1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Like, that's literally its job, right. It's not to look airbrushed. 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: My skin is holding in my guts and my heart 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: and my bones and my muscles. It's doing a really 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: good job because I'm literally alive. Hey, y'all, Happy Monday. 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: That is, if you're listening on a Monday. I'm Cat 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and I'm the host of You Need Therapy. There are 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: a couple of things we need to go over really 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: quickly before we get started. 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You'll get 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: an email with a little letter from me and then 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: a link to the episode. We'll also announce um special 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: things through that newsletter as well. Speaking of the website, 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: remember that we have a store with some really cute stuff, 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: some mugs, some really cute t shirts, stickers, pins, all 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: that good stuff, so make sure to go check that out. 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I also have a resource list on my website with 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot of my favorite books. If you guys wanted 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: to dive deeper into some of the stuff that we 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: talk about. I have the books um separated by subject, 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: so go ahead and check that out. Now this week 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: we have a really a fun episode. I have my 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: own aesthetician, Hannah Ellis on to talk about some skin stuff. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: And basically we both noticed that whenever I would go in, 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: we would just talk about our lives. And then obviously 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: my job came up and body image and all this stuff, 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: and she has some really insightful things to stay and 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: so we decided for her to come on the show 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: to talk about some of that stuff and skin and 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: what healthy skin is. She's really awesome. She's really, really, really, 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: really smart, and she knows a lot about the skin 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: and what certain things do for the skin and what 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: you need and what's really going on. I really respect 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: her and what she does and value her expertise. So today, 61 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to say is just a starting block, because 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: we noticed very soon that we could go deep into 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: so much stuff, and so today is more of an 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: introduction of Hannah Um and kind of the stuff we've 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: been talking about. And in the future we're going to 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: have her back to go deeper in some other things. 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that you had her info, 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: um right from the beginning. So Hannah Ellis is her name, 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: and she is on Instagram at the Nashville Estetician. Estetician 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: is spelled A E S T H E T I 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: C I A N. That's long and hard. I hope 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I did that right, UM. And then her email is 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Hannah Lls Skincare at i cloud dot com if you 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: want to get in touch with her and you live 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville. After UM, you listen to her talk on 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: the show. She has someone who, um doesn't believe in 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: perfect skin, but healthy skin, and that everybody should have 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: the right and the ability to have healthy skin. And 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I just love everything she has to say, and I'm 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: excited for you guys to hear from her. So I'm 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: not going to waste any time. Here is my conversation 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: with Hannah. We are here with Hannah Ellis at the 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Nashville Estetician, which esteticition is a very hard word to say, yes, 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: and it's spelled differently across all states. So what do 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: you mean it's spelled yeah, it is okay, So like 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: you know how you're UM, you have like a board 87 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: your you get licensed within, like the state of Tennessee. 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm licensed within the state of Tennessee. Tennessee spells a 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: seticition on our license like A E S T H E. 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna with an A. And then in 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: other states it's spelled just with an eat, which would 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: just be a lot easier in life. But in Tennessee, 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm an esthetician spelled within the beginning? Where did they 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: spell it with any? California trying to think like it's 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: really confusing for people. Yeah, I'm like, hey, like just 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: follow me the Nashville inestetician and they can't trying to 97 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: do it with any We'll put it in the notes 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: so you guys can just go click on it. Yeah 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: we love a link. Yeah, well I do love a link. Okay, 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: So I met Hannah because I was recommended to go 101 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: see you because I told myself that I was going 102 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: to actually take care of my skin. Because I don't 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: know if I told you this, but I've for the 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: past like a couple of years, I've been washing my 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: face with the makeup. What wait, did you rinse after well? 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: So in the morning I would wash my face with 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: like face wash, and then I would put a stringe 108 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: in on it. What's a stringent? What do you um? Like? Hazel? No, 109 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: like the clean and clear. It's like basically putting alcohole. 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Mike is not picking up the fact that my eyes 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: are like big right now. So I would do that 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: at night. I would just do a makeup wipe and 113 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: then the stringent. It was not I mean, it wasn't great. 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't great. It wasn't great. It was great. And 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: in my in my past, I've had really bad skin 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: and I had acne in high school and then it 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: came back. I don't know if I came back in 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: college or after college, but I went on accutane twice, 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: which is something that probably people shouldn't shouldn't do. Accutane 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: is really intense for like grade three, four or five acne, 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: that's between you and your doctor. I always say like 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: it should be the last resource, but a lot of 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: people don't. They just jumped straight to because I want 124 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: to take pass. So I told myself in December, I 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: wasn't taking my skin, and then I didn't and I 126 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: didn't and I didn't. So I went and I met 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: you um and in the facial the first DAGH I got, 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I was like, one, this is great because I you 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: talk to me the whole time and you told me 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: everything you're putting on my face, what it was doing. 131 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, like, she's so smart and I 132 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of these words mean, but I 133 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: really trust her. But I'll do whatever you say. But 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: we talked about how like usually when I get a facial, 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know everybody's experience, but I would go in, 136 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: they would like rubbed stuff on my face and then 137 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I would leave and multiple times because I'm like my 138 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: friends call me the like ideal consumer, because I'm just 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: like tell me what to buy and I'll buy it. 140 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't need an explanation. But if I'm going to 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: you for help, I'm gonna trust that you're going to 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: recommend something. And I probably should not be so trusting, 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: but I am. And in the past I've asked people 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: what should I buy? What do I need? And it 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: was very confusing. It was like, oh, you could get 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: this gift set that we have. One time somebody like 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: asking like Sephoras, Okay, she recommended what I liked the stuff, 148 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was like for my face, 149 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: it was like they were nice products. And then another 150 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: person I went to should get wrote this big long 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: list of stuff and then like walked away, and I 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what order to put this in. 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what is actually important. And then so 154 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I ended up buying like a hundred dollar bottle of 155 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: a serum and then it broke my face out like you, 156 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: and you explained everything what it was doing, and then 157 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you also were like text me if you have questions 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: and if something happens, because I was like, I'm just 159 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: afraid my face is going to break out from a 160 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: facial because it does essentially right, So that's normal. Um, 161 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: breaking out after a facial could be it should be quick, short, healthy, healthy, 162 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: is it because we've resurfaced some stuff. Um, it should 163 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: not be like, oh I got this huge purge and 164 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: like now I have out of control breakout for the 165 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: next month until I see an a setition. Again. Shouldn't 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: be like that if you do get like one pimple 167 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: like or two or three like even whatever, But you 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be afraid to get a facial because you're like, well, 169 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to break after. That's like not how it 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: goes right now that you've seen so, but you said 171 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: like if something happens, that shouldn't happen, so let me know. 172 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: So it was just a very different experience. So one 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: this is my plug that people should go visit you 174 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: if they live in Nashville or they can fly here 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: to you. So through that every session, except the one 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: where my face was tight that I couldn't move my mouth, 177 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: we've talked the whole time. But we've talked not just 178 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: about when I'm just waiting there with the mask in 179 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: my face, about ourselves and body image and what I 180 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: what I do came up. And so she's here today, 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: and what I will probably say is she'll be here 182 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: multiple times because I know a lot of people are 183 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna It's a lot, yes, a lot. Agin is a 184 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: big thing right now, and I want you to tell 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: us basically in your view, what you do and why 186 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: you do it, and then we'll move into some some 187 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: other stuff. Well. Also, I feel like you just like 188 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: touched on so much, like on your experience with other 189 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: um facials and treatments and home care regimens. It's so 190 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: confusing out there. It's such a big market and I've 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of settled with saying things like, and this isn't 192 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: true of like every esthetician or everything in the skin industry, 193 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: but I do feel like the market is confusing on 194 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: purpose to keep people buying, and I feel like a 195 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: lot of my clients are victims of that mentality or 196 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: that um kind of a market where it's like, I 197 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: don't know, do we really want to fix people's skin? 198 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Do we really are we really aiming for healthy skin? 199 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Or are we like going from one cute packaging to 200 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the next cute packaging from one esthetician who says she 201 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: has the best treatment to the other esthetician who says 202 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: he has the best treatment, and we really don't know 203 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: what we're doing. I've posted before about like mystery facials. 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: I call them steaming creams because it's so weird, Like 205 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: why unless you're just trying to relax and have some 206 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: nice massage, that's like a great thing, and massage is 207 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: beautiful and hands on faces can be very powerful and 208 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: make create a lot of change. That's awesome too. It's 209 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: just that when you're not educating the client at the 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: same time, you're leaving them and perpetuating this entire cycle 211 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: of not having autonomy over your own body, and you 212 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: came here for a certain result, but you put the 213 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: power in the hands of the professional, just like we 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: do to doctors. We go when we're sick, where we 215 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: go when we have a problem um and then we 216 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: don't really do any research on our behalf, or maybe 217 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: we've done so much research that we've like self diagnosed. 218 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: That's also like a whole other swing of the Pendulum'm 219 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: so sorry, but people are showing up and they're like here, 220 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: and then nobody really treats them, educates them, and then 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: maybe you leave with three or four products that you 222 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: really don't know what they're doing, and that doesn't really 223 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: keep you motivated to use them, and you probably won't 224 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: get results from that because that process does not work 225 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: for people. And what you prescribe for one person can't 226 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: be what you prescribe for everybody. Literally never would ever 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: makes sense. Definitely not my custom facials. I'm just gonna 228 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: like brag on myself, like you can get like medical 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: grade results, real results, real education, and like leave alec 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: blissed as fun. Can we swear on your cool You 231 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: should leave like almost like drunk and like overwhelmed with 232 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the information you just got and also empowered that you're like, 233 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: this is why I'm going to use this cleanser at 234 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: this serum and then this uh missed or this cream 235 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: or something like, I know why I'm using it, and 236 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: that's going to motivate me to like stick it out 237 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: for the long haul because it could take three to 238 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: four months to see results. Like you're not going to 239 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: see a result in a week or whatever, but you 240 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: should know why I gave you this, what it's doing, 241 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: and that's going to keep you motivated to use it 242 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: so you can get results, because really it's all about consistency. 243 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: The one thing that I which was something that you 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, and it's something that I went 245 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: in and I said this, it's I when and I 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: you're asking about my skin and I said, well, I 247 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: also have like all these like black heads and on 248 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: my nose and I want you to get rid of them. 249 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: And then do you remember this, but this is so 250 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: common good And then when you started looking at my 251 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: skin one when I did take my mask off, you 252 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: were like, your skin is not that bad, and I 253 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, that felt really good. But also I 254 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think that are you just being nice? 255 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: And then you were like, by the way, these aren't 256 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: black heads on your remember what I called them? You 257 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: don't have blackheads? No? I mean yes, there are poorrors there. 258 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: So black heads are like a very open poor. It's black, 259 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: it's oxidized like dirt and like hard material, kind of 260 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: like sitting in the poor. Everybody can get a black head. 261 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: It's totally normal. Um, but a lot of people are 262 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: zooming way into the mirror right now and they are 263 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: they're seeing like little gray dots everywhere. You can see 264 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: it on your chin, you can see it on your 265 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: like teezone, between your brows, and then on the tips 266 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: and side of your nose. That is called a sebaceous filament. 267 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: And it's honestly just oil in the poor. And you're 268 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: not dirty, You're not This isn't bad. These are able 269 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: to be extracted. I don't recommend you do that at home, 270 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: but there's obviously like your skin can be like holding 271 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: onto oil in a way that it's not coming to 272 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the service. Again, I could go off about like how 273 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: to properly hydrate, how to properly properly exfoliate, how can 274 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: we reduce the look of seeing what is inside the 275 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: poor That's what a sebacious filament is is you're just 276 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: seeing what's in the poor um. But ultimately it's not 277 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: a black head and I could extract all of them. 278 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: They'll be back there in two days. Like it's not 279 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: really it's a battle you should not fight. It is 280 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: literally what skin looks like, and it's just a sign 281 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: that your skin is functioning in a certain way. How 282 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: I showed up is I have these I have this 283 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: horrible face, and we need to get rid of this thing. 284 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: And you said, these are just your pores. We and 285 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: you said hashtag normalize spores hash Oh yeah, I think 286 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm always saying that. I'm saying it all the time. Okay, 287 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: so this is just these are just your pores, um, 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: and we should normalize pores hashag normalize spores like all 289 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, And it's but it's hard. So just 290 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: going and I'm just gonna jump into this stuff that Okay, 291 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: when people you say, people come in without a lot, 292 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: that's very common. Well, it's hard. It's really great for 293 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: you to say that. And then we go back into 294 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: the world and like it's funny hashtag normalized spores. But also, yeah, 295 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: I joke about it, but it's really serious because you mean, 296 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: you go on Instagram and there's a like the smooth face. 297 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: There's like twenty tho of them now, like filters where 298 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: like everything looks perfect. And I've actually tried to stop 299 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: using it because I'll go back and look at videos 300 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: in pictures and I'm like, oh my gosh, my skin 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: was so good back then, why doesn't look like that? 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: It didn't like that. Yeah, you're like, I had a 303 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: ZiT that day and I like honestly turned my head 304 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to the left so you couldn't really see it. And 305 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: then also it was a little bit smoother because of 306 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: the filter, and then you're feeling bad about yourself even 307 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: though in that moment that's not what you look like. Yeah, 308 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: So I want you to talk about, like a little bit, 309 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: how you told me that's just your skin, and how 310 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: what you see with clients that come in, and how 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: it feels to be that person on the other side 312 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: who's like, wait, you don't have a problem your skin, 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: this is just your skin. Yeah, it feels really heavy 314 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: after a long day. I can see three or four 315 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: people in a day, depends um During this time with 316 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: COVID and everything. I've seen less people per day just 317 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: to keep things safe. But ultimately you can have a 318 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: full day of clients and probably hear the same thing 319 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, and they're like black 320 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: heads on my nose. I have all these problems. I'm oily, 321 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm shiny, I'm this, I'm that, and I'm like literally 322 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: all these things are like very normal functions of your skin. 323 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Pores are openings of your skin where there's like a 324 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: hair follicle, it secretes oil and water, sweat and sea bum. 325 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: That's those are the same thing, oil, sea bum, water, sweat, um, 326 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: And there's got to be an opening. Like when you 327 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: if you were to say, like I want to get 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: rid of my pores, it's like, uh, well you can't. 329 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: You literally can't. And it's honestly genetic. The size of 330 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: your pores, Like that's just a genetic something that you 331 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: can like shrink for somebody. The poor itself like cannot shrink. 332 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I did mention earlier. You can work on what's inside 333 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: the poor. I'm always telling people um to like you 334 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: can't open and close the pores like they don't do that. 335 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: You can, however, like work on how your skin is functioning. 336 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: If there's oil that's sitting heavy and waxy and the poor, 337 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: then we need to work internally on the quality of 338 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: oil your body is creating by making sure you're getting 339 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of essential fatty acids. Um, we need to 340 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: make sure that if that oil is thin and liquidy, 341 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: it floats because you have a lot of free water 342 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: levels in your skin. Water and oil. Like that's the 343 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: whole combination of your acid mantle and um moisture barrier, 344 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: if that's what you refer to it as. UM. It's 345 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: just that, like I feel like I'm confusing it or 346 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm jumping way ahead, but ultimately, like your skin wants 347 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: to hold onto oil to protect itself when it doesn't 348 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: have enough water. So we need to be drinking water. 349 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: We Okay, that's another thing. This is why it's so crazy. 350 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: Skin is crazy. So we need to be Yeah, sure, 351 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: drink your water. UM, make sure you're hydrated. That's fine, 352 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: But ultimately your organs are going to use that water first, 353 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: and um if they don't, like you're we're not. Um, 354 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: what is it? Like? You know how Liken SpongeBob you 355 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: like drinks a town of water and like blows way 356 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: up like we're not like that, it doesn't go to 357 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: your skin. You can't eat collagen. And then all of 358 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: a sudden, like you like feel your skin being bounced 359 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: here like it really doesn't translated, Um, it really doesn't convert. 360 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: And you're like, it doesn't convert, and like turn into 361 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: the kind of collagen that your skin uses. It can 362 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: probably benefit like the hay and the nails and overall 363 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: is like a source of protein. I believe it's healthy 364 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: for you. So it's probably good for you. Again when 365 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: you're when you're drinking water, when you're taking supplements or 366 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: eating well, your organs are working better when your body 367 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: is functioning properly. Do you think that shows up in 368 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: your skin? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, so yes, like we 369 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: do want to drink water. But ultimately, like when I say, 370 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: like your oil and your skin is like sitting heavy 371 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: and waxy, I mean we need to reassess the way 372 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: you're hydrating your skin topically. We need to pump it 373 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: full of water like externally topically. Um. And you also 374 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: also should address like the quality of oil that your 375 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: body is creating by supplementing with essential fatty acids and 376 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: making sure you're either getting tons of fatty fish in 377 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: your diet, lots of leafy greens, or taking a supplement 378 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: for an essential fatty acid with like ohmega three six 379 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: seven nine, all this stuff, which is so interesting that 380 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: you say that because one I know, for me forever 381 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I thought that, like I could never put moisturizer on 382 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: my skin because it wouldn't make my skin break out. Yeah, 383 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: because I had oily skin, and I was like, I'm 384 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: not putting more oil on there. But also I have 385 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: to think about it's moisture, not straight up oil. Yeah, 386 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: maybe I should back like way up, Like I feel 387 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: like I'm skirting around by trying because we're talking about 388 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: like subacious filaments and black heads and then like breakouts 389 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: and stuff, and then I'm really like trying to talk 390 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: about oil and water, but I haven't actually laid it out. 391 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: So well, let's go back. The first part was what 392 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: is it like when people are coming in saying the 393 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: stuff and You're like, that is I mean, that is 394 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: your skin? That it's not something that we can we 395 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: can get rid of, It's not something that we essentially 396 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: should want to get rid of. I do want to 397 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: talk I want to talk about both of these things. 398 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about, well, how do 399 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: we start to shift conversations and and the way we're 400 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: looking at ourselves in the mirror. And at the other day, 401 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: I was looking at myself in the mirror and my 402 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: friend was like, kath, back away from it was one 403 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: of those magnifying mirrors, and I was like, oh my god. 404 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: And she's like, back away. Nobody is looking at you 405 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: like that, Like nobody's up that close. Was that friend me? 406 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: Because that's what I say all the time, all the time. 407 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: You were probably in her head somewhere. But how do 408 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: you start to change conversations for people? Because it's the 409 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: same thing with just essentially body image. We look at 410 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: ourselves in the mirror and we pick ourselves apart to 411 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: the point where we aren't what we see isn't even 412 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: a body. It's like when you stare at a word 413 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: for so long and then it starts to not even 414 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: look like a word anymore. It's what we do with 415 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: our bodies. We start our bodies for so long and 416 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: then it's not even that we're looking at a body. 417 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: We're just picking things apart. But it's like when you 418 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: look in a mirror and you're staring your face and 419 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've ripped it apart. Essentially, that's 420 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: not helpful, and so how do we start to look 421 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: at ourselves differently. That's a huge issue. Yeah, you did 422 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: mention that it comes up and therapy appointments and they're 423 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: probably like, and my skin is bad, you know, on 424 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: top of all the other ablems in the world. That's 425 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: like a stressful thing on someone's plate, on top of like, 426 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, she have two kids that are like 427 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: running around at her house in the middle of a 428 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: pandemic and just trying to take care of her life 429 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: and like clean the kitchen and get dressed in the 430 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: morning and make sure the dog is fed. And she's 431 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: also like worried and she wants her skin tone to 432 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: be more even like that's so crazy. It's not crazy 433 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: to feel that way. It's crazy that that is something 434 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: that is also weighing so heavily on people's shoulders. Um, 435 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: when people come into my room, I'm like, let me 436 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: take that for you. Like this is why you see 437 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a professional because um not because I will literally pick 438 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: it up for you and like, you know, the way 439 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: it is heavy and I'll carry it for you, but like, 440 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: let me give you a little autonomy over this. Let 441 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: me make you feel like you have some power over 442 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: this and you're not just like a victim of what 443 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: your skin looks like. This is something that we can 444 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: work towards together. And for me, the way to make 445 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: people feel better about their skin is to teach them 446 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: about it and not feel so out of control. And 447 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: for me, I really think it's an out of control problem. 448 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: It's a it's a control issue. People are insecure and 449 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: they've had all these messages from society, from the beauty industry, 450 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: from Instagram, from bloggers, mommy, bloggers, friends, family, all the 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: comments whatever in the world, and they don't know where 452 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: to start, and then they start following like skincare accounts 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: where they start following like someone who like sells some 454 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: skincare MLM or whatever. They're like, I can fix that, 455 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: and you're just like, yeah, Like there's a million things 456 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: that you could do that could fix it, but ultimately 457 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: like finding the right person for you that will help 458 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: bring you along on the journey and also not leave 459 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: you guessing. At the same time, I really find that 460 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: it's motivating and empowering when you help people find autonomy 461 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: in this process. Is that a correct word to use? 462 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Like autonomy? Like that you feel free to be as 463 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: much a part of this as you on. My hope 464 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: is that at some point every client that I have 465 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: doesn't need me anymore, and then I teach them I'm 466 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: not just over here. They come every week with their 467 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: problems and I tell them exactly what to do. Sometimes 468 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: I straddle that line of advice giving, but my real 469 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: hope is for them to be able to figure it 470 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: out after we've gone through something enough times. And for you, 471 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. What you're saying is I don't 472 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: want people to be hanging on my every word and 473 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: need to come see me once a week. I want 474 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: them to come and I can teach them one how 475 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: to normalize what skin is. I can teach them what 476 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: expectations are unrealistic based on society, and what expectations are like, Okay, 477 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: we can do something about this. That's going to help 478 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: make you feel more confident, definitely, but you're going to 479 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: help that area, and then you're also going to teach 480 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: them when you go home, these are the tools that 481 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: you have. I'm going to give you tools to put 482 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: in your toolbox. They're created for you, and you're going 483 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: to understand them and know what they're doing, and you're 484 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna do that on your own, and you can come 485 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: back once a month or every two months or whenever 486 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: to get another. I mean, I think one it is 487 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: your facials are relaxing, but also if there's something else 488 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: that pops up, you can come back, and like, I 489 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: want you to want to come back, but I don't 490 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: want you to need to come see me every week 491 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: because I want you to know what's happening. And a 492 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: lot of times, like you said, the steaming cream is like, 493 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: we don't know what's happening, and you just don't. We 494 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: have not been taught as a society that like getting 495 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: facials is for everyone, that skincare and healthy skin is 496 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: something that can be achieved by everyone. Everyone thinks like 497 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: I want good skin, but I either have to pay 498 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: a million dollars for like laser and all these crazy 499 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: like procedures, and that it's so far out of my 500 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: hands as a consumer that I will never reach or 501 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: be able to have good skin. I personally think it's 502 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: really important that I don't price anybody out of the 503 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: potential to have healthy skin. I would like people to 504 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: know that it's very important that you understand what healthy 505 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: skin is because it's really not that hard to get to, 506 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: like it's really and that is why I do so 507 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: much education, not because I don't want you to come back. 508 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: I mean skin is, You're always going to have it. 509 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: We can work through big issues and imbalances in the skin, 510 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: but you're probably still going to need some extra help 511 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: or some extra strength exfoliating and some good treatments like 512 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: every four to six weeks or or when the season changes. 513 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: Like that's the goal for me, is that I don't 514 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: have you in here every two weeks or so so often. 515 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: That's how you know we're outside of those appointments because 516 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: you either can reach me and ask questions and send 517 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: me weird pictures of your zips so into that um 518 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: or you feel less out of control. Oh my god, 519 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: I got a pimple. And I said this earlier. I 520 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: was like, I want to get my clients to a 521 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: place where they can be comfortably mished. Oh you got 522 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: one or two pimples. Oh you have the tools, like 523 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: in your arsenal, you know what to do. You like, 524 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you have something in your routine that you're like, when 525 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I get a blemish, this is what I do. We 526 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: I we try not to pick, We try not to 527 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: um like go nuclear on the spot. And if it 528 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: starts to feel like it's getting out of control, that's 529 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: when you really booke an appointment, you know what I mean, 530 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: Like you have someone on your in your court that's 531 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: like there, it's just like therapy, Like there's this parallel 532 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: of what you just said, comfortably blemish. And I don't 533 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: take the chaos or the any issues out of people's lives. 534 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: I teach them how to cope and how to deal 535 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: and how to create a life that feels more of 536 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: their own, autonomous. And so what you're doing that same thing. 537 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: And so I think I would like you to express 538 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: or explain what really is healthy skin, because I think 539 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: in our eyes it's your skin is looks like porcelain, 540 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: and that's what healthy skin is. Yeah, And that's like 541 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: no things still like the glass skin movement or like 542 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: the do you remember people were saying like I'm not 543 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: glass skin. I think it was. It's just that it's 544 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: like perfectly like I saw something that's saying love her, 545 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: love this person to death. Downy Lovato posted like a 546 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: a selfie of her glam squad and I was like, 547 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: is that a filter or does her face looked like that? 548 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: It was like, so, I mean beautiful, but I was like, 549 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: how in the world I will never look like that? 550 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: And there was almost just like but then I was like, 551 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: she's a glam squad and I don't remember that, but 552 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: that that's not healthy skin. That's makeup. And so for you, 553 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: what is healthy skin versus glass skin? To me, healthy 554 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: skin is it has like a pink flush, you have 555 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: healthy circulation. Um, it's shiny because your oil is sitting 556 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: on the surface where it's supposed to be protecting your skin. Um, 557 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: it's sitting on the surface because you have so much 558 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: free water level in your skin that you're pumped full 559 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: of water. You're hydrated, and you just look like juicy 560 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: and plump. And now is there a blemish there one 561 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: that's okay? Is there maybe some pigmentation from sun damage 562 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: or do you have molasma from pregnancy? Like that's the 563 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: stuff that we can work on. But like the fact 564 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: that your skin is functioning, it's secreting oils and water. 565 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: It's it might be read in the right places like 566 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: healthy skin to me is just radiant. It should just 567 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: look a little like flush and juicy. It's and I 568 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: can see right through like the botox and the injectibles 569 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: and still know even if you like have wrinkles or whatever, 570 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Like I can still see if your skin is healthy 571 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: or not. It has a lot to do with circulation really, 572 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: like how much is your own blood full of oxygen 573 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: and nutrients, like actually feeding the tissues of your skin. 574 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Like if we're not stimulating that circulation, you could look, 575 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: you could do all of the skincare in the world 576 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: and all the best products, and like your skin could 577 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: not be receiving it because it just doesn't have healthy circulation. 578 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, I could. It's such a loaded Yeah, 579 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: it's a loaded question, Like what is healthy skin for everybody? 580 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: It's really different. But maybe one of the biggest things 581 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: is that healthy skin is slightly consistent, meaning like you 582 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: don't wake up every morning with like a new thing 583 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: that you have a problem with um Like if someone 584 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: who you know has one blemish and then it turns 585 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: into two and then that spreads up their cheeks and 586 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden shows up on their forehead, Like 587 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: now we're out of control. Now there's an imbalance. It's 588 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: like tipped too far one way right, and then I 589 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: can help get you back to that consistent spot where 590 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: you're like, we don't really have a blemish, but maybe 591 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: around your cycle every month and that's like an okay thing. 592 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: Like texture is a good thing. Like you're gonna see 593 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: when the light hits your skin, like you're gonna see 594 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: texture stuff like that perfect skin. It's no, oh my gosh, 595 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not perfect. There is no perfect Like you could 596 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: have healthy skin and still get a blemish. You could 597 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: have healthy skin and still have texture. Um. Honestly, texture 598 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: is a word that came up in skincare I feel 599 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: like fairly recently. It never used to be a thing 600 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: with other from other astheticians that I've spoken to in town, 601 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: They're like, no one used to come in and say 602 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: like I just like, I'm really worried about this texture. 603 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: That used to not be a thing. And in the past, 604 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: like three I feel like three to five years, it's 605 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: been like a thing where people are all of a 606 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: sudden just saying the word texture. I'd like to know 607 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: what people. I actually usually ask him like, what does 608 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: that even mean? What is texture to you? Like? When 609 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: you say the texture is a problem, it's probably because 610 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it is. I would think that because 611 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: in the smooth Instagram filter, that's where a texture, that's 612 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: literally where it came from. I literally saw it was 613 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: like some weird um reel on Instagram for like certain product, 614 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: and a girl like drew a line down half of 615 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: her chin vertically, and on one side she put the 616 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: gel on, and on the other side she had like 617 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of just more um servacious filaments blackhead looking like pores, 618 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: like she's just had pores on her chin, you know 619 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: how humans do. And then on the other side she 620 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: put the jell on, and when she wiped it off, 621 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: it was completely blurred, like softened by face tune, Like 622 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: it was completely like an edit. It was so fake 623 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: looking to me, but I was really alarmed that that 624 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: was something that someone was advertising is a product, and 625 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: that's what a product could ever do to you. It's 626 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: going to like completely blur. I mean it looked like 627 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: the softening effect like on face tune or on um filters, 628 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: where it's just like this doesn't even look like human skin. Well, 629 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: and it was so weird, so crazy. If we've moved 630 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: from this place of exposing what people do to edit 631 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: pictures and magazines. And I remember years ago when this 632 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: one clip came out where they they now they have 633 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: them all the time, but it was a huge deal. 634 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: This was like probably eight years ago. They looked at 635 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: a model they did the backwards of like all the edits, 636 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: and they brought her what she really looks like, and 637 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: she looked completely different. And so we're busting all of this, 638 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: these myths about what we do when we destroy what 639 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: people's bodies look like, and how that affects our body image. 640 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: But we're letting people do it to our faces all day, 641 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: and we're like, you want to look like that, and 642 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: it's not fair for what we're doing is we're moving 643 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: from one thing to the other. Okay, I'm not going 644 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: to scrutinize my body and my cellulate because we're normalizing that, 645 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: and and we'll do that all day. But then I'm 646 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: going to post this picture normalizing my cellulate. But then 647 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna face tune my face. Right, That does makes sense. 648 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: It's very confusing for me and clients that I work 649 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: with when I'm like, oh, these accounts, all these accounts, 650 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, they are great and they're saying this one message, 651 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: but then also kind of like a lie in a 652 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: sense that Okay, well, if we're going to accept our 653 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: bodies for what they are, we have to accept that 654 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: our faces don't look perfect either. And that's the whole 655 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: thing where I was looking back at old videos of 656 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: me on Instagram and it's like, oh my gosh, how 657 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: did I have such good skin? And I have to 658 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: remind myself I didn't even look like that. So if 659 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't even look like me in the videos that 660 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm posting, that's a problem, right, And that's really your 661 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: memory of your stuff. On my wedding day, I had 662 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: two pimples and are they in the photos? No? But 663 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: I had I remember, I had to um pimples, one 664 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: of which I had gone and gotten like a quarter 665 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: zone shot in because I was like so insecure. I 666 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: was like, I'm into skincare and um, like I'm an 667 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: esthetician or whatever, and I am getting married and this 668 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: is like these are my photos, Like what I'm going 669 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: to have a z on my wedding day? How dare I, 670 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: as a human like have a pimple and be a 671 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: professional in skincare and like still and like you know what, 672 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Like, I was just 673 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: really like WHOA. So I went and got a quarter 674 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: zone shot, which is hilarious because it ended up giving 675 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: me like a scar on my chin that I then 676 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: had to work on forever because it was not diluted 677 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: enough and it ate away at the college and underneath 678 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: the spot. Anyway, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't go 679 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: get a quarter zone shot if you have a really 680 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: bad sister. That's what I had, But it's just that 681 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: the doctor didn't um dilute enough and I worked on 682 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: it retinal helped. Anyway. Again, I can get really carried away. 683 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: But everything you just said, I can go off on 684 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: so many tangents because ultimately what I want to do 685 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: is teach, so like I I and I think I 686 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: think that in the future, like we can get to that. 687 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: But ultimately, like my whole method in helping people with 688 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: their skin is first working on that lens with them, 689 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: teaching them this is what healthy skin is. This is 690 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: how the skin actually functions. And if the skin is 691 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: functioning properly in an optimal levels in the factory I 692 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: like to call it, then the product that your skin 693 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: is producing is what you see on the surface. So 694 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: a lot of it is the work that I do 695 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: and the education that I give and bringing you along 696 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: on that journey so that you feel like I'm not 697 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: out of control. I don't need to go looking for 698 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: this account or that account, or looking back through my 699 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: old filtered photos wondering like why I looked so much 700 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: better on this day at that party when I was 701 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: all done up. Then I feel like I do now. 702 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: Then I am like standing in the more in the 703 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: mirror first thing in the morning, right, and it's like 704 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: really working on that lens. And that was surprising to 705 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: me that I ended up in a field thinking I'm 706 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: just going to be like nurturing women and men and 707 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: just like touching faces and popping pimple's. Um. Never in 708 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: my life did I expect that I would be talking 709 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: and educating so much. Well, what you're talking about also, 710 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: there's so many parallels here. Then, one of the first 711 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: things I talked to every client about is we have 712 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: to look at the filters that you're looking at the 713 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: world through, because we are born thinking. And the people 714 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: that listen to this podcast consistently are probably like, yeah, 715 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: we know, but you're born thinking that you are this wonderful, 716 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: beautiful center of the universe. Thing. We don't start to 717 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: believe negative things about ourselves until the world tells us 718 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. And how we view the world affects how 719 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: we view ourselves. And we filter every piece of information, 720 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: whether it's a conversation, a picture, a relationship, anything at commercial. 721 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: We filter everything that we see through the lens that 722 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: we have. And if I have this message that I'm 723 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: not good enough, or people don't stick around, or I'm 724 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: too much, We're going to see every experience through that filter. Well, 725 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: the same thing with people's skin. We're being taught this 726 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff about what we should look like and what healthy 727 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: skin is, and then we come to somebody like you, 728 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: or we just go on Google and we're like, Okay, 729 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: I've got to do X y Z to have a 730 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: healthy to have healthy skin, or to be attractive or 731 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: to not be like gross. Some people just think that 732 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: they're gross because their skins not perfect. You know. Yeah, 733 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: that's a huge thing. People think if they have like 734 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: a breakout or if they have acne, that's a little 735 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: bit out of their control. Um. The number one thing 736 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: I hear from people is that they think they're dirty, 737 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: and that like makes me really sad because I'm like, 738 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: you are probably cleansing more than anybody, and that's also 739 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: part of the problem. But like that's a crazy thing 740 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: to have to hear from people, is that, And I'm 741 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: like taking that on and I can't even think back 742 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: to like two different I had two very opposing clients 743 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: this week, like different in every way, um, but both 744 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: of them were so defeated. They like one was like 745 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: a teen with acne and the other was like a 746 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: mom who like survived cancer and has been having like 747 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: really just it's huge traumatic time and then coming in 748 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: and is just completely exhausted and and the stuff about 749 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: her skin is just a whole other thing on her plate. 750 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, like I'm just so tired. 751 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: She said that to me, and I like really cried together, Like, girl, 752 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: let me take that for you. Like here's how, here's 753 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: how we're gonna get healthy skin. Here's what healthy skin is, 754 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: and here's how I want you to just go like 755 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: stand in the mirror and like what it does. It 756 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: would it be crazy to you to just picture yourself 757 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: the way that you want to see and and stop thinking, 758 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: not like oh, I'm looking at my skin and I'm 759 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: filtering myself. It's just that, like you look at yourself 760 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: and you say, like, oh my gosh, my skin is 761 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: doing a really good job keeping my organs inside my 762 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: body today, Like that's literally its job, right. It's not 763 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: to look airbrushed. My skin is holding in my guts 764 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: and my heart and my bones and my muscles, and 765 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: my skin is keeping out pathogens and bacteria, and it's 766 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: doing a really good job because I'm literally alive and 767 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm standing here right now, and if it has some 768 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: texture and if it's a little shiny, let's let that go. 769 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to help you work on the things that 770 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: are actually imbalanced, Like decline happens as we age because 771 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: we're exposed to smoke and we don't always eat. We're 772 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: not maybe we had like an unhealthy period in our 773 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: life where we'd weren't eating properly or working out, um, 774 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: so we're not sweating and detoxing like a lot of stuff. 775 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's lots of imbalance that can happen. Oil 776 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: production slows down, cellular turnover slows down or is too fast. 777 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Hydration isn't happening properly, like all of that is so 778 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: like tangible. We can help with that, get your skin 779 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: to be healthy again. You're not gonna reach health if 780 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: you're still standing there in the mirror being like but 781 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: it should look like glass, it should look like porcelain. 782 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: And where you're helping somebody look at who they're seeing 783 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: rather than essentially like what I'm seeing. So I'm seeing 784 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: all these belling mashees or this or that, but no, 785 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this human who is who just beat cancer? 786 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm seeing literally and who is Like yeah, And I 787 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: think that sentence is not your skins job to look 788 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: like porcela. It's your skins job to hold your guts 789 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: in literally and if and the other thing is if 790 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: we look at ourselves and rip ourselves apart. This I 791 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: just think is crazy that we think that we can 792 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: look at parts of us and rip them apart and 793 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: be so unkind and mean and then be like do 794 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: what I tell you, Tom. It's like, oh my god, 795 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: what if I said that to you when you came 796 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: in with your problems? But I'm never coming back, I 797 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: know what Like if you what what if I repeated 798 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: to you the things that you think about yourself? Would 799 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: that be motivating to you. That's an abusive relationship exactly. Hello, 800 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: knock knock, You're in an abusive relationship with your face 801 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: or something or your body. Yeah, there's no way I 802 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: can help anybody get to a loving, kind relationship with 803 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: them in their body if every chance they get they rip. 804 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: Every time they look at themselves, they ripped themselves apart, 805 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: or if they are essentially hiding from looking at who 806 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: they are, so then they do see something, it's not perfect. 807 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, the world's ending. It's like no. 808 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: The way you get into a healthy relationship and a 809 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: kind relationship with your body is to be on its team. 810 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: And when you look at your face and you're like, 811 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're disgusting, it's like, okay, piece out, 812 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to actually hurt you back. Oh my gosh. 813 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: And you're definitely doing nothing for like your serotonin levels. 814 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: And if you're stressed, you're still stressed, like you're causing 815 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: the body to release more cortisol. And if you're speaking 816 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: unkindly to yourself and you're stressed out, if you have 817 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: that cortisol in your system, like it's all you know, 818 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: the whole like thread after that is is just like 819 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: a downward spiral. Like cortisol equals more your body is 820 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: more acidic. If your body is more acidic, you're more 821 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: prone to inflammation. If you have inflammation, Like, what do 822 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: you think is going to show up in your skin? Yeah, 823 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: it's problems. Inflammation causes pigmentation. Like, it's could be a 824 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: whole slew of problems. Slew Is that a word? I 825 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: think that's right, slew. We're rocking it. I don't know. 826 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: I've never said that in my life, but it just 827 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: could lead to so many things. But you're standing in 828 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: front of the mirror first thing in the morning, and 829 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: that's how you're starting your day. Is that here are 830 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: all my problems. This is all this. Yeah, this is 831 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: my lens. Um. I'm gonna get on and do my work. 832 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna filter myself in a picture and just ignore this, 833 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: and then tonight I'll look back in the mirror and 834 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: be like, oh, still not better? Oh wait cool? And 835 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: news it great again? We have this like we're out, 836 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: We're losing control. We're letting an industry take over your 837 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: thoughts or letting society control your thoughts. How do over 838 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: the counter skincare products or companies misinformed people. We already 839 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: know how they misinformed them when it comes to what 840 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: they should look like, but now how are they misinforming 841 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: the consumer when it comes to what they're selling them. 842 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: First of all, a product can make claims that it 843 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: does X, Y, and z based off of like, any 844 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: ingredient that is in the product. You can literally anybody 845 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: I could put a mixture of water and glycerin in 846 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: a jar and then shake some vitamin C powder or 847 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: something some kind of a scorbic acid into it and 848 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: call it a brightening serum or a brightening cream. That 849 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: anybody could just shake that into a product and call 850 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: it says it does what it does, but that's not 851 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: how cosmetic chemistry works. I would like to take some 852 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 1: of that off their plate, helping educate them and make 853 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: them feel like there's hope when obviously what I would 854 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: like to do, I would like to take some of 855 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: the stuff and be able to dive a little deeper 856 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: into it. I think that there's a whole we could 857 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: do a whole forty five minutes on moisture and I 858 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: could literally talk to about yeah and like and if 859 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: you guys have questions specifically about this or really anything. 860 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: You can email them to me. Don't DM them to 861 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: me because I'm going to lose them. You can m me, 862 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: but don't m me the question that you want me 863 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: to respond to. Send them to Catherine at You Need 864 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: Therapy podcast dot com. We can even have you on 865 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: for one of the Q and A episode, but send 866 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: them questions that you have or if anything was helpful, 867 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: like let us know because we obviously like to hear that. 868 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to give out your information? How do you? Um? 869 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: You can? You can email me if you're interested, UM 870 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: in appointments if you're in the Nashville area. My email 871 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: is Hannah Ellis Skincare at I cloud dot com. Um, 872 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: Hannah with two hes, do you need me to expel it? 873 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: How do we do this? I'll put all of that 874 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: in the show notes, UM, and then I'm the Nashville 875 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: eseticition On Instagram. I'm constantly educating on that page. I 876 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: try for it to not be some, to be some 877 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: like that page is great beauty page where it's just 878 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: like pictures of me. It's like all my captions are 879 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: so long, So I'm like just trying to teach, teach, teach, 880 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: so hopefully you find some information there. But reach out 881 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 1: and I can tell you how I can help you 882 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: and help your skin, and thank you and we'll have 883 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 1: you back very soon. Yeah, thanks for having me. Okay, see, 884 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: we could have talked for forty five years, not forty 885 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: five minutes. And there are some stuff I even didn't 886 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: share because I'm saving some of it for future episodes. 887 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: So make sure to send in your questions to us 888 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: and go follow Hannah at the Nashville eseticition. Her Instagram 889 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: seriously is so informative and helpful. The other thing I 890 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: wanted to mention is if you guys could do me 891 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: the biggest favor and scroll to the bottom of where 892 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: you're listening this to and rate, subscribe, and comment on 893 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: the podcast. That's really helpful, UM for visibility and to 894 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: get this podcast out to more people so more people 895 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: can hear from people like Hannah. UM. So thank you 896 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: guys for listening, and I hope you have a wonderful 897 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: two weeks. I most likely we'll be back next week 898 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: with a Q and a so it staateuned