WEBVTT - "The Bush Push" with Matt Leinart | USC vs. Notre Dame 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.080 Will ferrell Snoop Dogg at practices, I would have signed instantly, Dude. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.640 Kobe and Shack had just got off their three p 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.400 I think Shack had bounced. The daughters weren't great, the 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.119 Kings weren't great. Like it was our town. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.560 Today, we're looking at the infamous Bush Push two thousand 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:22.119 and five USC versus Notre Dame, one of the oldest. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:22.320 College football rivalries. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.040 We had a two thousand and four Heisman Award winner 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.640 QB for the Cardinals, Texas and Raiders, Matthew steven Liner. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.720 The aura that you guys had as a college football team, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.559 the history of the titles, the Heisman's, the games. I 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.400 sat there and I thought you guys were pro. That 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.720 was the life we had, Like we would go anywhere. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.080 We were treated like celebrities. We could get into any club. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.879 At eighteen, it was wild, Dude. Right when I got 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.479 off the bus, I'm like, this is gonna be about it, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.360 And they come out in the green jerseys and we're lying, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.840 Oh my god, I just hate under Damn dude, I 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.680 still hate Unre Dame. The next play is when I scrambled, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.200 I hang on bumble. The next thing I know is 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.960 their storm in the field, and I'm just like, what's 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.199 just happening? I just lost the game? So I come 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.440 in and I swear to god, dude, it was the 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.440 loudest I ever been. I couldn't hear myself talk. I'm 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.639 getting a goosebumps just thinking about Liner. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.600 You gonna try to sneak it, am speak a touch. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.680 Games with Names is the production of iHeartRadio. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.520 Games Just Names is doing a live show, and you 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.399 guys bought so many tickets so gosh darn fast that 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.360 we are adding a second show. Come hang with us 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.000 August thirtieth at the Wilbur Theater in Boston. Pre sale 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.000 tickets are available today, February eighth, at ten am. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.160 Go to the Wilbur dot com and use the promo 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:49.320 code GWN. They're moving fast, so don't wait. I'll see 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.040 you folks there over in Boston. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:53.080 Let's go. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.480 Welcome to Games and Names, presented by Win Bet. On 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:03.040 today's episode, we are talking the Bush Push two thousand 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:08.920 and five USZ versus Notre Dame with Matthew Lionert the 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:10.560 Lefty Heisman Win. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.720 Oh my god. As a Domers fan, I'm still mad 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.160 about this game. I don't even want to get into it. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.560 Right, you're a Domers fan. Oh yeah, are you a note? 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:19.560 I'm a Domers guy. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.640 Is that? Is that what they call the Golden Dome? 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.639 You're a Domer thought they were called losers. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.160 Get out of here, Get out of here. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:28.880 Man. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.000 We'll save this for the post. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.600 I'm all riled up already. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.240 Episode. That was awesome. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.960 That was awesome. One of college's greatest dynasties. We go 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.200 over that USC, I mean at that time was insane. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.720 The partying, the rappers on the sidelines. 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:45.400 We all know. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.720 We get the inside scoop though, Brian Routes with Snoop 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.360 Snoop out here doing one on one Snoop a loop 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:57.480 and the transition from being a college icon superstar hero 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.720 to the rookie in the National Football League. Good insight there, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.600 great insight. Great to see his perspective. A lot of 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.880 people don't realize, you know, you're twenty two, you just 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.680 won the Heisman, or actually you played it a year 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.800 after you won the Heisman. 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Join when Bet today 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.599 and bet with the official online gaming products from wind 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:44.680 Resorts All right, guys, let's go though. October fifteenth, two 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:50.040 thousand and five, Notre Dame Stadium, South ben Indiana. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.839 Down thirty one to twenty eight with seven seconds left 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.960 on the clock. Bat linerd steps to the line of scrimmage. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:00.120 Is he gonna sneak it? Oh my god? What's Reggie? 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:07.159 This is the bush Monday, bro, Let's go. Let's go. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.000 This is awesome, dude. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.560 Welcome to Games with Names presented by win Bet. Today 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.640 we have a very very special, very special guest. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.800 It's just it's so good to be here. It's it's 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:22.080 you know. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.360 We got a two thousand and four Heisman Award winner. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.800 It's our third Heisman guy. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.520 We had Ricky Williams, Peyton Manning. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.240 We had a first team All American College Hall of 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.400 Famer QB for the Cardinals, Texas and Raiders. Host of 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.920 Big Noon Kickoff on Fox. I watch it every Saturday. 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.880 We have Matthew steven Matthew Stevenler. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.440 What's up man? What's up man? 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:48.880 How you doing? 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.880 I'm freaking pumped to be here, dude, are you yeah? Good? 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.560 I mean, by the way, I just saw Bruce Willis 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.039 over there on the walls. Maybe it's a chopper. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.520 Huh, who's motorcycles this? 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.240 Maybe it's a chopper. That's a great, that's a great. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:03.920 It's dead. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.960 What are you up to besides tiktoking right now? I 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.359 see you on TikTok. I mean you are committed, dude. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:10.640 You're in it. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:11.560 Daily content. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:11.800 Bro. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.239 I was told I need to push out daily content. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.240 I'm like, are you sure? And they're like, yeah, so 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.760 I'm I'm in the football content right now on the 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.880 road doing all that stuff. Yeah. It's a lot, but 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.560 it's fun, it's working, it's it's it's paying off, it's 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:25.720 it's building a little bit. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.400 I like the Manhattan Dad stuff. Yeah, the manhatt coaching stuff, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.599 like this is the coach stuff, the. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.680 Big the starter. I did a Manhattan Beach starter pack, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.800 so you're familiar with the South Bay Manhattan Beach. I 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.119 did a Manhattan Beach starter pack, and that one kind 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:44.480 of like catapults me up in the South Bay because 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.520 it was like, you know, man, like we're retired. I'm retired. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.320 I walk around there. No one really cares. It's great. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.960 It's a great place. But like I got stopped more 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.640 for that the Manhattan Beach Dad's Thing starter pack than 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.839 anything else I've ever done. It was like, oh the 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.719 mahabe it was and from Why Mom's Divorcees Dads, it 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.600 was hilarious. Was it one of them to have an 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.880 suv with tinted windows with them all the way down? 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.000 Was that? It was? Is that a part of that one? 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.680 It was a golf cart? You have a golf have 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.960 a golf cart? Uh? You got the aviator nation everyone, 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.000 the creation, the juices that you're you know, you spend 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.440 thirty dollars for smoothie. I love it. Yeah, I love it. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:23.720 So yeah, it's all good man. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.840 So today we're looking at the infamous Yeah, Bush Push 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.080 two thousand and five USC versus Notre Dame. Huge rivalry, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:33.680 huge drivery. I'm wearing the hat. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.800 I love it. I saw the content you did. You 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:37.760 guys went out there. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.840 You and Brady Quinn walked through the bush. The Bush 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:41.960 Push had. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:42.440 A lot of fun. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.480 You broke into the locker room, you did break an 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:45.320 alarm went off. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:46.680 Yeah, we did awesome. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.680 So what does this game mean? Is this like your guys' 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.840 biggest game sc Notre Dame. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.920 You know, it's interesting, it's it's a it's an it's 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.560 a different kind of rivalry game because you have a 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.960 lot of like UCLA is our rival, but I mean 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.840 it really wasn't a rival when I was there, But 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.840 that's the crosstown rival in the battle for La Notre 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.280 Dame is so much bigger. It's historic. I don't know 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.720 if it's not Michigan Ohio state, but it's an historic rivalry. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.400 And I wish I knew how it started, but it 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.640 was pretty fascinated how it all started. I think it 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.840 started between like the President's wife and someone else at 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.000 the time, like thought the two should play or something, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.920 and like that's how it kicked off. But like the 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.920 history of the titles, the Heisman's, the games, some of 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.280 the performances, like it's just very unique. And that was 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.920 my first time back since the Bush Bush game, so 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.120 eighteen years. Obviously you're playing, you know, I don't go. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.480 I didn't never went to the game. And then my 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.760 job now we hadn't covered a game at Notre Dame. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.160 So it was really it was really cool, man like. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.120 It was. It was cool to go back. I'd gone, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.760 I played there twice, but to walk the field with 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:58.680 Brady to kind of relive this game, it was wild, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.120 man like. It was cool. It was It was cool 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.880 to be back. A lot of changes or a lot 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.120 of changes though, so it's tourf now, which sucks. It 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.040 used to be it was long grass in your game. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.080 Was watching they hear it got hocked because of that 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:10.800 long char. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.160 Was like, you know, Jared was like a four to 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.280 seven guy. He couldn't. Well, they grew that out for Reggie, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.320 they grew dude. They we actually had like I think 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.960 we had one of our kids towards a cl because 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.120 the grass was along and one of their alignment toward 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.160 their a cl. We were pissed. Were like, dude, the 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.640 grass was like six or seven inches off the ground, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.120 and it was all just to try and slow down 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.600 our offense. And obviously, I mean it worked at times, 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.720 but Reggie went off that game still, so it didn't matter. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.960 It's kind of like when you play like that's what 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.360 the Bears always did. Yeah, the Bear, Yeah, they keep 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.640 that long grass. I'm I miss grass. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.640 Though, man. Yeah. So it's so that part was different, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.960 and you know, just to smell of grass and just 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.839 like you're walking on it, it just feels different. Uh. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.480 So that was a little different. And then they added 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.319 they just renovated the stadium, but it still had the 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:58.640 same field. It's kind of like the I don't know 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.120 if you've been to the Coliseum, but the USC's coliseum. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.840 They condensed and so they took out like twenty thousand seats, 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.040 but they still have grass. It still has the same 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.520 feel of the Bowl. But tell me what, man, you 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.079 touchdown Jesus the history in that place. It was good 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.839 to be back. It was good to be back. That's 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:16.720 some good performances. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:21.240 Yeah, I mean, a man with one point five national championships. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.679 Beat one point five? What are you talking about? But 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.400 didn't you guys have you guys kind of co We 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.400 split one, but we got screwed. I know. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.400 You know what the crazy thing is, we're kind of 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.040 in that same age group. And I was in JUCO 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:36.200 this year. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.400 I think when you guys were were you at Kent State? 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.880 I went to Kent State the next year six oh six. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.560 It was my first year at Kent State, and I 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.440 remember watching you guys in like the aura that you 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.000 guys had as a college football team. It wasn't like 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.559 a college football team. I sat there and I thought 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.520 you guys were pros. And I was in the same 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.640 age as you guys. I was like these guys. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.840 Dude, it was it was why so like at that 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.320 time we got to remember too. So my first year 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.680 was Pete's first year. We were awful. We were six 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.640 and six, but you just felt it was gonna be different. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.720 I mean, he's still trucking along now, like fucking eighty 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.480 years old, but he's still growing. But like, you just 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.320 felt it was different. The staff was great. We had 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.120 Carson obviously, who was great. The next year it just flipped. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.120 It was one year and we were we beat Iowa 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.320 and the Orange Bowl, and then the next year was 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.880 when I won the starting job. But to your point, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.280 it was like it was we always talk about this. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.600 There was no football then. Uh, Kobe and Shaq had 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.280 just got off their three p I think Shaq had bounced. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.560 The Dodgers weren't great, the Kings weren't great. Like it 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.400 was our town, like like La was our town. And 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:46.880 Pete loved it. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:47.160 Man. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:51.040 He enraged. Oh dude, he was like, why wouldn't I 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.120 use this as my recruiting tool. It's this is our backyard, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.720 Hollywood entertainment, celebrity, the lifestyle, like let's go, come, come, come, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.440 I'm joining this ride with us, and he didn't it. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.120 Will Ferrell Snoop Dogg at practices. I would have signed instantly. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.560 Dude, Snoop is the best man. Snoop I threw passes 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.360 this yeah, one on ones, He's out there running. He 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.120 loved that. Dude we had. I'll tell you this story 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.760 is one of the is one of my best stories, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.040 and so I think it was. It was right after 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.240 I won the Heisman my junior year and I came 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.600 back and in that timeframe the game. Remember the Rapper 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.319 of the game. So he was a big a S fan. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.960 He's from uh I think he's from Compton, and he 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:32.840 was a big reggie. He would come to the sideline 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.640 come of the games. He asked me to be in 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.880 his music video. It was Dreams. So it was like 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.840 Serena Williams. There's a couple other athletes in there, and 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.520 I was like, shoot, okay, let's do it. So I 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.839 took Lindell White, I took my boy b Hans, who 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.640 who's a backup quarterback, and we went over on the 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.320 Sony lot and I'm walking in and I'm caring this 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.800 big ass Heisman. I'm in like a gray hoodie and jeans, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.559 and we go and I see doctor Dre right when 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.120 I'm walking in again worked twenty one years old. Dre's 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.720 like hitting us up. And then we go into his, uh, 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.880 his trailer, and it's like eight of his dudes in 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.960 his trailer. You could imagine what that thing smelled like. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.880 But we're in there. I put the heisman on there 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.160 and this dude is like heisman this, that, and I'm 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.200 just sitting there with my boys. Lindell's probably lighting one up, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.360 you know, We're just sitting there do telling stories. It 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.680 was the coolest thing and so the best part about it. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.920 We then shoot the music video and the funniest thing 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.600 is I'm watching like this guy do a music video. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.120 It was cool and dreams like was one of his 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.520 hits back then, and I'm in it and I'm like 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.680 walking out of the fog with the heisman, and long 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.559 story short, I never I didn't make the cut. I 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:34.959 didn't make the cut of the video. He didn't put 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.240 me in it. I was like, O game. I was 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.560 here for like six hours. But it was the coolest day. Man. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.080 So that, Like, dude, that was the type of stuff 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.440 we got to do. Man Like it was. It was nuts. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.960 So he grew up in Santa Anna, which is Orange County. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.000 Yeah, it's not right I grew I didn't grow I 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.240 grew up very uh. I mean I grew up in 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.240 like right on the border of Santa Ana, Costa Mace. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.000 I grew up right by Modern Day in my high school, 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.480 super just working middle class. My parents both worked full 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.560 time jobs. You know, we didn't have a lot of money, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.880 but we you know, we went to My mom wanted 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.480 to get us into private school. That was like she 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.600 wanted us get us out of that district. So my 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.959 brother went to Modern Day, which was five minutes away. 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.040 He was five years older. And then they worked hard 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.240 to get us there and that was that was it. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.440 Who was your who's your college team? Growing up Ucla? 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:28.800 The Cade McNown era, Dude Cave McNown, JJ Stokes, Danny 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:33.680 Farmer yeah, uh, Deshaunvoster and Deshaun Boss was a couple 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.240 of years old. I mean he was a stud I 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.040 loved cade McNown because he was a lefty and they 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.400 were really good. So like, I got recruited heavily to UCLA. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.600 But when I went there, it's just like it was 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.000 it was just a different feel man. And I got 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.080 nothing against Ucla, I really don't, but it was just 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.560 it was like Ucla, It's just like this place kind 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.800 of sucks. It just felt boring, like it just felt boring, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.160 there's no energy. And then I was getting recruited by 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.960 Paul Hackett. Don't know if you ever played for Paul 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.760 or but it was Paul and Hugh Jackson when they 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.800 were at s C. And even that energy was better, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.000 even though they were terrible. But Pete brought in, and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.920 Pete was with Sarkisian and Kiffin and this staff was loaded, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.280 and it just felt right even though we weren't good. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.640 I was just like, this is where I want to be. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.480 So Usilla was my team. But s see, it just 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.680 it felt it felt uh it was I mean, it 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:23.440 was the right decision. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.320 Geez. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.240 So let's get back to modern day. Modern day. You 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.040 guys have three Heisman trophies. The only high school in 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.960 America we have three with three and the third he's old. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.440 John Hewart, Yeah, John Hewart, John Hewart. Where do you 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.680 go to school modern day? No college? Notre Dame. I think, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:52.200 are you getting what are you talking? No, dude, that's bad. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.240 That's a bad TV col Bran and rest in peace. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.440 I know it's my boy. He was. He was a 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.680 monster at Hawaii. He was my backup at modern days. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.120 We were best friends and then yeah, he so he 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.320 kind of, you know, he had his path. He started Colorado, 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.760 then went to Juco, kind of got his life back 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.200 in order, and he bawled at Juco. He walked on 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.920 for June Jones at Hawaii and just balled like he 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.760 was a ballar. Dude, like he was a baller, and 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.000 he was runner up in the Heisman. So we played 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.840 on my senior year. We went out to Hawaii and 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.200 I was and we had I think we had a 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.800 better something. We dropped seventy on him, dude, but he 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.000 he balled. I mean it was like seventy to twenty 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:29.960 or something. But he played. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.680 Okay, that's back when those Hawaii teams were just they 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.280 were ing, dude, just dude the run and shoot manball 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.280 sixty times a game and he was like the flag 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.800 carrier for the dude. He So he got drafted to Washington, 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.920 Washington like fifth or sixth round, and I remember I 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.640 was so happy for him. Bald in the preseason and 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.920 tore his hip up and his and he just never 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.440 like he was I think he was third string, but 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.040 he was balling. Got him might have been Shanahan at 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:00.400 the time, Mike Shanahan and uh fit perfect kind of 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.960 who what type of quarterback he was? And uh, he 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.879 got hurt and I think he tore his laboram and 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.680 his hip or something and he just never got back. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.800 But like I thought, he probably would have stuck around 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.440 a little bit, dude, because he could. He could, he 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.920 was accurate, he was smart, and then he just he 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.880 had a lot of problems, dude, and just feel bad. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:16.080 Man. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.480 Yeahstory was the first time you met Pete Carroll and 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.960 you said Hugh Jackson was modern day, modern day Yeah, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.080 because he so I had so when chewing gum, probably 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.280 he's drinking mountain dew and chewing gum. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.880 He came out. So when when Hackert got fired, I decommitted. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.480 And then actually Bob Stoops, who was at Fox for 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.200 a while, Who's the Greatest Guy Oklahoma came in real 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:43.880 hard and that was the year they won the title. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.960 They played Florida State and then Josh Hipel and they 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.040 that they were they were awesome. So they were recruiting 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.639 me and then I committed early to s ce DE. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.600 Committed because didn't know who the coach is going to be. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.320 Bob came in Hard Oklahoma, was like and I was like, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.000 it was pretty cool. But then I want to visit Okay, Yeah, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.720 but then I went to Norman. I was like shit, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.679 I was like, dude. I was like, bro, I'm sorry, man, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.320 but I can't go. I can't live in this place. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.159 I just it was like I was just couldn't. I 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.440 couldn't go there. But I was like, I was fascinated. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:12.960 They were great, you know, but I'm like, I just 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.040 can't see myself in Norman, Oklahoma. But the first time 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.200 I met Pete was at MO today. He came to 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.959 practice and just we threw the ball around and obviously 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.560 he was trying to get me to commit there. Norm 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.160 Chow came. That was a big reason why I stayed 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.960 because Norm Chow his his history. He had just coached 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.920 Philip Rivers and NC State, but he had like you know, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.680 all the guys at b Yu Detmer, Jim McMahon like 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.880 he I mean, he was the quarterback guru. So yeah, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:40.919 that was the first time I met Pete Man probably 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.480 chewing gum, freaking a dozen Mountain Dews a day. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.840 So you love you love so Norm Chow his son's 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.800 my agent. Carter Chow really Carter Chow. Yeah, Carter Chow 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.080 is one of my age and TV now in football, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.080 he's part of you and dubin sports, he's part of that. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.200 Yeah, he's a stud and the Hawaiian. Yes, so I 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.520 know so Cam. I know Cam a little better because Cameron. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.359 It was in Manhattan Beach for a long time. Carter, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.159 I know a little bit. I haven't seen them in 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.640 forever though. Norm actually just called me today, did he randomly? Yeah? 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:15.160 I will, I will. Yeah. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.359 I just went out to Hawaiian and hung out with 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.320 the family. They a little bit in the north. It's crazy. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.640 Now, tell us about this quarterback room rookie or freshman year? 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:24.239 Freshman year? 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:24.560 You got you? 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:29.560 Carson Palmer? Who else? My Castle? Your boy? Did you play? 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.240 You played with Cast? 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:31.280 No, you didn't. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.120 That's how we met. Castle played with Welker. He played 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:34.560 with Welker. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.080 But we met because I used to come out, remember 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.320 and throw with you guys at beach because I linked 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:41.000 up with Casts. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:46.240 So my freshman doing TV too? No, I love cast. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:53.200 Talk talk about a career dude, Jesus Carson Castle me. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.960 Billy Hart was the other freshman that came in. Billy 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.280 ended up getting drafted by the Yankees like sixth, like 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.359 tenth round or something. Played baseball for a while, just 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.440 I mean, just a clown show. It was awesome because 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.320 Carson's like, I mean, you know, Castle Castles just well, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:11.760 Carson used to come out and throw with this too. 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.679 And Carson's kind of Carson is like I always tell 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.720 everybody he's like the driest sense of humor. But he's 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:21.520 he's like, he's the funniest dude. He's sneaky funny man. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.879 He's just because like he's not like super social, but 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.720 when like, he's just sneaky funny man. And Castle is 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.160 the opposite. Castle is just a clown. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.760 The first time I met Castle, I don't know how 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.800 it came up, but he got a piece of paper 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.720 and he drew through three guys. He drew him Tom 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.680 Brady and Vinnie Testaverdi. Do you know where this story 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.760 is going. No, he drew him with a medium sized dick, 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.520 Tom with a decent sized dick, and then he just 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.919 threw that went off the fucking page. For Vinnie testaverdy 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.480 and that's the first thing he ever. I'm like, I've 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.520 heard of you, Matt Castle, but why are you telling 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.520 me about any testa bird he's done? Like, that's the 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:03.480 first thing he told me. 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.080 That's something. Does it not surprise you? So we you know, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.040 we'd be sitting at practice and I'd be you know, uh, 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.439 this was my probably my first two the second year too. 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.399 I'd be taking a knee, you know, like leaning on 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.880 the helmet as whatever, and he would just come over 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.399 and just hawk a fucking loogie on my calf, just 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.520 just like that. And I and I would I would 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.680 just I would put like I would get big old 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.960 boogers and just throw them in his helmet. All this 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.359 ship we did the stupidest stuff, man, But you know, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.640 locker room ship. But Castle and Castle and Carson would 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.119 wrestle Monday or Tuesday every week. And and both those 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.720 dudes are big dudes, like Castle bay ass legs and 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.800 Carson just a big human being. And they would go 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.840 at it. And I don't know if you've ever wrestled, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.040 but they would wrestle for like three minutes straight, which 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.639 they're just like they're like dead dude. He used to 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:56.480 wrestle with Brady. Yeah, probably probably the same at He's 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.840 just he's an idiot and the best idiot way. I 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.760 love that. He's a fun guys, is he's the best. Now, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.440 first time you met Reggie, uh, probably his recruiting trip. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.200 Should I remember seeing his highlights? I don't know if you, guys, 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.720 I mean San Diego, right, I remember? Yeah? So he 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.639 was he You know whose quarterback was? 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:15.200 I do? 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.920 Once you say Alex Smith, Alex Smith, I knew that helix. 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.399 There were two. There were like three highlight I don't know. 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.200 We used to do this the recruiting class coming in 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.320 Pete would show like all of the recruits our highlight 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:31.920 video and the three I'll never forget. Well, Brian Cushing's 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:36.919 was ridiculous because he was returning puns, playing running back. Linebacker. Uh, 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.040 Jeff Byers was our center. He was the number one 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.119 he he never he actually never really he started a 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.200 little bit, but he was the number one lineman in 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.720 the country from Colorado, I think. And this dude was 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.560 just a monster. And then Reggie and Reggie's highlight was like, 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:57.399 holy shit, dude, this kid like that run every it 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.320 was just he was he was he was a highlight. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.720 He was a video game and that's how it was. 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.680 Like the first day probably recruiting trip. And then I 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.480 remember so his first year, so he is one year 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.479 behind me, so I still wasn't playing. Was that playing? Oh? 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.000 I think I was playing. I think I was a 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.119 red shirt sophomore and his his true freshmener, so I 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.200 was two years ahead of him. And he came in 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.840 and actually, dude, he was like kind of like second 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.159 third string of we had three backs. We had Lendell 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.640 who was a baller, and we had Chauncey Washington who 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.600 actually was was on the depth chart right behind Herschel 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.760 Dennis going in and Reggie was kind of like Scatt 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.000 kind of used him in return, but he wouldn't go 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.240 He would go in like third. But we knew in practice, 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.840 were like, dude, this kid, he's just reversing field like 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.639 and our defense was nasty. They couldn't tackle him, they 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:50.359 couldn't get to him. He was I say this openly, 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.720 like he's the best I think, best college football player 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:54.520 I've ever seen. There's a lot of debate, obviously, but 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.199 what he did and like the most electric by far, 0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.040 I think him and like Mike Vick. You know, like 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.720 those are the two at least in that Williams could 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.399 be throwing. I mean there's a lot of guys I 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.520 just think, like, but overall, what Reggie did, like you 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.159 just can't like. Reggie was just like he was a 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:10.320 human highlight film man. 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.119 Who's the one guy in the team that needs a 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.119 little more love that that his name gets passed around 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.280 a little? What do you mean who no one really 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.560 talks about? Because when you think of those teams, on 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.399 those teams, we think about you, Reggie Bush. You think 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.119 about some of the d guys, but it's usually you. 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.639 And Reggie Bush. I think Lindell White, Lindell White. I 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.600 mean I receive like well, I also say, you remember 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.960 Mike Williams. M hm, dude, that was the most dominant 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.760 dude I've ever seen. What do you get? He went 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.840 to Detroit, he was he went he overall or so, 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.720 he was like ninth or tenth. So they had just 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.320 drafted I mean they were that was a bad years 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.359 to be in Detroit, but they had they drafted Charles 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.720 Rogers the year before, so they drafted two receivers back 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.920 to back, remember that. And then he bounced around he 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.560 went to Oakland, Seattle a little bit. 0:24:58.880 --> 0:24:59.119 He was. 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.680 He was unbelievable. I think Lendel White is the one, 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.840 just because he gets overshadowed by Reggie. I'm telling you what, 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.119 like one of the best pure football players. You know, 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.320 you play with just pure guys at any level, Like 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.640 and Quombolton, to me was like the best pure football 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.840 player I've ever played with. Like just this dude could 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.040 start at safety. Received he was just a football player. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:25.000 Lendell was like that man, Like he was so naturally good. 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.119 He didn't have to try at all. That was probably 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:28.880 part of his downfall a little bit. He just didn't 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.920 try as hard, probably as he got older. But he was. 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.399 He was special man, and he was a big Without him, 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.280 we don't win those those titles. Short yardage dude, he 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.919 but he was. He was two forty four or five four, 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.840 six broke tackles, quick pick up blitzes. He just did everything. Man. 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.320 This season, he had fifteen and twenty one total yards and. 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.000 Scread I think he's our twenty sixty. I think it 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.000 is the all time touchdown leader at USC. He's got 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:53.000 like sixty something. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.320 Right total, He's got fifty seven fifty. 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.919 Seven and by the way, well, by the way, what's up. Yeah, Reggie, 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.639 it's mad a lot because we big down on the 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.000 five and they put Lendel and Lendell had like twenty 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.080 touchdowns inside the five. Reggie, get us down there. But now, 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.440 Lendell was a stud man. He's probably the one that 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.200 gets people kind of like, oh, I remember how good 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.720 he was? You know, yeah he was. He was a beach. 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.040 He was just such a good one two punch. Did 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.520 this dude? So we play Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.480 and that was the year we won. He had a 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.800 spraining ankle like end of the season, so he didn't practice. 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:28.960 He was you know, he just kind of didn't. He 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.760 kind of showed up when he wanted to. He didn't 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:36.679 practice all bowl season, proby three weeks. Showed up at 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.960 the game two fifty five, two fifty five. He's like 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.200 six two two fifty five and ran for like a 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.280 buck fifty on him and looked like he was running 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.879 a four to four and didn't practice one time. It 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:49.719 was like it was honestly one of the greatest performers 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:50.200 I've ever seen. 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:55.960 So what what made Norm Chowell's offense is so electric? 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.399 Was it you guys obviously had players, but we oh 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:00.639 Wes West Coast. 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.400 It fit me really well, getting the ball, fast timing, 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:10.000 you know, play action stuff, bootleg stuff, and then we 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.360 just did We had dogs, man, we had we had 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.480 those recruiting classes, those handful even after I left for 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.440 a couple of years. I mean that run from like 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:22.120 two to ten, probably nine, eight or nine years was unbelievable. 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.840 Like the he left, you guys when became the head 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.520 coach of Titans. He left at the he left at 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.600 a very opportune time for himself. Oh Chile, you're talking 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.920 about yeah, oh oh, Child left. Yeah, so Child left, 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.040 I was talking about Pete. Pete left right before all 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:40.280 the ship went down. Child left my senior year. So 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.840 he took the OC job with the Titans with Jeff Fisher. 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.720 But it was it was fine, like because Sark and 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.080 Kiffin then became. Sark was my QB coach and then 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.800 Kiffin was the OC. They were co ocs, but we 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.280 didn't I mean, we didn't skip a beat. Obviously they were. 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.399 I mean they're really good. So so you guys are 0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:00.159 essentially like, like you said, there was no LA Pro 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.000 team at the time. 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.480 You guys were the pro team. Now, what was the 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.920 best part of it? Obviously going to all the club 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.000 what was the worst part of it? 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:11.960 I think, you know, for me personally, I think looking back, 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.480 the perception that gave me as I went into the NFL, 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.000 I think for sure, I don't. I always say I've 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.919 said this, like, I don't think I helped my cause 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.120 a lot. But I also like, wasn't like what everyone thought. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.239 I was. Like, we were in college. We worked our 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.520 ass off, we won, we played at a high level. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.560 We just were like, that's just that was the life 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.159 we had, dude, Like we would go anywhere. We were 0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.480 treated like celebrities. We could get into any club. At eighteen, 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:45.360 we were living like normal college kids that in that city, 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.520 in Hollywood, because that's just all we had. Yes, he's 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.840 a terrible college town. We weren't like either we were 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.000 going to a frat party who they hated us because 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.680 we were the king of the town, or we go 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.320 to a Hollywood club where we can get in and 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.000 like drink and whatever, you know, Like so and we weren't. 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:00.360 It's not like we were going out that much. We 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:01.880 just when we went out, we went out, you know, 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.840 Like and so I think the worst part was just 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.560 how that perception carried with me in the NFL. It 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.320 wasn't obviously, and again, like I said, I made mistakes. 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.480 But I mean the best part is I mean, the 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.280 best part is what I said. Man, we just I mean, 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.240 the stories I could tell for days. Man, it was 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:18.920 freaking awesome. 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.720 Weill this what's your what's the wildest celebrity encounter that 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:22.880 you had at one of those clubs? 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.280 My my Nicholas, she was like one of my best friends. 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.120 Is kind of funny how we met. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:28.160 But. 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.240 Dude, we I just like we would we would hang 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.800 with like DiCaprio, we would hang with because in that 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.880 in that time, there was no camera phones and that 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.160 was like the top of the club game because everyone 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.640 would go out because no one there was no one. 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.480 I mean, I don't even I think a camera phone 0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.640 might have came out a couple of years later, but 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.680 there was no worry. You know, you had security, no 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.400 one was taking pictures of it. You could just do 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.800 whatever the hell you want. Kid Rock I was I 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.760 remember boozing one night heavy with Kid Rock. I was 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.880 like I was like twenty. It's just like it was 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.680 just it was like it was just random in the offseasons, 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.840 every time you went out, you just ran into people 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.720 and you just and they knew us, you know, and like, 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.000 and then our boys ran the club, so they would 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.680 set us up with the best table next to whoever 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.480 was there. So you would just I mean, you know 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.360 it is you would just mingle and it was just wild, dude, 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.480 It was it. And the wild part about it was 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.480 it just felt it was just super normal for us 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.640 for those years. Yeah, Kyler, wrap up this dynasty? What 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:29.600 else we got? Okay? 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.240 So I just want to like throw out some quick 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.720 stats on this. Pete Carroll era at USC, the uc' 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.080 dynasty from two thousand and one to two thousand and nine. 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.120 The Trojans went ninety seven and nineteen. There's a two 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.800 thousand and three AP national title, two thousand and four 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.600 national title against Oklahoma, and then two thousand and five 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.440 lost the national championship game in Texas, which is probably 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.360 the best best game of all time. And I can't 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:51.680 wait to do that one here at some point. 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.720 Do have a we have a huge Texas fan that 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:55.720 wants to do that game. 0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.640 Dude. We get vy here? Why is the best? Who 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.160 vincientzin now? And we were think Vince, we do Vince two. 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:09.040 His last name rhymes with uh McConaughey, McVay chamane. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.600 They rhymes with that. Is that McConaughey. I don't know. 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.520 I'm just saying, if we lock it, if you get McConaughey, 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.720 or I'll coming back because I'll talk smack to him. 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:20.640 All right, book it seven? 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.680 All right, all right, all right. 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.800 Seven consecutive Pack ten titles, thirty three straight weeks at 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.680 number one, which is wild. From two thousand and three 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.720 two thousand and five, finished top four in the eight 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.000 peo pole for six straight years, three out of four 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:35.960 Heisman winners from two thousand and two to two thousand 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.880 and five, Palmer, Liner and Bush. Fourteen players select in 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.680 the first round during that time, and twenty eight players 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.440 selected in the first two rounds NFL Draft. That's the 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:44.320 USC dynasty. 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.959 Incredible, dude. And then from twenty ten to like twenty 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.120 it was like nobody. So that was the Pack ten 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.160 or twelve whatever we were. How sad is that we 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.640 were Pack ten? I remember you guys, Packed ten. It's sad, 0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.880 But they only have their cell themselves to blame. 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.240 They really do stupid, so smug pac Ten was always smug. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:05.680 We gotta get you, We got to get you in 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:06.720 the college space a little bit. 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:07.280 You know. 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.400 No, dude, No, we can't write, can't stay, don't belong. 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.040 You can't read, you can't write, can't stay, can't We 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:13.440 just don't. 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.880 No, you're a crossover. You're a crossover. 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:16.680 It's tough. 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.880 No, it's not. I got you. Although that's how I 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:21.960 feel in the NFL, I'm like, God, you know, I don't. 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:23.840 I don't think I fit in the NFL, that I'm 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.880 more suited for college. Yeah, you fake it till you 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.360 make it. Man, we'll get you. We'll get you on 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.600 the show. Dude, they would go nuts for you. Are 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:31.880 you kidding me? You know what? 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:36.400 I honestly, I got so mad. I didn't understand. Call 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.080 it like where I grew I grew up in the Bay, 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.720 so we used to like I used to like to 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.160 high school Woodside. Nothing big part of the Bay though, 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.720 because Peninsula right by Palo Alto. So when I grew up, 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.920 there was Stanford in Berkeley, like whatever, you go to 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:51.480 those games. 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:52.880 It wasn't like a crazy college. 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.280 I mean that was they were both of them were 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:59.200 pretty good. Aaron he was bawling over there. But then 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:00.960 I went to I went to Ohio. I went to 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:05.080 Kent State, and people used to get up and leave 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.800 our game to go watch the Ohio State game, you know, 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.240 like that. I didn't realize how big Ohio State was 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.600 until I went to I didn't know college football. You know, 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.000 you don't get that environment when you live in the 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:18.640 Bay Area. 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.880 Dude, why don't we get you to Michigan Ohio State. 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.680 You're hot, you're an Ohio native. Ish yeah, ish, but 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.080 then cub will be there. You guys fly back at 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:27.600 the same time. 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.320 But you know, I'm also come on, I'm also kind 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.600 of bluey because the guy I used to toss me 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:34.000 the rock. 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.400 I think he might. We always usually try to get 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:37.920 him on the show. Maybe he'll come on the show. 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.920 We'll see if his schedule allows him. Yeah, let's go back. 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:42.040 What's he doing now? 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.320 I think he's just buying teams and being a dad 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:46.400 buying teams. 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.280 Delta consultant coming, He's coming to Fox right the Fox 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.360 at some point. Maybe, I hope I'm here it's fifty 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.320 to fifty. I don't know. No, he's I heard he's 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.240 been working. You know, if he jumps into it. I know, yeah, 0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:59.880 he jumps in. He'll be good, He'll be good. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:06.480 We'll be right back. After this quick break, let's go 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.480 back to October fifteenth, two thousand and five. This is 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.680 a segment we do. We try to live in that moment. 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.799 The best movie was The Fog. I don't even remember 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.320 this movie, you did. I'm not a scary I'm not 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:18.239 a scary movie guy. 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.080 I do. I do remember that. I do remember the movie. 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.360 I remember Gold Digger by Kanye West. 0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:29.000 I still remember that. Yeah, yep, by the way, by 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.920 the way though Twilight, huge Twilight fan. No shame in 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.479 my game day Edward or the other one Team Edward 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.080 or Team That's good. Oh no, no, the Wolf did 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.680 the Wolves. I was Team Edward really a little bit. 0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:42.600 I used to love you. Don't strike me as a 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.879 Team Edward guy, I know, but my sister liked him, 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:47.680 and I kind of like, I don't get I didn't 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.200 get the I mean that I don't think he's a 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.360 good looking dude. I didn't really get the hype around him, but. 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.839 I think it was he was like the goth cool kid, 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.400 you know, like against the grain. 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.240 Yeah, you know, I was definitely the wolves. 0:34:59.600 --> 0:34:59.960 I used to. 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.520 I loved those houses because when those movies came out, 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.399 I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a movie guy. 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.560 I didn't read the books. They used to have such 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.640 cool houses in like the Upper Northwest. Oh, like the 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.880 modern House in the forest. Yeah, no, those are good movies. 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.279 I'd actually rewatched those movies. 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.040 I like those movies. 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.560 What we got in sports the sports world first international 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.600 game Arizona defeat San Francisco and Mexico City. 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.040 We played in Mexico City? Did you how was that? 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.520 I didn't play? Actually, what years it hurt my knee? 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.000 What year is that? Seventeen? But we went out there. 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.560 What year did you get drafted? You got dry nine 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.919 and then you retired in twenty twenty. Hell of a career, dude, 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.600 it was, it was. It was a good one. I remember, dude, 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.400 when we train you and your long hair, and I remember, 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.080 and that was when you were backing up kind of 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.240 west right. You were kind of like following his mold. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.440 I remember, dude. I was like this kid, I was 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.839 a kid because you were we were young. I was like, dude, 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.080 this kid's gonna be good. Dude, Like he's like he's 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.959 got it man, and you freaking you just took off, Dude. 0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.360 I worked hard and oh yeah, no, I know it 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.919 was dude, it was fun. It was fun. 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.840 But that Mexico City, that that the altitude's at like 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.000 ninety eight hundred feet? 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:07.400 Is it? 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.520 It is? People don't know that that our stadium. I 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.400 heard Mexico City is kind of a cool, insane, so 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:13.799 we did. 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.320 I did a documentary there to promote the game, and 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.320 then I ended up tearing my knee up. But we 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.680 went out there and spent a week in Mexico. Mexico 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.640 City was so fun, culture, the food was amazing, went 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.000 to hot Do you wa con? 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:27.839 You didn't play in London? I did? 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:28.320 Did you? 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:28.919 I did play? 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.960 Say you guys in London? We went to London twice? 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.760 Did you like that? Honestly? 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.239 I had a blast because we with a lot of beer. No, 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.719 we're a domestic sport and so they treatd They just 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.080 were so excited, right, Not really, It's just it was 0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.040 exciting for us because you get to have. 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.919 That that That's not a terrible flight for you guys. 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.880 No, it was like six and a half hours, but 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.839 the sleep schedule did get messed out. I wasn't used 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.960 to going, you know, out of the country at that time. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.160 But yeah, London was cool. The grass was super long. 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.880 Though. I bet those fans are not speaking of the Cardinals. 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:06.440 Can we talk about Dennis Green the greatest rant of 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.480 all time? We were? They were? 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:09.080 Who was? 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.480 You know the backstory of that? Okay, So my rookie year, 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.719 we played the Bears third game of preseason. Third game. 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.799 Starters play most of the game, right, first half at least. 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.960 And so I start that game and we're in Chicago 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:24.880 and we beat them. And that was the year they 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.160 went to the Super Bowl. Er Lacker, Lance Briggs, I 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.120 mean they were they were stating their defense and nasty 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.399 Pina Tillman. Yeah, their their d line was was really good. 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.920 Tommy Harris I think was there, and uh, we just 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:37.719 we outplayed them. We beat them, and we're like and 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.759 so when we played that game, we were one in 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.480 three or four. My first start was the week before 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.880 and we missed a field goal to win against the Chiefs. 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.440 Ty Lob you play with tie, No, he picked me 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.520 off in that game, but we should have won that game. 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.000 And then the next week was Monday Night football and 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.760 it was like first time we were on Monday Football 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.920 for years, and we knew going to that game, like 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.879 we could beat this team. They five an hour front 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.440 of but we're like they had sexy, rexy, like they 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:04.920 went on a run, but they had a great defense. 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.359 Their offense was average, and we came out smoking, dude, 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.160 like we were up twenty one to three or something 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.440 like that, and then we took the foot off the pedal. 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.080 They started making some plays and then freaking Devin Hester 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.439 ran one back to go up with like four minutes left, 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.640 and then a minute and a half left, we drive 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.400 down and we get a field goal arranged twin and 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.440 we miss again. We missed two field goals back to 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.640 back games to lose. So then I get so then 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.160 the postgame conference and Denny and I'm sitting the funny 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.040 the funny thing isn't and Mark Dalton is still the 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.000 pr guy there, and so I'm standing outside with Mark 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.960 and all I hear is they are they thought they were? 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.560 We let them off the hook. You want to crown them, 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.399 crown the ass and Teddy was Eddy was awesome, dude, 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.080 And I'm just sitting there like and I'm still pissing, like, 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.480 holy shit, dude, like, I gotta follow this. So and 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.120 then Mark's like you hear Mark's like, all right, next 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.520 up is Matt Leonard's walk in there. I'm like, you know, 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.120 And I was a rookie dude, so I didn't really 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.320 say much. I was pretty quiet, like you know whatever, 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.120 and that was it man, and he we were. He 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.120 was so angry because we I mean, we should have 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.279 won that game we had him doing. We just we 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:11.960 choked it away. 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.120 It's got to be crazy for you, a guy that 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:19.760 comes from the most talented team probably in college football 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.920 history at those at that time, then going to a team. 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.440 We had so we had, we had Larry and we 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.320 had an Kwan and that's what we had, two of 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.879 the best to ever do it. Larry certainly and then 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:38.799 and Kurt was there, who eventually resurrected his career. We weren't, 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:42.319 I mean we were. We had some good players that year. 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.600 We had Like even my rookie year, I played pretty 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.640 well and we were like, okay, and then I heard 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.120 my ac the last game of the year against San 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.799 Francisco Jo Joint. But yeah, and it was like Mile 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.040 and Alex Guerrero took care of me. But it was 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.719 like grade twos, but I was it was like I 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.360 think it was a second to last game, so but 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.200 I was playing well whatever, and then okay, then the 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.840 off season, then Danny gets fired, new coaching staff comes in, 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.320 and that's where for me personally went all downhill. So 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.000 like to get drafted there was one thing, but like 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.920 showed a lot of promise. And then that second year, 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:17.960 I was coming off the injury, so I didn't really 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.239 have a good offseason, and then I was I was 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.160 OTA's I was finally healthy and stuff. But it just 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.719 it just was like from the get go, just this dude, 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.360 and like you know you've been around coaches like you 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.640 just I was screwed from day one, like I felt 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.960 like and again I didn't help myself at times, but 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.799 like there was nothing I could do right. It's tough 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.160 when you're it was first ruined me a quarterback that 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.960 the coaching staff gets fired who probably went on you know, 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.680 on the table for you, and then all of a 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.800 sudden they're bringing in someone else and it's it's almost 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:50.479 like they can't. 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.600 They're like, we gotta go somewhere else because it buys 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.759 that coaching staff more time. 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.640 Well, and we had Kurt Warner who had already won 0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.880 a Super Bowl, so like to Glove Kurt Warner at 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.000 the time, Glove, I went dude. At one point I 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.759 went to two Gloves because this dude, I was pissed, like, 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:06.960 so I got I was there four years, so like 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.799 year three, so year two we split time. The first 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.839 six games, I broke my collarbone out. For the year 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.440 year three we had a duel. He beat me out, 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:17.960 and then that's the year we went to the Super Bowl. 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.440 But that was also the year where I'm like, so 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.160 he was two Gloves always and I'm like, dude, you're 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.360 screwing me because he would use brand new balls and 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.560 those brand new balls, I couldn't throw a brand new ball, 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.640 and like I don't have I have big hands, but 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.960 I don't have super big hands. I'm like, dude, you're 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.080 gonna make me go to Gloves dude, because I couldn't. Like, 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.640 he did not give a shit, and I tried to 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:37.960 get him like, hey, can we get some of these 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.080 old balls in there and just like this in case 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.680 I have to go in and he was like, hey, whatever, 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.319 but most of them were So I went to Two 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.640 Gloves a couple of times I felt like an idiot. 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.680 I actually threw the ball right in it, but I 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.320 was like, what come on, dude, I look, I already 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.600 looked bad enough in my uniform. You're gonna make me 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.000 wear these nasty ass nikes. I tried two gloves after 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.439 that for a while. Did you know the ball quite 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.479 a bit? When I was you used two. 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:05.000 Gloves because we used to have like crazy weather games. Yeah, 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.120 and I felt like when you did, you could you 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.640 could get really good some tripical force on the ball. 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:11.560 You could spin it. 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.560 I didn't, I to be honest with you, like, but I. 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.520 Felt like sometimes it would stick in your hand. Yeah, 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.200 and so sometimes you you'd be dead accurate with it, but. 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.560 Yeah, and it's sticked too long and yeah. Yeah, it 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.040 felt that I actually didn't throw too bad in him. 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.000 I didn't mind it. It just I was just like, dude, 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.040 this looks awful. What was gonna say? 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:29.560 Was I? I? 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.160 The year I got my mojo back was in Houston 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.960 with Kubiak. Yeah, and it was like I was with Orlovsky, 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:41.400 I was with Shob and then you're six. Did k 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:42.440 have all the answers then? 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:42.640 Too? 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.080 He's the same as on TV's the same as he 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.520 was then. Uh, but we had a fun we had 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:54.240 that was about what he knows football. He was always 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:55.879 like he should be I bet he'll be a coach 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.799 one day. Although I know he likes he likes the freedom, yes, 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.600 but Kubiak was so like Shanahan and like that tree. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.000 It just it went back to my college days. It 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.840 just it felt right here was that That was eleven 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:10.920 and twelve out of the year. 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.040 Was that the year you guys came to our house 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:18.120 in Letterman Jackets Houston. No Houston came one year in 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.680 let like the whole team had a mantra. Now where 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:25.000 Letterman Jackets no Fu we were we never I think 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.280 we beat him, like forty eight to three year student. 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.440 The only time I ever came to New England was 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.719 preseason my rookie year, and dude, I'll never forget. It 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.840 was week two and week one I was still holding 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.680 out for my contract. So Week two was the first 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.919 time I met New England. And it's Willie Mack. It's 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.440 junior I think Bruski. It was like, you know, like 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.440 those defenses were nasty and I think I played against 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.960 him a little bit. I actually played pretty well the 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:51.680 game that was the only time. And then the year 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.520 Tom went out with the ACL you probably weren't there yet. 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.480 It was oay before Yeah, right before he went out, 0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.200 cast Dog beat us and West went off. It was 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.799 a snow game and they beat us like forty one 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.120 to ten. And actually I actually came in afterw a 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.120 touchdown to the Larry that game. They were down thirty points. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.879 That threw a go route to many. Kyle's pretty sweet. 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.600 But that was a year we ended up going to 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.000 the Super Bowl. Yeah, we were eight and eight. We 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.480 went to the playoffs eight and eight, and we just 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.799 made a freaking run. Dude, you gotta get hot at 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.000 the right time. We started with the home game because 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.960 we won our division, so we played I think we 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.640 played Green Bay or Atlanta, so we had a good 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.800 matchup there. And then Philly was the one seed or 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.520 two seeds. They lost to Carolina, but we had whooped 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.719 Carolina that year at Carolina, so we're like, like it's 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.920 set up perfect. Oh no, no, no, no, no, that's 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.360 our Carolina. We went and then we hosted Philly in 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.759 the NFC Championship and we had the perfect run to 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.400 get to the playoff or it's a Super Bowl. We 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.640 should have won the Super Bowl. We lost Corner. Well, 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:51.280 we got Kyler. 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.840 The Letterman Jacket game was in twenty twelve. 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.439 Yeah, so I was gone. Yeah Texas they were Letterman Jacket. 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.239 Yeah Texas. The Texans went to New England in Him 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:01.800 and Jackets. They lost forty. 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.040 They always had good teams, but we had well that 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.600 was we were playoffs. I mean the two years I 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.160 were there, we were we lost to Baltimore. Dude, both 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.839 years at Baltimore, I mean they were just they were rocking. 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.040 But we had Aaron Foster was a beast those years. 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.200 Andre Johnson Demico Ryans was our middle linebacker. 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.280 Miko what a what a stud he's been doing. I meanmember, 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:23.680 I'm so like happy for him. 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.239 I'm happy for CJ. Stroud. 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Kind of somewhat famously, Weis told 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.040 his players every game, you will have a decided schematic advantage. 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:54.480 That was his quote there. They started the season unranked. 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.759 They were four and one leading up to the Bush 0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.799 Push game, with one lost to Michigan State ranked number 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.279 nine in the country at the time. Some notble names, 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.280 Charlie Wiss as we mentioned, Brady Quinn quarterback, Jeff Smarja 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:10.320 wide receiver, and Thomas Zibakowski the boxer, the boxer safety. 0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.840 He was such a cool dude, Zibokowski. I don't know 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.480 if he met him, but he was the beast dude. 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:16.920 I was like a fan of him. Some mars are 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.760 pitching in the big leagues for like twelve years, twelve 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.240 and he was a baller receiver too, insane. 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.440 I remember him always catching deep post rides. 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.160 He was six ' five dude, and like he just yeah, 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.239 I told you, just still go routes to the guy. 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.080 He because he could jump. He was He was a 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:31.960 good receiver, man. 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:33.839 I mean, that's the smart way to do it. Though 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.440 he probably has a lot more money and a lot 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:36.279 less pain right now. 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.040 So he was making like ten MILLI a year just 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.840 pitching like every five days bullpen too. I know, I 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:43.960 wish I would have done that. Set the stage. 0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.840 We already kind of set the stage for the Irish 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.520 shaw so Us two thousand and five USC Trojans. They 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:53.080 were coming off an undefeated season, having beat Oklahoma fifty 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.719 five nineteen in the two thousand and four National Championship game, Matt, 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:57.720 you won the Heisman. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:58.359 Uh. 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.520 They were riding a twenty two game win streak. Fourteen 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.759 returning starters from the twenty fourteen team. I think a 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.399 lot of those on offense. The number one ranked team 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.080 coming into the year. Notable coaching change, as we mentioned, 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:14.839 Norm Child left the Titans coach coach o to Ole 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.600 miss Uh brought in Steve Farkis as QB coach, and 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.880 Link Kiffin was elevated to OC Noble names peak. You 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:22.680 don't need the noble names. We all know the USC 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:23.399 notable names. 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.399 Geez, let's get into there. So yeah, you get into 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:32.040 the game. First half terrible. You guys are kind of battling. 0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.839 You guys scored first, they're they're leading at half time. Dude, 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.120 I played awful that game, awful up until like one 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.120 the last play. Why I was played bad, dude, just 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.080 it was my It was we had struggled against Arizona 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.520 State a couple weeks prior, by knocked out of that game. 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.440 I couldn't see straight. I stayed in, but it just 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:56.200 for me. I'll never forget. I felt the pressure of 0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.120 coming back and it wasn't even about winning a Heisman. 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:00.560 I know it was gonna want it was like just 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.560 trying to win a third championship. But just I just 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.440 felt pressure that year to be great, Like I had 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:06.040 to be great. People like you were gonna be the 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:07.560 number one pick if you came out. I was like, 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:09.839 I don't think I was. I wasn't healthy, I didn't 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:11.960 feel right. So there's just a lot of pressure that 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:13.759 I kind of put upon myself to like have to 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.480 lead this team. So you didn't go back. You came 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.880 back because you thought so I was supposed dude, So 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:20.279 I mean, you know how it works. But it was 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:24.440 me Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers and I had just 0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.840 came off the great performance in the Orange Bowl and 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.680 so like kind of riding that wave, and I had 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.080 a messed up elbow I ended up getting surgery on 0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.800 and that was a part of it. And also honestly, 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.120 I just I just don't want to leave school, Like 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.880 I'm like, I love what we're doing. Truthfully, Like I 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.040 had just graduated, so I had to take one class 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.680 my senior year ballroom ballroom dancing dude. So I took 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.280 that with Mark Sanchez. By the way, san Chito, san Chito, 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:56.040 he was a true freshman. But anyway, so Notre Dame. Okay, 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.520 so they were good, like it was. It was it 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.320 was a first. I told this to Brady that not 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.360 too long ago, we got off the bus on i 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.720 think Friday, like Friday, walk through, go to the stadium, 0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:10.279 screw around a little bit, and there was like six 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.640 hundred students waiting for us, and so the story goes. 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.600 He told me, He's like, you know why they were there. 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.279 I was like why, He's like they had a pep 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:21.279 rally the night before. They said, heyes, he's getting here 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:25.239 at two o'clock. We need to show out, talk shit, 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.719 do whatever you need to do, like screw with them. 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.120 So we get out. A Notre Dame is not really 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.640 like it's not really like a hostile environment, you know, 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:34.960 like it's a it's a cool place to play, but 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.360 it's not like probably playing in the SEC or some 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:41.080 of these crazy atmospheres. But that year was And we 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.759 get out and I'll never forget Sark's like Sark takes 0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.800 me like kind of by my shoulder and he's like 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.160 walking me through. They made a tunnel for us, but 0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.560 they're just like signs, talking shit, flipping us off. It 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.000 was awesome, dude. I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be fun. 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:56.839 So that's when I knew. Right when I got off 0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.440 the bus, I'm like, this is gonna be a battle. 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.319 Because they were good too, like they like they could 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.600 have easily beaten us. Obviously, that was when I knew. 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:04.200 It was like, all right, this is gonna be a game. 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.600 And then the game, man, it just started slow, dude, 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.560 Like it was just kind of like one of those games, 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.880 like feeling each other out. The second half picked up 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.480 for sure, Like the second half was more back and forth. 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.719 The first half was just slow. It was just one 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:20.360 of those things. 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.920 And then the one thing that stands out to me, 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.160 let's just talk about that last drive, because you guys 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.439 are going back and forth. You guys weren't playing that great, 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.080 and that could be because of rivalry. I mean it 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.640 was a hostel environment. You got touchdown, they had a 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:37.480 punt return to Zibakowski over here boxing and returning punch 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:41.040 for we got let's walk let's walk down this last. 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:41.920 Drive that you guys had. 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.920 Before we go to the last drive, I want to 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.080 touch on one thing that note that Notre Dame did 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:52.520 switchero stupid they did. 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.040 So they they came out in their traditional blue or 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.160 their dark navy for pregame. When they went back in 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:00.759 and they didn't break you said they didn't know. It 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.920 was a surprise. So I think they've worn maybe the 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.759 green jerseys a handful of times, right, but prior to that, 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.120 for like matchups or I think when it was the 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:10.560 number one team in the country, maybe. 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.200 They also have not to cut you off. They have 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.680 they're kind of street killers a little. 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.120 Bit, so there was something of something behind it. So 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.719 they after pregame, they go in and Brady's like, all 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.759 of our green jerseys were hanging, so they were like, 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.200 let's go, Like there was you know, it was like 0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.759 just totally amp and them up. Motivation is D two 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.799 the Mighty Ducks. You're back kind of right, dude. 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.040 Remember that when they became Team USA and they. 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.359 Come out in the second half. Dude, by the way, 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:38.919 top top five sport movie of all time. Uh yeah, 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.560 So then they come out in the green jerseys and 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.359 we're like, oh my god, I just hate Notre Damn Dude. 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.560 I still hate Notre Dame. Just a bunch of Aragon assholes. 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.040 But that's fine. That's for another story. So that just 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.719 that just was like, screw these guys. But okay, the drive. 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.440 So Brady scores with what two minutes left? 0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:57.560 Right? 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.800 It was a couple of minutes two four, and obviously 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:04.040 plenty of time. We had a couple timeouts or one 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.359 time out. At least you guys have that third you guys, 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:10.440 I remember twenty third. I remember every played do the 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:16.200 first play cover two it was like a comeback turned 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:17.879 to a fade. It was not open, so I threw 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.280 it out of bounds. Second play, I get sacked. Second 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.200 and twenty or yeah, I get sacked. So now it's 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.320 third and twenty and we call time out. Hit Reggie 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.799 and I'm on the sideline and they're like, I don't 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:31.560 know what play we called at that point, but we're like, 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:33.840 if it's not there, just check down to Reggie. Obviously 0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:35.560 it's for that. We're going for it and four down. 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:38.600 Let's try and get half back. A little check down here. 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:40.239 How is the guy's eyes in the huddle when you're 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.520 calling this player? Are we are? We dialed locked in? 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:44.800 And I'll get to that. It was. It was. It 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:46.960 was one of the coolest and you've been in huddles 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.400 like that for sure. Super Bowl game winning drives, like 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.440 we just knew, Like it was just one of those 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:52.759 things where you didn't even have to say anything. It 0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:55.120 was just like we've kind of been there, dude. We 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.759 had a couple comebacks in this time. Everyone thinks we 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:00.520 blow everybody out. There were a couple games were like, 0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:02.319 hey we got we got a fourth quarter, we got 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.719 to step up. Yeah, it just we just it was 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.719 pretty cool. So third and twenty we get eleven back. 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.160 So then I think we might call time out again. 0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.080 I think, yeah, it was another timeout because we yeah, 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.160 it was another thing. Was our last time out we 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:19.479 call I'll never forget trouble right sixty one? Sam why option? 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.879 All right? So it was trips right, So front tight 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.160 end dominic Birder's good was running an option round right 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.919 around the sticks cover to Steve Smith, who was great. 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.480 It was gonna run a kind of post split the 0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:30.759 safety kind of high low there, and then if it's 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:34.279 single high, Dwayne runs our backside comeback, which he was 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:36.560 great at. And that was the matchup always liked anyway. 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.120 And then Reggie's out on a little option route. But 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.959 they said, hey, if you see any single high. Let's 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.360 let's check the slug go win. Old school slug go 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.319 win was our bread and butter. And I don't think 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:50.560 it was it. It might have been Zibakowski, but so okay. 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.960 So the part of the huddle, so I come in 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.480 and I swear to god, dude, it was the loudest 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.879 had ever been in and Notre Dame's not traditionally loud. 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.960 But I couldn't hear myself talk, and everybody is just 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.880 you could just see it. Everybody's just like laser focused. 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.759 I'm like trouble. I'm yelling troubro. I see someone saying, hey, 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:10.719 look for my hands. I'm gonna I'm gonna check the 0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.239 slogo win if I see this, look whatever. And at 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.560 the line of scrimmage, I don't even think like I'm 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.799 getting goosebumps just thinking about it. I don't even think 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.719 they heard me fucking say hi, dude. They it was like, 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.120 you know, dude, when all eleven or on like the 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.480 same page. To make a play to win a freaking game, 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.439 or to make a play like that is like nothing 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:32.680 better in football my opinion. Everybody does their job, especially 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.640 especially in a moment like that. So like Yeah, the 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.480 throw gets a lot of credit, but the line, like 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:42.280 every we checked didn't hear shit, everyone's slid protection blocked 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.000 Dwayne just right over the shoulder, boom out the gate 0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:48.759 for sixty. Then gott it got howked because if it 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.160 would scored been like over a minute left, they probably wouldn't. 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:52.759 The probably would have came down and scored on us. 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.040 But that moment, man, it was like it was just 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.520 like looking back, you know, Ei, there's a little nerve 0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.279 You're like, shit, we gotta make this play live, but 0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:02.080 like just never a doubt. It just felt like never 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:02.439 a doubt. 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.239 Then you guys go in and you guys get to 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:05.920 the red area. 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.440 So we get to the red area, Reggie had a 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:12.080 really good third down. That's that's the play people forget 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.239 about because we had no timeouts. Let it was like 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.520 third and four and we ran eight seconds or something. Yes, 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.440 so we ran like a little like outside zone and 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.560 he got the first down by like a yard and 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:26.000 so then the football it stopped. It stopped so then 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.800 we could huddle. So that was a play. And then 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.560 the next play we go scramble. Is when I scrambled 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.480 and I fumble and that was fu were you terrified? 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:38.960 And then dude, I was like When I look back, 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:41.000 I'm like, dude, like I was a pretty good athlete. 0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:44.320 Just jump like three inches higher and I score. Like 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:46.800 I would literally watch that play a thousand times, and 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.760 I'm like embarrassed because I could like I could dunk 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.320 back then, like I was like a sneaky good like 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:54.400 kind of lazy hop I could dunk a little bit. 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.520 But you know, and I look back at that play 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.160 and I'm just like, what an embarrassment that was. But 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:02.440 I fune no clue where the ball went. I kind 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.360 of got you know, pirouidic like that clock goes out 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.760 due well, okay, So I do remember getting up and 0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:08.720 I see the ref like right next to me going 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.560 like this, like clock stopped out of bounds with obviously 0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:14.440 I think they put seven seconds on but with like 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.840 three seconds on the clock. And the next thing I 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:20.000 know is they're storm in the field Charlie Weiss on 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.720 the jumbo tron, and I'm just like, what just happened? 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:25.200 I just lost the game? Literally in my mind, I'm 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:27.880 like but then then they start circling up and I'm like, no, 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:29.520 the ball's out of bounce. So then I'm like, okay, 0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:32.680 we're good. So then the bush push so it's pretty cool. 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:38.040 So the cock y Yeah, So they're all just commotion 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:40.560 there while everyone's getting off the field. We're kind of like, 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:45.000 right the line of scrimmage, seven seconds left and our 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.920 I should have clocked it for sure. Our clock signal 0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:51.680 was always a built in quarterback wedge, no matter what. 0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:55.200 So the linemen always block QB sneak, whether I sneak 0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.560 at or clock it regardless. Obviously they kind of know 0:58:57.800 --> 0:58:59.880 in the time of the game or whatever. But I 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:01.480 I had told him up there, because there was like 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.520 a minute there where I'm going to Pete like, hey, 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.280 this was our sign. You want me to like you 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:09.360 want me to do it? He's like do it like whatever. 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:13.320 So I'm like, fuck it, dude, I'm doing it. So, Reggie, 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:14.800 did he do that to you? 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:17.160 Think Russell Wilson and in the Super Bowl with us? 0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:19.320 I mean, he's not the worst call of all time? 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.720 How about how about dude? How about Marshawn just calling 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.640 him out? I love I love Marshall. Right after that, 0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.200 all the linemen are standing up and Reggie comes up 0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:30.480 to me and I go, what, I go, dude, I 0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.320 think I'm gonna do it. What's trying to do? He's like, 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:33.760 I got you. That was it. It was like a 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.560 two second thing. I get up, dude, and you could 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.720 see there, dude, Zibekowski's right over the a block a gap. 0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:43.120 This guy is gonna box punch me in the face 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.400 as I'm trying to sneak all these big dudes. I 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:48.280 had no business trying to sneak that play. I was 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.640 on the one and a half one yard line. All 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:53.680 I remember, dude is falling, falling in the end zone. 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.040 I didn't even remember. I didn't feel Reggie pushed me. 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.360 I'm thinking I get up. I'm like, might have shed 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:01.320 a tear. Oun't even know what's going on. I'm like this. 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:06.040 And then after the game, Reggie, Reggie, I think there's 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:07.760 a video of Reggie comes on and he goes, you know, 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:10.760 I pushed your ass in, right, And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:13.200 I had no clue, dude, So like the bush push 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.760 became that after, but I had no clue he pushed 1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:17.600 me in because dude, it was just like there's like 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:19.640 fifty bodies on me. Dude, I had no idea I 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:22.520 got in. And now Philadelphia uses everywhere with push Pushed you. 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:26.160 That's where it originated from. So he did that play 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:30.280 with Stafford in Detroit, the same the same play, dude. 1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:30.480 It was. 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:32.400 I mean it was probably ten years ago. He's a 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:35.480 serial push He's a serial pusher, dude. He just likes 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:36.840 to get up in there and just have to be 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:39.560 such a cool feeling. I mean, that's this is the 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:41.120 old one of the oldest, dude. 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:44.840 It's college football rivalries West Coast versus the Midwest. 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:49.640 It was like Cathlics versus the not the convicts, that's 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:52.640 for sure. I would say this dude, Like I kind 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:54.640 of talked about that huddle, like the moment, like that 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.880 was really special looking back, and then like the locker 1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:00.480 room after, like it was the only time you know, 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:03.680 you've been in locker rooms. Like we were so just 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.560 the pressure, dude, Like we were just like and we 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:07.720 end up losing Texas, but like the pressure to win 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:10.560 in just every week. It was a grind, dude. It 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.800 was an emotional grind. And like college students too, Dude. 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.240 That game was so emotional. So we were in the 1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:18.200 locker room and I kid you not, like there were 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:22.080 guys like just crying because they like not like you know, 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:25.520 just like one tier, just like like like a relief. 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:28.120 And it was really it was special, dude. It was 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.400 a really special thing. And then I'll never forget. We 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:34.080 had a player's only meeting. So that was Saturday. We 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:36.800 had a players only meeting on Monday because we weren't playing, 1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:38.920 we weren't playing great and not in the union. We 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:40.440 had a State of the Union, dude, and we were 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:45.000 just like, yo, like we all need to like take 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:48.120 a deep breath and like hold ourselves accountable both sides. Well, 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:49.760 I stood up and talked to remember because I wasn't 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:52.680 playing very well in my mind, and then we started 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:54.320 rolling and then we had the Freends of State game, 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:56.600 which was close, but but yeah, man, that was that year. 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:57.520 Was that was nuts. 1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:57.680 Man. 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:01.680 Well, people don't realize when you guys are like who 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:06.400 you are at that time. Everyone is circling you. Coaches 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:09.400 will get jobs if they beat you. Players are gonna 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.280 get drafted if they beat you. You guys are Americans. 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:17.960 Charley Weiscott paid for a decade off that game. Yeah, 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:20.880 and he got fired and got paid for eight years later. 1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:23.200 I think he went to Kansas. He was getting like 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:26.280 eight million a year from Notre Dame for like eight years, dude, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.320 because of that game. Because of that game. 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:30.520 I mean, that's crazy. 1:02:31.080 --> 1:02:33.840 Then you guys, go on, you didn't, Oh, you weren't there. Charlie. 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:34.840 Charlie was in New England. 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:37.400 He was well, I know everything about He's there's a 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:39.960 he was with Tom right to the first couple of years. 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:43.280 There's an infamous office called Charlie's Office that had Yeah, 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:43.600 I got. 1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:45.320 Brady's got some good Charlie White stories. 1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:48.720 Yeah, and you could always, you know, everyone would always 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:51.000 when we were breaking down the offense because he was 1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:52.880 the one who kind of made our offense with the 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:57.400 zero zero outslot zero out slot zero slot feing, you know, 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.440 and the it evolved to what it became. But he 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:01.680 was definitely a good play caller and he was a 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:05.520 huge part of the early success of those Patriot. 1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:09.720 Teams in Sankowski nine and know what's up. I don't 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:12.080 know in his boxing career, I know nine. 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:14.240 And oh his first match was at Massive Square Garden 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:16.360 while he was a student at Notre Dame. 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:17.040 That's pretty cool. 1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:17.680 Yeah, he was. 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:19.360 He was a good player. He was tough as shit. 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:22.920 Yeah, so just the aftermath, USC went on twelve and one. 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:23.280 That year. 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:25.320 You mentioned the Fresno State game fifty to forty two. 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:27.240 You guys pulled that one out. Reggie Bush won the 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:30.840 Heisman and lost in the in the iconic two thousand 1:03:30.840 --> 1:03:33.160 and five, but six, I. 1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:37.840 Mean, the entire season was vacated. Really backs it? Is 1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:41.919 it back? Though? Who cares? We smashed everybody except Notre 1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:45.360 Dame in Texas, but we're out of the record books, 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.960 that's for sure. But they're gonna bring it back. Who 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:51.920 cares doesn't matter always he's getting his back. I don't know. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:55.000 You gotta ask him. People will say, like, oh, those 1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:58.480 wins don't count, like really, like, it's not like Reggie 1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:00.960 took steroids, dude, Like it's something like he is. It's dumb, 1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:02.840 he took money. 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:05.440 How do you feel about like the nil and that 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:06.800 all being kind of fair game? 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:07.000 Now? 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:08.440 Does it? Like is it like salty? 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:10.040 Or how do you feel about that long time? 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:12.520 I was in the wrong era playing college, That's for sure. 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:16.200 I'm all for anile obviously. I mean yeah, like looking back, 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:18.160 I mean, it wasn't we didn't even think about it 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:21.640 because it wasn't. It didn't exist. But I mean, obviously 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:24.200 people were getting money and all over the country, but 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:25.640 how much money did you get? 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:27.520 How I think how big was the pay cut when 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:28.280 you got to the NFL. 1:04:28.400 --> 1:04:31.040 Dude, I didn't get any money in college. I swear 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:34.120 to God. I swear to God. Just a bunch of freak, 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:36.800 I would boot. I got, yeah, man, a bunch of 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:40.200 club stuff, right. I drove a Ford Ranger. I drove 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:42.400 my first ever car when I was sixteen, was a 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:46.600 stick shift Ford White Ranger extended cab. I drove that 1:04:46.800 --> 1:04:49.080 throughout my college career. I remember when I came back, 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:52.440 I usually drive down the road my my Ranger, and 1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:55.160 all my boys would be like, dude, no one's given 1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:56.800 you a car yet. I said, no, man, this is 1:04:56.880 --> 1:04:58.560 my joy high dude. This and I had and my 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:01.480 dad my dad. I ended up because then when I 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:04.040 got drafted, I got a Tahoe, but I wanted to 1:05:04.120 --> 1:05:05.760 keep my truck. I was like, I want to keep it. 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:08.680 It's like my truck sentimental value. My mom and dad 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:10.840 sold that thing because it was stuck at their house 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:13.000 for years. They sold it without telling me. Dude. I 1:05:13.160 --> 1:05:15.560 was pissed. They're like, this is not you don't even 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:17.520 drive it's sitting in our driveway. We're selling that thing. 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:22.440 No man I got. I just honestly it sounds so 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:26.120 it sounds like I'm lying. I just really wasn't exposed 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:28.200 to it. Like I didn't run into people who'd be like, 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:31.320 hey I did I did uh run into like some 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:34.160 autograph people like at the award show, like hey I 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:36.920 got like kind of like what Manzell did, like hey 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.200 I got one hundred pictures, I'll give you ten grand 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:40.680 And I I remember I was with my brother in 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:44.320 Orlando and we're like now we're good. But like never, 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:47.880 it just never. I never really met anyone like that. Yeah, 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.280 I tell that everybody. I swear, like shit, I wish 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:50.680 I would have. 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:54.040 But Alabama guys and all the Florida guys that I 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:56.000 played with during the Urban years. 1:05:55.960 --> 1:05:58.840 Oh dude, they all took pay cuts. Yes, they took 1:05:58.840 --> 1:05:59.720 a lot of pay cuts. Yes. 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:02.280 So the just to wrap up the game, the final 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:05.000 score is thirty four to thirty one, and then Notre 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:07.920 Dame went on to the Fiesta Ball. They finished nine 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:10.160 to two, where they lost to Ohio State. They lost 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:12.320 the next four games to US. As we mentioned, Jeff 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:14.560 Smarger went on to play for the Cubs, very successful career. 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.120 Toms Mkowski was nine and oh was a boxing career. 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:19.360 Brady Quinnin went to the NFL draft. A few years later. 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:21.960 Weiss was fired and then replaced with Brian Kelly. 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:24.600 Wait, Brian Kelly was he was the next coach. 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:26.000 I don't know that. 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:27.960 I guess there for a long time. Yeah, he was 1:06:27.960 --> 1:06:28.640 there for a long time. 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:35.760 Where is this Bush push rank amonks all time controversial calls? Honestly, 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:37.880 I don't even people talk about that. I don't think 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:40.840 it is well because its technically technically. 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:44.120 Section three, Article two B of NCAA Rulebook states that 1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:47.720 the runner shall not grasp a teammate, and no other 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:50.600 player of his team shall grasp, push, lift, or charge 1:06:50.720 --> 1:06:55.280 into him to assist him in ford progress if the 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:57.280 penalty has been called to push whatever resulted in the 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:58.040 five var penalty. 1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:00.840 Yeah, I can't call that on and we can't call 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:03.000 that at the end of the game. Yeah, I mean 1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:05.560 it could be, It could be. It could be considered controversial, 1:07:05.720 --> 1:07:08.240 that's for sure. And you guys have SC hasn't been 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:13.240 SC since then? Where's it? Where's that dynasty rank all time? 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:16.960 You guys are up there yeah. I mean in modern 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:19.080 day we got I mean, Bama has been a great dynasty. 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:22.120 We got to be up there. Miami had a good run. 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:26.520 I mean I think I would put us. I mean, 1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:28.800 you go back in history books, but I think I 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:31.120 put us up there as top two or three dynasties, 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:34.560 two titles, three Heisman's Yeah. 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:37.800 I mean being a California kid, that was like our 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:41.160 badge because we were like all our best California kids 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:43.080 went there and you always hear about Texas, you hear 1:07:43.080 --> 1:07:44.560 about Ohio State, and. 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:47.600 We I wore it with you guys. I mean, oh yeah, dude, 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:49.880 we always like it was all like that was when 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:53.640 the the cal Texas High School All Star Game was 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:56.160 in Texas, Like, oh we got the best high school football, 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:59.800 which is good Florida, but it was like Cali always 1:07:59.840 --> 1:08:03.080 got a little like slided, I think right always. Yeah, 1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:05.960 it was pretty cool to rep like West Coast and USC, 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:07.960 you know what I mean, like and to beat we 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:10.960 beat every SEC team we played anyway. I mean in 1:08:11.040 --> 1:08:12.680 that era, we beat everybody. You know. We lost to 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:15.360 cal and we lost to Texas, but we beat Auburn, 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:20.760 we beat Arkansas, we be Michigan and even after I left. 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:22.599 We still we had a run, you know, we beat 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:25.759 all those teams, Yeah Tech to beat Ohio, Yeah, Ohio 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:29.439 State at the Shoe Matt Barkley's freshman year, Virginia Tech. 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:31.920 That was a game. Ship. That was a tough ass game. 1:08:32.920 --> 1:08:35.519 We played at uh Prop, we played. We played with 1:08:35.520 --> 1:08:38.720 the Redskins play Commanders now, but so we didn't play 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:45.000 at the Tech. I played you. Yeah, I heard in 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.560 the stadiums built like this. Yeah. So it's not the 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:49.479 biggest stadium like a lot of those old stadiums that 1:08:49.560 --> 1:08:53.439 you guys, but it's loud as loud because there I 1:08:53.520 --> 1:08:56.679 played there in two thousand and six seven. You guys 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:59.439 got smacked up there because they were good those years. 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:00.280 The good. 1:09:00.720 --> 1:09:03.840 Can we talk about Xavier dB covering Reggie Bush that 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:05.880 whole game before he pours tours to pack? 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:07.800 Well, I was gonna say so he he got hurt 1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:11.200 early in that game. Yeah, so that I remember that 1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:14.320 was opening game. I'll never forget. That was oh four 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:18.000 and I was like, dude, this is the fastest defense 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:20.559 I've ever seen on film. They had Eric Green who 1:09:20.640 --> 1:09:23.120 ended up playing with and he was the second round 1:09:23.120 --> 1:09:25.880 pick corner. Their other corner was a first round pick. 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:29.800 I think big tall guy, Jimmy Williams, Jimmy Wall. I 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:31.840 was saying, Jimmy Smith or Jimmy Jimmy Smith was the 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:34.719 calor Jimmy Williams. Maybe, yeah, he played for a while. 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:37.960 Xavier Dbi, but he tore his pack or his bicep. 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:42.120 I'll never forget, dude. We had fourth quarter, they had 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:46.560 just the outside linebacker. He shouldn't have been playing outside linebacker. 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:49.840 And we all we would always offset Reggie try to 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:52.599 get man obviously, and I just he ran a wheel route. 1:09:52.600 --> 1:09:55.439 I'm like, oh, dude, touch. That was the play that 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.200 put us so. We only won twenty four to thirteen. 1:09:57.280 --> 1:09:59.360 A thing, but that was it. I remember seeing that. 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:02.080 I'm like, oh, dude, you're not covering Reggie. I bet you. 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:04.479 Reggie in this day and age would be like if 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:07.679 he were to come and be putting into this football, 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:11.080 he was, he was, he was, he was still dynamic. 1:10:10.800 --> 1:10:13.479 He was still a beast. He was. Yeah, he was 1:10:13.640 --> 1:10:14.920 used that way in New Orleans for. 1:10:14.960 --> 1:10:17.720 What it wasn't as sexy to talk about. He was 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:19.880 Christian McCaffrey before Christian McCaffrey. 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:22.720 Low key, Yeah, he he was probably just ahead of 1:10:22.800 --> 1:10:24.880 his time in that in that role he I mean, 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:27.320 I think his rookie year, dude, he had like seventy catches. 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:30.400 I remember because I mean Sean Payton and Drew like 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:33.000 it was a perfect It was perfect for him. And 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:35.160 then he had he had a good year in Miami. 1:10:35.280 --> 1:10:37.600 I had a good year in Detroit. But yeah, he 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:40.519 just was kind of ahead. Because you know, now it's 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:44.920 now these guys catching balls sixty. You know they're doing everything. 1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:49.080 Man, You know what makes it's a it's a crazy correlation, 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:52.400 but it makes me think the way you guys treated 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:57.680 your team, your practice, your everything. How Pete embraced the celebrities. 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:00.879 It kind of reminds me of today's landscape. What Dion's 1:11:00.920 --> 1:11:04.719 doing at Colorado. It's it's very similar, very similar. 1:11:04.720 --> 1:11:06.920 I think, use everyone to come over here, make it 1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:10.720 a fun place to play. Dude. He has been, in 1:11:10.880 --> 1:11:15.280 my opinion, so great for football, I mean especially college one. 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.200 He's deon right, So he's one of the greatest athletes 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:21.240 where the greatest football players to ever live. He's an 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:26.479 incredible human being. Uh, he's an incredible motivator, inspiring all 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:29.080 these things. Uh, he's pretty good coach. Too, you know, 1:11:29.200 --> 1:11:31.160 like I think he kind of does more of the 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:36.519 just managing and he's the motivator and all that. But dude, 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.920 he's he's totally just like won the transfer portal has 1:11:40.040 --> 1:11:42.880 changed the way college football is. But he's just just 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:46.080 the way he is, Like he's unapologetically him. He gets 1:11:46.160 --> 1:11:49.599 the most out of his players. He's kind of he's 1:11:49.680 --> 1:11:52.200 just it's kind of a fresh breath of fresh air 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:53.840 in a sense, you know, like because he is who 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:55.840 he is. He doesn't give a shit what people say. 1:11:56.360 --> 1:11:59.799 He's he's deon. He's never cared about that his players. 1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:02.120 Like he's got work to do. His players kind of 1:12:02.320 --> 1:12:05.160 fit that mold and they're out there having fun. They're 1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:07.960 they are embracing everything that college football is. N I 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.360 l transfer portal. I'm gonna be me. I'm gonna be 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:15.559 myself because you know, and uh, he's been awesome. Man, 1:12:15.720 --> 1:12:17.760 Like he don't have to win another game and it's 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:20.320 been a major success. He has put them on the map. 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:23.000 He will recruit that place. I don't know, if you've 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:26.200 been to Colorado, it's beautiful, the facilities, Like he can 1:12:26.320 --> 1:12:29.280 win there because they're going to the Big twelve now, 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:32.240 We'll see if he stays a couple of years. But yeah, 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:34.920 he's been great man, great for college football. His son 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:36.799 is a star. Like it's awesome. 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:41.080 We we I mean, you guys originated this is the 1:12:41.160 --> 1:12:45.120 Bush push once once in for Are they out this 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:47.519 you think so? 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:49.920 Yeah, I think so. It's I don't. 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:51.800 I don't think they should. But with the way the 1:12:51.920 --> 1:12:54.519 league's going right now, because a lot of guys can 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:57.360 get hurt, the league is going soft. Dude, you can 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:57.800 get hurt. 1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:00.840 Yeah, the league is, dude. Matt Shaw had a Liz 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:05.160 Frank doing a QB sneak. Albert Hainsworth landed on his foot. 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:08.880 I'll never forget that was then I ended up starting this. Yeah, 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:10.800 I mean they're injuries and all. I just I just 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:12.639 think there's too many people that hate I just think 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:16.960 from a competition standpoint, I see nothing wrong with it. Like, dude, 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:18.960 it's a it's they're saying it's not a football play. 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:22.240 I mean it's probably the original football play exactly stop 1:13:22.520 --> 1:13:25.400 literally the first play that they probably ran it. Dude, 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:28.200 it is. It is just I love it because it's 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:31.200 the major Just fu, you know it's coming and you 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:33.960 can't stop us. For two yards. They've been they've been 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:37.240 stopped a couple of times. He basically said, it's like 1:13:37.400 --> 1:13:40.320 playing like first to nine every time because they know 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:42.599 they can get a yard every time. Plus Jalen Hurst 1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:44.360 just dude, they got a great a lot. They just 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:46.840 they just perfected it. You see other teams doing it 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:49.719 and they can't do it. No, let's go to store 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:51.960 this game. We have this segment where we score it. 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:54.520 We have any leftover questions, Kyler. 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:57.880 I missed a couple of stuff. So Notre Dame and 1:13:57.960 --> 1:13:59.880 USC is a long story rivalry they played for the 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:04.120 Jeweled Chile. It started in nineteen twenty six, The Jewels Chile. 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:04.760 I don't know. 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:05.400 It's like an. 1:14:05.360 --> 1:14:07.680 Irish clan or something. Did you ever use it? 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:08.360 No? 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:10.320 I had it on the show last week because I'd 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:13.320 address up as a Leprechaun. I saw that. That's embarrassing. 1:14:13.400 --> 1:14:15.479 I was embarrassing. You're too told to be a leprecaun. 1:14:15.840 --> 1:14:18.160 It just made me feel ugly. Man. I just couldn't. 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:20.479 I couldn't. And by the way we did the whole 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:22.639 a block in that thing, I was like, I didn't 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:24.479 realize I had a talk in that. I was loud. 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:26.799 I was like, dude, I can't. I can't be serious 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:31.720 right now, we're in this Halloween costume. Anyways, how the 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:35.040 fuck do you guys lose that game? I mean, did 1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:38.280 you watch it? Yeah? I did. They got their ass kicked. 1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:41.439 And then the origin of the Notre Dame USC rivalry 1:14:41.640 --> 1:14:45.200 is recounted as a conversation between wives from Notre Dame's 1:14:45.200 --> 1:14:48.639 head coach Nut Rockney in USC athletic director Gwyn Wilson 1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:53.040 and the Notre Dame leads the overall series forty nine 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:54.839 to thirty seven and five. 1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.960 Did you know they've won eighteen national championships? Is it eighteen? 1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:00.559 And they don't even count half of them? There's shit 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:00.960 I was. 1:15:01.040 --> 1:15:02.600 I saw when I was walking on the stadium. I 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:04.200 saw him all the banners. I'm like, damn. 1:15:05.040 --> 1:15:08.360 And then the fog. I fucked up on the fog self. 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:10.479 Check here. The fog was in two thousand and five 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:13.240 Supernatural Heart. I said, Steph King, it's not as a 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:15.280 remake of John Carver's nineteen eighty. 1:15:15.240 --> 1:15:17.960 Film The FuG Sorry, no one, No one watched them? 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:20.719 And then what yeah? And then one last little nugget. 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:25.400 Colt Brennan's career stats at Hawaii played for three years. 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:28.840 Hold on, let me, let me try one hundred and 1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:32.080 all like twenty touchdowns, one hundred and fifteen. 1:15:32.800 --> 1:15:37.760 One thirty one crazy forty two interceptions, and then he 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:40.360 threw for fourteen thousand and ninety three yards. 1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:42.600 I remember he seen one all time or is it 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:43.559 what's his name? 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:45.080 I'm sure it's some Texas tech. 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:47.840 It's a heat knows, it's a case Keenum, I think 1:15:47.960 --> 1:15:48.479 is all time. 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:50.760 Who is the guy that followed him too? There was 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:52.240 like a Asian quarterback he. 1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:56.600 Was before before he was two before Tommy Ki Chang, Timmy. 1:15:56.479 --> 1:16:00.200 Jimmy Chankuls Slamy because you'd be I think he's the 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:03.280 head coach there now is dude. So my first we played, 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.479 we had a home and home with them, and my 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:07.439 first year it was or no. We played in like 1:16:07.479 --> 1:16:10.360 three years, three or four years, he can't. Hawaii came 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:14.280 to us and Timmy was a quarterback and he just dude. 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:15.600 It was the run and shoot dude. He would just 1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:16.160 sling it. 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:16.559 Dude. 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:19.680 He could play. So he was almost good that like 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:22.200 Saint Louis. I think he was like when that high 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:24.160 school was just sending guys out. 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:26.680 Timmy Chang is the head coach of Hawaii right now, 1:16:27.000 --> 1:16:29.320 he's the second all time in passing yards. It's seventeen 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:30.960 thousand in case games first with Kasey. 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:35.320 Yeah wow, we'll be right back after this quick break. 1:16:38.840 --> 1:16:40.040 So let's score this game. 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:43.519 We have this whole segmenta one out of ten. 1:16:44.640 --> 1:16:46.880 Name of the game is the bush push or the 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:50.559 the bush push game? Bush pushes, Bush push, Bush push? 1:16:50.640 --> 1:16:52.880 All right, so it's just the bush push stakes of 1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:53.400 this game. 1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.080 Zero to ten, oh decimal is okay? 1:16:56.280 --> 1:16:57.400 Twenty seven game win streak. 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.280 I would say I would say ten because as if 1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:03.400 we lose, we're not in the national Championship game because 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:06.680 that was the BCS era, so we probably every time 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:09.200 we could every you could probably look it up, but 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:10.880 I think there's a couple of teams maybe that finished 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:14.559 undefeated that year, so we would have been out. So, uh, 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:18.080 losing your arrival kept us out of the BCS title 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:20.800 game third and no one had ever won a third championship. 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:24.360 Star power, Marcus Allen Ronnie's. 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:26.720 Star power are we doing overall overall the whole thing 1:17:26.760 --> 1:17:30.880 and of the game or history, because you're saying, oh, 1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:32.040 in attendance. 1:17:31.600 --> 1:17:34.479 In attendance, Marcus Allen and Ronnie Lott were there also 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:35.360 Tim Brown and Joe. 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:41.439 Ship that In that case, I mean, you gotta go ten. 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:44.240 You got you got, well, dude, you got before Tommy. 1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:47.400 You got the greatest quarterback of all time. You got 1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:52.479 Tim Brown Heisman, troph in college. Well, Tom is the 1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:55.640 greatest quarterback of all time. I'm just saying before Joe 1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:58.280 Montana was the greatest court back of all time until 1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:02.400 Tom took over. But you got oh yeah, no, dude, dude, 1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:05.080 Tom about Tom's ago. Tom and Joe were the goat 1:18:05.240 --> 1:18:08.400 Joe greatest one. Top two greatest quarterbacks of all time, 1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:11.600 Tim Brown Heisman, Marcus Heisman. Ronnie Lott one of the 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:14.040 best defensive players ever, if not the best. You could 1:18:14.080 --> 1:18:16.640 largue talk never play in this era. Top three one. 1:18:17.360 --> 1:18:19.439 You couldn't cover anybody, no, because he would. 1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:23.000 They just they're they're suspending guys for four plays on 1:18:23.560 --> 1:18:24.840 not even the hardest hit. 1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:27.200 That Ronnie Lott does. He even have a ring finger, dude, 1:18:27.200 --> 1:18:29.320 he just he got that different game chopped off when 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:32.000 he played. It's a different game. I loved Ronny Lott 1:18:32.080 --> 1:18:34.360 was so good. It was a gameplay of this zero 1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:39.800 Oh yeah, because you were probably. Yeah. Gameplay, game play, 1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:41.920 I'd give it a six now I give it a five. 1:18:42.000 --> 1:18:42.880 It was a terrible game. 1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:45.519 Five yeah, but that fourth quarter final draft. 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:47.639 Yeah, but that's two minutes. The whole game was terrible. 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:51.640 The name Bush Push, that's a ten. That's such a 1:18:51.680 --> 1:18:53.640 great game. It is not a great name. It's a 1:18:53.680 --> 1:18:56.760 great name. He could like that name could mean a 1:18:56.800 --> 1:18:57.479 lot of different things. 1:18:57.880 --> 1:19:01.240 I'm I've been currently thirty five out of have a 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:04.479 first grader. So my daughter's into this huge rhyming, so 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:05.479 Bush Push. 1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:09.320 Yeah, yeah, you're teaching her. It's good. Eight seven five Yeah, man, 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.560 that's a big it's a big game. Eight seven. I 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:14.479 just think the gameplay was just overrated. People think it's 1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:17.000 like like the Texas game. I'd give that a ten 1:19:17.160 --> 1:19:17.519 or nine. 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:20.599 But that so with eight point seventy five in our 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:23.680 in our so far, in our totals, it ties with 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:28.560 the nineteen ninety nine Women's World Cup final USA versus China's. 1:19:28.880 --> 1:19:29.840 Is that not higher? 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:34.040 You're you're you're you're tapping a nerve here. Our scoring 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:36.200 system is fucking bullshit and it needs to be completely 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:37.040 Look at number one. 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:40.760 Way Mavericks Mavericks, Yeah, yeah, because. 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:42.800 Cube Market came here and just gave everything ten. 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:45.160 There's a lot. You had someone come in for each 1:19:45.200 --> 1:19:48.760 one of these. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. Yeah. Yeah, so 1:19:48.880 --> 1:19:52.599 this game is a wheelchair game. What a joke, Paul Pierce? 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:54.280 I mean, did he sho his pants? Did he not? 1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:56.240 I mean, it's right up there with did he come in? 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:59.200 We zoomed him in? He zoomed him in. That was 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:00.000 probably pretty funny. 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:03.479 Yeah he was. He was smoking Huka the whole time 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:05.400 in his backyard with pool. 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:07.479 You guys got some good It's pretty It's a pretty 1:20:07.520 --> 1:20:10.240 diverse list here though. Yeah, so we got some stuff. Yeah, 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:12.400 this is this is right up there with it man. 1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:16.799 Yeah, so this game is nestled in ties with Women's 1:20:16.800 --> 1:20:20.559 World Cup, just below the Ironman, Matchean Michael's and bred 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:24.040 Haart ridiculous, and just above the twenty to three Super 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:25.000 Bowl Patriots Falcons. 1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:28.599 Can we talk about your catch? It was a lucky catch, yeah, 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:30.840 but it was fucking awesome. I was watching that ship. 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:33.360 I was like, you knew, did you know? Did you 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:38.519 think you knew? You always know? He was this much dude? Yeah, 1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:40.879 but I was under it felt he felt that you felt. 1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:44.160 You know, you you know, just like in Kansas City 1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:46.880 to get there or that was the next one. Remember 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:49.960 were the punt that almost touched me? And touch me either, 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:53.160 But that catch was, dude, that was the catch. It 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:54.840 was a good catch, but it was it was a 1:20:54.920 --> 1:20:56.240 lucky catch, dude. 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:58.559 Yeah, like my throw fourth and nine was I mean, dude, 1:20:58.640 --> 1:20:59.960 one inch the other way. It's incomplete. 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:02.080 Yeah, but it's a product of you making that throw 1:21:02.280 --> 1:21:05.200 so many times. Yeah, that catches, just that bounce you 1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:05.519 just read. 1:21:05.640 --> 1:21:06.519 Yeah, that was a product. 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:08.840 I used to do these reaction drills every day. 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:12.000 Did you get a truck? No, that was the first 1:21:12.080 --> 1:21:14.800 year they didn't give. Did you go to Disney World? Yeah? 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:18.519 That cool. Disney World twice. It was awesome against Seahawks 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:20.439 and then for this one, and then you get you 1:21:20.520 --> 1:21:22.680 get a nice little bonus for Super Bowl MVP. Huh. 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:25.120 I think you get like fifty grand really thing crazy. 1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:26.320 I don't give you ship. 1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:28.040 That's like what you get for going to the Super Bowl. 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:31.240 You get the bonus if you win the whole Super Bowl. 1:21:31.280 --> 1:21:33.080 When oh, you get a hundred or something, you get 1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:35.559 a total because you went up every every game. Yeah, 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:37.599 I could get a total of like two ten or something, 1:21:37.720 --> 1:21:39.280 which is a lot of money. Don't get me wrong 1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:41.639 to a lot of people. But if you think about 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:45.479 your salary, what you're you get paid weekly for regular season, 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:46.120 you're you're. 1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:48.160 Yeah, it's a pay cut. But I love because the 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:50.559 year we went to Super Bowl, it was awesome, man, 1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:53.479 because the whole you know, like the practice squad, everybody 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:55.080 got the same check, which is cool. You know, so 1:21:55.200 --> 1:21:57.920 those guys made one hundred grand, you know, Yeah that 1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:00.360 was cool. Man. Did we miss need thing? You got 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:04.240 anything to plug what we got? Good? Dude, it's fucking 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:05.760 I'm just happy to be here with you. Man, I'm 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:07.559 happy you're here too. You got come more. We should 1:22:07.600 --> 1:22:09.320 we should talk. Like the last time I saw you 1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:12.720 were just chawing with the wife beater on and Can. Yeah, 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:14.680 we did go to Can with the white beater on. 1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:19.400 It's a wife pleaser. I'll ever forget that, dude. Or 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:22.000 were you the hotel you're the hotel lobby? Did he 1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:24.960 tell you the story? We're in France this summer and 1:22:25.640 --> 1:22:27.799 we rode out together and all that, and I'm walking 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:30.400 and it's like this five star and he's with all 1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:33.320 his boys and he is just rocking a lipper with 1:22:33.479 --> 1:22:36.519 a wife beater and is whatever whatever, you don't know, 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:38.560 brown pants or whatever. And I'm just like, only you 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:40.920 would rock that ship right here and look good to you? 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.639 Look good? You look like you could still play. See 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:46.200 what are you run? What are you running right now? 1:22:46.600 --> 1:22:52.160 Not fast? What did you do? What were you? What 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.240 were you like a four or five? Yeah? I mean 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:56.000 I mean you were, I mean you were, you were quick, 1:22:56.080 --> 1:22:59.479 and now you were it was more explosive. Yeah, explosive my. 1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:02.120 Best, Like when I ran it was four four eight, 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:04.040 but they did give you to call you a four 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:04.599 or five guy. 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:09.240 Yeah, you three cone though, was probably fastest eight nine. Yeah, 1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:13.040 that was my stuff. But you know, I think the 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:15.120 three cone, I mean, what are we doing? That's I 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:17.400 don't know, that's what they you know, I know, I'm 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:21.240 just saying, like who cares? Yeah, what receivers came out 1:23:21.520 --> 1:23:24.800 when you came out? Oh, grab tree? Grab tree? 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:27.320 He was said, was on the Rookie Symposium bus. 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:30.000 Really he had like five phones and like six chains 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.400 and he so that was so he was top five, 1:23:32.680 --> 1:23:34.280 Yeah he was. He was up there no one else 1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:37.200 in that year. That's all I remember. Yeah, I mean 1:23:37.240 --> 1:23:40.840 I got a look, I mean he had. He was good. 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:43.679 Who was it to leave that pulled his chain off? Yeah? 1:23:43.680 --> 1:23:45.200 I think so that was so tight. 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:46.600 I love that. 1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:51.400 Darius Hayward bay d HB. Yeah, Jeremy Macklin. 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:55.760 Macklin Percy was a beast. Percy was there too. I 1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:58.560 forgot Urban talks about Percy like he was. 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.120 Everyone that played with him he was the best football Yeah. 1:24:01.200 --> 1:24:04.639 They played Urban like because when we had Reggie, Urban 1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:06.960 always said like that was my Reggie. Like he was 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:09.640 just he was a great football player's dog. Dude. He 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:13.120 just had a lot of issues, but explosive, tough at 1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:15.679 ship line, just could do anything. 1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:20.400 Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace, there was a lot of them. 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:22.920 I remember you had the best career. All of them 1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:26.720 were you were you drafted, but seventh, seventh, seventh as 1:24:26.720 --> 1:24:29.160 a quarterback. It's a crazy story. Man. We're gonna have 1:24:29.320 --> 1:24:31.960 to have you come back on. I appreciate you, bro, Dude, 1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:35.760 you're kicking me out already. I'm just gonna start. Let's 1:24:35.760 --> 1:24:37.040 just go. I want to just come back on and 1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:39.400 just talk life with you, dude. Just talk. We could 1:24:39.439 --> 1:24:41.920 talk like we could talk. We could talk to Texas 1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:44.679 game if you want, if you get McConaughey. Dude, I'm coming. 1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:46.400 You heard it here, folks. 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:49.519 So we're gonna clip this and use you to get 1:24:49.600 --> 1:24:51.880 McConaughey to come on. Magic. 1:24:52.160 --> 1:24:55.840 We should get you know, you should get Farrell McConaughey, me, 1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:58.040 Vince Faraholl McConaughey on the couch. 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:01.519 That would be would just they would do it, they would, 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:03.600 they would do it for sure. I'll just throw a 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:07.200 fucking I feel like they just did something they didn't do. 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:10.479 Games with names, though, by games with names. 1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:13.360 Make it soop talg on soon though, huh Snoop dog. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:17.920 Soon gas Man, he's the best. 1:25:18.240 --> 1:25:20.479 Anytime he used to come out to Boss, he had 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:24.280 like a residency in Boston, and so anytime you would 1:25:24.320 --> 1:25:26.360 come and go, hey, I get a text from one 1:25:26.400 --> 1:25:26.960 of his guys. 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:28.559 I think it's white keV. 1:25:30.880 --> 1:25:35.000 And uh, he goes hey nephew, Hey, nephew, can I 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:37.080 use your spot before I go have to go out. 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:41.320 I was like, yeah, hell Brownstone in Boston, we have 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:45.240 the whole gang there. You getting my body worked on. 1:25:45.400 --> 1:25:51.920 We got a game and Snoop he's but we'll get 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:54.120 you next time. That's good man, Thanks for having men. 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:55.879 That was a crazy episode. 1:25:56.360 --> 1:25:58.120 Glad. I wouldn't hear for the interview because I'm had 1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:00.720 to dove across his table. And Gradi, you. 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:03.080 Have been the dude after the judge. I would have 1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:05.679 been the guy after Brian Dawkans the judge. I don't 1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:07.720 know when this came out. You guys have seen the meme. 1:26:08.320 --> 1:26:12.120 Bro That is top five for me most painful sports loss. 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:14.479 I still remember I was sitting at the bar of 1:26:14.520 --> 1:26:17.200 a Brick's Pizza with my dad watching on the little 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.439 TV above the bar, like just pound in the bar, 1:26:19.600 --> 1:26:20.960 like you push them out. 1:26:22.000 --> 1:26:22.320 Charlie. 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.960 I wanted Charlie to get that win man, Old Charlie, 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:28.320 Old Charlie man Man him and Pete Carroll wearing the 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:31.120 big pleated khakis. That was a great era, my god, 1:26:31.520 --> 1:26:33.040 how like because he wore. 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:35.040 The pants like how the old people are actually on 1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:37.680 their waist right, Like what is that number there? 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:40.760 Like a sixty's it's gotta be up there. 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:42.479 That was a lot of Khaki material, but. 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:44.600 Like a lot of I don't know what. 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:46.160 I don't want to know what was going on there. 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.080 But I love Charlie. That's called the dick do belly. 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:51.680 So when your belly go further than your dick do. 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:54.840 Yeo oh man. 1:26:55.640 --> 1:26:58.600 The real takeaway from this is that we have to 1:26:58.720 --> 1:27:02.880 do obviously the techs usc national. I know, we've already 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:05.080 got Reggie on, We've got matt On. We just got 1:27:05.200 --> 1:27:08.360 to get either Vince or Matthew. Once we get one 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:11.000 of those dudes in the studio, Reggie or matt will 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:13.280 be here in a second. And that's gonna be What 1:27:13.400 --> 1:27:15.200 about coming, It's coming. We got to work on it, 1:27:15.280 --> 1:27:15.920 but it's coming. 1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:20.160 That's hopefully coming. But what about all the other names 1:27:20.200 --> 1:27:25.160 that were just it was like a pro grown out there, Clay, Matthews, 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:29.720 Linda why he loved Lindell. Lindell was was an he 1:27:29.800 --> 1:27:30.840 had a little uh he. 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:32.600 Had like like I mean we looked at it like 1:27:32.640 --> 1:27:33.639 twenty something touchdown. 1:27:33.720 --> 1:27:33.920 Yeah. 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:36.360 He was just straight thunder and you know what, he 1:27:36.400 --> 1:27:38.760 had an okay career with the Titans. No, he was 1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:41.799 a little bit yeah. I mean Norm Chow was the OC. 1:27:41.760 --> 1:27:43.559 Right, Yeah, shout out Norm Chow. 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:46.360 Oh, let's get to the let's get to these fan questions. 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:47.799 Let's get to these fan questions. 1:27:48.560 --> 1:27:52.519 Jo, my name is Mason Whiteley. I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio, 1:27:52.960 --> 1:27:55.400 and uh, I just had a quick question for you. 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:59.320 Me and my best friend roommate are in a pre 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:04.120 over the last month. Who's better Darrel Revis or pac 1:28:04.200 --> 1:28:04.840 Man Jones? 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:09.120 All right, tex Yo, I love pack, I love pac Man. 1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:14.400 Unbelievable football player played for a long time. Unbelievable punt 1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:22.880 returner West Virginia, West Virginia. Darrell res is generational, great. 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:25.719 Revis island baby that can make it ring though. 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:31.400 Dude, I've kicked him. Hey, make it right. We used 1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:34.000 to have all these Bengal formations and stuff. 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:35.599 I've told this story. 1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:38.280 We always remembered if the F would all the way 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:40.479 be all the way in the three by one, and 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:42.000 we always remembered it by. 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:45.080 You know, he he's in jail. So Bengal, the F 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:45.760 is in jail. 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:46.880 I forgot about it. I don't know. 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:49.920 I brought that with pac Man, bro, but also to 1:28:49.960 --> 1:28:50.320 pac Man. 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.360 He was early on hating Adele right there. He's early 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:54.960 beef on that right now, we all do. 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:58.080 But like he was, pac Man just ran four Like 1:28:58.240 --> 1:29:00.000 right now, if if you put him on a field, 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:01.280 pac Man's better than Durow. 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:05.400 I've seen Dureau my eating good. He's living. 1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:09.160 Pac Man just ran four five geez bro he ran 1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:11.120 four or five on something on the internet, didn't he. 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:13.840 I gotta look that up fast man, and we we 1:29:14.080 --> 1:29:17.760 pack got it. We used to get into scuffles revis Yeah, 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:19.280 no he was. He was a blanket man. 1:29:19.360 --> 1:29:20.599 Whole side of the field is taken away. 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:23.080 Yeah, you just says you take him all day. I 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:25.120 also liked the I also liked the idea of like 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:27.599 different players though, yes, different players. 1:29:27.720 --> 1:29:29.880 Interesting debate. I was going to say, this is very 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:31.320 insightful into this relationship. 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:33.639 But if you're going straight corner right. 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:37.800 A little wrinkle here. This is a backyard brawl. Oh, 1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:39.519 West Virginia Pittsburgh. 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:41.080 Wow, it gets deeper. 1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:45.120 I like these joy No, but they're the colleges are 1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:45.920 a big rivalry. 1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:47.720 I like, that's what you got to take from this. 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:51.800 That goddamn conference got some some ballplayers'. 1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:52.000 Biggi's ball players. 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:55.599 Maybe that was Yeah, it was close. 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:59.000 I like imagining these guys like ones making his pop 1:29:59.080 --> 1:29:59.320 tart in. 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:01.960 The morning, pack mans eight pack too. He showed it 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:03.160 to me, and when I went and did all the 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:05.000 smoke or something, I didn want to those you know 1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:05.880 what I do? Which one? 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:11.120 Uh it was with with the marsh I'm a yeah, yeah, 1:30:11.479 --> 1:30:13.599 I like imagining these guys like making making their pop 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:14.920 tarts in the morning. The other guy comes out of 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:18.040 the room, He's like, Darrell Reeves is better because it 1:30:18.240 --> 1:30:18.600 just goes on. 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:19.200 And I'm like, I. 1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:23.799 Have to suspect that the roommate went to West Virginia 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:26.240 or is from West Virginia or from Cincinnati, because that's 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:28.559 the only way this curious argument. 1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.160 All right, next one, Thanks Mason for the question. 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:37.200 Yes, I need a little positivity for the Atlanta top 1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:42.479 and because there ain't been done twenty eight three, can 1:30:42.520 --> 1:30:43.840 you give me a little advice here? 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:45.960 I'd appreciate it, buddy. 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:51.000 Yeah, but here's my advice. You go down to write aid, 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:54.920 you get a bottle of a leave, you take to 1:30:55.040 --> 1:30:58.080 a leave, then you go take a walk and just 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:01.840 start thinking because it ain't changing any time soon. Okay, 1:31:01.880 --> 1:31:04.760 there's no prescription for this. You know, as a Patriots 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:07.760 fan right now, I'm going through the same thing. These 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:10.680 are things you have to go through when you are 1:31:10.720 --> 1:31:14.120 a fan of an NFL team that doesn't have a quarterback. So, buddy, 1:31:15.280 --> 1:31:17.960 placebo effect it. Go get a couple leave, won't kill you. 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:19.800 Maybe give you an ulcer if you take too many, 1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:22.519 but take those two a leave, go take a walk, 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:26.599 and just don't even think about it because it ain't 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:27.519 changing anytime soon. 1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:31.360 And you know, watch Georgia Games and you got Georgia Games. 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:34.000 Got Kirby Man, Yeah, Urby'll get you buy on Saturdays. 1:31:34.040 --> 1:31:36.400 Desmond'll let you down on Sundays. But hey, he'd be good. 1:31:37.080 --> 1:31:39.040 I feel bad for my guy. Desmond's all right. 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:40.880 That's another question, Julian. 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:43.679 I was wondering, are you ever gonna make any more 1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:48.000 Smoothie Time videos? You know, whether it's with Sugar Shane 1:31:48.120 --> 1:31:51.120 or maybe you want to get Ryan Allen on the show. 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:54.040 You know, Smoothie Time was great, but I think Burger 1:31:54.160 --> 1:31:57.679 Time was pretty good too. I mean, getting John Bones 1:31:57.720 --> 1:32:03.720 showns again, that would be amazing, especially recent circumstances. 1:32:04.200 --> 1:32:09.000 Anyway, Yeah, this we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do something. 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:11.120 The people are asking, the streets are talking. 1:32:11.520 --> 1:32:15.519 You know, old Burger Time, Smoothie Time, Sugar Shade is Everen. 1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:17.960 I was just gonna en nickname. 1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:18.760 I don't know, but I. 1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:23.719 I like it. I like it. Ryan Allen, I actually 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:24.559 have to send him. 1:32:25.120 --> 1:32:27.320 I don't know why. I think I may have take 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:31.320 taken his locker because I have like all his baby pictures. 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:34.800 I got a pair of flip flops that are like 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:36.920 I think they say, Ryan Allen, I got a bunch 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:40.719 of his ship. Ryan. I'm gonna send you a care package. 1:32:41.160 --> 1:32:43.080 I'm talking to you a minute now. You've got a 1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:48.720 couple of kids like it, Bones Jones right now, We're 1:32:48.760 --> 1:32:49.560 just gonna keep that in it. 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.120 We'll leave it there. I think from the practical standpoint, 1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:56.240 the way we get smoothie time, you know, rebooted is 1:32:57.040 --> 1:33:00.840 you know, where's athletic Greens, Where's where's to mix, Where's 1:33:00.880 --> 1:33:04.600 we're some brands, you know, we're we're all nah f. 1:33:04.680 --> 1:33:09.439 That man, f that the brands. Just do it for 1:33:10.360 --> 1:33:12.120 maybe for the integrity of the art. 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:15.040 Dog, for all the smoothie makers out there to do 1:33:15.240 --> 1:33:15.559 for all. 1:33:15.439 --> 1:33:19.479 Those smoothie makers and those burger fiends. Just remember this 1:33:19.640 --> 1:33:24.880 old burger craze, everyone grating burgers, doing burgers, smash doing 1:33:24.960 --> 1:33:28.400 that back when you're popping your pimples watching All Home magazine. 1:33:28.880 --> 1:33:30.240 You never even heard of a smash. 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:32.800 You know what we should do. Here's an idea for 1:33:32.920 --> 1:33:34.880 April fools. Find out what day that is. 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:36.559 We just Reskin, what day? 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:40.560 What day of the weekend? Is what day of the 1:33:40.600 --> 1:33:41.080 week it is? 1:33:41.280 --> 1:33:41.400 Right? 1:33:41.640 --> 1:33:44.240 If it's close enough to tuesdays. Maybe we were skinning 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:47.080 games with names for a day and we do a 1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:50.040 Burger Time version of games with names Monday before. 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:52.519 No, dude, I was skinting to try, all right. Next question, 1:33:52.720 --> 1:33:55.520 Next question, Yo, Julian. 1:33:55.200 --> 1:33:57.120 This is Logan from New Jersey. 1:33:57.640 --> 1:33:59.479 If you're the Patriots. 1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:02.160 Manager, what are you doing with this top five pick? 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:03.360 Are you taking a quarterback? 1:34:03.400 --> 1:34:04.839 Are you taking off a lineman? 1:34:05.200 --> 1:34:06.920 Or you're taking a wide receiver? 1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:07.920 What are you doing? 1:34:08.680 --> 1:34:13.840 Patriot manager? So I'm gonna probably I'm gonna get what's 1:34:13.880 --> 1:34:17.360 his name, Christian Gonzalez. I'm gonna have him lead off. 1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:18.600 I'm gonna have. 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:25.240 I mean, who's clean, Who's who's clean up? 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:27.439 Who's clean up? It's gotta be Jude. 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:28.560 I was gonna say, you got Jude one in the 1:34:28.600 --> 1:34:29.200 cleanup spot. 1:34:29.320 --> 1:34:35.439 Jude gotta go quarterback. You gotta you have no choice. 1:34:36.120 --> 1:34:39.439 Top five, gotta we gotta we gotta get a spark, 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.599 gotta do quarterback. This is quarterback League. 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:44.519 Jaydon Daniels, I. 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:48.120 Don't know that, Like I'm a guy like that, you know, 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:49.800 there's there's a lot of guys that they say it's 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:52.559 a rich quarterback draft. I mean they say that all 1:34:52.600 --> 1:34:52.920 the time. 1:34:53.000 --> 1:34:57.720 But JJ McCarthy, Michigan, I don't like any of them. 1:34:57.840 --> 1:34:59.479 You don't like any of them, Jack, I like, I 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:02.160 like l mints of them, but I don't Cayleb Williams 1:35:02.160 --> 1:35:04.080 doesn't want to play in New England and he's a baby. 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:09.839 Pannix hurt a million times, Drake May, Jade and Daniels. 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:12.120 Maybe maybe which one is that? 1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:12.840 This l s U? 1:35:13.920 --> 1:35:16.880 Yeah, yeah, it's got the skill sets, but maybe I 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:19.640 don't know. I like Drake May. I just feel like 1:35:19.680 --> 1:35:21.400 he's got that Josh Allen in him. 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:23.599 He's got a little bit of that Trubisky in him. 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:30.400 Or Sam How It's gonna be funny watching all these 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:34.000 guys leave. They're gonna be all going top ten. Yeah, 1:35:34.479 --> 1:35:37.280 that's how the hype goes. Hold on, let's do one. 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:40.559 Let's do two quick ones, rock Share, let's wrap these 1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:42.040 up one more here. 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:45.559 Alright, Calling in from North Palm Beach, Florida. 1:35:45.800 --> 1:35:52.760 My question is if Vince set on Jack McCarthy, how 1:35:52.920 --> 1:35:55.160 long or how many seconds would he stay alive? 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:58.640 Love, that's my boy, ed. 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:00.400 Brother. 1:36:00.439 --> 1:36:03.879 I'm tapping out so fast. I am tapping out and undertake. 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:06.160 It's not about tap out. It's not up to you. 1:36:06.760 --> 1:36:07.280 Oh true. 1:36:08.760 --> 1:36:11.360 I'm not saying this like how is he sitting on him? 1:36:11.760 --> 1:36:16.920 I'm thinking, like big raki, I think maybe like two 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:20.400 minutes you might be done minutes long. I think I'm 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:20.880 pulling for you. 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:27.559 I just think, I think, I just I. 1:36:27.680 --> 1:36:30.639 Just pictured the scene in Billy Madison where Principal Anderson 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:32.680 was when he was playing the Revolting Blob and he's 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:34.280 like he was supposed to pinch my leg if he 1:36:34.360 --> 1:36:36.880 was running short of air when he killed that guy 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:37.240 in the ring. 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:41.639 I thought, you know what you should do. I think 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:44.960 of it as you're like, uh, terminator to the liquid guy. 1:36:45.000 --> 1:36:46.280 You just kind of figure away. 1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:53.720 Yeah. Those were fun. Those were fun. Well what an episode. 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:57.640 Thanks him, Old Maddie Matt Lioner for coming on. I 1:36:57.680 --> 1:37:00.719 can't wait to see his son. Son's a stud beast 1:37:01.080 --> 1:37:04.400 and he's like seven feet two. 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