection and all that stuff, trying to connect dots. There's

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>no dots to be connected right now. But I will

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 3>add this. Stein, he told me this. He also tried

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 3>to get a court side seat to the Knicks game,

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 3>but they couldn't accommodate him. They didn't have a ticket,

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 3>they couldn't get him a ticket for the seat that

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 3>he wanted. And the Brooklyn Nets were the only team

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 3>that was able to accommodate him to get a court

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 3>side seat. So you actually would have seen him at

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>a Nets and the next game, but he couldn't get

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 3>the CD wanted and Styn.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't look at now. I will just say this.

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<v Speaker 4>I will just say this, court side seats at Madison

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Square Garden right now have to be very, very very

0:25:58.480 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 4>in demand.

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>The Knicks are as.

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Hot as they've been for ten years, twenty years. I

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 4>mean the two games there this weekend, the raucousness of

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 4>the crowd, the.

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're saying this wise steincause.

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, Oh, I'm saying all that, but I'm

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 4>saying but that was kind of my lead in to say,

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 4>if Damian Lillard wants a court side ticket, somehow I'm

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 4>finding a way to get him aside ticket, no matter

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:26.959
<v Speaker 4>how in demand it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Stein. Look, I've watched you know, I watched those next games,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 3>especially in the playoffs, and they always show the stars

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 3>and the celebrities that are there, and I'm like, come

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 3>on now, I'm seeing some of these people and I'm like,

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 3>come on now, you got them, Dame, Dame. You couldn't

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 3>accommodate Dame. It's not like he's asking for a discount.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 3>He's going he's going to pay the money, Dame Lillard.

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the Knicks couldn't have come there. They couldn't

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 3>get them in. So Dame was not able to sit

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 3>courtside of the Necks game.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, not the content, not where I thought this story

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 4>was going. But that's where that's why we that's why

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 4>we consult the NBA's foremost damologist for the real for

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>the real story.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you be buying Dame's latest album Stein?

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I will be waiting for the media review copy.

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, so you're gonna wait for me, that's what

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 3>you said. That's what you said, wait for me to

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 3>tell you how it is.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, But you know, if you want to do a review,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 4>if you want to do a formal review, you know

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 4>we should.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 2>We should do that. We should, we should let you

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>give it a formal review.

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I've gave Dame some suggestions on which way he should

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 3>go with this next album. I want to see if

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 3>he follows suit.

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I've actually been and what's your gut? Will he listen

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>or is he No?

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think he'll listen. No, I don't think

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>he'll listen. But I gave it anyway. So I've actually

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>been in the studio with Dame a few times. And

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I remember one time when to the studio. We're in

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 3>LA this off season, probably about five years ago, and

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 3>he said, come up to the studio. I forgot where

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 3>the studio was at, but I went, and it's funny.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 3>It gave me see start this is the state. I'm

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 3>not gonna put your business out there, but you you

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 3>know a little bit about man. Yeah, okay, okay.

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I am not qualified in any way, shape or form

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 4>to me.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 3>You have. Yeah, you're associated somehow, You're associated somehow with

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>this feel. That's all I will say. But it's really

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>interesting how the the process of coming up with ideas

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 3>and stories in the studio. It's it's it's interesting how

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>it comes about. So I was in the studio and

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>it's Dame and there's a producer, you know, at the

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>desk and he's playing Dame songs, playing them songs, and

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 3>they just excuse me playing them instrumentals. They just keep

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>going over instrumentals. So this process is about it's ours.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 3>You're playing, you're playing different instrumentals. You're seeing what sticks in,

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's what it's about. So there's food there, everything,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 3>you're there, you just kind of want to stay in.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 3>As an artist, you just stay in the room and

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>you just see what creative juices start to flow. And

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 3>so Dam's doing this for a few hours and then

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, Too Short comes in, and I'm like,

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>what in the world. Too Short comes through? So Too

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Short comes in and I'm like, wow, this is crazy.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>So Too Short sits there and they just start listening.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And so there's like no plan for those two to

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>collab and do a project, but they just listening to

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 3>see if there's a track that they both can vibe to.

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 3>And while I was there because I had to leave,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, no music being made. I'm gone. So

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>as I leave, here comes Lil Wayne comes in. Then

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I stay. I'm like i gotta stay for this. Little

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Wayne comes in. Same thing. Music is being played, so

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>there was nothing done on that day that I witnessed,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 3>But it was just interesting to see how the process

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 3>of creating music goes and how, you know, how each

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 3>artist goes about it.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So this was all in La.

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>This is all in LA about four or five years ago.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Quite a life.

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 4>You lead, Quite a life.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Stein. One day, I'm gonna get you to reveal your

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>real life. You like, you'd like to keep it all hidden,

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 3>but people will be very soil life.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so boring. Nobody wants to hear about my life.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 4>But next we are going to throw it to the interview.

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 4>We promised you. We have Dink Pate who just signed

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 4>a contract that will make him the youngest known American

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 4>born professional basketball player.

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>In the NBA.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 4>Let's check out our convo with Dink right now.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think it's important on occasion to highlight

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 3>some of the up and coming players that you're going

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>to see in this league, and this is one right here.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>He pretty much made history, and we're going to have

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 3>him on the episode. He's actually in Stein's own backyard.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 3>This brother right here goes by the name of Dick

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>pay DP. He just signed with the G League Knight

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 3>and he made American history because this kid is seventeen,

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>but he reclassified. He's really from the class of twenty

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty four of high school. Reclassified twenty twenty three. He

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>entered the Pro Arena G League Knight, and so he'll

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>be eligible for the NBA Draft in twenty twenty five

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>and he'll get a chance to play with the G

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 3>League Knight for two years prior. And so that's the

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 3>youngest American professional basketball player that we know of DP.

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for coming on, man, I just want to

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>ask real quick man, what has it been like since

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 3>you made your decision to reclassify and ultimately sign with

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>the G League Knight.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's been crazy. You know, the Internet, every

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 5>thing is been everything's been blown up since that day.

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.479
<v Speaker 5>But you know, trying to stay off of that and

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 5>keep my mind focused on my main goal, which is,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, going to the G League and getting ready

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 5>to play against pro level guys. Is that's my main

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 5>focus right now.

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.959
<v Speaker 4>Obviously you probably had a zillion colleges coming after you.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 4>How long have you been thinking about going this route

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 4>instead to basically make a two year commitment with the

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 4>G League to Night because obviously you don't have a choice.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 4>You're not draft eligible till twenty twenty five because the

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 4>NBA rules, Like, how did this even come into your

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 4>thinking of this is the option I need to take.

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 5>When I was younger, I was always you know, before

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 5>I even knew what Overseas was or the G League,

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 5>I always told myself, like, I'm just not gonna go

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 5>to college basketball wise, I always my mindset has always

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 5>been pro and I always just think I'm just gonna

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 5>go straight to the league.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 5>So when I got this, when I was present with

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 5>this opportunity, you know, of course it was you know,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 5>we we didn't, we didn't, we let it sink in

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 5>for a little minute. But when we started thinking about it, like,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 5>this is what I've been saying ever since I was

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 5>Jay high. So you know, this is just it's a

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 5>it's a dream come true, and it's also a blessing.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 3>So dp there there was there was a possibility in

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 3>this this last of CBA agreement that they would potentially

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>allow for kids to go straight from high school to

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 3>the NBA again, and that that did not happen. They

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't change that, and that kind of shocked a lot

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>of people. Was that something you were looking at were

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>you hoping they would change that? How how how closely

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>were you following.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 5>That I would I wouldn't at all, you know what

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. I wouldn't just try to be one of

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 5>them type of players that just get to the league.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's not my main goal. Of course, I

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 5>want to get to the league, but I want to

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 5>be one of those all star top guys, one of

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 5>the one of the greats that's talking about, such as Lebron, Kobe, Shag,

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 5>all those type of names. You know, getting to the

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 5>league is just not I'm not there yet.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 5>When I get to the league, I don't want to

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 5>just be one of those players that's just I can

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 5>say I'm in NBA. You know what I'm saying. I

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 5>want to be one of those players that you know,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 5>playing twenty plus years, just like what Lebron is doing

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 5>right now.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Dink peate with us.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 4>This is a fascinating story in the world of basketball.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Just seventeen years old. My neighbor here in Dallas. He's

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>committed to play the next two years with the G

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 4>League Knight. He's not draft eligible until twenty twenty five,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 4>but he already knows what he's going to do with

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>the next two years of his life, play with the

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 4>G League Knight to get ready for the draft, instead

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 4>of going the college route, instead of going to Australia,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 4>instead of doing all these There's a variety of options

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 4>now that players have, but so unique to make this

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 4>decision when you're a junior in high school. I'm curious

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 4>because you're in Dallas. Jaden Hardy, of course with the Mavericks,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 4>he's been a huge success going from the Ignite to

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 4>the Maverick slip to the second round of the draft,

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 4>but had a great rookie season here in Dallas. Have

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 4>you had any chance to get to know him and

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 4>kind of quiz him about what life with the Ignite

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 4>is like?

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 5>Not really, you know, I just know people that know him,

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 5>like School Henderson, when having a conversation with him, you know,

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.919
<v Speaker 5>because I'm doing basically doing the same thing he did.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, he was the youngest to do it. My

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 5>birthdays in March is in February. That's why I am

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 5>the youngest as of right now. So you know, when

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 5>talking to him and seeing what Ignite has done with him,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 5>he's number He's gonna get drafted.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 4>What basically has his message to you been what advice is?

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 5>Just like yes, he was, just like, you know, you

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 5>can do the same thing I can do. You can

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 5>do the same thing that I'm doing right now, which

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 5>is because he made history and now that I'm making

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 5>it for him to do the two year deal and

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 5>me to do it now, you know, I think it's

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity that might come around, maybe even more often

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 5>met and other places. You never know, you know what

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. So just looking far ahead right now. Of course,

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 5>the G League for me is the reason why I

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 5>took this route is the development process. You know, me

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 5>coming out of high school. That's why I was telling

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 5>you earlier. If I was presented to just go to

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 5>the league right out of high school, I wouldn't you know.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 5>I can see myself right now. You know, I'm not

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 5>there yet for me to go out here and get

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 5>better and go to this development process like people what

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.479
<v Speaker 5>people tell me out the time, it's scary to see

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 5>what the outcome will be.

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, DP, Now I gotta put you on the spot

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 3>since you opened that door. You want to get to

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 3>the league, that's the ultimate goal. But you said the

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 3>G leaguing Knight presents the opportunity to be developed for

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 3>those two years, so I wouldn't want to say this.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 3>So if the G League Knight didn't exist, and you know,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming college would probably been the alternative DP. What

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 3>do you think you would have What do you think

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 3>you would have had it? What college would have got

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 3>DP if you had to go to college?

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 4>I hope cal State Fullerton is the answer.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, it would have been a real big toss

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 5>up between Arkansas and Alabama. But if I had, if

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 5>I had, if it had to come down to the wire,

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 5>I would have been with the roll time. I would

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 5>have went to Alabama, you know. Having a having a

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 5>relationship with Coach Oates and Coach Bryant, who is now

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 5>the head coach at Arkansas State. You know, Coach Brian

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 5>is me and his relationship is like how me an

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 5>assistant coach at Pinston relationship is. You know, I can

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 5>come to him for anything and he just he's a

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 5>cool coach. But I think coach Coach Oates is also

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 5>one of the great coach you know, he came down

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 5>to the school a couple of times, came to some

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 5>games just to show how down the earth he is,

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 5>and I think that's why the main reason why I

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 5>would have went to Alabama and saying what they'd have

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 5>done with Brandon Miller. And when I went on a

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 5>on a fisher out there, you know, I was talking

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 5>to Brandon, he was just like, man, it's just it's

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 5>just work. All work is easy work, as he was

0:37:58.719 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 5>what he was basically telling me.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 4>So from what I've read about you, you like to

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 4>pattern your game after Penny Hardaway. It's been a long

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 4>time since Penny Hardaway played in an NBA game. Obviously,

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 4>I know there's YouTube video that you can study, but

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 4>how does how does the idea to even try to

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 4>pattern yourself after Penny? How does that even get on

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 4>the radar for someone your age?

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Just the whole big guard situation that I that I

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 5>got going right now, of course, Penny t Matt Tracy,

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 5>m I mean, Magic Johnson, just all type of big

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 5>point guards that I that I like to watch, like

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 5>Paul George watching somebody like him, Kevin Durrant. But Penny Hardaway,

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 5>he's just you know, he was bringing the ball up

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 5>the floor and doing the same thing that I'm doing.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing the same Let me rephrase that I'm doing

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 5>the same thing that he was doing. So you know,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 5>when I was talking to Penny, it was just like

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm actually talking to him. I'm this is one of

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 5>my favorite points guards of all time. So I'm just

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 5>do I ask this? Do I want to ask him that?

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't want to. I ain't want to

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 5>miss nothing up, especially being on the phone with him,

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 5>just like I don't know what to ask. But he

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 5>is a down to earth person. You know, he don't

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 5>think he's he's Hollywood too much above himself. But for him,

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 5>he's just I think he's a great player, and I

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 5>think he should be talked about a lot more.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Have you watched the movie Blue Chips yet?

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 5>I've seen Blue Chips maybe a long time ago. I

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 5>ain't seen it recently because actually one of my other

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 5>AAU coaches, George Lynch.

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 4>He was in that movie, George George Lynch Man. I

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 4>covered George Lynch as a Laker beat writer many many,

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 4>many years and pounds ago, and that's what I mean.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, George is part of this amazing, you know,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Dallas basketball scene that we have. There are so many

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 4>high level players here. Ralphae Albarlow, who is a fantastic

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 4>draft analyst and someone who is also in the Dallas community.

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he told me that there are you know,

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 4>six seven local players who are draft contenders in this

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 4>upcoming draft, in the twenty twenty three draft. What is

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 4>it done for you to be surrounded by all this

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 4>good competition and what has it done for your game?

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 5>Of course, it's got me better. I've always been playing

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 5>up my whole basketball career so far, so playing against

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 5>other top guys, I think the exposure part is good

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 5>for it. But when sticking is just when you sticking

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 5>strictly to basketball and you see nothing but you and

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 5>your defender and your eyes, it's a different mentality that

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you get in your in your body. You get that

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 5>feeling like it's that time to hoop. So you know

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 5>it's when it's that time to go. You know, it's

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 5>always to kill MO from from now on, especially with

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 5>me playing against guys that's been in the NBA and

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 5>playing with guys that's played in the league, taking advice

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 5>from from my teammates that that has already been chopping

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 5>it up with me, It's gonna be a great experience.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm ready for it.

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 3>This is impressive. Again, we're talking with dink pe DP.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 3>He just reclassified, graduated high school early seventeen, signed with

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 3>the G League. Knight is going to be with them

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 3>for two years before he is NBA draft eligible in

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five. This kid is talking about studying tapes

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 3>of Penny Hardaway. Penny Hardaway, man, that's crazy. So for

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 3>those who don't know, please go do your research on

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 3>this kid. Look him up. He's a six to eight

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 3>point guard, six eight point guard, athletic point guard. So

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 3>that's why he's talking about Penny Hardaway, t Max, some

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 3>of these big guards. So DP, when you think about

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 3>when you think about your development as a point guard, right,

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of players that come into this

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 3>league and they get put into other positions. I remember

0:41:55.920 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>when I interviewed Jah before he declared for the draft,

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 3>but he wasn't drafted yet, and I asked him, I said,

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>what is your natural position? And he said, I'm a

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>point gud. I said, okay, so you're a point guard

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 3>he said, he said no, no, I'm a point god.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 3>So he was already committed to that role, you know.

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 3>So for you, you know, I know a lot of

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 3>players like to say, you know, I'm a basketball player. First,

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm hooper player. I could play anywhere. What is your

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 3>natural what do you see your natural position being in

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>the league.

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 5>Playing that point guard position? That point guard is what

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>I play. I play on the ball. The main reason

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 5>is I can make the right decision in the most

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 5>humblest way. I'm saying it as possible. I feel I

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 5>can make the right decision and the right play, and

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm all about winning. You know, stats is cool, Getting

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 5>twenty is cool, but that comes with winning. You know,

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 5>playing as a team, you never know how many points

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 5>you count in your head what some people do when

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 5>you just all about winning.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, for you, a decision like this, it's not without sacrifices. Obviously,

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Now you're not going to go to a school like

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Alabama or Arkansas with the huge crowds they get. Obviously

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 4>they get much bigger crowds than the Ignite are going

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 4>to play in front of no nil no McDonald's game

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.439
<v Speaker 4>next year, because you're again you're only a junior next year.

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you would have been in that McDonald's game.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 4>How hard was it to kind of leave all those

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 4>things behind it and choose this route.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh, it's a big sacrifice, you know. But some of

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 5>the things that I've seen that there's been a lot

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 5>of McDonald's all Americans, that's been them top guys in

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 5>high school, and when you're trying to go somewhere far

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 5>in the league, they're nowhere to be found. But you know,

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 5>the decision that I made. You know, I really don't

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 5>put my mind on them type of politics, political things,

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 5>my bad, those type of political things, because those are

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.959
<v Speaker 5>people's opinions on who should be this and who should

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 5>be that, you know. But when I'm playing basketball, I

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 5>think that probably would have came with it. But for

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 5>me to get going to this development process that I'm

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 5>going to go to right now, the McDonald's, all that,

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 5>the Joining Classic, all that stuff is behind me right now.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 5>My mindset is pro right now, being a pro, being

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 5>a better pro, and once I get to that big stage,

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, just to show up and do my work.

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>DP. You talked about some of those players playing in

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 3>the McDonald's on America. You don't see them. You don't

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>see them. A lot of them. They don't make it

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 3>to that point, and that's a that opens up a

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 3>good segue for a topic. Something that I've noticed, I

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 3>would say probably over the last six years with the

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 3>rise of social media and so dp what I've seen

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 3>you could tell me, tell me your perspective, because you're

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>in it. So I've seen a love kids, right, they

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 3>are top some of the top players in high school,

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 3>and they already got close to a million followers on

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 3>social media, whether that's Twitter, ig, and they're already considered star.

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 3>They're already considered public figures. And what I've noticed just

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 3>from watching, because you know, I've seen some of these

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 3>players coming up, is that that drive they lose a

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 3>drive because they feel like they've already made it because

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>they got the popularity, you know what I mean? So

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 3>what what is? What is the role of social media?

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 3>How was that play? Because you kind of grew up

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 3>in it for us, we got used to it over

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 3>the last ten fifteen years before you grew up in it.

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen a negative effect with the rise of

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 3>social media and popularity with players as you're trying to

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 3>come up and reach your goals?

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, of course, I'm kind of technically how how

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 5>my my personality is I'm really a nineties baby, you know,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 5>my favorite rappers, Tupac so him. I think I think

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 5>social media kill reality. Social media kill reality because everybody

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 5>wants this this cloud everybody that everybody wants clout. You know.

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 5>For me, I stay off of social media. I think

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 5>social media would would would not have me in a

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 5>position that I'm in right now. I don't. That's why

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't pay attention to all types of like rankings

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 5>and all types of other stuff. I keep my mind

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 5>just strictly on basketball. That's my main thing. That's why

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 5>I listened to a lot of Tupac. Tupac kept it

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 5>real one hundred every percent. Social media is just especially

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 5>like Instagram with all the followers and stuff like that.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's cool to have fans, yeah, but you

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 5>know when people take it to another level. Uh And

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 5>and I don't want to go to the gym, man,

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 5>I got to go see some people. I gotta go

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 5>do this for my social media, for my followers and

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 5>stuff like that. That is what's killing a lot of

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 5>people today. You know, the social media. It ruined a

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of reality.

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Stein this kid wasn't even born with Tupac died. He

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't he wasn't born with and he was playing.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 4>What I was gonna say, Tupac and Penny. He's an

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 4>old soul for a seventeen year old. Tell us what

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 4>what is your summer look like from here? Because obviously

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 4>the Ignite season doesn't start until October ish, So what

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, what are the next several months look like

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 4>for you?

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 5>Getting in a gym, getting in a gym, getting bigger.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 5>We travel to Vegas in a few weeks, so getting

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 5>down there and starting early, getting ready to meet the guys,

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 5>and getting ready to start my development process. You know,

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>for the next two years, I plan to I plan,

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 5>I plan to show people, improve to people what I

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 5>can do DP.

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>So you're going to be around NBA players once you

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 3>get to the G League night and eventually you will

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>be in the NBA as well. But what's one player

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 3>or or a few players that you're just most interested

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.720
<v Speaker 3>in getting in front of, whether that's on the court

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 3>or whether you just want to just have a talk

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.760
<v Speaker 3>with them. What's one player that one or two players

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 3>that come to mind.

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is one of my favorite players

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 5>to watch right now. Kevin Durant, Paul George and Lebron

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 5>of course, you know Lebron, you better listen to what

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 5>he tells you because if not, you missing out. Dylan

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Brooks ain't listening, DP, Dylan Brooks ain't listening. You mentioned

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 5>you mentioned KD.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw the game last night,

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 3>but uh, I was on the on the sidelines interview.

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 3>I interviewed k D after the game? Did you see

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 3>that on T your T d P?

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I seen. I think they won yesterday?

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Did they were?

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 5>I was watching a fight I had to watch.

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I just stood understood that. Yeah, h yeah.

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 5>So after after the game, Uh, I think I think

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 5>we cut the TV out.

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<v Speaker 3>You cut the TV at the most important time. Listen

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing the games, d P. You can't be

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<v Speaker 3>cut the game off, really, man, you gotta one to

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<v Speaker 3>see who I talk to? Man now I know now

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<v Speaker 3>it's all good. Hey, I Bena, get you a one

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<v Speaker 3>last one, then we're out of here. DP. When when

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<v Speaker 3>it's time, when it's twenty twenty five, when it's time

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<v Speaker 3>to make your make your name known, when you hear

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<v Speaker 3>your name called in the NBA draft, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>you know you got you know, as of right now,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the guys that's going to be in that class.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel you stack up with the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of that class when it's twenty twenty five, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say rank yourself, but how do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel you stand out in that class?

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<v Speaker 5>I feel I stand out because I can do almost

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<v Speaker 5>everything well more height, most people can score only, most

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<v Speaker 5>people can maybe dribble only, most people can maybe shoot only.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I got that in in in the

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<v Speaker 5>bag and everything. So you know, my main goal is

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<v Speaker 5>to be the number one overall pick in the class

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty five. And I'm gonna keep telling myself

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<v Speaker 5>that that's just that's the confidence level I got. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna never be be little on myself or

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<v Speaker 5>never think, never be afraid to say that I want

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<v Speaker 5>to be the number one overall pick, because that's what

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<v Speaker 5>that's what I want to do, you know, And I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna work for I'm gonna work hard for the next

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<v Speaker 5>two years and improve that to everybody and to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Six seven or six eight. What should we tell people?

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully, I say by six eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>So you you're still growing.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he's seventeen, he's still growing. He can grow up

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<v Speaker 3>till twenty twenty one. Maybe to that star. His pops

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<v Speaker 3>J Moss told me, man, he listened to Tupac nineties soul,

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 3>some rock and roll motel. This kid's all over the place. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can listen to every I listen to everything

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<v Speaker 5>every now and then. But if I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 5>play that All Lies on Me album, it's on. It's

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<v Speaker 5>on repeat. Man, come on now, come on.

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Now, this kid man all sy You don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>about to All Eyes on Me Star. That's that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>what Tupac got out, went to death ro Come on California.

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<v Speaker 5>Longs sold five million copies right there, man, and and

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 5>Denny and Denny dropped that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit him up then, job, oh my goodness, hit him up.

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<v Speaker 3>What sign see DP We gotta I gotta get you

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<v Speaker 3>on again. We're gonna talk nothing but nineties hip hop. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you want me to, you want me to log off,

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 4>and you guys can do a music pod without me.

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 3>No, this this is about hoop right now. But this

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<v Speaker 3>this dude is fascinating, man, So you check him out.

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<v Speaker 3>If he got an old soul, you know he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come correct with game preparation. And you know he got

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>his mindset social media. Like what he said about social

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 3>media really stands out, man. So I want to give

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 3>your shout out to you. Man. First of I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say congratulations again brother for making this move and

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.359
<v Speaker 3>uh making history. And I'll be following you, bro, We'll

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:51.439
<v Speaker 3>be following you man. Hopefully this won't be your last

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 3>time on this podcast. Man. We want to see you

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 3>do great things. Brother.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it man, whenever, whenever, and whenever I can

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<v Speaker 5>get on here, please, I would love to get back

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<v Speaker 5>on here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dope again. This was dink Pate just signed with

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<v Speaker 3>the G League Ignight. Graduated early from high school at

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<v Speaker 3>Seventeen's going to do the two year program with G

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<v Speaker 3>League Knight before being eligible for the NBA Draft in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five. You heard it right here on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>on this League Uncut. He wants to be the number

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<v Speaker 3>one pick twenty twenty five. The guests that we've had

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>that come on this show, they always have good karma

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 3>from there on out, so you know, watch out for

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<v Speaker 3>DP dink Pate. Appreciate you again, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Mature young man.

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<v Speaker 4>Right there, Chris Haynes, seventeen years old making some major

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<v Speaker 4>life decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad we did that.

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<v Speaker 4>That was interesting to kind of hear his perspective on

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<v Speaker 4>a path that's still really really new when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to making your way to professional, making your way as

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 4>a professional in this sport. That is going to do

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<v Speaker 4>it for another edition of This League Uncut. As all always,

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<v Speaker 4>please review the show, rate the show, subscribe to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>This is dropping again on a Monday morning. Chris on

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<v Speaker 4>the sideline in La tonight for Grizzlies at Lakers Game four.

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<v Speaker 4>He and I will be getting together again soon to

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<v Speaker 4>record our next episode. Everybody, thanks for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you again Mary soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll do it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>See you next time. This League on Cut is and

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio production Chris Haines and Mark Stein