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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we preview the Crazy Big twelve schedule.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid verbal ll that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy, you want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edo state is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tie, Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Solid Rebel boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt.

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Speaker 1: That fine gentleman over there as always in the heart

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Speaker 1: of the Midwest, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, back back from

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Speaker 1: his trip abroad. For folks who listen on the public feed,

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Speaker 1: you'll know that we've been going here non stop. We

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Speaker 1: did pre tape some of those episodes because my man

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Speaker 1: Dan was over in the uh great city of Barcelona. Yeah, Barcelona.

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Speaker 2: I wish it would be wonderful to say, how great

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Speaker 2: is it to be back here with you, But that

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Speaker 2: would be a lie time because if I were still

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Speaker 2: roaming the streets of Barcelona, eating cured meats and drinking

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Speaker 2: On the Mediterranean. But if there is a runner up,

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Speaker 2: if there is a second place, Ty, it's a joy

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Speaker 2: to be back here with you and with everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Dan, it is a pleasure to be

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Speaker 1: gonna st ramping stuff up now because the seasons get

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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger in the window. Dan, this is

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Speaker 1: our last of the Power or Five schedule previews that

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Speaker 1: we're doing. We're also gonna do a Group of five

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Speaker 1: episode a little bit later on this week, but it

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Speaker 1: starts to tumble downhill pretty quickly after this week, right

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Speaker 1: because next week we're in mid June before long. We've

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Speaker 1: got preview publications that are dropping. Before long, we're getting

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Speaker 1: into actual win total projections. We're getting into actual team projections.

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Speaker 1: We're getting into the true preseason content that many folks

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Speaker 1: start to tune in for.

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Speaker 2: Some of the magazines have already dropped. Yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 2: some screenshots from Athlon where you look at like the

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Speaker 2: projected too deep and you're like, bro, seven of those

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Speaker 2: guys are no longer on the team, which is not

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Speaker 2: the fault of Athlon or Phil Steel or Lindy's or

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Speaker 2: whoever's putting out these public ADUs. Lindy still exist, I

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Speaker 2: hope might. Yeah, Street and Smith's.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's doing which sport whatever. But it

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Speaker 2: is a tough nut to crack in terms of keeping

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Speaker 2: track of rosters in the portal era. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: the first sign of good things ahead.

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Speaker 1: It's great. Shall we dive into the Big twelve schedule? Preview? Man?

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Speaker 1: I had sec schedule thoughts, but that's sort of old.

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Speaker 1: Now we can get later this week, later this week,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's give me give me a second Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Big twelve? How many teams we have? Were fourteen in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve now you can believe in the track. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Brett Or Mark said that the Big twelve is going

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Speaker 1: to be undergoing a bit of a rebrand that does

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Speaker 1: means a dumb slogan. I tweeted that out. If we

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Speaker 1: get a dumb slogan out of this rebrand, I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's worth it. What would your dumb slogan be? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't do dumb slogans, you know me.

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Speaker 1: I'm much more higher brow than that. But Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast Excellence. You know, he's big on having teams in

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Speaker 2: Usually the rebrands involve logos. Apparently it's not a logo

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Speaker 2: They're like rebrand or like it's an angry mouth. How

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Speaker 2: about that Big twelve America's angry mouth.

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Speaker 1: I would hope that we would at some point get

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Speaker 1: much like the Big ten did, it actually has a

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Speaker 2: That's worthy, that's worthwhile. I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna be something that it's gonna be cutesye.

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Speaker 1: But there's no logo, he said, no logo, at least

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Speaker 1: not with right this purported rebrand thing. Anyway, Look, we

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Speaker 1: did four big conferences before this one. Go back and

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Speaker 1: for my money, the most interesting conference in America, as

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Speaker 1: you've got enough parody, at least in that media middle

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of parody there. This year, there is

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Speaker 1: the added dimension of everyone wanting to embarrass Texas and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma on their way out before they go on over

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Speaker 1: to the SEC. And so I just think a lot

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Speaker 1: to stack on top that makes this conference really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on what you imbibed with respect

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Speaker 2: So when I looked at the schedule, it's nearly impossible

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Speaker 2: because of how much there is new with the conference,

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Speaker 2: with four new teams who have not played a Power

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Speaker 2: schools like BYU and UCF and Houston ever in the

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Speaker 2: modern era, right, and so you're questioning, Okay, how are

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Speaker 2: recent schedules or conference affiliations. And then you have a

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Speaker 2: number of teams who have recently been dangerous but have

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Speaker 2: either fallen off recently your Oklahoma's Iowa States whatever, or

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Speaker 2: there isn't there's a hierarchy in terms of brand size

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Speaker 1: When do they get TCU? When do they get Kansas State? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Kansas State's here? Like does a team miss Kansas State

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Speaker 2: So bully for the Cats. So it was very different

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Speaker 1: And that's what I found really interesting about this.

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Speaker 2: That was my phrase that pays or maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. A good chunk of this exercise, especially

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Speaker 1: with the Big Twelve, is not about situations or looking

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Speaker 1: about trying to look and project forward with very little information.

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Speaker 1: And I think that totally applies to the Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: because there are four new teams. This is my disclaimer

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Speaker 1: either how to price in these new teams when it

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Speaker 1: comes to win totals. Of the four new teams, UCF

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Speaker 1: BYU is five and a half. Both Cincy and Houston

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be Cincinnati. I can tell you that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one of the three other teams are going to.

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Speaker 2: Go over, but Cincinnati has the schedule to be in.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati has the schedule. Yeah. Right. So it's just really

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Speaker 1: really fascinating to me to go through this team by

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Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, we've done four of these before,

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Speaker 1: and we were always high on situational awareness and gumpanies

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Speaker 2: So to me, well, I'll ask you first, when you

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Speaker 2: right in your knowledge loins.

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Speaker 1: Tie, where are you most confident?

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Speaker 2: Like not necessarily that this team will be excellent, this

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Speaker 2: it's I think Texas and Kansas State not necessarily that

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Speaker 2: the championship game, but because of quarterbacks, returning coach experience,

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I know what Texas's deficiencies are.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I know what Kansas States are and

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Speaker 2: because it's like was it a year one just explosion

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Speaker 1: Loins?

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Speaker 2: I apologize that those of the but like do you

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Speaker 1: Think Kansas State and Texas are are good answers. I

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Speaker 1: would also add Oklahoma in there, and man, there's there's

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of new with Oklahoma that we can

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Speaker 1: we get into previews and all that. This is just

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Speaker 1: trying to focus as much as we can on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: but on the Oklahoma side, at least with respect to

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Speaker 1: the schedule. I did go through that experiment of all, right,

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Speaker 1: where might they trip up? And I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: find a whole lot of obvious spots. Okay, So for me,

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Speaker 1: I would add Oklahoma to that to that list as well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're stable enough that, you know, I

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Speaker 1: If you look at over unders and things of that nature,

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Speaker 1: Vegas would tell you that the over under the top

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Speaker 1: tier is Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas State in that order.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can we start with Kansas State because we've been

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Speaker 2: starting with defending champions and look, Big twelve goes through

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Speaker 2: the Little Apple this year, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight and a half, eight and a half is

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Speaker 1: you're over under it sets up. The schedule does extremely

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Speaker 1: well for another run at the Big twelve, extremely well.

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Speaker 1: Their toughest road game is at Texas late in the year.

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Speaker 1: The Texas Tech game. By the way, the road game

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Speaker 1: And then they close out home against Baylor at Kansas

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's a tough back to back

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Speaker 1: That's right, and one point that I would add here

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Speaker 2: That's why I generally tend to look at this like,

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Speaker 2: Kansas has a good quarterback. Iowa State like, there's just

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Speaker 1: In my degree, I agree, let's go to Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: Can we can? We go to Oklahoma State. Let's Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 1: for my money, is the best schedule in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: They have easily the best road schedule in the Big Twelve. Yes,

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Speaker 1: The schedules buffered really well zone. But the over under

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Speaker 2: I'm not positive that's the case, which is why I

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Speaker 1: And a lot of them are on the road. Right,

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Speaker 2: At this moment, maybe I'll change my mind when I

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Speaker 1: Entering and after they wait that they finished last year.

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Speaker 2: I just were you the tie of today seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Oklahoma. Yes, nine and a half over

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Speaker 1: Alabama will talk about that game. I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: There are no guaranteed losses on this thing. Obviously the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make a TCU this year.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I feel like as long as Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You are higher on OU than I am right now.

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Speaker 2: in that the obvious losses aren't clearly there. But what

433
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Speaker 2: kind of handle do we have on Oklahoma's improvement this year? Like,

434
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: if we're gonna go strictly on talent of the roster,

435
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: they should definitely improve, sometimes dramatically so given who they

436
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 2: should be playing and what the other rosters look like.

437
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: But to say Oklahoma is in a position to go

438
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: ten to eleven, twelve wins or something like that, I'm

439
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: just not there. I'm just not there. And look, they're

440
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: going to adjust on defense, They're going to be better

441
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: on defense. Well hold on, now, hold on, let me

442
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: pause you there, who scares you that Dylan Gabriel is

443
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 2: throwing to handing it off?

444
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: Like, where's the pop here? Let me play devil's advocate

445
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: of my own argument? All right, I could for a second,

446
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: double devil I feel pretty good about Alahoma. I think

447
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: they will improve. I agree with you. Yeah. We had

448
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: Eddie rodosovitchean, Yeah, and we tried to pin him down

449
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: a little bit to the best that we could to

450
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: get an answer about the defense thing. Defense was a

451
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: problem last year. Remember we made all these jokes about

452
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: Ted Roof and Brandon Deannables is supposed to be a

453
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: defensive minded guy coming over from Clemson. He's gonna get

454
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna get him playing tougher. Right. They weren't good

455
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: on defense last year. They weren't good on defense last year.

456
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: It was kind of a the backle And when we

457
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Speaker 1: asked him Eddie, who is very much in the know

458
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma football, for some signellion of this is going

459
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: to get better. What went wrong, he wasn't really able

460
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: to give us any That doesn't mean it won't get better.

461
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I still believe that it will, because I believe in

462
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: brand Venables to a certain degree. But we have not

463
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: necessarily seen proof that that will happen. And so I agree,

464
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: to some extent, while I am maybe pumping sunshine here

465
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: into sooner Nation, I'm with you that maybe it is

466
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: a more responsible approach to just take a wait and

467
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: see perspective here. Thankfully for Oklahoma, it does set up

468
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: pretty well through the first you know, five weeks of

469
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Speaker 1: the season. Arkansas State SMU road games at Tulson Cincinnati

470
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Speaker 1: before they come back home and play Iowa State before

471
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Speaker 1: the Texas game. The first five weeks of the season,

472
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Speaker 1: we hopefully at that point should have a better understanding

473
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Speaker 1: of where the defense is at. There aren't a whole

474
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Speaker 1: lot of offenses there that scare me, but at least

475
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Speaker 1: I think before we get to Texas we'll have a

476
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: better sense for is his defense improved? Is it not improved?

477
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: Sure? Also just saying they could split post by if

478
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: the defense is average each of those teams. I mean, look,

479
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 2: you can say West Virginia might really truly struggle this year.

480
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: West Virginia is on a winning streak against Oklahoma, right, Yeah,

481
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: so UCF decent average defense, gusmels On calling the offense,

482
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: We'll see they could be scary that games in Norman

483
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: at Kansas should have offensive firepower testing what might still

484
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: be an average to blow average defense from Oklahoma. Oklahoma

485
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: State on the road in Stillwater rivalry West Virginia again

486
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: they lost APYU at altitude. You know how I feel

487
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: about that tie defense that doesn't always perform now going

488
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: too some thin air, and then TCU, who blew the

489
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: doors off them last year. They could go three and

490
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: three to finish out the season, not to mention anything

491
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: at the front of the year with Texas whatever in

492
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: Red River. So I'm just not there. You showed me

493
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: something catastrophic last year. Even with some improvement, I'm definitely

494
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: not confident. So yeah, could they go nine and certainly,

495
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: But I don't know the difference that I think if

496
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: there's a gulf between like eight and ten wins and

497
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Look, the transfers are pretty

498
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: good the recruiting class. If they get some early impact guys,

499
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: especially coming off the edge, yeah that changes calculus.

500
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: But we'll say we'll save the Texas conversation until a

501
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: little bit later on in this episode. Sure, but we

502
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: should talk about TCU. Yeah, we're gonna talk about KSETA,

503
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: we talk about TCU. TCU defending national runner up? Dan,

504
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: can you believe that if that's a phrase? Sure it's not,

505
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: it's not just made it up. But a hell of

506
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: a season for Sunny Dykes in year one now they

507
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: are absolutely decimated with losses on offense. I would not

508
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: touch this over under with a ten foot poll. It

509
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: feels like there is way too much uncertainty to me.

510
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: We had the TCU conversation when we were going through

511
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: our year one debriefs. I believe TCU was the last

512
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: one that we did, and the conclusion that we came

513
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: too as a result of that was basically, hey, great

514
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: first year, Sunny Dikes, but also, we have no idea

515
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: what year two has in store. There have been many

516
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: great coaches, many big name coaches, who have been felled

517
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: by incredibly productive first seasons that they could not ever

518
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: follow up on in year two, three, etc. Etc. I hope,

519
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: for TCU's sake, Sunny Dikes doesn't fall into that category.

520
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: But Vegas is taking a very much wait and see

521
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: approach seven and a half over under. This schedule is

522
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: big time backloaded, so they'll have a little bit of

523
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: a chance to get their legs under them before they

524
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: get to Kansas State, Texas, Oklahoma. Those three teams, by

525
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: the way, the last six weeks of the season, so

526
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: they've got, for my money here about seven weeks to

527
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: figure it out. And then after that that's when the

528
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: rubber meets the road. First seven weeks are Colorado Nichols

529
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: at Houston home against SMU in West Virginia at Iowa

530
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: State Week seven home against BYU. That's not bad. That's

531
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: not bad. After that though, at Kansas State before a

532
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: bye at Texas Tech on a Thursday. After the bye,

533
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: Texas at home, Baylor at home at Oklahoma Black Friday

534
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: to close out the season. Sort of the Tale of

535
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: two Cities here for this TCU schedule again, you're over

536
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: under a seven and a half Dan, where do you

537
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: stand here?

538
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy confident in the under, but if you're

539
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: looking for value right now betting against TCU. Early part

540
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: of the Big twelve schedule, we kind of had a

541
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: concept for what the best and worst of a Sunny

542
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: Dyke's team was and if last year was truly you know,

543
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: finishing those close games, coming back you know, from deficits

544
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: at halftime or the start at the fourth quarter, getting

545
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: a performance all season long for Max Duggan, willing this

546
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: team across the finish line much more often than not,

547
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: you know, the championship game or championship games nowithstanding tc

548
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: would be an unbelievable value to bet against right now,

549
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: even though that that win total is not especially high

550
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: that that. Sometimes there's a regression to the means. Sometimes

551
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: there is an idea of like, Okay, they lose their

552
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, they lose their clear best receiver, they lose

553
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: their best quarterback of the last you know, I guess

554
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: you know since Trevon Boykin or whatever nine ten years,

555
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: and we're expected they use talented running back talent along

556
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: the lines, Like I think there's a lot of value

557
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: in saying, yeah, they could get better by the end

558
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: of the year, but we kind of have an idea

559
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: of like what a sunny Dyke's team is between SMU

560
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: and CAL and if they don't have that talent on

561
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, and they're making you know,

562
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: they're replacing an offensive coordinator who was sensational last year.

563
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I don't I think they're

564
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of you know, field goal

565
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: doinks instead of field goals to win kind of thing.

566
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: And so this has the feeling of a six and

567
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: six type team. Yeah, I mean, bear in mind they're

568
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: replacing their quarterback, their top two rushers. There I believe

569
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: three leading receivers, three guys along the line. It's a lot,

570
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: it's a lot new. And as you said at the

571
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: very top of this show, it's not so much to

572
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: the defense that was powering this team. It was very

573
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: much to Sunny Dyke's offense, the quick strike offense, the

574
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: big plays. That was how they got where they eventually

575
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: did last season. We can't count on any of that

576
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: this year. And I believe in Sunny Dike's as a

577
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: bright offensive mind. I think you'll have them playing good offense.

578
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Certainly top half of the nation offense, that's not even

579
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: a question. But how quickly do they get up to speed?

580
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: You know what's it looked like week six when they

581
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: go to Iowa State. I don't know a lot of

582
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: unknown This is why the conference is so damn interesting

583
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: to me. It's great, it's great. There's so many unknowns here.

584
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Maybe not great for a TCU fan, but you just

585
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: had a charm season a year ago that sometimes this

586
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: is what you have to deal with while things are

587
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of setting in.

588
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Look and look, we can be proven wrong almost immediately.

589
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: Whatever they do against Colorado doesn't matter. But as I

590
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: see it today, in early June at Houston onward. So

591
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: that's what Week four onward losible to me.

592
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow, you're going back a few days or a few weeks,

593
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: then okay.

594
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: They all seem losible because of either where that game

595
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: is the idea that I don't think they're going to

596
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: be playing in shootouts, like I think the defense should

597
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: be actually pretty decent and look more like what they

598
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: did before Georgia. But you know, after a few rough

599
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: weeks as they adjusted, I just think it's the fact

600
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: that they didn't go after a quarterback in the portal

601
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: worries me a little bit, or maybe they didn't just

602
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: struck out. I just I don't know. It has the

603
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: makings of a five hundred ish seven. And so you're

604
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: saying a little bit of this.

605
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: I ate more fetichini alfredo and drank less water than

606
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: I have in my entire life.

607
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: So you're saying TCU's got a little bit of fetichini

608
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: alfredo in the schedule, And I think I agree.

609
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: After that bye week with the car bloating at Texas Tech, Texas,

610
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Baylor at OU's and what they needed to beat those

611
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: teams at times, Yeah, they didn't need much to beat

612
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 2: Oklahoma mind deal.

613
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: But right, I see a world.

614
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: You know, the three point wins become three point losses.

615
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to Baylor. Baylor's over under seven and a half. Yea.

616
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: Their home roads splits are actually pretty tremendous here, just

617
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: four road games and on the road just once before

618
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: week eight, which is beautiful. Let's not to talk about that.

619
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: They get both Utah and Texas at home in that

620
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: early stretch. Their road games are at UCF, Cincinnati, K State,

621
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Speaker 1: and TCU. The K State and TCU games are on

622
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: back to back weeks, which is a tough little stretch.

623
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of a gump factor with

624
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: the schedule. I'm not going to play the.

625
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: I haven't written down ty so if it's double gump,

626
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: so you want me to play it, I can play.

627
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm must to dragon me about fifteen, doctor PEPs.

628
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I have King Gump being Kansas. We can talk about

629
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: why for two specific games. I have Cincinnati. You can

630
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: go though, but Baylor's got a little bit of a

631
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: of a gumpy situation here to find that for people

632
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: who don't know. Again, they're just everywhere, they're in weird situations.

633
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: They just pop up on either of themselves.

634
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: Yes, they find themselves in unusual, weird, unexpected situations all

635
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: season long, like Forrest Gump, across the country, across the world.

636
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: They get both Kansas State and TCU a week after

637
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: each of those teams plays Texas. Bear in mind, good

638
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: situations does not necessarily translate to wins. But Baylor's Baylor's

639
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: got I think, a really advantageous situation here across the board.

640
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: But they also have a lot that they have to

641
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: sort out this season. They are like one hundredth in

642
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: returning production. Last year they were very inconsistent. Some things

643
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: were great. Richard Reese, we love Richard Rees's guy was

644
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: a revelation. But Blake shape In threw too many picks.

645
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: The defense, the defense had one of the weirder profiles

646
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: that I've seen in a while. They were bad almost

647
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: exclusively when it counted the.

648
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: Most, which is why Ron Roberts has a new job, right,

649
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: That's why he's got a new job.

650
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: But third downs in the red zone they were able

651
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to generate pressure, but not sacks. Just a lot of lumpiness,

652
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: let's say, on the defensive side of the ball that

653
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: they got to work out. But this all lends itself

654
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: to the argument I made earlier that Baylor is that

655
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: almost that like Lynchpin team, that tipping point team in

656
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: the schedules of all of their opponents, where if they're

657
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: good and if they're formidable, and if Blake Shapin is

658
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: not throwing ten interceptions, then perhaps perhaps Baylor is a

659
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: tougher opponent than meets the eye. But coming off of

660
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: last season, looking at a seven and a half win total,

661
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: it feels to me like there is as much uncertainty

662
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: in Vegas as there is on this podcast about the

663
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Baylor Bears.

664
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's Utah after Utah plays Florida, I believe correct,

665
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: just in terms of the gumpiness. It's a sunshine sandwich

666
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: in which they get UCF right between the Kansas schools.

667
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: I think you had that phrase. I might have stolen

668
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: that phrase from you.

669
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Baylor is the patty in between the sunflower sandwich. Yes,

670
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: between road games at k State in week four and

671
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: a road game at Kansas in week six.

672
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: And so it's and it's TCU. I believe in a

673
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: red River sandwich as well. Right, they're they're a double paddy. Yeah,

674
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't feel anything about Baylor. I don't feel bad

675
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 2: things coming for Baylor. I don't feel good things coming

676
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: for Baylor there. They not just gumpy to me, but

677
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: they're like an or maybe not team to me. They're

678
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: just I don't know, like, man, you have Baylor right there,

679
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: lucky for you, or damn, that's that's tough. Sorry about that. So,

680
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: I uh, I think the schedule it's the same thing

681
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: that you said about Oklahoma State. What you feel about

682
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: Baylor's number says more about you than where Baylor is

683
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: right now, because at any given moment, you feel like

684
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: they could go completely cold doing something.

685
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go next? Let's go you

686
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: want to save Texas orfuld we go to Texas. Let's

687
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: go to Texas. We can go to Texas here. Let's

688
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: do it. Texas nine and a half win total. I

689
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: am really high in Texas this year. I'm not ashamed

690
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: to say it. I think you're in a similar camp.

691
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: We feel really good about the state of the program,

692
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: what Sark is doing as compared to his first season.

693
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: Last year. We saw a really big jump on the

694
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, not unanimously, but where it counts,

695
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: they took a really big jump. It was their best

696
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: defense in five years. They're the best in the nation,

697
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: for example, at forcing teams into third downs. This season, offensively,

698
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: we will look to see what the offense looks like

699
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: now because Bejeon Robinson is in the NFL. YEP, that

700
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: will be a problem. But look, they're solid. They're solid,

701
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of talent. I don't necessarily like

702
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: this schedule with respect to a playoff run. I'm just

703
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: treating this season this schedule as another potentially high water

704
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: mark for Sark because now he's in year three, he

705
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: needs to keep proving himself at a place like Texas

706
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: that he's building momentum, especially ahead of that SEC move.

707
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: Some of the highlights on this schedule, You've got the

708
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Bama game on the road in Tuscaloosa week two. Who knows,

709
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: honestly what to expect there. It's early in the year.

710
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: If you're going to get Bama early, that's probably the

711
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: best time to do it. Bama's got its own things

712
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: it needs to sort out with a new offensive staff,

713
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: a new quarterback, etc. Etc. Et cetera. If they're playing

714
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner week two, you know where I stand. I'm

715
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: incredibly biased on that front. I'm just not a Buckner believer, okay,

716
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: But Bama Week two is obviously a marque opponent Kansas State,

717
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: and then a road game at TCU in week ten

718
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and eleven, tough backback slate there. Who knows. You've also

719
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: got Kansas and Oklahoma back to back weeks in weeks

720
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: five and six. Again, who knows there. I feel pretty

721
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: good about Texas's chances there, but I just think a

722
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: really solid schedule from top to bottom, there are good

723
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: opponents on this thing, not a whole lot of murderer

724
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: slash wounders rose to worry about. I feel good about

725
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: where Texas is at, but I think just because of

726
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: the overall uncertainty I have with respect to the Big twelve,

727
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know where I put them where I put

728
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: them in terms of this over under nine and a half. Again,

729
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I come back to the Baylor thing. Baylor Week four

730
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: on the road. If Baylor's good, Baylor could beat him

731
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: with they're with with a retooled offense that doesn't turn

732
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: the ball over, with hopefully a better defense. There's a

733
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: possibility there, especially getting that game at home for the Bears.

734
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: But it just feels to me like Texas is in

735
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: a good spot. They will probably get to nine wins,

736
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: no issue, but getting above that ten win plateau, pushing

737
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: a little bit higher, trying to be big twelve or

738
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, a playoff contender, That to me is really

739
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: the question this year.

740
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: So, I mean, when you look at this schedule specifically,

741
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: because we can talk about the roster, we can talk

742
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: about SARK, we can talk about last year, we can

743
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: talk about where they need to improve and situationally, where

744
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: they're good, where they're not good, whatever they played or

745
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: they're underlying numbers suggested that they were a nine or

746
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: ten win caliber last year. That's right, But they're a

747
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: team that has dumb dumbs in them. And you win

748
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: your clunkers, you don't lose your clunkers. That's what we

749
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: say on this show. Wins are better than losses. So

750
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: where are the dumb dumb moments for Texas on this schedule?

751
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Is there a dumb dumb moment at home against BYU

752
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: a week before KSE date and TCU. Is there a

753
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: dumb dumb moment a week after TCU on the road

754
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: at Iowa State. I could see that we know that

755
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State in Texas have a little bit of recent history.

756
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Sure you know the Baylor game. Again, I come back

757
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: to that. I don't know what to make a Baylor

758
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: but a week before the Kansas and Oklahoma stretch. Maybe

759
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: you know that again. I keep coming back to this,

760
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: but part of I think the fascination I have with

761
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: the conference is that you have a lot of teams

762
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: that feel solid on some level, but you can very

763
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: easily envision dumb, dumb moments, whether it's Texas or Oklahoma

764
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: or Case State or teams maybe a wrung below. It

765
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: just feels like there is enough parody and enough firepower

766
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: throughout that you could see some of these dumb games.

767
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Even Texas Tech to close out the season on Black Friday. Sure,

768
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: games in Austin, but hey, who knows where Tech will

769
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: be by then? I agree.

770
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: Look the way that they lose to TCU, not scoring

771
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: an offensive touchdown in that game, I believe last year,

772
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: losing late to Oklahoma State before Oklahoma States collapse, losing

773
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: an over overtime to Texas TACK So what you're saying

774
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: is not far fetched. I don't think that was a

775
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: Tyler shut game for Texas Tech either. No, and then

776
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: losing by one to Alabama. I think they can get

777
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: two games better. I think they can go ten and two.

778
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: I think they can go ten and two with a

779
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Bama win. Yeah, by the way, they could beat Bama

780
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: and still lose, you know, to TCU in Texas tack

781
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: or Oklahoma and tc whatever. I just think it takes

782
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: some time to get the dumb dumbed out and with

783
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: the way that that offense seemed to collapse in second halves,

784
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: they will be better. I am positive they will be

785
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: better in second halves. I will be positive. We are

786
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: not going to finish the season watching Texas football and say, man,

787
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: they really miss Bjeon Robinson. I don't think he's replaceable

788
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: in that like it's one to one, but I think

789
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: you can get productivity out of, you know, the young

790
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: running backs that they have. I think they're going to

791
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: be very good at receiver. They might have the best

792
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: left tackle in the country in Calvin Banks. The defense

793
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: is going to continue to take steps to take steps forward,

794
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: especially getting after the quarterback, and the secondary should be

795
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: very good. It's just scoring points in second halves, you know,

796
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: fixing what needs to be corrected last year. And they're fine.

797
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: They're absolutely fine. So I have them. I'm positive, positive

798
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: they're going to be better than they were last year.

799
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna win nine games at the very least positive,

800
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: I agree, and if they're an actually well coached team.

801
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: They win eleven. That's all. Let's go to Kansas. Kansas

802
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: was kind of the sweetheart of last season. They were

803
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: one of these stories that everybody gravitated to. The job

804
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: that Lance Leipold has done in a very short time

805
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: in Lawrence has been incredible. The guy can coach, Yeah,

806
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: and it's part of why when he was hired in

807
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: the first place. To you and I were both pretty excited.

808
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Seemed like a good move. Guy knew how to coach,

809
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: guy had a track record, doesn't seem like he's eager

810
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: to jump ship. It was really the best of all

811
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: worlds for Kansas, and last season saw some of that payoff.

812
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: This season, I'm not going to say it's an easy schedule.

813
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not an easy schedule. It's got good buffers, and

814
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: two of their three hardest games are at home. You've

815
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: got Kansas playing Texas a week before the Red River Shootout.

816
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: You've got Oklahoma the Oklahoma game a week before Bedlam.

817
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: That's why I say they're King Gump. I must have

818
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: draggoned me about fifteen Doctor Peppers to look ahead spots

819
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: for the two big games on this schedule. For my money,

820
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Kansas at a six and a half win total sets

821
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: up as maybe the best TV show in the Big

822
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: twelve because we know they're gonna play offense. I don't

823
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: know about defense. We'll find out find out about defense.

824
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why there's a reason to believe but continue. Yeah,

825
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where we stand on

826
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: the defensive thing, but I think we saw enough competence

827
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: on offense that we can expect a similar thing this season.

828
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: I am excited about Kansas without fully knowing how I

829
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: feel based solely on what we saw a year ago

830
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: and the strides and the improvements that we saw, at

831
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: least on the offensive side of the ball. I feel excited.

832
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: What I don't really know is how this schedule benefits

833
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: them or works against them. Frankly, it seems like it

834
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: seems like a great unknown to me, which is part

835
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: of why I just think it'll be a hell of

836
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: a TV show. Oh, it's gonna be great. It's gonna

837
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: be one.

838
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: They could start the season, what five and one, six

839
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: and one something like that.

840
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Thing, So here, here's where we're at. I'll read

841
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: through this very quickly. Yeah, Missouri State Week one, Illinois

842
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Week two, which actually be at home, though at home.

843
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Both are at The Illinois game could be interesting. Week

844
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: three at Nevada, Week four home against BYU. Then week

845
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: six or week five, excuse me, We go to Texas,

846
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: come back home against UCF, go back on the road

847
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State before a buye, then home again against Oklahoma,

848
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: then on the road at Iowa State. Two home games

849
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: week eleven and twelve, Texas Tech and Kansas State. They

850
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: close things out on the road against Cincinnati. Sure, it's

851
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: not easy, but good buffers and most of the tough

852
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: games are at home.

853
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: No, it's are they well coached enough, which I believe

854
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: to be the case to win forty five forty one

855
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: more often than losing forty five forty one? Yeah, So yeah,

856
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. And great TV show, but

857
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: an unseerious program in terms of taking the next step

858
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: at this moment, because you need to attract defensive talent

859
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: to win one on one battles. I think they've I

860
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: know they kept their defensive coordinator from last year, which

861
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: is I guess fine, but it just sort of feels

862
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: like until you figure out how to get talent, like

863
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the Patsy if they have another terrible defense,

864
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: and I just don't think they have the guys right

865
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: now to be anything more than entertaining.

866
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Byu is a newcomer in the Big Twelve this year.

867
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: I went through these schedules. I tried to guess in

868
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: advance what the over unders were, so as we're kind

869
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: of presenting it here, I'm giving that out at the

870
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: top some context clues as to what Vegas thinks. People

871
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: smarter than us think, right, But when I went through,

872
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: I guessed, and I said to myself, BYU's gonna be

873
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: lucky to get five the over unders five and a half.

874
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: So I wasn't too far off. This is truly one

875
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: of those welcome to the Dynasty moments that I talked

876
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: about with the ACC preview, where they're just sort of

877
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: loaded up in effect, the games against teams like Utah

878
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: State and Liberty in East Carolina and something called Utah

879
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Tech which is apparently a football team. Those games that

880
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: they had last year have basically been swapped out and

881
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: replaced with Big Twelve teams. So it's an order of

882
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: magnitude harder, and you would expect that going from where

883
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: BYU was, or where Cincinnati was or where Houston was

884
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: to now being a full member of the Big Twelve.

885
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: The question of how BYU can navigate this, I think

886
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: is a totally separate question from the objective fact that

887
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: the schedule is tough. Right where BYU is at as

888
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: a program is completely separate from the fact that this

889
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: is just tough. Is tough, doesn't matter who you are,

890
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Sam Houston and Southern Utah. Weeks one and two, okay, fine,

891
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: But then back to back road games at Arkansas and Kansas.

892
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Coming off of their own catastrophically bad defensive season.

893
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: That's right. Week five home against Cincinnati, short week though

894
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: on a Friday before they go into a buye. Then

895
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: after the bye, Week seven at TCU home against Texas Tech,

896
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: back to back road games at Texas at West Virginia,

897
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: back to back home games Iowa State and Oklahoma. Close

898
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: out the year on the road at Oklahoma State. Six

899
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: true road games. There's also a lot new for BYU.

900
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: Keaton Slovas apparently still playing these days. The presumed starter,

901
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Jay Hill, is a new defensive coordinator. They brought him

902
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: over from Weber State to try and reboot the defense.

903
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I thought a shrewd move by Kilanie Sataki because the

904
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: defense was not shrewd last year. They were really bad.

905
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: So there's just a lot new they're jumping into this

906
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: this new conference. The schedule is harder, a confluence of

907
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: events here that makes it really tough for me to

908
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: get behind BYU.

909
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's you're you're right with the Feedduccini. That's

910
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: what I wrote down to be a better d.

911
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: And drank less water than I have in my entire life.

912
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's really tough after the buye.

913
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is nice that if you are a

914
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: BYU fan and you're going through this schedule and ticking

915
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: off where you think the wins could come from. It'd

916
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: be nicer if Kansas were at home. It'd be nicer

917
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: if West Virginia were at home. But I think it's

918
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: here's what I like about BYU right now. They are

919
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: a team, they're a program that it seems like they

920
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: don't do anything poorly for long no, And I think

921
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: that's reflective of Kilanie Sataki being a quality at the

922
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 2: very least. I think he's a quality coach who's made

923
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: some savvy hires and he's found dudes, and obviously it's

924
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: you have the home field advantage of playing at altitude.

925
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: I think it'll get correct. He was he himself was

926
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: an excellent defensive coordinator, so I think that's going to

927
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: get fixed. I think they're gonna be able to find bodies.

928
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: I just.

929
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: If they are just average at both offense and defense,

930
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: which seems to be the calling card of Keaton Slova's offenses.

931
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: And maybe he's just unlucky and he stopped following Graham

932
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: Harrell around whatever. I mean, Graham hell wasn't at pit.

933
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying that maybe it's the

934
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: fresh start that he needs to be pretty good like

935
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: he was early on in his USC time. But I

936
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: don't know. There's too much iffy to me. And I'm

937
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: with you that if they go to a bowl in

938
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: year one, you know, round of applause, that's a success.

939
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to be year eight for Colonie's

940
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: to talk you, by the way, if you can do it,

941
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm at year one in the conference. But yes, you're

942
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: one of the conference. But the point on Klonie's Talckey,

943
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you, he's a solid coach.

944
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: Their situation is different though than looking at Houston or

945
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: UCF for Cincinnati, in that they've scheduled a ton of

946
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: Power five teams as an independent program, right that they're

947
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: not coming off of a Mountain West schedule or something

948
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: like how are they going to make No, they've been

949
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: scheduling pack. We joked what two years ago that they

950
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: won the Pac twelve right because of the number of

951
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: the sheer number of teams in that conference that they

952
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: beat scheduling independently. So I don't think they're going to

953
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: be surprised by the size and speed of an athleticism

954
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: of the Big twelve. I'm just more concerned of going

955
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: into this conference with the defense they put on the

956
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: field last year and then the quarterback at his third stop,

957
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Like that's worrisome to me. But no, they're they're the

958
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: most acclimated I think to what the schedule has.

959
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: From a scheduling standpoint. I mean last year played Baylor

960
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: played Oregon, played Notre Dame, played Arkansas, played even Boise State.

961
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: You can throw in there. Sure they had high quality

962
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: teams on that schedule. Let me shift then let's go

963
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: to some of the other newcomers. Let's talk about Houston.

964
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: The schedule is not overpowering in terms of road games.

965
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: They've got Rice, They've got Texas, Tech, K State, Baylor,

966
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: you see, have to close out the season. My biggest

967
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: issue for Houston is that they were seven to five

968
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: a year ago with a bad defense against a much, much,

969
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: much worse schedule. Yep. And when I mean worse, I'm

970
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: talking like you're swapping in teams like Texas and k

971
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: State for Navy and Temple. Mm, what's going to happen there?

972
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Do you think? Do you have any suggestions as to

973
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: what might happen? This is why the over UNDERDS four

974
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: and a half right, because I don't know if Houston

975
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: is equipped in the way that a BIU is equipped

976
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: to handle that big of an order of magnitude debt

977
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: shift in terms of schedule. Now, they could get there.

978
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: They've got a fur recruiting ground in the state of Texas.

979
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: I think they've got a coach who knows a thing

980
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: or two about playing Power five football. I think Houston

981
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: is a good addition to this conference, not just with

982
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: respect to football but also basketball, where Houston's been a

983
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: really good team. I just don't know what year one

984
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: looks like. Your one kind of frightens me here.

985
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm scared for Houston a little bit now. Yeah, coaching wise,

986
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: are in a good place. The starting over at quarterback,

987
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: the portal wasn't terribly kind to them. I think what

988
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: they lose their star running back from two years ago,

989
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: Alton mccaskell to Colorado. So I don't know that doesn't

990
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: really reflect anything. But their defense was awesome two years

991
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: ago and terrible last year. And so the optimist in

992
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: me says, well, look they got to get back to

993
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: you rushing the past. I think that's where they're especially strong,

994
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: getting after the pass or two years ago, and it

995
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: fell off a cliff last year. So to me, it's

996
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: just going to be a matter of is the talent

997
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: there is the coaching good enough. Is quarterback going to

998
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: be in an okay place?

999
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: You look at Dana.

1000
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: Holgerson's track record, it probably will be. You know, the

1001
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: offense will probably be in a pretty good place. I

1002
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: just think there's too many questions on defense, too many

1003
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: questions about inconsistency. I don't think the home field advantage

1004
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: is going to be especially pronounced. So I'm worried about

1005
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Houston in year one, but open to being pleasantly surprised

1006
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: the schedule, specifically because this isn't necessarily a preview show.

1007
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: I think it's okay early in terms of finding their footing.

1008
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: UTSA is tough, but it's at Rice, TCU, SAM Houston,

1009
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: at Texas Tech. It's tough, but it's not crazy.

1010
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: It's not overpowering, at least not in terms of road games.

1011
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: It seems buffery, even though there's tough matchups with Texas

1012
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: Kansas State back to back in the back half of

1013
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: the year. But you're telling me Baylor's going to struggle

1014
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: again in certain ways, Cincinnati's going to struggle Oklahoma State UCF.

1015
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: UCF is gonna be tough in the bounce House. But

1016
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to see Bowl eligibility, but

1017
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: I can see breaks get into six and six.

1018
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Sure, let's talk about Cincinnati. Are you more concerned about

1019
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: Houston in your one or Cincinnati in your one? In

1020
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, That's a good question.

1021
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: I guess it would just come down to schedule. And

1022
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's schedule seems maybe a little bit better because of

1023
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: the gumpiness. So maybe I feel better about Cincinnati that

1024
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: the roster's been built up enough. Luke Fickle, I think

1025
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: doesn't get enough credit as a quality recruiter, even though

1026
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: there were a ton of transfers. It's and overhaul of

1027
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: the roster there are. And I don't love Scott's Sadderfield.

1028
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: No.

1029
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I so look, I don't hate the schedule. I think

1030
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: the schedule's about as good as you could hope for

1031
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: a year one at a new conference, and they're home against

1032
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: the best team on their schedule, Oklahoma. I had a

1033
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: hard time, though, looking at this objectively, because I don't

1034
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: feel good about Cincinnati at all. No, this is this

1035
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: is not a sitch situation. You hear this a lot

1036
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: when you've got a new coach, where you hear the

1037
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: term reboot. This is not a reboot. This is someone

1038
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: tripped over the power cord and you're scrambling around trying

1039
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: not to plug it back. In the combo of Luke

1040
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: Fickle leaving, of Scott Sadderfield coming in, of joining a

1041
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: new conference, of getting a much tougher schedule, of bolting

1042
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: together an offense and defense in the transfer portal. We'll

1043
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: go into all of this in much much more detail

1044
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: when we do previews.

1045
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: Starting quarterback opted for the Northwestern offensive experience.

1046
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Ben Bryant out. So it's either Emery

1047
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: Jones or Evan Prater getting the nod this year at court.

1048
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: There's just so much in flux at Cincinnati, and I

1049
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: agree that the program is at a really good spot

1050
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: when Luke Fickle left. Neither one of us is crazy

1051
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: about Scott Saderfield experience, about him being the guy to

1052
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: come in, Like I just I don't get that at all.

1053
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm really worried about Cincinnati, and you're one. I like

1054
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: that two of their five road games are at pitt

1055
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: in West Virginia, which are very close, so it's not

1056
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: like long haul trip tier across the country or anything.

1057
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: But there's so much influx and the schedule gets harder,

1058
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: and I don't really care for Scott Saderfield that I

1059
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: am selling really hard in Cincy this year. They might

1060
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: hit the over, but I'm selling hard and I'm not

1061
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: putting my money behind that.

1062
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: So if I'm reading this correctly, it's no Texas Kansas

1063
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 2: State TCU correct, Okay, that's a good starting place. Yeah,

1064
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: so in terms of companess, they get pit on the road.

1065
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: But it's the week before the brawl, right before the

1066
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: backyard brawl. It's Oklahoma's first game against a new Big

1067
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: twelve team, not that that means anything. Iowa State after

1068
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 2: Iowa State's run of Oklahoma State Oklahoma TCU Oklahoma State

1069
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: pre Bedlam West Virginia between West Virginia at Oklahoma and

1070
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: at Baylor. Okay, that's tough Kansas post Sunshine showdown, post rivalry,

1071
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: and they miss arguably three of the top ish tier

1072
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: teams that they could get. So if they're just fine, right,

1073
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: if the transfers work out, I am. I'm absolutely worried

1074
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: about them in year one. But big picture, Cincinnati a

1075
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: home field advantage, the nearby talent, the ability that Luke

1076
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: Fickle has shown to win big coaches plural have one

1077
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: big at Cincinnati. This is a place that fosters success. Sure,

1078
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: so Big Picture pretty pumped for. Since I don't hate,

1079
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't hate the schedule. If I don't, Scott Saderfield

1080
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: is better I think than you look like at Louisville,

1081
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: which is tough. You know, we see inside somewhere in

1082
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: there there's a good coach, but recent results haven't been amazing,

1083
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: so you gotta squint a little bit. But no, I'm

1084
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: pretty bullish on Cincinnati in this conference. It's just as

1085
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned, there's just so much new. There's so much

1086
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: new that if they're merely fine schedules awesome. So I'm

1087
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: not down on Cincinnati, but it's gonna be it's gonna

1088
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: be an uphill battle.

1089
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: The final new team in the conferences here as UCF.

1090
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Of the four newcomers, they're the one with the highest

1091
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: over under six and a half. There is a little

1092
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: bit of a Fenacini Alfredo situation starting week four. I

1093
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: won't play the sound again. But Week four at k State,

1094
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: then home against Baylor, than at Kansas before a bye,

1095
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: then at Oklahoma home against West Virginia, at Cincinnati home

1096
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State, at Texas Tech home against Houston. So

1097
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: kind of in every other situation for UCF, they do

1098
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: have the Sunflower sandwich, as we mentioned earlier, with Baylor

1099
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: as the patty in between k State and Kansas. I

1100
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: don't know, like what we said on previous versions of

1101
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: the schedule preview is if you come out of a

1102
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: out of a schedule, and you don't really have notes.

1103
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. I wasn't moved one way or

1104
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: the other. There are some tough road spots here that

1105
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: frighten me a little bit for a newcomer into the conference.

1106
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: But I do feel like UCF has been a fairly

1107
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: stable program. As you said about Cincinnati, right, coaches have

1108
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: had success m with this team, and it feels to

1109
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: me like, you know, Gus Malzan knows how to play

1110
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: power file football. Might not have the defensive manpower to

1111
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: really stack up against, you know, a team where you

1112
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: need to try and contain the defense and it's Oklahoma, right,

1113
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: But I think by a large UCF is in pretty

1114
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: good spots. So I wasn't moved one way or the

1115
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: other with this.

1116
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: Do they have a quarterback who can throw the ball

1117
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: to yards down the field? Yeah, I you know, maybe

1118
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: that's I don't know that. To me, is everything with

1119
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: this schedule that they can and sort of paint the

1120
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: corners and come away with some wins.

1121
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: They were fine.

1122
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 2: They weren't terrible at anything last year other than throwing

1123
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: the ball downfield, which seems important. Yeah, you SEEF schedule

1124
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: is in terms of home road splits, there's a lot

1125
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: of winnable games at home, and that is a definite

1126
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: home field advantage.

1127
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: I agree, And so.

1128
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: They can win all of their home games, which gets

1129
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: them to seven wins, and then winning at Kansas. Sure,

1130
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: winning at Cincinnati or Texas Tech tough. But maybe I

1131
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be very bad at anything.

1132
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna be able to move the ball,

1133
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: just maybe not an explosive airway. I think they're gonna

1134
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: be good, not great. I think they're gonna be good.

1135
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: I think they're better prepared. They were good in the portal,

1136
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: and they will continue to be good in the portal

1137
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: because of their geography and because of Gus mals On.

1138
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: So I don't think they're going to be splashy in

1139
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: year one.

1140
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be tough. I think if the

1141
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: schedule's fine, of the remaining three teams here that we have,

1142
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: which are Texas Tech, Iowa State, and West Virginia, who

1143
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: interests you the most.

1144
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the brutality of West Virginia's schedule is notable.

1145
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we talked about this before.

1146
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: We don't have to go into too much more detail

1147
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: on this, But yeah, over unders four and a half,

1148
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: They've got Penn State, TCU, Houston, UCF, Oklahoma, and Baylor

1149
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: all on the road. They've also got a home game

1150
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: in here against pitt backyard brawl, home game in here

1151
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: against Texas Tech. There are a few others that I

1152
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: could use to fill in the gaps of the conversation,

1153
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: but go back and listen to our West Virginia show.

1154
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: It's just almost impossible that they're going to come out

1155
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: of this thing and hit the over. I don't feel

1156
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: great about Neil Brown and his prospects of making it

1157
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: out alive this season. Right, go back and listen to

1158
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: our West Virginia show. We have much more detail on

1159
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: where this programs hands a good number.

1160
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a kind of an even split in

1161
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: terms of where the winnable games are. But I think

1162
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: if you're West Virginia and you're looking at the schedule,

1163
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: you have to root for turbulence and airport delays and

1164
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: right that more can be far away, although it's not

1165
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: as far away with adding you know, UCF and Cincinnati

1166
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: to the conference that, yeah, you're rooting for travel difficulties

1167
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: for teams coming to Morgantown with long flights and like,

1168
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep at all. It's a noon kick or something. Otherwise, Yeah,

1169
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: it's a tough to get Penn State. Look, if you're

1170
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: gonna be at Penn State, you might as well get

1171
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: them week one, where weird things happen. But otherwise, oh man,

1172
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: it's tough.

1173
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: It's tough. Bad for him, I do.

1174
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: But it's just a no obvious quarterback, right, no obvious

1175
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: winning quarterback.

1176
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: It's just Yeah. The counterpoint is that you play some

1177
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: good teams. Yeah, get to watch some good football hopefully.

1178
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: And I guess the other counterpoint is if you look

1179
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: at the actual this is what we do for some

1180
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: of these teams. Like, what's the list of quarterbacks that

1181
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: scare you on West Virginia's schedule. Drew Allers should scare you, yeah,

1182
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: Phildrick Coovic, Tyler Schuck probably should scare you. Chandler Morris.

1183
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: We'll see Houston, We'll see Oklahoma State, probably not UCF,

1184
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: probably not BYU, probably not Cincinnati, probably not Taler, probably

1185
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: not I don't know.

1186
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Texas Tech. Texas Tech over

1187
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: under seven and a half. Yeah, pretty good number for

1188
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: Tech Tech was my all time forrest Gump team. A

1189
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: year ago. They were in the oddest crevasses for all

1190
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: of their opponents, traps and letdowns and sandwiches. The best

1191
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: I can say this year is that there are good buffers,

1192
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: buffers zone and a great set of home games. If

1193
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: you're a season ticket holder, it's great. Great Oregon, k State,

1194
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: and TCU all come to Lubbock this year. The road

1195
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: slate isn't terrible either, at Texas to close out the

1196
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: year on Black Friday. That could be a fun trip

1197
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: up from Lubbock. Got a road gaming there at Kansas,

1198
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: at BYU, at Baylor, at West Virginia, at Wyoming. Not terrible,

1199
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: all very workable here. A lot of this comes down

1200
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: to where Joe McGuire has this program, And you did

1201
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: the interview with Chris lovell M a few weeks back.

1202
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Go back and listen to that for more info and

1203
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: where the program is at. Again. We will reserve some

1204
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: of our prognostication here for our eventual previews. But yeah,

1205
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: there's some ammo on this schedule. You get some of

1206
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: those tough games at home, which is a nice little

1207
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: cherry on top. Can they get the eight wins with this,

1208
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Yes is my answer. I like Texas Tech this year.

1209
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: I like them just because of what returns what they

1210
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: flashed in year one. If they're able to go downfield

1211
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: on offense a bit more with a healthy Tyler Shuck, yeah,

1212
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I like them.

1213
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: I think the defense is going to get better now

1214
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: they lost their clear best defensive player Laves year, but

1215
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: from last year, I just I don't know. I think

1216
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: there's there's more to like about Texas Tech right now

1217
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: than there are a number of teams, most of which

1218
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: is due to a pretty awesome schedule.

1219
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now with with a healthy Tyler Shuck though, is

1220
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: carrying a lot of weight there.

1221
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: But the home road splits are pretty good in terms

1222
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: of taking the next step, and if the best of

1223
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: the defense flashes more often than it did last year,

1224
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough ish quarterback slate. I mean,

1225
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: it's what will Howard and bow Nix before the bye?

1226
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: It's a late by game, so maybe that at BYU

1227
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: game after seven straight games, that would be one I

1228
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: would circle be like, I don't know about that. That

1229
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: might be like a very obvious home dog pick for

1230
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: the Cougars there, But otherwise, yeah, I think they can

1231
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: definitely go Wait in four, for sure.

1232
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: Let's close the thing out with Iowa State. Iowa States

1233
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: over under just five and a half. I am extremely

1234
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: mixed on this, okay, and I come back to what

1235
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: I said earlier, how you feel about the Iowa State

1236
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: schedule probably says we're about you than it does about them.

1237
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know where I stand at Iowa State this year.

1238
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Playing Iowa week two is hard in the rivalry, the

1239
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Syhawk game, playing Oklahoma State playing at Oklahoma back home

1240
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: against TCU, that's a tough stretch. Oklahoma State Oklahoma TCU.

1241
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: Closing out with Texas on the road against Kansas State

1242
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: that's a tough stretch as well.

1243
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: Texas at home on the road against Kansas State is

1244
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: because you blended those two. That was a compound sentence, but.

1245
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, But also like Oklahoma State might be beatable

1246
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: sincey Baylor, Kansas BYU in the middle of the schedule

1247
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: might be beatable, there's some gumpiness here. Kansas get some

1248
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: after Oklahoma, Oklahoma gets them before Texas, Texas gets them

1249
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: after TCU. I can play the sound, but you get

1250
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: the picture. So it's it's really what you want to see.

1251
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: With Iowa State, isn't it.

1252
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see a quarterback and I want

1253
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: to see it. Whatever happens on offense, I mean they

1254
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: make the change it coordinator. But yeah, Iowa State to

1255
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: me is still a good They're a well coached team.

1256
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: I think Matt Campbell is not a you know, flash

1257
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: in the pan type guy. I think there's a reason

1258
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: why he has risen the floor, risen the floor that

1259
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: that might be English Ish for Iowa State. They have

1260
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: the Sihawk game at home. As you mentioned, Texas isn't

1261
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: a good place. That's in the shadow of Texas at TCU.

1262
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: It's the second straight road game. You tell me that's

1263
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: a you know, seventeen fifteen Iowa State win right now?

1264
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: Totally believable, Yeah, absolutely believable. Farmageddon on the road at

1265
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: BUYU feels like I'm just a believer in the altitude thing.

1266
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: So I think the Bowl eligible. I think they're better

1267
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: than they were last year. I just don't think if

1268
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: you are to believe Matt Campbell is a full on

1269
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: good coach, which I believe, I don't know where you

1270
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: stand right now after last year's offense, but I believe

1271
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: him to be a full on good, maybe not great,

1272
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: maybe a bit overinflated. Given his youth and the ability

1273
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: to get a traditionally uneven Iowa State program into a

1274
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: much better place, they would they win the Fiesta Bowl

1275
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty against Oregon if we believe him to be

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Speaker 2: a good coach. Good coaches don't miss bowls two straight years.

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Speaker 2: So I am I'm in on Iowa State as being

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Speaker 2: one of those teams that improves because the foundation is there,

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Speaker 2: the culture is there. This is not a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into their roster. You know what's what's back, what's not back.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's workable enough and situationally advantageous enough.

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Speaker 2: So I'm fine with Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: That does it. For the Big twelve, all fourteen teams now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: in the Big twelve, we eagerly await the rebrand from

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Speaker 1: brittin you or Mark who knows what happens? Who knows

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Speaker 1: what happens by the time I'm the season gets here.

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Speaker 1: With respect to this conference potentially getting bigger, we've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of wild tales on the Pac twelve media side,

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Speaker 1: and those rumors persist. They have not gotten softer, They've

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Speaker 1: only gotten a little bit louder. As we get deeper

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Speaker 1: into the summer months here, we'll do our best to

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Speaker 1: cover it if there is news to cover, but for

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Speaker 1: the time being, in a way fourteen teams Texas and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma there farewell. Tour will definitely be interesting to follow.

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Speaker 1: e rs dot com. As we said at the top,

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Speaker 1: we've got another schedule preview that we're going to do

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Speaker 1: for a next episode talking about G five teams. We're

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Speaker 1: going to pick out a sampling of ones that are

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Speaker 1: of interest to us and delve a little bit more

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Speaker 1: into their schedules and what the future might hold for them. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give out our win total picks. We've got

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Speaker 1: a fun show planned for that. Eventually we're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: right into preview content. It's getting to that time of year. Man,

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you one final question about the Big twelve? Please?

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Speaker 2: And I think this underscores our whole conversation. Four and

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Speaker 2: a half good quarterbacks as of today.

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Speaker 1: Quinn viewers Will Howard, Dylan Gabriel, yep, Jalen Daniels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's four.

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Speaker 2: I have Tyler Shuck as the half just because one

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Speaker 2: his time at Oregon wasn't particularly pretty at the end

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Speaker 2: of games, and two he gets beat up and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: That's what I have four and a half. Which who

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Speaker 2: makes me think there are going to be a number

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Speaker 2: of teams between five and seven and seven and five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask if there are multiple half

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks if they add up to one. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you can make a half case for Tyler Shuck if

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Speaker 1: he's healthy. That's what my case is. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: make a You can make a case for Blake Shapen

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Speaker 1: if he gets a little bit more consistent.

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Speaker 2: When it was announced that he won the job, Baylor

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Speaker 2: fans were like, oh god, really.

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Speaker 1: Kelvis, if we get back to the speak with your

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Speaker 1: knowledge Loins, my knowledge Lewins would say, no, yeah, my

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Speaker 1: knowledge Loins would take the under Yeah, yeah, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: four and a half, which is both great and a

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Speaker 1: bit of a bummer. Let us know your thoughts out

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Speaker 1: on social media for that guy there, My good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, form myself tyhled Brandt join in next episode

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Speaker 1: of Top G five, They Saw Peace.