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Speaker 2: Back to it here the hun Day Texans Radio studio,

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Speaker 2: and as promised, a Texans season premiere special is happening

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, the twenty fifth season preview and Johnny and

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Speaker 2: I preview offense and Defense. And these are primers going

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Speaker 2: into camp that you need to hear. We shot it

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Speaker 2: for TV, we play it for radio. Here's the offense

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Speaker 2: as the Texans embark on training camp. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the offense here, Johnny, what we're looking for first and foremost,

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Speaker 2: especially in camp. This affects the whole season. But we

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Speaker 2: have to see this offensive line work together. The additions

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Speaker 2: they made, they're not going to be in pads right away,

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Speaker 2: but soon enough they will be. And when you talk

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Speaker 2: about drafting Keelan Rutledge, adding Wyatt Teller at ingram back

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about, Braden Smith joining the team, you

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Speaker 2: want to see as many of those guys as possible

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Speaker 2: get cohesive before the season gets started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you put the pads on, and that's

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Speaker 3: obviously when the real football begins. So I think for

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Speaker 3: the first few days, yeah, mis will still be in

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Speaker 3: the offensive line, just you can start to see some

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Speaker 3: once you're working some duo blocks, once you're working some

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Speaker 3: to linebackers start seeing communication. But you also see what

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Speaker 3: with the pads on, you see how physical this group

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Speaker 3: I think one of the probably least discussed aspects of

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Speaker 3: Trent Brown coming back, therese a big resigning for the Texans.

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Speaker 3: But eyes are going to be on the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: as they should be. What is that line going to

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Speaker 1: Run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Everything comes back to me to the offensive line. Even

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Speaker 3: when people bring up CJ. Stroud and discussing this situation

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Speaker 3: healthy can it be? How physical are they going to be?

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Speaker 3: Even with all the different new pieces up front and.

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Speaker 2: All talk about it's hard to get stuff done against

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Speaker 2: the running game dynamic here, so they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: mix it up in practice and keep that defense honest,

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Speaker 2: right because David Montgomery is here and he's the guy.

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Speaker 2: Along with what he marks, let's see how that running

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Speaker 2: game goes. The line is a huge part of it,

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Speaker 2: but Montgomery is here and he's here to make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And you think last year, we went into the year,

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Speaker 1: We're like, Okay, how's this gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And it got to the point where Nick Chubb, who

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Speaker 3: this offensive line gets an opportunity to face this defensive

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Speaker 3: I think this is the type offensive line with some

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Speaker 2: Now people are wondering, when are they going to talk

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Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz All time best tight end receiving season in

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Speaker 2: a difference maker in terms of attitude, locker room, and

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Speaker 2: Brevin Jordan coming back, trying it again. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 2: They drafted Marlin Klein in the second round. There's so

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Speaker 2: three be special for him? This is a good group

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Speaker 2: here on paper. I want to see them in camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're all built differently.

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Speaker 3: draft analysts that were like, wait, what are the Textans doing?

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Speaker 3: When we did get a chance to see Marlin in

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Speaker 3: Brevin Jordan coming back off the injury. Boy, would be

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Speaker 3: really good to see Brev kind of find his spot

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Speaker 3: But to me, Dalton Schultz, I mean that guy was

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Speaker 3: Stroud found Dalton Schultz. I think he's gonna be as

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Speaker 3: big a factor in that way as he was last year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last year at receiver, they added Christian Kirk. You

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Speaker 2: We talked about them a lot leading into last year.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking it this way because are they better this

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Speaker 2: and now you maybe have Tank Dell coming back. How

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Speaker 2: much better are they if at all? At the receiver

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Speaker 3: Well one of the guys that you didn't mention, and

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Speaker 3: I know he's the perfect three or four in his team,

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Speaker 3: What you get from Tank nobody knows, but I do

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Speaker 3: think if Tank is healthy, he will get He will

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Speaker 3: get targets. There's no questions. CJ likes to throw the

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Speaker 3: is fully healthy. Nico's one of the best receivers in

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Speaker 1: I think that one.

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Speaker 3: I'd like see both, but I think at least one

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Speaker 1: Really big season.

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Speaker 3: And I think we saw that last half of the

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Speaker 1: Big spots too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did have a pretty decent game against the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: The offense, Higgins really showed himself.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen Ole can do some really good things

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Speaker 2: Lot to look forward to. And we never take Nico

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Speaker 2: Now CJ here, he is year four, a lot to

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Speaker 2: the pressure is on, and I think he's ready for

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Speaker 2: this challenge. Now he's heard about it all offseason long.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I think you mentioned infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the best infrastructure that he has

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Speaker 3: is that takes some heat off and Nico Collins.

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Speaker 1: That opens him up a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: If Tank Dell is back, all these ifs, I know

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Speaker 3: we'd like for all of them to be yes, and

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Speaker 3: they're probably not all going to be, but I think

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Speaker 3: there are enough of them that leaning towards this offense

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Speaker 3: being a better infrastructure for CJ. And he just has

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Speaker 2: If he can do that, this offense is definitely going

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Speaker 2: to go places. And look, last year CJ got hurt.

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Speaker 2: You have the three games with Mills. I think death wise,

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Speaker 2: this is as a quarterback room as they've ever had

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Davis knowing that it's something did happen to CJ,

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Speaker 3: So I think they feel pretty confident about what they

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Speaker 2: And Merz was coming off the injury. He'll be healthy

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Speaker 2: this camp. That's good, good stuff about the offense. All right,

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Speaker 2: our Texans season premiere twenty fifth season previews special airing

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Speaker 2: Sunday night at eleven. Here's Johnny and I previewing the

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Speaker 2: defense getting into camp, talking Texans defense, the expectations sky high.

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Speaker 2: Number one in the league last year in yards, number

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Speaker 2: think they're going to shoot for number one in both

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Speaker 2: categories again, Johnny, not that that's the ultimate goal, but

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Speaker 2: that's a nice thing to have in addition to the

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Speaker 2: ultimate goal. But let's start here, the straw that stirs

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Speaker 3: But how physical Disease and Henry play the game, and

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Speaker 3: You're gonna miss EJ. Speed, Let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 3: He's physical, gck to me, Jalen Petrie, the Guardian cap king.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the rich get richer, yes, right, but the

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Speaker 2: the show. Well, the show Quarterback is interesting. It's a

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, look everybody could have played better. He could

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Speaker 2: have overcome whatever he did right, but he had a

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Speaker 2: hand in it. And look they all had a hand

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Speaker 2: in it. So here I am kind of backtracking a little,

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Speaker 2: but I want to point something out. They have a

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield showcase here because he's one of the four

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Speaker 2: guys they're going over Week two, Tampa Bay at Houston

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, and we all know how that ended.

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Speaker 2: Fourth and ten, Baker escapes, eventually they score. It's a heartbreaker,

446
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Speaker 2: heartbreak city. You go to zero to two. But CJ.

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Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson was talking you know what to Baker Mayfield

448
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Speaker 2: and he really poked the bear and Mayfield talks about it,

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Speaker 2: how it gave him the adrenaline rush he needed to

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Speaker 2: pull that game out because remember he was hit. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if CJ hit him, but he was hitting.

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Speaker 2: He is banged up, and CJ stands over him and

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Speaker 2: says some stuff and Baker his pain and he talks

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Speaker 2: about my pain went away instantly. It looked like he

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Speaker 2: was gonna it looked like he was gonna leave the game. Johnny,

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Speaker 2: we almost had Baker out of the game. And it's

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Speaker 2: a w for the Texans week two and you're right

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Speaker 2: on track here. Look, they won twelve games. I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be so bitter, but I am because I don't like

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Speaker 2: his memory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was watching that and it got me seriously, pod

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Speaker 3: And the thing was is I saw it from the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: like I saw the little dust up from the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: and I was furious. I'm like, get out of there.

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Speaker 3: The last thing you've got to see. To me, this

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Speaker 3: is what makes uh, this is what makes the the CJ.

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Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson in three weeks whatever, you know him talking

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Speaker 3: this summer about what happened, what happened, didn't happen, or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It just goes to show that, man, you can play

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Speaker 3: with edge, but you gotta understand who you're playing, yep.

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Speaker 3: Because there are some guys you can talk to and

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Speaker 3: get in their heads. And like he did against the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs in the Super Bowl, he got at Travis Kelsey's head.

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Speaker 3: You could do that. You can't do that with Baker. No,

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Speaker 3: just pisses Baker off, motivates him, and it motivates him

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Speaker 3: and it gives him to play better. And my god,

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Speaker 3: did he play so much better after that?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And look it's still we make one tackle, we win

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Speaker 3: that game. But I just was like, yeah, well, seriously,

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Speaker 3: I was so mad.

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Speaker 2: The other game that's not in this show because it

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Speaker 2: didn't involve any of the four quarterbacks I mentioned was

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Speaker 2: the next week at Jacksonville when he blows the assignment,

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Speaker 2: and that's well documented. He blew an assignment and that

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Speaker 2: led to a huge play Jaguar touchdown. And you know

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Speaker 2: it was a touchdown game. But look, everybody, I had

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Speaker 2: a hand in that one. You had the turnover as

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Speaker 2: you could have, would have should have. But man, that

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Speaker 2: guy as talented as he is, there are some costly moments,

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Speaker 2: just put it that way, costly moments, so I singled

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Speaker 2: him out. I know it's a team game, but just happened, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that the show quarterback. I'm really enjoying this

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Speaker 2: one that I'm learning. And you mentioned this from the

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Speaker 2: get go. He said, Ooh, cam Ward, I don't like

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Speaker 2: this because he's kind of likable in the show and

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Speaker 2: you see that, Okay, he could grow up mature, he

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Speaker 2: could be the kind of all right rookie year wasn't great,

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Speaker 2: but you saw some flashes and he continues to improve

501
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Speaker 2: and as a text, and you have to hope he

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Speaker 2: doesn't not to get personal. He's a Texan, he's from

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Speaker 2: the lone star state. But I don't want to see

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Speaker 2: it happen in Tennessee. And it's really hard to take

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Speaker 2: because you think about the potential here. But I thought

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Speaker 2: it was like an SNL skip when he's playing dodgeball

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Speaker 2: with the little kids and you know he's I'm like, you.

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Speaker 1: Got an NFL quarterback playing dodgeball with little.

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Speaker 2: Kids, and what he's really doing damage with is catching

510
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Speaker 2: all the balls kids throw at him. Because you know

511
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Speaker 2: you're out when you catch the ball of the thrower

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Speaker 2: and dodgeball the throwers out and afterwards they have them

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Speaker 2: in the ice. Though you know the little interview, he's like,

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to pummel the and he said the

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Speaker 2: S word out of those kids, but I didn't think

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Speaker 2: that would be right. And I thought, this is so funny.

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Speaker 2: It was like a Peyton Manning snl skit. It was great.

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Speaker 3: I just it was funny because I cracked up, and

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Speaker 3: then like for two seconds, I went, oh, man, this

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Speaker 3: dude is serious, and I'll tell this story about about

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Speaker 3: cam Ward real fast. I uh, Sam Houston back in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty So this is the fall of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: so they had won the championship in the spring of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. So yeah, so yeah with after COVID,

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Speaker 3: so they haven't lost the football game in like twenty

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Speaker 3: games and they won twenty games.

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Speaker 1: In a row or something like that.

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Speaker 3: So the first round of the playoffs is against Incarnate

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Speaker 3: Word and it was at Sam and I didn't get

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Speaker 3: a chance to go to the game. I checked the scores.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's forty to forty one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Sam got out of there. They got lucky.

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Speaker 1: I get a.

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Speaker 3: Call from my good friend, our good friend Don Sanders,

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Speaker 3: and Donna's one of the great alumnus, one of the

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Speaker 3: great alums from Sam Houston.

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Speaker 1: And he calls me and he goes, hey, He's like

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Speaker 1: mister football. And I was like, oh, what's coming now.

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Speaker 3: He goes, why did you tell me about this quarterback

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Speaker 3: from Incarnate Word?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you know, I haven't watched

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Speaker 1: much Incarnate Word. He goes cam Ward.

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Speaker 3: He goes that dude almost single handedly beat Sam and.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay.

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Speaker 3: So it is at that point I go, I go

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Speaker 3: home and I go watch the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, holy cow, this guy's good.

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Speaker 3: And then he goes on his odyssey of going to

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Speaker 3: Washington State and then he goes to Miami and then

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Speaker 3: he becomes the number one pick. And I always say

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Speaker 3: this about my quarterbacks, or just quarterbacks in general. I

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Speaker 3: think the best quarterbacks in the league are those that

553
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Speaker 3: had to overcome adversity at some point. Josh Allen didn't

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Speaker 3: get recruited by anybody. He had to fight to get recruited.

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Speaker 1: You know. CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud was the last quarterback taken to lead eleven in

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Speaker 3: his class of twenty twenty season. He ends up being

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Speaker 3: MVP to lead eleven and things changed. Cam Ward was

559
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Speaker 3: a zero star recruit coming out of West Columbia High School.

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Speaker 3: They ran a wing tee. He didn't throw it, so,

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Speaker 3: you know, Bakers overcome adversity. Bakers another Yeah, Lake, Travis,

562
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Speaker 3: you wasn't supposed to be the start, and the starting

563
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Speaker 3: gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: He takes over.

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Speaker 3: He's a walk on at Texas Tech and walk on

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Speaker 3: at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Which okay, that's a story for a different day.

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Speaker 3: But cam Ward does worry me because they beat I

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Speaker 3: can't remember who they be, the Browns. They beat the

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Speaker 3: brown Oh, I don't know if you've gotten this far.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't spoil it. But it's so far. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: The Quarterback series on Netflix. I love it. I love

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Speaker 2: it really good. You know, it scares me as the

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Speaker 2: leader of the Titans. Somebody told me they heard my

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Speaker 2: voice on there, and yeah, they have some calls. They

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Speaker 2: have some Texans calls because these quarterbacks encounter the Texans,

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Speaker 2: so or some games. Yeah, anyway, that's it for the show.

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Speaker 2: If you missed any of it, it's in podcast form

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Speaker 2: on the Odyssey app and it will always will be

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Speaker 2: Spotify in just a bit and Houston Texans dot com

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Speaker 2: and wherever you get your podcasts. Area forty five is

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Speaker 2: coming up Monday. We will get ready for camp. It's

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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. We'll be live out there on the field

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Speaker 2: at the Houston Methodist Training Center, the humid tundra. Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night. Eight weekend, Go Texans, Hello Texans,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the weekend. And I am so excited because

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Speaker 2: it's moving very fast right this time. Next week we

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Speaker 2: will be talking about three practices and Johnny, will they

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Speaker 2: be in pads a week from tomorrow? Probably not? Will

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Speaker 2: they go four days no pads, take the day off

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Speaker 2: on Sunday next week and then go Monday pads. What

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Speaker 2: are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well, good evening, everybody. I think three

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Speaker 3: days in minimum can go into pads. Yeah, it has

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Speaker 3: to be three days ramp up period. You can, I

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Speaker 3: believe on the fourth day going to pads. But if

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Speaker 3: I remember correctly, the last three years, Demko has gone

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Speaker 3: four days in shorts of T shirts, day off. They

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Speaker 3: come out of the day off and they go into pads.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of what I would expect this year,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's I think that's the right thing

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Speaker 3: to do, especially in this location when you're going four

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Speaker 3: days and it's like what we've had the last few days,

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Speaker 3: one hundred degrees you know, one hundred percent humidity. You

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Speaker 3: you need that ramp in period. I know it's only

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Speaker 3: one day, but you need that ramp up period. So

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Speaker 3: my guess is that they will not be in pads

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Speaker 3: until that Monday. So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, shorts and

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Speaker 3: T shirts, and.

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Speaker 1: Then August third, that Monday. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: When people hear that, oh there are shorts and T shirts,

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna do this. They're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Those practices are wildly intense. Yeah, they are intense. They

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00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 3: get after it. They just don't have pads on. So

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Speaker 3: when you hear shorts and T shirts, there is no

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Speaker 3: drop off in the level of intensity at those practices.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it might be a notch higher because the

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Speaker 3: coaches are, look, you don't have pads on, let's go,

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Speaker 3: you should be fresher. I don't think coaches actually believe

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Speaker 3: all that, but they kind of tell themselves that. But

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Speaker 3: those practices are incredibly intense at the beginning, and that's

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Speaker 3: four days.

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Speaker 1: And then you get into pads.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Sunday, August second is a day off

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Speaker 3: day for everybody, and then Monday come back, and then

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Speaker 3: that day it is you know, you've bottled up all

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Speaker 3: this intensity from all those practices and you're like, man,

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Speaker 3: let's get after it's put these pads on. And the

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Speaker 3: first five plays are just you can hear the pads

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Speaker 3: pop all the way down Kirby.

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Speaker 1: And then it's kind of like, all right, man, it

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Speaker 1: is one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Degrees here, so it is naturally gonna drop off a

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Speaker 3: little bit as you go. But we know Demiko and

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00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: this staff they don't they don't let these guys back

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Speaker 3: off in the SLST and that's the way they play

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Speaker 3: on the field on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Don't let the smile fool you. It's tough out there.

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Speaker 2: They'll all tell you, the players will tell you, but

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Speaker 2: they can't question the head coach because he played. He

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00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: did it all at a very high level, at the

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Speaker 2: highest of levels. So there it is. And welcome to

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Like we said, we're gonna have some fun tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday night. Also, want to that the visitation and

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Speaker 2: services for missus McNair. Just so great to see everybody

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Speaker 2: remembering a great, great woman, and we will be honoring

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Speaker 2: her throughout the entire twenty fifth season of Texans History.

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Speaker 2: So looking forward to the entire campaign and honoring Missus

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Speaker 2: McNair in the process as part of it. Wow, what

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Speaker 2: a special time. We knew the twenty fifth season was coming.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we'd love to have her be a part of

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Speaker 2: it and see her or have her see this team

654
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: go to its greatest heights, but they'll have to do

655
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: it with her overseeing everything from a better place. And

656
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: I just can't say enough about it. Johnny yep.

657
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely all the love and respect to missus McNair. Mister McNair, Mark.

658
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: I just I think back. I was watching watching something

659
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: on TV that I can't remember, but it was something

660
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: that dated back to nineteen ninety six. It was thirty

661
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: years ago and I don't know, I can't remember what

662
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 3: it was. It means something about the Olympics. I can't remember,

663
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: but I just remember, No, nineteen ninety six, Oh man,

664
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: you know the oilers left after that, and and then

665
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: of course, just you know, you go through this kind

666
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: of flash forward of man, the McNair's bringing football to Houston.

667
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: And you know, it's one thing to bring a.

668
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: Football organization to a particular city, a city that you

669
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: know loves football the way that does and the way

670
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: that football was essentially ripped out.

671
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: Of its the you know, the city's hands.

672
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: But it's another to do it with class and love

673
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: and respect and positivity the way that McNair's displayed each

674
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: and every day that they lived, you know, lived their lives,

675
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: but in particular as you know, founders and owners of

676
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. And I feel like that's the one

677
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: thing that I have taken out of all of our

678
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: discussions of the McNair's young and old, is the respect

679
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: and positivity in the way things are done in that building.

680
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: And I just can't say enough about that aspect. And

681
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: you know, the love and respect that we have we

682
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: all have for missus McNair and the McNair's, I mean

683
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: it's I mean, I know, you know she passed away

684
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: week and a half, two weeks ago, whatever it might be,

685
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: and yet you you just can't say enough. Yeah, we

686
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: can be in we can be in November getting ready

687
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: for a game, and we can have a memory of

688
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: Missus McNair and of the mcnairs in general. So this

689
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: is that year, the twenty fifth season to you know,

690
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: really honor what the Texans have meant to the community,

691
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: but also remember what the McNair has meant to this

692
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: community as well. And she she was loved, She was loving.

693
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: It was amazing how much she just loved everybody around her.

694
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: And if you wore the logo she was. She was

695
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: all about what you did on a day to day

696
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: basis and just can never say enough about what she,

697
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: her husband, her kids, her in laws have all done

698
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: for this organization in this city.

699
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because in funny, strange, interesting, however you

700
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: want to use the context, it's a situation where when

701
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: you bring football back, you don't just change sports history

702
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: in the city. You change history in the city, the

703
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: history of Houston. I mean, this is a big part

704
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: of the history of the city, a huge part, and

705
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: they brought it back and it's phenomenal. So let's continue

706
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: to enjoy it. And let's move on here because I

707
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: want to, speaking of history, talk about a piece that

708
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: was on NFL dot Com, Johnny, and it was about

709
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: the MVP race, except they took an interesting slant here,

710
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: every team's MVP candidate other than the quarterback. Okay, how

711
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: about that? Okay, how about that? You cannot use quarterback

712
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: as your MVP candidate, so you take it out of

713
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: the mix. You know, for instance, the Chiefs can't say

714
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. They'd have to say Chris Jones or whatever

715
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: else they want to say. Right, Okay, So it's interesting

716
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: to look. And the Texans one was pretty obvious. Who

717
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: do you think they picked for the Texans MVP candidate

718
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: other than the quarterback one?

719
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior?

720
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: Easy pasy Right, And you do have other candidates, there's

721
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: no doubt, but Will Junior is the guy who's the

722
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: face just side the big contract. You have an outstanding

723
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: secondary of Derek Stingley Junior. But Will could affect just

724
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: about every play. I mean Stingley can too, but sometimes

725
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: he's just not gonna get thrown at. And maybe that

726
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: should be a statistic. You know how many times they

727
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: did not throw at me this year? That's a lot.

728
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about I mean yards per route for receiver,

730
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: what about you know, yards per route against Stingley? How

731
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: about how about it we do that stat that's got

732
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: to be a stat that's gotta be an analytic point somewhere.

733
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: So I was reading this seth Wickersham article cond on

734
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: at this point that was about Sean Payton and Sean

735
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: in their preparation for the AFC Championship game against the Patriots,

736
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: And in there they.

737
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Don't use a name.

738
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: They don't say a name, but they say they there's

739
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: a there's a quart at one point where Peyton's like, oh,

740
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: watch this, watch this, and he points out a defensive

741
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: back that makes a tackle, and then he gets up

742
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: kind of limping. He goes out for a play and

743
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: he comes back in and Peyton makes a comment like

744
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: we're throwing at that sucker or something along those lines.

745
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: And whenever we bring up Stingley and Lassiter and throwing

746
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: against the secondary in particular, I always wonder what that

747
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: conversation is like in opposing defensive rooms. Yeah, like, okay,

748
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna throw at twenty four. Well, okay, if we're not,

749
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: then we gotta throw against three. Well okay, well let's

750
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: just avoid it and throw in the middle of the field.

751
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: And well we gotta throw against that tert actle number two.

752
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: And it's like, I'd like to hear what opposing coaches

753
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: are saying in their rooms about throwing against his secondary,

754
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: because I can't imagine they go, ah, you know, we're

755
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: just throwing a twenty.

756
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: No, probably not gonna do it.

757
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna do it and get away with it.

758
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: So we brought up Will Junior. We end up having

759
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: a conversation about Derek Stingley Junior. But that's what happens sometimes.

760
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: Will Junior is the Texans MVP candidate. If you take

761
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: out quarterbacks in this piece, Johnny. The next one is

762
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: another easy one in the AFC South. It's the Tennessee Titans,

763
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: and it's darn easy. Who's their MVP candidate. If you

764
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: take out the quarterback cam Ward.

765
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Now, he'll never.

766
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 3: Win it, but I think he's one of I think

767
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: he's one of the top ten players in the league.

768
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: And that's Jeffrey Simmons. Wow, I mean, I think he's

769
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: that good. It's interesting because back in so he was

770
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: drafted in twenty nineteen I believe it's twenty nineteen, and

771
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: he tours ACL in January, and so when I did

772
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: my hairris one hundred at that time at twenty nineteen,

773
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: I had him number four overall and I just remember

774
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: what I saw based on how I think he'll test.

775
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: I think this dude's going in top five, there's no question.

776
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: And he tours ACL and I think there was kind

777
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: of as well. He did it in January, when are

778
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: we gonna get him back? And then Vrabel and the

779
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Titans just said, you know what, we'll get him in November, like,

780
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: come on, let's go. And I just hate the fact

781
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: that Titans did that. But he'll never win it. But

782
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: to me, I think he's one of the top ten

783
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: players in the league. And look, you got you don't

784
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: really have to watch the Titans all that much to

785
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: see how much he impacts the game. But I've seen

786
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: every play he's played since twenty nineteen from field level,

787
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: and he's just dominant.

788
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: He's absolutely dominant.

789
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: And if Simmons had been on the Rams, or he

790
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: had been on I don't know the Seahawks, right, he

791
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 3: would get MVP considered, like true MVP consideration. He would

792
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: get that because he's that dominant.

793
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: But he won't.

794
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: But I think he's one of the top ten to

795
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: twelve players in this league. And as Jeffrey Simmons.

796
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an easy one as well. And the next

797
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: eas he won is the Colts. Because if you take

798
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: out the quarterback, the MVP candidate is.

799
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: I think it's Jonathan Taylor.

800
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: Question Jonathan Taylor, It's got to be Jonathan Taylor. But

801
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: now we move along as we go through this piece

802
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: to the final team in the AFC South, and this

803
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: is where they really hit the dirt. Okay, they screwed

804
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: up big time on this one, the Jags. Now, as

805
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: I thought about the Jags, I didn't look I didn't

806
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: look at who they picked, and I thought, it's actually

807
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: a pretty tough one because who's the second best or

808
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: most important most valuable player on the Jaguars. If it

809
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: was last year, he'd say it's formerly known as etn Etchin. Now, Travis,

810
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: you'd say that, But with him gone, you're not gonna

811
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: say toutin. Are you gonna say one of the defensive guys?

812
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: Who are you gonna say, Johnny, who do you think

813
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: they picked for the Jaguars MVP candidate? If you take

814
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: out the quarterback?

815
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: My initial reaction was like yours, like god Lee, And

816
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: then I thought about how we lost the game in

817
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 3: Week three and that was because of josh Heines Allen.

818
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: And I don't think that josh Heines Allen. I want

819
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: to say this properly because I feel like josh Heines

820
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: Allen when it feels like people watch him and they're like, hey,

821
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: this is one of the most underrated players in the league.

822
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: And Josh Heines Allen, it's like he's not bon Miller's

823
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: speed off the edge, he's not Will Anderson's power. You know,

824
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: he's not got a ton of moves like Daniil, but

825
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: he does a little bit of everything. He has power,

826
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: you know, he's really good with his hands, He's really

827
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: good in everything. So when you put it all together,

828
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: he's probably the most impactful player that they have outside

829
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: of Trevor Lawrence. So my guess is they probably didn't

830
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: put josh Heines Allen, but I think that's probably who.

831
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: It should be.

832
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, it should be Josh Heines Allen.

833
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: He could affect the game way more than Travis Hunter

834
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: is who they picked. Are you kidding me?

835
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: Top time out?

836
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy out, it's crazy Travis Hunter would Yes,

837
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: it's nuts. Johnny and somebody posted yesterday's numbers next to Hunter,

838
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: because I guess somebody made a comment about how Hunter

839
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: might be better than Lassat or something like that. And again,

840
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's in the Twitter sphere, so it's just

841
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: all over the place and I can't keep track of

842
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: it all. But I just thought, what GM on Planet

843
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 2: Earth would take Travis Hunter over Kamari Lassiter right now?

844
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Right now? Zero people. The answer is zero, including the

845
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: Jaguars themselves. I'm not saying Travis is a bad guy.

846
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: He's not going to be a good player, but are

847
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Lassiter? Lassiter, who makes plays, who sets

848
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: the tone. You know, we talk about all the defensive

849
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: guys on this team. We can just isolate Lassiter and

850
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: if that's all you had, Like if you gave Lassitor

851
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: to the Colts and you took away Sauce, you'd say, oh,

852
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: they've got lass That's what you'd be saying. More than Sauce, probably, yes, more.

853
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: I'll say it there too, thoughts.

854
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: I just look, I want to I mean, when it

855
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: comes to Travis Hunt, and I'll say this, I love

856
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: the fact that he played both ways in college, Like

857
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: It's one of the things that I absolutely love about

858
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: the fact that Travis Hunter played both ways in college

859
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: and he could do it all.

860
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: His hands are great.

861
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: As a defensive back, I don't think he's as good

862
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: as people think he's I should put this way.

863
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: He is far from a polished product.

864
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Kamari came into the league a more polished defensive back prospect.

865
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: And I know what people will say, Well, yeah, Travis

866
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: was busy playing wide.

867
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: Receiver in corner.

868
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, Well, do you want a above average

869
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: wide receiver above average corner?

870
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay?

871
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: Or do you want a well above average corner makes

872
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl in his second year and is rock

873
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: solid on the other side of one of the best

874
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: in the league, and you have two of the best league.

875
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: I feel like the Travis Hunter hype and love goes

876
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: off the charts. I remember in our game in Week three,

877
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: they threw him a ball in the flat and he

878
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: juked somebody.

879
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: I think it may have been Henry.

880
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: He juked Henry got up the field for like twenty

881
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: yards and I saw that play for five weeks on

882
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: social media. It's like that was the one play. Nico

883
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: kept cooking him on slants. He didn't do anything at

884
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: all as a rookie. He had one touchdown reception that

885
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: happened in London. I don't think he had any other.

886
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: He showed he was not polished as either a receiver

887
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: or a corner. And then there's this toll. Yeah, we

888
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: are going to have him play both ways, and look,

889
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: I do I do absolutely respect anybody that has the

890
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: athletic ability to play both corner and wide receiver. And

891
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: I think even in limited snaps he's proven that he

892
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: can play both. But he's not going to be able

893
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: to play him at a high level because we know what.

894
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: This league is all about, exactly exactly Johnny, and I

895
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: don't think it goes to.

896
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Show this mark. It also goes to show this.

897
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: It shows that are the Jaguars really all that talented

898
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: of a roster because ah Chan and Devin Lloyd, who

899
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: I thought both of those were the best on either

900
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: side of the ball, they're both gone. If you don't

901
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: think josh Heinz Allen has got it anymore to be

902
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: above Travis Hunter and MVP sans quarterback rating, then what

903
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: do you really have?

904
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: What do you really have to have? Receivers that's scary?

905
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: You got big question marks and Brian Thomas Junior, you

906
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: have a big question mark still in Travis Hunter, you know,

907
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: but he's on Adidas commercials and Dick Sporting Goods commercials,

908
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: always gonna be great. I swear it's not that I

909
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: want to see Travis Hunter fail, but I want the

910
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: people that have just been so stupid about this analysis

911
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: of Travis Hunter.

912
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be this, he's gonna be that. Why, Well,

913
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: because you did go.

914
00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: It's like it's like everything Colorado, everything Robo has just

915
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: been so.

916
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: Way over hyped.

917
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's saying over.

918
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: I just don't don't. I don't understand, you know who.

919
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: It's not fair to Travis Hunter. It's not fair to him.

920
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: All right, he comes in, you move up to get him.

921
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: He's a rookie last year. It's hard enough to be

922
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 2: a rookie. It's hard enough to be Will Anderson junior rookie. Okay,

923
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: it's really difficult to do that. It's really difficult to

924
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: be Derek Stingley junior rookie. Right when you're outstanding, you're

925
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: projected to be great at your position that you're focused on.

926
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Now you want him to focus on both and be

927
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: great at it at his size too. There's something wrong

928
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: with that. But let me read you what they write.

929
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Just to cap off the paragraph on Travis Hunter, non

930
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: quarterback MVP candidate for the Jaguars, if Hunter proves to

931
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: be a number one corner and generates eight hundred to

932
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: one thousand receiving yards, he'll be doing something no one

933
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: in the modern era has touched. Yeah, because he won't

934
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: be doing it. Okay, eight hundred to one thousand receiving

935
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 2: yards and a number one corner not walking through that door.

936
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: And even Dion didn't do that, So let's calm down, people.

937
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: Geez, that would be something nobody in the history of

938
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: the game has ever done.

939
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: I think I said modern era because he he didn't

940
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: want to bother looking it up. He didn't want to

941
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: bother looking up leather helmets, so he's like modern era.

942
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: Just it's fine, just say modern era. You're good. You're good.

943
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: They weren't, you know, teams weren't throwing the ball with

944
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: that sort of no, that sort of you know, high

945
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: level you know, throw.

946
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: The ball five hundred times this season or whatever.

947
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: Your teams are lucky if they had seventeen hundred passing

948
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: yards for a whole season back then. So when you're

949
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: talking about quote unquote modern era. Okay, that's cool, you're

950
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: basically talking about the last fifty years.

951
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: But it's just it's Matt.

952
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: Oh he's gonna come up with eight hundred to one

953
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: thousand receiving yards and turn into the number one corner

954
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: on what Yeah. Absolutely, he'll be the MVP if he

955
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: does those things. And there's no chance he those things.

956
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let's rifle through some other ones here. We did

957
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: the whole division. What do you think the one is

958
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: of the Broncos, the non quarterback MVP possible candidate here?

959
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Uh, for the Broncos, they better not say Jalen Wattle.

960
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean out they say Jalen Waddle. But they said that.

961
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: They said they were leaning Nick Benito, but they went Wattle.

962
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: I thought Benito's probably a better pick, right, That's.

963
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: What my guess was going to be, was Benito.

964
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: I think anybody that has an opportunity to get the

965
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: twenty sacks is going to have a shot at the MVP,

966
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: a shot at it, and that's that's what we're talking about. Yeah,

967
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: you have a shot at it, and I think Benito

968
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 3: has he has the ability now he's you know, healthy.

969
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: I think he had some nagging injuries last year, but

970
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: he's he's tremendous.

971
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: Anybody that's got a shot again twenty sacks I think

972
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 3: should be in that mix. Now, I don't think josh

973
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: heinz Allen can get the twenty sacks, but I do

974
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: think Josh heinz Allen can give you a solid fifteen

975
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: sacks season and then a bunch of TFLs because he

976
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: does set the edge and play the run pretty well.

977
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I would have gone with Josh hanz Allen.

978
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I was gonna say Benito, but Jayalen

979
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: Wattle is that guy.

980
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: We don't have time to do them all. But I

981
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: just spotted one that I should have singled out here,

982
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens. What do you think they said non quarterback

983
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: MVP kendidate for the Ravens. To me, it's pretty much

984
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: a slam dunk here. Okay, there's only one obvious choice,

985
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: but they picked somebody else. Who did they pick?

986
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: Well, the obvious choice is King Derrick Henry. They probably

987
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: chose Kyle Hamilton.

988
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: They chose Hendrickson, who just joined the team this offseason.

989
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: Again, that my theory of could he get twenty sacks? Yeah?

990
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I just mark, I just don't buy It's funny.

991
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: When Trey Hendrickson was coming out of college, I loved

992
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: him because nobody's talking about him. He's that FAU and

993
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, there is pass Rusher FAU.

994
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: That's he's tremendous.

995
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: He's gone from being the most underrated player in the

996
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: league to all of a sudden.

997
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: He's a MVP.

998
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: Can't like what I don't. I don't buy it. No,

999
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: not good for them to be fair for them, no

1000
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: way to.

1001
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Be fair to NFL dot Com. They're not saying these

1002
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: guys are bona fide MVP candidates, But if you had

1003
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: to pick one for every team other than the quarterback,

1004
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: those are the names they came up with. We could

1005
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: have some more fun with that on Monday. But next up,

1006
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: Johnny and I did a TV special. It's Texans twenty

1007
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: fifth season preview and it's a great training camp primer.

1008
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: So our segments on offense and defense for TV and

1009
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: radio coming up in the next segment. You want to

1010
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: get to know this team quickly, Readers, digest, We've got

1011
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: it for you. Coming up on Texans Radio