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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I got my own all time great, Carrie Rhoades in

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Speaker 3: here today. Mark Willard with you, LeVar and TJ and

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Speaker 3: plaques are out, but Carrie is here, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: start right off by talking about another all time great.

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Speaker 3: And her name's not Caitlin, and his name's not Brawny,

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Speaker 3: and her name's not Taylor. However, all of them are

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Speaker 3: going to be wrapped into the conversation because I'm told

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Speaker 3: that that is a contractual obligation. In twenty twenty four, Hey,

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Speaker 3: good morning, Carrie. How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Mark? Doing well?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's always a pleasure and always a good

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Speaker 5: time when we're on together.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what we can throw out to the world today.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that would make me more excited is

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Speaker 3: if when I looked at my calendar it said August

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Speaker 3: or September rather than July, right, because then there would

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Speaker 3: actually be people in pads and they would have helmets

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Speaker 3: and we would be playing the dang thing. But we're close,

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Speaker 3: tire buying should be. Here's my question to start off, Carrie,

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Speaker 3: where's the apology? And I don't mean from you, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mark, thank you, thank you. Now there's a

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Speaker 3: man who's been in a relationship. You're just like, I'm

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Speaker 3: saying sorry. I don't even know why, man, I'm sorry. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, here's here's where the apology is necessary. I've

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Speaker 3: been racking my brain in our lifetimes to think about

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Speaker 3: what is the closest comp to what Tiger Woods did

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Speaker 3: for golf. Now, Tiger it's hard to watch now. He

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Speaker 3: can't make a cut. You know, I get it. But

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Speaker 3: if you look at the history of Tiger Woods, it's

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Speaker 3: different than a lot of other all time greats in

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Speaker 3: their sport because it's not just wow, that person's one

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Speaker 3: of the best ever, if not the best ever. We

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Speaker 3: could do that with Brady or Mahomes or whatever, Lebron

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Speaker 3: or Steph. But here's where it's different. Tiger Woods walked

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Speaker 3: in and do his sport. The establishment looked at him,

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Speaker 3: from a number of angles and went, this kid, Why

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Speaker 3: is everybody so excited about this kid?

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Speaker 4: And then a few years went by and people went.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fine, he's really good, but can we still talk

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Speaker 3: about me sometimes? And then a few more years went

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Speaker 3: by and people acknowledged, well, yeah, that's the best ever.

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Speaker 3: And then a few more years went by and people went,

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Speaker 3: thank you, Tiger. All I want to say is think

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Speaker 3: you're my best friend, Tiger, because all of us in

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Speaker 3: the golf community have three more bedroom in our house,

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Speaker 3: we have one or two more cars, we or whatever

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Speaker 3: finances mean to you. Tiger Woods made the individual in

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Speaker 3: golf millions upon millions of dollars. And then look what's

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Speaker 3: happened in the next generation with livegolf, and now there

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Speaker 3: is just there's gajillions everywhere. Yeah, and you can draw

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Speaker 3: all of that to Tiger Woods. So wnba, where's the

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Speaker 3: apology to Kate lecclark for all of the talk leading

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Speaker 3: up to Oh, she's got to prove it. Wait until

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Speaker 3: she plays against adults, Like, I know she's good, but

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Speaker 3: this ain't college. If you're gonna see when you get

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Speaker 3: you're gonna see what you're looking already. One of the

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Speaker 3: best players in the league. She's breaking records. And the

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Speaker 3: TV deal. Did you see the TV deal?

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Speaker 2: A lot of money?

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Speaker 3: Okay, right now? Make sixty million dollars per year. This

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Speaker 3: is unconfirmed, it's only a report at this time, and

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Speaker 3: in fact, some within the WNBA think this.

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Speaker 4: Is too little.

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Speaker 3: But the new deal that's going to start in a

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Speaker 3: year and a half is going to go from sixty

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Speaker 3: million to two hundred million or more. That will filter

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Speaker 3: straight down to players salaries. You are welcome, WNBA establishment,

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny about that is, yes, I think

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Speaker 5: there is there is a right of passage, right, so

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Speaker 5: the young the young hots player that comes into the league.

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Speaker 5: Obviously there have been scenarios similar this is a standalone

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Speaker 5: situation when it comes to the WNBA. Right, We've seen

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Speaker 5: it in football, We've seen it in baseball.

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Speaker 2: We've seen nothing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen people try to give that right

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Speaker 5: and we've see how that's worked out in the past. Right,

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Speaker 5: I think with the Kaitlyn Clark situation and wait and see,

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Speaker 5: and this is a different step up that type of talk,

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Speaker 5: and that's talk, and that type of chatter is normal.

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Speaker 2: I think it happens all the time.

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Speaker 5: I think where the disdain came, and I think where

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Speaker 5: you're saying what the apology needs to come here, is

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Speaker 5: that the time that she's been able to acquiesce to

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Speaker 5: now find her footing and start to play like the

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Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark that we you know, that we grew to

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Speaker 5: love watching in the college basketball game. It takes time,

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Speaker 5: and so the apologies can come a little after this.

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Speaker 5: I actually like the way that they try to ruffle

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Speaker 5: her feathers a little bit and get under a skin

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Speaker 5: a little bit and see if she's worthy of that crown.

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Speaker 5: Because I am a a I'm a big proponent in

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Speaker 5: not giving things praise right away. So for me, I

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Speaker 5: wasn't on the bandwagon, I mean on the bandwaggon of

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Speaker 5: she needs her flowers right now. I wanted to see

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Speaker 5: it started off a little slow. Obviously it is. It

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Speaker 5: is a transition, but right now she's playing some really

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Speaker 5: great basketball and you cannot deny the ratings, you cannot

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Speaker 5: deny the money that's coming here, and you can't deny

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Speaker 5: the eyeballs and just the chatter that you hear on

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Speaker 5: that was non existent, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: And actually those are some really good points, because I'm

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Speaker 3: not in favor of somebody, you know, getting things for free.

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Speaker 3: You've got to earn it. You've got all of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny that we're having so many conversations

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Speaker 3: whatever it is I mean for these two players, and

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Speaker 3: you can get like if you leave all the context

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Speaker 3: out of it, I wonder, especially men, I wonder if

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Speaker 3: you can at least just acknowledge for a second, even

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Speaker 3: though I understand the context and I don't need your

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Speaker 3: Can you understand why it would frustrate the female sports

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Speaker 3: world that Caitlin Clark and Bronnie James both walk into

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Speaker 4: Can you understand why that might upset someone.

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Speaker 2: I would hope so, oh absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and you know, we talk about Bronnie and

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Speaker 5: I really, to be honest, you don't deserve as a

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Speaker 2: You have to earn it.

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Speaker 5: And that's part of what this conversation is, right, that

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Speaker 5: is part of what the second round process. And you know,

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Speaker 5: going through the grind and going through some ofer league

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Speaker 5: and all those things, it makes it matter a little

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Speaker 5: a different energy. And so you know, you talk about

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Speaker 5: Branni planning in the Summer League. Guy knew he was

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Speaker 5: and so he's got a comfort he's got a comfort zone,

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Speaker 5: a comfort zone area there where I mean, he can

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Speaker 5: that they were going to rough him up and it

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Speaker 5: do want him to succeed. And it's not because of

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Speaker 5: any of that. Like, I want him to succeed because

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Speaker 5: of now the position he's been put in by his dad.

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Speaker 5: All the vitriol's gonna come his way, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 5: But I want him to be able to prove on

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Speaker 5: his own as a man, stand alone from that brand.

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Speaker 5: I always call Lebron James the brand. Stand alone from

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough sledging for him.

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Speaker 4: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm rooting for him because I root for people

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Speaker 3: until they give me a reason not to, and he

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Speaker 3: certainly has not given anybody a reason not to. The

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Speaker 3: situation and the person are two totally different things here.

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Speaker 3: But back to the Caitlin thing, Like, I think you're

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Speaker 3: completely right, there's no issue with any establishment seeing somebody

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Speaker 3: you're gonna need to prove it. But I do wonder

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Speaker 3: and I actually think we've seen a little bit of

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Speaker 3: an adjustment already. I mean, she's played how many games,

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Speaker 3: twenty six games in the span of twenty six games,

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Speaker 3: I do feel like the tone sounds different. There were

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Speaker 3: like remember where we were five weeks ago, it was

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Speaker 3: like people are shoving around the court and it's not okay, right,

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Speaker 3: like all of that, And now now it is a

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Speaker 3: little there's a little bit more respect. Yes, you're seeing right,

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Speaker 3: the Fever are winning games. It's like, okay, you've gone

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Speaker 3: through your initiation process. But I do wonder and we

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Speaker 3: will move Angel Reese into this conversation too, because I

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Speaker 3: know she would like half of the credit, and so fine,

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Speaker 3: Angel can have half of the credit if she wants.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is is I know that a

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Speaker 3: lot wanted to make this about basketball, and I would

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Speaker 3: think at the end of the day, for most of

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Speaker 3: the people who work in that league, this isn't even

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Speaker 3: about basketball. This is about money. Yeah, this is about money.

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Speaker 3: And she will, I believe, go down as the most

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Speaker 3: important player in WNBA history, no matter what her stats are.

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Speaker 5: Man, you're you would be one hundred percent correct to

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Speaker 5: say that. And that's and what you just said. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the caveat is it's not about basketball. We've seen great

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Speaker 5: WNBA players before. We've seen great WNBA teams and dynasties.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen we've seen that stuff. If you've

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Speaker 5: actually paid attention to it, which I don't think a

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Speaker 5: lot of the world has until now. What there has

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Speaker 5: been that but what she's done to bring recognition, And

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Speaker 5: like you said, let's let's get to the bottom line here,

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Speaker 5: it's money. The money that she's brought to that league

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Speaker 5: where it's been starved of. That is just it's nothing

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Speaker 5: we've seen before.

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Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark the Tiger Woods of the WNBA already in

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Speaker 3: twenty six games, no question about it to me. All right,

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Speaker 3: coming up next, and again it's Mark Willen and Kerry

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Speaker 3: Rhodes in for the up on game. Guys, coming up next,

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Speaker 3: the three biggest stars of sports in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: are not your traditional stars. It is Caitlin Clark, It's

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Speaker 3: Brownie James, and then the third person will unveil coming

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Speaker 3: up next, and then we need to have a conversation

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Speaker 3: with regard to what that says about us as fans.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's where we are right now.

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Speaker 3: You could argue, would it still hold if there wasn't gambling?

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Speaker 3: Are you just there because you root for that team?

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Speaker 4: But most sports I.

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Speaker 3: Hear seasons too long, nobody talks about it anymore.

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Speaker 4: Nobody talks hockey anymore.

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Speaker 3: I like you and I, and I'm a little older

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Speaker 3: We see where that's going, But what is this going

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Speaker 8: back Sam Burns. He was minus six today and he's

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Speaker 8: part of a four way tie for six at three under.

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Speaker 8: Scottie Scheffler part of that group as well, and has

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Speaker 8: saw a lot of notable names there in the top

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Speaker 8: ten at the Open Championship earlier.

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Speaker 9: See Wu Kim.

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Speaker 4: He aced the two.

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Speaker 8: Hundred and thirty eight yard par three to seventeenth hole.

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Speaker 8: That's the longest hole in one in the history of

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Speaker 8: the Open. We got the Olympics coming up next week.

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Speaker 8: Rofen Nadal gearing up. He's playing a clay court tournament

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Speaker 8: in Sweden. He has advanced to Sunday's final. It's Nadal's

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Speaker 8: first tournament final since the twenty twenty two French Open.

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Speaker 8: They also have American sprinter Noah Lyles. He just ran

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Speaker 8: a personal best nine to eight to one in one

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Speaker 8: hundred meters winning an Olympic tune up in London, and

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Speaker 8: of course USA basketball has its own Olympic tune up

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Speaker 8: in London today. You can watch it three Eastern on

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Speaker 8: Fox when they take on South Sudan. Kevin Durant is

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Speaker 8: questionable to play as he recovers from a calf injury.

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Speaker 8: He only just practiced with the team for the first

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Speaker 8: time yesterday. So that's what we got, Mark and carry

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Speaker 8: back to you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Nick, great stuff, Thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 3: You know, he mentions Team USA. There's another one. Okay,

461
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Speaker 3: the Olympics are about to start now. How would you

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Speaker 3: gauge your excitement level here?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's around a three for sure.

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Speaker 4: Three.

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Speaker 2: It's very low, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's not a scale of four, is it right? This

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Speaker 3: is I assume a scale of ten.

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Speaker 5: It is, it's ten, it's ten. It's around Okay, three

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Speaker 5: point three? Is that a little better?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I didn't need for it to go up, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a good couple of sentences.

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Speaker 4: Went all the way up to three point three.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm kind of I'm kind of with you for

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Speaker 3: multiple reasons, and I know, like the one here in

476
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Speaker 3: sports radio, and it's the Olympics. It's all sports, but

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Speaker 3: we largely talk about basketball.

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Speaker 4: And I do think there's some intrigue.

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Speaker 3: With the w NBA structure of the All Star festivities

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Speaker 3: later tonight where you're gonna get w NBA All Stars

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Speaker 3: against Team USA, and that's got fun, like that's an

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Speaker 3: actual barometer competition kind.

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Speaker 4: Of a thing. But as a fan, and I know

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Speaker 4: you're a.

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Speaker 3: MAVs guy, yes, yes, And as a fan of the

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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors, I have one goal for these Olympics

487
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Speaker 3: and one goal only death, come back, come home, healthy, period.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what color the metal is that's around

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Speaker 3: your neck for you, I'd love for it to be

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Speaker 3: a gold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If that's something you want, great.

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Speaker 3: But Game four of the NBA season matters more to

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Speaker 3: me than this. And if that makes me unpatriotic, I apologize.

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Speaker 3: That's to sorry.

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Speaker 2: Feel No, I get it, man.

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Speaker 5: The intrigue around the the Olympic basketball team that's faltered.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 5: I mean back in the day again, you talk about

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Speaker 5: in our heyday, in our in our days, maybe like

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Speaker 5: the early nineties for me, you know, seeing the dream

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Speaker 5: team and then seeing the redeemed team and having those

503
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Speaker 5: storylines it was kind of cool, right, and you also

504
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Speaker 5: had you know, you know, in those early dream teams,

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Speaker 5: that was the first time we saw all the pros

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Speaker 5: and all the top pros play, so that was interesting.

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Speaker 5: So the first time you watch it, it's cool redeemed

508
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Speaker 5: team that they struggled, had I had a hard time winning.

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Speaker 5: They lost, so you actually had to you wanted to

510
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Speaker 5: look to see if we could ever get back to dominance,

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Speaker 5: so whatever, like there were storylines attached. So it also

512
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Speaker 5: kind of lends to the conversation we would just have it.

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Speaker 5: It's not just about the sport. It's the storylines with

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Speaker 5: the sport, and you can take it all the way

515
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Speaker 5: back to those times and so now you know it's

516
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Speaker 5: nobody cares about Lebron and Steph finally playing together. They're

517
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Speaker 5: trying to push that storyline like I don't care. That

518
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Speaker 5: doesn't move the needle, you know what I mean. So again,

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Speaker 5: it's a storyline attached to something that we've already seen.

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Speaker 5: We know that they're dominant, we know that they're really

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Speaker 5: good and they should win. If they lose, I think

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Speaker 5: that'll be the bigger storyline. But yeah, there's no real

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Speaker 5: intrigue there.

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Speaker 3: Man, tyreck dot Com Studios, Mark Willard, Kerry Rhodes with

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Speaker 3: you in for the guys here on up on Game.

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Speaker 3: You just brought up something quick aside here because I

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Speaker 3: love that you said that they're trying to push that

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Speaker 3: story of Steph and Lebron playing together and not just

529
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Speaker 3: in the Olympics. Oh yeah, like you're hearing the opinions.

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Speaker 3: I saw Nick Wright throw this out. I think they

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Speaker 3: want to play together. Here's what I'd say. I think

532
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Speaker 3: we really struggle in this country to move on at

533
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Speaker 3: the right time from athletes. And that's not to say

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Speaker 3: that Steph and Lebron are not playing at an incredibly

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Speaker 3: high level. But at the same time, when I look

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Speaker 3: at their teams right now and I go, okay, one

537
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Speaker 3: of them keeps ending up in the play in tournament

538
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Speaker 3: and the other one kind of also keeps ending up

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Speaker 3: in the playing tournament. If I put them together. If

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Speaker 3: you've get playing tournament and you combine it with play

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Speaker 3: in tournament, Carrie, I think you still get playing tournament.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a math major, but I think that's how

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Speaker 3: that works, you know what I mean. I don't know

545
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Speaker 3: if we all these are the two ratings drivers in

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Speaker 3: the NBA over the last decade, and just like Tiger

547
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Speaker 3: was in golf, And I don't know if we fully

548
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Speaker 3: know what to do with them when they clearly become

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Speaker 3: kind of the second story within their own sport.

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Speaker 5: Mark, I got a question for you really quickly, let's go.

551
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Speaker 5: And so it's about that we were talking about this,

552
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Speaker 5: I think maybe two days ago. But how do you

553
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Speaker 5: feel about when you have a superior athlete, one that

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Speaker 5: we've grown to love, not be able to play at

555
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Speaker 5: the level they once played at?

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Speaker 2: Like when do you hang it up? When do you

557
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: think it's time to hang it up?

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Speaker 5: Do you try to keep fighting and try to scratch

559
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Speaker 5: and claw to get a couple more or do you

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Speaker 5: want them to ride off and that high and it's onset.

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Speaker 3: I've always been someone who I don't feel right telling

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Speaker 3: people when to stop if there are still companies out

563
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Speaker 3: there that want to hire them to do it, do

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So like, I don't I

565
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: don't particularly have any great memories of Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: On the Wizards. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have those those memories. I wasn't alive for

568
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Speaker 3: Willy Mays. But I've always been told Willy Mays on

569
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Speaker 3: the Mets was not as cool. Yes, and so I

570
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Speaker 3: think as a fan you don't love it. But what

571
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Speaker 3: you're asking is in that moment, not looking back on.

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Speaker 4: It, Yes, in that moment, how do you feel?

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Speaker 3: And I think how I usually feel is, dude, keep

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Speaker 3: playing and if there's even just little moments of your.

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Speaker 4: Magic, we'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: I like, let's look at Tiger right now.

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Speaker 3: Colin Montgomery, for those of you who don't know golf,

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Speaker 3: he's kind of an outspoken European golfer, big Ryder Cup

580
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Speaker 3: voice twenty years ago and a great player, but he

581
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Speaker 3: never won a major. And he came out this week

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Speaker 3: and was like, what is Tiger doing? Don't don't keep playing?

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Speaker 3: This is this is an embarrassment. And Tiger's response to

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Speaker 3: that was, Colin, you're not exempt here at the Open Championship,

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Speaker 3: so you shush and I'll go play.

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Speaker 4: But let's also be real. Tiger goes out there and

587
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Speaker 4: it's we're.

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Speaker 3: Shooting seventy eight and eighty two's and do you want

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Speaker 3: him to stop?

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Speaker 5: It's hard to say stop because with the golf you

591
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: can keep fine tuning in and you can play. And

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00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 5: for him he has chances to play in all the majors,

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Speaker 5: so he doesn't have to play all the I guess

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Speaker 5: the required tournaments to get to that point, right, So

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Speaker 5: he has, like, like you said, a little exemption and

596
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Speaker 5: so he could deliver some magic in one of these

597
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Speaker 5: tournaments down the line. So I do get that, but

598
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Speaker 5: it is painful to see him not be Tiger and

599
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Speaker 5: fifth pumping and looking like just the alpha out there.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's tough for me. It's tough for me

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Speaker 2: to watch, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm glad the name Steph Curry came

603
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Speaker 3: up here. Here's an example, and maybe this isn't the

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Speaker 3: perfect one because they were still really good.

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Speaker 4: But that Golden State Warriors.

606
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: Group, they were told three and four years ago when

607
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Durant left, they were told, dude, you guys are done,

608
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: this is over.

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Speaker 4: And they went one another one.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I'll take those you know, Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 3: You'll never win another major. Oh wait, except for I

612
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: will win the Masters one more time, like you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. So that's sort of whimsical, But that's

614
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Speaker 3: the way I look at it, Like I'm here to

615
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Speaker 3: see if you can just capture that magic again.

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Speaker 4: One more time.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, no, I get it. I get that. It's yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, No, you got it, you got it.

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Speaker 3: No, Well, I was just gonna I was gonna set

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Speaker 3: us up to continue the conversation next because that is

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Speaker 3: Kerry Rhodes and and I'm Mark Willard. I mentioned what

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Speaker 3: is this going to look like watching all of these

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Speaker 3: sports on a television set going forward?

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Speaker 4: And I want to run something by you with an idea.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that coming up next up on Game in

626
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Speaker 3: for the guys on Fox Sports Radio. All right, glad

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Speaker 3: you're with us today, and for the guys, I'm up

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: on game and with Carrie Rhoades.

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Speaker 4: I'm Mark Withard.

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Speaker 3: Glad you are with us as your weekend get started.

631
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Speaker 4: Hope it's beautiful wherever.

632
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 3: You are, and and you're out and about and maybe

633
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: listening to us with the air pods or or whatever

634
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: it may be. Thank you, Thank you, We appreciate you. Look,

635
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: maybe this is already happening and my head is just

636
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: in the sand. And maybe I shouldn't say this out loud,

637
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: because who knows, Maybe I'd be a billionaire if I

638
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: just found a way to do this. But like Carrie,

639
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: when you watch TV. Do you also have your phone

640
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: right there with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely right?

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00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and and and do you have a hard

643
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Speaker 3: time focusing on one or the other or do you

644
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: go back and forth or how does that work?

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00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 5: There's days when I start a movie and it's an

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Speaker 5: eight hour movie for sure because I'm because I'm going

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Speaker 5: back and forth from that to the to the device.

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't happen all the time.

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Speaker 5: I can streamline my attention on something if I need to,

651
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Speaker 5: but if I don't need to, yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: probably go back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Man, So God, I hate.

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Speaker 4: This about us, but right this is where we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: We're hypocritical because I do it to my kids.

657
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Speaker 3: They'll be sitting there and I'll be like one screen,

658
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: one screen, like one at a time.

659
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: You know, and then I'm doing the exact same thing.

660
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: All right.

661
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: So let's take into sports, and I realize that a

662
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: lot of people we've had such a huge rise in

663
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: sports gambling and so many states that are legalizing it,

664
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: and I don't really see long term how all the

665
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: states don't legalize it because it's going to mean too

666
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: much money to those states and they all need it

667
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. So there's that. And I know

668
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: you can grab your phone and watch the game and

669
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: live bet the game on your phone, but how long

670
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: until the game is actually the video game?

671
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: So how hard.

672
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: Is it parents to get your kids to sit down

673
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: and watch a game with you because they want to

674
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: go actually play the video game version of the sport.

675
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: My oldest son is most he loves all sports and

676
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: will go to games and watch games, but like, I've

677
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: never seen him more excited about baseball than the Home

678
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: Run Derby and the All Star Game.

679
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: And You're like, what, your kid's weird, and I'm like,

680
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: I know he's weird, right, No.

681
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: The reason is is baseball in the Home Run Derby

682
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: and the All Star Game attaches the performance of the

683
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: real players to the video game MLB the show, right,

684
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: And whatever they do in the derby, poof the numbers

685
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: go up and the available ability of different cards and

686
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: aspects and things in the video game changes based on

687
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: what happens in the real game.

688
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there going, well, this is what baseball.

689
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: Needs to do. It's what all sports need to do.

690
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: You need to turn your game into the video game itself.

691
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: So instead of the phone, how far are we carry

692
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: from a gizmo that you're gonna hold in your hand

693
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: and on the right bar of your television screen like

694
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: almost like a Manning cast. Yeah, but over there are

695
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: are betting options for every play, for every play, and

696
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: or or even like pretend you're the coach, what play

697
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: are you going to run?

698
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: And then there's a financial aspect to being right or wrong?

699
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: Come on, Mark, taking I know sounds awful, doesn't it.

700
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: It also sounds like an inch away.

701
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: And you're probably right.

702
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 5: You're probably right, Mark, That's it's such a scary idea.

703
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: But I would see that.

704
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen some things already just as far

705
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: as like the headsets or the Octulus headsets, right being

706
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: attached to certain to certain to certain broadcasts or games,

707
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: and you're sitting court side at the game on your TV,

708
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: so you're literally at the game court side, so you

709
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: don't have to step outside your house, you don't have

710
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: to have the experience of going to buy the ticket

711
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: or being there. I'm sure it's going to be a

712
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: point where you can actually have the smells and have

713
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 5: the senses of being there as well. It's just it

714
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: blows my mind and I don't want to think about it,

715
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 5: but since for the sake of our conversation at the moment,

716
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: I think it would be a terrible idea. But I

717
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 5: know it's a world where that, where that exists, where

718
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: it's a great idea too. But I'm a I'm a

719
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: little old school and appearers when they come to that,

720
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: I want to actually either be at the game present

721
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: and be in it and have that organic feel, authentic feel,

722
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: or be at home and have that authentic field which

723
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: we usually can have and used to could have as well.

724
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: Carrie, You're one hundred percent right. I'm going to hell

725
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: for this idea. I know this. I'm going to hell.

726
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: This is awful. But I also think I think that's.

727
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 4: Where we're headed.

728
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's where we're headed, where the interactivity

729
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: of the game, whatever video game you're playing, sports gaming,

730
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: and the game itself all become one thing. And and

731
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: you know, I look again, I don't have all of

732
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: the you know, like I don't have the tiniest little

733
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: random sample of what teenagers look like in my house.

734
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: Like I've only got two teenagers and one who's not

735
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: there yet, but watching them, observing the way they do

736
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: this and their friends like, oh my god, they'd go

737
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: crazy over that, which is awful.

738
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: All right.

739
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: The question is the question to you is do you

740
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 5: think it's coming. You probably think you're probably right, it's

741
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 5: probably right around the corner. Will you partake in it

742
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 5: to have some linear connection to the sport or to

743
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 5: the sports with your with your kids.

744
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: I'd sort of liking it to going on a roller

745
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: coaster with your kids when you're you're you don't like

746
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: roller coasters anymore, because, by the way, that's a thing,

747
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 3: like everybody loves roller coasters when you're fifteen, and when

748
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: you're twenty five, and possibly when you're thirty five.

749
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 4: I'm forty nine now, and.

750
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: I still like them, not as much as I used to.

751
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: I know a lot of women in my life who say,

752
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: once you have a child, once you go through pregnancy,

753
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: can't stand them anymore. Like my sister used to love

754
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: them now absolutely will not go. But I liking it

755
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: to that where it's like, I'll come, dabble, you want

756
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: me to go on the roller coaster with you one time? Fine,

757
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm not going eight times. Like I'm not right, I'm

758
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: not going get right down right. So that's what I

759
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: would that's probably what I would do.

760
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's and I would think that you would.

761
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: I would see that.

762
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 5: I mean I could see the fathers or the fathers

763
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 5: or the mothers in that situation going down that ride

764
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 5: or taking that you know, doing that live gamble bet

765
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: thing with with their with their kids.

766
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: But will you become addicted?

767
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: That's part of the process, right, so well, you know,

768
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: like that's part of why people do the gambling or

769
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 5: the live betting. Like for me, if I was to

770
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm not a big I'm not a big gambler. But

771
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 5: if I was to bet on the game and it's

772
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 5: not looking good, I'm not doubling down, you know what

773
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: I mean, Like, I'm not I don't want to live

774
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: bet it. It's it's over. I've lost, you know, in

775
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: my mind exactly. But people do that. So that's the

776
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: crazy part.

777
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to win it back. Good luck, all right. Yeah,

778
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: there's an inevitability to it. I think at least that's

779
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: how it feels for the individual. He Shortly after the show,

780
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786
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Speaker 3: watching Receivers on Netflix and there's some big questions about

788
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789
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Speaker 3: set the table for you. Carry first and foremost, have

799
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: you seen any of the episodes of the Netflix doc Receivers.

800
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 5: I'm going to be in the minority here, I'm guessing,

801
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 5: but I have seen zero episodes of the receiver so far.

802
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: But I will watch it.

803
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure you're actually

804
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: in the major majority, but I get it in our

805
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: sports media echo chamber maybe, but I'm I am three

806
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: episodes in and for those not familiar with what it is,

807
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: it is profiling and following the career and a little

808
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: bit uh the outside of career lives. But it's mostly

809
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: it's football. It's football stuff for the most part. But

810
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: it's five players. Oddly, one of them is not a receiver,

811
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: although he catches. He catches passes. That's George Kittle and

812
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: his teammate Deebo Samuel is also in there. I'm on

813
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brown of the Lions, Justin Jefferson of the Vikings,

814
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: and DeVante Adams of the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay, that's

815
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: question one. Yeah, Question two is this, what are your

816
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: thoughts on what has happened to the wide receiver market

817
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 3: in the NFL?

818
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 5: You know what, It's become such a the offenses are

819
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 5: so spread out now, right, so anybody can be a

820
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 5: quote unquote receiving threat. Now where you know, in my days, right,

821
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 5: you had your three receivers, you had your two tight ends,

822
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: you had your two backs, like you changed personnels a

823
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: little bit, a little bit more as a whole. When

824
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: it comes to the game, it was a little bit more,

825
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: a little bit more of a physical game, and you

826
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 5: have probably one alpha at the receiver position. Nowadays they've

827
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 5: opened that up right, like they're trying to accumulate as

828
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 5: many alphas at that position as they can to spread

829
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: it out. So you'll see some of these receivers going through,

830
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 5: you know, not being able to get their market value

831
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 5: because their other teammate already has that, and so it's

832
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 5: just making that market a little bit more thin for

833
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: those guys that think they're the number ones on their

834
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: teams when the other guy's already been paid, like already

835
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 5: being paid that way, So the money is just harder

836
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: to come by. And so the position actually because there

837
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: are so many skilled guys out there at those spots,

838
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 5: like they feel that you're expendable and they can bring

839
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 5: somebody in who can feel those positions and do just

840
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 5: as much damage because they're passing the ball so much

841
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 5: that the numbers will at the end of the day

842
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: probably stack up to yours. So the value is a

843
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: little down there when it comes to being that I

844
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 5: guess quote unquote number one guy.

845
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: If that make.

846
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: Sense, it totally does.

847
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: Here's what's fascinating to me and why I think, I

848
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: don't know if the bubble's going to burst, Like just

849
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: look at the arc of the way these documentaries have

850
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: been released.

851
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: The first one was quarterbacks.

852
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that makes sense because that quarterback is the

853
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: biggest star and all of that.

854
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: Well, here's the next one. It's receivers.

855
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: And I would argue that in the NFL, and part

856
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: of this is fantasy football, part of it is also

857
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: just the swagger.

858
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: That so many of them bring.

859
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: But I'd argue that the wide receivers are largely the

860
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: second biggest celebrities in the NFL behind quarterbacks.

861
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: However, would you or would.

862
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: You not argue that they are, that they are not

863
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: the second most important position when it comes to winning

864
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: football games.

865
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No, No, when it comes to winning football games,

866
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 5: it's upfront. So the big guys would be second when

867
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: it comes to that, because none of the none of

868
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 5: the other stuff matters if you can't operate or get

869
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: the ball out or protect the quarterbacks. So I would

870
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: say upfront, it's it would be second upfront, and especially

871
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: in today's game, like I just said, it's so many

872
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: other options. It's not just the one guy that you

873
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 5: don't have. And you have some of these guys on

874
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 5: some of the teams, but you don't have a Randy

875
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: Moss or a Calvin Johnson. You have a couple of

876
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 5: old guys on your team, right, and so you have

877
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: to spread it out. But if you're not able to

878
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: protect it, it doesn't work anyway. So I would say

879
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 5: it would be the big uglies that would be the second,

880
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 5: the second most important on the field.

881
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I've had conversation with coaches and it's like, remove the names,

882
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: forget the marketing, and just tell me, like, you could

883
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: have a great player at position X, what would you

884
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: take first? And all of them are going to say

885
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: quarterback And then I'm like, okay, what's next? And most

886
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: of them will say edge rusher, yeah, some of them

887
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 3: would say left tackle, some of them would say star cornerback.

888
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: Nobody has ever said wide receiver, right, And.

889
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: If we look at recent Super Bowl success, what story

890
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: gets told often? And when I say recent, let's go

891
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: back the last couple of decades. You've got the Patriots dynasty.

892
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: What did Tom Brady do? Tom Brady took a pay

893
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: cut and essentially never had great receivers.

894
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: There was Randy Moss, but they didn't win a Super Bowl.

895
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: We even win it, you know, like he won with

896
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: all the other guys from Dion Branch to Julian Edelman

897
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: to whatever. Yes, and then you go to the Chiefs

898
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: and they win a super Bowl with Tyreek Hill and

899
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: then they tell him to hit the road and they

900
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: win two more. And so I'm looking at this and

901
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: I'm going, Carrie, why why are they now with the

902
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson contract the second highest paid.

903
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: Position on the field. I know, we know them.

904
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: They're fun, they're exciting fantasy football. They are not imperative

905
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: to winning. So why are we breaking off thirty to

906
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: thirty five million a year for this player?

907
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

908
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the production of it, though, Mark.

909
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: I think it's that the I guess the marketability, right,

910
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: the the the personas that they have, and I think

911
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: when you do that and you can, you're able to

912
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: put those guys in the forefront the marketability, right, you

913
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 5: have those situations happen where they're recognizable. They look more

914
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: like the average person, and you know, not the average,

915
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 5: but they look like the normal mill that you can

916
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: see they look relatable right, like they're not. They're usually

917
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: what six ' two I mean just now, like a

918
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: six to two guy two hundred pounds, Like you can

919
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: be walking in the streets and be like, oh, I

920
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 5: could relate to that guy. And so you talk about

921
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 5: the relatable part of it, right, so you can market them,

922
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: you can put them out there. They're obviously making plays

923
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 5: the fantasy football stuff, which is huge, but.

924
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: I think it's that reason.

925
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: And I also think when you talk about the safeties

926
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 5: or the elite cornerbacks in the league, where it would

927
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: be the same thing, like you could see that guy

928
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 5: and be like, oh, he has a great personality and

929
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 5: somebody I want to know, I want to get to

930
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: know more of, and you can put them in the

931
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 5: front and market them. And so I think a lot

932
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: of that comes from that as well. Being obviously production matters,

933
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 5: but also being able to be put in front of

934
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: the shield, in front of the league sometimes to bring

935
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: more attention to the game also matters as well.

936
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm not here to tell you they're

937
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 3: not important and the game is becoming a passing game

938
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: and so they're very big, but would I have had

939
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: this observation. Let's take a look at the teams you mentioned,

940
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: the teams that don't necessarily want to pay two receivers.

941
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: It's one thing to pay one. Okay, Vikings, you're paying

942
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson. I'd love to talk to me in three

943
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: years when Jordan Addison needs a new deal, Right, go ahead.

944
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm especially because of his off the field problems.

945
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: I'm all predict right now that Jordan is not a

946
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: Viking in three years because the smart team like, look,

947
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: look who's paying two. The Eagles are paying two. The

948
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: Dolphins are paying too. What did both of them have

949
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: in common?

950
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: In January, they're at home. Bye, You're one and done.

951
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: See you later.

952
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: But meantime, meantime, here's the forty nine ers and they

953
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: haven't gotten over the top, but they're on the precipice of.

954
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 4: Having to pay two. And what do you see them doing?

955
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: No, No, we're not going to pay two.

956
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna pay one.

957
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: And we're either gonna trade one of you or we're

958
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: gonna cut one of you and we're gonna leverage this.

959
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: We're not paying two. What did the chiefs do? They're like,

960
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: we're not even gonna pay one. How about that, We're

961
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: not even gonna pay one. We're gonna make a better

962
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: defense and and we're going to win again.

963
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

964
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: So I like.

965
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: This is a little too simplistic, but you know it

966
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: doesn't work in every situation. The Bengals, Yeah, we're not

967
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: paying two, We're gonna pay one. We'll pay two for

968
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: one year or not paying two for five years. Baltimore Ravens.

969
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: Tell me about all of their great receivers.

970
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't tell you about those. They don't exist.

971
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean they're good. I think they got a really

972
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 5: good core. Yeah great, No, absolutely no.

973
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 4: They're good. And when it was time to pay Hollywood Brown,

974
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: what did they do?

975
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: Sent them to Arizona.

976
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: Bye.

977
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: So it's it's hard, it's emotional. The fans love these players.

978
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: They're very popular players. But I guess I'm wondering aloud

979
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: when the bubble is going to burst, because it seems

980
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 3: to me that right now, at a certain point, owners

981
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: are going to get the idea of I'm not getting

982
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: the ROI ye. I like, it's great that you're on

983
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: net flicks. Are we in the playoffs?

984
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: Some of them?

985
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 5: Some of them are, But no, Mark it's it's uh,

986
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 5: it's really tough, man. And I think it all it

987
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: all stems and boils from what are your standards as

988
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 5: a team, Like what are your goals? What kind of

989
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: team are you building? Are you are you building the

990
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 5: team that scores a lot of points and it's going

991
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: to be exciting, or are you building the team the

992
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 5: right way up front, quarterback line. If we get a

993
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: star receiver, we get one, great, but if not, we're

994
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 5: going to tailor our offense or our defense to the

995
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 5: players where we have there and maximize that. So again,

996
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: I think I think it comes down to what type

997
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: of team you're trying to build the are you trying

998
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 5: to Are you trying to build a team that's built

999
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: to win and the you know, win the whole thing,

1000
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: and that's a certain type of team. You can see that.

1001
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: You'll know that team the teams that can go out

1002
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: and score a lot of points for the most part,

1003
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 5: if you look at that throughout history, it's exciting. Those

1004
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: teams don't usually win. You can go back to the

1005
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 5: to the Dolphins with Marino and those guys and all

1006
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 5: those receivers right.

1007
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: Duper Clayton, they were exciting. They didn't win.

1008
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 5: You go back, you go to the you know, you

1009
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 5: go to the Chiefs with Tyreek and all those weapons.

1010
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: They won one.

1011
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 5: They you know, they had them again. They lose, They

1012
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 5: get rid of that, They rebuild that team, build a defense, fix.

1013
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 2: The old line, run the ball a little bit more.

1014
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: They win again. Like, there's a way to win.

1015
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 5: There's a formula to win, and I don't think it

1016
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: has to be the same, but some of those ingredients

1017
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: are the same, and that's been proven through the handles

1018
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 5: of history.

1019
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: The Chargers were paying too. Jim Harbaugh walked in and said,

1020
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: get rid.

1021
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: Of both of them.

1022
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need any I think we're going to

1023
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: them with both of.

1024
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: Them, you know, I like, I don't know, you know,

1025
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: there's more to say on this, because I think that

1026
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 3: also in this Netflix series, one of the stories of

1027
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,879
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1028
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,480
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1029
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,400
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio up on Game In for the guys, Mark

1054
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Speaker 3: Willard and Carrie Rhodes tire Rack dot Com Studios. Scott Hansen,

1055
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: who handles the red zone broadcasts, just tweeted out fifty

1056
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: days see you in fifty days. Cannot wait, cannot wait,

1057
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: And fifty days right now is one of those things

1058
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: where like it's only fifty days and I'm like, oh, hell,

1059
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: it's still fifty days.

1060
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 5: Fifty days, that's a lot of alarm clocks from now,

1061
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: you know it is.

1062
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: All right?

1063
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: Uh, Carrie, you'll you'll love when you do get around

1064
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: to receivers on Netflix. You're gonna love the DeVante Adams stuff.

1065
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: The Davante Adams stuff is layered. And it's a cautionary

1066
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: tale to NFL teams. It's a cautionary tale to players

1067
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: as well. And uh, and my god, it's a cautionary

1068
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: tale to quarterbacks. Don't let your receivers be miked up

1069
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 3: if you're not good. Jimmy Garoppolo has gotten dragged through

1070
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: this documentary. I mean absolutely like his his sort of

1071
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: his career arc may have changed. Wow because of this documentary.

1072
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: He's unhirable. He is if Matt Stafford were to get hurt.

1073
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: This year Garoppolo were to go in and the Rams

1074
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: were to win a bunch of games. Is Garoppolo on

1075
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: the table for being someone's starting quarterback the following year?

1076
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 4: I'd argue, right now, no.

1077
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: Wow, is it that bad.

1078
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 4: It's that bad. It's that bad.

1079
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: It took like four weeks, four games with Jimmy, and

1080
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: Davante was questioning his whole life.

1081
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: Give me, give me something. He's I don't know if

1082
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: you want to put it.

1083
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a streaming service. There's no spoiler alon

1084
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: on streaming. You've had plenty of time you could have.

1085
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 3: You could have binged this in one day. So so

1086
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: here's basically the idea. Davante, as we know, he leaves

1087
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: the Packers and he wants to join the Raiders, and

1088
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: he admitted that was largely because of his college relationship

1089
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: with Derek Carr, and they have one season together and

1090
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: even though that they weren't like highly successful. The documentary

1091
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: sort of presents that as and it was going pretty well,

1092
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: go pretty well. Davante is a good player, putting up numbers,

1093
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: and then the Raiders move on from Derek Carr and

1094
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: incomes Jimmy Garoppolo.

1095
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy G. Jimmy G.

1096
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: And yes he's hired as a bit of a bridge,

1097
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: but the Raiders are like a bridge to what we

1098
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

1099
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 4: We don't know, we don't have a plan yet.

1100
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: So here's DeVante Adams, and there are moments where it

1101
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: sounds like he's making the team a little bit too

1102
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: much about himself. Like there's one game where they won.

1103
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: They won the game. Remember when they beat the Patriots.

1104
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: They played really good defense, they got a safety, what

1105
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: have you. It was their first game of the year

1106
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: when they scored twenty points, but it was largely because

1107
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: of the defense. And he had a press conference where

1108
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: he sounded very mad and it's like, but you guys won.

1109
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we won, but I expect greatness and

1110
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: I am a big part of the reason why I

1111
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: expect us to be great, and I'm you know, it

1112
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: was kind of a little bit of a meaty but

1113
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: Davante's very you know, there's very respected around the league

1114
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: and as a hell of a player and a spokesman.

1115
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: All right, So there's all that, but what really drives

1116
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: this bus is the sideline commentary from Davante as he's

1117
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: getting absolutely crushed by hits over the middle and missed

1118
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: like overthrows, and then also the finer points that we

1119
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: don't see balls a little bit behind you, but you

1120
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: caught it. But it put your body in a position

1121
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: where a carry rhades of the world came flying across

1122
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: and just ripped your soul.

1123
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 4: Out of your body.

1124
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: And I mean, Carrie, it's like week five and Davante

1125
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: is on the sideline looking at his teammates.

1126
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: He's like, I got to get the bleep out of here.

1127
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: He said, he had to get out of here.

1128
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: I gotta get I have to get the bleep out

1129
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: of here. Wow, and basically says like I am. I'm

1130
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: scared for my life. He's like, I've never been hit

1131
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: like this in my life. I've never been hurt this

1132
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: much in my life. Yeah, I've got to get out

1133
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: of here before this ends my life.

1134
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 5: Mark everything you just stated, literally every detail, every frame

1135
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: by frame commentary you said as a dB that made

1136
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 5: me smile exactly.

1137
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking.

1138
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 5: He said, ball behind check, jack, tips and overthrows, I

1139
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: make money, check and a star receiver not being wanting

1140
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 5: to get out of there.

1141
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: Check, Like, all of those are great for us.

1142
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 5: So I think that I think the follow up of

1143
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: this Netflix Receiver series has to be dB.

1144
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: Now now now.

1145
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 5: I'm getting it, dB, right now, I'm getting the picture. Yes,

1146
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 5: mike them up.

1147
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: When Davante lives to the sideline, what's happening on the

1148
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: other sideline as guys are high five and smiling and

1149
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 3: playing barbecues together, because like that's party time for.

1150
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: A dB.

1151
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, dude, it's wild.

1152
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 3: Though, it's wild because like the funny stuff is when

1153
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: so there's the miked up stuff and then, like any documentary,

1154
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: you're miked up, and then you go to the sit

1155
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: down interview with the player about what we're listening to

1156
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: and watching Davante try to stay true to himself and

1157
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: what he feels and what he's saying, but also like

1158
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: not totally sell Jimmy out.

1159
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: You know, like there was an interview where he's like like.

1160
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got hit with Aaron, but you know, like, yeah,

1161
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I didn't take hits with Aaron. But

1162
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: it's just like, dude, you can't walk this back. You

1163
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: hate Jimmy Garoppolo. Like there's cutaways to his wife in

1164
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: the stands and she's just sitting there and you can

1165
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: see it all over her face.

1166
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 4: She wants to wring Jimmy's.

1167
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: Neck and you know they talked about it the night before.

1168
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 4: Of course.

1169
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean, the series does a great job of softening

1170
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: the two of them up. Like the first time we

1171
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: meet Davonte, he's having a big birthday party for his

1172
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: daughter with dinosaurs at his house.

1173
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: Nice, it's the one.

1174
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: It's so hilarious, but you gotta go see it because

1175
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: all the like they're new to Vegas.

1176
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: They throw a party. They invite all of the classmates over.

1177
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: And at least half of the moms of the other

1178
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: classmates have no idea who Davante Adams is. They're just like,

1179
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: there's dad. That must be the dad. But they walk

1180
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: into the house and you can see the whispers.

1181
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: They're like, what.

1182
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 10: Does this man do for a living? What did you

1183
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 10: see this house? This is the most elaborateating. The women

1184
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 10: are losing their minds. The designer in them is coming out.

1185
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 10: They want to know what's going on. And then they

1186
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 10: walk over to dead Hi, my name's Molly.

1187
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: He's like, Hi, I'm Davante, and just watching behind their

1188
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 3: eyes they're like what is going on? Like Molly, he

1189
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: makes twenty eight million year.

1190
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 4: The market is good. Business is moving anyway anyway, It's

1191
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 4: very entertaining. I found it very entertaining.

1192
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: But but the other cautionary tale though is and I

1193
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: would send this I would send this episode to Brandon Ayyuk.

1194
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 4: When you got an offense and a.

1195
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: Quarterback, be very careful about, yeah, trying to press the

1196
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: leverage button when you are a receiver, because this can

1197
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: go hillaciously wrong so fast.

1198
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: It can mark.

1199
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 5: The one thing about iuk situation though, is this would

1200
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 5: be his first big contract and so fair point. So

1201
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: my whole point on that is, and my whole stance

1202
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 5: on that usually is you got to get your money

1203
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 5: right early on. Obviously you're you're right, though, I mean

1204
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 5: there is caution to be to be relegated there, and

1205
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 5: it's true we've seen it over and over, like the

1206
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 5: grass isn't always greener, but your pocketbook could be greener.

1207
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 5: And so for him to not have it, I would say,

1208
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 5: go get it. But yeah, it's it's it's a slippery slope, man.

1209
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 5: You go to the wrong situation and you're demonte Adams

1210
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 5: in this situation and it's not fun.

1211
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like I mean, you've got trainers at your

1212
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: house every day. You're like, you're in I mean this man,

1213
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 3: you know this like just tremendous pain, Yes, every day, Yes,

1214
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: tremendous tremendous.

1215
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: Pain and fear and worry and all of these things.

1216
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: I mean, the reports are that the Niners offered twenty

1217
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 3: six million a year.

1218
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 4: Is that fair? Maybe not? But do you want twenty six.

1219
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Million a year and you're a Niner or do you

1220
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: want twenty eight and you're a Panther?

1221
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

1222
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: If it's that closed, yeah, I'm staying. Yeah, you know

1223
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. For sure.

1224
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: Sure it's not fair. I get that it's not fair,

1225
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: but I mean, if.

1226
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: It's that close, I'm staying with a chance to win

1227
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 5: for sure at that point.

1228
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 3: Yes, And the biggest thing people forget about the Ayuk situation.

1229
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: He's not a free agent.

1230
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: That's right.

1231
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: He can't go anywhere.

1232
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can force him to play for fourteen million,

1233
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: and if he doesn't sign that deal, that's seventeen more

1234
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: games of do your life's on the line and you

1235
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 3: could tear a who knows what.

1236
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 4: On any play for sure at anyway.

1237
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: We can get more into that coming up here in

1238
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: just a second it's Mark Wetherd and Kerry Rhodes in

1239
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: for the guys. And here's the third member of our

1240
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: team today, Nick Cope latest out at about.

1241
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 8: All right guys at Royal Troon, third round of the

1242
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 8: Open Championship.

1243
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 9: Had lots of.

1244
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 8: Scoring earlier in the round today, but as the rain

1245
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 8: continues to fall, golfers are having a tough time scoring

1246
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 8: onto the back nine as such getting a lot of bogies.

1247
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 8: And we've got a three way tie at the top

1248
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 8: of the leader board. Billy Horschell, Shane Lowry Daniel Brown

1249
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 8: all at minus five. At one point Shane Lowry was

1250
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 8: already up to eight under par, had a three shot lead,

1251
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 8: but that has evaporated quickly, so three players tied at

1252
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 8: the top. Xander Schanfleet, Justin Rose one shot back. Scotty

1253
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 8: Scheffler is lurking. He is two shots back, part of

1254
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 8: a four way tie for six. In the NFL, the

1255
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 8: Jaguars announced they plays defensive tackle Eric Armstead on the

1256
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 8: pup list. Baseball, the Yankees John Carlos Stan could be

1257
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 8: ready to play.

1258
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 9: In games as soon as next week.

1259
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 8: He's been on the injured list for the last month

1260
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 8: with a hamstring injury. Yankees currently in action against the

1261
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,479
Speaker 8: Rays at Yankee Stadium. No score in the second inning.

1262
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 8: One other game going on and that's the Cardinals and

1263
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 8: the Braves. They're just underway from Atlanta. USA basketball has

1264
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 8: its penultimate Olympic tune up in London today. They're taking

1265
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 8: on South Sudan that's at three Eastern. Non Fox US

1266
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 8: and salth Sudan will also be in the same group

1267
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 8: for the Olympics as well.

1268
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 9: Kevin Uran is questionable to play today.

1269
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 8: He's recovering from that calf injury and only just practice

1270
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 8: with the team for the first time yesterday.

1271
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 9: Mark, Kerrie back to.

1272
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: You, Okay, thank you very much. Nick, appreciate that. Up

1273
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,520
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Speaker 3: Episode three of Receivers actually sort of tweaked my opinion

1290
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: on the Brandon Ayuk situation because I forgot that when

1291
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel missed three games last year early in the season,

1292
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: the Niners lost them all. They lost them all, and

1293
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: Brock Purdy came out and said, there's a lot of

1294
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: things going on in this offense that rely on Debo

1295
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 3: that the outside world doesn't see. So while Brandon can

1296
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 3: do thirteen hundred yards and Debo's only going to do

1297
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 3: nine hundred, you could argue that Deebo's the more important player,

1298
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 3: he's the older player, he's the more he's the bigger

1299
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: injury risk.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes, right.

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Speaker 4: So I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Huge proponent of the forty nine ers keeping Brandon Ayyuk

1303
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 3: long term, but the more I think about this, it's

1304
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: very complex, and I wonder if the forty nine ers

1305
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: are playing this, especially with the drafting of two receivers,

1306
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,520
Speaker 3: one of them in the first round in Ricky Piersoll,

1307
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: if the forty nine ers are looking at Brandon and going,

1308
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: we really want you, but we're not We're not gonna

1309
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: want you that bad. We're like, we do have a

1310
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 3: Plan B if you decide that this number is not right,

1311
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: because we do have a quarterback to pay next off season.

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,919
Speaker 4: Them's the breaks.

1313
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 3: And so I really go back and forth on this one,

1314
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: and I wonder what you think because I would normally

1315
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL with non guaranteed deals and all that, like,

1316
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: I would be very pro player. But in certain situations,

1317
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: and this is one of them, I can see where

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 3: the Niners might be coming from, where they're like, look,

1319
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: are you worth twenty eight or twenty nine? Yeah, yeah,

1320
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 3: we have twenty six and a half. That's what we have. Yeah,

1321
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 3: and and ugh, like, listen, this.

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 4: Is one of those. Is this a rare exception? You

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01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 4: tell me now?

1324
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 5: Number one, the NFL is always drafting Plan B, whether

1326
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 5: you think so or not. I mean, that guy can

1327
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 5: be in the fourth round, fifth round, second round, whatever,

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 5: you think, like, they're always trying to draft a plan

1329
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 5: b right. I remember talking to a personal story. I

1330
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 5: remember we drafted a safety I think maybe like fifth

1331
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 5: round or something. He was always a good special teams

1332
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 5: guy and you know, a guy that I really liked.

1333
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, he's getting better, He's getting

1334
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 5: better every year.

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: And I was.

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 5: I had a conversation with him once and I was like, so,

1337
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 5: what's your just as a friend, like what's your what's

1338
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 5: your goal?

1339
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: Like what are you what are you doing for this year?

1340
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 5: I said, You're going to be the best special team

1341
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 5: players in special team, best special team player on our

1342
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: team and blah blah blah blah.

1343
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: And uh.

1344
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: He was like, no, no, no, I'm trying to start.

1345
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, you are, You are got it.

1346
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 5: It was like one of those early early reminders from

1347
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 5: myself that no, no, this guy. All these guys have

1348
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 5: aspirations to be the guy, and so they're always drafting

1349
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 5: that guy.

1350
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 2: If you break down the dollar value of.

1351
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 5: What your what you think your you know what your

1352
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 5: market is, and the market is the market and what

1353
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 5: you think you're worth. You want to get that you

1354
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 5: just that's who it is. Even when I was playing.

1355
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 5: I go back to myself for one more second. Here,

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 5: it's I'm planning in the division and the division with

1357
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 5: say these like ed Ree, Troy Palamalu, Bob sand News

1358
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 5: and myself, and it was always US four at the

1359
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 5: top of the AFC. Those guys made all the all

1360
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowls and all that. I was always an

1361
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 5: alternate whatever. But my market value was the same as theirs.

1362
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 5: I had the highest paid guaranteed contract out of all

1363
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 5: of us at that time. And so you have that

1364
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 5: situation where the market is the market.

1365
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: I was young. I had to get mine. I got it.

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 5: If they would have only offered me it close to

1367
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: that or a million off, I would have felt a

1368
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 5: certain way. But I wanted to stay in New York,

1369
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 5: and I probably would have taken that. In Brandon's situation here,

1370
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 5: the money's not that far off. If he was listening

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 5: to me, I would say, man, listen, take that deal.

1372
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 5: You're on the team has a chance to win. Your

1373
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 5: legacy does matter, and take it. So it's it's always

1374
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 5: based off the player's preference who's in their ear. But

1375
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 5: I think it's about that too. Who's also around him

1376
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 5: and in his ear right now.

1377
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: Well, i'd argue, and those are some great points, but

1378
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: it's not just even about being on a winner.

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01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 4: I would argue that Brandon.

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01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: Right now, and again, this sucks if he's if a

1381
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: million or two million per year is being left off

1382
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 3: the table that like, even at this number.

1383
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 4: I get it.

1384
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: There's ego involved in here for all of us, and

1385
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 3: that stinks, But what's the what is the cost benefit

1386
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 3: analysis here?

1387
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 4: What is the risk reward?

1388
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: Because the forty nine ers can simply look at you

1389
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: and say see you week one, Yeah, for sure, you're

1390
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: under contract. And if Brandon, if Brandon, if they do that,

1391
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: here's what Brandon's options are. You can play for fourteen

1392
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: point one million this year, which is more money than

1393
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 3: he's made in his first four years combined. Okay, so

1394
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: you can play on that, Yet every time you go

1395
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 3: out there, your risk made, your injury that will affect

1396
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 3: that long term contract. Or you can say I will

1397
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: not show up for my fifth year option at fourteen million,

1398
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 3: therefore leaving millions on the table that you would be

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:49,440
Speaker 3: making this year, yes, and taking the conversation that surrounds

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01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 3: you to a controversial place. Oh, by the way, you

1401
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 3: gain no leverage because the forty nine ers can simply

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: tag you the following you sure you show up at all.

1403
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 3: If you don't show up, you don't even get the

1404
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: year of service. So Brandon is stuck in a spot

1405
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: where it's like, dude, I feel for you.

1406
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 4: I know it.

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 3: It stinks to have that hard line put in front

1408
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: of you, But it feels like hundreds of millions of

1409
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: dollars are being put on the table so that he

1410
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 3: can make one.

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that's wild to me.

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 5: Yes, it's he's he has no leverage here, and I

1413
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 5: think we know how good of a player he is,

1414
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 5: and they do as well. It's just they could be

1415
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 5: hard strapped for whatever, you know, whatever the extra couple

1416
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 5: of million he's trying to make. And it's it's it's

1417
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 5: a tough situation because, like you said earlier, I'm for

1418
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 5: the player getting getting what they deserve as well, and

1419
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 5: it just doesn't seem like it's going to head that way.

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 5: So he's gonna have to make a really big decision here,

1421
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 5: and less than fifty days, mark.

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 2: Just saying it's fifteen days.

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: Very very soon, all right, speaking very very soon, coming

1424
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 3: up next. I promised that I want I wanted to

1425
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 3: run through some young quarterbacks with you, and what we'll

1426
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: do that next? In for the guys with Kerry Rhodes,

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Speaker 3: I'm Mark Weard Fox Sports Radio. Okay, back in these

1428
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Speaker 3: tyrack dot com studios, No Levarn, no TJ, no plaques

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01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: today instead Mark Weather, Kerry Roads. Glad you are with us. Okay,

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01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: just a handful of minutes left, Carrie. Let me let

1431
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: me throw some qbs at you and you project what

1432
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: we might see this year.

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,520
Speaker 4: That's problem those players talk to me about Anthony Richardson.

1434
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 5: With the colt Anthony Richardson so much a flash of

1435
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 5: potential during his rookie season where I saw some exciting

1436
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 5: things that could happen or be on the precipice for him.

1437
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 5: This is going to be a big year for him, though,

1438
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 5: because now I think we got that little glimpse and

1439
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 5: we want to see more, which we always do. I'm

1440
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 5: predicting that he's gonna have a solid year, not a

1441
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 5: not a breakout year like CJ. Strial, but I think

1442
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 5: he's gonna have a really solid year.

1443
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: Can he can he get through a year playing the

1444
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 3: way that he played when we saw him, yes, or

1445
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 3: does he need to.

1446
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 2: Change He's going to have to change eventually.

1447
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 5: Yes, But I think he can get through a season

1448
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 5: playing the way that he played last year. So if

1449
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 5: you say, can he get through one, yes? Can he

1450
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 5: continue to do that?

1451
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: No?

1452
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean I could throw the entire division at you.

1453
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: What do you think of Will Levis? That's an interesting one.

1454
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people are excited to see

1455
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: what he can do in year two. I don't think

1456
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 3: he's going to be somebody that breaks through and has

1457
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: a really great career. I think he has potential to

1458
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: be a service quarterback.

1459
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: He could be in the.

1460
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 5: League for a while, But I don't see him breaking

1461
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 5: through to like a superstar or really really good a

1462
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 5: really a great quarterback at any point in his career.

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: Have you already, like the rest of the world seems

1464
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: to have given up on Bryce Young?

1465
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 4: I have not. I have no.

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 5: Okay, he's he was too good of a quarterback and

1467
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 5: like and even just as a leader. He was so

1468
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 5: good at Alabama. I think I mean, in that situation

1469
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 5: what he was in last year, he couldn't Nobody would

1470
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 5: have done a good job.

1471
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't care if it was CJ. Stroud. I think

1472
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: if C. J.

1473
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 5: Stroud was in that Carolina offense, we wouldn't be talking

1474
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 5: about him the same either. So I'm going to give

1475
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 5: Bryce a chance here and see what he has for

1476
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 5: year two.

1477
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 3: What is your best guess on the way the Cousins

1478
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: Pennix situation plays out in Atlanta?

1479
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: Woo, Cousin is going to be the guy this year.

1480
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 2: For sure.

1481
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 5: He paid, He's been paid way too much money to

1482
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 5: not be that guy. So he's going to be given

1483
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 5: every opportunity to lead that team to the Promised Land.

1484
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 5: But I mean, Pennix is going to be nipping at

1485
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 5: his nipping at his heels, and obviously, when you take

1486
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 5: a quarterback that high, the fans are gonna want to see.

1487
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: What he can do. So this year's this year's Cousins here.

1488
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,879
Speaker 3: Though, I'm only going to ask you about one rookie

1489
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: because I feel like that's kind of unfair. That's we

1490
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: haven't even seen that guy play, and I'll hold that

1491
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,520
Speaker 3: to the side. These are all to me just interesting situations.

1492
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 3: What what happens this year in New York with Daniel Jones?

1493
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: He better play well?

1494
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah.

1495
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 5: I was on the record last year saying he wasn't

1496
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 5: that good anyway. I didn't think, you know, I'm not

1497
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 5: going to say deserve money or whatever. That's that is

1498
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 5: what it is. The market was the market. So but

1499
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 5: I remember I put out a statement saying he wasn't

1500
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 5: he wasn't as talented as Zach Wilson. Zak Wilson doesn't play,

1501
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 5: hadn't played well in games, obviously, but I didn't think

1502
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 5: he was uh even a notch above Zach Wilson. So

1503
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 5: for me, for me, I want to see if he

1504
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 5: can actually play well in the season and stay healthy

1505
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 5: and and and live up to what we thought he

1506
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 5: could be.

1507
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 3: Can I you don't think Daniel Jones is as good

1508
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: as Zach Wilson.

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think skill just some skill set standpoint,

1510
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 5: I don't think he is. Daniel Jones play played well

1511
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 5: in that one year where he got the contract and

1512
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 5: they made the playoffs, and he made some timely throws,

1513
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 5: but he was a dual threat guy. That's not I

1514
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 5: don't think is as frightening as a dual threat guy

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Speaker 5: goes right. I don't think he's at the top tier

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Speaker 5: of that realm. He's not a great, great, accurate passer.

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 5: So he's not like a guy that can just sit

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 5: there and make all the throws that I from what

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01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 5: I've seen so far, now he could prove me wrong

1520
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 5: just from what I've seen so far. Yeah, I wouldn't

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 5: put him. Well, his attributes above like a Zach Wilson guy.

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm no huge fan, but the one thing

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01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 3: I see with Zach Wilson is, you know, the attributes

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: that we talk about, the arm strength, the mobility, whatever.

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 4: His pocket awareness is the worst thing I've ever seen.

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: It's bad at the NFL level, sure, and Daniel Daniel

1527
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: has him beat there, like Zach has no clue when

1528
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: someone's coming.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean that the year before prior to this

1530
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 5: year for the Giants, the Giants had a better line

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 5: so he could have time to make those decisions. Zach

1532
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 5: had no time to even make those decisions. So you

1533
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 5: talk about pocket awareness, it, I would agree with you

1534
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 5: for last year, but no quarterback would have pocket awareness

1535
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 5: when it comes to the jets o line. So I

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Speaker 5: just I want to see what Zach does in Denver. Also,

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's gonna have a better year

1538
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 5: in Denver.

1539
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: The world thinks that Jordan Love is about to become

1540
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 3: an absolute star, is he?

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: I do too, Yes, I do.

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01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 5: I mean the way he played down the stretch with

1543
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 5: Green Bay last year and even in the playoffs when

1544
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 5: it mattered the dude's stud And so I do I

1545
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 5: agree with that, that take for sure.

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01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: What do you think that the Caleb Williams experience is

1547
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 3: going to look like in Chicago?

1548
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 5: Well that better look good too. I mean, they've they've

1549
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: stacked the deck around him. He's got players, he's got playmakers.

1550
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 5: I think he has a chance to be really good

1551
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 5: in this in this first year. And I'm gonna say

1552
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 5: he'll probably win Ricky of the Year. Oh yes, I'm

1553
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 5: saying it. I'm caroing out on the limb. Mark it down, Mark.

1554
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny in Chicago. This is a not

1555
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: a today problem. It's a tomorrow problem. Maybe it'll never

1556
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 3: even be a problem. But you know, we were talking

1557
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 3: about paying two receivers. Yeah, and Keenan Allen is now

1558
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 3: there along with DJ Moore, and you drafted Rome of Duns.

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01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 3: I mean, are there is is there enough to go

1560
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 3: around to where Rome is going to develop around two

1561
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 3: established guys?

1562
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah, I mean Keenan is on.

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 5: He's still a very good receiver, very serviceable. He'll be

1564
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 5: big for Caleb, but he's not gonna I don't think

1565
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 5: he's gonna put up the numbers that we've seen before.

1566
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 5: I think it'll be I think Rome will have this

1567
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 5: chance for sure.

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01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 4: One more real quick is Justin Herbert gonna finally pop.

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01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear you, Mark said again.

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01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 3: I said, it's Justin Herbert gonna finally pop now that

1571
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: now that Harbaugh's there.

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01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 5: Nope, he's not gonna He's not gonna pop. They're gonna

1573
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 5: be better. I think they'll have a better foundation to win.

1574
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 5: But I don't think he's gonna pop, not with that,

1575
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 5: not with that core that he has around him right now.

1576
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 5: But he'll be good. He'll be good.

1577
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 4: Great talking to you today, Buddy.

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun, Mark, so much fun. Man,

1579
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: appreciate you.

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01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 4: Bet it all right?

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01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 3: Four Kerry Rhoades, I'm Mark Willard. Enjoy your day on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.