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Speaker 2: What is up everybody? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am your hope, Chris Raybond, and I'm joined by

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister of Degeneration. Previews from NFL twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It's my guy, Stucky Stuck. What is going on? How

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Speaker 1: you feeling glad to be back with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting ever so closer to the start of

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Speaker 3: the season. I'm hitching for Folk. We'll get some college

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Speaker 3: football this weekend. Make sure you check out our Week

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Speaker 3: zero betting preview Big Bets on Campus. Go through every

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Speaker 3: game there. But I'm excited to go through all thirty

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Speaker 3: two teams. Here. Some just updated conversations from the last

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Speaker 3: time we talked. Some injuries, some things have changed, and

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Speaker 3: it looks like there's probably still gonna be a couple

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Speaker 3: more moves which we'll try to hint at or try

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Speaker 3: to guess on who's Like, Look, I mean, you've got

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Speaker 3: potential defensive players of the Year still out there that

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Speaker 3: could be on the un in Hendrickson and Parsons, and

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with McLaren. Like, there's still a lot

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Speaker 3: of major contributors, star players that could be moved from

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Speaker 3: between now and the start of the season. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot to talk about. I'm excited to go through

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Speaker 3: all thirty two teams and try to find some updated

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Speaker 3: winners with the market as far as where it stands now,

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Speaker 3: but just couldn't be happier, couldn't be more excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty active, pretty active preseason, I must say,

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Speaker 2: just trades and potential trades and guys you know on

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Speaker 2: the trading block. I don't know the last time I've

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Speaker 2: heard like such an active trading block where teams are serious.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it should be good.

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Speaker 2: I will start AFC South and AFC East in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Got to switch it up a little. I feel like

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Speaker 2: everyone always goes, you know, east, north and then west

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Speaker 2: whatever it is southwest, so we'll go We'll start with

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Speaker 2: the AFC South here and the Houston Texans are still

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Speaker 2: expected to be the cream of the crop there, Stuck,

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about this Texan squad? New offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator which j Stroud in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean big garberta slowak, which I think was

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Speaker 3: a good move. His play calling, especially on early downs,

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Speaker 3: was just so poor. You bring in Caley from the

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Speaker 3: McVeigh tree, so you're kind of going like Shanahan to

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Speaker 3: McVeigh here. I think that could only be a positive.

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Speaker 3: You also added some weapons, and last year the weapons

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Speaker 3: were just so poor because of injuries, like they lost

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Speaker 3: So they have some more weapons. But my fear is

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Speaker 3: don't think Chubb has much left, So will they be

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Speaker 3: able to get that running game to give them more balance.

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Speaker 3: And then the offensive line is still a major word.

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Speaker 3: Like they went they they're basically restarting the offensive line

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Speaker 3: that might just doom them again. The defense should be

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Speaker 3: really good. It's one of the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It should be really good and that is the strong

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Speaker 3: I look Petriet at Nickel, I think is when their

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Speaker 3: got hurt last year, but you got Stingley Lassiter like

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Speaker 3: But we don't know if it's going to be at

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Speaker 3: Their win total implied to sitting at like nine point

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Speaker 3: so I'm looking else where. And I also think that

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Speaker 3: the Titans were disaster. We're gonna talk about them in

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Speaker 3: a second. They should be better this year, just a

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Speaker 3: quarterback alone. The Jag should be better under Liam Cullen.

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Speaker 3: Not sure about the Colts, but we'll talk about them.

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Speaker 3: But the schedule will get tougher overall compared to last year,

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Speaker 3: And then you get the Bucks week two at home.

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Speaker 3: which you know it's not easy on paper at the Rams,

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Speaker 3: But rightful favorite of the division, but no interest in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Houston is just too overpriced in a

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Speaker 2: my opinion. I think to your point, Houston's defense is great.

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Speaker 2: Defense aggresses more. Their offensive line I think definitely got worse.

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Speaker 2: To your point about the schedule being tough early, so

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Speaker 2: I plus they're they're around even money to win the division.

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Speaker 1: That's a no go for me.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to look at elsewhere, and I

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Speaker 2: think that elsewhere is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I think they have enough talent on.

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Speaker 2: I think their point differential was essentially dead even you know,

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Speaker 2: But I think the Jaguars are the play at three

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Speaker 2: He's probably going to be close to a full time

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Jaguars this season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Jackson mean, I bet if you

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Speaker 3: I did bet them they're over. You get over seven

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean if there was one team that

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Speaker 3: nine turnovers. Is that like never happened nine turnovers and

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Speaker 3: if the team's gonna get bounces, it could be the

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Speaker 3: Jags this year. But their defense was a disaster. It's

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Speaker 3: your bottom three defense against one of the easiest schedules

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Speaker 3: The coaching was such a disaster. Yeah, you have players

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Speaker 3: coming out and trashing how things were operating. Wing Guard

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Speaker 3: So new DC, I think is an upgrade. You'll get

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Speaker 3: their defense is more potential this year, Like the front

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Speaker 3: like the safety play was so bad last year. Like

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Speaker 3: wing Guard, I think this gives you like a higher floor.

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Speaker 3: You bring in Mary like that there's since they say

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Speaker 3: these aren't going to a vow you the corners have

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Speaker 3: to be better. They add Jordan Lewis is a pretty

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Speaker 3: good nickel, but Jerry Jones was good at the nickel

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Speaker 3: There'll be a better schematic to two. It's more zone

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, exactly, Quinn Allen, Right, So what I think

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Speaker 1: So I think that's how that's gonna set up. But

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Speaker 2: But either way, I think the talent is there's a

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Speaker 3: For Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna end up being the Colts. I

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Speaker 3: Well, DANDERL.

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Speaker 1: Jones got cut in what was it, Week ten last year.

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Speaker 2: But all right, Peters, But I mean they are kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Titans, it just comes down I mean,

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Speaker 2: to rain that in for you, because I know, I

433
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: know you got that that cliff bias.

434
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: But I looked at like pressure to sack ratio stuff,

435
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: which is always a red flag, and like so there

436
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: was stuff I didn't think. I didn't think that change.

437
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean, not many people thought he's gonna be that good,

438
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: but I was more of a seller than most. But

439
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: like their deep I mean, last year they were so unlucky.

440
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: They went too in six and one possession games minus

441
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: sixteen turnover margin. They had thirty four turnovers. They were

442
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: dead last and special teams. That's worth noting special teams

443
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: cost them a couple of games. They overhaul that entire unit.

444
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: They bring in John Fossil, who was they were dead

445
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: last my metrics by a wide margin. So Fossil's very

446
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 3: good coordinator could fix that unit. Like the stuff in

447
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: the margins, I thought Wilson did a good job as

448
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: DC in his first year. There's some pieces to work

449
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 3: with there, Like you have Sweat and Simmons up front,

450
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 3: and I mean he does some good things with his

451
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 3: nickel packages. I actually like Brownley and McCreary. It's Snead.

452
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: You got some veteran safeties like sneed is just he's

453
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: a figment of our imagination now.

454
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Speaker 1: But just that the new and Dormy Jackson, and they.

455
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: Don't have great depth there, so that like you're probably

456
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to go.

457
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: What's the story of the team.

458
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they got to stay healthy. There's not

459
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: a lot of depth here, Like linebacker is very concerning.

460
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think offensively they're gonna be

461
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: better just because it's not Will Levis given the other

462
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: team the ball, and I cam wod definitely gives them

463
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: higher upside, and the offensive line should be improved. I

464
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: think they overpaid for Dan Moore, but they're much better

465
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: off at tackle. Latham moves to right tackle where he's

466
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: much more comfortable in a way better fit, and they

467
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: bring in Zeitler who's a good right guard, and Scornsky

468
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: has shown some flashes and Cushion Berry coming back from injury.

469
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: Like last year, the offense time is so bad, their

470
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: quarterback was so bad, like there was just nothing they

471
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: could do. Bill Callahan is still the offensive line coach.

472
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: I trust him to figure this out. So I think

473
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: the offensive line is trending up. Quarterback will be better.

474
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: The weapons, like Lockett is probably he's on the decline,

475
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: but like he doesn't be like a nice like a

476
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: veteran guy in the locker room and like just get

477
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: to get some third down catches for ward. But the

478
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: guy that I like who might start is going to start.

479
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't know if he's

480
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: gonna start Week one, but I have n't projected to

481
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: be like the starter over the season because he's yeah,

482
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: he's just what he's going.

483
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Speaker 1: Up against Van Jefferson.

484
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: He'll win. That I would also put out, ye know,

485
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: I would also I don't think, I don't even know

486
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna make the team, but I'm a I'm astreppo truther.

487
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: I would put him out in the slot and sometimes

488
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: but NFL teams like he just doesn't have the measures,

489
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: but that guy just gets open. There's certain guys like

490
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: that that but anyway, like so that they have enough

491
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: weapons and uh, you know, guys in the backfield for

492
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: this to be a decent offense, assuming ward is not

493
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: a disaster, but like, what's the floor is? It cannot

494
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: be worse than last year. So having said that, I

495
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: don't necessarily see them winning the division, but I wouldn't

496
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: hate if anyone wants to take a little flyer on them.

497
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: But I did bet they're over. It's one of the

498
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: biggest edges that I show. You can get over five

499
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: and a half minus one. I project them closer to

500
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: like seven wins. Yeah, so I bet they're over and

501
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm ready for more Titans pain. Oh my god, last sweets. No,

502
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: just division is pretty close. Like I protected Texans nine

503
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: to four, the colt seven to the Jags eight, and

504
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: then the Titans around seven. So like a couple injuries,

505
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: one possession game, luck, turnover luck, you could find yourself

506
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: right there. Another thing worth mentioning for the Titans their

507
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: schedule gets much easier this year for their offense and

508
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: their defense. I think basically just like looking on how

509
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: I think it plays out, and then you get like

510
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: Cleveland and New Orleans at the end of the year.

511
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: Who knows where those two teams will be, Like, uh,

512
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: they could just be walking corpses playing who God knows

513
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: who at quarterback. They start at Denver, which isn't easy,

514
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: and then they host the Rams. They're at Houston early

515
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: at Arizona. I like that, Like their hardest games are early,

516
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: so with so much change in a rookie quarterback, I

517
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 3: actually like that, like get the harder game by the

518
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: way for just yeah, but Rams week two at home, coach,

519
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: they can start two and one. Yeah, like especially with

520
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: stafford uncertainty, so you know, then you have Indie with

521
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: the Daniel Jones situation and uh so we'll see tough,

522
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: tough schedule to start though on paper. Then then there's

523
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: some winnable games here like so uh I like them

524
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: to go over.

525
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I think the Titans are a better

526
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: back just like on that kind of like a like

527
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: I don't love them long shot as much because I

528
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: think the team is still like injuries are gonna happen,

529
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: and I look at like Dan Moore, Uh, you know,

530
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: wait of going to right like these guys have been.

531
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: I mean, Dan Moore's you know, like average at best,

532
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: he still has to show it. And then Zeitler wasn't

533
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: he banged up uh in camp already? So like this

534
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: this could quickly devolve into a bad situation if Ridley

535
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: gets if Ridley's not there, I think their weapons are

536
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: are horrible because I mean, you're still talking about rookies

537
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: all over or just washed veterans like it's either guys

538
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: like like iron An r and and and and uh

539
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: in Restrepo, or it's like Van Jefferson and Tyler Lockett.

540
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: I like gunner Helm the tight end though, I think

541
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: he's good, but I think the I think the secondary

542
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: could still be bad.

543
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Uh. I think the and I think the line is

544
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: just what. I just think everywhere is lacking. Death of

545
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: the yard.

546
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: To see ty J spears, you know he's gonna miss

547
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: some time. And last last year they ran Tony Power

548
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: I think too much. He dropped off of would have

549
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: been down the stretch, and they didn't really re up

550
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: in the backfield either. So I wonder if they're gonna

551
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: go a little pass heavier this year because they really

552
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: added at at receiver mostly.

553
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't.

554
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the weapons are that great at least

555
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: are gonna be that great right away.

556
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: So I think there's just a lot of fragility there.

557
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: But I do think they they're a better team than

558
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: giving the markets given him credit for, and I think

559
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: just playing the Colts and Daniel, if it's gonna be

560
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, it might go from Jones to Leonard if

561
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Richardson's off the roster, because I don't know if Jones

562
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: can hold that job.

563
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: So I think there's some there is some value there,

564
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: But I like that.

565
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: I think the Jags are much better played for like playoffs,

566
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: long shot for division and all that.

567
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,520
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Speaker 2: go AFC East stuck. Last time we talked, I know

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Speaker 2: you were highing the Bills. Let's start there. The Bills.

587
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: I haven't projected for the most wins in the league.

588
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: Now they do have. They still have these weird issues

589
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: that I wish. I feel like they don't have to

590
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: have these issues, but they somehow have them. Which are

591
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: I still think the receiver room is shaky, and when

592
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: you're going up against you know, the best teams in

593
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Speaker 2: the AFC, you're gonna want to be able to have.

594
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Speaker 1: Your pass the game at your full disposal.

595
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: And I thought in the playoffs last year they kind

596
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: of went a little run heavy maybe because of that,

597
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it got better. And safety

598
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: could be an issue yet again as well. But this

599
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: division is not going to be good outside the Bill,

600
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Speaker 2: So I mean, what are your thoughts? Are they just

601
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: gonna I think they get the one seed. I think

602
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: that have the best path to the one seed. Do

603
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: you still feel that way? Or are you concerned about

604
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: any of the receivers or the safeties or anything like that.

605
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not afraid. I'm not like I mean,

606
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: the Bills did get lucky last year. They were one

607
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: of the best teams the NFL. But i mean, like

608
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: you want to talk about turnovers. The team that benefited

609
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: most from turnovers more than any team in the league.

610
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: They forced thirty two. This is a bottom bottom feedt

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: or defense if you remove turnovers from their advanced stats.

612
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: The secondary was so poor. Now, I like their draft,

613
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: and they addressed the defense in the draft. Yeah, they

614
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: brought some guys in free agency. Like the front, the

615
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: front seven is now deep. Linebacker's got to stay healthy.

616
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: But that my concern is the secondary, the safety position. Corners,

617
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: like I'm not sure I love I mean Trey White,

618
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: I love him, He's he's awesome on hard knocks, but

619
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much he has left the tank.

620
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: They need Hairston to hit. And like their safety position

621
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: is still you can't have the more Hamlin out there

622
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: Toron Johnson even out of down year, but you still

623
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: trust him at nickel and and Benford is good, But

624
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: like that other corner spot, the safety spot. Is it

625
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: going to cost the Bills a playoff spot or the division?

626
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: Probably not, but like that's that's what has burnt them

627
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Like that's what's burnt them against the Chiefs,

628
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: and that's just gonna be the question all year is

629
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: like how does the secondary come together? My only concern,

630
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: I mean, but they were they were very lucky. It

631
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: is like my my two concerns for them are like

632
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: to turnover regression, but like what them might cost them

633
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: a couple wins. I projected twelve point two win total sitting.

634
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna they're easily the most.

635
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Games are at home. They don't have like any back

636
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: to back road spots. Like it's the schedule is very

637
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: very easy for a team that won their division. The Yeah,

638
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean they had extreme fumble luck. They were such

639
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: turn of emergency deven. So like turnover regression is a

640
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: bit of a worry, Like if you wanted to go

641
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: over you know, twelve and a half, I could see

642
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: them having like a poor turnover just that bounces back

643
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: and then you know, cost them a couple of games

644
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: and they finished like with ten or eleven wins, probably

645
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: still win the division. But that would be my concern

646
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: for the win total over and then also their injuries,

647
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: Like they were really healthy on offense last year and

648
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: they've been really healthy for two straight years. Their offensive line,

649
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: their offensive line is really good and they rely on

650
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: that offensive line. But they basically don't miss any starts

651
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: the last two years, So like that would be my

652
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: concern is, like, does do you lose a couple guys

653
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: in the offensive line and the depth is not great,

654
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: so like just some of that stuff on the French.

655
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: This is one of the best teams in the NFL.

656
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: You have Josh Allen. Everybody eats on offense, so like, yeah,

657
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about the offense with Allen barring injuries.

658
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: And then the defense is just all about the secondary.

659
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: But this team should be in the mix for the

660
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: one seed, and like they haven't. They don't lose at home.

661
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: They've lost like two games in the last four years

662
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: at home, and that's gonna be huge for getting that

663
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: one seed. Getting the tie breakers over the Chiefs and

664
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: the Ravens, like getting that highly coveted by and they

665
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 3: host the Ravens week one, and they host the Chiefs

666
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: week nine, and in between there it's the Jets, the Dolphins,

667
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: the Saints, the Pats, the Falcons, the Panthers, Like they

668
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: get that win against the Ravens, and a lot of

669
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: people are gonna be talking about they're gonna be seven

670
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: and zero hosting Kansas City. You get to eight to

671
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: no with wins over Kansas City and Baltimore already, and

672
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: then the rest of the schedules pretty manageable. Then you're

673
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: gonna be in the driver's seat for that one seat,

674
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: which is huge. But yeah, the concerns are the secondary health,

675
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: turnover regression. But one of the best teams in the

676
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: NFL haven't power rated second.

677
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're they're a regular season team, Uh,

678
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: they're there. But their win total, I think is still

679
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: very It's twelve and a half is still like I

680
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: just don't think I wouldn't bet any win to really

681
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: twelve and a half. So they're kind of overpriced. But

682
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: none of these concerns I think are big regular season concerns.

683
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: I think the big their biggest concerns come in the

684
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: playoffs because their receivers. I still don't think they could

685
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: beat man coverage consistently. Uh, they're gonna their their weeks

686
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: their week. Winks at safety are gonna get exposed. And

687
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, if you're to your point about offensive linehouse

688
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: same thing. If uh, you know, if you can't beat

689
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: man coverage in and you're gonna rely on the run

690
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: and you've gotta bang up o line, that's gonna be

691
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: a problem. But in the regular season, I'm not worried

692
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: about them. I just I just think that it's tough

693
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: to bet over twelve and a half. And I mean,

694
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: you can wait what three thirty for the division, But

695
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: the Patriots, they could get frisky. I'm not a believer

696
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: in the Dolphins, but the Patriots, you know, I like

697
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: them early in the offseason.

698
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: Before we go to the Patriots, Yeah, they'd go over

699
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: over twelve and a half, like you could have, like

700
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: say Allen is out for a couple of weeks. Yeah,

701
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: you have some of this turnover lock flips and you

702
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: lose a couple of games that you shouldn't and then

703
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: also there's a chance that you could be twelve and four,

704
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: which is an unbelievable year. And then you beat the

705
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Ravens and Chiefs and you have the one seed locked

706
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: up and you sit guys Week eighteen versus the Jets,

707
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: and that's like a home game against the Jets. You're

708
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: looking at this schedule and you're projecting it like that's counting.

709
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: Let's counting close to a win. So like you might

710
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: not have that game and that could just so like, yeah,

711
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't have no interest of going over twelve and

712
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 3: a half.

713
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you for the Bills. I still I

714
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: want Super Bowl tickets. I want Conference tickets. I want

715
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: one seed tickets because you know, to your point, you

716
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: start off, you beat those, you beat the Ravens, the

717
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: price you know, it's already high, but the price goes

718
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: up even more.

719
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Uh and it could be even up, could be up.

720
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: Even more, and if if, if they lose, maybe maybe

721
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: you just add a little bit more after the Ravens games. So, uh,

722
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: I still want their you know them to finally get

723
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: over the hump those kind of tickets because they're gonna

724
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: run through the regular season and a lot of stuff

725
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: could sort itself out and guys could pop that you know,

726
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: they drafted uh all defense that could just pop off

727
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: and mitigate you know, some of the concerns there, uh

728
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: may be suspended.

729
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: That they added that they'll get back and after.

730
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, four weeks and you're and you are deep.

731
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: You are a little deeper at wide receiver in the

732
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: sense that you know Coleman could take a step forward.

733
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: You did sign Palmer.

734
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: Uh, he's got to be better than washed up Cooper

735
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: at this point, I think. And then, uh, you know,

736
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, if if he makes the team, which I

737
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: looks like he is, still has some talent. I mean

738
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: his his issue has never really been talent. So things

739
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: could come together better than they look even now. So

740
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: some of the concerns could just be non issues by

741
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: the time. Uh, you know the playoffs runner roll around.

742
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, I mean, you know, they'd

743
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: be a team that ran through the regular season and

744
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: are set up well for the playoffs. So I want

745
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: their I want their Super Bowl tickets, I want their

746
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: conference tickets.

747
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: I want the one seed tickets. But no interest in

748
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: inventing over twelve.

749
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: Bishop Tho are the keys I think to their defense

750
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: this year, Like Bishop's gotta be the guy at safety

751
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: and then Harriston as a rookie. It's a lot to ask,

752
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: but uh, he's got to be the guy at corner

753
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: to help them. They can get those two to live

754
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: up to their potential and peaking at the end of

755
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: the year. Then they're gonna have a chance to finally

756
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: get back to a super Bowl. But you wouldn't got

757
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 3: Pats or Yeah, I want to talk about the Pats

758
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 3: because the Pats our team.

759
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: When win totals first came out, I was talking to

760
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: our guy Evan Abram and Evan Abrams and I was saying,

761
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: you know, this past team is gonna be a lot

762
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: better than people think. I think it's the second best

763
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: team in the division. I still think it's the second

764
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: best team in the division, but the price has gone

765
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: up and now you're talking about a win total right

766
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: around five hundred at even money. I do think it

767
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: could take some time. I love Drake Matt think he

768
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: could be a star. I think he could even turn

769
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: other guys into stars. You're already seeing like Chisholm, like,

770
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: you know, guys come out of nowhere playing well. That

771
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: seems to be a staple of these you know, of

772
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: the old Patriots teams with McDaniels and now Varabel's there,

773
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: so like there's a lot to like, But you're still

774
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: talking about a shaky O line, a quarterback learning another

775
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: new system, that's somewhat complicated, a receiver group that still

776
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: looks like it could be shaky, and his one dig's

777
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: injury or you know, aggravation or whatever away from just

778
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: being very green and learn and learning a new complicated system.

779
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: So I do think it could take some time. So

780
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: I don't That's another reason I just like the Bills

781
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: so much. So what are your thoughts on you know,

782
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: do you are you are you attacking New England in

783
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: the future's market at all? Or do you think their

784
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: their price has kind of caught up?

785
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

786
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: No, I think they're a bit overvalued. Like I mean, yeah,

787
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: they were. They did. They went out and they spent,

788
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 3: and they upgraded their coaching staff and they went out

789
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: and they bolstered both sides of the ball. I mean,

790
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: you look, and last year they were unlucky and Drake

791
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: May was a rookie starting quarterback. When though what they

792
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: were minus eleven turnovers, bad fumble luck, three and three

793
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: and six and one score games, they were a ton

794
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: of injuries. It all started their offensive. I mean, their

795
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: weapons were bad last year, got a little better. I'm

796
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: not sure how much we can count on digs. That's

797
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: something that needs to be monitor. They need him to

798
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: be at least like a reliable possession guy and help

799
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: out May. But May showed enough flashes behind a disastrous

800
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: offensive line, and it's completely rebuilt. I mean, I don't

801
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: I think Cole String is probably gonna get traded. You're

802
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: gonna get basically get four new starters in and Wenu,

803
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: who was the only good one last year. You're probably

804
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: gonna You're gonna have probably an all left rookie offensive

805
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: left side of the offensive line. So people are just like, oh,

806
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: it's good, the it's gonna be better because it was

807
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 3: so bad last year. But we'll see.

808
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: It could take time to jail though, is what. I'm

809
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: just like a new I've got new everything essentially good. Yeah,

810
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: Like I think it's a matter it doesn't know that

811
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: means to be good. So there's still question there. Like

812
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: Campbell and Wilson on the left side, maybe it's brown,

813
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: but I think it'snna be Campbell and Wilson. Bradbury at

814
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: center is you know he's okay on when it was

815
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: decent at right guard and then right tackles probably me

816
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Moses and Brian is your swing tackle.

817
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be better because last year. It's like

818
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: you could you can't play guys like the Low and

819
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: Jacobs and Jordan and Robinson, and so they were getting

820
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: like they were they were so bad. I mean, this

821
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: is one of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen

822
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: when those guys were in there. So they could be better,

823
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: but how good Still questions still questions about the the Yeah,

824
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: skill positions or specifically receiver. It looks like they they

825
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 3: got a hit with Trevione Henderson.

826
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna help a lot because he's gonna be

827
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: able to I think you remember those years that James

828
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: White went from like just like a passing down back

829
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: to like the best player in fantasy.

830
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: Like that could be trading on Henderson in terms of

831
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: the usage. So I think he'll help out.

832
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: May a lot.

833
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 2: Just after the catch split out, you know, chess peace,

834
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: but you're still talking about when he drops back, like

835
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: a line that could take some time to jel and

836
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: your guy wait for like what matc Hollins or uh,

837
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: you know, older Stefan Diggs to get open or something

838
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: like that, or it's it's it's gonna be up and down.

839
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: I think yeah, and we'll see what Kyle Williams can

840
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: give them. So yeah, defensively they should be better. It

841
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: was disappointing less and people forget that. Everyone was talking

842
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: about the offensive line the defense last year. I mean,

843
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: this is a team that finished thirtieth TVA offense, thirtieth

844
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: in defense. Adidas was not good last year. They had

845
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: no pass rush, dead last in sacks. Like, but you're

846
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: gonna get far more back you addam Milton Williams. You know,

847
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: you bring in a couple other guys up front. Linebacker,

848
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: You bring in Splaine will be good. Good run defender,

849
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: Dallas was decent. You bring in Landry who will help.

850
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: So like they brought in a lot of guys, their

851
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: run dy is gonna be better and that is the

852
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: variable specialty. And then that is a good combo to

853
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, fix that run defense. When we'll see if

854
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: they can get pressure. Like I still worry about, like

855
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: where's the pressure gonna come from? Like key On White,

856
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: He's got to just be kind of the guy. So

857
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: I still worry about like their edge pressure. But their

858
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: run dy is gonna be better under Rabel And then

859
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: you have one of the best on paper cornerback rooms.

860
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can cover in the NFL with.

861
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: Gonzales, Davis and Jones Pepper's will help with the RUNDI too,

862
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: But like the other safety spot's interesting. I think Dougger

863
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: is gonna get like cutter traded from everything I'm hearing,

864
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: like it might be the rookie Woodson that's gonna to

865
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: get that that spot. From some of the things that

866
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: I'm hearing, they looks like Dougger's like going.

867
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: The way Douggers looks like he's gone, Like that's what.

868
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: We'll see that other safety spot. But if I think

869
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: the Rundy is gonna be fixed, and they have corners

870
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: who can cover, so like that's a good combination. And

871
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: even if the pressure isn't great, you still you have

872
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: good you have good cover corners. So yeah, I'm also interested.

873
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: And they have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL,

874
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: and last year was it was tough, So the schedule

875
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: gets much easier. They have some positive aggression likely coming,

876
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: the rosters better, the coaches better. There's a lot to like,

877
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: but it's priced in, like I project them, like the

878
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: price matter still, I mean I project them at eight wins,

879
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: so I would lean under not gonna. I don't have

880
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: enough value to go there. But there's also they're they're

881
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: all in here and you should be may on his

882
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: rookie contract. There's a chance that do they do they

883
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: go get Hendrickson? Do they go get a lot of

884
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: talk about them getting the clarin and that with Death

885
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: getting one of those like what are we talking about? Weapons?

886
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: Pass rush? They got one of those two guys. It,

887
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: I think it could go a long way. So I

888
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: think that they're overpriced. But I'm not betting against them,

889
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: mainly because I'm also low on the Jets and I'm

890
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: low on the Dolphins too, but I'm not betting them

891
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: to win the division or make the playoffs.

892
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: I think they're the best bet too, Like they're the

893
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: best betting value to win the division because they're like

894
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: just under plus five five hundred, so.

895
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: Plus five fifty out there, Yeah, i'd bet it.

896
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: I'd rather bet that than the Bills, you know, laying

897
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, three hundred plus with the Bills, And I

898
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: just don't really think the Jets and Dolphins have much

899
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: of a chance. So I do think they're the best value.

900
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're priced in terms of like the median

901
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: and the win total. I still think they'll hover around

902
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: five hundred. Now may could change that, but I just

903
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: worry about the you know when you don't when you

904
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: have receivers kind of like all young and all kind

905
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: of new, and then except one one or two of

906
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: them are old and kind of a little past it,

907
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: Like Matt Collins is not really changing anything for them,

908
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: and Digs you're relying on.

909
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: Him a lot.

910
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: I just think, I think that's gonna take some time,

911
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: and the old line is gonna take time, and so

912
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: like that's it's kind of a juggling act. But you

913
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this could be like a commander's turnaround where

914
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Drake Mage's yeah he's.

915
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: Hit on the offensive line. You added Henderson, like some

916
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: of these rookies hit like Williams is a guy ah

917
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: and like dig stays healthy.

918
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chasms might just be he might just be what

919
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: if you and.

920
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: Then what if they adda McLaurin all of a sudden

921
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: You're like.

922
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's so. I would actually say now that yeah,

923
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: that's actually a good point. So if you can get

924
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: plus five point fifty five to one four seventy five,

925
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: I think that there Wrenth a little bit of a

926
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: speculative speculative bet to win the division just because I

927
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: think the value is there compared to the Bills, which

928
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, if something goes if the Patriots kind of

929
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: max out and the Bills had to you know, get

930
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: an injury to that person, Yeah.

931
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Allen gets hurt. Like I'm not like a hundred for

932
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: them to win the division.

933
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it makes sense to kind of see, you know,

934
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: they they could they have some room, but yeah, ultimately

935
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: I think they're in a clear they're a clear second.

936
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: But they do have they do have double digit win upside.

937
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think the meat. I think the median

938
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: is right around eight and a half.

939
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

940
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins. I just don't like what

941
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I've seen from the Dolphins.

942
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: I don't.

943
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: I think this team is devolving. I think McDaniel might

944
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: be in a windle over his head at times and.

945
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: He's saying all the right things now, but you look

946
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: at I mean maybe it's maybe it's the GM too,

947
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: but I mean, why of all teams that didn't need

948
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: to bring in Darren Waller, the Dolphins definitely didn't need

949
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: to bring in Darren Waller, like a guy who quit

950
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: mid season and after you had the Tyreek Hill incidents.

951
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill.

952
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be the same guy. His

953
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: yardage got cut in half per game one twelve to

954
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: fifty six, and he was healthy. I mean, he shouldn't

955
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: say he was healthy, but he played no seventeen games

956
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: risk or not. Like you're gonna make an excuse when

957
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: your guy, when you you know, cut your receiving yardage

958
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: in half from one year to another. But he was

959
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: a generational talent in terms of his speed. That's gonna

960
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: go so Waddle. Never the same player after defense has

961
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: figured out to a to a really never the same player,

962
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: and now the offensive line is so terrible that you

963
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: have no choice but to get the ball out super quick.

964
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: So I don't think the offense is going to change

965
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: a lot from what we saw down to stretch last year.

966
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, you traded John news Smith,

967
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: so one of your weapons to help you run that

968
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: kind of offense is gone last year for them. Yeah, Like,

969
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: I just don't like anything I'm really seeing from this

970
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: Miami team to give me any confidence that they they're

971
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: still a threat to. You know, at one point they

972
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: were kind of still a threat to you know, they

973
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: were right there at the Jets. I think last year

974
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: we were talking about them like, Okay, they could be

975
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 2: there at the Jets and if the Bills are Jets

976
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: stumbled now, I think they're a lot closer to the

977
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 2: to the bottom than even the Patriots at this point.

978
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: So I'm all out of Miami. I'm selling them. I'd

979
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: go under on their win total. What is it? Eight seven? Yes,

980
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I go under seven and a half.

981
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: I went under seven and a half plus one thirty

982
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: when we did this early in the year, Like you

983
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: could have got eight and a half. I decided to

984
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: go under seven and a half plus money, just because

985
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: I think the floor is really low, that there's a

986
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: lot of winnable games on the schedule, like and they

987
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: get Indianapolis to start, get New England, like we just talked,

988
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: there's a lot of moving parts. You have the Jets early,

989
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're at the Browns week seven, who

990
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: knows who they'll have a quarterback? You know you're home

991
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: against the Saints.

992
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: So this is the team Like those teams though, to me,

993
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: if you look.

994
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: At their schedule, could be there. Uh and I project

995
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: them like around seven to four. So like numbers wise,

996
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: I don't show a ton of value anymore, but I'd

997
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: still would be at the under I think this is

998
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: a volt. I think this is this could completely blow up.

999
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: I could see Hill just being like I'm out, tweeting

1000
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: like I'm out, and.

1001
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: He's already got this mysterious injury that they said.

1002
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: McDaniel said, we didn't we had he was taking every

1003
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: rep uh, and then we figured out that he had

1004
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: this injury that if he if he took more reps

1005
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: or tried to play, he would he would suffer a

1006
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: long term injury.

1007
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: So that tells me like there's just like.

1008
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: Oversight going on throughout the organization, where why is he'll

1009
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: even being able to take all these reps in the

1010
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: first place if he's hurt, and to the point where

1011
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: now you're saying we have to hope him out and

1012
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna get injured long term, which that's not something

1013
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: you hear often.

1014
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: There's so much downsiders his team number one. Wait, so

1015
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: like starting at quarterback Tua concussions, concussion time, and then

1016
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're talking about Zach Wilson, the

1017
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: Tyree Kill situation. A chain by the way, now doing

1018
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: like a calf injury. That's scary. And then like you lose,

1019
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: you replace, You replaced John who was one of your

1020
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: best players, Like with Darren Waller out of retirement, out

1021
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: of his rap career.

1022
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Just be he's just he just started practicing. You get

1023
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: sound like two weeks ago.

1024
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know their other tight end is to

1025
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: foul Julian Hill.

1026
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: Julian Hill.

1027
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1028
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: So, and then your offensive line is a disaster. I

1029
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: mean like, yeah, there were injuries last year, but your

1030
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: left side is brand new. Patrick Paul I'm not a

1031
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: fan of. He's got to hit a left tackle.

1032
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: And uh he was a bottom four of eighty one.

1033
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: Great attackles at one.

1034
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: And then you got yeah, you know Sabina had left

1035
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: guard and it's a disaster. And then you go to

1036
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: the defensive side. Yes, the defensive line could be very

1037
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: good and linebackers are good on paper. You gotta you

1038
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: have you know, Chop, Robinson and guys coming back. We'll

1039
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: see if they're healthy. But you know, Chubb and Phillips

1040
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: basically didn't play last year. And then Seeler you out

1041
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: of Kenneth Grant, so at the front seven has potential.

1042
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: It should be decent against the run, they can get

1043
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: some pressure. But who's stopping anyone in the secondary? I mean,

1044
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: you got Mika Fitzpatrick who's on the decline, he's he's

1045
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: wid You get a Ramsey that net loss there? And

1046
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: who are your starting corners? You lost your only decent

1047
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 3: one to a season ending injury in uh what's his cater?

1048
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: I always forget is oh, okay hot for the year?

1049
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: Who you're starting corners right now might be? And Mike

1050
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: Hilton is he's probably your only one and you're like, okay,

1051
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: but he's not getting any younger storm Ducks from Duck

1052
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: Kendall Sheffield might start like this secondary is probably the

1053
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: worst in the league. The offensive line is arguably the

1054
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: worst in the league. Those are not two places two

1055
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: good places to be at. I think this that this

1056
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: team has managed so poorly. Uh this they guy wouldn't

1057
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 3: be surprised they finished like four and thirteen.

1058
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would.

1059
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I would go under seven and a half. I would

1060
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: go under six and a half plus one fifty exactly.

1061
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: This team, this team has a very low floor. They're

1062
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: worst at the places that they can't afford it. Like,

1063
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: you know, tackle, but if you got to tackle and

1064
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: then their skill guys are getting hurt left and right,

1065
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: even though some of the front seven guys are getting hurt.

1066
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: So in their secondary is even if you any even

1067
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: if you can score, because you know, maybe Tyreek turns

1068
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: it around or Wado bounces back to a stays healthy

1069
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: and you could score, your secondary is gonna get torched.

1070
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: So and if they're cooked late in the year, you

1071
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: think this Miami team is gonna have any interest in

1072
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: going outdoors in December to New York, Pittsburgh, and New

1073
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: England three outdoor games late in the year up northeast.

1074
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: Probably not so. Uh Yeah, I'm out of Miami all

1075
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: the way out.

1076
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets justin fields at quarterback, you got Aaron Glenn.

1077
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there could be a culture change at least,

1078
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: But I think the best thing that Jets got going

1079
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: for them is that Miami's also in this division. What

1080
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: do you think about the Jets that there? I mean,

1081
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: their defense will be solid, but this offense could be

1082
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: a little rough.

1083
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jets, They're just I feel bad for Jets fans,

1084
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: like they're just what is the what is the best

1085
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: case scenario for the Jets this year? Like, what do

1086
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: you like nine eight nine, Like yeah, so like Field,

1087
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: they bring in Fields, we know who he is is

1088
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: an electric runner, can't really throw it. The offensive line

1089
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: if like Membo and Fishano hit at the tackles, could

1090
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: be decent. And then I assume they're going to rely

1091
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: on the running game, which should be pretty good. It's

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00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: this offensive line hits with fields in their backs and

1093
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: in an offense line that's trending up, I think, but

1094
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: like everyone's just gonna stack the boxes. Who are you

1095
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: throwing to? It's just Garrett Wilson, He's gonna get so

1096
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: much coverage.

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00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then it's interesting because with the running backs,

1098
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, in theory, their running backs should be good,

1099
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: but Priests has always been a better receiver.

1100
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: Than a runner.

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00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: He's had like a couple of long runs that have

1102
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: kind of outside of those, he's been very kind of.

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00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: And Fields doesn't really fit. Underwhelming Lions inks from offense

1104
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: and what they want to do, like get rid of

1105
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: it quick.

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00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: And Tyre Taylor's already hurt, so he might who knows

1107
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: if he's even.

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: Gonna be an option Martinez Baby, yeah right, Brady Cook,

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00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: I think he's you see on the I think he's uh. Defensively, yeah,

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00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like they added Harrison Phillips because they were

1111
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: pretty weak in the middle, So uh, I think it

1112
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 3: was like a decent get just like raised the floor

1113
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: of the defensive line. We'll Stephen Johnson's available. Like I

1114
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: don't know, I think their defense got worse, but they

1115
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: could bounce back just because their their secondary just had

1116
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: a down yere like Sauce Guaranner had a down year.

1117
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: We'll see what Aaron Glenn can do there. I mean

1118
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: after Sala left, they just fell off a cliff. And yeah,

1119
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: the coaching should be better overall, the culture should be

1120
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: better as well. But like they had a Brandon Stevens

1121
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of so, like I think they

1122
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: downgraded c B two safety like Cisco. Like I don't know,

1123
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: but Carter and and Gardner could bounce back and you

1124
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: got some town on the front sets and the defense

1125
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: could be decent. But like this team just bored. And

1126
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: there's special teams could be better too, Like they their

1127
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: special teams last year were a disaster just kicking wise,

1128
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: so they can't be worse there. But uh, yeah, I

1129
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: think the defense should be a little better. Soft gone

1130
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: or probably travel more against opposing ones. I expect them

1131
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: to bounce back, but like, I'm not sure the fit

1132
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: of like this offense with fields and they don't have

1133
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: the weapons and just a boring I project them at six.

1134
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: So like I show a little bit of six to one,

1135
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 3: I show a little bit of value in the over,

1136
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: but absolutely it's no interest in betting them.

1137
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's one of those situations where I'm always

1138
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: a little more wary of these the defensive head coaches

1139
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: because I just think, you know, offense is obviously more

1140
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: important in the NFL if you have a quarterback already,

1141
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: like if you have Joe Burrow or something, I don't

1142
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: mind it as much, But when you're talking about justin fields,

1143
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes the offense just gets like

1144
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: it's like the head coach needs to have a grip

1145
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: of the offense too, And already some of the things

1146
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: are just kind of all right, this offense might yeah

1147
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: it's it's tenor Engstring coming over from Detroit where he

1148
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: worked with Ben Johnson, But justin fields is your quarterback,

1149
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: You're already talking about either trading or or using your

1150
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: best player less, which is Breese Hall.

1151
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: You have your receivers.

1152
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: You're just bringing in all the old you know, Detroit

1153
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: slash like McVeigh, guys like Tyler Johnson and Josh Reynolds.

1154
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: Uh, you know you really have anything there and you're

1155
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: like tight end who knows?

1156
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: I mean Taylor maybe he's good, but yeah, it's I

1157
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: just think the offense when you have this, when the

1158
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: defensive head coach like Engstrem could have just been getting

1159
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: by on on Johnson who knows, because I don't.

1160
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this offense is setting up necessarily.

1161
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: There's a lot of they play a lot of really

1162
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: bad teams and like, you know, you play the Browns

1163
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: after you're by at home, like who knows what the

1164
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: who will be starting at the quarterback? You host the Panthers,

1165
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: like there's this you play that you put your at

1166
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: in New Orleans. The Bills the last week of the

1167
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: year could be a free win, yep. But you know

1168
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: you played Miami twice, who are low on as well,

1169
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: and you could get you could get the Steelers week one.

1170
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: But the thing that I worry about with the Jets

1171
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: is that we just talked about what they want to be.

1172
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: Just run the ball. That's fields to strength when they

1173
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: play the Dolphins, like the Dolphins, Rundy should be decent. Like,

1174
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: can the Jets actually take advantage of the Dolphins secondary

1175
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: which is their biggest weakness. I'm not sure. Now they'll

1176
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: get them at home like in the coal late in

1177
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: the ear, and I think the Dolphins will be dead.

1178
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: But that does worry me a bit, is that, Like

1179
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: I don't think that the Jets are like the last

1180
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: team that can take advantage of where Miami is weakest.

1181
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: So just throwing that out there, but summarize for me.

1182
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: AFC South, I played the Titans over and I like

1183
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: some Jags upside not super Bowl, but like division playoffs,

1184
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: and I played the Jags over as well. Nothing else there.

1185
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: AFC East, I played the Dolphins under and that is

1186
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: it there for now. But all Dolphins hate all the

1187
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: time on this podcast.

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00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like.

1189
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: Uh. I like the Bills for you know, winning, you

1190
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: know the big tickets, super Bowl Conference one seed, uh,

1191
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: Dolphins fades all under under seven and a half, anything

1192
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: you want, right missed the playoffs. I mean you'd have

1193
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: to weigh like minus two fifty, but I don't mind it. Uh,

1194
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: if you can get an exact finish I like Bill's Patriots, Jets, Dolphins.

1195
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: I think that that's ah, you know, kind of still

1196
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: what's expected, except just the flip of you know, playing

1197
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: into the Dolphins bottom falling out there. But that's that's

1198
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: that's it for the FC East for me, and then

1199
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: Jaguars everything all win overs, win total over, make the playoffs,

1200
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: win the division at three to one uh and then

1201
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Colts fades, Daniel Jones fades, and I think the Titans

1202
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: are the second best.

1203
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't bet the Titans to.

1204
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: Win the division, but if you're looking for a value,

1205
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: like the value outside of the Jaguars, maybe you know,

1206
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: the Jaguars aren't getting talked up a lot in certain circles,

1207
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: so if you're trying to fade that too, I think

1208
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: the Titans are the bet in the AFC East. I

1209
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: think the if you're looking for a long shot, it

1210
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: would be Patriots to win a division you could get,

1211
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, five to one or better. I think they

1212
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: would be the team if the Bill slipped up. I

1213
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: think they would be the only team that has a

1214
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: decent shot. I think I just think there's a big

1215
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: gap after them, between them and the Dolphins and jets.

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Speaker 2: All right, that is going to wrap it for today's

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