1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: dot com, the radio plows, mobile labs, and on your radio. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Plan for on Bloomberg World Hendquarters. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pelotondal the SMPNZ SAC. They're all pushing higher 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: off their session highs, but showing green nonetheless, with the 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: SMP up four to forty two, up two tenths of 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: one percent, US stocks halting a three day slide, Volatility 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: is easing. We've got the Dow up twenty three now 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: up one tenth of one percent, as Tank up thirty nine, 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: up six tenths of one percent, the tenure of three 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: thirty second zeal two point one nine percent, Gold up 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: four ninety ounce of four tenths of one percent, and 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: crude oil hired by five tenths of one percent to 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: forty eight dollars eighty four cents. I'm Charlie Peloton. That's 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg Business Flash, Thank you very much, Charlie Pellett. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: And it's to forty eight on Wall Street and eleven 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: forty eight in the Bay Area. The following is from 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg View Opinions in commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm as Puru, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: a columnist for Bloomberg View. A new study says that 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: cutting legal immigration in half, as President Trump and two 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Republican senators want to do, would shrink the economy and 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: reduce the number of jobs. But there is a lot 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: less to this study than meets the eye. The Penhorton 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: budget model says that the bill would cause the economy 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: to be two smaller than otherwise would be. The country 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: would have four point six million fewer jobs. But even 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: if the numbers are right, we still have to ask 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: so what. Of course, the smaller population will mean less 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: economic output and fewer jobs. But if we admit around 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: nine million fewer immigrants between now and and the number 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: of jobs falls only four point six million, it means 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: that reduced immigration doesn't much hurt the employment prospects of 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: those future Americans. The model gives us more useful information 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: when it says that per capita GDP will be point 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: three percent lower in twenty with less immigration. That may 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: be right, but it's not exactly a hair raising number. 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm as Pneu. For more view, please go to Bloomberg 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: View dot com or view go on the Blue terminal. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: These has been Bloomberg View. Bloomerview commentaries can be heard 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: every weekday this time, but also at eleven time. No, 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: it is a competent's helping generate sales leads using some 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: really uh clever applications of artificial intelligence. The CEO and 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: found with the company fell and Fatomy joins us right 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: now from San Francisco. Foul, I'm sorry not there to 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: see you, but um, congratulations and closing this series a 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: while around and emerging from stealth, he got some big investors, 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban any A keen in partners. Um, what are 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: they investing? What is what is your problem? Is your 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: company solving? Yes? I mean with the with the information 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: on the way I've being crave in just the last 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: two years. The engaged model with information it needs to 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: change from that of search when we know what we're 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: looking for, to that of proactive and personalized discovery. Um. 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: So we really see ourselves sort of picking up where 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Google leaves off and building machines to make sense of 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: all the people and companies and products and places on 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: the web, then understand what you care about to then 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: facilitate discovery of those right opportunities at the right time 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: and whatever application you're in. So we're essentially building like 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: that sounds like everything all the time, right when you 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: want it. If we if we focus it just to 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the world of sales, what does it mean for sales, 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: because because the salesperson knows kind of I think they 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: know what kind of customers they're trying to find, right, 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, you think that, but you know that's part 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: of the reason why we have a funnel today. Were 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: of prospects are the wrong people at the wrong companies 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: at the wrong time, and they're approaching them with the 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: wrong message. So really, what it means, what our solution 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: means fulfilled marketers, uh, is they're going to ultimately get 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: more revenue faster by focusing on those right next set 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: of prospects and markets of opportunities that are going to 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: essentially drive you know, just in a few short months 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: over a hundred million revenue for our customers UM and 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: our o I and the set eight. Uh. Well, we'll 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: break that down. So, so give me a use case studies, 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: something that someone has actually worked. Sure, so one of 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: our customers, Blue Jean's network, they're in industry leading video 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: conferencing solution UM. You know, they could essentially sell to 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: any B two B business. What we helped them actually 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: understand was the world of people and companies essentially their 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: total addressable market. Where are their potential customers located clobally 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: and what's that market opportunity and then how should they 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: actually prioritize their execution on that market in a way 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: that will drive more revenue per unit of time UM. 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: So we for example, then recommended to them that they, 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: for instance, should sell to Blue Apron UM and we 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: explained why in terms of why Blue Apron has a 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: higher deal sized potential and what these signals are. Not 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: only that, not it will actually can even recommend the 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: actual buyers at that company that you should sell of 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: our Canadia. So for instance, we might recommend you sell 93 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: to the CMO there. So you found so is it 94 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: like a ven diagram where you found a lot of 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: similarities between Blue Apron and UH consumers and Blue Apron 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and UH Blue Jeens network potential users. The commonalities besides 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: the word blue um. Yes, commonalities besides the word blue. 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Looking for signals or attributes UM with Blue Apron as 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: a company UM that would actually make them exhibit a 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: higher deal sized potential or higher propensity to purchase Blue 101 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: jeans UM at both the company and the people level. UM. So, 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: for example, if we identify that our potential buyer at 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: blue Apron was actually a former customer of Blue Jeens 104 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: network and just move to a new company, node would 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: identify that and surface that in real time. That's really interesting. 106 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: But you find some well back up, where do you 107 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: scrape the information from? We're literally using the webs or 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: database and leveraging AI technologies like natural iuage processing or 109 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: machine learning to actually UM index all the entities that 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: exist on the web, in these unstructured web pages. So 111 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, think if you read an article from Bloomberg, UM, 112 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: this actually a lot of information about people and companies 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: and relationships between them, and we make SUP to that. UM. 114 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I'll let you find all kinds of weird connections. Are 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: weird things you wouldn't think that overlap, but actually do. UM. Yeah. 116 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: One interesting example of something we've learned from our algorithms 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: is that the product category that would be purchased before 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: your your product category would be sold. So for example, 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: for us, you know we're selling a sales and marketing 120 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: a data intelligence platform. UM what would you buy before 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: that as a company, Well, you probably invest in an 122 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: AHS solution first. Uh so that's actually the strongest signal 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: for UM for a prioritizing prospect. Well, this is I mean, 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: this is the magic math of Google, right, which is 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: why Google is a better advertising platform than Facebook, because 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: the user shows intent. If a user goes on Google 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: and searches for uh, propeller for Johnson one fifty motor 128 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: boat engine, they probably want a propeller for a Johnson 129 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: one fifty motor boat engine, and that's a a good lead, 130 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: whereas finding someone on Facebook who likes water skiing is 131 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: a more difficult lead. Yeah, that's correct, UM. And and 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're essentially identifying you know, not just it's 133 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 1: not so much the intent that you have through search, 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: because at that point you already know what you're looking for. 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: We're actually making sense of the intent and and information 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: about you. You know, who you are, what you care about, 137 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: who you're connected to, UM, you know, based on the 138 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: public web, and then marrying that information with with the 139 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: context that's relevant to you or your business. UM too 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: then suggest you know people are companies you should know 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: that you don't even know toe search for So why 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't this be better for branded advertising where you're just 143 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of creating awareness the sense of the target actually 144 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily thinking about buying at that moment instead of 145 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: sales leads for sales people. Um so actually that's how 146 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: noted also leverage. It's not just for sales, it's for 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: marketing as well. So you know, today, from an advertising 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: or brain awareness perspective, you might target people based on 149 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: demographics or you know, keywords. We actually we are sort 150 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of shifting that paradigm to actually giving you exactly who 151 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: the people and companies are that you should advertise against, 152 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: almost in a one to one fashion, and then you 153 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: can actually upload that to the Facebook Custom Audiences platform 154 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: or LinkedIn or Google that now actually allow you to 155 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: target specific people. It's really interesting. I mean, you know, 156 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: LinkedIn has a third of their businesses is really the 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: generating sales leads or helping people find sales leads. Um 158 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: do you imagine you do you look at lessons from 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: LinkedIn in terms of what you're trying to do? I mean, 160 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: I think LinkedIn is an incredible platform communication platform. Frankly 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: we used it internally as well. Um, I think there's 162 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: there's definitely a lot of lessons to be learned. We 163 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: have a number of advisors that formerly used to work 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: at LinkedIn UM. But you know, we're fundamentally building a 165 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: different graphs than than what LinkedIn has because here LinkedIn 166 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: data is really it's based on information we provide it. 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: So they're sort of a walled garden in that sense, UM, 168 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: but we see it as very sort of complementary. It's 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: such an interesting UH company. Fil has been fun watching 170 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: you put it together, very impressive as well of and 171 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Fadom is the CEO of Node. Uh. You know some 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: of the numbers Nodes come up with just just emerging 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: just a few months of being out of Stealth, hundred 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: million in revenue driven three thirty million and increased pipeline 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: for salespeople, the four point seven times higher deal sizes, 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: returning investment just eight weeks for their customers. They boasted, 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept with artificial intelligence for finding sales. 178 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: Lea's thank you so much. Listen to Bloomberg Markets on 179 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. This is Bloomberg