WEBVTT - Ben's Baby Shower with Jonathan Johnson 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.760 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:04.680 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:09.119 It's an exciting night. There's so many stars outside, there's 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.680 so much good food outside. Bob and I can't wait 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.760 to get out there. But right now, we cannot wait 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.280 to talk to Jonathan from the previous season. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.680 Of The Bachelor at Gentran season. I call him Jiggity j. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.400 Yeah, that's what I was just trying to get to 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.520 that and I couldn't remember what he calls him, jiggy j. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.560 You call yourself a little bit, a little bit everyone else. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.120 I call him jiggy Jay, and he adopted that as 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:32.520 his bondy. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:33.480 What does it come from? 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.800 In my defense, I didn't make it my Instagram handle, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.280 but I don't refer to myself as Jiggity John. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.760 And I didn't come up with childhood did. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.640 There was just like a random morning we're I think 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.800 we're on vacation somewhere, and he came in after a 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.640 night of drinking and I was like, I was just 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.559 saying some some bs and he was just like, shut up, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.280 Jiggity out of nowhere, just literally out of nowhere. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:01:02.800 And I went the old school bombed diggity right, I mean, yeah, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.440 you wouldn't have known that side, all right, So no 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.559 jiggity uh here tonight and we. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.200 Talk about your life post show. You've been up to 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:13.800 a lot. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.039 Obviously. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.759 My co host who's not here tonight, Ashley, absolutely loved 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.240 she picked you as her He picked you, and then 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.880 we've been covering every headline you make and to. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.480 Pick you as well as she. Yeah, actually I think 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.480 she tries to pick you as well. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.440 But the show never picked you as a bachelor, and 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.000 so my first question was is that disappointing? 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.520 It's hard now that I've had more time to think 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.399 on it, but I never had any expectation of it. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.240 You know, I went on with just an open mind 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.760 and like an open art. I was like, this is 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.880 gonna be a fun opportunity, and if I happened to 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.480 find my person on here, cool, like awesome. There was 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.200 no expectation of anything after the fact. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.520 So did you feel like you've found your person though? 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.240 Did you feel like Jen was your person? 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.520 I mean, I think in the moment, yes, you know, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.640 you're kind of shut off from reality. You have you, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.040 and there's one other person to worry about because. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.760 We got kind of sucked into it. At least twist 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:04.200 than I did. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.440 Yeah, we did a Dancing with the. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.880 Star recap every week and we'd see you in the crowd. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.400 We're like, oh my god, it's happening, Like he's there 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.480 supporting and is he gonna fight Sasha? 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:12.919 Who knows? 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.080 Like what's gonna happen? You know. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:15.920 We were like making up our own the next like 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.720 Jake Paul. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.799 Yeah, we were so. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.359 We were so even though we have no beef, I 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:23.760 think it would be hilarious because. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.360 We thought you guys, like we thought that's why you 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.919 were there and you were supporting our as our friend. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.560 Yeah one, And that was the only reason I wanted 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.160 to be there too. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:30.400 You know. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.320 She came to l A and initially on the show, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.160 like one of the things that kind of stuck out 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.920 from us of not working out was distance. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.519 She's like, I would never want to move to l A. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.440 I don't like LA. And I was like, well, I'm 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.240 not going to Miami, like for obvious reasons. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.760 Amo. Yeah, as Little Smith One said, it's Spanish, I 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.600 don't buddy, I speak I speak ESPN. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.240 But then she gets here and she's like, oh my god, 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:57.800 I love La, but she doesn't have anybody, so I 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.480 was like, you know what, I I want to step 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.119 up and just be person. You know, you came off, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.040 you went through a whirl end of and I was like, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.920 I have enough like availability and like my heart to 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.120 like bring somebody else in and care for them, especially 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:11.960 if they don't have anybody. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.360 So I just did my best to be there for 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:15.760 her and her that somebody like does care. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:16.800 That that's very nice. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:17.679 So I like that. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.919 Yeah, Trista loved like. So I wasn't as able because 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.360 I have a couple of little kids. I wasn't as 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.640 able to watch Gen season as I wanted to be. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.520 I thought she was lovely. I thought you were definitely 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.280 a stand up person on the show. I was. I 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.520 was surprised, I will say, I was surprised that you 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.520 weren't the guy in the end. And I think that, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.200 you know, obviously it didn't work out for Gen in 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.800 that regard, so that was kind of a bummer. Has 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:46.280 there been any thought of revisiting that relationship? I mean, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.280 has there ever been you know, I mean it doesn't 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.800 have to be there. Has it been anything during dancing specifically? 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.720 Yeah, not really. You know, it was very platonic friendship. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.440 I didn't want to put any of that pressure on 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.360 her either, and I don't think she was in a 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.200 place for it at all. And we both understood what 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.040 we need to be there for each other for. You know, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.240 I think a lot of people like to. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:09.440 Look for that. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.080 I mean, that's why people watch The Bachelor. They want 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.200 that beauty of a romance. The people who still believe 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.960 in like that romantic love, that deep love. That's what 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.760 they watch because they still believe in it and they 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:19.640 want for that to happen. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:20.400 It didn't work out. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.560 With the first two guys, so they're like, all right, well, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.920 who's the next best option, which, like, once I started 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.760 to think, I was like, that's kind of shitty, Like 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.560 I'm the next best option, which I didn't. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:31.400 Like to think about. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.920 As But like in that scenario, you know, we were 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.480 just platonic friends, and I think we both knew like, hey, 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.200 we're gonna have fun together, Like we're gonna make videos 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.080 together because people love to see it. And that's really it, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.840 Like it wasn't anything more than that. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.080 It brings me to ask, and we have to ask 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:54.200 because of what we do for a living here. Gin 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.520 season I think will go down as history tells it 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.479 as one of the oddest seasons of all time within 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:05.039 Bachelor Nation. Yeah, I think it was exciting. I think 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.960 people got into it. I think it ended in a 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.960 way that fans weren't thrilled about. And then it just 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.720 got weirder, like you know, the Devin blew himself up 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.719 thirty times post then it's wild. So I want to 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.200 hear from you your thoughts now as you look back 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.479 on this experience and being a friend platonic friend with 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.960 Jen yep, how do you make sense of all? Like, like, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.159 what what do you make sense of? I guess in 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.839 the midst of this chaos? 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.240 Well, and I would ask this too, like were you 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.400 and Devin and I'm sorry that I don't know this, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 were you guys friendly? Like would you consider him a friend? 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.280 And then watching how this whole thing unfolded, were you 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.560 like what the actual fing h is going on? Like, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.839 I mean, were you kind of in the same ballpark 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.880 as the rest of us watching or were you kind 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.200 of like I get him? Yeah, you know, I'd like 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.520 to know that part too. Okay, the gen part first, though, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:58.840 because I think that's the most important part. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.520 Yeah, I feel like it's a it's a long winded, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.720 but I know we're working on a time crunch. Bring 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.920 it together a little bit. Wait, what was the gen 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:06.960 part specifically? 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.360 Well, I just think it's how do you make sense 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:09.800 of this whole thing? You just went through it? Mean, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.160 it was your life, this was time is the most 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.479 valuable resource we have on Earth. You spent your time 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.200 on this thing, and now you look back and you go, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.480 what was this all for? Because the whole thing got 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.120 weird real fast and kept getting weird posts, yeah, and 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.359 so like just overall, like what are your thoughts on 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:25.680 it all? 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:26.360 Honestly? 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.599 I mean, for me, I just on the show. After 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.760 the show, I stayed in my own lane, Like I 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.640 didn't get involved in any of the shit, none of 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.560 the drama. And that's just not me. Like I don't 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.400 walk into a room and try to big dick a 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.000 bunch of other guys because I just don't care. Like 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.560 I'm just gonna live my life. I'm gonna do me, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.640 and I'm confident enough in who I am what I 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.720 have to offer them. I'm just like somebody doesn't want that, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.359 Like that's fine, somebody else will appreciate it, and that's cool. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.440 So I never really thought I guess. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.160 Maybe the way some of them did were like I'm 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.000 gonna be the best guy in this Sinnari, I'm gonna 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.960 win her over in this way and that way and whatever. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.760 I was just like, okay, it's a bunch of noise. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.240 Like you guys, do whatever it is that you think 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.280 you need to do to impress this girl. I'm just 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.000 gonna have fun with her and be me every time 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.320 we hang out, and that's gonna be my game plan. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.520 And it worked out fine for me. So trying to 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.280 make sense of it, I didn't really need to make 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.800 sense of it because it did make sense. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:14.800 It didn't affect you, It. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.880 Didn't affect me at all, Like everybody else was on 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:21.720 their own whatever, and I had me at her and 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.640 then there was a bunch of noise trying to disrupt 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.160 what we had, but I just ignored it and it 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.000 was fine. Which is easier said than done. Great, No, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.400 it's much easier said than done. You need to be 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.240 able to compartmentalize, but you know what you sign up 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.000 for when you get into it. Yeah, So when you 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.120 have that like understanding, you kind of just like get see. 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.000 I love that you said that, because I think sometimes 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.680 people don't remember what they signed up for. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:41.000 Yep. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.520 If you go on a show in this girl, this 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.600 gorgeous girl is dating twenty of your new buddies yep, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.720 or thirty or whatever the hellth number is, and it's 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.600 like sometimes people get like so pissed off about that. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:52.680 It's like, dude, what do you think? 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:53.600 What do you think? 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.400 Yeah, like, we all know what we're here for. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.840 Yeah. I would agree with that to a moment, and 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.000 then say, Bob, I don't know if you felt this way. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.480 This is a huge chapter of my life. Jiggity over 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:10.000 here for Jiggity j because of this show and for 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.400 me the show, even though it's not influential as much 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.120 in my life now, it's still probably to this day 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.720 a top three most impactful moment in my life, and 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:20.360 so it's gonna be. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.000 It's gonna be a top four once you have your child. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:23.360 Child. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.920 But even if I wanted to move on and do 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:32.200 my own thing, I necessarily can't because that experience as 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.600 a whole has still defined me and the people on 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.600 that season has still defined me, and people still come 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.240 up to me and say that season that you were 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.680 on I remember for this reason, resonate and That's where 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:47.199 my question was coming from. Was your season historically will 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.520 go down as one of the most not disappointed. I 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.120 don't want to use that word, but maybe maybe just 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:57.160 like sad seasons that I can ever remember in terms 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:02.000 of not only how it ended, but then transpired afterwards. Yeah, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.560 and for you, Yes, this is going to be an 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.960 impactful moment in your life. You are a big part 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.400 of this season. Yeah, Instead does that anger you at all? 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:13.400 I think? 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.040 And this is the best part about playing my own 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:21.120 game during and after the show is that darkness never 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.360 consumed me. I was aware of it, and I saw 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.200 it and I lived in it, but it never like 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.840 took over my image and who I was and what 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.480 I was there to accomplish. And I think people saw 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.559 me as a light album because that was my goal. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.240 Is a good thing to come exactly. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.080 And I made that a very big point with me 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:39.680 and Jen two. I was like, I want to be 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.880 a breath of fresh air every time we hang out. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.120 I don't want to trauma dump on you. I don't 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.319 want to put my issues on you. I want to 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.440 get to know you in a healthy way, in a 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.160 healthy manner. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.079 And that's it. And that was post show too. After 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.080 all the things from Devin, just everything that had happened, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:56.240 I was just. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.720 Like, dude, I just want to be there for you, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.559 and I want to be a positive light approach. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.160 It's like, you know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:07.000 just focus on your personal relationship and you being you. Yeah, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.520 it's actually pretty wid It's a very wise thing because 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.920 you still have to go home. Yeah, you can't be 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.120 this douchebag who just dumps on people and then goes 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.439 home and everyone thinks, oh, no, it's cool, we understand 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.480 you were playing a character on TV. No, it's still 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.120 called reality TV. It's still you. So at the end 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.800 of the day, you're not being fed lions. If you're 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.440 saying these things, there are still you, and you actually 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.360 handle yourself in a way that you guys are still friends. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.360 I think it's a huge compliment to you, is that 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.560 you can still be friends with somebody who had such 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.920 a hard ending and you were a breath of fresh 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.160 air from that season for her in a friendship way. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.800 And that's what Caitlin and I's relationship was when I 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.400 was on the ship on the batch, right, Like we're 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.680 still friends of this day and that's something that's meaningful 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.520 to me. My wife knows that, like Caitlin Bristow's friendship 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.880 with me is meaningful to me. It means wait in 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.240 my life because if anything else in that season, at 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:08.720 least she can look back and say I made a 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.800 friend through it. Yeah, my god, thirty dudes, I've made 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.280 one friend. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.040 I'm gonna be sitting in that exact same. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.200 Day there. I mean, we are still friends. You know. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.160 They even put me in a situation where I had 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.360 to host their bachelor and Bachelrette party and it was 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.079 they were it was all these producers sweeping in and 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.480 I'm like, I remember the look on my face looking 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:29.960 just like I'm sorry. I don't even know why I'm 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.240 asking this series of questions I'm supposed to answer. It's 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.920 like crazy, But it's like we're still friends to this day. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.840 So you can walk away with that, you know, you 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:37.480 can still have. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.320 And I think years from now that will be really meaningful. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.079 Now we have a short amount of time with you, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.839 I think one really think unique thing that we want 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.280 to tap into with you is if we looked at 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:55.960 past seasons, Bachelor in Paradise would have always been something 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.880 that people like you would have not only gone on, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.400 but fans would have flocked to cheering you on too. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.959 We know that Bathe Room Paris is coming back at 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.440 some in some way, in some way we don't know 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.280 yet in what way that is? Uh, would you say 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.559 yes to it? Would be my first question. This is 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:20.559 a two parter, and does it excite you to say 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.240 yes to it or no to it? 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.840 Well? And I love that. And also because you have 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.200 watched other seasons, right, so you would know that there 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.000 could be potentially be some people that maybe you would 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:32.600 have interest in. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.200 Yep, Is that is that? 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:34.880 Do you have? 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.760 I got a quick answer for both. Awesome, love it one. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.559 I've already been asked and I said yes. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:40.240 Excellent. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.800 On the mental law, okay, when we went over like 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.960 my journey at the very end, Jesse told me onstage 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.120 and he's like, well, it's good to hear. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.280 Blah blah blah. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.959 There's this beach and everybody in my mind I was like, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.240 I already did this. I want to say no, like beforehand, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.800 I didn't know it was coming. And then everybody's like cheering. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.240 I'm like, well shit, I gotta go now, so I go. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.640 Yes. What scares me is I do. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.520 Hear a lot of people saying people either go there 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.880 to destroy their image or make up for it. And 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:14.320 I'm like, I believe enough of myself and the decisions 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.360 I make that I don't think my image is going 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.160 to be destroyed when I go. You know, I'm going 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:20.680 to go in with the right intention in the right heart, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:21.680 and hopefully it comes. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.000 To go there and destroy their image or the people 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.360 that are the image, right, the people that go there, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.440 like honestly, like, why would you go there? And if 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:29.840 you're if you're the nice guy. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.080 Well, because you're not gonna go there, because he could 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.880 go to the beach and all of a sudden, four 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:41.520 women are all like jig oh, jiggity, yeah. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.280 They better not call me jig, Like, what's up, jigs? 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.640 I mean, I'm sure it would be great for the Instagram, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.600 but like, but if. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.040 They say johnthan I am so into you, and all 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.920 of a sudden, this poor guy is sitting in a 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.000 place where he can't win. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.080 Oh, so you guys are saying, actually, they don't go 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.880 on there with the intention to destroy, they just have 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.559 they go on there and it does destroy exactly. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.560 Because there's four and like you feel, let's I feel 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.880 like I'm very empathetic. I feel bad so like I 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.880 try to like give them all a chance, and one 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.280 of them would end up having a certain way to 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.560 feel about me giving the other girls a chance, and 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.240 that's the clippable ship they want. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.200 When you you. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.760 You had said something from your season when you said 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.440 you went on with a plan. So I think that 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.800 in of itself is like I didn't have any plan 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.120 I went on. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna come on 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.760 this show and I'm gonna have some cocktails, I'm gonna 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.040 eat some uh, you know, appetizers, and I'm gonna you 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.960 maybe get a flower. I'm gonna make out of summing. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.040 You went on with a plan, right, so you're already 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.680 one step ahead of the game. And I think all 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.360 the people come on the show now are one step 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.280 ahead of the game. They realized they need to have 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.400 some type of plan. So the fact that you would 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.640 actually have a plan going on to a bachelum paradise. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.440 Type of situation, I think in what what he would 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.080 be saying to is his plan is to be himself, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.880 which has worked out so far, and so if your 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.480 plan is to be yourself and going back to Bob's question. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.400 I'm not letting you get out of that chair unless 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:16.720 you give us as you know that you'd be interested 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.520 in meeting on the beach. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.000 You know you're gonna you're gonna hate for me. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.760 Is I have and that actually you're gonna love this? Well, 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.920 you're gonna love this in particular, you're talking about having 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.720 a plan. Yes, since the moment I was asked, my 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.160 plan has to give no ammunition to anybody in the 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.920 sense of if I say something now that can that 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.920 will live on forever. If I go, hey, I'm excited 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.080 to see A or B. Right, well, now A or 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.360 B has this in mind that they're going to get 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.680 to see me, he's excited to see me, and they 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.600 could use that again, use it for me. And I 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.680 want to go in open minded, open hearted, and have 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.840 somebody excited to see me. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.040 I would love that. That's awesome. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.000 I want to meet you, But I don't want to 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.200 be caught in a position where I said something beforehand 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.560 and now I'm to that thing when I have not 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.280 met somebody saying. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.200 You haven't been to stage coach in the last eight months. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.040 Stage coach is the great on doing all Bachelor paradise 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:10.640 going to stage. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:11.920 We've had many an interview. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.360 I have a hard rule in this in this au festivals, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.680 no body from bachelination at all, No women, No keep 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:22.960 doing DM them, none of them. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.800 That's gonna get that weird love trying to out be honest. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.080 I think that's gonna fail. Miserable you think so, Oh 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.960 my gosh, it's anybody? 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.520 Was that anybody? 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.080 I'm sorry, I didn't mean the d m ing part. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.880 I just meant, like you, you're saying that you're not 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.440 gonna cross paths when anyone. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.320 I'm going to hook up with anybody from I'm going 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.960 to cause zero. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.360 It's a different world today than when we existed. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:53.040 Wow, you have to understand you non doing it. There's 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.640 no solid proof that anything happened. If there's test or 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.320 d MS or whatever, this is. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.760 A photographic evidence, then you're good with it. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:08.000 Which happens, which thank you. There's no moments you get 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.160