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Speaker 2: It's an exciting night. There's so many stars outside, there's
Speaker 2: so much good food outside. Bob and I can't wait
Speaker 2: to get out there. But right now, we cannot wait
Speaker 2: to talk to Jonathan from the previous season.
Speaker 3: Of The Bachelor at Gentran season. I call him Jiggity j.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was just trying to get to
Speaker 2: that and I couldn't remember what he calls him, jiggy j.
Speaker 2: You call yourself a little bit, a little bit everyone else.
Speaker 3: I call him jiggy Jay, and he adopted that as
Speaker 3: his bondy.
Speaker 2: What does it come from?
Speaker 4: In my defense, I didn't make it my Instagram handle,
Speaker 4: but I don't refer to myself as Jiggity John.
Speaker 5: And I didn't come up with childhood did.
Speaker 4: There was just like a random morning we're I think
Speaker 4: we're on vacation somewhere, and he came in after a
Speaker 4: night of drinking and I was like, I was just
Speaker 4: saying some some bs and he was just like, shut up,
Speaker 4: Jiggity out of nowhere, just literally out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: And I went the old school bombed diggity right, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: you wouldn't have known that side, all right, So no
Speaker 6: jiggity uh here tonight and we.
Speaker 2: Talk about your life post show. You've been up to
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 5: Obviously.
Speaker 2: My co host who's not here tonight, Ashley, absolutely loved
Speaker 2: she picked you as her He picked you, and then
Speaker 2: we've been covering every headline you make and to.
Speaker 3: Pick you as well as she. Yeah, actually I think
Speaker 3: she tries to pick you as well.
Speaker 2: But the show never picked you as a bachelor, and
Speaker 2: so my first question was is that disappointing?
Speaker 4: It's hard now that I've had more time to think
Speaker 4: on it, but I never had any expectation of it.
Speaker 4: You know, I went on with just an open mind
Speaker 4: and like an open art. I was like, this is
Speaker 4: gonna be a fun opportunity, and if I happened to
Speaker 4: find my person on here, cool, like awesome. There was
Speaker 4: no expectation of anything after the fact.
Speaker 3: So did you feel like you've found your person though?
Speaker 3: Did you feel like Jen was your person?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think in the moment, yes, you know,
Speaker 4: you're kind of shut off from reality. You have you,
Speaker 4: and there's one other person to worry about because.
Speaker 3: We got kind of sucked into it. At least twist
Speaker 3: than I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did a Dancing with the.
Speaker 3: Star recap every week and we'd see you in the crowd.
Speaker 3: We're like, oh my god, it's happening, Like he's there
Speaker 3: supporting and is he gonna fight Sasha?
Speaker 2: Who knows?
Speaker 3: Like what's gonna happen? You know.
Speaker 2: We were like making up our own the next like
Speaker 2: Jake Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were so.
Speaker 5: We were so even though we have no beef, I
Speaker 5: think it would be hilarious because.
Speaker 3: We thought you guys, like we thought that's why you
Speaker 3: were there and you were supporting our as our friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah one, And that was the only reason I wanted
Speaker 5: to be there too.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: She came to l A and initially on the show,
Speaker 4: like one of the things that kind of stuck out
Speaker 4: from us of not working out was distance.
Speaker 5: She's like, I would never want to move to l A.
Speaker 5: I don't like LA. And I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to Miami, like for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3: Amo. Yeah, as Little Smith One said, it's Spanish, I
Speaker 3: don't buddy, I speak I speak ESPN.
Speaker 4: But then she gets here and she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I love La, but she doesn't have anybody, so I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I I want to step
Speaker 4: up and just be person. You know, you came off,
Speaker 4: you went through a whirl end of and I was like,
Speaker 4: I have enough like availability and like my heart to
Speaker 4: like bring somebody else in and care for them, especially
Speaker 4: if they don't have anybody.
Speaker 5: So I just did my best to be there for
Speaker 5: her and her that somebody like does care.
Speaker 2: That that's very nice.
Speaker 5: So I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trista loved like. So I wasn't as able because
Speaker 3: I have a couple of little kids. I wasn't as
Speaker 3: able to watch Gen season as I wanted to be.
Speaker 3: I thought she was lovely. I thought you were definitely
Speaker 3: a stand up person on the show. I was. I
Speaker 3: was surprised, I will say, I was surprised that you
Speaker 3: weren't the guy in the end. And I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously it didn't work out for Gen in
Speaker 3: that regard, so that was kind of a bummer. Has
Speaker 3: there been any thought of revisiting that relationship? I mean,
Speaker 3: has there ever been you know, I mean it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be there. Has it been anything during dancing specifically?
Speaker 4: Yeah, not really. You know, it was very platonic friendship.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to put any of that pressure on
Speaker 4: her either, and I don't think she was in a
Speaker 4: place for it at all. And we both understood what
Speaker 4: we need to be there for each other for. You know,
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people like to.
Speaker 5: Look for that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why people watch The Bachelor. They want
Speaker 4: that beauty of a romance. The people who still believe
Speaker 4: in like that romantic love, that deep love. That's what
Speaker 4: they watch because they still believe in it and they
Speaker 4: want for that to happen.
Speaker 5: It didn't work out.
Speaker 4: With the first two guys, so they're like, all right, well,
Speaker 4: who's the next best option, which, like, once I started
Speaker 4: to think, I was like, that's kind of shitty, Like
Speaker 4: I'm the next best option, which I didn't.
Speaker 5: Like to think about.
Speaker 4: As But like in that scenario, you know, we were
Speaker 4: just platonic friends, and I think we both knew like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have fun together, Like we're gonna make videos
Speaker 4: together because people love to see it. And that's really it,
Speaker 4: Like it wasn't anything more than that.
Speaker 2: It brings me to ask, and we have to ask
Speaker 2: because of what we do for a living here. Gin
Speaker 2: season I think will go down as history tells it
Speaker 2: as one of the oddest seasons of all time within
Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation. Yeah, I think it was exciting. I think
Speaker 2: people got into it. I think it ended in a
Speaker 2: way that fans weren't thrilled about. And then it just
Speaker 2: got weirder, like you know, the Devin blew himself up
Speaker 2: thirty times post then it's wild. So I want to
Speaker 2: hear from you your thoughts now as you look back
Speaker 2: on this experience and being a friend platonic friend with
Speaker 2: Jen yep, how do you make sense of all? Like, like,
Speaker 2: what what do you make sense of? I guess in
Speaker 2: the midst of this chaos?
Speaker 3: Well, and I would ask this too, like were you
Speaker 3: and Devin and I'm sorry that I don't know this,
Speaker 3: were you guys friendly? Like would you consider him a friend?
Speaker 3: And then watching how this whole thing unfolded, were you
Speaker 3: like what the actual fing h is going on? Like,
Speaker 3: I mean, were you kind of in the same ballpark
Speaker 3: as the rest of us watching or were you kind
Speaker 3: of like I get him? Yeah, you know, I'd like
Speaker 3: to know that part too. Okay, the gen part first, though,
Speaker 3: because I think that's the most important part.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's a it's a long winded,
Speaker 4: but I know we're working on a time crunch. Bring
Speaker 4: it together a little bit. Wait, what was the gen
Speaker 4: part specifically?
Speaker 2: Well, I just think it's how do you make sense
Speaker 2: of this whole thing? You just went through it? Mean,
Speaker 2: it was your life, this was time is the most
Speaker 2: valuable resource we have on Earth. You spent your time
Speaker 2: on this thing, and now you look back and you go,
Speaker 2: what was this all for? Because the whole thing got
Speaker 2: weird real fast and kept getting weird posts, yeah, and
Speaker 2: so like just overall, like what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: it all?
Speaker 5: Honestly?
Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I just on the show. After
Speaker 4: the show, I stayed in my own lane, Like I
Speaker 4: didn't get involved in any of the shit, none of
Speaker 4: the drama. And that's just not me. Like I don't
Speaker 4: walk into a room and try to big dick a
Speaker 4: bunch of other guys because I just don't care. Like
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna live my life. I'm gonna do me,
Speaker 4: and I'm confident enough in who I am what I
Speaker 4: have to offer them. I'm just like somebody doesn't want that,
Speaker 4: Like that's fine, somebody else will appreciate it, and that's cool.
Speaker 5: So I never really thought I guess.
Speaker 4: Maybe the way some of them did were like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be the best guy in this Sinnari, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: win her over in this way and that way and whatever.
Speaker 4: I was just like, okay, it's a bunch of noise.
Speaker 4: Like you guys, do whatever it is that you think
Speaker 4: you need to do to impress this girl. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna have fun with her and be me every time
Speaker 4: we hang out, and that's gonna be my game plan.
Speaker 4: And it worked out fine for me. So trying to
Speaker 4: make sense of it, I didn't really need to make
Speaker 4: sense of it because it did make sense.
Speaker 3: It didn't affect you, It.
Speaker 4: Didn't affect me at all, Like everybody else was on
Speaker 4: their own whatever, and I had me at her and
Speaker 4: then there was a bunch of noise trying to disrupt
Speaker 4: what we had, but I just ignored it and it
Speaker 4: was fine. Which is easier said than done. Great, No,
Speaker 4: it's much easier said than done. You need to be
Speaker 4: able to compartmentalize, but you know what you sign up
Speaker 4: for when you get into it. Yeah, So when you
Speaker 4: have that like understanding, you kind of just like get see.
Speaker 3: I love that you said that, because I think sometimes
Speaker 3: people don't remember what they signed up for.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: If you go on a show in this girl, this
Speaker 3: gorgeous girl is dating twenty of your new buddies yep,
Speaker 3: or thirty or whatever the hellth number is, and it's
Speaker 3: like sometimes people get like so pissed off about that.
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, we all know what we're here for.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would agree with that to a moment, and
Speaker 2: then say, Bob, I don't know if you felt this way.
Speaker 2: This is a huge chapter of my life. Jiggity over
Speaker 2: here for Jiggity j because of this show and for
Speaker 2: me the show, even though it's not influential as much
Speaker 2: in my life now, it's still probably to this day
Speaker 2: a top three most impactful moment in my life, and
Speaker 2: so it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a top four once you have your child.
Speaker 4: Child.
Speaker 2: But even if I wanted to move on and do
Speaker 2: my own thing, I necessarily can't because that experience as
Speaker 2: a whole has still defined me and the people on
Speaker 2: that season has still defined me, and people still come
Speaker 2: up to me and say that season that you were
Speaker 2: on I remember for this reason, resonate and That's where
Speaker 2: my question was coming from. Was your season historically will
Speaker 2: go down as one of the most not disappointed. I
Speaker 2: don't want to use that word, but maybe maybe just
Speaker 2: like sad seasons that I can ever remember in terms
Speaker 2: of not only how it ended, but then transpired afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and for you, Yes, this is going to be an
Speaker 2: impactful moment in your life. You are a big part
Speaker 2: of this season. Yeah, Instead does that anger you at all?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 4: And this is the best part about playing my own
Speaker 4: game during and after the show is that darkness never
Speaker 4: consumed me. I was aware of it, and I saw
Speaker 4: it and I lived in it, but it never like
Speaker 4: took over my image and who I was and what
Speaker 4: I was there to accomplish. And I think people saw
Speaker 4: me as a light album because that was my goal.
Speaker 2: Is a good thing to come exactly.
Speaker 4: And I made that a very big point with me
Speaker 4: and Jen two. I was like, I want to be
Speaker 4: a breath of fresh air every time we hang out.
Speaker 4: I don't want to trauma dump on you. I don't
Speaker 4: want to put my issues on you. I want to
Speaker 4: get to know you in a healthy way, in a
Speaker 4: healthy manner.
Speaker 5: And that's it. And that was post show too. After
Speaker 5: all the things from Devin, just everything that had happened,
Speaker 5: I was just.
Speaker 4: Like, dude, I just want to be there for you,
Speaker 4: and I want to be a positive light approach.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: just focus on your personal relationship and you being you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's actually pretty wid It's a very wise thing because
Speaker 3: you still have to go home. Yeah, you can't be
Speaker 3: this douchebag who just dumps on people and then goes
Speaker 3: home and everyone thinks, oh, no, it's cool, we understand
Speaker 3: you were playing a character on TV. No, it's still
Speaker 3: called reality TV. It's still you. So at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, you're not being fed lions. If you're
Speaker 3: saying these things, there are still you, and you actually
Speaker 3: handle yourself in a way that you guys are still friends.
Speaker 2: I think it's a huge compliment to you, is that
Speaker 2: you can still be friends with somebody who had such
Speaker 2: a hard ending and you were a breath of fresh
Speaker 2: air from that season for her in a friendship way.
Speaker 2: And that's what Caitlin and I's relationship was when I
Speaker 2: was on the ship on the batch, right, Like we're
Speaker 2: still friends of this day and that's something that's meaningful
Speaker 2: to me. My wife knows that, like Caitlin Bristow's friendship
Speaker 2: with me is meaningful to me. It means wait in
Speaker 2: my life because if anything else in that season, at
Speaker 2: least she can look back and say I made a
Speaker 2: friend through it. Yeah, my god, thirty dudes, I've made
Speaker 2: one friend.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be sitting in that exact same.
Speaker 3: Day there. I mean, we are still friends. You know.
Speaker 3: They even put me in a situation where I had
Speaker 3: to host their bachelor and Bachelrette party and it was
Speaker 3: they were it was all these producers sweeping in and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I remember the look on my face looking
Speaker 3: just like I'm sorry. I don't even know why I'm
Speaker 3: asking this series of questions I'm supposed to answer. It's
Speaker 3: like crazy, But it's like we're still friends to this day.
Speaker 3: So you can walk away with that, you know, you
Speaker 3: can still have.
Speaker 2: And I think years from now that will be really meaningful.
Speaker 2: Now we have a short amount of time with you,
Speaker 2: I think one really think unique thing that we want
Speaker 2: to tap into with you is if we looked at
Speaker 2: past seasons, Bachelor in Paradise would have always been something
Speaker 2: that people like you would have not only gone on,
Speaker 2: but fans would have flocked to cheering you on too.
Speaker 2: We know that Bathe Room Paris is coming back at
Speaker 2: some in some way, in some way we don't know
Speaker 2: yet in what way that is? Uh, would you say
Speaker 2: yes to it? Would be my first question. This is
Speaker 2: a two parter, and does it excite you to say
Speaker 2: yes to it or no to it?
Speaker 3: Well? And I love that. And also because you have
Speaker 3: watched other seasons, right, so you would know that there
Speaker 3: could be potentially be some people that maybe you would
Speaker 3: have interest in.
Speaker 2: Yep, Is that is that?
Speaker 3: Do you have?
Speaker 5: I got a quick answer for both. Awesome, love it one.
Speaker 5: I've already been asked and I said yes.
Speaker 3: Excellent.
Speaker 4: On the mental law, okay, when we went over like
Speaker 4: my journey at the very end, Jesse told me onstage
Speaker 4: and he's like, well, it's good to hear.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: There's this beach and everybody in my mind I was like,
Speaker 4: I already did this. I want to say no, like beforehand,
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was coming. And then everybody's like cheering.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well shit, I gotta go now, so I go.
Speaker 5: Yes. What scares me is I do.
Speaker 4: Hear a lot of people saying people either go there
Speaker 4: to destroy their image or make up for it. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I believe enough of myself and the decisions
Speaker 4: I make that I don't think my image is going
Speaker 4: to be destroyed when I go. You know, I'm going
Speaker 4: to go in with the right intention in the right heart,
Speaker 4: and hopefully it comes.
Speaker 3: To go there and destroy their image or the people
Speaker 3: that are the image, right, the people that go there,
Speaker 3: like honestly, like, why would you go there? And if
Speaker 3: you're if you're the nice guy.
Speaker 2: Well, because you're not gonna go there, because he could
Speaker 2: go to the beach and all of a sudden, four
Speaker 2: women are all like jig oh, jiggity, yeah.
Speaker 4: They better not call me jig, Like, what's up, jigs?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure it would be great for the Instagram,
Speaker 4: but like, but if.
Speaker 2: They say johnthan I am so into you, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this poor guy is sitting in a
Speaker 2: place where he can't win.
Speaker 3: Oh, so you guys are saying, actually, they don't go
Speaker 3: on there with the intention to destroy, they just have
Speaker 3: they go on there and it does destroy exactly.
Speaker 4: Because there's four and like you feel, let's I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm very empathetic. I feel bad so like I
Speaker 4: try to like give them all a chance, and one
Speaker 4: of them would end up having a certain way to
Speaker 4: feel about me giving the other girls a chance, and
Speaker 4: that's the clippable ship they want.
Speaker 5: When you you.
Speaker 3: You had said something from your season when you said
Speaker 3: you went on with a plan. So I think that
Speaker 3: in of itself is like I didn't have any plan
Speaker 3: I went on. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna come on
Speaker 3: this show and I'm gonna have some cocktails, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: eat some uh, you know, appetizers, and I'm gonna you
Speaker 3: maybe get a flower. I'm gonna make out of summing.
Speaker 3: You went on with a plan, right, so you're already
Speaker 3: one step ahead of the game. And I think all
Speaker 3: the people come on the show now are one step
Speaker 3: ahead of the game. They realized they need to have
Speaker 3: some type of plan. So the fact that you would
Speaker 3: actually have a plan going on to a bachelum paradise.
Speaker 2: Type of situation, I think in what what he would
Speaker 2: be saying to is his plan is to be himself,
Speaker 2: which has worked out so far, and so if your
Speaker 2: plan is to be yourself and going back to Bob's question.
Speaker 2: I'm not letting you get out of that chair unless
Speaker 2: you give us as you know that you'd be interested
Speaker 2: in meeting on the beach.
Speaker 5: You know you're gonna you're gonna hate for me.
Speaker 4: Is I have and that actually you're gonna love this? Well,
Speaker 4: you're gonna love this in particular, you're talking about having
Speaker 4: a plan. Yes, since the moment I was asked, my
Speaker 4: plan has to give no ammunition to anybody in the
Speaker 4: sense of if I say something now that can that
Speaker 4: will live on forever. If I go, hey, I'm excited
Speaker 4: to see A or B. Right, well, now A or
Speaker 4: B has this in mind that they're going to get
Speaker 4: to see me, he's excited to see me, and they
Speaker 4: could use that again, use it for me. And I
Speaker 4: want to go in open minded, open hearted, and have
Speaker 4: somebody excited to see me.
Speaker 5: I would love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I want to meet you, But I don't want to
Speaker 4: be caught in a position where I said something beforehand
Speaker 4: and now I'm to that thing when I have not
Speaker 4: met somebody saying.
Speaker 2: You haven't been to stage coach in the last eight months.
Speaker 4: Stage coach is the great on doing all Bachelor paradise
Speaker 4: going to stage.
Speaker 2: We've had many an interview.
Speaker 4: I have a hard rule in this in this au festivals,
Speaker 4: no body from bachelination at all, No women, No keep
Speaker 4: doing DM them, none of them.
Speaker 2: That's gonna get that weird love trying to out be honest.
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna fail. Miserable you think so, Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, it's anybody?
Speaker 5: Was that anybody?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I didn't mean the d m ing part.
Speaker 3: I just meant, like you, you're saying that you're not
Speaker 3: gonna cross paths when anyone.
Speaker 4: I'm going to hook up with anybody from I'm going
Speaker 4: to cause zero.
Speaker 2: It's a different world today than when we existed.
Speaker 4: Wow, you have to understand you non doing it. There's
Speaker 4: no solid proof that anything happened. If there's test or
Speaker 4: d MS or whatever, this is.
Speaker 3: A photographic evidence, then you're good with it.
Speaker 2: Which happens, which thank you. There's no moments you get
Speaker 2: past Bob, you're still remembering your time where you're like, wait,
Speaker 2: it was high on the side of the cave. You
Speaker 2: had to write a letter I did and send it
Speaker 2: out and say hey, hang out, Freddy, I would like
Speaker 2: the envelope like f YI, music's saying. He's saying, so
Speaker 2: clean from all this, He's entering into paradise with this
Speaker 2: slate that is just.
Speaker 4: White and the it's probably putting a target on my
Speaker 4: back now that they're like, oh, we're going to get
Speaker 4: this money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4: About it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it on the I'm so excited.
Speaker 5: Yes we got as I thought he was saying. But
Speaker 5: he's not.
Speaker 2: He tried so hard.
Speaker 4: And so the people outside of the show, and not
Speaker 4: all of them, some of them have like almost scared
Speaker 4: me into this belief too, which is really shitty to say. Like,
Speaker 4: there was a moment where I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: two really quick ones. There was a moment that I
Speaker 4: was at Starbucks with my mom and somebody took a
Speaker 4: picture of us having a conversation outside this is the
Speaker 4: local Starbucks by my house, took a picture of it,
Speaker 4: put on Reddit and was like Jonathan's having a heated argument.
Speaker 5: With this woman, blah blah blah. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And then but then somebody goes that's his mom, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's weird, Like why are you photographing in
Speaker 4: a conversation I'm having with my mom? And then trying
Speaker 4: to pass it off is I'm having a conversation with
Speaker 4: some woman that we're having an argument in public, my mom,
Speaker 4: We're talking literally just talking. And there's been other ones
Speaker 4: where I've just been friendly to people in DMS. I
Speaker 4: would never hang out with somebody that's a fan or
Speaker 4: like whatever. Ever again to keep that clean slate. And
Speaker 4: somebody thought that we had something like special and decided
Speaker 4: to come after me and comments and like be like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're a joke to think I was going to fly
Speaker 4: out there to like see you and this and that,
Speaker 4: And I'm like I was being friendly and we were
Speaker 4: talking about travel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And now I.
Speaker 3: Don't respond above the frame that regard because you can't
Speaker 3: other people's twisted imagination. You can't live up to that.
Speaker 3: That's that's gonna be their own thing at the end
Speaker 3: of the day. Stay true to you, be the jig
Speaker 3: d J that we've come to know and love, right,
Speaker 3: I mean I love it.
Speaker 2: I think about you're doing so much from this season
Speaker 2: of Paradise now because Wells is one of my best
Speaker 2: friends in the world. You need to lean on Wells
Speaker 2: when you're down there. It was my one. But I
Speaker 2: cannot wait to watch and and I hope they don't
Speaker 2: get them, Bob, I really hope they don't. I hope
Speaker 2: they don't go after it. I don't want to get
Speaker 2: I don't want he wants to actually meet somebody. So
Speaker 2: let's just put it over the because we have a
Speaker 2: lot of don't Jake Well's Manhattan's because those are disaster
Speaker 2: but of listeners to this show. Uh so, a lot
Speaker 2: of people are gonna hear it. We're gonna hear right
Speaker 2: now and put it in stone because it's going to
Speaker 2: protect you. Is like, don't go after this guy, like
Speaker 2: he wants to meet somebody. He's trying to keep himself clean,
Speaker 2: he's just being a nice guy. If this show goes
Speaker 2: after him. As fans, because we have a lot of
Speaker 2: the fans listening, we rebel against that. We we we
Speaker 2: stand up and say that's not true. Yeah, and we
Speaker 2: just want them. We want them to be friends. I
Speaker 2: want love to come from it. And the second thing
Speaker 2: is I cannot wait to watch this season.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be great too.
Speaker 2: Hey, this has been the Almost Famous podcast until next time.
Speaker 5: I've been Ben Jonathan and
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