Speaker 1: Will ferrell Snoop Dogg at practices, I would have signed instantly, Dude.
Speaker 2: Kobe and Shack had just got off their three p
Speaker 2: I think Shack had bounced. The daughters weren't great, the
Speaker 2: Kings weren't great. Like it was our town.
Speaker 1: Today, we're looking at the infamous Bush Push two thousand
Speaker 1: and five USC versus Notre Dame, one of the oldest.
Speaker 2: College football rivalries.
Speaker 1: We had a two thousand and four Heisman Award winner
Speaker 1: QB for the Cardinals, Texas and Raiders, Matthew steven Liner.
Speaker 2: The aura that you guys had as a college football team,
Speaker 2: the history of the titles, the Heisman's, the games. I
Speaker 2: sat there and I thought you guys were pro. That
Speaker 2: was the life we had, Like we would go anywhere.
Speaker 2: We were treated like celebrities. We could get into any club.
Speaker 2: At eighteen, it was wild, Dude. Right when I got
Speaker 2: off the bus, I'm like, this is gonna be about it,
Speaker 2: And they come out in the green jerseys and we're lying,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just hate under Damn dude, I
Speaker 2: still hate Unre Dame. The next play is when I scrambled,
Speaker 2: I hang on bumble. The next thing I know is
Speaker 2: their storm in the field, and I'm just like, what's
Speaker 2: just happening? I just lost the game? So I come
Speaker 2: in and I swear to god, dude, it was the
Speaker 2: loudest I ever been. I couldn't hear myself talk. I'm
Speaker 2: getting a goosebumps just thinking about Liner.
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Speaker 1: today's episode, we are talking the Bush Push two thousand
Speaker 1: and five USZ versus Notre Dame with Matthew Lionert the
Speaker 1: Lefty Heisman Win.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. As a Domers fan, I'm still mad
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Speaker 1: Resorts All right, guys, let's go though. October fifteenth, two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, Notre Dame Stadium, South ben Indiana.
Speaker 2: Down thirty one to twenty eight with seven seconds left
Speaker 2: on the clock. Bat linerd steps to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Is he gonna sneak it? Oh my god? What's Reggie?
Speaker 2: This is the bush Monday, bro, Let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 2: This is awesome, dude.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names presented by win Bet. Today
Speaker 1: we have a very very special, very special guest.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so good to be here. It's it's
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: We got a two thousand and four Heisman Award winner.
Speaker 1: It's our third Heisman guy.
Speaker 2: We had Ricky Williams, Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: We had a first team All American College Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer QB for the Cardinals, Texas and Raiders. Host of
Speaker 1: Big Noon Kickoff on Fox. I watch it every Saturday.
Speaker 1: We have Matthew steven Matthew Stevenler.
Speaker 2: What's up man? What's up man?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm freaking pumped to be here, dude, are you yeah? Good?
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, I just saw Bruce Willis
Speaker 2: over there on the walls. Maybe it's a chopper.
Speaker 1: Huh, who's motorcycles this?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a chopper. That's a great, that's a great.
Speaker 2: It's dead.
Speaker 1: What are you up to besides tiktoking right now? I
Speaker 1: see you on TikTok. I mean you are committed, dude.
Speaker 1: You're in it.
Speaker 2: Daily content.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: I was told I need to push out daily content.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you sure? And they're like, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the football content right now on the
Speaker 2: road doing all that stuff. Yeah. It's a lot, but
Speaker 2: it's fun, it's working, it's it's it's paying off, it's
Speaker 2: it's building a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like the Manhattan Dad stuff. Yeah, the manhatt coaching stuff,
Speaker 1: like this is the coach stuff, the.
Speaker 2: Big the starter. I did a Manhattan Beach starter pack,
Speaker 2: so you're familiar with the South Bay Manhattan Beach. I
Speaker 2: did a Manhattan Beach starter pack, and that one kind
Speaker 2: of like catapults me up in the South Bay because
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, man, like we're retired. I'm retired.
Speaker 2: I walk around there. No one really cares. It's great.
Speaker 2: It's a great place. But like I got stopped more
Speaker 2: for that the Manhattan Beach Dad's Thing starter pack than
Speaker 2: anything else I've ever done. It was like, oh the
Speaker 2: mahabe it was and from Why Mom's Divorcees Dads, it
Speaker 2: was hilarious. Was it one of them to have an
Speaker 2: suv with tinted windows with them all the way down?
Speaker 2: Was that? It was? Is that a part of that one?
Speaker 2: It was a golf cart? You have a golf have
Speaker 2: a golf cart? Uh? You got the aviator nation everyone,
Speaker 2: the creation, the juices that you're you know, you spend
Speaker 2: thirty dollars for smoothie. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all good man.
Speaker 1: So today we're looking at the infamous Yeah, Bush Push
Speaker 1: two thousand and five USC versus Notre Dame. Huge rivalry,
Speaker 1: huge drivery. I'm wearing the hat.
Speaker 2: I love it. I saw the content you did. You
Speaker 2: guys went out there.
Speaker 1: You and Brady Quinn walked through the bush. The Bush
Speaker 1: Push had.
Speaker 2: A lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You broke into the locker room, you did break an
Speaker 1: alarm went off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did awesome.
Speaker 1: So what does this game mean? Is this like your guys'
Speaker 1: biggest game sc Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, it's it's a it's an it's
Speaker 2: a different kind of rivalry game because you have a
Speaker 2: lot of like UCLA is our rival, but I mean
Speaker 2: it really wasn't a rival when I was there, But
Speaker 2: that's the crosstown rival in the battle for La Notre
Speaker 2: Dame is so much bigger. It's historic. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's not Michigan Ohio state, but it's an historic rivalry.
Speaker 2: And I wish I knew how it started, but it
Speaker 2: was pretty fascinated how it all started. I think it
Speaker 2: started between like the President's wife and someone else at
Speaker 2: the time, like thought the two should play or something,
Speaker 2: and like that's how it kicked off. But like the
Speaker 2: history of the titles, the Heisman's, the games, some of
Speaker 2: the performances, like it's just very unique. And that was
Speaker 2: my first time back since the Bush Bush game, so
Speaker 2: eighteen years. Obviously you're playing, you know, I don't go.
Speaker 2: I didn't never went to the game. And then my
Speaker 2: job now we hadn't covered a game at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: So it was really it was really cool, man like.
Speaker 2: It was. It was cool to go back. I'd gone,
Speaker 2: I played there twice, but to walk the field with
Speaker 2: Brady to kind of relive this game, it was wild,
Speaker 2: man like. It was cool. It was It was cool
Speaker 2: to be back. A lot of changes or a lot
Speaker 2: of changes though, so it's tourf now, which sucks. It
Speaker 2: used to be it was long grass in your game.
Speaker 1: Was watching they hear it got hocked because of that
Speaker 1: long char.
Speaker 2: Was like, you know, Jared was like a four to
Speaker 2: seven guy. He couldn't. Well, they grew that out for Reggie,
Speaker 2: they grew dude. They we actually had like I think
Speaker 2: we had one of our kids towards a cl because
Speaker 2: the grass was along and one of their alignment toward
Speaker 2: their a cl. We were pissed. Were like, dude, the
Speaker 2: grass was like six or seven inches off the ground,
Speaker 2: and it was all just to try and slow down
Speaker 2: our offense. And obviously, I mean it worked at times,
Speaker 2: but Reggie went off that game still, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you play like that's what
Speaker 1: the Bears always did. Yeah, the Bear, Yeah, they keep
Speaker 1: that long grass. I'm I miss grass.
Speaker 2: Though, man. Yeah. So it's so that part was different,
Speaker 2: and you know, just to smell of grass and just
Speaker 2: like you're walking on it, it just feels different. Uh.
Speaker 2: So that was a little different. And then they added
Speaker 2: they just renovated the stadium, but it still had the
Speaker 2: same field. It's kind of like the I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've been to the Coliseum, but the USC's coliseum.
Speaker 2: They condensed and so they took out like twenty thousand seats,
Speaker 2: but they still have grass. It still has the same
Speaker 2: feel of the Bowl. But tell me what, man, you
Speaker 2: touchdown Jesus the history in that place. It was good
Speaker 2: to be back. It was good to be back. That's
Speaker 2: some good performances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, a man with one point five national championships.
Speaker 2: Beat one point five? What are you talking about? But
Speaker 2: didn't you guys have you guys kind of co We
Speaker 2: split one, but we got screwed. I know.
Speaker 1: You know what the crazy thing is, we're kind of
Speaker 1: in that same age group. And I was in JUCO
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: I think when you guys were were you at Kent State?
Speaker 1: I went to Kent State the next year six oh six.
Speaker 1: It was my first year at Kent State, and I
Speaker 1: remember watching you guys in like the aura that you
Speaker 1: guys had as a college football team. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a college football team. I sat there and I thought
Speaker 1: you guys were pros. And I was in the same
Speaker 1: age as you guys. I was like these guys.
Speaker 2: Dude, it was it was why so like at that
Speaker 2: time we got to remember too. So my first year
Speaker 2: was Pete's first year. We were awful. We were six
Speaker 2: and six, but you just felt it was gonna be different.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's still trucking along now, like fucking eighty
Speaker 2: years old, but he's still growing. But like, you just
Speaker 2: felt it was different. The staff was great. We had
Speaker 2: Carson obviously, who was great. The next year it just flipped.
Speaker 2: It was one year and we were we beat Iowa
Speaker 2: and the Orange Bowl, and then the next year was
Speaker 2: when I won the starting job. But to your point,
Speaker 2: it was like it was we always talk about this.
Speaker 2: There was no football then. Uh, Kobe and Shaq had
Speaker 2: just got off their three p I think Shaq had bounced.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers weren't great, the Kings weren't great. Like it
Speaker 2: was our town, like like La was our town. And
Speaker 2: Pete loved it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He enraged. Oh dude, he was like, why wouldn't I
Speaker 2: use this as my recruiting tool. It's this is our backyard,
Speaker 2: Hollywood entertainment, celebrity, the lifestyle, like let's go, come, come, come,
Speaker 2: I'm joining this ride with us, and he didn't it.
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell Snoop Dogg at practices. I would have signed instantly.
Speaker 2: Dude, Snoop is the best man. Snoop I threw passes
Speaker 2: this yeah, one on ones, He's out there running. He
Speaker 2: loved that. Dude we had. I'll tell you this story
Speaker 2: is one of the is one of my best stories,
Speaker 2: and so I think it was. It was right after
Speaker 2: I won the Heisman my junior year and I came
Speaker 2: back and in that timeframe the game. Remember the Rapper
Speaker 2: of the game. So he was a big a S fan.
Speaker 2: He's from uh I think he's from Compton, and he
Speaker 2: was a big reggie. He would come to the sideline
Speaker 2: come of the games. He asked me to be in
Speaker 2: his music video. It was Dreams. So it was like
Speaker 2: Serena Williams. There's a couple other athletes in there, and
Speaker 2: I was like, shoot, okay, let's do it. So I
Speaker 2: took Lindell White, I took my boy b Hans, who
Speaker 2: who's a backup quarterback, and we went over on the
Speaker 2: Sony lot and I'm walking in and I'm caring this
Speaker 2: big ass Heisman. I'm in like a gray hoodie and jeans,
Speaker 2: and we go and I see doctor Dre right when
Speaker 2: I'm walking in again worked twenty one years old. Dre's
Speaker 2: like hitting us up. And then we go into his, uh,
Speaker 2: his trailer, and it's like eight of his dudes in
Speaker 2: his trailer. You could imagine what that thing smelled like.
Speaker 2: But we're in there. I put the heisman on there
Speaker 2: and this dude is like heisman this, that, and I'm
Speaker 2: just sitting there with my boys. Lindell's probably lighting one up,
Speaker 2: you know, We're just sitting there do telling stories. It
Speaker 2: was the coolest thing and so the best part about it.
Speaker 2: We then shoot the music video and the funniest thing
Speaker 2: is I'm watching like this guy do a music video.
Speaker 2: It was cool and dreams like was one of his
Speaker 2: hits back then, and I'm in it and I'm like
Speaker 2: walking out of the fog with the heisman, and long
Speaker 2: story short, I never I didn't make the cut. I
Speaker 2: didn't make the cut of the video. He didn't put
Speaker 2: me in it. I was like, O game. I was
Speaker 2: here for like six hours. But it was the coolest day. Man.
Speaker 2: So that, Like, dude, that was the type of stuff
Speaker 2: we got to do. Man Like it was. It was nuts.
Speaker 1: So he grew up in Santa Anna, which is Orange County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not right I grew I didn't grow I
Speaker 2: grew up very uh. I mean I grew up in
Speaker 2: like right on the border of Santa Ana, Costa Mace.
Speaker 2: I grew up right by Modern Day in my high school,
Speaker 2: super just working middle class. My parents both worked full
Speaker 2: time jobs. You know, we didn't have a lot of money,
Speaker 2: but we you know, we went to My mom wanted
Speaker 2: to get us into private school. That was like she
Speaker 2: wanted us get us out of that district. So my
Speaker 2: brother went to Modern Day, which was five minutes away.
Speaker 2: He was five years older. And then they worked hard
Speaker 2: to get us there and that was that was it.
Speaker 2: Who was your who's your college team? Growing up Ucla?
Speaker 2: The Cade McNown era, Dude Cave McNown, JJ Stokes, Danny
Speaker 2: Farmer yeah, uh, Deshaunvoster and Deshaun Boss was a couple
Speaker 2: of years old. I mean he was a stud I
Speaker 2: loved cade McNown because he was a lefty and they
Speaker 2: were really good. So like, I got recruited heavily to UCLA.
Speaker 2: But when I went there, it's just like it was
Speaker 2: it was just a different feel man. And I got
Speaker 2: nothing against Ucla, I really don't, but it was just
Speaker 2: it was like Ucla, It's just like this place kind
Speaker 2: of sucks. It just felt boring, like it just felt boring,
Speaker 2: there's no energy. And then I was getting recruited by
Speaker 2: Paul Hackett. Don't know if you ever played for Paul
Speaker 2: or but it was Paul and Hugh Jackson when they
Speaker 2: were at s C. And even that energy was better,
Speaker 2: even though they were terrible. But Pete brought in, and
Speaker 2: Pete was with Sarkisian and Kiffin and this staff was loaded,
Speaker 2: and it just felt right even though we weren't good.
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is where I want to be.
Speaker 2: So Usilla was my team. But s see, it just
Speaker 2: it felt it felt uh it was I mean, it
Speaker 2: was the right decision.
Speaker 5: Geez.
Speaker 2: So let's get back to modern day. Modern day. You
Speaker 2: guys have three Heisman trophies. The only high school in
Speaker 2: America we have three with three and the third he's old.
Speaker 2: John Hewart, Yeah, John Hewart, John Hewart. Where do you
Speaker 2: go to school modern day? No college? Notre Dame. I think,
Speaker 2: are you getting what are you talking? No, dude, that's bad.
Speaker 2: That's a bad TV col Bran and rest in peace.
Speaker 2: I know it's my boy. He was. He was a
Speaker 2: monster at Hawaii. He was my backup at modern days.
Speaker 2: We were best friends and then yeah, he so he
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, he had his path. He started Colorado,
Speaker 2: then went to Juco, kind of got his life back
Speaker 2: in order, and he bawled at Juco. He walked on
Speaker 2: for June Jones at Hawaii and just balled like he
Speaker 2: was a ballar. Dude, like he was a baller, and
Speaker 2: he was runner up in the Heisman. So we played
Speaker 2: on my senior year. We went out to Hawaii and
Speaker 2: I was and we had I think we had a
Speaker 2: better something. We dropped seventy on him, dude, but he
Speaker 2: he balled. I mean it was like seventy to twenty
Speaker 2: or something. But he played.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's back when those Hawaii teams were just they
Speaker 1: were ing, dude, just dude the run and shoot manball
Speaker 1: sixty times a game and he was like the flag
Speaker 1: carrier for the dude. He So he got drafted to Washington,
Speaker 1: Washington like fifth or sixth round, and I remember I
Speaker 1: was so happy for him. Bald in the preseason and
Speaker 1: tore his hip up and his and he just never
Speaker 1: like he was I think he was third string, but
Speaker 1: he was balling. Got him might have been Shanahan at
Speaker 1: the time, Mike Shanahan and uh fit perfect kind of
Speaker 1: who what type of quarterback he was? And uh, he
Speaker 1: got hurt and I think he tore his laboram and
Speaker 1: his hip or something and he just never got back.
Speaker 1: But like I thought, he probably would have stuck around
Speaker 1: a little bit, dude, because he could. He could, he
Speaker 1: was accurate, he was smart, and then he just he
Speaker 1: had a lot of problems, dude, and just feel bad.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeahstory was the first time you met Pete Carroll and
Speaker 1: you said Hugh Jackson was modern day, modern day Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he so I had so when chewing gum, probably
Speaker 1: he's drinking mountain dew and chewing gum.
Speaker 2: He came out. So when when Hackert got fired, I decommitted.
Speaker 2: And then actually Bob Stoops, who was at Fox for
Speaker 2: a while, Who's the Greatest Guy Oklahoma came in real
Speaker 2: hard and that was the year they won the title.
Speaker 2: They played Florida State and then Josh Hipel and they
Speaker 2: that they were they were awesome. So they were recruiting
Speaker 2: me and then I committed early to s ce DE.
Speaker 2: Committed because didn't know who the coach is going to be.
Speaker 2: Bob came in Hard Oklahoma, was like and I was like,
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. But then I want to visit Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then I went to Norman. I was like shit,
Speaker 2: I was like, dude. I was like, bro, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 2: but I can't go. I can't live in this place.
Speaker 2: I just it was like I was just couldn't. I
Speaker 2: couldn't go there. But I was like, I was fascinated.
Speaker 2: They were great, you know, but I'm like, I just
Speaker 2: can't see myself in Norman, Oklahoma. But the first time
Speaker 2: I met Pete was at MO today. He came to
Speaker 2: practice and just we threw the ball around and obviously
Speaker 2: he was trying to get me to commit there. Norm
Speaker 2: Chow came. That was a big reason why I stayed
Speaker 2: because Norm Chow his his history. He had just coached
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers and NC State, but he had like you know,
Speaker 2: all the guys at b Yu Detmer, Jim McMahon like
Speaker 2: he I mean, he was the quarterback guru. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the first time I met Pete Man probably
Speaker 2: chewing gum, freaking a dozen Mountain Dews a day.
Speaker 1: So you love you love so Norm Chow his son's
Speaker 1: my agent. Carter Chow really Carter Chow. Yeah, Carter Chow
Speaker 1: is one of my age and TV now in football,
Speaker 1: he's part of you and dubin sports, he's part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a stud and the Hawaiian. Yes, so I
Speaker 2: know so Cam. I know Cam a little better because Cameron.
Speaker 2: It was in Manhattan Beach for a long time. Carter,
Speaker 2: I know a little bit. I haven't seen them in
Speaker 2: forever though. Norm actually just called me today, did he randomly? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I will, I will. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just went out to Hawaiian and hung out with
Speaker 1: the family. They a little bit in the north. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Now, tell us about this quarterback room rookie or freshman year?
Speaker 2: Freshman year?
Speaker 3: You got you?
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer? Who else? My Castle? Your boy? Did you play?
Speaker 2: You played with Cast?
Speaker 1: No, you didn't.
Speaker 2: That's how we met. Castle played with Welker. He played
Speaker 2: with Welker.
Speaker 1: But we met because I used to come out, remember
Speaker 1: and throw with you guys at beach because I linked
Speaker 1: up with Casts.
Speaker 2: So my freshman doing TV too? No, I love cast.
Speaker 2: Talk talk about a career dude, Jesus Carson Castle me.
Speaker 2: Billy Hart was the other freshman that came in. Billy
Speaker 2: ended up getting drafted by the Yankees like sixth, like
Speaker 2: tenth round or something. Played baseball for a while, just
Speaker 2: I mean, just a clown show. It was awesome because
Speaker 2: Carson's like, I mean, you know, Castle Castles just well,
Speaker 2: Carson used to come out and throw with this too.
Speaker 2: And Carson's kind of Carson is like I always tell
Speaker 2: everybody he's like the driest sense of humor. But he's
Speaker 2: he's like, he's the funniest dude. He's sneaky funny man.
Speaker 2: He's just because like he's not like super social, but
Speaker 2: when like, he's just sneaky funny man. And Castle is
Speaker 2: the opposite. Castle is just a clown.
Speaker 1: The first time I met Castle, I don't know how
Speaker 1: it came up, but he got a piece of paper
Speaker 1: and he drew through three guys. He drew him Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and Vinnie Testaverdi. Do you know where this story
Speaker 1: is going. No, he drew him with a medium sized dick,
Speaker 1: Tom with a decent sized dick, and then he just
Speaker 1: threw that went off the fucking page. For Vinnie testaverdy
Speaker 1: and that's the first thing he ever. I'm like, I've
Speaker 1: heard of you, Matt Castle, but why are you telling
Speaker 1: me about any testa bird he's done? Like, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing he told me.
Speaker 2: That's something. Does it not surprise you? So we you know,
Speaker 2: we'd be sitting at practice and I'd be you know, uh,
Speaker 2: this was my probably my first two the second year too.
Speaker 2: I'd be taking a knee, you know, like leaning on
Speaker 2: the helmet as whatever, and he would just come over
Speaker 2: and just hawk a fucking loogie on my calf, just
Speaker 2: just like that. And I and I would I would
Speaker 2: just I would put like I would get big old
Speaker 2: boogers and just throw them in his helmet. All this
Speaker 2: ship we did the stupidest stuff, man, But you know,
Speaker 2: locker room ship. But Castle and Castle and Carson would
Speaker 2: wrestle Monday or Tuesday every week. And and both those
Speaker 2: dudes are big dudes, like Castle bay ass legs and
Speaker 2: Carson just a big human being. And they would go
Speaker 2: at it. And I don't know if you've ever wrestled,
Speaker 2: but they would wrestle for like three minutes straight, which
Speaker 2: they're just like they're like dead dude. He used to
Speaker 2: wrestle with Brady. Yeah, probably probably the same at He's
Speaker 2: just he's an idiot and the best idiot way. I
Speaker 2: love that. He's a fun guys, is he's the best. Now,
Speaker 2: first time you met Reggie, uh, probably his recruiting trip.
Speaker 2: Should I remember seeing his highlights? I don't know if you, guys,
Speaker 2: I mean San Diego, right, I remember? Yeah? So he
Speaker 2: was he You know whose quarterback was?
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 1: Once you say Alex Smith, Alex Smith, I knew that helix.
Speaker 2: There were two. There were like three highlight I don't know.
Speaker 2: We used to do this the recruiting class coming in
Speaker 2: Pete would show like all of the recruits our highlight
Speaker 2: video and the three I'll never forget. Well, Brian Cushing's
Speaker 2: was ridiculous because he was returning puns, playing running back. Linebacker. Uh,
Speaker 2: Jeff Byers was our center. He was the number one
Speaker 2: he he never he actually never really he started a
Speaker 2: little bit, but he was the number one lineman in
Speaker 2: the country from Colorado, I think. And this dude was
Speaker 2: just a monster. And then Reggie and Reggie's highlight was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, dude, this kid like that run every it
Speaker 2: was just he was he was he was a highlight.
Speaker 2: He was a video game and that's how it was.
Speaker 2: Like the first day probably recruiting trip. And then I
Speaker 2: remember so his first year, so he is one year
Speaker 2: behind me, so I still wasn't playing. Was that playing? Oh?
Speaker 2: I think I was playing. I think I was a
Speaker 2: red shirt sophomore and his his true freshmener, so I
Speaker 2: was two years ahead of him. And he came in
Speaker 2: and actually, dude, he was like kind of like second
Speaker 2: third string of we had three backs. We had Lendell
Speaker 2: who was a baller, and we had Chauncey Washington who
Speaker 2: actually was was on the depth chart right behind Herschel
Speaker 2: Dennis going in and Reggie was kind of like Scatt
Speaker 2: kind of used him in return, but he wouldn't go
Speaker 2: He would go in like third. But we knew in practice,
Speaker 2: were like, dude, this kid, he's just reversing field like
Speaker 2: and our defense was nasty. They couldn't tackle him, they
Speaker 2: couldn't get to him. He was I say this openly,
Speaker 2: like he's the best I think, best college football player
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There's a lot of debate, obviously, but
Speaker 2: what he did and like the most electric by far,
Speaker 2: I think him and like Mike Vick. You know, like
Speaker 2: those are the two at least in that Williams could
Speaker 2: be throwing. I mean there's a lot of guys I
Speaker 2: just think, like, but overall, what Reggie did, like you
Speaker 2: just can't like. Reggie was just like he was a
Speaker 2: human highlight film man.
Speaker 1: Who's the one guy in the team that needs a
Speaker 1: little more love that that his name gets passed around
Speaker 1: a little? What do you mean who no one really
Speaker 1: talks about? Because when you think of those teams, on
Speaker 1: those teams, we think about you, Reggie Bush. You think
Speaker 1: about some of the d guys, but it's usually you.
Speaker 2: And Reggie Bush. I think Lindell White, Lindell White. I
Speaker 2: mean I receive like well, I also say, you remember
Speaker 2: Mike Williams. M hm, dude, that was the most dominant
Speaker 2: dude I've ever seen. What do you get? He went
Speaker 2: to Detroit, he was he went he overall or so,
Speaker 2: he was like ninth or tenth. So they had just
Speaker 2: drafted I mean they were that was a bad years
Speaker 2: to be in Detroit, but they had they drafted Charles
Speaker 2: Rogers the year before, so they drafted two receivers back
Speaker 2: to back, remember that. And then he bounced around he
Speaker 2: went to Oakland, Seattle a little bit.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable. I think Lendel White is the one,
Speaker 2: just because he gets overshadowed by Reggie. I'm telling you what,
Speaker 2: like one of the best pure football players. You know,
Speaker 2: you play with just pure guys at any level, Like
Speaker 2: and Quombolton, to me was like the best pure football
Speaker 2: player I've ever played with. Like just this dude could
Speaker 2: start at safety. Received he was just a football player.
Speaker 2: Lendell was like that man, Like he was so naturally good.
Speaker 2: He didn't have to try at all. That was probably
Speaker 2: part of his downfall a little bit. He just didn't
Speaker 2: try as hard, probably as he got older. But he was.
Speaker 2: He was special man, and he was a big Without him,
Speaker 2: we don't win those those titles. Short yardage dude, he
Speaker 2: but he was. He was two forty four or five four,
Speaker 2: six broke tackles, quick pick up blitzes. He just did everything. Man.
Speaker 5: This season, he had fifteen and twenty one total yards and.
Speaker 2: Scread I think he's our twenty sixty. I think it
Speaker 2: is the all time touchdown leader at USC. He's got
Speaker 2: like sixty something.
Speaker 5: Right total, He's got fifty seven fifty.
Speaker 2: Seven and by the way, well, by the way, what's up. Yeah, Reggie,
Speaker 2: it's mad a lot because we big down on the
Speaker 2: five and they put Lendel and Lendell had like twenty
Speaker 2: touchdowns inside the five. Reggie, get us down there. But now,
Speaker 2: Lendell was a stud man. He's probably the one that
Speaker 2: gets people kind of like, oh, I remember how good
Speaker 2: he was? You know, yeah he was. He was a beach.
Speaker 2: He was just such a good one two punch. Did
Speaker 2: this dude? So we play Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: and that was the year we won. He had a
Speaker 2: spraining ankle like end of the season, so he didn't practice.
Speaker 2: He was you know, he just kind of didn't. He
Speaker 2: kind of showed up when he wanted to. He didn't
Speaker 2: practice all bowl season, proby three weeks. Showed up at
Speaker 2: the game two fifty five, two fifty five. He's like
Speaker 2: six two two fifty five and ran for like a
Speaker 2: buck fifty on him and looked like he was running
Speaker 2: a four to four and didn't practice one time. It
Speaker 2: was like it was honestly one of the greatest performers
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: So what what made Norm Chowell's offense is so electric?
Speaker 1: Was it you guys obviously had players, but we oh
Speaker 1: Wes West Coast.
Speaker 2: It fit me really well, getting the ball, fast timing,
Speaker 2: you know, play action stuff, bootleg stuff, and then we
Speaker 2: just did We had dogs, man, we had we had
Speaker 2: those recruiting classes, those handful even after I left for
Speaker 2: a couple of years. I mean that run from like
Speaker 2: two to ten, probably nine, eight or nine years was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Like the he left, you guys when became the head
Speaker 2: coach of Titans. He left at the he left at
Speaker 2: a very opportune time for himself. Oh Chile, you're talking
Speaker 2: about yeah, oh oh, Child left. Yeah, so Child left,
Speaker 2: I was talking about Pete. Pete left right before all
Speaker 2: the ship went down. Child left my senior year. So
Speaker 2: he took the OC job with the Titans with Jeff Fisher.
Speaker 2: But it was it was fine, like because Sark and
Speaker 2: Kiffin then became. Sark was my QB coach and then
Speaker 2: Kiffin was the OC. They were co ocs, but we
Speaker 2: didn't I mean, we didn't skip a beat. Obviously they were.
Speaker 2: I mean they're really good. So so you guys are
Speaker 2: essentially like, like you said, there was no LA Pro
Speaker 2: team at the time.
Speaker 1: You guys were the pro team. Now, what was the
Speaker 1: best part of it? Obviously going to all the club
Speaker 1: what was the worst part of it?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, for me personally, I think looking back,
Speaker 2: the perception that gave me as I went into the NFL,
Speaker 2: I think for sure, I don't. I always say I've
Speaker 2: said this, like, I don't think I helped my cause
Speaker 2: a lot. But I also like, wasn't like what everyone thought.
Speaker 2: I was. Like, we were in college. We worked our
Speaker 2: ass off, we won, we played at a high level.
Speaker 2: We just were like, that's just that was the life
Speaker 2: we had, dude, Like we would go anywhere. We were
Speaker 2: treated like celebrities. We could get into any club. At eighteen,
Speaker 2: we were living like normal college kids that in that city,
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, because that's just all we had. Yes, he's
Speaker 2: a terrible college town. We weren't like either we were
Speaker 2: going to a frat party who they hated us because
Speaker 2: we were the king of the town, or we go
Speaker 2: to a Hollywood club where we can get in and
Speaker 2: like drink and whatever, you know, Like so and we weren't.
Speaker 2: It's not like we were going out that much. We
Speaker 2: just when we went out, we went out, you know,
Speaker 2: Like and so I think the worst part was just
Speaker 2: how that perception carried with me in the NFL. It
Speaker 2: wasn't obviously, and again, like I said, I made mistakes.
Speaker 2: But I mean the best part is I mean, the
Speaker 2: best part is what I said. Man, we just I mean,
Speaker 2: the stories I could tell for days. Man, it was
Speaker 2: freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: Weill this what's your what's the wildest celebrity encounter that
Speaker 1: you had at one of those clubs?
Speaker 2: My my Nicholas, she was like one of my best friends.
Speaker 2: Is kind of funny how we met.
Speaker 7: But.
Speaker 2: Dude, we I just like we would we would hang
Speaker 2: with like DiCaprio, we would hang with because in that
Speaker 2: in that time, there was no camera phones and that
Speaker 2: was like the top of the club game because everyone
Speaker 2: would go out because no one there was no one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even I think a camera phone
Speaker 2: might have came out a couple of years later, but
Speaker 2: there was no worry. You know, you had security, no
Speaker 2: one was taking pictures of it. You could just do
Speaker 2: whatever the hell you want. Kid Rock I was I
Speaker 2: remember boozing one night heavy with Kid Rock. I was
Speaker 2: like I was like twenty. It's just like it was
Speaker 2: just it was like it was just random in the offseasons,
Speaker 2: every time you went out, you just ran into people
Speaker 2: and you just and they knew us, you know, and like,
Speaker 2: and then our boys ran the club, so they would
Speaker 2: set us up with the best table next to whoever
Speaker 2: was there. So you would just I mean, you know
Speaker 2: it is you would just mingle and it was just wild, dude,
Speaker 2: It was it. And the wild part about it was
Speaker 2: it just felt it was just super normal for us
Speaker 2: for those years. Yeah, Kyler, wrap up this dynasty? What
Speaker 2: else we got? Okay?
Speaker 5: So I just want to like throw out some quick
Speaker 5: stats on this. Pete Carroll era at USC, the uc'
Speaker 5: dynasty from two thousand and one to two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5: The Trojans went ninety seven and nineteen. There's a two
Speaker 5: thousand and three AP national title, two thousand and four
Speaker 5: national title against Oklahoma, and then two thousand and five
Speaker 5: lost the national championship game in Texas, which is probably
Speaker 5: the best best game of all time. And I can't
Speaker 5: wait to do that one here at some point.
Speaker 1: Do have a we have a huge Texas fan that
Speaker 1: wants to do that game.
Speaker 2: Dude. We get vy here? Why is the best? Who
Speaker 2: vincientzin now? And we were think Vince, we do Vince two.
Speaker 1: His last name rhymes with uh McConaughey, McVay chamane.
Speaker 2: They rhymes with that. Is that McConaughey. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if we lock it, if you get McConaughey,
Speaker 2: or I'll coming back because I'll talk smack to him.
Speaker 5: All right, book it seven?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 5: Seven consecutive Pack ten titles, thirty three straight weeks at
Speaker 5: number one, which is wild. From two thousand and three
Speaker 5: two thousand and five, finished top four in the eight
Speaker 5: peo pole for six straight years, three out of four
Speaker 5: Heisman winners from two thousand and two to two thousand
Speaker 5: and five, Palmer, Liner and Bush. Fourteen players select in
Speaker 5: the first round during that time, and twenty eight players
Speaker 5: selected in the first two rounds NFL Draft. That's the
Speaker 5: USC dynasty.
Speaker 2: Incredible, dude. And then from twenty ten to like twenty
Speaker 2: it was like nobody. So that was the Pack ten
Speaker 2: or twelve whatever we were. How sad is that we
Speaker 2: were Pack ten? I remember you guys, Packed ten. It's sad,
Speaker 2: But they only have their cell themselves to blame.
Speaker 1: They really do stupid, so smug pac Ten was always smug.
Speaker 1: We gotta get you, We got to get you in
Speaker 1: the college space a little bit.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: No, dude, No, we can't write, can't stay, don't belong.
Speaker 1: You can't read, you can't write, can't stay, can't We
Speaker 1: just don't.
Speaker 2: No, you're a crossover. You're a crossover.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. I got you. Although that's how I
Speaker 2: feel in the NFL, I'm like, God, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I fit in the NFL, that I'm
Speaker 2: more suited for college. Yeah, you fake it till you
Speaker 2: make it. Man, we'll get you. We'll get you on
Speaker 2: the show. Dude, they would go nuts for you. Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? You know what?
Speaker 1: I honestly, I got so mad. I didn't understand. Call
Speaker 1: it like where I grew I grew up in the Bay,
Speaker 1: so we used to like I used to like to
Speaker 1: high school Woodside. Nothing big part of the Bay though,
Speaker 1: because Peninsula right by Palo Alto. So when I grew up,
Speaker 1: there was Stanford in Berkeley, like whatever, you go to
Speaker 1: those games.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a crazy college.
Speaker 1: I mean that was they were both of them were
Speaker 1: pretty good. Aaron he was bawling over there. But then
Speaker 1: I went to I went to Ohio. I went to
Speaker 1: Kent State, and people used to get up and leave
Speaker 1: our game to go watch the Ohio State game, you know,
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't realize how big Ohio State was
Speaker 1: until I went to I didn't know college football. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't get that environment when you live in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area.
Speaker 2: Dude, why don't we get you to Michigan Ohio State.
Speaker 2: You're hot, you're an Ohio native. Ish yeah, ish, but
Speaker 2: then cub will be there. You guys fly back at
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm also come on, I'm also kind
Speaker 1: of bluey because the guy I used to toss me
Speaker 1: the rock.
Speaker 2: I think he might. We always usually try to get
Speaker 2: him on the show. Maybe he'll come on the show.
Speaker 2: We'll see if his schedule allows him. Yeah, let's go back.
Speaker 2: What's he doing now?
Speaker 1: I think he's just buying teams and being a dad
Speaker 1: buying teams.
Speaker 2: Delta consultant coming, He's coming to Fox right the Fox
Speaker 2: at some point. Maybe, I hope I'm here it's fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty. I don't know. No, he's I heard he's
Speaker 2: been working. You know, if he jumps into it. I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: he jumps in. He'll be good, He'll be good.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. After this quick break, let's go
Speaker 1: back to October fifteenth, two thousand and five. This is
Speaker 1: a segment we do. We try to live in that moment.
Speaker 1: The best movie was The Fog. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: this movie, you did. I'm not a scary I'm not
Speaker 1: a scary movie guy.
Speaker 2: I do. I do remember that. I do remember the movie.
Speaker 1: I remember Gold Digger by Kanye West.
Speaker 2: I still remember that. Yeah, yep, by the way, by
Speaker 2: the way though Twilight, huge Twilight fan. No shame in
Speaker 2: my game day Edward or the other one Team Edward
Speaker 2: or Team That's good. Oh no, no, the Wolf did
Speaker 2: the Wolves. I was Team Edward really a little bit.
Speaker 2: I used to love you. Don't strike me as a
Speaker 2: Team Edward guy, I know, but my sister liked him,
Speaker 2: and I kind of like, I don't get I didn't
Speaker 2: get the I mean that I don't think he's a
Speaker 2: good looking dude. I didn't really get the hype around him, but.
Speaker 1: I think it was he was like the goth cool kid,
Speaker 1: you know, like against the grain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was definitely the wolves.
Speaker 5: I used to.
Speaker 1: I loved those houses because when those movies came out,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a movie guy.
Speaker 1: I didn't read the books. They used to have such
Speaker 1: cool houses in like the Upper Northwest. Oh, like the
Speaker 1: modern House in the forest. Yeah, no, those are good movies.
Speaker 1: I'd actually rewatched those movies.
Speaker 2: I like those movies.
Speaker 1: What we got in sports the sports world first international
Speaker 1: game Arizona defeat San Francisco and Mexico City.
Speaker 2: We played in Mexico City? Did you how was that?
Speaker 2: I didn't play? Actually, what years it hurt my knee?
Speaker 2: What year is that? Seventeen? But we went out there.
Speaker 2: What year did you get drafted? You got dry nine
Speaker 2: and then you retired in twenty twenty. Hell of a career, dude,
Speaker 2: it was, it was. It was a good one. I remember, dude,
Speaker 2: when we train you and your long hair, and I remember,
Speaker 2: and that was when you were backing up kind of
Speaker 2: west right. You were kind of like following his mold.
Speaker 2: I remember, dude. I was like this kid, I was
Speaker 2: a kid because you were we were young. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: this kid's gonna be good. Dude, Like he's like he's
Speaker 2: got it man, and you freaking you just took off, Dude.
Speaker 2: I worked hard and oh yeah, no, I know it
Speaker 2: was dude, it was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 1: But that Mexico City, that that the altitude's at like
Speaker 1: ninety eight hundred feet?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 2: It is? People don't know that that our stadium. I
Speaker 2: heard Mexico City is kind of a cool, insane, so
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 1: I did a documentary there to promote the game, and
Speaker 1: then I ended up tearing my knee up. But we
Speaker 1: went out there and spent a week in Mexico. Mexico
Speaker 1: City was so fun, culture, the food was amazing, went
Speaker 1: to hot Do you wa con?
Speaker 2: You didn't play in London? I did?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 1: I did play?
Speaker 2: Say you guys in London? We went to London twice?
Speaker 2: Did you like that? Honestly?
Speaker 1: I had a blast because we with a lot of beer. No,
Speaker 1: we're a domestic sport and so they treatd They just
Speaker 1: were so excited, right, Not really, It's just it was
Speaker 1: exciting for us because you get to have.
Speaker 2: That that That's not a terrible flight for you guys.
Speaker 1: No, it was like six and a half hours, but
Speaker 1: the sleep schedule did get messed out. I wasn't used
Speaker 1: to going, you know, out of the country at that time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, London was cool. The grass was super long.
Speaker 2: Though. I bet those fans are not speaking of the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Dennis Green the greatest rant of
Speaker 2: all time? We were? They were?
Speaker 1: Who was?
Speaker 2: You know the backstory of that? Okay, So my rookie year,
Speaker 2: we played the Bears third game of preseason. Third game.
Speaker 2: Starters play most of the game, right, first half at least.
Speaker 2: And so I start that game and we're in Chicago
Speaker 2: and we beat them. And that was the year they
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl. Er Lacker, Lance Briggs, I
Speaker 2: mean they were they were stating their defense and nasty
Speaker 2: Pina Tillman. Yeah, their their d line was was really good.
Speaker 2: Tommy Harris I think was there, and uh, we just
Speaker 2: we outplayed them. We beat them, and we're like and
Speaker 2: so when we played that game, we were one in
Speaker 2: three or four. My first start was the week before
Speaker 2: and we missed a field goal to win against the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Ty Lob you play with tie, No, he picked me
Speaker 2: off in that game, but we should have won that game.
Speaker 2: And then the next week was Monday Night football and
Speaker 2: it was like first time we were on Monday Football
Speaker 2: for years, and we knew going to that game, like
Speaker 2: we could beat this team. They five an hour front
Speaker 2: of but we're like they had sexy, rexy, like they
Speaker 2: went on a run, but they had a great defense.
Speaker 2: Their offense was average, and we came out smoking, dude,
Speaker 2: like we were up twenty one to three or something
Speaker 2: like that, and then we took the foot off the pedal.
Speaker 2: They started making some plays and then freaking Devin Hester
Speaker 2: ran one back to go up with like four minutes left,
Speaker 2: and then a minute and a half left, we drive
Speaker 2: down and we get a field goal arranged twin and
Speaker 2: we miss again. We missed two field goals back to
Speaker 2: back games to lose. So then I get so then
Speaker 2: the postgame conference and Denny and I'm sitting the funny
Speaker 2: the funny thing isn't and Mark Dalton is still the
Speaker 2: pr guy there, and so I'm standing outside with Mark
Speaker 2: and all I hear is they are they thought they were?
Speaker 2: We let them off the hook. You want to crown them,
Speaker 2: crown the ass and Teddy was Eddy was awesome, dude,
Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting there like and I'm still pissing, like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, dude, like, I gotta follow this. So and
Speaker 2: then Mark's like you hear Mark's like, all right, next
Speaker 2: up is Matt Leonard's walk in there. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: And I was a rookie dude, so I didn't really
Speaker 2: say much. I was pretty quiet, like you know whatever,
Speaker 2: and that was it man, and he we were. He
Speaker 2: was so angry because we I mean, we should have
Speaker 2: won that game we had him doing. We just we
Speaker 2: choked it away.
Speaker 1: It's got to be crazy for you, a guy that
Speaker 1: comes from the most talented team probably in college football
Speaker 1: history at those at that time, then going to a team.
Speaker 2: We had so we had, we had Larry and we
Speaker 2: had an Kwan and that's what we had, two of
Speaker 2: the best to ever do it. Larry certainly and then
Speaker 2: and Kurt was there, who eventually resurrected his career. We weren't,
Speaker 2: I mean we were. We had some good players that year.
Speaker 2: We had Like even my rookie year, I played pretty
Speaker 2: well and we were like, okay, and then I heard
Speaker 2: my ac the last game of the year against San
Speaker 2: Francisco Jo Joint. But yeah, and it was like Mile
Speaker 2: and Alex Guerrero took care of me. But it was
Speaker 2: like grade twos, but I was it was like I
Speaker 2: think it was a second to last game, so but
Speaker 2: I was playing well whatever, and then okay, then the
Speaker 2: off season, then Danny gets fired, new coaching staff comes in,
Speaker 2: and that's where for me personally went all downhill. So
Speaker 2: like to get drafted there was one thing, but like
Speaker 2: showed a lot of promise. And then that second year,
Speaker 2: I was coming off the injury, so I didn't really
Speaker 2: have a good offseason, and then I was I was
Speaker 2: OTA's I was finally healthy and stuff. But it just
Speaker 2: it just was like from the get go, just this dude,
Speaker 2: and like you know you've been around coaches like you
Speaker 2: just I was screwed from day one, like I felt
Speaker 2: like and again I didn't help myself at times, but
Speaker 2: like there was nothing I could do right. It's tough
Speaker 2: when you're it was first ruined me a quarterback that
Speaker 2: the coaching staff gets fired who probably went on you know,
Speaker 2: on the table for you, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they're bringing in someone else and it's it's almost
Speaker 2: like they can't.
Speaker 1: They're like, we gotta go somewhere else because it buys
Speaker 1: that coaching staff more time.
Speaker 2: Well, and we had Kurt Warner who had already won
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, so like to Glove Kurt Warner at
Speaker 2: the time, Glove, I went dude. At one point I
Speaker 2: went to two Gloves because this dude, I was pissed, like,
Speaker 2: so I got I was there four years, so like
Speaker 2: year three, so year two we split time. The first
Speaker 2: six games, I broke my collarbone out. For the year
Speaker 2: year three we had a duel. He beat me out,
Speaker 2: and then that's the year we went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But that was also the year where I'm like, so
Speaker 2: he was two Gloves always and I'm like, dude, you're
Speaker 2: screwing me because he would use brand new balls and
Speaker 2: those brand new balls, I couldn't throw a brand new ball,
Speaker 2: and like I don't have I have big hands, but
Speaker 2: I don't have super big hands. I'm like, dude, you're
Speaker 2: gonna make me go to Gloves dude, because I couldn't. Like,
Speaker 2: he did not give a shit, and I tried to
Speaker 2: get him like, hey, can we get some of these
Speaker 2: old balls in there and just like this in case
Speaker 2: I have to go in and he was like, hey, whatever,
Speaker 2: but most of them were So I went to Two
Speaker 2: Gloves a couple of times I felt like an idiot.
Speaker 2: I actually threw the ball right in it, but I
Speaker 2: was like, what come on, dude, I look, I already
Speaker 2: looked bad enough in my uniform. You're gonna make me
Speaker 2: wear these nasty ass nikes. I tried two gloves after
Speaker 2: that for a while. Did you know the ball quite
Speaker 2: a bit? When I was you used two.
Speaker 1: Gloves because we used to have like crazy weather games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I felt like when you did, you could you
Speaker 1: could get really good some tripical force on the ball.
Speaker 1: You could spin it.
Speaker 2: I didn't, I to be honest with you, like, but I.
Speaker 1: Felt like sometimes it would stick in your hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes you you'd be dead accurate with it, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's sticked too long and yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: felt that I actually didn't throw too bad in him.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind it. It just I was just like, dude,
Speaker 2: this looks awful. What was gonna say?
Speaker 3: Was I? I?
Speaker 2: The year I got my mojo back was in Houston
Speaker 2: with Kubiak. Yeah, and it was like I was with Orlovsky,
Speaker 2: I was with Shob and then you're six. Did k
Speaker 2: have all the answers then?
Speaker 8: Too?
Speaker 2: He's the same as on TV's the same as he
Speaker 2: was then. Uh, but we had a fun we had
Speaker 2: that was about what he knows football. He was always
Speaker 2: like he should be I bet he'll be a coach
Speaker 2: one day. Although I know he likes he likes the freedom, yes,
Speaker 2: but Kubiak was so like Shanahan and like that tree.
Speaker 2: It just it went back to my college days. It
Speaker 2: just it felt right here was that That was eleven
Speaker 2: and twelve out of the year.
Speaker 1: Was that the year you guys came to our house
Speaker 1: in Letterman Jackets Houston. No Houston came one year in
Speaker 1: let like the whole team had a mantra. Now where
Speaker 1: Letterman Jackets no Fu we were we never I think
Speaker 1: we beat him, like forty eight to three year student.
Speaker 2: The only time I ever came to New England was
Speaker 2: preseason my rookie year, and dude, I'll never forget. It
Speaker 2: was week two and week one I was still holding
Speaker 2: out for my contract. So Week two was the first
Speaker 2: time I met New England. And it's Willie Mack. It's
Speaker 2: junior I think Bruski. It was like, you know, like
Speaker 2: those defenses were nasty and I think I played against
Speaker 2: him a little bit. I actually played pretty well the
Speaker 2: game that was the only time. And then the year
Speaker 2: Tom went out with the ACL you probably weren't there yet.
Speaker 2: It was oay before Yeah, right before he went out,
Speaker 2: cast Dog beat us and West went off. It was
Speaker 2: a snow game and they beat us like forty one
Speaker 2: to ten. And actually I actually came in afterw a
Speaker 2: touchdown to the Larry that game. They were down thirty points.
Speaker 2: That threw a go route to many. Kyle's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: But that was a year we ended up going to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Yeah, we were eight and eight. We
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs eight and eight, and we just
Speaker 2: made a freaking run. Dude, you gotta get hot at
Speaker 2: the right time. We started with the home game because
Speaker 2: we won our division, so we played I think we
Speaker 2: played Green Bay or Atlanta, so we had a good
Speaker 2: matchup there. And then Philly was the one seed or
Speaker 2: two seeds. They lost to Carolina, but we had whooped
Speaker 2: Carolina that year at Carolina, so we're like, like it's
Speaker 2: set up perfect. Oh no, no, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 2: our Carolina. We went and then we hosted Philly in
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship and we had the perfect run to
Speaker 2: get to the playoff or it's a Super Bowl. We
Speaker 2: should have won the Super Bowl. We lost Corner. Well,
Speaker 2: we got Kyler.
Speaker 5: The Letterman Jacket game was in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was gone. Yeah Texas they were Letterman Jacket.
Speaker 5: Yeah Texas. The Texans went to New England in Him
Speaker 5: and Jackets. They lost forty.
Speaker 2: They always had good teams, but we had well that
Speaker 2: was we were playoffs. I mean the two years I
Speaker 2: were there, we were we lost to Baltimore. Dude, both
Speaker 2: years at Baltimore, I mean they were just they were rocking.
Speaker 2: But we had Aaron Foster was a beast those years.
Speaker 2: Andre Johnson Demico Ryans was our middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: Miko what a what a stud he's been doing. I meanmember,
Speaker 1: I'm so like happy for him.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for CJ. Stroud. We we covered him in
Speaker 2: college and he's he's he's from He's from out this way,
Speaker 2: kind of tough upbringing, you know, like just family stuff
Speaker 2: and like really good kid. Man. I got to I
Speaker 2: got to talk to him a bunch in Ohio State
Speaker 2: and just he just like he just wanted to be great.
Speaker 2: He's kind of soft spoken, great leader, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: felt a lot of pressure at Ohio State. There just
Speaker 2: and like I I was rooting for a man and
Speaker 2: he's been balling. Dude. Yeah, like he's playing playing his
Speaker 2: tail off man.
Speaker 1: It's it's impressive to see. We'll be right back after
Speaker 1: this quick break.
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Speaker 2: Let's set the stage for this game.
Speaker 5: So two thousand and five Notre Dame fighting Irish. This
Speaker 5: was the first year of the Charlie Weiss era. Charlie
Speaker 5: Weiss Notre Dame had hope to sign Urban Meyer, but
Speaker 5: they were able to get Charlie Weiss from three Soup
Speaker 5: Bowls from the Patriots. Kind of somewhat famously, Weis told
Speaker 5: his players every game, you will have a decided schematic advantage.
Speaker 5: That was his quote there. They started the season unranked.
Speaker 5: They were four and one leading up to the Bush
Speaker 5: Push game, with one lost to Michigan State ranked number
Speaker 5: nine in the country at the time. Some notble names,
Speaker 5: Charlie Wiss as we mentioned, Brady Quinn quarterback, Jeff Smarja
Speaker 5: wide receiver, and Thomas Zibakowski the boxer, the boxer safety.
Speaker 2: He was such a cool dude, Zibokowski. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he met him, but he was the beast dude.
Speaker 2: I was like a fan of him. Some mars are
Speaker 2: pitching in the big leagues for like twelve years, twelve
Speaker 2: and he was a baller receiver too, insane.
Speaker 1: I remember him always catching deep post rides.
Speaker 2: He was six ' five dude, and like he just yeah,
Speaker 2: I told you, just still go routes to the guy.
Speaker 2: He because he could jump. He was He was a
Speaker 2: good receiver, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the smart way to do it. Though
Speaker 1: he probably has a lot more money and a lot
Speaker 1: less pain right now.
Speaker 2: So he was making like ten MILLI a year just
Speaker 2: pitching like every five days bullpen too. I know, I
Speaker 2: wish I would have done that. Set the stage.
Speaker 5: We already kind of set the stage for the Irish
Speaker 5: shaw so Us two thousand and five USC Trojans. They
Speaker 5: were coming off an undefeated season, having beat Oklahoma fifty
Speaker 5: five nineteen in the two thousand and four National Championship game, Matt,
Speaker 5: you won the Heisman.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: They were riding a twenty two game win streak. Fourteen
Speaker 5: returning starters from the twenty fourteen team. I think a
Speaker 5: lot of those on offense. The number one ranked team
Speaker 5: coming into the year. Notable coaching change, as we mentioned,
Speaker 5: Norm Child left the Titans coach coach o to Ole
Speaker 5: miss Uh brought in Steve Farkis as QB coach, and
Speaker 5: Link Kiffin was elevated to OC Noble names peak. You
Speaker 5: don't need the noble names. We all know the USC
Speaker 5: notable names.
Speaker 2: Geez, let's get into there. So yeah, you get into
Speaker 2: the game. First half terrible. You guys are kind of battling.
Speaker 2: You guys scored first, they're they're leading at half time. Dude,
Speaker 2: I played awful that game, awful up until like one
Speaker 2: the last play. Why I was played bad, dude, just
Speaker 2: it was my It was we had struggled against Arizona
Speaker 2: State a couple weeks prior, by knocked out of that game.
Speaker 2: I couldn't see straight. I stayed in, but it just
Speaker 2: for me. I'll never forget. I felt the pressure of
Speaker 2: coming back and it wasn't even about winning a Heisman.
Speaker 2: I know it was gonna want it was like just
Speaker 2: trying to win a third championship. But just I just
Speaker 2: felt pressure that year to be great, Like I had
Speaker 2: to be great. People like you were gonna be the
Speaker 2: number one pick if you came out. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think I was. I wasn't healthy, I didn't
Speaker 2: feel right. So there's just a lot of pressure that
Speaker 2: I kind of put upon myself to like have to
Speaker 2: lead this team. So you didn't go back. You came
Speaker 2: back because you thought so I was supposed dude, So
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how it works. But it was
Speaker 2: me Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers and I had just
Speaker 2: came off the great performance in the Orange Bowl and
Speaker 2: so like kind of riding that wave, and I had
Speaker 2: a messed up elbow I ended up getting surgery on
Speaker 2: and that was a part of it. And also honestly,
Speaker 2: I just I just don't want to leave school, Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love what we're doing. Truthfully, Like I
Speaker 2: had just graduated, so I had to take one class
Speaker 2: my senior year ballroom ballroom dancing dude. So I took
Speaker 2: that with Mark Sanchez. By the way, san Chito, san Chito,
Speaker 2: he was a true freshman. But anyway, so Notre Dame. Okay,
Speaker 2: so they were good, like it was. It was it
Speaker 2: was a first. I told this to Brady that not
Speaker 2: too long ago, we got off the bus on i
Speaker 2: think Friday, like Friday, walk through, go to the stadium,
Speaker 2: screw around a little bit, and there was like six
Speaker 2: hundred students waiting for us, and so the story goes.
Speaker 2: He told me, He's like, you know why they were there.
Speaker 2: I was like why, He's like they had a pep
Speaker 2: rally the night before. They said, heyes, he's getting here
Speaker 2: at two o'clock. We need to show out, talk shit,
Speaker 2: do whatever you need to do, like screw with them.
Speaker 2: So we get out. A Notre Dame is not really
Speaker 2: like it's not really like a hostile environment, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a cool place to play, but
Speaker 2: it's not like probably playing in the SEC or some
Speaker 2: of these crazy atmospheres. But that year was And we
Speaker 2: get out and I'll never forget Sark's like Sark takes
Speaker 2: me like kind of by my shoulder and he's like
Speaker 2: walking me through. They made a tunnel for us, but
Speaker 2: they're just like signs, talking shit, flipping us off. It
Speaker 2: was awesome, dude. I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: So that's when I knew. Right when I got off
Speaker 2: the bus, I'm like, this is gonna be a battle.
Speaker 2: Because they were good too, like they like they could
Speaker 2: have easily beaten us. Obviously, that was when I knew.
Speaker 2: It was like, all right, this is gonna be a game.
Speaker 2: And then the game, man, it just started slow, dude,
Speaker 2: Like it was just kind of like one of those games,
Speaker 2: like feeling each other out. The second half picked up
Speaker 2: for sure, Like the second half was more back and forth.
Speaker 2: The first half was just slow. It was just one
Speaker 2: of those things.
Speaker 1: And then the one thing that stands out to me,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about that last drive, because you guys
Speaker 1: are going back and forth. You guys weren't playing that great,
Speaker 1: and that could be because of rivalry. I mean it
Speaker 1: was a hostel environment. You got touchdown, they had a
Speaker 1: punt return to Zibakowski over here boxing and returning punch
Speaker 1: for we got let's walk let's walk down this last.
Speaker 2: Drive that you guys had.
Speaker 5: Before we go to the last drive, I want to
Speaker 5: touch on one thing that note that Notre Dame did
Speaker 5: switchero stupid they did.
Speaker 2: So they they came out in their traditional blue or
Speaker 2: their dark navy for pregame. When they went back in
Speaker 2: and they didn't break you said they didn't know. It
Speaker 2: was a surprise. So I think they've worn maybe the
Speaker 2: green jerseys a handful of times, right, but prior to that,
Speaker 2: for like matchups or I think when it was the
Speaker 2: number one team in the country, maybe.
Speaker 5: They also have not to cut you off. They have
Speaker 5: they're kind of street killers a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, so there was something of something behind it. So
Speaker 2: they after pregame, they go in and Brady's like, all
Speaker 2: of our green jerseys were hanging, so they were like,
Speaker 2: let's go, Like there was you know, it was like
Speaker 2: just totally amp and them up. Motivation is D two
Speaker 2: the Mighty Ducks. You're back kind of right, dude.
Speaker 1: Remember that when they became Team USA and they.
Speaker 2: Come out in the second half. Dude, by the way,
Speaker 2: top top five sport movie of all time. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: So then they come out in the green jerseys and
Speaker 2: we're like, oh my god, I just hate Notre Damn Dude.
Speaker 2: I still hate Notre Dame. Just a bunch of Aragon assholes.
Speaker 2: But that's fine. That's for another story. So that just
Speaker 2: that just was like, screw these guys. But okay, the drive.
Speaker 2: So Brady scores with what two minutes left?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: It was a couple of minutes two four, and obviously
Speaker 2: plenty of time. We had a couple timeouts or one
Speaker 2: time out. At least you guys have that third you guys,
Speaker 2: I remember twenty third. I remember every played do the
Speaker 2: first play cover two it was like a comeback turned
Speaker 2: to a fade. It was not open, so I threw
Speaker 2: it out of bounds. Second play, I get sacked. Second
Speaker 2: and twenty or yeah, I get sacked. So now it's
Speaker 2: third and twenty and we call time out. Hit Reggie
Speaker 2: and I'm on the sideline and they're like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what play we called at that point, but we're like,
Speaker 2: if it's not there, just check down to Reggie. Obviously
Speaker 2: it's for that. We're going for it and four down.
Speaker 2: Let's try and get half back. A little check down here.
Speaker 2: How is the guy's eyes in the huddle when you're
Speaker 2: calling this player? Are we are? We dialed locked in?
Speaker 2: And I'll get to that. It was. It was. It
Speaker 2: was one of the coolest and you've been in huddles
Speaker 2: like that for sure. Super Bowl game winning drives, like
Speaker 2: we just knew, Like it was just one of those
Speaker 2: things where you didn't even have to say anything. It
Speaker 2: was just like we've kind of been there, dude. We
Speaker 2: had a couple comebacks in this time. Everyone thinks we
Speaker 2: blow everybody out. There were a couple games were like,
Speaker 2: hey we got we got a fourth quarter, we got
Speaker 2: to step up. Yeah, it just we just it was
Speaker 2: pretty cool. So third and twenty we get eleven back.
Speaker 2: So then I think we might call time out again.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it was another timeout because we yeah,
Speaker 2: it was another thing. Was our last time out we
Speaker 2: call I'll never forget trouble right sixty one? Sam why option?
Speaker 2: All right? So it was trips right, So front tight
Speaker 2: end dominic Birder's good was running an option round right
Speaker 2: around the sticks cover to Steve Smith, who was great.
Speaker 2: It was gonna run a kind of post split the
Speaker 2: safety kind of high low there, and then if it's
Speaker 2: single high, Dwayne runs our backside comeback, which he was
Speaker 2: great at. And that was the matchup always liked anyway.
Speaker 2: And then Reggie's out on a little option route. But
Speaker 2: they said, hey, if you see any single high. Let's
Speaker 2: let's check the slug go win. Old school slug go
Speaker 2: win was our bread and butter. And I don't think
Speaker 2: it was it. It might have been Zibakowski, but so okay.
Speaker 2: So the part of the huddle, so I come in
Speaker 2: and I swear to god, dude, it was the loudest
Speaker 2: had ever been in and Notre Dame's not traditionally loud.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't hear myself talk, and everybody is just
Speaker 2: you could just see it. Everybody's just like laser focused.
Speaker 2: I'm like trouble. I'm yelling troubro. I see someone saying, hey,
Speaker 2: look for my hands. I'm gonna I'm gonna check the
Speaker 2: slogo win if I see this, look whatever. And at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, I don't even think like I'm
Speaker 2: getting goosebumps just thinking about it. I don't even think
Speaker 2: they heard me fucking say hi, dude. They it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, dude, when all eleven or on like the
Speaker 2: same page. To make a play to win a freaking game,
Speaker 2: or to make a play like that is like nothing
Speaker 2: better in football my opinion. Everybody does their job, especially
Speaker 2: especially in a moment like that. So like Yeah, the
Speaker 2: throw gets a lot of credit, but the line, like
Speaker 2: every we checked didn't hear shit, everyone's slid protection blocked
Speaker 2: Dwayne just right over the shoulder, boom out the gate
Speaker 2: for sixty. Then gott it got howked because if it
Speaker 2: would scored been like over a minute left, they probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2: The probably would have came down and scored on us.
Speaker 2: But that moment, man, it was like it was just
Speaker 2: like looking back, you know, Ei, there's a little nerve
Speaker 2: You're like, shit, we gotta make this play live, but
Speaker 2: like just never a doubt. It just felt like never
Speaker 2: a doubt.
Speaker 1: Then you guys go in and you guys get to
Speaker 1: the red area.
Speaker 2: So we get to the red area, Reggie had a
Speaker 2: really good third down. That's that's the play people forget
Speaker 2: about because we had no timeouts. Let it was like
Speaker 2: third and four and we ran eight seconds or something. Yes,
Speaker 2: so we ran like a little like outside zone and
Speaker 2: he got the first down by like a yard and
Speaker 2: so then the football it stopped. It stopped so then
Speaker 2: we could huddle. So that was a play. And then
Speaker 2: the next play we go scramble. Is when I scrambled
Speaker 2: and I fumble and that was fu were you terrified?
Speaker 2: And then dude, I was like When I look back,
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, like I was a pretty good athlete.
Speaker 2: Just jump like three inches higher and I score. Like
Speaker 2: I would literally watch that play a thousand times, and
Speaker 2: I'm like embarrassed because I could like I could dunk
Speaker 2: back then, like I was like a sneaky good like
Speaker 2: kind of lazy hop I could dunk a little bit.
Speaker 2: But you know, and I look back at that play
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, what an embarrassment that was. But
Speaker 2: I fune no clue where the ball went. I kind
Speaker 2: of got you know, pirouidic like that clock goes out
Speaker 2: due well, okay, So I do remember getting up and
Speaker 2: I see the ref like right next to me going
Speaker 2: like this, like clock stopped out of bounds with obviously
Speaker 2: I think they put seven seconds on but with like
Speaker 2: three seconds on the clock. And the next thing I
Speaker 2: know is they're storm in the field Charlie Weiss on
Speaker 2: the jumbo tron, and I'm just like, what just happened?
Speaker 2: I just lost the game? Literally in my mind, I'm
Speaker 2: like but then then they start circling up and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: the ball's out of bounce. So then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're good. So then the bush push so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So the cock y Yeah, So they're all just commotion
Speaker 2: there while everyone's getting off the field. We're kind of like,
Speaker 2: right the line of scrimmage, seven seconds left and our
Speaker 2: I should have clocked it for sure. Our clock signal
Speaker 2: was always a built in quarterback wedge, no matter what.
Speaker 2: So the linemen always block QB sneak, whether I sneak
Speaker 2: at or clock it regardless. Obviously they kind of know
Speaker 2: in the time of the game or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: I had told him up there, because there was like
Speaker 2: a minute there where I'm going to Pete like, hey,
Speaker 2: this was our sign. You want me to like you
Speaker 2: want me to do it? He's like do it like whatever.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, fuck it, dude, I'm doing it. So, Reggie,
Speaker 2: did he do that to you?
Speaker 1: Think Russell Wilson and in the Super Bowl with us?
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not the worst call of all time?
Speaker 2: How about how about dude? How about Marshawn just calling
Speaker 2: him out? I love I love Marshall. Right after that,
Speaker 2: all the linemen are standing up and Reggie comes up
Speaker 2: to me and I go, what, I go, dude, I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna do it. What's trying to do? He's like,
Speaker 2: I got you. That was it. It was like a
Speaker 2: two second thing. I get up, dude, and you could
Speaker 2: see there, dude, Zibekowski's right over the a block a gap.
Speaker 2: This guy is gonna box punch me in the face
Speaker 2: as I'm trying to sneak all these big dudes. I
Speaker 2: had no business trying to sneak that play. I was
Speaker 2: on the one and a half one yard line. All
Speaker 2: I remember, dude is falling, falling in the end zone.
Speaker 2: I didn't even remember. I didn't feel Reggie pushed me.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I get up. I'm like, might have shed
Speaker 2: a tear. Oun't even know what's going on. I'm like this.
Speaker 2: And then after the game, Reggie, Reggie, I think there's
Speaker 2: a video of Reggie comes on and he goes, you know,
Speaker 2: I pushed your ass in, right, And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I had no clue, dude, So like the bush push
Speaker 2: became that after, but I had no clue he pushed
Speaker 2: me in because dude, it was just like there's like
Speaker 2: fifty bodies on me. Dude, I had no idea I
Speaker 2: got in. And now Philadelphia uses everywhere with push Pushed you.
Speaker 2: That's where it originated from. So he did that play
Speaker 2: with Stafford in Detroit, the same the same play, dude.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 2: I mean it was probably ten years ago. He's a
Speaker 2: serial push He's a serial pusher, dude. He just likes
Speaker 2: to get up in there and just have to be
Speaker 2: such a cool feeling. I mean, that's this is the
Speaker 2: old one of the oldest, dude.
Speaker 1: It's college football rivalries West Coast versus the Midwest.
Speaker 2: It was like Cathlics versus the not the convicts, that's
Speaker 2: for sure. I would say this dude, Like I kind
Speaker 2: of talked about that huddle, like the moment, like that
Speaker 2: was really special looking back, and then like the locker
Speaker 2: room after, like it was the only time you know,
Speaker 2: you've been in locker rooms. Like we were so just
Speaker 2: the pressure, dude, Like we were just like and we
Speaker 2: end up losing Texas, but like the pressure to win
Speaker 2: in just every week. It was a grind, dude. It
Speaker 2: was an emotional grind. And like college students too, Dude.
Speaker 2: That game was so emotional. So we were in the
Speaker 2: locker room and I kid you not, like there were
Speaker 2: guys like just crying because they like not like you know,
Speaker 2: just like one tier, just like like like a relief.
Speaker 2: And it was really it was special, dude. It was
Speaker 2: a really special thing. And then I'll never forget. We
Speaker 2: had a player's only meeting. So that was Saturday. We
Speaker 2: had a players only meeting on Monday because we weren't playing,
Speaker 2: we weren't playing great and not in the union. We
Speaker 2: had a State of the Union, dude, and we were
Speaker 2: just like, yo, like we all need to like take
Speaker 2: a deep breath and like hold ourselves accountable both sides. Well,
Speaker 2: I stood up and talked to remember because I wasn't
Speaker 2: playing very well in my mind, and then we started
Speaker 2: rolling and then we had the Freends of State game,
Speaker 2: which was close, but but yeah, man, that was that year.
Speaker 2: Was that was nuts.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: Well, people don't realize when you guys are like who
Speaker 1: you are at that time. Everyone is circling you. Coaches
Speaker 1: will get jobs if they beat you. Players are gonna
Speaker 1: get drafted if they beat you. You guys are Americans.
Speaker 2: Charley Weiscott paid for a decade off that game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he got fired and got paid for eight years later.
Speaker 2: I think he went to Kansas. He was getting like
Speaker 2: eight million a year from Notre Dame for like eight years, dude,
Speaker 2: because of that game. Because of that game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Then you guys, go on, you didn't, Oh, you weren't there. Charlie.
Speaker 2: Charlie was in New England.
Speaker 1: He was well, I know everything about He's there's a
Speaker 1: he was with Tom right to the first couple of years.
Speaker 1: There's an infamous office called Charlie's Office that had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 2: Brady's got some good Charlie White stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could always, you know, everyone would always
Speaker 1: when we were breaking down the offense because he was
Speaker 1: the one who kind of made our offense with the
Speaker 1: zero zero outslot zero out slot zero slot feing, you know,
Speaker 1: and the it evolved to what it became. But he
Speaker 1: was definitely a good play caller and he was a
Speaker 1: huge part of the early success of those Patriot.
Speaker 2: Teams in Sankowski nine and know what's up. I don't
Speaker 2: know in his boxing career, I know nine.
Speaker 5: And oh his first match was at Massive Square Garden
Speaker 5: while he was a student at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: He was a good player. He was tough as shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just the aftermath, USC went on twelve and one.
Speaker 4: That year.
Speaker 5: You mentioned the Fresno State game fifty to forty two.
Speaker 5: You guys pulled that one out. Reggie Bush won the
Speaker 5: Heisman and lost in the in the iconic two thousand
Speaker 5: and five, but six, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, the entire season was vacated. Really backs it? Is
Speaker 2: it back? Though? Who cares? We smashed everybody except Notre
Speaker 2: Dame in Texas, but we're out of the record books,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. But they're gonna bring it back. Who
Speaker 2: cares doesn't matter always he's getting his back. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You gotta ask him. People will say, like, oh, those
Speaker 2: wins don't count, like really, like, it's not like Reggie
Speaker 2: took steroids, dude, Like it's something like he is. It's dumb,
Speaker 2: he took money.
Speaker 5: How do you feel about like the nil and that
Speaker 5: all being kind of fair game?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 5: Does it? Like is it like salty?
Speaker 1: Or how do you feel about that long time?
Speaker 2: I was in the wrong era playing college, That's for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm all for anile obviously. I mean yeah, like looking back,
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't we didn't even think about it
Speaker 2: because it wasn't. It didn't exist. But I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: people were getting money and all over the country, but
Speaker 2: how much money did you get?
Speaker 1: How I think how big was the pay cut when
Speaker 1: you got to the NFL.
Speaker 2: Dude, I didn't get any money in college. I swear
Speaker 2: to God. I swear to God. Just a bunch of freak,
Speaker 2: I would boot. I got, yeah, man, a bunch of
Speaker 2: club stuff, right. I drove a Ford Ranger. I drove
Speaker 2: my first ever car when I was sixteen, was a
Speaker 2: stick shift Ford White Ranger extended cab. I drove that
Speaker 2: throughout my college career. I remember when I came back,
Speaker 2: I usually drive down the road my my Ranger, and
Speaker 2: all my boys would be like, dude, no one's given
Speaker 2: you a car yet. I said, no, man, this is
Speaker 2: my joy high dude. This and I had and my
Speaker 2: dad my dad. I ended up because then when I
Speaker 2: got drafted, I got a Tahoe, but I wanted to
Speaker 2: keep my truck. I was like, I want to keep it.
Speaker 2: It's like my truck sentimental value. My mom and dad
Speaker 2: sold that thing because it was stuck at their house
Speaker 2: for years. They sold it without telling me. Dude. I
Speaker 2: was pissed. They're like, this is not you don't even
Speaker 2: drive it's sitting in our driveway. We're selling that thing.
Speaker 2: No man I got. I just honestly it sounds so
Speaker 2: it sounds like I'm lying. I just really wasn't exposed
Speaker 2: to it. Like I didn't run into people who'd be like,
Speaker 2: hey I did I did uh run into like some
Speaker 2: autograph people like at the award show, like hey I
Speaker 2: got like kind of like what Manzell did, like hey
Speaker 2: I got one hundred pictures, I'll give you ten grand
Speaker 2: And I I remember I was with my brother in
Speaker 2: Orlando and we're like now we're good. But like never,
Speaker 2: it just never. I never really met anyone like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I tell that everybody. I swear, like shit, I wish
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 1: But Alabama guys and all the Florida guys that I
Speaker 1: played with during the Urban years.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, they all took pay cuts. Yes, they took
Speaker 2: a lot of pay cuts. Yes.
Speaker 5: So the just to wrap up the game, the final
Speaker 5: score is thirty four to thirty one, and then Notre
Speaker 5: Dame went on to the Fiesta Ball. They finished nine
Speaker 5: to two, where they lost to Ohio State. They lost
Speaker 5: the next four games to US. As we mentioned, Jeff
Speaker 5: Smarger went on to play for the Cubs, very successful career.
Speaker 5: Toms Mkowski was nine and oh was a boxing career.
Speaker 5: Brady Quinnin went to the NFL draft. A few years later.
Speaker 5: Weiss was fired and then replaced with Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2: Wait, Brian Kelly was he was the next coach.
Speaker 4: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I guess there for a long time. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: there for a long time.
Speaker 1: Where is this Bush push rank amonks all time controversial calls? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't even people talk about that. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is well because its technically technically.
Speaker 5: Section three, Article two B of NCAA Rulebook states that
Speaker 5: the runner shall not grasp a teammate, and no other
Speaker 5: player of his team shall grasp, push, lift, or charge
Speaker 5: into him to assist him in ford progress if the
Speaker 5: penalty has been called to push whatever resulted in the
Speaker 5: five var penalty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't call that on and we can't call
Speaker 2: that at the end of the game. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it could be, It could be. It could be considered controversial,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. And you guys have SC hasn't been
Speaker 2: SC since then? Where's it? Where's that dynasty rank all time?
Speaker 2: You guys are up there yeah. I mean in modern
Speaker 2: day we got I mean, Bama has been a great dynasty.
Speaker 2: We got to be up there. Miami had a good run.
Speaker 2: I mean I think I would put us. I mean,
Speaker 2: you go back in history books, but I think I
Speaker 2: put us up there as top two or three dynasties,
Speaker 2: two titles, three Heisman's Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean being a California kid, that was like our
Speaker 1: badge because we were like all our best California kids
Speaker 1: went there and you always hear about Texas, you hear
Speaker 1: about Ohio State, and.
Speaker 2: We I wore it with you guys. I mean, oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: we always like it was all like that was when
Speaker 2: the the cal Texas High School All Star Game was
Speaker 2: in Texas, Like, oh we got the best high school football,
Speaker 2: which is good Florida, but it was like Cali always
Speaker 2: got a little like slided, I think right always. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool to rep like West Coast and USC,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like and to beat we
Speaker 2: beat every SEC team we played anyway. I mean in
Speaker 2: that era, we beat everybody. You know. We lost to
Speaker 2: cal and we lost to Texas, but we beat Auburn,
Speaker 2: we beat Arkansas, we be Michigan and even after I left.
Speaker 2: We still we had a run, you know, we beat
Speaker 2: all those teams, Yeah Tech to beat Ohio, Yeah, Ohio
Speaker 2: State at the Shoe Matt Barkley's freshman year, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: That was a game. Ship. That was a tough ass game.
Speaker 2: We played at uh Prop, we played. We played with
Speaker 2: the Redskins play Commanders now, but so we didn't play
Speaker 2: at the Tech. I played you. Yeah, I heard in
Speaker 2: the stadiums built like this. Yeah. So it's not the
Speaker 2: biggest stadium like a lot of those old stadiums that
Speaker 2: you guys, but it's loud as loud because there I
Speaker 2: played there in two thousand and six seven. You guys
Speaker 2: got smacked up there because they were good those years.
Speaker 1: The good.
Speaker 5: Can we talk about Xavier dB covering Reggie Bush that
Speaker 5: whole game before he pours tours to pack?
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say so he he got hurt
Speaker 2: early in that game. Yeah, so that I remember that
Speaker 2: was opening game. I'll never forget. That was oh four
Speaker 2: and I was like, dude, this is the fastest defense
Speaker 2: I've ever seen on film. They had Eric Green who
Speaker 2: ended up playing with and he was the second round
Speaker 2: pick corner. Their other corner was a first round pick.
Speaker 2: I think big tall guy, Jimmy Williams, Jimmy Wall. I
Speaker 2: was saying, Jimmy Smith or Jimmy Jimmy Smith was the
Speaker 2: calor Jimmy Williams. Maybe, yeah, he played for a while.
Speaker 2: Xavier Dbi, but he tore his pack or his bicep.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget, dude. We had fourth quarter, they had
Speaker 2: just the outside linebacker. He shouldn't have been playing outside linebacker.
Speaker 2: And we all we would always offset Reggie try to
Speaker 2: get man obviously, and I just he ran a wheel route.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, dude, touch. That was the play that
Speaker 2: put us so. We only won twenty four to thirteen.
Speaker 2: A thing, but that was it. I remember seeing that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, dude, you're not covering Reggie. I bet you.
Speaker 1: Reggie in this day and age would be like if
Speaker 1: he were to come and be putting into this football,
Speaker 1: he was, he was, he was, he was still dynamic.
Speaker 2: He was still a beast. He was. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: used that way in New Orleans for.
Speaker 1: What it wasn't as sexy to talk about. He was
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey before Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Low key, Yeah, he he was probably just ahead of
Speaker 2: his time in that in that role he I mean,
Speaker 2: I think his rookie year, dude, he had like seventy catches.
Speaker 2: I remember because I mean Sean Payton and Drew like
Speaker 2: it was a perfect It was perfect for him. And
Speaker 2: then he had he had a good year in Miami.
Speaker 2: I had a good year in Detroit. But yeah, he
Speaker 2: just was kind of ahead. Because you know, now it's
Speaker 2: now these guys catching balls sixty. You know they're doing everything.
Speaker 1: Man, You know what makes it's a it's a crazy correlation,
Speaker 1: but it makes me think the way you guys treated
Speaker 1: your team, your practice, your everything. How Pete embraced the celebrities.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of today's landscape. What Dion's
Speaker 1: doing at Colorado. It's it's very similar, very similar.
Speaker 2: I think, use everyone to come over here, make it
Speaker 2: a fun place to play. Dude. He has been, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, so great for football, I mean especially college one.
Speaker 2: He's deon right, So he's one of the greatest athletes
Speaker 2: where the greatest football players to ever live. He's an
Speaker 2: incredible human being. Uh, he's an incredible motivator, inspiring all
Speaker 2: these things. Uh, he's pretty good coach. Too, you know,
Speaker 2: like I think he kind of does more of the
Speaker 2: just managing and he's the motivator and all that. But dude,
Speaker 2: he's he's totally just like won the transfer portal has
Speaker 2: changed the way college football is. But he's just just
Speaker 2: the way he is, Like he's unapologetically him. He gets
Speaker 2: the most out of his players. He's kind of he's
Speaker 2: just it's kind of a fresh breath of fresh air
Speaker 2: in a sense, you know, like because he is who
Speaker 2: he is. He doesn't give a shit what people say.
Speaker 2: He's he's deon. He's never cared about that his players.
Speaker 2: Like he's got work to do. His players kind of
Speaker 2: fit that mold and they're out there having fun. They're
Speaker 2: they are embracing everything that college football is. N I
Speaker 2: l transfer portal. I'm gonna be me. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: myself because you know, and uh, he's been awesome. Man,
Speaker 2: Like he don't have to win another game and it's
Speaker 2: been a major success. He has put them on the map.
Speaker 2: He will recruit that place. I don't know, if you've
Speaker 2: been to Colorado, it's beautiful, the facilities, Like he can
Speaker 2: win there because they're going to the Big twelve now,
Speaker 2: We'll see if he stays a couple of years. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been great man, great for college football. His son
Speaker 2: is a star. Like it's awesome.
Speaker 1: We we I mean, you guys originated this is the
Speaker 1: Bush push once once in for Are they out this
Speaker 1: you think so?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. It's I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should. But with the way the
Speaker 1: league's going right now, because a lot of guys can
Speaker 1: get hurt, the league is going soft. Dude, you can
Speaker 1: get hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the league is, dude. Matt Shaw had a Liz
Speaker 2: Frank doing a QB sneak. Albert Hainsworth landed on his foot.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that was then I ended up starting this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they're injuries and all. I just I just
Speaker 2: think there's too many people that hate I just think
Speaker 2: from a competition standpoint, I see nothing wrong with it. Like, dude,
Speaker 2: it's a it's they're saying it's not a football play.
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably the original football play exactly stop
Speaker 2: literally the first play that they probably ran it. Dude,
Speaker 2: it is. It is just I love it because it's
Speaker 2: the major Just fu, you know it's coming and you
Speaker 2: can't stop us. For two yards. They've been they've been
Speaker 2: stopped a couple of times. He basically said, it's like
Speaker 2: playing like first to nine every time because they know
Speaker 2: they can get a yard every time. Plus Jalen Hurst
Speaker 2: just dude, they got a great a lot. They just
Speaker 2: they just perfected it. You see other teams doing it
Speaker 2: and they can't do it. No, let's go to store
Speaker 2: this game. We have this segment where we score it.
Speaker 2: We have any leftover questions, Kyler.
Speaker 5: I missed a couple of stuff. So Notre Dame and
Speaker 5: USC is a long story rivalry they played for the
Speaker 5: Jeweled Chile. It started in nineteen twenty six, The Jewels Chile.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's like an.
Speaker 2: Irish clan or something. Did you ever use it?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I had it on the show last week because I'd
Speaker 2: address up as a Leprechaun. I saw that. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I was embarrassing. You're too told to be a leprecaun.
Speaker 2: It just made me feel ugly. Man. I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. And by the way we did the whole
Speaker 2: a block in that thing, I was like, I didn't
Speaker 2: realize I had a talk in that. I was loud.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I can't. I can't be serious
Speaker 2: right now, we're in this Halloween costume. Anyways, how the
Speaker 2: fuck do you guys lose that game? I mean, did
Speaker 2: you watch it? Yeah? I did. They got their ass kicked.
Speaker 5: And then the origin of the Notre Dame USC rivalry
Speaker 5: is recounted as a conversation between wives from Notre Dame's
Speaker 5: head coach Nut Rockney in USC athletic director Gwyn Wilson
Speaker 5: and the Notre Dame leads the overall series forty nine
Speaker 5: to thirty seven and five.
Speaker 2: Did you know they've won eighteen national championships? Is it eighteen?
Speaker 5: And they don't even count half of them? There's shit
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I saw when I was walking on the stadium. I
Speaker 2: saw him all the banners. I'm like, damn.
Speaker 5: And then the fog. I fucked up on the fog self.
Speaker 5: Check here. The fog was in two thousand and five
Speaker 5: Supernatural Heart. I said, Steph King, it's not as a
Speaker 5: remake of John Carver's nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: Film The FuG Sorry, no one, No one watched them?
Speaker 5: And then what yeah? And then one last little nugget.
Speaker 5: Colt Brennan's career stats at Hawaii played for three years.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me, let me try one hundred and
Speaker 2: all like twenty touchdowns, one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 5: One thirty one crazy forty two interceptions, and then he
Speaker 5: threw for fourteen thousand and ninety three yards.
Speaker 2: I remember he seen one all time or is it
Speaker 2: what's his name?
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's some Texas tech.
Speaker 2: It's a heat knows, it's a case Keenum, I think
Speaker 2: is all time.
Speaker 1: Who is the guy that followed him too? There was
Speaker 1: like a Asian quarterback he.
Speaker 5: Was before before he was two before Tommy Ki Chang, Timmy.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Chankuls Slamy because you'd be I think he's the
Speaker 2: head coach there now is dude. So my first we played,
Speaker 2: we had a home and home with them, and my
Speaker 2: first year it was or no. We played in like
Speaker 2: three years, three or four years, he can't. Hawaii came
Speaker 2: to us and Timmy was a quarterback and he just dude.
Speaker 2: It was the run and shoot dude. He would just
Speaker 2: sling it.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: He could play. So he was almost good that like
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. I think he was like when that high
Speaker 2: school was just sending guys out.
Speaker 5: Timmy Chang is the head coach of Hawaii right now,
Speaker 5: he's the second all time in passing yards. It's seventeen
Speaker 5: thousand in case games first with Kasey.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, we'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 2: So let's score this game.
Speaker 1: We have this whole segmenta one out of ten.
Speaker 2: Name of the game is the bush push or the
Speaker 2: the bush push game? Bush pushes, Bush push, Bush push?
Speaker 1: All right, so it's just the bush push stakes of
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: Zero to ten, oh decimal is okay?
Speaker 5: Twenty seven game win streak.
Speaker 2: I would say I would say ten because as if
Speaker 2: we lose, we're not in the national Championship game because
Speaker 2: that was the BCS era, so we probably every time
Speaker 2: we could every you could probably look it up, but
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of teams maybe that finished
Speaker 2: undefeated that year, so we would have been out. So, uh,
Speaker 2: losing your arrival kept us out of the BCS title
Speaker 2: game third and no one had ever won a third championship.
Speaker 5: Star power, Marcus Allen Ronnie's.
Speaker 2: Star power are we doing overall overall the whole thing
Speaker 2: and of the game or history, because you're saying, oh,
Speaker 2: in attendance.
Speaker 5: In attendance, Marcus Allen and Ronnie Lott were there also
Speaker 5: Tim Brown and Joe.
Speaker 2: Ship that In that case, I mean, you gotta go ten.
Speaker 2: You got you got, well, dude, you got before Tommy.
Speaker 2: You got the greatest quarterback of all time. You got
Speaker 2: Tim Brown Heisman, troph in college. Well, Tom is the
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback of all time. I'm just saying before Joe
Speaker 2: Montana was the greatest court back of all time until
Speaker 2: Tom took over. But you got oh yeah, no, dude, dude,
Speaker 2: Tom about Tom's ago. Tom and Joe were the goat
Speaker 2: Joe greatest one. Top two greatest quarterbacks of all time,
Speaker 2: Tim Brown Heisman, Marcus Heisman. Ronnie Lott one of the
Speaker 2: best defensive players ever, if not the best. You could
Speaker 2: largue talk never play in this era. Top three one.
Speaker 2: You couldn't cover anybody, no, because he would.
Speaker 1: They just they're they're suspending guys for four plays on
Speaker 1: not even the hardest hit.
Speaker 2: That Ronnie Lott does. He even have a ring finger, dude,
Speaker 2: he just he got that different game chopped off when
Speaker 2: he played. It's a different game. I loved Ronny Lott
Speaker 2: was so good. It was a gameplay of this zero
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you were probably. Yeah. Gameplay, game play,
Speaker 2: I'd give it a six now I give it a five.
Speaker 2: It was a terrible game.
Speaker 5: Five yeah, but that fourth quarter final draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's two minutes. The whole game was terrible.
Speaker 2: The name Bush Push, that's a ten. That's such a
Speaker 2: great game. It is not a great name. It's a
Speaker 2: great name. He could like that name could mean a
Speaker 2: lot of different things.
Speaker 1: I'm I've been currently thirty five out of have a
Speaker 1: first grader. So my daughter's into this huge rhyming, so
Speaker 1: Bush Push.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're teaching her. It's good. Eight seven five Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that's a big it's a big game. Eight seven. I
Speaker 2: just think the gameplay was just overrated. People think it's
Speaker 2: like like the Texas game. I'd give that a ten
Speaker 2: or nine.
Speaker 5: But that so with eight point seventy five in our
Speaker 5: in our so far, in our totals, it ties with
Speaker 5: the nineteen ninety nine Women's World Cup final USA versus China's.
Speaker 2: Is that not higher?
Speaker 5: You're you're you're you're tapping a nerve here. Our scoring
Speaker 5: system is fucking bullshit and it needs to be completely
Speaker 5: Look at number one.
Speaker 2: Way Mavericks Mavericks, Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 5: Cube Market came here and just gave everything ten.
Speaker 2: There's a lot. You had someone come in for each
Speaker 2: one of these. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: this game is a wheelchair game. What a joke, Paul Pierce?
Speaker 2: I mean, did he sho his pants? Did he not?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's right up there with did he come in?
Speaker 2: We zoomed him in? He zoomed him in. That was
Speaker 2: probably pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was smoking Huka the whole time
Speaker 1: in his backyard with pool.
Speaker 2: You guys got some good It's pretty It's a pretty
Speaker 2: diverse list here though. Yeah, so we got some stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this is right up there with it man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this game is nestled in ties with Women's
Speaker 5: World Cup, just below the Ironman, Matchean Michael's and bred
Speaker 5: Haart ridiculous, and just above the twenty to three Super
Speaker 5: Bowl Patriots Falcons.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about your catch? It was a lucky catch, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it was fucking awesome. I was watching that ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, you knew, did you know? Did you
Speaker 2: think you knew? You always know? He was this much dude? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I was under it felt he felt that you felt.
Speaker 1: You know, you you know, just like in Kansas City
Speaker 1: to get there or that was the next one. Remember
Speaker 1: were the punt that almost touched me? And touch me either,
Speaker 1: But that catch was, dude, that was the catch. It
Speaker 1: was a good catch, but it was it was a
Speaker 1: lucky catch, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my throw fourth and nine was I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: one inch the other way. It's incomplete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a product of you making that throw
Speaker 1: so many times. Yeah, that catches, just that bounce you
Speaker 1: just read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a product.
Speaker 1: I used to do these reaction drills every day.
Speaker 2: Did you get a truck? No, that was the first
Speaker 2: year they didn't give. Did you go to Disney World? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That cool. Disney World twice. It was awesome against Seahawks
Speaker 2: and then for this one, and then you get you
Speaker 2: get a nice little bonus for Super Bowl MVP. Huh.
Speaker 1: I think you get like fifty grand really thing crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't give you ship.
Speaker 1: That's like what you get for going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You get the bonus if you win the whole Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: When oh, you get a hundred or something, you get
Speaker 1: a total because you went up every every game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could get a total of like two ten or something,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of money. Don't get me wrong
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. But if you think about
Speaker 1: your salary, what you're you get paid weekly for regular season,
Speaker 1: you're you're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pay cut. But I love because the
Speaker 2: year we went to Super Bowl, it was awesome, man,
Speaker 2: because the whole you know, like the practice squad, everybody
Speaker 2: got the same check, which is cool. You know, so
Speaker 2: those guys made one hundred grand, you know, Yeah that
Speaker 2: was cool. Man. Did we miss need thing? You got
Speaker 2: anything to plug what we got? Good? Dude, it's fucking
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be here with you. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: happy you're here too. You got come more. We should
Speaker 2: we should talk. Like the last time I saw you
Speaker 2: were just chawing with the wife beater on and Can. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did go to Can with the white beater on.
Speaker 2: It's a wife pleaser. I'll ever forget that, dude. Or
Speaker 2: were you the hotel you're the hotel lobby? Did he
Speaker 2: tell you the story? We're in France this summer and
Speaker 2: we rode out together and all that, and I'm walking
Speaker 2: and it's like this five star and he's with all
Speaker 2: his boys and he is just rocking a lipper with
Speaker 2: a wife beater and is whatever whatever, you don't know,
Speaker 2: brown pants or whatever. And I'm just like, only you
Speaker 2: would rock that ship right here and look good to you?
Speaker 2: Look good? You look like you could still play. See
Speaker 2: what are you run? What are you running right now?
Speaker 2: Not fast? What did you do? What were you? What
Speaker 2: were you like a four or five? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 2: I mean you were, I mean you were, you were quick,
Speaker 2: and now you were it was more explosive. Yeah, explosive my.
Speaker 1: Best, Like when I ran it was four four eight,
Speaker 1: but they did give you to call you a four
Speaker 1: or five guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you three cone though, was probably fastest eight nine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was my stuff. But you know, I think the
Speaker 2: three cone, I mean, what are we doing? That's I
Speaker 2: don't know, that's what they you know, I know, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like who cares? Yeah, what receivers came out
Speaker 2: when you came out? Oh, grab tree? Grab tree?
Speaker 1: He was said, was on the Rookie Symposium bus.
Speaker 2: Really he had like five phones and like six chains
Speaker 2: and he so that was so he was top five,
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was up there no one else
Speaker 2: in that year. That's all I remember. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I got a look, I mean he had. He was good.
Speaker 2: Who was it to leave that pulled his chain off? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so that was so tight.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: Darius Hayward bay d HB. Yeah, Jeremy Macklin.
Speaker 2: Macklin Percy was a beast. Percy was there too. I
Speaker 2: forgot Urban talks about Percy like he was.
Speaker 1: Everyone that played with him he was the best football Yeah.
Speaker 2: They played Urban like because when we had Reggie, Urban
Speaker 2: always said like that was my Reggie. Like he was
Speaker 2: just he was a great football player's dog. Dude. He
Speaker 2: just had a lot of issues, but explosive, tough at
Speaker 2: ship line, just could do anything.
Speaker 5: Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace, there was a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I remember you had the best career. All of them
Speaker 2: were you were you drafted, but seventh, seventh, seventh as
Speaker 2: a quarterback. It's a crazy story. Man. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: to have you come back on. I appreciate you, bro, Dude,
Speaker 2: you're kicking me out already. I'm just gonna start. Let's
Speaker 2: just go. I want to just come back on and
Speaker 2: just talk life with you, dude. Just talk. We could
Speaker 2: talk like we could talk. We could talk to Texas
Speaker 2: game if you want, if you get McConaughey. Dude, I'm coming.
Speaker 2: You heard it here, folks.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna clip this and use you to get
Speaker 5: McConaughey to come on. Magic.
Speaker 2: We should get you know, you should get Farrell McConaughey, me,
Speaker 2: Vince Faraholl McConaughey on the couch.
Speaker 1: That would be would just they would do it, they would,
Speaker 1: they would do it for sure. I'll just throw a
Speaker 1: fucking I feel like they just did something they didn't do.
Speaker 1: Games with names, though, by games with names.
Speaker 5: Make it soop talg on soon though, huh Snoop dog.
Speaker 2: Soon gas Man, he's the best.
Speaker 1: Anytime he used to come out to Boss, he had
Speaker 1: like a residency in Boston, and so anytime you would
Speaker 1: come and go, hey, I get a text from one
Speaker 1: of his guys.
Speaker 2: I think it's white keV.
Speaker 1: And uh, he goes hey nephew, Hey, nephew, can I
Speaker 1: use your spot before I go have to go out.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, hell Brownstone in Boston, we have
Speaker 2: the whole gang there. You getting my body worked on.
Speaker 2: We got a game and Snoop he's but we'll get
Speaker 2: you next time. That's good man, Thanks for having men.
Speaker 1: That was a crazy episode.
Speaker 4: Glad. I wouldn't hear for the interview because I'm had
Speaker 4: to dove across his table. And Gradi, you.
Speaker 1: Have been the dude after the judge. I would have
Speaker 1: been the guy after Brian Dawkans the judge. I don't
Speaker 1: know when this came out. You guys have seen the meme.
Speaker 4: Bro That is top five for me most painful sports loss.
Speaker 4: I still remember I was sitting at the bar of
Speaker 4: a Brick's Pizza with my dad watching on the little
Speaker 4: TV above the bar, like just pound in the bar,
Speaker 4: like you push them out.
Speaker 2: Charlie.
Speaker 4: I wanted Charlie to get that win man, Old Charlie,
Speaker 4: Old Charlie man Man him and Pete Carroll wearing the
Speaker 4: big pleated khakis. That was a great era, my god,
Speaker 4: how like because he wore.
Speaker 5: The pants like how the old people are actually on
Speaker 5: their waist right, Like what is that number there?
Speaker 1: Like a sixty's it's gotta be up there.
Speaker 4: That was a lot of Khaki material, but.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I don't want to know what was going on there.
Speaker 1: But I love Charlie. That's called the dick do belly.
Speaker 1: So when your belly go further than your dick do.
Speaker 2: Yeo oh man.
Speaker 5: The real takeaway from this is that we have to
Speaker 5: do obviously the techs usc national. I know, we've already
Speaker 5: got Reggie on, We've got matt On. We just got
Speaker 5: to get either Vince or Matthew. Once we get one
Speaker 5: of those dudes in the studio, Reggie or matt will
Speaker 5: be here in a second. And that's gonna be What
Speaker 5: about coming, It's coming. We got to work on it,
Speaker 5: but it's coming.
Speaker 1: That's hopefully coming. But what about all the other names
Speaker 1: that were just it was like a pro grown out there, Clay, Matthews,
Speaker 1: Linda why he loved Lindell. Lindell was was an he
Speaker 1: had a little uh he.
Speaker 5: Had like like I mean we looked at it like
Speaker 5: twenty something touchdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He was just straight thunder and you know what, he
Speaker 5: had an okay career with the Titans. No, he was
Speaker 5: a little bit yeah. I mean Norm Chow was the OC.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, shout out Norm Chow.
Speaker 5: Oh, let's get to the let's get to these fan questions.
Speaker 1: Let's get to these fan questions.
Speaker 7: Jo, my name is Mason Whiteley. I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio,
Speaker 7: and uh, I just had a quick question for you.
Speaker 7: Me and my best friend roommate are in a pre
Speaker 7: over the last month. Who's better Darrel Revis or pac
Speaker 7: Man Jones?
Speaker 1: All right, tex Yo, I love pack, I love pac Man.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable football player played for a long time. Unbelievable punt
Speaker 1: returner West Virginia, West Virginia. Darrell res is generational, great.
Speaker 4: Revis island baby that can make it ring though.
Speaker 2: Dude, I've kicked him. Hey, make it right. We used
Speaker 2: to have all these Bengal formations and stuff.
Speaker 1: I've told this story.
Speaker 2: We always remembered if the F would all the way
Speaker 2: be all the way in the three by one, and
Speaker 2: we always remembered it by.
Speaker 1: You know, he he's in jail. So Bengal, the F
Speaker 1: is in jail.
Speaker 4: I forgot about it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I brought that with pac Man, bro, but also to
Speaker 2: pac Man.
Speaker 5: He was early on hating Adele right there. He's early
Speaker 5: beef on that right now, we all do.
Speaker 1: But like he was, pac Man just ran four Like
Speaker 1: right now, if if you put him on a field,
Speaker 1: pac Man's better than Durow.
Speaker 2: I've seen Dureau my eating good. He's living.
Speaker 1: Pac Man just ran four five geez bro he ran
Speaker 1: four or five on something on the internet, didn't he.
Speaker 1: I gotta look that up fast man, and we we
Speaker 1: pack got it. We used to get into scuffles revis Yeah,
Speaker 1: no he was. He was a blanket man.
Speaker 4: Whole side of the field is taken away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just says you take him all day. I
Speaker 1: also liked the I also liked the idea of like
Speaker 1: different players though, yes, different players.
Speaker 4: Interesting debate. I was going to say, this is very
Speaker 4: insightful into this relationship.
Speaker 2: But if you're going straight corner right.
Speaker 5: A little wrinkle here. This is a backyard brawl. Oh,
Speaker 5: West Virginia Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Wow, it gets deeper.
Speaker 5: I like these joy No, but they're the colleges are
Speaker 5: a big rivalry.
Speaker 1: I like, that's what you got to take from this.
Speaker 1: That goddamn conference got some some ballplayers'.
Speaker 4: Biggi's ball players.
Speaker 5: Maybe that was Yeah, it was close.
Speaker 4: I like imagining these guys like ones making his pop
Speaker 4: tart in.
Speaker 1: The morning, pack mans eight pack too. He showed it
Speaker 1: to me, and when I went and did all the
Speaker 1: smoke or something, I didn want to those you know
Speaker 1: what I do? Which one?
Speaker 4: Uh it was with with the marsh I'm a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like imagining these guys like making making their pop
Speaker 4: tarts in the morning. The other guy comes out of
Speaker 4: the room, He's like, Darrell Reeves is better because it
Speaker 4: just goes on.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I.
Speaker 5: Have to suspect that the roommate went to West Virginia
Speaker 5: or is from West Virginia or from Cincinnati, because that's
Speaker 5: the only way this curious argument.
Speaker 1: All right, next one, Thanks Mason for the question.
Speaker 8: Yes, I need a little positivity for the Atlanta top
Speaker 8: and because there ain't been done twenty eight three, can
Speaker 8: you give me a little advice here?
Speaker 5: I'd appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's my advice. You go down to write aid,
Speaker 1: you get a bottle of a leave, you take to
Speaker 1: a leave, then you go take a walk and just
Speaker 1: start thinking because it ain't changing any time soon. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's no prescription for this. You know, as a Patriots
Speaker 1: fan right now, I'm going through the same thing. These
Speaker 1: are things you have to go through when you are
Speaker 1: a fan of an NFL team that doesn't have a quarterback. So, buddy,
Speaker 1: placebo effect it. Go get a couple leave, won't kill you.
Speaker 1: Maybe give you an ulcer if you take too many,
Speaker 1: but take those two a leave, go take a walk,
Speaker 1: and just don't even think about it because it ain't
Speaker 1: changing anytime soon.
Speaker 4: And you know, watch Georgia Games and you got Georgia Games.
Speaker 4: Got Kirby Man, Yeah, Urby'll get you buy on Saturdays.
Speaker 4: Desmond'll let you down on Sundays. But hey, he'd be good.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for my guy. Desmond's all right.
Speaker 2: That's another question, Julian.
Speaker 6: I was wondering, are you ever gonna make any more
Speaker 6: Smoothie Time videos? You know, whether it's with Sugar Shane
Speaker 6: or maybe you want to get Ryan Allen on the show.
Speaker 6: You know, Smoothie Time was great, but I think Burger
Speaker 6: Time was pretty good too. I mean, getting John Bones
Speaker 6: showns again, that would be amazing, especially recent circumstances.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, this we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do something.
Speaker 4: The people are asking, the streets are talking.
Speaker 1: You know, old Burger Time, Smoothie Time, Sugar Shade is Everen.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna en nickname.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. Ryan Allen, I actually
Speaker 2: have to send him.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think I may have take
Speaker 1: taken his locker because I have like all his baby pictures.
Speaker 1: I got a pair of flip flops that are like
Speaker 1: I think they say, Ryan Allen, I got a bunch
Speaker 1: of his ship. Ryan. I'm gonna send you a care package.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you a minute now. You've got a
Speaker 1: couple of kids like it, Bones Jones right now, We're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep that in it.
Speaker 5: We'll leave it there. I think from the practical standpoint,
Speaker 5: the way we get smoothie time, you know, rebooted is
Speaker 5: you know, where's athletic Greens, Where's where's to mix, Where's
Speaker 5: we're some brands, you know, we're we're all nah f.
Speaker 2: That man, f that the brands. Just do it for
Speaker 2: maybe for the integrity of the art.
Speaker 4: Dog, for all the smoothie makers out there to do
Speaker 4: for all.
Speaker 1: Those smoothie makers and those burger fiends. Just remember this
Speaker 1: old burger craze, everyone grating burgers, doing burgers, smash doing
Speaker 1: that back when you're popping your pimples watching All Home magazine.
Speaker 4: You never even heard of a smash.
Speaker 5: You know what we should do. Here's an idea for
Speaker 5: April fools. Find out what day that is.
Speaker 2: We just Reskin, what day?
Speaker 5: What day of the weekend? Is what day of the
Speaker 5: week it is?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: If it's close enough to tuesdays. Maybe we were skinning
Speaker 5: games with names for a day and we do a
Speaker 5: Burger Time version of games with names Monday before.
Speaker 1: No, dude, I was skinting to try, all right. Next question,
Speaker 1: Next question, Yo, Julian.
Speaker 2: This is Logan from New Jersey.
Speaker 4: If you're the Patriots.
Speaker 7: Manager, what are you doing with this top five pick?
Speaker 1: Are you taking a quarterback?
Speaker 8: Are you taking off a lineman?
Speaker 7: Or you're taking a wide receiver?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Patriot manager? So I'm gonna probably I'm gonna get what's
Speaker 1: his name, Christian Gonzalez. I'm gonna have him lead off.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have.
Speaker 5: I mean, who's clean, Who's who's clean up?
Speaker 2: Who's clean up? It's gotta be Jude.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you got Jude one in the
Speaker 4: cleanup spot.
Speaker 1: Jude gotta go quarterback. You gotta you have no choice.
Speaker 1: Top five, gotta we gotta we gotta get a spark,
Speaker 1: gotta do quarterback. This is quarterback League.
Speaker 5: Jaydon Daniels, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know that, Like I'm a guy like that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys that they say it's
Speaker 1: a rich quarterback draft. I mean they say that all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 5: But JJ McCarthy, Michigan, I don't like any of them.
Speaker 4: You don't like any of them, Jack, I like, I
Speaker 4: like l mints of them, but I don't Cayleb Williams
Speaker 4: doesn't want to play in New England and he's a baby.
Speaker 4: Pannix hurt a million times, Drake May, Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe which one is that?
Speaker 2: This l s U?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's got the skill sets, but maybe I
Speaker 5: don't know. I like Drake May. I just feel like
Speaker 5: he's got that Josh Allen in him.
Speaker 4: He's got a little bit of that Trubisky in him.
Speaker 1: Or Sam How It's gonna be funny watching all these
Speaker 1: guys leave. They're gonna be all going top ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how the hype goes. Hold on, let's do one.
Speaker 1: Let's do two quick ones, rock Share, let's wrap these
Speaker 1: up one more here.
Speaker 7: Alright, Calling in from North Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 6: My question is if Vince set on Jack McCarthy, how
Speaker 6: long or how many seconds would he stay alive?
Speaker 4: Love, that's my boy, ed.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 4: I'm tapping out so fast. I am tapping out and undertake.
Speaker 5: It's not about tap out. It's not up to you.
Speaker 1: Oh true.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this like how is he sitting on him?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like big raki, I think maybe like two
Speaker 1: minutes you might be done minutes long. I think I'm
Speaker 1: pulling for you.
Speaker 2: I just think, I think, I just I.
Speaker 4: Just pictured the scene in Billy Madison where Principal Anderson
Speaker 4: was when he was playing the Revolting Blob and he's
Speaker 4: like he was supposed to pinch my leg if he
Speaker 4: was running short of air when he killed that guy
Speaker 4: in the ring.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what you should do. I think
Speaker 1: of it as you're like, uh, terminator to the liquid guy.
Speaker 1: You just kind of figure away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those were fun. Those were fun. Well what an episode.
Speaker 1: Thanks him, Old Maddie Matt Lioner for coming on. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see his son. Son's a stud beast
Speaker 1: and he's like seven feet two. We're gonna have him
Speaker 1: on a Games with Names hell ya And that's been
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