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Speaker 1: culture Resta's calling. Now here's the thing. We didn't tell

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Speaker 1: They don't know this is happening. This is a Wednesday drop.

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Speaker 2: This is a moment of wish fulfillment that I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've ever experienced before. For you, my friend, I

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning, my eyes open, and I

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you want to meet destiny where it's at Does

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Speaker 1: And you if you wanted to wear a ball down,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's in the rules of culture today,

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Speaker 1: Bow and Yang.

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 1: One of the world's greatest singers. I can't even look

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about this when we bring her on.

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Speaker 2: media player culture oh one hundred. We were downloaded. We

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Speaker 2: We were getting everybody's every contestants, Windows Media Player performances,

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Speaker 1: Remember the family computer. It's a real culture number nine,

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Speaker 1: Remember the family computer. Can I say one thing this

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to this iconic voice say hoo to us. Please.

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, I didn't even think about the title of

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Speaker 4: Views, yeah, I was like, I, first of all, how

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, it was like wait were

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Speaker 4: I think it's a beautiful thing to see hope.

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00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 3: And also where's the line of like have I tried enough?

439
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm exhausted, but like is this worth it? There's

440
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 3: just a it's a line that you know already has

441
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: to make for themselves.

442
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 1: Right is it worth it? When it's going to kick

443
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: my ass? People paid to comment.

444
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 4: People love that song and they relate to it, and

445
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 4: it's something special.

446
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,879
Speaker 3: So here's where I landed, which is because I went

447
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 3: from hardcore pass too.

448
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 4: You know what for a moment in my life.

449
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: You know, I was pregnant with my first child, and

450
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 3: and and one we're in a different place, is very different.

451
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: So I'm going to respect that chapter and I'm going

452
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: to respect what happened there and what I was feeling

453
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: there is not lost that I did feel that and

454
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: that was real.

455
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 4: At one point. So that's how I compartmentalized and figure out.

456
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: What I'm comfortable with. So like, we'll still do it, yeah,

457
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 3: but it's more so for like not only fans, but

458
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: for that girl that did believe wholeheartedly that that's what

459
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: was happening and that's what I saw, you know, so

460
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 3: and and I know that that's incredibly sad to think about, but.

461
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: You know, also it's real. It's like retroactively hopeful. It's

462
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: like it's really compassionate towards that person that you were

463
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: when that song was being Yeah, you don't want to diminish.

464
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: That's the thing too, And it's like a breakup album

465
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: or whatever. It's like, I don't want to diminish it

466
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: down to just like the bad I mean, Red Flag

467
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: Lector is real, but it is. I'm saying it its

468
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: already out so but also favorite kind of high is

469
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: I love?

470
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: So it's magic, you know. So it's all real, it's

471
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: just different stages.

472
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: This is a question I've been thinking about with Chemistry specifically,

473
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: is that it seems like you've reached such a peace

474
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: and day resolution with like releasing the music. I mean

475
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: like we're talking to you, like on the day of

476
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: the release of the album. I've been watching and listening

477
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: to your interviews where you you seem like, oh yeah,

478
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: like we've had these songs written for a few years now,

479
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: and I cannot but think, like, well, doesn't that like

480
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: prolong the experience. Doesn't that extend like I try and

481
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't.

482
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: So that's why I almost didn't release it because I

483
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want to live in that dumpster

484
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: fire anymore than I have to, you know what I'm saying, like,

485
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 3: and I've done a lot of work to get out

486
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: of it. So that is actually one of the reasons

487
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 3: why I almost didn't. Okay, But it came down to,

488
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 3: I think you don't believe it when people talking. I

489
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: don't know where you're at with what you were just

490
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: talking about relationship. I am even even we're actually stuff

491
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: down my feelings for a minute.

492
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: God, Hey, look, I'm going to be very honest right now.

493
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: And I have not owned this.

494
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: I want to bound No here's I don't really generally

495
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: have them, unless that us do with my children. But no,

496
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 3: I have never I've been so against it, just because

497
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: the things I saw in my childhood, so against like

498
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: any kind of form medication making you feel I'm like, no,

499
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: there's got to be a better way of like talking

500
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: to someone figuring this out healthy.

501
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to numb myself. I don't want to

502
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: like whatever.

503
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 3: And then there came a point when it was I

504
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: think it was literally the last two months, like it

505
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: was right before I ended one of the seasons.

506
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember.

507
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: It wasn't this past was the one before whenever my

508
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: divorce was happening whatever, I feel like it lasted forever.

509
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: But I literally I was like, I looked at my

510
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: therapist and I was like, just couldn't stop sobbing and

511
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: and I was like, I actually had to cancel something

512
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: the other it because I couldn't stop crying.

513
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't stop crying. I just yeah, I was like

514
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 4: I can't, I cannot do this.

515
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: And it was one of those things where I really

516
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: had to put my bride aside in like all my

517
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: childhood issues of whatever.

518
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: And that's why I laughed so hard.

519
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: I was on Lgsporre for like I think two months

520
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: because I was like, look, I don't want to be

521
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: on it forever. I don't want to be that person

522
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: I want to be. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

523
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: I just have issues with it because of my own

524
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: things from childhood. But so my thing was I just

525
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: I can't smile anymore from America right now, Like I'm

526
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: not happy and I need help. And it was one

527
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: of the best lessons because she kept trying to convince me.

528
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: She's like, girl, you're doing a lot and having to

529
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: balance a lot and trying to put my best fit

530
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 3: forward in front of my kids, Like I was like,

531
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: I can't do it, and so for like a couple

532
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: months of my life, and it was, honest to God,

533
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: the greatest decision ever.

534
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have made it.

535
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: And then by the time you wean off of it,

536
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, like I handled what I couldn't handle

537
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: then and now I have time and space and I

538
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: took like the whole summer off and I was like,

539
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: I need to take time to actually yeah.

540
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: And then when you can make a decision like that,

541
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: you judge yourself less. You're less anxious about the ramification exactly.

542
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: You did something take care of yourself, which is always

543
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: a good thing people I know, and.

544
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: It just was always yeah, just because there's some things

545
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: that happened whenever I was younger.

546
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: It's a thing for me.

547
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: But it was a really good lesson and like you

548
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: need to put your ego aside and like everything aside

549
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: and like handle someone's trying to help you listen.

550
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: Especially as a creative person. I think a lot of

551
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: people that I've talked to are like hesitant to do

552
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: something that's going to you know you or make you

553
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: less creative. I'll be real the fact that now I

554
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: can wake up and not want to like stay in

555
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: bed all day because I have this Now I'm more creative,

556
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: Like I've had breakthroughs in the past couple of weeks,

557
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: like it's been yeah, and then I realized, like, wow,

558
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe I was feeling like this for quite a while. Really,

559
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: even any situation that I went through, and then you're like, huh,

560
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm back in a way, and

561
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like, yeah, I'm less of myself.

562
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: Mine wasn't less of myself, for creatively speaking. Mine was

563
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: just because if you see something when you're a kid

564
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: and you someone's on something where maybe it was the

565
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: wrong medication, maybe it was whatever, but like it was

566
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: literally like the Walking Dead, Like I would watch people

567
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: in my life and I was like, you are void

568
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: and vacant of any emotion, like right now. That was

569
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: a bad experience I saw which affected me, but I

570
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: think it was one of the greatest things.

571
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: That's why I laughed so hard.

572
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: I was like, you know it. I say that because

573
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: like I just wish sometimes And this is why I

574
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: think people like again anticipate hearing from you through your

575
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: music about the situation not the type of thing where

576
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: it's just like, ooh, what was it? What happened? Because

577
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: those aren't real fans, but people that you trust in

578
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: a way or look up to in a way because

579
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: you have that connection with them. Like the honesty helps. Yeah,

580
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I feel, like, like with your

581
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: Glennon interview, like when you talk to Angie Martinez, you

582
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: know what.

583
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I'm incapable of not being honest. Yeah,

584
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: So I think my thing though, the trick is that

585
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: I have to wait till I'm ready. So like even

586
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: with the label, I was like, I can't promote this, Yeah,

587
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: like You're gonna have to wait, Like I can't, Like

588
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: I'll break down and go through and won't get through

589
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: it and there will be no point. So and I'm

590
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 3: already kind of known as a crier, so like I mean, yeah,

591
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Like I don't even know if it's.

592
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: A tourist thing, but maybe it is.

593
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: What's this thing where you're surrounded by scorpios as a

594
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: scorpion surrounded.

595
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: By scorpio scorpios gyminnized. I don't have attracted to y'all.

596
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, that's I don't know if I've ever dated

597
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: a Oh yeah, I've dated a scorpio.

598
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: Interested how that go?

599
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: No, not bad, not bad, It just just better as friends.

600
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: Sure.

601
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean this is so refreshing that because people you

602
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: t help someone you're a Scorpio or a Gemini and

603
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: they like clutch their damn pearls are like what get

604
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: away from me?

605
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like and apparently I'm like magnet.

606
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's friends if you understand that,

607
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: Like the boundary is oh better as friends. I mean

608
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: there is compatibility in that way where it's like some

609
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: signs are more compatible for a friendship in somewhere more

610
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: compatible for a romance?

611
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: Are you an inter astrology?

612
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: Like everything? Like I think anything's exciting.

613
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, I literally had someone come on the

614
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: show and they somebody had give me tarot cards and

615
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: I was like, so my mother told me that my

616
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: grandmother was like into it, I guess whenever.

617
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: And I was like really, And I never knew anyone

618
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: in my family and I was like, oh, that's kind

619
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: of cool.

620
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: And I just kind of for fun, like it's like

621
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: reading your horoscope for me, Like I'm just like I

622
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: do the car we do it for fun in our camp.

623
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: So I don't.

624
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: I don't like base my life decisions off it by

625
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: any means, but I do find it interesting.

626
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: I think it's just fun.

627
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's always like a little fun

628
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: lesson to be learned, Like even from a terror reading.

629
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: It's it's like take what you want from yes.

630
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: But sometimes I feel like, I don't know if you

631
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: grew up in church and I grew up Southern Baptist,

632
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: and it's like if you hadn't been in a while

633
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: or something, you show up and you're like.

634
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: Oh are they speaking to me? Like you're like the

635
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: message was right for you.

636
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: So it's like when you read those cards sometimes it's

637
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: like you take it in and you're like apply it

638
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: to your life.

639
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: You're like this was meant for me to say, and

640
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: you like go off with it.

641
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: Anyway. I think it's fun. I'm not like hardcore.

642
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah right yeah. Wait, speaking of dating, I feel like

643
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question that gets sort

644
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: of lost in the conversation we go, because here's the deal.

645
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: If you had said twenty years ago to America that

646
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: you and Justin Guarini had dated during from Justin to Kelly,

647
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: we did it dated, No, but we dated after you

648
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: did it, after Kelly.

649
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: It's like I feeling it was months, but it was

650
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: just like honestly, we could probably both say this.

651
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: We just were around each other all the.

652
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 3: Time because just like we're here, You're here, I'm here,

653
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: and we experienced something very intense, you know. And it

654
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: wasn't like I won and I was the only one

655
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: on the promo like Justin and I went around everywhere,

656
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: just went to tour, yeah, and then made the horrible film.

657
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: And because I was contractually is no justice, there's nothing,

658
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: You're getting nothing from me.

659
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's fun.

660
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: Here's why. It's just because when you don't, when your

661
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: goal has never been to be an actor, and it

662
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: was literally ball to try and get out of it.

663
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: It was the most horror I remember hearing say like

664
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: when you won, is this true? Like when you won

665
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: the show? And like there's the moment of my immediate thought,

666
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: are you serious?

667
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: My immediate thoughts because we had just talked about it

668
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: just to night before we went out there.

669
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: Because he didn't really mind.

670
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: He loves acting, he loves like he's really good exactly

671
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: like this is like his thing is forte.

672
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is not mine.

673
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: Because if you didn't win, you didn't have to do it.

674
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: It was only so he do it, yes, And so

675
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: I was like he wanted like yeah, but because he's

676
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: into that stuff.

677
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: I thought he did because you had like a partner

678
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: and all that.

679
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: You know, it was fine. But so we did like

680
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: from it wasn't long enough.

681
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: It was like a thing we dated. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

682
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: so that would have I can't believe you guys were able.

683
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: This is how you know, it was a different time

684
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: that was able to think we're just kids and.

685
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: Tell people generally like we're not those like. It wasn't

686
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: like we were like, oh, don't tell people. I don't

687
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: think we ever. I don't remember ever having that conversation.

688
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Right, So was he being a little dramatic a few

689
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: years ago when he went out on stage and was like,

690
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: this song it's for Kelly. You know, we'll always remember

691
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: that time he went out on stage. What song he sang?

692
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: A song like a few years ago? This is like

693
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: but I remember like he got out on stage and

694
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: I think maybe he was embellishing a little bit, but

695
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, yeah, it's true. I did have

696
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: a relationship with Kelly, and this is for her, it's

697
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be something I remember, you know what I mean.

698
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe he was like kind of giving the

699
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: impression yeah.

700
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: Lauren, No, well yeah, I will tell you this completely

701
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: being honest at the time when we I mean, I'm

702
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: a better writer now, but like at the time when.

703
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: We were still in that show, the stuff he was

704
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: writing was incredible.

705
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I'm talking.

706
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: Like Maxwell, like he so talented.

707
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: But here's the thing is like sometimes and maybe he

708
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: felt like he didn't have the leverage because he didn't win.

709
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what the reasoning was.

710
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: We never really had this conversation, but his stuff that

711
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: he was working on was far superior to what the

712
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: label had him recorded for his album. Like he was

713
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: a far better musician and writer than he got to

714
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: show on that first.

715
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: Album of his.

716
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: It does suck because I do remember being angry about it,

717
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: like just personally, because I was like, yeah, I was like,

718
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: you're incredible, Like, you know, he was far more advanced,

719
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: like I'm a better writer now, but like I was

720
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: not that good like back then as a writer, and

721
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: so it was kind of a lesson for me too,

722
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: like and I think kind of helped me stand up

723
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: for myself because I was like, wait, I don't want

724
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: I saw what he was capable of, and you did

725
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: not let him do what he should have been doing.

726
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: It sucks. Yeah, I remember thinking of this.

727
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: What would have happened differently, you know what I'm saying,

728
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: likely because it wasn't I mean really cool music, like

729
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: really good.

730
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean I just remember at the time thinking like, oh,

731
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: all these people are going to be superstars, even like

732
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: everybody did anything, and I remember they sat on that

733
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: Tamayra album for such a long time. Tomorrow Ray was

734
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: such a such.

735
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: Amazing on Broadway.

736
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: Silence.

737
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: I saw in Rent.

738
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know what did I also see

739
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: her in Rent? We saw it together, crush.

740
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: She's incredible.

741
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: She's incredible, and.

742
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: Then like I remember a shocked she was like fourth

743
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: or whatever she was.

744
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I know, fourth, and then upset even Nikki god Rest

745
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: like she at the time like had her own thing.

746
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Like I remember thinking there was no even Nikki was floored.

747
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: We all were like what you mean, like for coming

748
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: in third?

749
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: But no, no, I just know, I just mean, like

750
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: all of us on the set, like the top five,

751
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: we were like wait what, like yeah, did she just

752
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: get kicked off the show, Like you.

753
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Think there was some bullshit there. Do you think that

754
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: they were actually going by the Here's what I think.

755
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: I think this is what happened with Tamyra. I have

756
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: no actual idea.

757
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: This is just me even like being a coach on

758
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: the voice and seeing how things play out with viewers

759
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: and trinetre yes conjecture. But I feel like people thought

760
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: she was such a shoe, and like we thought she

761
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: was going to win, Like a lot of us thought

762
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: she was going to win. I didn't even think I

763
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: would at all. So, like I we were one of

764
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: those I think we were in the thing where everybody thought, oh,

765
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: she's getting voted for that. Nobody was voting because they

766
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: thought she was a shoe. And I think that people

767
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: assumed and they didn't really understand the power of sitting

768
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: on that phone.

769
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Sure, I think that's what I voted for you two

770
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty times every single night.

771
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: Oh it's my favorite.

772
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Uh, that was a moment in culture when you sang

773
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. There were you watching at the time

774
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: the season one. I remember I was sitting there with

775
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: my grandmother and you were last that night on Big

776
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Bed Night, which was so exciting, and I think is

777
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: another reason why I think of you and like American

778
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: idol as the culture that made me say culture was

779
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: for me, which we'll ask you because you engaged, because

780
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: it made me realize there was so much music that

781
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: life was out there. I mean like when you were

782
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: saying Aretha, like then I got into Aretha and I

783
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: went into school and I had a teacher that would

784
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: play us Aretha Franklin, and I knew the songs because

785
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: you had sang them and stuff like that. But when

786
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: you sang stuff like that there, my grandmother was like,

787
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, she should win, she is the most talented.

788
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I think she is gonna win. But

789
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna win after your life.

790
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: That was I'll tell you that was my prayer was.

791
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I just wanted to make it to

792
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: big band night. I had like seen for the Boys

793
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: with be Midler. I saw that when I was younger,

794
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: and I was obsessed with that. All the music from

795
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: that and even we had to flip, so songs are

796
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 3: not easy to clear back then. That's why we sang

797
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: a lot of Motown because that was a lot of

798
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: the songs that was like that would available, which I

799
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: happened to love motown, so it was no problem for me,

800
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: but it would be hard for other artists that didn't

801
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: want to per.

802
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: Se sing that.

803
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: So it was hard to get songs cleared. So we

804
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: often like were flipping for songs. If two people wanted

805
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: the same thing and.

806
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 4: I knew that not one of those board I should

807
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: and say right now, and not one of those people

808
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: knew what that song went. I was like, I literally asked,

809
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: just openly.

810
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: I remember going, anybody ever heard of for the Boys

811
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: the musical and neverready had it?

812
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: And I was like, cool that I'm not flipping for

813
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: my song, and I all can fuck up. I was like,

814
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to fight me on this song.

815
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: You don't know it. That's not fair. I was like,

816
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: So it was like I didn't have to like flip

817
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: for that one.

818
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: So I was very excited. And so just the way

819
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: you performed it, And there's these like little tinybe rumors

820
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: coming out about you regarding Broadway. So now you're in

821
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: New York, you're gonna be up in the thirty rock

822
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: fuilding with one. So this is a real thing you

823
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: might want to like.

824
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: It's a real thing.

825
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: I definitely have been working on something for like a

826
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: year and a half already that I could be involved

827
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: with or don't have to be, depending on schedule, but.

828
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: I am taking the year that what a great one

829
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: with Max's thing. Yeah, No, it's not that.

830
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: It's something like I've been doing on my own, like

831
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: that is not out yet and I'm not opposed to

832
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: like any other ideas or doing other I'm not.

833
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 4: I just am interested because I grew up in musical theater.

834
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: So my goal is this first year at least to

835
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 3: get my family, like established, my kids happy in school.

836
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: So I'm not doing anything right off that because literally

837
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: I said it in one interview and then it went

838
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: like everywhere everyone want people were blowing up my agents and.

839
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 4: They were like, well, we went on the phone.

840
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, tell them I'm so interested,

841
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: Like not right at this moment because I just have

842
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: other things to take care of it first.

843
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's one of the reasons why I loved

844
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: moving here.

845
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: How are you doing New York?

846
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: They well, so they haven't.

847
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Actually we ended in LA with school and we spend

848
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: summers at my ranch in Montana, so he was through.

849
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what it was like,

850
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: it was right Montana was so anyway, So they haven't

851
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: They've been here off and on for like vacations or whatever,

852
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: but they haven't actually lived here, gone to school here,

853
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: done that.

854
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: So that's happening right when they start school. So my

855
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: son is very excited.

856
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: My daughter I'm still winning over.

857
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: Not York. It's the fact that she just has friends.

858
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Now.

859
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: My son is like, my friends will be fine, let's go.

860
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: He loves New York and literally, I don't know why

861
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: we've been here often, but like it just was crazy

862
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: to me. He was like I think like six years

863
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: old when he said, like just turned six and we

864
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: were here for promo thing and crossing the bridge to

865
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: come in. And I was like, buddy, I mean, why

866
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: do you like it here so much? Like why do

867
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: you like New York? Why are you so excited that

868
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: you're here? And he was like, it's freedom. And literally

869
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: I felt bad because I was like, do.

870
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: You not feel free like where you are happening?

871
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: Like no in l A in La, So it's not it's.

872
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: Not for remy.

873
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: Remy was like, this is New York too.

874
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: He is very excited. He loves the walking around. He

875
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: loves the kind of chaotic energy.

876
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: He loves that.

877
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can tell River Rose that.

878
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: Like, I think moving around a lot as a kid,

879
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: as someone who of that experience.

880
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: Too, I think highly adaptable exactly.

881
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: I think it kind of teaches you to be that

882
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of malleable person, and like you get to like

883
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: meet different people.

884
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just pivot.

885
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we've had conversations and I've had a

886
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: similar background to her. So, but it's you can't take away.

887
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: You can't say, oh, it's gonna be fine. I'm like,

888
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: I can't promise you it's gonna be fine, baby, Like

889
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: it might not be. It might be hard for Like,

890
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: I get that too. I was like, so, I'm not

891
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: gonna lie to you. I was like, but can't poo

892
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: poo on it until we try it right again.

893
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: It's happening like I'm a mom, can't poop poo on it?

894
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: Like it's like, yeah, you talk to your children.

895
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean wait, so would you ever so now

896
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: that you are going to be up in the thirty

897
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: up building, would you never host? You should know?

898
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: No, Oh my god, that's not funny enough or cool

899
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: enough to.

900
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: True.

901
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: I really do know it's true.

902
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: You hosted. Have you seen some of the episodes.

903
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: Well, if that's the bar, we're going, okay, yeah, he.

904
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: Would be great.

905
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

906
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, see you're being a little about it.

907
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: But I think it because it's a very different are

908
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: I do like live energy, but like y'all are incredibly

909
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: gifted because I have done skits or something like I've

910
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: gone on there and saying, like, done some skits, and

911
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I enjoy the popping in and out.

912
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's a big thing.

913
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: It's a big thing. But I think you would enjoy

914
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: just like the seed of your pants ness of it all.

915
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: Oh, I do like that part.

916
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: You have so much live.

917
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't.

918
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: I don't mind live. I just mean, like how y'all

919
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: are with the que car and the changes. I'm there

920
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: all day as an artist. You're there all day like

921
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: rehearsing before you see all the skits, you see the

922
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: ones that get cut, like you see it's just ever changing,

923
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: and it's like it's a little bit of a mind

924
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: fox a little bit.

925
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: But I think, like, I think you are perfectly situated skilled,

926
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: like positioned for it, like I think you're literally downstairs.

927
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: This is like how this is, by the way, how

928
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: they got me to do the talk show? Was like,

929
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

930
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: It's not that funny.

931
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

932
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: One of my favorites on was Timberlake. I thought, yeah,

933
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: he was one of my Oh my god and paid

934
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: through God.

935
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: Don't even.

936
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: A little part with.

937
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: His idea, which is brilliant. He's funny, so funny.

938
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: He's my type of guy. I like funny and will

939
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: hot as hell. Yes, yeah, there's no limit here, no, absolutely, Please.

940
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: We have to ask you the question, which is what

941
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you? Say culture it was

942
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: for you? If you could look back in time at

943
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: young Kelly, what made you the person you are, Like,

944
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: whether that's like a movie, a musical artist, something that

945
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: stands out that now you can trace back and be

946
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: like that was the beginning of me. It's a big question.

947
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

948
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: But the question is this, like the moment where you

949
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 4: feel like you found your thing? Is that kind of it? Okay?

950
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: So okay, I felt like I could.

951
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

952
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: It was like that was the chair, by the way

953
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: I talk about.

954
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: No, I don't know I'm thinking of two moments, like

955
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: one one whenever I was younger and the first time

956
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: I saw this is so basic, but like it was

957
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: when I first saw sound of Music.

958
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god, no, I know, I'm sorry. I love

959
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 4: it so much.

960
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: It's like one of my favorite things. And by the way,

961
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: when my kids loved it, I felt like a successful. Yes,

962
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: but I think that was one of the moments that

963
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: I've felt like just entertainment and just that world of pretend,

964
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: in that world like musically, I thought it was magical

965
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: and like the relationship with.

966
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: The Von Traffic, I just thought it was like very cool.

967
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: But like for me personally, like a moment I experienced

968
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: was honestly, I sang at this thing in like junior

969
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 3: high and everyone was singing like I didn't feel.

970
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: Like special at this point, Like you know what I'm saying.

971
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: I didn't feel everybody had their moment to shine during

972
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: this performance thing that we were doing at school.

973
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: And I got up there and it just was like

974
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 4: amazing all my friends.

975
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: Just to be on stage in the same energy with

976
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: all my friends, just like loving to sing, picking songs,

977
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: the art of all of it, like figuring it out.

978
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: Who was the sequence of the show like all of that. Yeah,

979
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: it was just it was very fun to me and

980
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: I got up there. I remember its vision of love.

981
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: I sing visions carry because why not? And I love

982
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: that gus. I appreciate that. Guess.

983
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm a Lamb. I'm like a diet

984
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: in the world Lamb. The Butterfly album.

985
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: Every with do I know in my soul?

986
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: People ask me why I don't cover her, and I'm

987
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: like one Sometimes it's hard to clear songs to you

988
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: don't want to because it's like, why am I going

989
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: near that? But the main reason is it's I'm almost

990
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: incapable of not mimicking God. Like you know what I'm saying.

991
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: I grew up on it so much.

992
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 3: Like it's like if I seek like Sheer Whitney Sinner like,

993
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: it's hard to deter from the route I know.

994
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: It taught me. Yeah, this is the mariahs time. I

995
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: want to hear you do my all? Oh my god?

996
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Adding if you.

997
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: Like not, ok, oh my gosh, Hello, she is that

998
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 4: sultry sexy? It's all.

999
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: First of all, you chose my all, Yes I did.

1000
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: That's a real fan.

1001
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: What do you think that I'm I'm staying and to

1002
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: come out here with emotions like I'm basic. That's a

1003
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: real First of all, it gets a lot thicker and

1004
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: deeper than that. He's gonna be like the roof.

1005
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 4: Looking at it like I love. I'm just saying.

1006
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: I brought friends over to my and put on like

1007
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: my record player, I'll play like the Butterfly. I got

1008
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: really into like Vinyl during the pandemic. That was the thing. Yeah,

1009
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: And then I played the Roof for some of my

1010
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: friends that like didn't get it.

1011
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: I was just like, I can't be.

1012
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: From you guys.

1013
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: Anymore. Yeah, I have COVID, No mine was.

1014
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's an incredible thing too, like

1015
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: this span of her career and the span of success,

1016
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: like even her new albums You.

1017
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: Still Did Caution is excellent.

1018
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: I look Eagles Square like that whole, like the effects

1019
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: that song came out and I was like, Wow, she

1020
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 3: had something to say.

1021
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: People did talk about.

1022
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 4: She's so great?

1023
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: Are you and't haveing right now? These are your two

1024
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: favorite artists and you're talking to that.

1025
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could talk forever.

1026
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: And I'm such a huge fan of being her street

1027
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: team as far as her being one of the best

1028
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: writers ever talk about the songbird and I'm like, great, yeah,

1029
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: vocals for days obviously, but guys, name another artist you

1030
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: can't that's that successful that wrote it all all arranges it,

1031
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: arranges it writes it a lot of our faceavorite artists,

1032
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: Like you know, I write a lot, but I don't

1033
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: write all of it. Nothing wrong with that, not even

1034
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: bashing myself for others, but no, shade, it's just what

1035
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: an amazing moment.

1036
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the thing is.

1037
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: And they have the number one Christmas song for like

1038
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: all time it.

1039
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Shut up But underneath the tree, thank you.

1040
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: The year it came out, we did a whole sketch

1041
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: show called Popular and it was every transition song.

1042
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: Was underneath the tree. It was underneath the tree. Well,

1043
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: thank you. Excellent it was.

1044
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: I was trying my best to like give it.

1045
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: Because it was actually more of a tie into that

1046
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: wall of yeah.

1047
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. Yeah, yeah, Baby please come Home. I couldn't

1048
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: think of it. Wow, for a billion dollars.

1049
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: For a billion, you know, Pitchfork ranked Baby Please Come

1050
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: Home right below Olive one for Christmas?

1051
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Is you for like you know, the top recent podcast.

1052
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: That's the thing is. It's like It's not just that song,

1053
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: it's that whole Christmas album that's like.

1054
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: I know, can we talk about I believe it's track

1055
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: number five.

1056
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, it's

1057
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 3: my favorite cold Oh.

1058
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: My god, oh my god, oh my god, my god.

1059
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: Can we get trag number Five's.

1060
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: My god, it's five or six? I don't even want

1061
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: you tell me I'm gonna get it.

1062
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I feel like a letdown. I'm not a

1063
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 4: lamb right now. I'm a loser.

1064
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: While did you listen to her come.

1065
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: No without you Christmas?

1066
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: Or I haven't?

1067
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, wait, Oh my god. It's like

1068
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: my favorite.

1069
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: Ismas time, Miss you Most is the best look I love.

1070
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: All I want for Christmas is you, but miss you most.

1071
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: At Christmas time?

1072
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: Yes? How dare she?

1073
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: How dare she?

1074
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: I have cried so many tears to that song miss

1075
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: You Most?

1076
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 3: And I will say that song kind of hard candy

1077
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: Christmas and like the carpenters are the reason why Merry

1078
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: Christmas to the one I used to know which Christmas

1079
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 3: but that's the origin story of that is like my life,

1080
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: but also so like they opened up this whole world

1081
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: of like Christmas possibility with like new music like that

1082
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: you know hadn't been done.

1083
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: It can be a Christmas song about something that is.

1084
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: But I like all I went for Christmas dude, but

1085
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 4: it's great. But miss You Most is my jam.

1086
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: I couldn't freakin think of the name because I haven't

1087
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: had enough caffeine.

1088
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: But were there with you.

1089
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going to cover that when this season. Yes,

1090
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: if I can clear it right clearing loves Most, maybe

1091
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: she'll sing it with me.

1092
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Christmas queen her?

1093
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 4: Several times, I've met her a few times. She's so

1094
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: so oh my god.

1095
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: So the last time we ran into each other, I

1096
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: didn't even realize what I was doing because she's very

1097
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: warm and welcoming, so I don't get like super nervous.

1098
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 4: I did. The very first time we met, I said,

1099
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: some stupid ship. But she's just very cool and like

1100
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: very kind and like I thought.

1101
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: She took so much time and actually watched the videos

1102
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: for all the voice artists, and I thought, oh, cool,

1103
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: your stand up, Like not everybody that comes here does

1104
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: or gives a ship promote. Yeah, I'm like that was

1105
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: really cool because I've been these people, so it meant

1106
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: a lot to me, so anyway, but she is very cool.

1107
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: But she the last thing we were talking because I

1108
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: was saying something about like something of her, I was,

1109
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: you know, bragging on her, and She's like, we should

1110
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: write together and I was like, oh, I don't want to,

1111
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: and I okay, exactly exactly, but she said it, and

1112
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: I this is honestly like, I don't write in the

1113
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 3: same room with people. I have really done that twice

1114
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: in my life because I'm just not a vulnerable writer

1115
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: and so just sometimes I'm just you.

1116
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Like to bring stuff that you have done to someone.

1117
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like even this whole record, Like if I'm

1118
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: like any song you see me on, I've pretty much

1119
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: written the lyrics and melodies just on my own alone.

1120
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 4: Like it's just so.

1121
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, I start telling Mariah about my process and

1122
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm like did I just And then I walked away

1123
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: in there, like do you realize you just kind.

1124
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: Of said no to like writing? And I was like,

1125
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: wait what And I was like, I didn't say no.

1126
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: I just was explaining. I just say whatever's in well

1127
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh god, I can't write a

1128
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: room together. And I walked away and my people were like,

1129
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: do you realize that you kind.

1130
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Of just like no, And I was like, wait, what,

1131
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: We're the same because I do this all the time.

1132
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't even mean to say that.

1133
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: I was just explained, I'm just so nervous, just I

1134
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: don't know what I said. Like I was like, I

1135
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: don't even know what I said.

1136
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: It was Mariah fucking carry That's why you don't know

1137
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

1138
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 4: It ring with you, ma'am. You have like a billion

1139
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: number one.

1140
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: So we got to meet her because this was so

1141
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: we did we did a peloton. You know, Cody raise

1142
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: me from Peloton, so we did his peloton class during

1143
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Christmas because Boone was on. I was on as a guest,

1144
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: like I was on the bike. It was a talk show,

1145
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: had my Christmas special out, so we were like sort

1146
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: of doing that together. Mariah Carey came out and stood

1147
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: and did like a bit.

1148
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: I was like, if you tell me this woman walked

1149
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: on a peloton, she.

1150
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Certainly did not. I veingue. She stood in what had

1151
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: to be I don't know forty eight in sheiels next

1152
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: to the Christmas tree, said it's time and then like,

1153
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: do you know did her thing? But when I tell

1154
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: you she like had like a moment where she needed

1155
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: to get help getting down from the pedestal. She said,

1156
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: can you help me down? Looked me in the eyes.

1157
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: They had put me in this one because they know

1158
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm like a huge fan. I almost broke my leg

1159
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: getting out of the pelicanes I read because I had

1160
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: fallen because I was like, I'm strapped in I can't.

1161
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you bever get the I grabbed her

1162
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: hands and helped her down to safety.

1163
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1164
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: So I helped Mariah Carey safety.

1165
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: I saved her life. That's what this story is.

1166
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: Literally, she may not have got She might still be

1167
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: up there if it wasn't for me.

1168
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: You're a hero.

1169
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: He is.

1170
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: My god.

1171
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: And I just saw her performing the music box. You

1172
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: know when I knew my dad was cool when I

1173
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: saw that he had the music box c D.

1174
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: Do you know what I have major daddy? And she

1175
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: just don't know mine very little. And he passed away.

1176
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: But I will say the one thing my father and

1177
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: I had in common was Mariah Carey went to Houston

1178
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: and Aretha Franklin. Really, I came to visit him like

1179
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: once in my childhood, and he had noticed that I

1180
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: had Mariah and Discman, My Walkman, Anti Skip Yeah and.

1181
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: Anyway you can hold it sideways anyway.

1182
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: And he started and he was like, oh, I love

1183
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: this record and he started no, he just started talking

1184
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: about right and it was like the one and only

1185
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: time I had a connection with my father.

1186
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: His music, and it was.

1187
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: Mariah and he was like, I love Whitney Aretha.

1188
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: I was like, those are my favorites. Like I was

1189
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: like what, so it was really yeah, Yeah, you had something,

1190
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: you had something.

1191
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great something my dad loved. Jimmy Buffett. I

1192
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: love Marguerita Belle Honey song. As you know by heart,

1193
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: I do the only the only English speaking artist my

1194
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: dad knows. And we know this on the pot is.

1195
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: Share and you know what ones have one that's a nice.

1196
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Dad will sing, believe what's your favorite share song?

1197
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 4: Because you're gonna hate me for mine? But I look

1198
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: mine shoop, Oh.

1199
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: My god, I love it.

1200
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: It's in his kiss, I just look. I love it.

1201
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: I know it's the Mermaids, it's for the movie, the soundtrack.

1202
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: It's not even my evers Mermaids.

1203
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: I love it. That's a really good world. She's got

1204
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: so many anthems, almost can't go.

1205
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: Near those, but then again, if I could turn look

1206
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: not just me like to pick that, to pick a

1207
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: favorite out of them.

1208
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: If I could turn back time is like for all time.

1209
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: That's a good karaoke song too. You ever go to

1210
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: the shoe this kiss? That's true karaoke last night and

1211
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: like singing, I do not hook up well.

1212
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: And here's the thing, no one told me, like really

1213
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: what I was walking into.

1214
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 3: And they were just like, hey, if we throw a party,

1215
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: like fans are coming and it's released, and I was

1216
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 3: like all right.

1217
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: They invited, well, so I.

1218
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: Came and then they were like, well, if you want

1219
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: to get on stage, and I was like, my voice

1220
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: is shot because I've literally been up five every morning

1221
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: and working all day. And I was like ah, I

1222
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: was like, maybe i'll do harmonies cut to shredding. I

1223
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: have no voice today, and because do.

1224
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 4: We have no monitor either? So I was like it

1225
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: yelled like hear yourself.

1226
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, but somebody goes I want to do I

1227
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: don't know how coup and I was like, are you serious?

1228
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: I have not formed that song though, and like for

1229
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: a decade, like you did that on SNL and you

1230
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: give an iconic riff at the end.

1231
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: I literally I forgot it.

1232
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss uh.

1233
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

1234
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: I was like, it's just been a.

1235
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 3: Minute for me, Like for a lot of those songs,

1236
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: I was like, looking at your lyrics, we love you,

1237
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 3: Katy Perry, Katy Perry and long Shot.

1238
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: She wrote that one, Oh yeah, I Love All I

1239
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: Ever Wanted is a special album for me because that

1240
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: was like when we were in college.

1241
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: That was when you were in college. I remember going home,

1242
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: just being on the plane. That was before iPhones, before

1243
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: like you could like street, you know, downloads. I just

1244
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: had had that entire album on my iPod and I

1245
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 2: listened to the entire album for the entire six hour flight.

1246
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: Just I love that album so much. You know, it's

1247
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: one of your my favorite songs of yours. Ready I

1248
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: love Oh my god, if you knew what that song

1249
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: was about, what could we find out?

1250
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: Oh that is such a sad well, it's like it's

1251
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: a really sad so have you do you know? Irvine?

1252
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, the same dark place. Really Yeah.

1253
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: So I'm ready now is really just like look, I'm done,

1254
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: like you can just take me like I'm yeah.

1255
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: That song I was playing during the almost at the time.

1256
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: Literally I know, but that song is actually literally about

1257
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 3: just like not living anymore?

1258
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Are you cash? Yeah, because they really made it sound happy.

1259
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: No, I know that was my point. Yeah, that I

1260
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 4: made it like how I wrote it was like kind

1261
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: of whatever.

1262
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: But my I told my producer, who was Jason Halbert

1263
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: and my musical director at the time, are always I.

1264
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: Know twenty years now.

1265
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Wow.

1266
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: But he when he found out, he was like, oh

1267
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: my god, I love that song, but now that I

1268
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: know what it's about, he was like, I hear the lyrics.

1269
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: Like I just remember skipping along on the streets of

1270
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: New York. I had just gotten into Tish, and I

1271
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: feel like.

1272
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, oh, I know, it's actually really sad.

1273
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: I always had my memory of that girl I was

1274
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: skipping in New York for ready, and you won't take

1275
00:54:59,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: that from me.

1276
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: You will not take them, Okay. But it's like sometimes

1277
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: you're sad, you know sometimes yeah, sure so, but yeah,

1278
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: I don't.

1279
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that everybody really knows that things are

1280
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: usually about. But that's the cool thing about music, though

1281
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: you hear it. I don't know either for different artists

1282
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: like that they write, but like, I think that's what's cool.

1283
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: You take what you need from it or what you

1284
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: see in it.

1285
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think do you do that a lot though,

1286
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: where it's like a happy sound quote unquote, but it's like,

1287
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the lyrics are like if you take a

1288
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: closer read on them, it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, this

1289
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: is dark, you know, or the other way around.

1290
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm happy in bubbly, but I think if you're able

1291
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: to experience, like, I'm just a passionate person either way, Like,

1292
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: so I can go real dark like, but I can

1293
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: also be real bright.

1294
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: So you know, it's finding that balance.

1295
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 2: Is this. I think every singer should have a Glennon

1296
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: Doyle era should have like a Love Warrior era should

1297
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: have Arene Brown era.

1298
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: Did you watch her thing on HBO Max? Now it's Max.

1299
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you call it?

1300
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: I have not seen that when I've seen her, Like

1301
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 4: Ted talks a.

1302
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: Twenty milligram weed seltzer down in front of the heart

1303
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: to receive.

1304
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 4: I don't smoke anything. Yeah, I enjoy gummy.

1305
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: You enjoy it, but I don't.

1306
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I'll never smoke any I don't enjoy. I just don't

1307
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: enjoy that either. I tried like vaping once and I

1308
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: was like, this is who vaping.

1309
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: For your voice than even smoking joints.

1310
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 4: But I just meant like I just I was like, well,

1311
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 4: I don't not get too dry, but like, yeah, that's

1312
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: not my vibe.

1313
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: No problem. So just to ask about like your actual

1314
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: instrument this is And I'm not being like I'm not

1315
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: blowing smoke, but you really do get better as time

1316
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: goes on, Like I don't know if you feel like

1317
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: your voice is capable, agree.

1318
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: Because I feel like whenever, even when I was young,

1319
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: like like I that's the biggest joke between because I

1320
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: had to watch something from Idle for some interviewing. I

1321
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: was in there like, hey, can you watch this? We're

1322
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: gonn reference it. And I went back and watched it

1323
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 3: and I was like, how did I win that show?

1324
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: But you know what, you know what the thing is

1325
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 4: like it was totally different. My voice was very different.

1326
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't even like miss independent like I wrote I

1327
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: wrote on that and like even writing that, I remember

1328
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: when I first came out started saying that like the

1329
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: verse to that was so incredibly difficult for me to reach,

1330
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: like the highs and lows that my range was just

1331
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: not what it is now like now it's a cake walk,

1332
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: but like back then it wasn't. So I think the

1333
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: more you know, if you don't use it, you lose it,

1334
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: like any you know muscle, I guess, but like but

1335
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: I yeah, for me, I one hundred percent agree that

1336
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 3: my voice is aged better.

1337
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: I just had to ask because it's like it really

1338
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: does it get I wonder if it's something you were

1339
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: doing or just like maybe just like as you get older,

1340
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: just like you know your instrument better.

1341
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: It just I think you know your instrument better, you've tore,

1342
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: you get a better endurance and stamina you and you

1343
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: also learned to say no. You learn to like no.

1344
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be like this whole trip.

1345
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: I didn't really sing a bunch of places because I

1346
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: was like, look, if you want me to be talking everywhere,

1347
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: you need to know, like I'm an actual vocalist, Like

1348
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: I can't be waking up at five am and going

1349
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: to bed at eleven, you know, or twelve and then

1350
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: like killing it vocally like it's not gonna happen. So

1351
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: we picked our moments of like what we were going

1352
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: to do. But like, yeah, you just have to know

1353
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: how to say no and yes, and also you know best.

1354
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: Because it's your literal voice and you're.

1355
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like everyone's because my favorite thing whenever I

1356
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: first started touring is like, well, this artist does four shows,

1357
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: four shows in like five days.

1358
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, that artist is dancing wonderfully.

1359
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that artist is not not necessarily.

1360
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: Do my sel in a dream world rights because it's

1361
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: a huge setlist. It's just like, you know, it's like,

1362
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: that's a completely different artist that you just mentioned. I

1363
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: was like, which is a great artist, by the way,

1364
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: but I was just like, don't compare me to someone

1365
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: who's completely different and like miming basically every night.

1366
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, I could do that too.

1367
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're having us like wrap up where.

1368
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: We wrapped up from like five and what I'm saying,

1369
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: it's going to.

1370
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: Be homophobic if you don't allow us to do I

1371
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. We're doing We're doing everyone.

1372
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna do it.

1373
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: We're doing it.

1374
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: What do we do this is?

1375
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This is our famous segment.

1376
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so that we do on our show,

1377
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: which is we for sixty seconds. We ran to get

1378
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: something in pop culture that is grinding our gears. It's

1379
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: a way to expel our demons. We're gonna go Okay,

1380
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna love it. They're gonna I'm gonna go first,

1381
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: then bow and then you.

1382
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: Start with I saying I don't think so honey, blank

1383
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: the thing all right, Matt Rogers, I don't think so

1384
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: many as time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1385
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Fucking with the ocean. Okay, I could have called you

1386
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: this years ago. Honey, don't go in there. Don't go

1387
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: down there because I'm telling you what. Oh my god,

1388
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: the submersible, yeah, dove, of course that happened, and God rest.

1389
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: But also I don't care how many billions you have.

1390
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: It's not a good idea. I don't think so, honey,

1391
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: going down to the Titanic.

1392
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: Wait, can I tell you something?

1393
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: No?

1394
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: And also not for nothing, but you know who I

1395
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: think was involved in this. The Orcas are coming something,

1396
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: so honey, that the Orcas are organizing. But yes, I do,

1397
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: because we've been fucked up to the Orcas. Tell it them,

1398
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: we see you grow wherever you're at. We Representalkham telling

1399
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: them God rest. I don't think some honey, even going

1400
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: into the ocean. You couldn't get me that submersible in

1401
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: the deep end of a pool. Let alone to the deep.

1402
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: Let Titanic be what it is, a grave film and

1403
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: a grave site for people that should be left to

1404
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: fuck alone. I don't think soonet to the ocean and

1405
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: fucking with it.

1406
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: I don't even like eels seals fish.

1407
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: No one seals fish now.

1408
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait wait, I did see this thing on

1409
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: the Discovery thing that was really cool. I think it

1410
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: was with will Smith and he went down and like

1411
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: a pod net looked different than what.

1412
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: The stay on lamb. No, I'm telling you.

1413
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: It's beautiful though, Like I'm glad he did it so

1414
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: I don't have to, and we got the footage. I

1415
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: don't want to, but I'm glad someone does it because

1416
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: it's amazing to see what's down there. They went like

1417
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: down where like you know, people don't when you generally go,

1418
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: So that is cool. I see why people would want

1419
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: to do it.

1420
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: But Kelly, okay, right to have one else.

1421
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 2: Kelly, when I say this sentence, how do you feel

1422
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: we know less about the deep than we do about space?

1423
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: I am?

1424
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: I am.

1425
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: Since I was a kid, I literally wanted to be

1426
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: ranbotsis like I remember, I love the ocean.

1427
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: Jaws did run that for me. But but I I

1428
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: just I love it. I think it's it's amazing.

1429
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: I do think exploring it is interesting, but exploring it

1430
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: respect like with respect, with respect much larger than us

1431
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: and like.

1432
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 1: You know, as count like you know what I'm saying.

1433
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: I think we're destroying you know a lot of marine life,

1434
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: you know, so I they do it respectfully.

1435
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: But I do think it's interesting because you can learn

1436
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: a lot.

1437
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: You never know, like scientifically speaking, what could be helpful,

1438
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, basically.

1439
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: Speaking, Like I think they're things like you know, I

1440
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know.

1441
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: There's I don't want to do it, like, but I'm

1442
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: not someone else to do it, so I have the

1443
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: footage to leave it.

1444
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Believe we've seen it. Like just everyone stay on the land.

1445
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: And also like did you see the video of what

1446
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: the submersible was. It's like a psych a genesis.

1447
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: Its like a PS two or something.

1448
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: It's any we programmed and a control for an Xbox

1449
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: to control this fucking thing.

1450
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Anyway. Wow, okay, this is mine's about this thing too.

1451
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Right here we go. Wow, Okay, this is topical culture.

1452
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: This is bowing. I don't think so many as time

1453
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey.

1454
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: These five people going to a fucking coffee shop right

1455
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: before they get on the submersible. These they interviewed the

1456
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: barista who talked to them, who gave them their coffee

1457
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: before they stepped into this little capsule.

1458
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: Are you talking about like who who's gotta go?

1459
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, yes, because you're giving these people cold bruds before

1460
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: they go to the bottom the ocean where they have

1461
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: a fucking toilet. That's like they thought they were only

1462
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: going to be there for two and a half hours.

1463
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: And these poor people, I mean, may they rest. It's

1464
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: your lives have been thirty seconds. But you don't go

1465
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: to a coffee shop before even like an elevator ride.

1466
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't do that performing on stage.

1467
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm just going on stage like you got it. You

1468
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: gotta keep it all like you gotta keep it all together.

1469
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: You got to keep it all together.

1470
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 4: You'll be about timing.

1471
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: It's all about timing.

1472
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: You are going on a you have to on a

1473
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: fast before you go into the submersibles.

1474
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: I guess yes.

1475
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: And look, it's so sad what happened this this company

1476
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: Ocean Drive whatever there. It's supposed it's because it's titanium

1477
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: and they worked in a carbon I don't know all

1478
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: about I've just been That's why it's fascinating.

1479
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: It's sad it's fascinating. It's so I'm gonna say it's

1480
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: it's just fascinating. It's giving Triangle of sadness. Did you

1481
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: watch the movie Triangle of Sadness?

1482
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: Did I love it?

1483
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: The pal this scene that went on for decades, It

1484
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: was like everybody kept I Woody Harrelson.

1485
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what. That man is a genius.

1486
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: I love that them getting drunk with the captain and yeah,

1487
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: And I didn't know what I was walking into.

1488
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 4: Like I just was at home my kids, like they're

1489
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 4: usually with me, but when.

1490
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: They go to their dad's like four days out of

1491
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: the month, I'm like, what, what do I want to

1492
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: watch this adult?

1493
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 4: And I was just like, I'll just put this on.

1494
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 4: And then I was like by the end of it.

1495
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell did I just watch?

1496
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1497
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: So good? Yeah, okay, okay, this is Kelly.

1498
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, I get to go.

1499
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: You will not take it from me, And I understand,

1500
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think time starts now.

1501
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, did anybody see social dilemma?

1502
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: Why are we all hooked to our phone? Like I'm

1503
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: selling an old person. But it's just like, why are

1504
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: we that interested in someone's coffee and what like?

1505
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: Not?

1506
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: You like, like, like why are we so interested in

1507
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 3: everybody else all the time? Why does everything need to

1508
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: be validated via It's just sad. It's a sad thing

1509
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: to live your life for likes. It's a sad thing

1510
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: that we project on our children, Like why are you

1511
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: letting your children do this?

1512
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: Anyway? Do you?

1513
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 4: There's your life how you want to.

1514
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: But it literally drives me nuts because I feel like

1515
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: it's just dumbing us down anyway.

1516
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 4: I know I sound like a forty year old, like

1517
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 4: I over it. I'm like, okay, whatever, that's all I'm saying.

1518
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: All right, period, there you go said, touch grass, touch grass.

1519
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's all different kinds.

1520
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: Gummy, don't people would be happy? I can't believe that

1521
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: you gave us so much time. This is so cool.

1522
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this.

1523
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: Hey, I can't wait to do it again. I'm like

1524
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: in New York now, I know I'm just stop by.

1525
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave you, and there is an

1526
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: open door policy for you.

1527
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 4: Don't invite me. Mom will show up.

1528
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: Thank you, congrats on the album. It's so good.

1529
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1530
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: And we do end every episode with a song. Okay,

1531
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: I am thinking starts there. If you want to hear that.

1532
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully maybe she'll do it August eighteenth of Las Vegas, when.

1533
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: We're mile that's the last day.

1534
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, okay,