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Speaker 1: is here to help you guys along. Hello, everyone, welcome

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Speaker 1: on this twentieth day of February twenty twenty six. For

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Speaker 1: Get another edition of Morning Combat. This one's for the scammers.

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Speaker 1: This one's for the rug pullers. But we ain't giving

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Speaker 1: you legal advice. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm merely

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Speaker 1: by my friend from the place that Sherman burned. It's

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Speaker 1: my friend and yours. It's Jed Michu Hi, Jed.

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Speaker 3: I'm in that intro. That's pretty fun, as I'm so,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the place that Sherman burned. I am from

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Speaker 3: the place that Sherman famously did not burn because he

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Speaker 1: That is very very true, my Georgia brethren. How are

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Speaker 1: you to Jed from MMA Fighting dot Com. Jed, I

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Speaker 1: spoken to you little excuse me? How are you doing good?

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Speaker 3: You know, we got fights this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Weird, insane things happening with those fights. We had weird

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Speaker 1: Be, some consequential main events tomorrow. I will say that

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Speaker 1: Gentleman that yes, thank thank you. A scholar, gentleman, a scholar.

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Speaker 1: We're going to preview the entire UFC Fight Night Houston,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know what was interesting was not only

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Speaker 3: But I have a question, Luke that no one has answered.

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Speaker 1: on Paramount Plus. Let's start with this opening kind of

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Speaker 1: consideration here. It feels to me like there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of momentum behind Hernandez, not just people being happy with

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Speaker 1: his fight style. But you look at I think we

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Speaker 1: have his wins if you can put those up as well.

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Speaker 1: Long Island. This is look at the wind streak of

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Speaker 1: this guy. This is very impressive. Submitting judelfo Vieira, Josh Fremed,

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Speaker 1: Mark Andre Berri. Oh, you know, it's a good fighter,

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Speaker 1: but he got him out of there. Edmun Shabazian just

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Speaker 1: ran over him. Robin Coopilov submitted him. Michelle Paeda stopped En,

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Speaker 1: Brendan Allen went to a decision fair enough, Brendan Allen's

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Speaker 1: pretty capable on the ground, and then just kind of

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Speaker 1: mugged Roman Delidze in his last contest. He's got a

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Speaker 1: ton of momentum, and I think we have to be

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Speaker 1: honest with ourselves Sean Strickland is a good fighter, certainly

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Speaker 1: a very difficult fighter to contend with defensively. But my

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Speaker 1: question is as follows, what like, how much of a

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Speaker 1: boost is really available here to the career of Hernandez

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Speaker 1: with a strong performance against Sean Strickland. Do we do

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Speaker 1: we lose him?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Oh, all right, let's put him off there. Look at him,

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Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at that, Look at that face

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Speaker 1: is a long time.

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Speaker 2: This is the second time we've lovet He's completely frozen

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Speaker 2: right now. But he did jump out before when you

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Speaker 2: were in the middle of a point, so no one knows.

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Speaker 2: But he's just frozen right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll give him back. I'm gonna here's what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to Jet about to open the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the show, which is, you know, this Strickland drama.

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Speaker 1: There is a cold calculation that the UFC is making.

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Speaker 1: In part what Strickland does is a turn off to people.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, for the folks who do stick around,

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Speaker 1: they're they're certainly just the reality is they're shot and

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Speaker 1: freud to when that person loses and potentially celebration when

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Speaker 1: they win. That really all depends. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a kind of you know, it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: the lowest form of how to fight promote, but it

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Speaker 1: is a way to fight promote, if that makes sense

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Speaker 1: in any In any case, the question is like, what

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Speaker 1: happens here for Fluffy? If he wins, he's on an

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Speaker 1: incredible win streak. To me, what's really interesting about this

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Speaker 1: fight is that you're getting it at a point where

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Speaker 1: Sean has achieved more, right beating as he has achieved more.

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Speaker 1: But there's a real question about where he is in

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Speaker 1: his career. There's a real question about that last fight

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Speaker 1: or the fight I should say against the second fight

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Speaker 1: against DDP. I know he now may have had some

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Speaker 1: injuries in that fight, but nevertheless just kind of looked

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Speaker 1: really languid and has had a defensively sort of more

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Speaker 1: natural style to begin with. Let's go back here to

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Speaker 1: Jed Jed. The question is we had an incredible we

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Speaker 1: have Fluffy meeting Sean at a moment where Fluffy is

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Speaker 1: on an incredible momentum and Sean has achieved more and

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Speaker 1: since a higher position, but there's real questions about whether

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Speaker 1: he's coming or going. Do you share that framing? And

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Speaker 1: also what is a realistic upside for Fluffy in the

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Speaker 1: event of a win.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that's sort of a lot. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with the upside for Fluffy, right, if he wins, I

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Speaker 3: think he's fighting for the belt next, Right, Sean Sticken's

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Speaker 3: a former champion. Sean Strickland is certainly eyeballs right, Like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is going to appeal to

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Speaker 3: people what he's done, but this is a man who

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Speaker 3: is broadly liked among the MMA fan base, and so

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Speaker 3: you beat him, and if you beat him in the

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Speaker 3: way Fluffy tends to beat dudes, you're over. I don't

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Speaker 3: think that means he's going to jump the line, but

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Speaker 3: his next fight is for the middleweight belt. He may

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Speaker 3: have to wait depending on Hamsa CHAMAIAV and how busy

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Speaker 3: he wants to be, which doesn't seem like super busy,

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Speaker 3: which is a little annoying. But Fluffy's next up if

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Speaker 3: he beats Strickland. What was the other part of that question, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Like, do you agree with the framing that you're getting

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Speaker 1: this interesting moment where, yeah, it seems like Seawn's coming

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Speaker 1: down what justice Fluffy's coming up in their meeting, But

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Speaker 1: it's hard to tell exactly A, because Sean has achieved

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Speaker 1: more and B he is defensively a really tough nut

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Speaker 1: to crack.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Sean Strickland's coming down. I think Sean

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Speaker 3: Strickland very shockingly won the title and that is the

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Speaker 3: fluke of his career. The blip right was an unexpected

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Speaker 3: high point, and he's settled back. Not a bad fighter

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Speaker 3: at all, not saying that, one of the better defensive

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Speaker 3: fighters in the sport and certainly in this weight class, right,

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Speaker 3: but like this feels right. You know, he went hammer

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Speaker 3: and talks with drick As Duplessi. In the first one,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people thought he won. In the second one,

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Speaker 3: DDP made adjustments and Sean Strickland has been the same

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Speaker 3: fighter for the entirety of his life. He's never going

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Speaker 3: to adjust and so if you can adjust around him,

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Speaker 3: you're probably going to have success. Then, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Polo Costa fight is what it was, like, he's a

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Speaker 3: better fighter than Paulo Costa. Split decision was probably not

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Speaker 3: necessary there. So I think Sean Strickland's just sort of

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Speaker 3: the same. He's at the peak of his powers and

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Speaker 3: I don't see him like sliding. But if he loses here,

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Speaker 3: it does you know, there is sort of a momentum

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Speaker 3: shift because he has been up and down, even if

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Speaker 3: I don't think the quality of his performances has changed

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Speaker 3: realistically at all, where and Fluffy obviously is on the upswing, right,

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Speaker 3: this is Fluffy's run. If Fluffy loses this fight on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: that's it. He's not challenging for a belt. Which sucks

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Speaker 3: to say like that, and that feels maybe, you know,

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Speaker 3: a bit reductive, But like when you have this amount

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Speaker 3: of momentum, if you step wrong on the way up,

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Speaker 3: whoever gets back to it, Like whoever surges to an

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Speaker 3: eight fight win streak loses one and then works their

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Speaker 3: way to a title fight. It just doesn't happen in

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Speaker 3: the sport. Sean Strickland, by nature of already being a champion,

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Speaker 3: is just going to be closer to a title fight.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, if he beats Fluffy.

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Speaker 2: Has like non.

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Speaker 3: Zero chance that his next fight just hits for the

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Speaker 3: belt as well. So I don't think that Sean Strickland

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Speaker 3: aspect of the framing is correct. The Fluffy, I think

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Speaker 3: is obviously correct.

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Speaker 1: I want to push back on that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you make some interesting points. But

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Sean the fighter. Okay, how about this.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I'm seeing and let me

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Speaker 1: see if you're seeing anything kind of like that or

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Speaker 1: if not, why Again, he might have had an injury

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Speaker 1: in the second DDP fight. That is a thing that

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Speaker 1: has not been revealed that would not be surprising. And again,

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Speaker 1: injuries vary and how much they can impact performance, but

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Speaker 1: fair enough to say it an impact performance in a

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Speaker 1: reel and sometimes devastating way. Nevertheless, here's what I have noticed.

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Speaker 1: Sean has developed a style where he is very good

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Speaker 1: about establishing trench warfare, and I think there's a reason

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Speaker 1: for that. I think the reason for it is that one,

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Speaker 1: it creates a big defensive barrier. He's got a high guard,

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Speaker 1: he's bringing his knees up right, he's push kicking you,

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Speaker 1: he's moving out of the way. It's like you can

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Speaker 1: never really get to a space where you can let

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Speaker 1: not the current version. Obviously Poeton did it, but in

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Speaker 1: general it's a little Now it's a little harder to

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Speaker 1: land super super clean on him. He'll roll with punches.

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Speaker 1: So he's got this really strong defensive barrier. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is that also limits his offense. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that you'll notice is, you know, for example,

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Speaker 1: he does these huge peel outs where he'll bring his

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Speaker 1: head behind his body and all the he'll cross step

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Speaker 1: to get all the way out of the way. And

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Speaker 1: that's very defensively useful, especially in the octagon, even if

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Speaker 1: it know breaks some fundamental rules about balance and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is that, like

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Speaker 1: it bakes in a ton of defensive difficulty to pin

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Speaker 1: him down. And I think one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I was expecting in the second DDP fight was a

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Speaker 1: bit of a like if you're getting pursued by DDP,

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Speaker 1: you peel out a little bit and then you do

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Speaker 1: what like Sean O'Malley does, where you angle off and

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Speaker 1: then you know, you capture a guy's momentum and you

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Speaker 1: really go after him. O'Malley exceeds at this, letting guys

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of space and then just crushing him.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't see that really at all from strictly.

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Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is I think he's

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Speaker 1: worked his game out to a certain level, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's stalled. I feel like, the defense is strong,

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Speaker 1: and he's got good cardio, and he's certainly very experienced.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a pushover. Far from that. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying he's again difficult to look good against, win or lose.

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Speaker 1: What I am saying, though, is I think he's reached

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Speaker 1: a limit. And the DDP fight, for me, the rematch

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Speaker 1: was the point where we're supposed to see something a

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Speaker 1: little bit different and we didn't. And I just kind

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Speaker 1: of feel like, if that's all we've got, I do

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Speaker 1: think it's worth considering lost two of his last three.

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Speaker 1: Granted the same guy, but like I get more coming

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Speaker 1: or going vibes. What do you make of my assessment? No,

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Speaker 1: I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Reached his limit. He's how old Ashan stricken? We look

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Speaker 3: this up. Actually, oh, he's.

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Speaker 1: About to turn thirty five or maybe he just turned thirty.

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Speaker 3: Reached his limit and probably is actually then about to

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Speaker 3: if you're not already, Yeah, if not already, he's probably

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Speaker 3: is about to start declining at that age. It just

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Speaker 3: is what it is. And he his game is not

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Speaker 3: really certainly not offensively. He doesn't add offensive weapons. It

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Speaker 3: has been adding sort of defensive tranches.

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Speaker 1: Bro is this what I used to do? Y'all? Is

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Speaker 1: this what I used to do? Tell this motherfucker to

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Speaker 1: get in on his phone.

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Speaker 2: I've been texting him and he said he's having internet issues,

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Speaker 2: and that's obviously what keeps happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I'll wantn't you pop on here for

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Speaker 1: just a second. What do you make of my theory? Here?

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Speaker 2: Iring myself in here? Hold on, let's see what happens alight?

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Speaker 2: All right? Uh so what was your theory?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? Basically that like I kind of felt like the

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Speaker 1: second but to summarize it very quickly, I basically felt

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Speaker 1: like the second DDP fight was an opportunity to show

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Speaker 1: that your style wasn't too defensive to really achieve against

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Speaker 1: you know again, I know he did well against Izzy,

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Speaker 1: but you know, consistently high level achievement, like you can

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Speaker 1: actually add offense to this, and so you can really

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Speaker 1: begin to turn a corner, because if it's just going

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Speaker 1: to be something opposite, here we go. We got them back.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what the.

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Speaker 3: Fuck's going on? My Google Fiber is being a real

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Speaker 3: dick right now, and it's annoying.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Sherman burned Atlanta and it just hasn't been the

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Speaker 1: same sense.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, Google Fiber has actually almost never

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Speaker 3: given me issues. It's substantially better than other internet service

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Speaker 3: providers I've had. But uh, it's it's not.

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Speaker 1: Being my friend gigabit speed. I'm any Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: Gabit you had you were you were aware, you were

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Speaker 1: saying Sean Strickland had reached his limit. Please continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sean Stricklands just plateaued. And the rest

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Speaker 3: of the division is you know, that's how divisions work.

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Speaker 3: They are unless it's heavyweight, you are always moving forward,

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Speaker 3: and so the division will start to catch up and

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00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: at some point, maybe even right now, Sean Strickland is

646
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: sort of a litmus test of like, okay, are are

647
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 3: you a fighter who studies tape? Because Sean Stricklan is

648
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: going to do things that you know he hasn't added

649
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: a wrinkle DDP did and so when he came into

650
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: that fight, so you know he cooked him the second

651
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: time around, injury or not, he cooked him. Paulo Costa

652
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: did not. Where's Fluffy Hernandez on that? If Fluffy Hernandez

653
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: comes in and has a plan to consistently generate offense

654
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: and work around the jab he's going to win this fight,

655
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: and I'm not entirely sure he will. I'm fascinated by

656
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: this matchup in that.

657
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Regard, I'm not sure. Well, you know what, Okay, yeah,

658
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: we could play this one. Actually, yes. Part of what

659
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: has happened with Fluffy at times where he's had some

660
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: inconsistent performance, is still good obviously look at the win streak,

661
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: but at times much stronger than others. I thought he

662
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: looked really good against Aleds, but he's had some others

663
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: where he was very, very sluggish. He talked to our

664
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: own friend of the show, Brian Campbell about, for example,

665
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: the Delieds fight, and he basically argues, if he's healthy,

666
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: he thinks that there's nobody that can touch him. Let's

667
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: take a look.

668
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about your fight last August.

669
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: This was the one, even though it was your eighth

670
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: consecutive win that I think walk up anyone who had

671
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: ever doubted you of what you did against Roman Delidze,

672
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 5: who simply doesn't get physically handled. Right, you can outpoint him,

673
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: but what you did was wear him out, drag him around,

674
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: choke him out, and then drop the body as if

675
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 5: it was one of the more powerful, most disrespectful moves.

676
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: I've seen it in Octagon And I say that lightly

677
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: by the way that this statement.

678
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: Do you think you made Fluffy with that? With that performance?

679
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 6: It's like I've been telling the USC, I quit playing

680
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 6: with me. Give me somebody. That's like a real test,

681
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And he thought he was

682
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: going to big brother me I walk through because I

683
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 6: get he's beat some people, but that's not the case.

684
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

685
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 6: If I'm healthy, I'll beat the I promise. I don't

686
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: care who you are, so with like, that energy is

687
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 6: just what I brought.

688
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

689
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 6: If you're going to try a big dog me, then

690
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 6: you know I'm a big dog bro.

691
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: You gotta love that energy. Holy shit, he sounds I mean,

692
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: what are the young n say?

693
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: Confidence?

694
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: Locked in? Locked in is what he sounds like. I loved.

695
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: I love this energy for him, don't you?

696
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, because this is I mean one he's

697
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: on a far win streak.

698
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 7: Man.

699
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: I feel like you're probably pretty confident when you've put

700
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 3: together eight mostly dom.

701
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, bro, he's got to get back in

702
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: on his phone or we got to call it a

703
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: day on this bullshit.

704
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: When you put together eight dominant wins. I'll finish this

705
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: point for him. You know, Fluffy, he's coming in here,

706
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna have all the confidence in the world. Is boy?

707
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Is it back to back rank guys? Now, let me

708
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: look back at this. I believe Copy Love was ranked

709
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: I believe Michelle Preto was. Yeah, so four in a

710
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: row coming into this. I mean, I'm taking Fluffy all

711
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: day here, Luke, who are you actually signing with in this?

712
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: Hold on?

713
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Hold on? We got de Ritter was ranked sorry, Delidze

714
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: was ranked ten, Alan was ranked seven, and Paeda was

715
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: ranked fourteenth and yes, and then fourteenth. So this will

716
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: be his This will be his fourth ranked opponent in

717
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: a row. I want to talk to Jed about the

718
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: fight itself. I would like to discuss that for a

719
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: moment here, whether he comes back or not. Can we

720
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: text him to come back on his phone? I don't

721
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: care if it looks bad. This looks worse, so to speak, right,

722
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: this looks where you just happens.

723
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like his phone's going to be terrible.

724
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean if he cuts out every few I mean,

725
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know he's texting me right now? All right?

726
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: Put me on solo because I would like to just

727
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: like this fight a little bit. Someone asked me yesterday,

728
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: and I'm been thinking about it since what is the

729
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: X factor that's going to control or I should say,

730
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: that will determine whether who wins or loses. And the

731
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: answer is it's never the same X factor usually for both,

732
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: although it can be, and this actually might be one

733
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: of those cases. Like in other words, sometimes and routinely infights,

734
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: X factors are there's one for X and then there's

735
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: one for why. I think this is the same, Jed.

736
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: I want to put something to you here if I can,

737
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: speaking of the fight itself at the risk of being

738
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: overly simplistic, and I don't think this is the only factor.

739
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about this, but I

740
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: do think this is a very very important factor. Real

741
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Estate in MMA is kind of everything, and the guys

742
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: who know how to use it, like Volkanovsky versus the

743
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: guys who don't, like Diego Lopez. You know, they can

744
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: both be really good, but one is going to have

745
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot more success than the other from a defensive standpoint.

746
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Typically speaking, Sean is pretty good about using real estate.

747
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I bring this all up to put together the point namely,

748
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I really this is one of those fights where I

749
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: absolutely believe the guy pressing is in all likelihood the

750
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: guy winning, because if Sean is pressing, he's very good

751
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: at that, getting you behind the jab, getting you behind

752
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: the teep, and then he can peel out whatever he

753
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: needs to by By contrast, I should say when a

754
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: similar vein actually but in the very his own way,

755
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Anthony Hernandez loves to just pour pressure, get under your

756
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: under get under behind your elbows, get to the body lock,

757
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: toss you down, you get back up, and just rinse

758
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: and repeat. His whole style is based on like momentum

759
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: and accumulation together. Do you agree with this assessment that,

760
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: more than maybe most fights, who is pressing here is

761
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: going to be a major determinant of who wins.

762
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think most most MMA fights. I

763
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: think that's the dynamic. Like if I were a coach,

764
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: and I'm not, and I'm an idiot, so take that

765
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: with all the grains of salt, I would just train

766
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: fighters with the cattle.

767
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh bro okay, he's gotta get on the motherfucker phone.

768
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 3: Three fighters, Yeah, no, pull them off, pull them.

769
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: He's in and out he's in and out.

770
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: Hold on, Jesus, Crost.

771
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: Take it. Take a beat, come back on the phone.

772
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: And I'm going off the phone, all.

773
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: Right, all right?

774
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: While he just orients himself. As I was saying earlier,

775
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I think this is like a major, major, major, major factor.

776
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: If you see Anthony Hernandez, he can spend time on

777
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: the back foot, but if you're spending if you're watching

778
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: him spend round after round on the back foot, you

779
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: might even say, oh, what's Sean really doing? How much

780
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: damage is he doing? Well, maybe he's not beating him

781
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: up per se Oh I suppose that's possible, but like

782
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have to do that. Is he touching him?

783
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: Although I will say this too, this is the part

784
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: about Sean's game that I also find a little bit frustrating. Namely,

785
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: he elects to have this trench warfare where you can't

786
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: really ever cross it. You're kind of just lobbing stuff

787
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: from either side of it. And what that ends up

788
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: happening is just kind of flattening the fight too. I

789
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: don't mean that it's boring. I mean it makes both

790
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: guys have to do similar kinds of offense, and so

791
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: it's just a question of like, you know, you ever

792
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: seen you ever seen Jed You ever seeing these guys

793
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: you go into like a bar or some kind of

794
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: an event and they got the clicker, you know, like

795
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: three people walk in, they go click, click click. That's

796
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: what that's like. If you like a DDPS fights with Sean,

797
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: it's like you just one guy throws click, the other

798
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: guy throws click, and it's hard to even tell who's

799
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: doing the better work. The second fight not so much,

800
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: but the first fight definitely. That's the case. I'm just

801
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: sort of pointing out. There's also this question of Sean,

802
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: of Sean Strickland making a fight in such a like

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: his preferred terms also kind of make it close, because

804
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: if a guy is gonna, you know, pushing back a

805
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: little bit, there's just not much offense either guy is

806
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: able to score in a sustained way, which makes it

807
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: also a liability for Sean long term.

808
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, his style is problem. Like when you are a

809
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: defensive first fighter, especially in this sport, like you are

810
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: not clearing like huge gaps because some dudes can just

811
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: you and maybe you're landing better shots, right, like maybe

812
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: you're not getting hit as much as it looks like

813
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: but that's the DDP fight, like the first one is

814
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Sean is like a better fighter, but DDP just does

815
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, and judges often confuse activity with

816
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: achievement in this sport. So like his fights tend to

817
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 3: be close, the only like not close fight that really immediately.

818
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: Shit.

819
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: So that's a big face from Luke.

820
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: No, no, keep going. I think what we have to do. No, no,

821
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: keep going. We have to leave it on a two

822
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: box here, because the more we jump around, it's gonna

823
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: mess with your signal. But if we leave it here

824
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: on a two box, I think we'll be okay, all right, So.

825
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: I trust it that you know what's going on. I'm

826
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: on a phone check right now.

827
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: So just leave it on the two box and I

828
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: think we'll I think we'll be all right. In this

829
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: particular case, let's look at this one graphic from Fluffy's

830
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: response to Sean Strickland's ice meme. This comes to us

831
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: from at least the aggregator was MMA junkie. In this case,

832
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: some people this is Anthony Hernandez talking quote some people

833
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: are just dirt bags and like to bring it up.

834
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: I hope he keeps that same e fing online energy

835
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: in the effing cage because I'm going to effing torture him.

836
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: This kind of this kind of mirrors the same energy

837
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: we just saw at his interview with BC. He's full

838
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: of piss and vinegar right now, writing a ton of momentum.

839
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I'd prefer if we do we weren't doing deportation promotion.

840
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it brings Ah, for fuck's sake, I mean, he.

841
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: Just completely dropped out it. Oh God, right, no rolling,

842
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, our segment later we will see what happens.

843
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: But you know, for the show, all right, let's let's

844
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: do a little bit of the betting on this one

845
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: long island. What give me some of the on the

846
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: main event? How are you? How are you understanding the

847
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: odds here?

848
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people have been coming at

849
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: me being like Luke, I'm surprised you didn't take Sean

850
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: Strickland here. I guess because the value he's plus two

851
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: twenty five. But I just feel like, is there a

852
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: world shown Strickland wins this vision, sure, but it's not

853
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: the world I see. Like Sean Stricklan was taken down

854
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: seven times by DDP, six times in the first fight,

855
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: once in the second fight. I'd argue Anthony Hernandez is

856
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: a better wrestler than DDP, DDP awkward everywhere, but he's

857
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: not great anywhere. I feel like Anthony Hernandez. I don't

858
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: want to put him in the great category either, but

859
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: he's a really fucking good wrestler. I feel like he's

860
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: gonna have his way with Sean. He also averages seven

861
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: takedowns per fifteen minutes. Luke, this is a twenty five

862
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: minute fight. That's like twelve takedowns per twenty five minutes,

863
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: so like two takedowns around, three takedowns around. I feel

864
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: like there's no world where Sean wins a decision here.

865
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm actually I like Fluffy by decision, but I'm thinking

866
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 2: there's a world Fluffy could finish him. So I took,

867
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: like officially in a parlay, Fluffy Hernandez's money line, but

868
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: like my prediction would be Fluffy by decision. We got

869
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: jet back. I'm gonna bring it.

870
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.

871
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 7: I don't know.

872
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Snyder about that. I'm not sure how

873
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna go. Let me ask you about this very

874
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: do you think sewn is washed is a strong word

875
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: past it. I'm not sure what to say.

876
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he's thirty five years old, is he? Yeah,

877
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: but he's gonna be thirty five next week? I believe, No, no, no,

878
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: he are He just turned thirty four. I believe right now, dude,

879
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: he's thirty four. In February twenty seventh, he'll be thirty five.

880
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: Ah, I had the wrong birthday here, That's why his

881
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: birthday was February to eighth.

882
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: So he's about thirty five. I don't have the rankings.

883
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm pulling them up real quick just to kind of

884
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: compare him to the rest of the division. I mean,

885
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: you know, he only lost to DDP coming off being

886
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: the champion. It's not bad losses. Uh, you got Naserdine there,

887
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: who he's already beat, right, he already beat Nasardine. So

888
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: like he's kind of still hanging in the top five.

889
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: You got your Brendan Allen's, your Izzies, your Kyle Bohalio's.

890
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: I as much. I don't think he's washed, Sorry I

891
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: should say, I don't think he's in his prime, but

892
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: I do think he's going to hang around the top

893
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: five for a few more years. Honestly.

894
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I thought might be possible again I think

895
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: he's defensively sound, so that will just kind of last.

896
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: All right, here's uh, I'm not I'm not sure what

897
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna do here. I think here's what we can do.

898
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: Here's what we can do. We can try Jed one

899
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: more time. I think leave it at two box, see

900
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: how it goes. Don't just move around if that. If

901
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: that fails, then you're gonna be my co host the

902
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: rest of the show.

903
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: All right, what's Jed back?

904
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: Like it?

905
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: Okay?

906
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: I like it? This is important. I do this all

907
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: the time when I'm golfing. Sometimes you have to let

908
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: your technology know, like, hey, you fuck up again, I'm

909
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: gonna snap you over my knee. Routers on. Notice we're

910
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: ready to go.

911
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: All right, who is more likely to win by decision?

912
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Sean or Fluffy?

913
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: Uh, the exact same. I think this is going to

914
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: the cards. Uh like I I mean, I guess if

915
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: you're like, gun to the head Sean, But like Sean

916
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: Strickland's pretty durable dude, and Fluffy is also extremely you know,

917
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: Sean Strickland's is not that violent of a dude. So

918
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: I would be pretty surprised if this doesn't go twenty

919
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: five minutes.

920
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: All right, give me your ultimate prediction who wins and why.

921
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Fluffy, but I don't like it because

922
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: my analysis is momentum, which is like kind of garbage.

923
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: I am fascinated to see how the early goings of

924
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: this look because Fluffy is very hittable early ones, and

925
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: that Sean can just kind of pop him early and

926
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: sort of have his game going. Maybe the dynamic changes quickly.

927
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: I know Long Island Luke was saying, you know that

928
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 3: DDP got got him down, got Sean down a bunch.

929
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: He didn't really do a ton with that. Fluffy can

930
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: do more, but Sean is very good at preventing takedowns

931
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: and then limiting exposure. I'm gonna go Fluffy, but I

932
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: think this fight's pretty close to a coin flip.

933
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought up the fact that Fluffy

934
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: gets hit. He does get hit, and sometimes he kind

935
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: of rolls with it. Most of the time. In fact,

936
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: he rolls with it. The Leeds popped him a few times,

937
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: both with some big punches and some elbows just kind

938
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: of took it. It's I think it's just a natural

939
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: consequence of partly his style but also just moving into people.

940
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: You're you know they're gonna tag you with stuff. But

941
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: in general, he's been pretty good about it. And it's

942
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: not like Shawn's a dynamic puncher really. I mean, you know,

943
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: anybody can get caught, but he's got a super dynamic puncher.

944
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go fluffy by decision here. I also think

945
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: it goes to the cards. I certainly respect Shawn's defense.

946
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: It is very very it's just real hard to get through.

947
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: I think Sean's gonna look good early. But one thing

948
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: we didn't even get a chance to discuss here. Did

949
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: you see the videos that have come out just this morning.

950
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: We didn't have a chance to plug him in Sean

951
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: having a real rough weight cut, and I'm sure it's

952
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: never easy, but he said he was going blind in

953
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: one eye as a consequence, a bad one. So fluffy,

954
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I think you might see him lose the first two

955
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: rounds and then by round three began to turn the

956
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: tide a little bit, even though Shawn's got typically good cardio.

957
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: That's that's what I think is gonna happen here.

958
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: I did not see that that is concerning.

959
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: He made weight. He made weight, but he looked like

960
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: some shit doing it.

961
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: Apparently everyone did so grats to the fighters, But I

962
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: mean that is when you're having vision going away, that

963
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: seems like that's not ideal.

964
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: So last time I heard about that was Darren Till

965
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: against wonder Boy. Remember that.

966
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: I haven't forgotten that is the thing that happened. But yes,

967
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: it's it's super rare. Yeah, man, that's crazy.

968
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

969
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: In general, Sean Strickland is a good cardio but like

970
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: Fluffy is Fluffy. So no one's winning a cardio battle

971
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: with Fluffy unless Morob puts on forty pounds. And even then,

972
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: I you know, if he puts on forty pounds, is

973
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Morob going to be Morob? Probably not.

974
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: Last thing on this. Let's say the winner here in

975
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: either case is fairly pedestrian. They get the job done,

976
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: but it doesn't you know, it didn't. Wow? You are

977
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: they are they gonna leap frog, leap frog leap frog?

978
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Imvov, Well, it's a's of Doctor Seuss socks

979
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: and sox tongue twister. What do you think? No?

980
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: I I think Ava was locked in against Tremaiev. I

981
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: know Tremiav is like some rumblings. He kind of doesn't

982
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: want to fight him, but it's just gonna happen, and

983
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: the winner of this will fight either a Mavov or

984
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: random other person when scham I have inevitably vacates the

985
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: bell to move up. So I don't think they're leapfrogging,

986
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: like I don't know what it would take to leap

987
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: frog Amovov. It would have to be something really special,

988
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: probably from Sean Strickland. I don't think Fluffy could do

989
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: anything that's like gott to give that guy the title

990
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: fight over a Mavov.

991
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: So I think if he stops Sean Strickland will get it.

992
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: You think so over.

993
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: I think he goes again Strickland, durable, experienced, good defense.

994
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: I don't even think this is necessarily likely. But if

995
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: he goes in there and just dummies him and then

996
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: stops Sean Strickland, that's a big deal, dude, shopping Stopping

997
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: Sean Strickland is hard to do.

998
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: I agree, big deal, great performance. I would. I'll be

999
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: shocked if he gets a title if he gets the

1000
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 3: next title fight off of this, All.

1001
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: Right, fair enough, let's talk about the comin event. I'm

1002
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: not sure what to say about it. I don't hate

1003
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: the fight, but I don't know exactly how to contextualize it.

1004
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: What I can say is Jeff Neil's coming in with

1005
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: three of his last four bouts he's lost, whereas Medich,

1006
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: who hasn't necessarily been a major achiever, nevertheless two fight

1007
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: win streak as he enters this contest. Is what is

1008
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: realistically on the line between these two.

1009
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: For Jeff Neil, it's do you know, can you stay

1010
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 3: in the show a little longer?

1011
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1012
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 3: Like, he won't get cut off a loss, but he's

1013
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: hanging around the top end of the UFC's rankings. He's

1014
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: like twelve or thirteen something like that. This would end that,

1015
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: And this is how much juice do you have left

1016
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: to stay as one of the fifteen best guys in

1017
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: the world, Furrows Medic he has. I mean, I think

1018
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: he's never been to a decision Long Island, Luke, correct

1019
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure this man is

1020
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: all gas, no breaks, and so this is his opportunity,

1021
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: it will probably be his only opportunity to get a ranking, right, Like,

1022
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: if he loses this, he's just going to be fun,

1023
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: you know, Nico Price dude, right, And if he wins this,

1024
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 3: maybe I mean, I don't think any of us would

1025
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: say he's making a real title run, especially at walterweight,

1026
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: how stacked it is right now. But he gets a

1027
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 3: ranking and his next fight will be against somebody else

1028
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: with the number, and he can try to make like

1029
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: a real run of things as opposed to just being

1030
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: like the best spot on every undercard he's on.

1031
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think partly Jeff neils from Texas.

1032
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: They want to put Texas fighters on the card. These

1033
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: two are gonna fucking kill each other, right, I mean,

1034
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: that's just what you're gonna get out of a contest

1035
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: like this. I'll say this for meticch if he's got

1036
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: a little Mike Chandler in him. And I know Michanim's

1037
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: not your favorite guy, but what I mean is this,

1038
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of a gene where he's

1039
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: willing to waive what his ultimate win loss could be

1040
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: in favor of just competing in a way that I

1041
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: think he likes to compete more. You know what I mean.

1042
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: He's got He's got three losses. Jalen Turner stopped him

1043
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: in the first round. Mick to beec oral By stopped

1044
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: him in with a neck crank in the second round,

1045
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: and then Soriano got him in just thirty seconds into

1046
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: the first round. Not for nothing, Turner and Oral by

1047
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: real tough fights for anyone. Soriano is certainly a little

1048
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: bit more manageable. Within the.

1049
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 3: Puna dropped down, there was like a hot minute where

1050
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: he was fire.

1051
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like not for nothing, and his last three

1052
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: wins we're talking about here with medic Muslim Salakov who

1053
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: he stopped, Gilbert Urbina who he stopped, and Tim Means

1054
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: who he stopped. This is this is gonna be a

1055
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: good fight.

1056
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun as hell. This fight is gonna

1057
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: be fun as hell because the Normo's managed fight and

1058
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: Jeff Neo is sneaky, super fun too. Like basically Jeff

1059
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: Neo is like the Lorenz Larkin of this generation, where

1060
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: he's like super fun, hard to look good against, like

1061
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: he's gonna give a scrap to just about anybody. You know,

1062
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: probably not a top five guy, but good. And erost

1063
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 3: Metich is just a banger, you know, Like they're gonna

1064
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: come in, they're gonna throw hands, it's gonna rock. We

1065
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: have a great time this coming a bit.

1066
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: I'll also say this, like the protest fight that Jeff

1067
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Neil's coming off of, which is the last one that

1068
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: would that wasn't necessarily a great look. He took Ian

1069
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: Gary to a split decision, and he he gave Shafcott

1070
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: a bit of a tough couple of rounds there, rocking

1071
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: hell yeah. So I mean, you know when when when

1072
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: he's dialed in and he's ready, is he the best

1073
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: guy in the division. No, But at a bare minimum,

1074
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: this fight will be good for as long as it lasts.

1075
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: At a bare minimum, you kind of have to appreciate

1076
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: it on those terms. Certainly, if I'm looking, Jeff Neil

1077
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: is just.

1078
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: One of those dudes that like they talk about in gyms,

1079
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: you know, that fighters talk about, like, yeah, man, that

1080
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: guy can fight. That guy can just he ain't he

1081
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: ain't the world beater. He can fight his ass off, though.

1082
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff is the guy. Jeff is the guy that

1083
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: when a loudmouth comes into the gym who doesn't know

1084
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: what they're doing the I'm not saying that they actually

1085
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: do this at fortist. I'm saying he's the kind of

1086
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: guy he'd be like, yeah, oh oh you're here, Yeah,

1087
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: we got we got a guy for you. Go fight Jeff.

1088
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: You're like, Jeff, I can beat Jeff. Jeff, I will

1089
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: fuck you up. Believe that.

1090
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: We used to have a girl at our gym whose

1091
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: name I won't say, and she was the designated that person.

1092
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, you get like a college wrestler or somebody

1093
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: come in and she weighed one hundred and twenty pounds

1094
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 3: and would just kick the shit out of dudes. It's

1095
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: the most humbly experience for them. It was always super fun.

1096
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: By all right, now I get to watch this.

1097
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fun The gym enforcer is not who

1098
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: you think it is.

1099
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: Necessarily, it's never you think it is.

1100
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you one of this, Okay. So I

1101
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: realized that Jeff Neil versus Earroshmitiic is the co main event.

1102
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: That is this placement on the card, and some people

1103
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: might like that, they might hate that, but I gotta

1104
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: say the fight that I think, I don't know if

1105
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: it should be in that role, But to me, I'm

1106
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more excited about as fun as I

1107
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: think Jeff Neila Metich will be. This fight between Dan

1108
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: Egay and Milki Costa is just incredible. Melki Costa did

1109
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: not necessarily win, you know, Fighter of the Year last

1110
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: year obviously, because I think a guy like Waldo kortez

1111
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: A Costa did a lot, and there was other guys

1112
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: who achieved higher. But one thing that he had in

1113
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: common with cortes A Coasta was how often not quite

1114
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: the same amount. But listen to this. He fought in

1115
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: February Andre Feeley, he stopped him. He beat Sea Rod

1116
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: in March, he beat Julian Airosa in May, and then

1117
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: he finished Morgan Sharier in the first round. Back in December,

1118
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: he had in Awesome twenty twenty five, and here he

1119
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: is against Dan Egay, who is a very proven guy,

1120
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: certainly a little bit more of the gatekeeper role, I

1121
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: think you might say. But this one is to me, clearly,

1122
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: who do we have in Melki Costa? That is what

1123
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: the UFC is asking. How far can you go here?

1124
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: Tell me your excitement level for this fight and if

1125
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: you share my framing.

1126
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean your framing is exactly correct, right, Like,

1127
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: that's just where Danny Gay's at in the stage of

1128
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: his career. Is Hey, you are the litmus test for

1129
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: guys coming up. Melki Costa was my second team All

1130
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: Violence featherweight last year, like he just had a banger

1131
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: of a twenty twenty five he I mean, I mean,

1132
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: for as much as we complain broadly about like the

1133
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: quality of the UFC and star power, Milki Kosta is not,

1134
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 3: you know, a star. I don't think he'll ever get there,

1135
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: but god damn, he is fun to watch. And like

1136
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: we got a lot of dudes who we used to have,

1137
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: like some some fun fighters. We got a lot of

1138
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: crop of this sort of like last couple of years

1139
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 3: who are just heaters, and he is one of them.

1140
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: So and Danny Gay has been like Danny Gay can't

1141
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: be killed, which is really important thing, like one of

1142
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: the more durable men alive. And so this is like, hey, Melkie,

1143
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to beat him up for at least

1144
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: eight of fifteen minutes. Can you do it? Because Danny

1145
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: Gay has been very very good at not letting up

1146
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 3: and comers take his spot.

1147
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: And Danny Gay, I mean all respect to guys like

1148
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: Feely in particular is a really good one. But se

1149
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: Rod is good. Erosi is certainly very competitive, and his

1150
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: last opponent, as I mentioned, also you know, a very athletic,

1151
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: pretty good striker. I do think he is better than

1152
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: those guys, and I do think he has got way

1153
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: more tools and way more understanding of how to use space,

1154
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: so that that to me, this is like a really

1155
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: really good test of what we're gonna get out of

1156
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: a guy who is obviously, at twenty nine years of age,

1157
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: really coming into his own. I don't know what to

1158
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: say at the heavyweight for Sergey Spivak and Anti Delia.

1159
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. It's fine. I guess right.

1160
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 3: It's heavyweights, man, they are They're heavyweighting. That's what they're

1161
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: doing out there.

1162
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't have much to say. It's what does it

1163
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: mean for the divisions? As the great Habibim? Who cares?

1164
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: Who cares? This is the right answers. I'm just gonna

1165
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: do fights. That's fine.

1166
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: We have a really really interesting fight between up and

1167
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: coming prospects. Jacoby Smith eleven and oh you've seen him

1168
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: in the UFC. He looked a little bit strange in

1169
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: the Nico Price fight where he kind of gassed a

1170
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: little bit, but he's still got the job done. He's

1171
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: an incredible comes from a wrestling background taking on a

1172
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: guy who's got maybe the best nickname in the UFC.

1173
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Not the muscle shark like Sean Shirk, No, the muscle

1174
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: hamster Josiah Harrel. He's also eleven or zero. This is

1175
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: his UFC debut, but he comes in from being a

1176
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: champion over in LFA. He recently fought in twenty twenty

1177
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: six in January, so he's getting to call up to

1178
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: the big show. He looks like the real deal. Holy Field.

1179
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a pension for this one,

1180
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: per se Jed, but I like this contest.

1181
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: He was Josiah Harrold, an LFA champ. I don't think

1182
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: I knew that he was an LFA champ.

1183
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: I believe he was am I reading.

1184
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: He was also scheduled to fight j DM three years

1185
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: ago and then had to have brains.

1186
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: No, he was a champion from a different one and

1187
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: then fought in LFA and then went to UFC.

1188
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: That's what I say.

1189
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: I feel like usually I know ELFA champ. So for

1190
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: that of the.

1191
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Skipt good correction.

1192
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that much that is dead wrong. I

1193
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: don't know that much about Josiah Harrel. Looked into him

1194
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: like a little bit in prep for this. But Kobe

1195
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: Smith's one my boys I think like coming off Contender

1196
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: Series is like, yeah, this guy is one of the

1197
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: best contended series products of is that two seasons ago?

1198
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: I think for him now super talented, like incredible athlete,

1199
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: good wrestling, got a bit of pop in his hands,

1200
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: Like I I think there are very big things in

1201
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: store for Jacoby Smith if he can continue to develop

1202
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: like linearly. But that's never the case in MMA, you know,

1203
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: So I am there are a couple like, there are

1204
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: a couple of fighters on this undercard that I am

1205
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: very key to keyed in on, three of them to

1206
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: be specific, and he is one of them.

1207
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: All right, tell me how who else on this card?

1208
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of Pinhele Soriano, who's on this card as well

1209
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: taking on Raz brocking my which is a fun one

1210
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: off the prelims. Who else do you have your eye

1211
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: on in this contest?

1212
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Uh? John Paul leboz Noyani. I may have butchered that,

1213
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 3: And I'm uh, he's coming off Contender Series and was

1214
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: I think this is his UFC debut. He was supposed

1215
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: to fight somebody else, right like Austin Vanderford, and then

1216
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: that fell through. But like that dude, very polished. I

1217
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: think he's going to be quite quite good. But the

1218
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: person I'm the most interested in, and people who follow

1219
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: my work will know this. I think I may be

1220
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: the biggest fan in the whole of the world of

1221
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: one of the opening fighters of the entire event. Carli

1222
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: Judice is my girl. Crispy Carly Judice is going to

1223
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: be a future champion. She bangs so hard and she's

1224
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: going to put Juliana Miller through a fucking wood chipper

1225
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: on Saturday.

1226
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: You like her too Long Island, I was gonna say,

1227
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: I like that Curtain jerker is one of my favorite

1228
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: fights on the card. I watched that season of Tough

1229
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: that Juliana Miller won, so I've always kind of liked her.

1230
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't think she's very good, but I've always kind

1231
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: of liked her. Carl Judice has been all action, a

1232
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: ton of fun to watch. She averages. I don't have

1233
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: the numbers in front of me, but lt you would

1234
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: love looking at her striking numbers. It's like ten strikes

1235
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: permitted or some shit, and all five of her wins

1236
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: by knockout. Like She's just a ton of fun. She's

1237
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: a huge favorite minus eight hundred or some shit, but

1238
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: should be funny.

1239
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: She is the closest thing the UC has to Dakota

1240
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: Ditchivo right now, like she is a wood chipper. Is awesome.

1241
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: I love her so much.

1242
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: One half of the Isaac Dulgarian fight is back. Yadier

1243
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: del Vayer is back against Jordan Levitt, which is not

1244
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: for nothing. Also kind of an interesting contest as well.

1245
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: And I'll say this the women's bantamway contest Nora Cognoli.

1246
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm saying her name wrong. The French lady

1247
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: taking on Jocelyn Edwards out of Panama. That's also a

1248
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: pretty good contest.

1249
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: That's a rematch. That's a rematch. Nora beat her. I

1250
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 2: don't know, four or five years ago or some shit,

1251
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: but and Nora is a huge underdog this time around.

1252
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: I guess Jocelyn's gotten a lot better.

1253
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: She's gotten a lot better of late.

1254
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but I'm run too.

1255
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm still like you already beat her. I'll take the

1256
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: flyer on Nora there. The reason I popped in is

1257
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: because you brought up Yadier del Valle, who's coming off

1258
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: the one side of the Isaac Delgarian. Did you guys

1259
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 2: see that Michael Johnson has a fight booked now, So

1260
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm not implying anything, but I feel like that points

1261
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: to the Alex Hernandez side being involved more in the bettings,

1262
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: because I see, why are they letting Michael John? You know,

1263
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 2: I thought there was a gate going on, so kind

1264
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: of interesting.

1265
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm not going to cast dispersions here, but yeah.

1266
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: Certainly an interesting thing to keep in mind there. And

1267
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: there are other fights you could pick on this card

1268
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: as well that we Scoule is on the card, Odie

1269
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: Osborne's on the car, cheating a Ja Kawani versus carlos Laal.

1270
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: There's a ton of good. I don't care so much

1271
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: about the Zacharist Michelle Paeda fight. Pta tried to be

1272
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: like normal and it just kind of ruined him.

1273
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: So it is the worst. He that's like, he used

1274
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: to be my boy de Molador, used to be one

1275
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: of my guys, and then he just it's not fun,

1276
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: Like if you're gonna lose, at least be fun. And

1277
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: now he's just bad. It's it's heartbreaking to see what

1278
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 3: they've done to him.

1279
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Speaker 2: All right, good good, my boy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number three. So, as we mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier this week, the Netflix had announced that they're going

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Speaker 1: to stage their first MMA event this May. It'll be

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: headlined in Los Angeles, California, at the end to a

1284
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: dome where the Los Angeles Clippers play UFC three to eleven.

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Speaker 1: I believe was there. It's going to be headlined by

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Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carano. It's a five round fight.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be one hundred and forty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: They have been off a combined twenty six twenty seven years,

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Speaker 1: depending on the math on how you want to do

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Speaker 1: it now, there are many aspects of this. You can

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Speaker 1: see the face off here and that of course is

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Speaker 1: Nikki Sabaderian in the background, who is one of the

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Speaker 1: executives over at Most Valuable Promotions. Yes, Jake Paul essentially

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: is staging this fight. If you can find that an

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Speaker 1: interesting footnote at which I suppose that it is all right.

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Speaker 1: There are many, many, many ways till I sort of

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: parse this announcement. But if I had to ask you

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Speaker 1: now that we've had a couple of days to digest

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Speaker 1: it as well, your biggest takeaway from this announcement is actually, what.

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Speaker 3: Man, We're just the entire cultures all things that happened

1301
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, right, like, well, we're not pumped about

1302
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: new and interesting things. The biggest fights in the world

1303
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson and coming back, you know, it's Rond de

1304
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: Ralsey and Gina Carano. It's I'm not opposed to this.

1305
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: Actually I've come around to even thinking the fight itself

1306
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: will be quite fun and it makes sense, like this

1307
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: is age appropriate matchmaking, as my friend Alexander k Lee

1308
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: likes to say. But it was entirely weird. I did

1309
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: not see this coming whatsoever. And had I like, had

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Speaker 3: you told me this was going to happen, I would

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01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: have been like, oh, that's probably gonna happen at the

1312
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: White House. That feels like an appropriate venue for a

1313
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: weird spectacle fight like this. And so instead it's being

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Speaker 3: on Netflix and it's it's crazy times. We live in Man.

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: This is never would have put this on my Bengo

1316
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: card at the start of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Netflix is in the business.

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Speaker 1: I am not convinced that people are like, oh, this

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: is a big deal that Netflix is getting into MMA. Well,

1320
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: in a certain sense, yes, I do think that's true,

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: but it's it's like, what do you expect to. My

1322
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: question to folks would be like, how many events do

1323
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: you think annually they'll hold? Now, if Ronda ends up winning,

1324
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: they might try to do a home rematch that would

1325
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: be probably pretty big. If Gino wins, I don't really

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01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: know what the next move would be. Maybe they'll have

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: a try to fight Holly or I don't really know.

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01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Big Francis is out there, Francis and Ganu, maybe they

1329
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: could do something with him. But as you can see,

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01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: there are things that they potentially could do. But this

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: idea that they could turn this into some kind of

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Speaker 1: like regular intervals, I'm a little skeptical about that. I

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: think again, I think there's some things that are available

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: to them, and I don't want to downplay what it

1335
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: means with the world's largest streamer to be showing MMA fights.

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Speaker 1: That is significant news in and of itself, but the

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: material is simply not there for the most part, to

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01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: have any kind of consistent presence. It feels like a

1339
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: lot of the enthusiasm is based on this expectation that

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01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be semi regular Jed, I'm not convinced

1341
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Speaker 1: that they will be.

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we'll probably know a little bit

1343
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: more after this, right, I would guess I wouldn't put

1344
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: a lot of stock in this. I'd guess they're going

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: to be semi regular. You know, this is not a

1346
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: once a month thing, not even once every three months,

1347
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: but once or twice a year when they can scratch

1348
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: together some sort of headliner that they feel is big enough,

1349
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: you know, honestly, kind of like they've already done with Netflix, right,

1350
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: Jake Paul fighting, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fighting Anthony Joshua. Like,

1351
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: just these are not Hey, we're doing forty events a year.

1352
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 3: We're not even doing twelve events a year, just very

1353
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: specific things, pick and choosing their spots. And I don't

1354
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: know that they're even viewing this as like we can

1355
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: do this in perpetuity, but just like, yeah, let's just

1356
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: make some stuff happen. Our business is one at a time,

1357
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: not a long term we're going to change the MMA

1358
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: industry or whatever. But I think we're going to get more,

1359
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: right because, as you noted, there there's some other options

1360
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: out there. Fransting Gano's PFL deal is about to be up.

1361
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: He's not going back to the UFC. That just does

1362
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: not seem to be likely either he re signs with

1363
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 3: the PFL in a weird thing, or like, hey, we

1364
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: can do some fun things with you. We can do

1365
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: Francis spectacle things, France sting Gono versus Eddie Hall. I've

1366
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: been pitching for a hot minute. They could put that

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: on Netflix and people would tune in to see that

1368
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: freak show thing. They could, you know, Francis. Maybe Francis

1369
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: does box Jake Paul. Now they can do sorts of

1370
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: things here, and Ronda's already suggested it. And you take

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Speaker 3: this with a grain of salt, but that this is

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Speaker 3: not a one off for her. I don't think she's

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: coming back to have twenty more fights and get back

1374
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: in the thick of things. But if she beats Gina Crano,

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Speaker 3: things go well. It wouldn't shock me if they found

1376
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: another thing to do with her. Maybe that's Amanda Sorano.

1377
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 3: Maybe they split boxing and MMA matches with Amanda Torano.

1378
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: They can be creative and have some things that will

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: draw very casual interest, and I think that's okay. Not

1380
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: everybody needs to try and be going toe to toe

1381
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: with uc especially because you can't, so why even try.

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01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: To do that?

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: Can I be honest? About something. Okay, I mean, I'm

1384
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna get.

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: No one's here. This is a circle of trust. You

1386
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 3: can be honest.

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Speaker 1: I I'm so. The expectation around this announcement is that

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. People are split, right,

1389
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: So some people are like, oh, I'm super pumped about this,

1390
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: and that definitely seems to be able to be like, hey,

1391
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: this fight is like, you know, ten fifteen years too late, whatever.

1392
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: Fair enough to each his own. I'm not. I'll watch it,

1393
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: you know, I'm moderately interested. It's fine, you know whatever.

1394
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: But the thing that I there's this expectation. It's like, oh,

1395
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: Netflix is in the business, this is this is gonna

1396
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: be good for the fight game. It's going to be potentially,

1397
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this in a minute, the most watched

1398
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: event of the year for the MMA side of combat sports.

1399
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: And my reaction to that is not so much about

1400
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: that claim. Again we'll wait on that in just a second,

1401
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: but rather it's like, can I be honest of all

1402
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: the things that I think MMA needs? And I'm not

1403
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: exactly calling Ronda Carano a freak show five, that's not

1404
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: that's not quite right. But if they did something like

1405
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: if they did something like Francis versus Eddie that kind

1406
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: of would be. And I feel personally it's like, of

1407
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: all the things MMA needs, it actually doesn't need that.

1408
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: You might think that it needs that because it will

1409
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: draw big numbers, and you know, I'm not sure how

1410
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: much Francis Versus Eddie would, but you know, let's just

1411
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: imagine that it did. You know, It's it's not that

1412
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: there's not a victory to be had there. But again,

1413
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this up having watched what Japan did

1414
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: to to basically have a nuclear meltdown of their own industry.

1415
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: They went all in on freak shows and it hollowed

1416
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: out the center of the sport there and they've they've

1417
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: never recovered from it. Am I overstating some of the

1418
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: risks here? Again, not so much with Krano and Cide,

1419
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: but this idea, like what what can Netflix actually do?

1420
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: And they put on Jake Paul versus fucking Mike Tyson.

1421
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that is what actually boxing needs and

1422
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that if they go that direction for MMA,

1423
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: that's actually what MMA needs. Fuller divisions, They don't need freak.

1424
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: Shows, Yeah, I don't. Netflix is not here to save MMA.

1425
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: That's not and I'm fine with that. Like the criticisms

1426
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 3: to be levied to MMA and its growth entirely, in

1427
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: my mind go to the UFC because it is MMA.

1428
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 3: They own the sport and so they are the ones

1429
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 3: who need to be developing things like that. This is

1430
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: just like, look, sometimes I want some candy, you know,

1431
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: look at me. I'm a man who enjoys a bowl

1432
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 3: of candy, Luke, and this is a bowl of candy.

1433
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: And I'm fine with them not being like, hey, here's

1434
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: a salad. And honestly, if they fill this undercard with

1435
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: like good bouts, I'm gonna be a little disappointed that

1436
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, here's a lot of metals on the

1437
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: undercard of this, Like this is PFL or Bellatar back

1438
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: in the day. Yeah, Like God loved PFL and I

1439
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 3: genuinely wish them as much success as as possible to

1440
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: have because I think that they it is necessary to

1441
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: have some other outlet for real professional MMA fighters. They

1442
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 3: are currently running the belt or Playbook to a t

1443
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 3: and that was a business that did not succeed in

1444
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: case you forgot a bellet or ended. But they're signing

1445
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: a lot of like good fighters like they're absolutely bringing

1446
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: in good fighters that nobody cares about, and that's like,

1447
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 3: that's the core problem here. I'm fine with an offshoot

1448
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 3: circus style thing happening once every six months, especially because

1449
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: like this one is going to break contain and it

1450
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: will be a reason to talk about fighting with normies

1451
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: other than the oh yeah, that embarrassing thing did happen,

1452
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: which is nice. We so rarely get those these days, Luke.

1453
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm good with this. I'm actually getting

1454
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: more interested as I've had more time to think about it, too,

1455
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: because I think the fight itself is going to be fun.

1456
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. There's a bunch of stuff in

1457
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath that we already discussed, I'm sure, on

1458
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: your various programs as well as mine. I don't want

1459
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: to get back into those things. I want to spend

1460
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: the conversation forward. Do you think this beats the UFC

1461
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,480
Speaker 1: White House event in viewership?

1462
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: Yes, for two main reasons. One, barried entry is so

1463
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 3: much lower, just way more people have Netflix than Paramount,

1464
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 3: which I assume is where the White House card will

1465
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 3: be shown.

1466
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: And CBS. They were saying no CBS before and then

1467
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: the latest reporting is that.

1468
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 3: Okay, if the latest reporting the CBS, that maybe changes

1469
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: a little bit, but I'm still probably going to side

1470
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 3: with Netflix. This is very specuative because also I don't

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: know what the White House Card is. I know right

1472
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: now that the draw to the White House Card is

1473
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: it's it's weird, like it is. There are fights on

1474
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: the White House Lawn, which is same thing to happen, frankly,

1475
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: and I do think that is going to break contain.

1476
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 3: People will tune into that purely because of the spectacle

1477
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 3: of fights at the White House Lawn. But this is

1478
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 3: on Netflix, and as you know, Luke, like combat sports

1479
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 3: are star driven mediums and unless the UFC is doing

1480
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: something that that doesn't seem like they're doing right. Like

1481
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: for a long time, I thought the White House Card

1482
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,879
Speaker 3: was going to be Connor versus somebody a John versus

1483
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: Alex and a bunch of like big famous people and

1484
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 3: weird stuff. And now it's like kind of feel like

1485
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: maybe they're just gonna put two title fights and treat

1486
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: this like the Sphere Show, where it's like Ilio Couria

1487
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: fights justin Gaegee, which is a great fight and I'm

1488
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: interested to watch it, But like that's Illi Tipuri is

1489
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: not like atall like a breakout star, you know, so

1490
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: that won't be the gravitas. Rond Ralsei is extremely famous

1491
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 3: and you can watch her fight.

1492
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: For free on how famous is she? In twenty twenty

1493
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: six we were talking about this pre shows.

1494
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 3: Like fifteen million Instagram followers or something insane, like she's

1495
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: still quite famous. She's less famous than that at the

1496
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 3: peak of her power, certainly, but she is a very

1497
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 3: famous individual. And Gina Crono's like a pretty famous person.

1498
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say, like really famous. But you know, if

1499
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: you're looking at the Netflix numbers, and I wrote these

1500
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: down ahead of time so i'd have them, Taylor Serrano

1501
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: three did six million viewers on Netflix. Right, both of

1502
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 3: these women are substantially more famous than either of those two.

1503
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: I don't think we're getting to like the Jake Paul

1504
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua thirty million number, but this is going to

1505
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 3: clear ten. Do you think it can be thirty million?

1506
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 3: So that'll be nuts if it does that.

1507
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: I think I think it can beat it. Now, I'm

1508
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: not saying that it will beat it. I think you're

1509
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: probably right to come in a little bit under that.

1510
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: Maybe somewhere fifteen twenty maybe something like that.

1511
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 3: It's still the most watched fight ever.

1512
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would still be insane. But here's what I think,

1513
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: and the reason why I say I don't know is

1514
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: because genuinely we haven't seen what happens yet. Man, when

1515
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: how was coming through Jed, you could probably speak to

1516
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: this as well. You guys just cannot understand what it

1517
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: meant for someone. I said this before Connor had a

1518
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: bigger following. That is true. But the places Rousey within

1519
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: society would show up at the peaker for Powers were

1520
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: places you could never even fathom a UFC fighter showing

1521
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: up and to that point, hard to reach demographics that

1522
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: typically don't watch fights. It's so funny. We talked. We

1523
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: started the show talking about Sean Strickland on how the

1524
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: UFC is just going in Like the UFC apparently thinks

1525
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: there's a ton of edge lords that are going to

1526
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: power their company for the future. Whereas when Rowsey was competing,

1527
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: like if you went to Rowsy versus Carmouche, there were

1528
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: young girls at this thing like it was a fucking

1529
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: K pop Demon Hunter show. You know, like you just

1530
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 1: can't even you cannot even imagine the amount of earned

1531
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: media that Rowsey got in her run. So here's my

1532
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: point to you. Je did to It's like bring us

1533
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: all home if the media responds to her and coronto

1534
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: like this, if you get that kind of buy in

1535
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: on her, Yes, I do think it can beat thirty million.

1536
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: It's just a question of where what media responses are

1537
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1538
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: I think the media response is gonna be positive. It

1539
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 3: will depend on like sort of the tone they take

1540
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: as this moves forward, probably right, because Ronda did not

1541
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: end her MMA career great and hasn't really reckoned with

1542
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: that in a way that maybe would help her here.

1543
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 3: But the early returns on this are very positive. That's

1544
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: the message. And like to your point, Lup, my sister

1545
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: has never once asked me about fighting because she simply

1546
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: does not care. The only time it ever happened was

1547
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: when Ronda was finishing people in ten seconds and it

1548
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, she has broke contain in a

1549
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 3: way that is really really outside of the norm for

1550
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: this sport. And especially, like you know, broadly speaking, women's

1551
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: athletics are having more of a moment than they ever

1552
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 3: have in this country, and this can be sort of

1553
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 3: a Hey, like, here is here, is this the vanguard

1554
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 3: of women's MMA is fighting the original women's MMA fighter

1555
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: or whatever. Thirty million would be mega numbers. And if

1556
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: it does that, then there's not a shot in the

1557
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: hell the White House card is clocking that. I'm much

1558
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 3: more conservative. I think we're at least getting into the

1559
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 3: ten fifteen million. And again, it's important to note that

1560
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 3: that's still like double the most watched fight ever, which

1561
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: is I think it's still Kimbo James Thompson is still

1562
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: like clocked seven million view like concurrent viewers or whatever

1563
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: like that is television, Yeah, like, because the pay per

1564
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: views are never going to clock those those numbers, right,

1565
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: and so like, if this thing just fifteen million, like

1566
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: that is, that's a huge one. If it just thirty

1567
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 3: everyone should dance in the streets that's involved in this promotion.

1568
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: What kind of a B side is Coronto to you?

1569
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's She's the hardest for me to

1570
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 3: judge how famous she is, because I do easier is

1571
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: pretty easy. People know, Like if you ask people on

1572
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: the street to name it female MMA fighter, Ronda Rowsey

1573
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: will be said by most of them. I know, Gina

1574
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: Kron is not the same. I pulled my normy friends

1575
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: after this and was like, hey, are you interested, and

1576
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: they're like, Rowsey's fighting again? Do I know Gina Crano?

1577
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: And then you like maybe mention something like oh yeah,

1578
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 3: I recall, or that's the girl from the Mandalorian or whatever.

1579
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: Nobody's like, that's the girl from the Steven Soderberg film,

1580
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: which is a tragedy because Steven Soderberg.

1581
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: Where her voice was dubbed over. You don't even hear

1582
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: her real voice.

1583
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 3: Pretty tough, but still she's leading Soderberg film. That's kind

1584
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: of cool. I don't know how famous she is because

1585
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 3: Luke I was thinking about this once this fight got announced.

1586
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: You you're a political man, and I know that Chat

1587
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: loves when we talk politics. This is their favorite thing.

1588
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: Who doesn't have to veer into actual politics? But like,

1589
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: how is Gina Crano the only person who really got cancer?

1590
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: Right?

1591
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: Like she got canceled and then didn't like immediately follow

1592
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: the like Riley Gaines right wing, I'm gonna be on

1593
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: Fox News a bunch of talking. She just kind of

1594
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 3: was in that really bad movie with Donald Cerni and

1595
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 3: then just hasn't I think she sued Disney, but she

1596
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 3: hasn't really been that. Oh did they settled?

1597
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: That s they recently settled. So I think that has

1598
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of been one of the things that has maybe

1599
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: held up what she wanted to do. But they came

1600
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: to someone with terms of which you haven't been disclosed.

1601
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure she made a bunch of money whatever, but yeah,

1602
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: they settled, But like she didn't.

1603
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 3: She just hasn't been in public life in a while,

1604
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: like since the since firing, getting fired from Disney, and

1605
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: one it feels like she could have right, Like there's

1606
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 3: Fox loves to do that, they could put her on there.

1607
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 3: She's a good looking person, she could talk about things,

1608
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 3: but she hasn't chosen to do that. And so this

1609
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 3: feels to me like she just this is an opportunity

1610
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: for her to be famous again and to not rehab

1611
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: her image. I don't think she's gonna come out and

1612
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: apologize for whatever. I don't even think she needs to, honestly, like,

1613
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: whatever that happened, move on from it. But she can

1614
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: just come out and be a famous person in a

1615
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: big cultural moment and maybe get back to where she was,

1616
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 3: you know, four or five years ago to some extent.

1617
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 3: And so kind of for both of them. It's a

1618
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: little redemptive in or at least getting them towards what

1619
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: they want. And I think that's gonna play. I think

1620
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,440
Speaker 3: that's gonna work for them.

1621
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: One of the things that's been driving me nuts is

1622
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: watching newer fans tell me what Rousey and Gina's careers were, Like,

1623
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: it's like, you fucking idiots. I attended Gina Carano fights

1624
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 1: in fucking person like where were you in two thousand

1625
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: and eight? Like, motherfucker, Like, shut your mouth, you don't

1626
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. And certainly I covered the

1627
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: entirety of Ronda's grip and I covered the entirety of

1628
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: Gina's careers, which it was relevant on the national stage.

1629
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: You know, I can tell you the truth about them.

1630
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: Number one. Two things everyone has to understand. One almost

1631
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: everyone of the opponents that Corono had had to come

1632
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: up and wait. Colbald had to come up and wait,

1633
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: Kedzie had to come up and wait, Sexton had to

1634
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: come up and wait, Young had to come up and wait.

1635
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: It was constant that they had to come up and wait.

1636
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: In fact, this fight's at forty five. Yeah, and by

1637
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: the way, she fucking missed weight a ton like it.

1638
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: Was a little still was making the number.

1639
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: And like fighters like Rosie Sexton was like like a

1640
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: natural flyweight, you know what I mean. People do not

1641
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 1: understand how much. And that's not Gena's fault exactly, because

1642
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: they were trying to make a star out of her

1643
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: and there just wasn't female It was like, I guess

1644
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Tohill was around, but there just wasn't a lot

1645
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: of women for her to fight at the time. So

1646
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: that's just what you got. I mean, obviously Cyborg was

1647
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: a little bit closer, but that's what That's what you got.

1648
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 1: That's that's uh, that's number one. Number two. The reality

1649
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: of this fight, Jed, is that Rondo might be damaged goods,

1650
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: both of the damage she's taken over the course of

1651
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: her career and certainly the way she handled not so

1652
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: much the loss of the home fight, but then the

1653
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: rebound against Nonas where you're just getting your you know,

1654
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: there's no head movement and you're just reaching. It's just

1655
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: like all the worst signs. But what I'll say is

1656
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:07,959
Speaker 1: this Ronda is a vastly better athlete than Gina Carano.

1657
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: Gina Carano trained because she was dating kit Cope and

1658
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: went to the gym and one of the Thai trainers

1659
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: called her fat. That's why she started training. Ronda is the.

1660
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: Cannibal, because that's what Ronda did for this fight. I know,

1661
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: if you saw Ronda's comments, like she looked kind of fat,

1662
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: so I thought we should fight.

1663
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: I know, she's like I saw her out at she

1664
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: was I wanted to do something for her. I was like, Okay,

1665
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: maybe you don't tell the public that if you want

1666
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: to do something for But the point I'm trying to

1667
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: make is Ronda is a way better athlete. And I

1668
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: know what folks are gonna say, Oh, well, she also

1669
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: fought betch Cohea. Yeah, she did fight betch Cohea. She

1670
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: also beat Sarah McMahon. Guys, I got news for you.

1671
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: Gina Carano never fought anyone even remotely the caliber. Even

1672
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: Cyberg is a phenomenal athlete, it's not the athlete that

1673
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: Sarah McMahon is. I mean, get the fuck out of here, please.

1674
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to point out is I favor

1675
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Ronda in this contest unless she's complete shot from getting

1676
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: her lights punched out. But people who think that they

1677
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 1: were equivalent talents in their prime, you are high. Ronda's

1678
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: was way better, way, way way better.

1679
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: Goode. The sad truth of this fight is that very

1680
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: likely Ronda Rousei could still beat much of the UFC's

1681
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 3: top fifteen women's bandon weights. I can say this confidently

1682
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 3: because Misha Tate is currently ranked in the ufcs they rankings,

1683
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: and Gina Crano could not. Uh, Ronda is more than

1684
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: likely going to win this fight. But two things that

1685
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: give me some level of interest in watching it happen. One,

1686
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: Ronda could in fact be damaged. Goods there are. She

1687
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 3: had a lot of quotes that make it I won't

1688
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: say overly concerning that this fight is happening, but like

1689
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: you should raise an eyebrow that Ronda's fighting again after

1690
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: some of the stuff she has previously said. But like

1691
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: and Gina Crano, for many faults can hit right. She's

1692
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: a big woman. She can crack a little bit, so

1693
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: that could happen. But mainly, like I just I think

1694
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 3: this will be fun because Ronda Ralsey was never in

1695
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 3: a boring fight and mostly Gina Crona wasn't right like

1696
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: they are. It's gonna be ugly, probably gonna be a

1697
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,919
Speaker 3: little sloppy given the long layoffs for both of them,

1698
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 3: But like this is gonna be gae che pimblet. You know,

1699
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 3: like this isn't the best thing we've ever seen, but

1700
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 3: we're all gonna have a good time watching it. And

1701
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: in the end, you know, Ronda will win and maybe

1702
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: she'll fight again, and that will be cool, Like that

1703
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: will be an interesting thing to have happening in the

1704
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 3: sport right now. Because while Luke, to your point, maybe

1705
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: MMA doesn't need freak show fights, MMA needs women to

1706
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: fight that people care about. Because there are two of

1707
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: them and they're currently not fighting because one of them

1708
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: just got neck surgery.

1709
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: Right and by the way, is trying to basically kill

1710
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: herself to make a way class. He has no business competing.

1711
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: And even though she can do it and still become

1712
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: a champion, it's a huge problem. I will tell you,

1713
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about it in a certain sense. The

1714
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: one thing I will say before we close here a

1715
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: little bit. We put the graphic up there are there

1716
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: is going to be some extra testing done by the

1717
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: California Athletic Commissioner Ronda, who has detailed what they call

1718
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: frightening neurological issues from your site there at MMA Fighting,

1719
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: written by our good friend Alexander k Lee, but of

1720
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,440
Speaker 1: course it's been documented in million other places. Here's ESPNMMA

1721
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 1: explaining that Ronda and Gina will have to undergo extra

1722
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: medical and neurological testing ahead of this contest. I will

1723
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: tell you, in general, I don't have much concern. I

1724
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: will say I do feel like this is a better call,

1725
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Jed than the Ronda Rousey Katie Taylor boxing match that

1726
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Netflix was kind of kicking the tires on. To me,

1727
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: that is just an automatic note and it should be

1728
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: my judgment and an automatic no. In this case. However,

1729
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: what I will say is Gina much better fight for

1730
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: Ronda the other way. How bad would it be if

1731
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: Ronda gets her lights punched out again after having explained

1732
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: she's had severe concussion problems, and it happens on Netflix.

1733
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 3: It would be tough. I don't suspect Netflix will care,

1734
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 3: right because like they're not going to bring up the

1735
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 3: severe concussion problems, but like for us, we'll be like,

1736
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 3: wow that maybe this shouldn't have gone on despite the

1737
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: fact that they're getting neurological testing, you know, like that's

1738
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: just now. Pallor would hang over this it would be

1739
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: catastrophic for her ever fighting again, probably because like then,

1740
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 3: any loss is probably just makes her not want to

1741
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: fight again. But like that kind of loss feels like

1742
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 3: you would be like, oh, yeah, I stepped away for

1743
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 3: a reason and I need to just be at peace

1744
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: with that. And we would then get to talk a

1745
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: lot about like, wow, that was bad and this thing

1746
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: that was kind of fun and that is the most

1747
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: viewed fight of all time ended in a really, really

1748
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: depressing way. I feel way better about this than Mike Tyson, right, Like,

1749
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 3: you know, Mike Tyson fighting there was a non zero

1750
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: chance somebody died in that fight. I think that that

1751
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 3: is not very likely here. It's age appropriate matchmaking, and

1752
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: so if that happens, it won't be the best thing,

1753
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 3: but it's not something I'll like clutch my pearls on.

1754
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: This is if I will discuss. I'm sure for the

1755
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: many weeks to come, we'll be one to pay attention to.

1756
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: Certainly in twenty twenty six, let's go to topic number

1757
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: four if we can. Boxing is back, and we're not

1758
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: going to talk about the whole card necessarily, although it's

1759
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good one on his owne this weekend for

1760
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: those who still subscribe, I do not. However, it's gonna

1761
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: be on pay per view. This is one of those

1762
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: ring cards. This is the card right there by the

1763
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: way DC Zone, Gary Antoine Russell taking on Andy Heroca,

1764
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: big big shots to him. Richardson Hitchins is in the

1765
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Comaine against Oscar Duarte, a previous, by the way, Ryan

1766
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Garcia opponent. But this main event to me is really

1767
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: really interesting. Ryan Garcia has way more athletic gifts than

1768
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: a guy like Baros. But looked, and here's the face

1769
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: off one more time. Look at how much taller at

1770
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: forty seven one seven Barrios is than Garcia. Garcia is

1771
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: usually the taller, longer guy, not necessarily going to be

1772
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: the case here against Barrios, Who's it's better that Obviously

1773
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Garcia is going to forty seven, especially since he missed

1774
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: wait against Devin Haney. Hello, but I gotta say this

1775
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: is a tried and true welterweight. That's their one forty seven.

1776
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: For the MMA fans in Barrios, here's the really strange

1777
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: part about this fight, Jed. First of all, you can

1778
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: see who's the champion here, Barrios. But Barrios is coming

1779
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: off of I think back to back draws, right, name

1780
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: the last champion you know who came off back to back.

1781
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't even fathom what the next guy would be.

1782
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: So there's that. Also, if you go back and you

1783
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: watch his Netflix fight, and this has been kind of

1784
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: a pattern, but it was especially strong. He looked good

1785
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: early in that fight and then kind of faded down

1786
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the stretch, and it's just kind of like you could

1787
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: see how that one went to a decision because he

1788
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: just kind of let the fight slip away from him. Garcia,

1789
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: on the other hand, seems to have much more fun, athletic,

1790
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: powerful tools, but hello, he looked like buns against Roly Romero,

1791
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: another title fight. The question is this, how are you

1792
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: sizing them up from a styles contrast? And more to

1793
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: the point, this is the one that really I wanted

1794
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: to focus in on, So start on this one first

1795
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: if you can. This is a little bit I know

1796
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 1: Garcia is just twenty seven. I know he's just twenty

1797
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: seven years old, but this feels a little bit like, bro,

1798
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win a world title, it needs to

1799
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: be here, because if you can't win under circumstances like this,

1800
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 1: you just can't win a world title. Fair, unfair, mostly fair.

1801
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: I mean, like, yes, he's still young, and so you

1802
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: kind of want to give him a little credence, but

1803
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 3: at that point his last five fights would be just

1804
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: a full on roller coaster mostly downs there right, like

1805
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: and so it is, yeah, And because the truth of

1806
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: the matter is like, well, we'll talk about the fight

1807
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 3: and sort of you know, I've got some thoughts I'm

1808
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: sure you do about like how how this fight might

1809
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 3: look or how dudes can win. But I think in

1810
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: the simplest terms, tell me if I'm being reductive, Luke,

1811
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 3: actually tell me if this is in my mind, if

1812
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia's head is on straight, he's going to win

1813
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 3: this fight. And the question with him, like with Rose

1814
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Nami Unis in May, is is he going to show

1815
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: up and be dialed in? Or is he going to

1816
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,520
Speaker 3: be a head case and get cooked? Because either are options,

1817
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 3: and you know, I hope we get the best Ryan

1818
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 3: Garcia because if we get that guy, I think he

1819
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 3: should put on a showcase performance. But if he doesn't,

1820
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: then it's like, okay, yeah, he hasn't won. He's had

1821
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 3: two cracks at it now, well more than two, but

1822
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: two at this weight very recently lost them both and

1823
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: he's still a head case. So why would you ever

1824
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 3: think he's going to get over the hump? And that's situation.

1825
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, A monster intriguing contest here. I will tell you.

1826
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: For me, I think that win or lose, the idea

1827
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: that Garcia would fade from combat sports relevance seems very overstated.

1828
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I'll apply that, but I will say Barrios to me,

1829
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: experienced at times, can look very good, but it seems

1830
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: like a layup as an opportunity for Garcia to get

1831
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: a title, as we mentioned, fades down the stretch. Big

1832
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: for the weight class, or not big for the weight class,

1833
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: but bigger than Garcia is for the weight class certainly.

1834
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: And you know has fought some tough competition and held

1835
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: his own, but let's fight slip away from him late

1836
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 1: and does I mean does not have the same athletic

1837
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: tools as Ryan Garcia whatsoever? This to me feels like, brother,

1838
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: you have mismanaged your career and you've had a lot

1839
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: of opportunities to get better. If you want to call

1840
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: the last one a mulligan, fine, but I actually do

1841
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 1: kind of feel like this is do or die again,

1842
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: not as a presence in boxing. No, not at all,

1843
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: maybe not even in a big fight per se. But

1844
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: as a guy who's like, oh he's gonna win a

1845
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 1: world title, he's going to be a champion for a while.

1846
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna use that to evaluate his legacy, because remember,

1847
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia had a lot to say about whether or

1848
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 1: not Triple G was a Hall of Famer. That was like, brother, Okay,

1849
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: I mean I make comments about people who have achieved

1850
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: in any ways I don't even compete in. But it

1851
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: was a little to be like the string. He was

1852
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: very stingy with Triple G. And it's like, if we

1853
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: apply the same rubric to your career, who are you?

1854
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: Who are you? I think this is majorly consequential for

1855
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: how the boxing world treats him after Saturday personally.

1856
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 3: But have you considered that if he does lose, perhaps

1857
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 3: he could go win the ZUFA title. You know, we

1858
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 3: gotta new tunnel out the Luke.

1859
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: They have a one division.

1860
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, why not do it? They could do it.

1861
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 3: Plus you know what, then Ryan Garcia could say whatever

1862
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 3: he want because Dana White believes in free.

1863
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Speech, So yeah, heaven there yes, Ultimate Ultimate Slurring Championship

1864
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: is that where you can go we do oh. Garcia says, okay,

1865
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: we have it. We have a clip here. I want

1866
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: to react to it. Garcia believes he kind of knows

1867
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: what Barrios is is gonna do. Let's watch it.

1868
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 7: I was definitely I've said this before. I think it's

1869
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 7: an adventage for me. I definitely know how he's training.

1870
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 7: I know all those speedbag drills when you hit it,

1871
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 7: uh yeah, yeah damn, and then the little bag work

1872
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 7: where you gotta go like this, you know, all day long.

1873
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 7: So I know exactly how he's training, and I know

1874
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,440
Speaker 7: how I could train even better because I've trained exactly

1875
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 7: how Joe and I've done everything Joe is asked as

1876
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 7: well when I was in there. So and Joe knows

1877
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 7: I'm a hell of a runner. I don't think there's

1878
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 7: any fire that could run better than me. Uh you know,

1879
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 7: row workwise, So he knows I could push it and

1880
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 7: I could be a mean motherfucker, and you know, come

1881
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 7: Saturday night, I'm gonna be a mean motherfucker.

1882
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this. He does not strike me as an

1883
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: especially thoughtful guy. However, I do think that if you

1884
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: get Garcia with an edge dude, there's a world, and

1885
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, there's a world where he looks like

1886
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: trash on Saturday, like genuinely, like, how did anyone ever

1887
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 1: think this guy is good? That's one possibility, and I.

1888
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 2: Don't think it's a world.

1889
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't think it's even distant from he

1890
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: wipes Barrios out in three you know what I mean?

1891
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: I absolutely think that that is you're facing it, Brios.

1892
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: What would you say, is Barrios's signature punch other than

1893
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: the jab? And I don't know what the answer to

1894
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: that would be, whereas left hook fucking.

1895
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Larry maybe, But I mean, like it's the Jeb. We'll see,

1896
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 3: his game is the jab and that's like what he

1897
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 3: has to bring to the table. But yeah, like he doesn't.

1898
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: Nothing after that is like.

1899
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: Scary, you know that being said, if he gets the win,

1900
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, you saw Devin Haney being hugely redemptive in

1901
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: his last contest. Garcia would become a champion here, He'd

1902
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: still be just twenty seven. It would be proof of concept,

1903
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: it would be major for him. Barrios, I feel like

1904
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: people didn't expect him to be in this place anyway.

1905
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: So if he loses it. It's more like a return

1906
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: to normal. So there is to me, really the all

1907
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: eyes on Ryan Garcia, because the upside is significant and

1908
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: then the downside to me is significant in ways that

1909
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: it's really not the case at all for four or

1910
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: for Mario Barrios.

1911
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean this is but that's kind

1912
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, that's sort of the texture of this fight,

1913
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 3: and a lot of Ryan Garcia fights in general. You know,

1914
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 3: he is the A side despite walking first.

1915
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, I'll put the cart up one more

1916
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: time long island. As you can see here, Richardson Hitchens

1917
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: is a favorite over Oscar Duarte, Gary Antoine Russell a

1918
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: pretty decent favorite minus three fifty according to our friends

1919
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: at DraftKings over Andy Heroca. Frank Martin, who came off

1920
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: a big win over Ran says Barthelmy, who has stunk

1921
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: up the joint more times than I could even count.

1922
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: I loved it when he flat in. That guy. He's

1923
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: back minus three ninety verses. They're all bright and then

1924
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: the Beck the bully is here against Senna, I beco

1925
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: and Beck is a huge favorite at minus fourteen hundred.

1926
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I tried to interview Frank Martin like, I'm not even kidding,

1927
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: like maybe seven or eight times, and he'd be like, oh, yeah,

1928
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm coming, I'm coming, and then he would just not

1929
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 1: show up. And his nickname is the Ghost. It's like, yeah,

1930
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I think I know why they call you that now, Frank,

1931
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: I think I know what. I swear to God that

1932
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: we went through I'm not kidding at least half a

1933
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 1: dozen attempts, and every time he'd be like, oh my bad,

1934
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was a you know sometime that if

1935
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: you look at the text chain, clearly we never said

1936
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: it was. He'd be like, oh, I thought we're gonna

1937
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: do this at six. It's like it's like one pm.

1938
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 3: You know, whatever, your personal failings, and there are many

1939
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 3: you've always been pretty clear about, like when I'm gonna

1940
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: be on a shower or something, so.

1941
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: Bro people don't know. And this is true of MMA

1942
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 1: fighters and boxers. You can have a conversation with them

1943
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: or their manager being like, Okay, you're gonna be on

1944
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: at noon. You'll even say twelve pm ET right twelve

1945
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Standard time zone, and they'll find a way

1946
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: to fuck that up. It's like amazing that Ariel gets

1947
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: away with it the way that he does, because he

1948
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: makes that look way easier than it actually is. All right,

1949
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: putting that to the side, let's finish off here with

1950
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: our MMA hits and misses.

1951
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 3: Just some wait wait, wait, wait, who are you picking?

1952
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 3: Are you picking Garcia?

1953
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 1: When man.

1954
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 3: Man given like how big a better favorite Ryan Garcia

1955
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 3: is that you were in the level of like the

1956
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 3: terror zone figuring it out.

1957
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll probably go slightly in Garcia. But I mean, if

1958
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: he looks anything like how he looked at the at

1959
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: the Times Square fight, He's gonna get smoked, you know

1960
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1961
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm boldly picking him. Body shot, knockout, left truck to

1962
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: the body.

1963
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: Oh nice, fair enough, all right, top of number five.

1964
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: Let's do MM hits and misses. Just some uh you know,

1965
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: some some smaller stories from around the combat sports world.

1966
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: We'll go through these here pretty quickly. Game Bred FC

1967
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: has announced a sixteen man bare knuckle MMA tourney. This

1968
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: will take place in the Dominican Republic and it's got

1969
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: at least a couple of familiar names. Anthony Smith is

1970
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: going to fight Chase Sherman in this fight, as well

1971
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: as Mohammed Husman, who just got cut from UFC, taking

1972
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 1: on Gutto Inosentia, who acted at one point was actually

1973
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: a pretty good kickboxer. How are you feeling about a

1974
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: d R sixteen man game, bread FC Bare Knuckle Tourney?

1975
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 3: Dude, I love this. I'm I'm an old school Ticko fan, right,

1976
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 3: like if you put attorney in, I'm in barre Knuckle.

1977
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 3: MMA is like it hasn't been a lot of it,

1978
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 3: but I'm interested in it, sort of as like its

1979
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 3: own offshoot weirdo thing too occasionally enjoy not to be

1980
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 3: like the focus of a fandom. There are some names

1981
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: that I know, and tournament structures are easy to like

1982
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 3: because like, Okay, these guys fight until they fight each other,

1983
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 3: and so I don't have to like think about it

1984
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: too much. Is this the best of them man in

1985
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: the world? Of course not, but you've got the legend

1986
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 3: Anthony Smith going in, and so like, yeah, I'm gonna watch. Sure,

1987
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 3: why not?

1988
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 2: Game? Brad good on you listen.

1989
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: Exotic places, fucked up rule sets, questionable authenticity. This is

1990
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: that's real, MMA, that's real, that's them I grew up on. Yeah,

1991
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: this is people think that UFC is real. MMA. No,

1992
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: this shiit this this crazy ass ship. I will say

1993
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: this about Anthony Smith. I don't quite understand what he's doing.

1994
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Chase Sherman, I think you know, he's what all these

1995
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: guys are. Whatever ability you want to, you can correctly

1996
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: place that. Anthony I think achieved a lot more, but

1997
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, the body language in the last few fights.

1998
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I just didn't really love and I thought he retired

1999
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: a little late, to be honest, but certainly thank God

2000
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 1: that he did. I don't love this return for him.

2001
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: I've always kind of liked Anthony, and I still do,

2002
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: but I don't really get what.

2003
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2004
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Does he need money, I don't know. I don't know

2005
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: what this did.

2006
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 3: You hear him talk about it. So he posted a

2007
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 3: video a couple of days ago or I did whatever

2008
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 3: to his YouTube. He didn't like go into super detail,

2009
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: but the rough thing is like, hey, I retired, why

2010
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: am I back? And he gives you some longer story,

2011
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 3: but the crux of it was before he was going

2012
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 3: to fight Magnunannklaiev, he was almost at the end of

2013
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 3: his contract and he was talking to game Bread about

2014
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 3: doing something with them. He re signs with the UFC,

2015
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: finishes out his career, and he retires and he's like,

2016
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 3: and then they called me again and I realized I

2017
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 3: retired because MMA wasn't fun. The UFC wasn't fun. I

2018
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 3: wasn't having fun. And this seems real fun. And while

2019
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 3: might not be like the best reason to do things,

2020
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate it because like, yeah, I agree, this is

2021
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 3: silly and fun and do silly fun things. So let's

2022
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 3: go lie hard for days.

2023
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you're right. Uh Dana White, excuse me?

2024
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Uh Dana White and Eddie Hearn this week had a

2025
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: uh what do you want to say? An incredible back

2026
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: and forth. Let's watch the back and forth at least

2027
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: most of the back and forth, and then I want

2028
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: you to wait on it. Let's go Dana first.

2029
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 8: And then I saw, uh, you know Eddie Hearn saying

2030
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 8: that the belt is cringing and all this stuff. I

2031
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 8: don't I don't, you know. I don't think anybody looks

2032
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 8: at Eddie Hearn says all this guy's a visionary or

2033
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 8: you know, you know, the guy's been in boxing forever.

2034
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 8: I look at him like most politicians. You've done nothing

2035
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 8: in the sport except stay in the lane and you know,

2036
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 8: play by all the rules and you know, ride right

2037
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 8: along with what's but you're you ended up becoming part

2038
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 8: of the problem is what happened. And I don't want

2039
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 8: to sit here and smash Eddie Hearn or any thing.

2040
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 8: But Eddie Hearn works for his dad, you know what

2041
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 8: I mean. He works for dad, and you know, I

2042
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 8: don't think he's come in and never had any type

2043
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 8: of vision whereas we do. And we're gonna We're gonna

2044
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 8: change the entire sport. And I understand the people who

2045
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 8: are the status quo in boxing don't like it, but

2046
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean they can't still do their thing. If

2047
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 8: your thing is as good as you think it is,

2048
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 8: and you were as good as you think you are,

2049
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 8: then do your thing.

2050
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: Good luck to you.

2051
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do my thing and they're gonna do theirs.

2052
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay, that's his statement. You can tike here for what

2053
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: it is now. Eddie's is a little long. I don't

2054
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: know if we're going to play the whole thing, but

2055
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna play most of it. Bear with us because

2056
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: this is actually really worth hearing. Here's Eddie Hearn's response,

2057
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 1: don't know why.

2058
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, Josh Barry Hearn's son, We've got what did

2059
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 9: he take a month to allow him to get baby? Well,

2060
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 9: that's I mean, that's a sick mon for one. I

2061
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 9: don't know what the fuck he was talking about there.

2062
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 9: That's quite quite disturbing, if I'm honest with you, it's

2063
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 9: very strange. Because I've got to be honest with you.

2064
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say up my ass. But Dane has always

2065
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 9: been so complimentary about us as a company and me

2066
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 9: as a promoter. But to say that I don't have

2067
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 9: any vision, it's really strikes strange. I mean, right now,

2068
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 9: when you talk about Zuffa's or wherever it's cooled, when

2069
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 9: you talk about their vision, what's her vision?

2070
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: What getting Max.

2071
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 9: Kellerman to tell everyone that Callum Walsh's the next Roy Jones,

2072
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 9: or putting Charles Martin on a headline show on a

2073
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 9: Sunday night in front of one hundred and twenty six

2074
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 9: people in your garage in a ring that looks like

2075
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 9: you've just got it out of a local club show.

2076
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 9: I'm all sort of fucking visions at our best. Oh

2077
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 9: oh no, no, here's a belt. It's uppun Look at

2078
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,879
Speaker 9: the vision. That's not vision, that's control. Because the reality

2079
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 9: is when he says we can't compete. They can't compete

2080
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 9: in this cutthroat world of boxing because it's a horrible

2081
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:00,839
Speaker 9: world and they don't.

2082
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,799
Speaker 1: Want to compete. They want to create their own world.

2083
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 9: But listen at the moment when you compare Mattrium shows

2084
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 9: to ZUFA shows, quite frankly, ZUFFA shows are absolute complete dogshit.

2085
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 9: But they're going to get better and they're going to

2086
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 9: sign some big fighters and they're going to spunk some money.

2087
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 9: They're going to waste some money.

2088
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: I've said it before.

2089
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 9: They're clever people, but right now they're trying to manipulate

2090
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,759
Speaker 9: fight fans and they don't understand how intelligent fight fans

2091
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 9: are when it comes to boxing. You can't create these

2092
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 9: cards and tell everyone it's the best, feed the best,

2093
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 9: because it's quite frankly not. And the reality is, yes,

2094
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 9: I do work for my dad, but.

2095
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Guess what dad.

2096
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 9: Dana White has worked for his daddy for a long time.

2097
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 9: The Fatisa Brothers, that's who he worked for. And right

2098
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 9: now Dana White's got a new daddy and his name

2099
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 9: is Turk outa Shak, Turkey Olla Shake.

2100
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 2: He's Dana White's puppy.

2101
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, there's more to it, but We're just gonna call

2102
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: it a day there, jed who got the best of

2103
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: who to.

2104
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 3: The they both got it right. I guess I'm going

2105
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 3: to side with Dana and in a micro sense, In

2106
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 3: a micro sense, Eddie is absolutely correct, right, Like I've

2107
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 3: watched the zuofa boxing cards their dog shit, you know,

2108
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 3: like this is yes, Dana White claims a vision, Dana

2109
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 3: had vision. I'm not here to say he didn't, But

2110
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 3: Dana's vision seeks had nothing. Nothing would have happened without

2111
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 3: the fertidas and a shitload of luck. By the way,

2112
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 3: like if I had billion dollar friends who would just

2113
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 3: give me money, I might be more successful than being

2114
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 3: on your fucking show on a Friday afternoon, you know. So,

2115
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 3: like Eddie's right about those things, like that's that is correct, Dana.

2116
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 3: I think it's hilarious that Dana's like Eddie's a loser,

2117
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 3: look at him playing by the rules, like who plays

2118
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 3: by the rules is deeply funny. But like he's also

2119
01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:01,799
Speaker 3: correct in that, like they aren't boxing is not fighting

2120
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 3: the right battle in my estimation, time will tell if

2121
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 3: I am Dana White are correct or not. But like

2122
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 3: when Eddie says they don't have vision, they want control.

2123
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 3: That is the vision. The vision is the control because

2124
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 3: if they get that in the same way they have

2125
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 3: it in this sport. And so you may not agree

2126
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 3: that that's like what vision means to you or the

2127
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 3: best like for the box.

2128
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: I disagree that that's a vision.

2129
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 3: That's not vision, the vision of controlling something. Again, like

2130
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 3: they have an end goal that they are attempting to accomplish.

2131
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: This is like giving Amazon credit for extracting wealth out

2132
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: of their customers by abusing their platform, rather than for

2133
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: creating the platform in the first place, you know what

2134
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's a very different kind of compliment

2135
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: you're giving them about what they did.

2136
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 3: I mean this not as in a I do not

2137
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 3: mean the word vision as a compliment. I mean as

2138
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: they have a goal and that goal that Eddie Hearn

2139
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 3: is dismissing as like that's not worthwhile, doesn't really matter

2140
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 3: because the end of that goal is the death of

2141
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn's business and they are not fighting that battle

2142
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 3: because well, Zoofa Cards are bad now, they are bad,

2143
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 3: they will get better and if they continue to a

2144
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 3: mass control like they did in MMA, that's going to

2145
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 3: long term be tough for boxing in my estimation. I

2146
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 3: think that there are reasons that might not work. But

2147
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 3: I I think betting against Dane and White has historically

2148
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,799
Speaker 3: been a really bad idea and has not worked out mostly,

2149
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm just cowed by it. But like, I

2150
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 3: feel like Eddie is winning the battle and losing the war.

2151
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yeah, that's that I could that

2152
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll agree with. I think certainly, I thought Eddie's points, like,

2153
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing data bick oh we had this vision.

2154
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,719
Speaker 1: It's like my opinion, like, oh, we should just control everything.

2155
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: This is a very different kind of way to imagine

2156
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:00,480
Speaker 1: boxing than it is to you know, think about boxing's

2157
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,560
Speaker 1: best interest. Although you know, certainly I can grant that

2158
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: the people who've been running boxing have also not had

2159
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: their fucking best interest whatsoever. I can I can grant

2160
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: that anyway. Point is, I'm not really caring about that,

2161
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: but saying, like, you know, he works for his dad.

2162
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 1: It's like, brother, how did you get the money to

2163
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: buy the UFC? Did you pay for that? Who paid

2164
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: for that? You know what I mean? Who financed all

2165
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: of this shit? Who financed paying for the Ultimate Fighter?

2166
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 1: Like if I had a billion dollars, baby, Jed, I'd

2167
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: be exactly the same fuck up I am now, but

2168
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: probably not right because I don't have any billionaire friends,

2169
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: and if I did, i'd be I would be spending

2170
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time with them, you know, because they

2171
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: could do shit like what are we talking about here?

2172
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: I thought that part was insane and it's like, also

2173
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 1: Turkey is the benefactor here, like you y'all all do

2174
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: what Eddie two, y'all all do what he says? Like,

2175
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: I know it's a funny, it's a funny thing, but

2176
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought Eddie's insults were a little bit.

2177
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 3: I mean, yo, he was definitely sharper and like the

2178
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 3: very yeah who won this exchange?

2179
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: Seedi?

2180
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 3: Eddie won this exchange? But like in five years is yeah.

2181
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: No, it'll be a very different where were gonna be? Yeah, no,

2182
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 1: for sure, all right, I didn't know who this guy is,

2183
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 1: and I want to be clear about it. I still

2184
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,919
Speaker 1: don't actually know who he is. But between getting slapped

2185
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: by Larry Wheels and elbowed by Tiki Gohson, did Dean

2186
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: the Great have the worst week of anyone in combat sports?

2187
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: What do you think, Jed?

2188
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 3: Dean the greats an influencer boxer. He's actually a pretty

2189
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 3: good one.

2190
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,440
Speaker 2: Like he's.

2191
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 3: I don't know how he got famous before he did

2192
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 3: boxing streamer or something I would imagine, but uh, a

2193
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 3: pretty good influencer boxer who got jawed twice in one week.

2194
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 3: This one also broke contained for my like social circle,

2195
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 3: who were like, what the ship is this? I was like, oh, yeah,

2196
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: that's an influencer box or who was talking shit about

2197
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 3: some dude's wife and they popped him. Because some people

2198
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 3: go about that in the real world. Larry Wheels. Credit

2199
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 3: to Larry, who I do think handled this better. He

2200
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 3: just smacked him right, Like, I'm actually pretty okay with

2201
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 3: slapping people. This is one of my hotter takes. But like,

2202
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 3: I think punching strangers broadly bad. Just just giving somebody

2203
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 3: a smack, just like, hey, course, correct your behavior. I'm

2204
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 3: not that opposed to that. Elbowing a dude in the

2205
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 3: head is a bit extreme from old.

2206
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Tiki Tiki dyeing his goatee at whatever age he is

2207
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 1: at this point, it's a little much. It was a

2208
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 1: great clean elbow I certainly. I mean, I'm torn on

2209
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: this one right because on the one hand, it's like

2210
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, well, to me, the Larry Wheels one is

2211
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: a little bit different because I did watch the context

2212
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: for both of them, and as I understand it, and

2213
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong about this, as I understand that the

2214
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: context of the Larry Wheels one was not only was

2215
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: Dean I'm just gonna call him Dean, I'm not gonna

2216
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: call him Dean. Correct, Dean was being not merely like

2217
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: verbally inappropriate with his wife, but like kind of trying

2218
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 1: to touch her at times, and that is when Larry

2219
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 1: smacked him. That one, to me, seems very more, much

2220
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: more defensible. The Tiki one, it was getting awkward, but

2221
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, he definitely was. I mean, I think he

2222
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: just commits a crime on camera. However, what I will

2223
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 1: say is, if there's anyone who deserves to just get

2224
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 1: routinely smacked around, it's influencers. Like I'm absolutely I'm not

2225
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna say okay with it, but definitely not gonna lose

2226
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 1: sleep jet you know what I'm saying. I'm definitely not

2227
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna lose any sleep over these fucking guys getting smacked around.

2228
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 3: That's the correct policy. Like, you can't you can't build

2229
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 3: like a system of government around things like this obviously

2230
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 3: that breaks society breaks down, But you also don't have

2231
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 3: to be like upset when somebody's talking. He gets popped

2232
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 3: for it.

2233
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I had a

2234
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: manager one time when I was working the door, we

2235
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: had like violency rupped like a bunch of times in

2236
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: a row, and there was a guy that was fucking

2237
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 1: with him and he always said it to me and

2238
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. He goes. If you try to fuck

2239
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: with someone, do not be surprised when you succeed. And

2240
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,839
Speaker 1: those are very because what happened. Was this a true story.

2241
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: I had a manager. He wrestled in college. He had

2242
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: like cauliflower ears and everything, and he claimed he wrestled

2243
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: Kurt Angle. He said he got smoked by him. But

2244
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 1: this was like, you know, in in in a college

2245
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 1: college of high school, one of the two. And he

2246
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 1: had a broken arm and he was I was working

2247
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 1: the door and he was working behind the bar. There's

2248
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: other people in the bar to who are working. But he, uh,

2249
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 1: he had a broken hand. So he had like a

2250
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 1: cast here all the way here, you know, and he

2251
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 1: was right handed, so he was on a cast where

2252
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: on the hand he was using, so he was a

2253
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: little slow to like grab money and you know, get

2254
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: changed and everything. And the guy was like, you know,

2255
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: banging the table, where's my money? Hurry up, I gotta go.

2256
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm trying to go as fast as I can.

2257
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: And he brings the change and the guy takes the

2258
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 1: change and he throws it in my manager's face, and

2259
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 1: the whole thing was on camera. I saw it later,

2260
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: and so they had they had to come get me

2261
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: to throw this fucking guy out. So I threw him

2262
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: out and he got a little physical at the end there,

2263
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: but there was at that point there was two or

2264
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: three of us pushing him out the door, and then whatever,

2265
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: and he wanted to fight. He challenged us to a

2266
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: bunch of shit. And then after he left, my manager

2267
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,879
Speaker 1: was like, yo, if you try to fuck with someone,

2268
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 1: do not be surprised when you succeed. Brother. All right,

2269
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: let's wrap this up here. We've got uh one more?

2270
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 1: All right, Jed, you got a weigh in. What looks

2271
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: better the new WBC new Champion chain. Take a look here.

2272
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: Eighteen point nine carrots, a vibrant emeralds. He's got forty

2273
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: grand value. They're gonna give this now to I think

2274
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: they're the champion this weekend, which of course will either

2275
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 1: be Barrios or Garcia. Do you like the crown here,

2276
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: the pendant whatever you want to call this fucking thing,

2277
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: or the new zoofa belt. Let's take a look at that.

2278
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: There's Turkey looking like a very weird person, and then

2279
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: Nick con and then Dana White. They got the belt

2280
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 1: there in the middle. All right, I'm not a bit

2281
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: jewelry guy, Jed. What's better the WBC chain or a

2282
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: dependent or the belt?

2283
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm not a jewelry guy either, but give me the pendant.

2284
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 3: Like that belt is Why do all UFC TQO belts

2285
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 3: look the same, like the UFC BJJ belt is, Like

2286
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 3: it's all just sort of formatted in a way that

2287
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 3: is deeply not to my taste. I don't know the

2288
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 3: chack can tell me if, like broadly, maybe people like

2289
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: it or they're ambivalent to it, but well, to me,

2290
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm with dependent all day.

2291
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: The pendant actually looks sick. And again I'm not a

2292
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 2: jewelry guy either, but I mean, fuck also for forty

2293
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 2: grand even if you didn't like that, go pawn that

2294
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 2: shit or something. But the zoof about zoof a belt

2295
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 2: looks more towards the BJJ belt than it does like

2296
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: gold nice like UFC belt, Like it looks too flat.

2297
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't like the way that the WBC

2298
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: belt looks either. I definitely don't like this one. What

2299
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't get is why it's an octagon or pretty

2300
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: close to one. It's like, why you can't make it

2301
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 1: a square. I understand you can't do that either because

2302
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 1: I would look well, it just looks a little weird.

2303
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, you could do it, but

2304
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: it looks a little weird. I don't mind it to

2305
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: put a little a little angles to it or more

2306
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: angles to it. But I'll just say that, you know

2307
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: this sooper belt, Dude, look at his fucking belt. This

2308
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: belt is like dry as shit. It looks like fucking

2309
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 1: beef jerky that they put a belt buckle on top of.

2310
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean, just no personality to it.

2311
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, It's got no whereas has some swag. Yeah,

2312
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 1: look at the Pendent? Listen? Is this garish? Is this?

2313
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 7: You know?

2314
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: Put de Pendent on here Long Island? Is this is

2315
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: this garish? Is this a little over what I ever wear?

2316
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 7: This?

2317
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: No? But I'll say this I interviewed who was the

2318
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: guy that gave that gave Floyd a tough fight? Is

2319
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: zab Judah. I interviewed zab Judah one time and he

2320
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 1: had a giant red glove that was completely iced out

2321
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: and he walked around. I'm like, you know what you

2322
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: he's walking around media day. I'm like, this is the

2323
01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: perfect fucking jewelry for a boxing media day. When you're

2324
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 1: doing hip hop stations and boxing podcast that's who typically

2325
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: goes to boxing media days. You know, give me the

2326
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 1: WBC pendant all day, all day, absolutely day. All right, Well,

2327
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: that that is our top five. We went a little

2328
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: bit long with this, in part because Jed has the

2329
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Internet from a nearby Wendy's. But Long Island's got some

2330
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: games for us Long, I'll take it away.

2331
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: Do you still want to do both, Luke or time wise?

2332
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: You want to just now what do we have on

2333
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: the docket?

2334
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 2: So we got ranked that card which everyone knows and loves.

2335
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna rank three fighters on the card

2336
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 2: based on the question.

2337
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: I give it.

2338
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 2: We can skip that if you want and just do

2339
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: the new segment. Better call y'all, let's skip that one.

2340
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: Let's do better call y'all. All right, So there's a

2341
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 2: new segment. Better call y'all the number you have dialed.

2342
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 2: All right. So the way this works is I'm gonna

2343
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 2: present you guys with a scenario, and you're gonna tell

2344
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 2: me who you would call in that situation. I'll give

2345
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: you three options for each one. They all have a

2346
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 2: little context behind them, So lt eure up first. You

2347
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 2: obviously know you love Latin foods. In fact, your wife

2348
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 2: actually purchased those metaglasses recently and she wore them out

2349
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 2: on a dinner day. Here's here's the footage we got.

2350
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I have a question. Does the hamon m to drink?

2351
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 10: Maybe an alma tresca yaro. I'm struggling to choose between

2352
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 10: the tortilla soup and the basoni For breakfast, I have

2353
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 10: webbos Pancho's. You went torso and didn't even tell me. Careful,

2354
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 10: don't fill up on the tips in sisa. I do

2355
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 10: love a good picoo, though. How do I feel about postadas?

2356
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 7: Leave them?

2357
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,839
Speaker 10: I like when they break? Does that come with the chicao?

2358
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 10: I haven't had on pastor in a minute? That sounds delicious?

2359
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 10: What about some mariscos are some cevicha. I think I'm

2360
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 10: actually gonna go with a pacifico. You know they make

2361
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 10: those in Masaan, right.

2362
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 3: Right, So now that picture of your dumb ass grin

2363
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 3: is great.

2364
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, fuck you both. Number one.

2365
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Let me just say that number two. I can't win.

2366
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 1: I can't win. And here's why. Because if I just say, oh,

2367
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna have the Cocola limon nada right

2368
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 1: to drink, you guys won't say anything, but my wife

2369
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: will here then and be like, oh do you want

2370
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the Coco limo nada? You know what I mean, I

2371
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,040
Speaker 1: get fucking roasted by her. Or if I say nada,

2372
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: then you idiots come over.

2373
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 2: I can't win.

2374
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 3: I can't win.

2375
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess you got to pick your audience. You know

2376
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 2: your wife's not really here right now, so.

2377
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Maybe now, right now, it's just Coco limo nada.

2378
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 2: There you go. But Luke, imagine a scenario. Now You're

2379
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,839
Speaker 2: at your favorite Mexican restaurant. You really want to impress

2380
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 2: them with your pronunciations, but you've lost your voice. So

2381
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 2: who are you calling to order Mexican on your behalf?

2382
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, Aaron Bronstadter no, or Jake von Amsterdam tried

2383
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 2: to pick the three people in your opinion?

2384
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 1: All right, love a bron but he's no is the answer.

2385
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: I need people who can at least fake it. So

2386
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 1: the question you have to ask yourself is who would

2387
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 1: do a better Mexican accent or vaguely Hispanic accent. Jake

2388
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: von Amsterdam, who could be the whitest man alive? Or

2389
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell the second whitest man alive. But they're both

2390
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 1: by Yasso's You know what, I'm gonna go Jake von Amsterdam,

2391
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why because he might actually

2392
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 1: do a worse job than Brian. But Brian is gonna

2393
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 1: sound intentionally racist as he does it, whereas Jake von

2394
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 1: Amsterdam will sound accidentally racist, you know what I mean,

2395
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: He'll he'll just he'll fill stumble into it and be like, oh,

2396
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 1: he just doesn't know any better, you know.

2397
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 2: No, Well, just a lot like how Jake just pulled

2398
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 2: out the English accent out of nowhere on us. I

2399
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 2: feel like Jake would pull out a Spanish accent, we'd

2400
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 2: all be like, well, he's great, and.

2401
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 1: He's and he's harmless, whereas with BC you'd be like

2402
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:55,879
Speaker 1: you said, a little.

2403
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 2: Sinister with it, you know, you see, would also naturally

2404
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 2: have to crack jokes at the way.

2405
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and then they wouldn't laugh and it would

2406
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: get worse from me.

2407
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go, all right, Jed, you're up next.

2408
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: Have you ever had fish and chips? Jed? Of course, okay,

2409
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know, you know, as non or as Americans,

2410
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, not everyone has had it. I'm a big fan,

2411
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 2: and when I saw this challenge, it got me thinking, Jed,

2412
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 2: who are you calling to help you finish this fish

2413
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: and chip platter? Dennis from Submission Radio not even gonna

2414
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 2: try and butcher? His last name? Oscar Willis or Mick Maynard appropose.

2415
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on a second. How many pounds of fish?

2416
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 2: Is this a shitload? I didn't see. If it's fish,

2417
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 2: it's a it's a full baget.

2418
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: They look like they have large mouthed bass that they

2419
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: fucking fried on a bed of fries and a tub

2420
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: of mashed peas.

2421
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and are you calling the Australian Dennis, the Englishman

2422
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Oscar or the other Australian Mick Maynard to come help

2423
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 2: you finish?

2424
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to be super clear here. Have

2425
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 3: you seen me? Why do I need assistance to finish that?

2426
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 1: I could?

2427
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 3: I could put a pretty good dentt in that on

2428
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 3: my own.

2429
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's two grown men doing it here, so

2430
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 2: clearly it's a two person challenge.

2431
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's a two person challenge.

2432
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 3: Those are cowards. They can't. I'm not a weak man.

2433
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 2: Who do you want to invite to watch you eat it?

2434
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 3: I mean, give me if honestly this is actually perfect

2435
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 3: because one you take the Englishman anyway, give me Oscar.

2436
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 3: This is this is the food.

2437
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,440
Speaker 1: Of his people.

2438
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the this is this is his birthright.

2439
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 2: So key to that. So US Aussies, yes, us love

2440
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 2: fish and chips, bro, I mean it may.

2441
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 3: Have been because you are from England, which the food

2442
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 3: of your people.

2443
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 2: I'd argue better fish and chips in Australia, just saying

2444
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 2: had both been to London been to us?

2445
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 3: I mean, no one's going to argue that the food

2446
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 3: anywhere other outside of England is better than that's.

2447
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 1: Actually do The national food of England is dog food.

2448
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: That's a true fact.

2449
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 2: Another good point, all right.

2450
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, give me the Oscar. He can hammer beers

2451
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 3: beside me. And then inappropriately hit on the waitress.

2452
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. All right, sounds like a

2453
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 2: good time. All right, Eltie, back to you. Uh, you

2454
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 2: and your wife obviously enjoy going to see shows. Well,

2455
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 2: I've got good news for you. Bert Kreischer is coming

2456
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 2: to town, baby, and he's hooking you up. Eltie, you

2457
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:26,959
Speaker 2: and a guest for backstage passes, all you can eat vouchers,

2458
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 2: all you can drink vouchers, and a bag of Delta

2459
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 2: eight's bigger than Bert's belly. Unfortunately, Missus Thomas will be

2460
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 2: out of town that week, So who are you calling

2461
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 2: to accompany you to the Burt show? The caveat is

2462
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 2: you can only talk about the comedy show Option A

2463
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 2: Mikey Mormle, Option b Ray Flores, and Option C Joe Rogan.

2464
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, for context, Mikey Mormile, huge, Bert Kreischer fan

2465
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,200
Speaker 2: bayflor Hey floor is so random. But we know he

2466
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 2: loves Haws Bula, so I feel like, naturally he'd probably

2467
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 2: love Bert's comedy. And then Joe Rogan obviously boys with Bert.

2468
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 2: But you can only talk about the comedy, so you know,

2469
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 2: some people might choose Joe to to ask him interesting

2470
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: questions you can't do that. You gotta just do that comedy.

2471
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: Holy fuck. Probably Mikey. Probably Mikey, because a I like Mikey.

2472
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 1: That's important. I like Ray Flores and you know, just whatever,

2473
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 1: but I like the you know, I like Mikey, so

2474
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: that's important. And second of all, as the show descended

2475
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 1: inevitably into the dumbest shit you've ever seen in your life,

2476
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 1: I know Mikey well enough where I could spend some

2477
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 1: time insulting him without completely really the relationship, whereas with

2478
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Ray I don't have that kind of thing, and certainly

2479
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 1: with Joe I do not as well, although it would

2480
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: be also nice to insult whoever would be next to me.

2481
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: But I'll go with Mikey because I can. I can

2482
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: have a good time with Mikey, and I can also

2483
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:13,919
Speaker 1: be a little bit mean to him, and that's important

2484
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: to me.

2485
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 2: That's fair. I think I would pick Mikey as well,

2486
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 2: So you know, solid, solid choice there, all right, Jed

2487
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 2: back to you.

2488
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 1: But again, if the choice was like, oh, do you

2489
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: have to go to the Burt Kreischer Show or to

2490
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: watch your family burned alive? I'm going to take the ladder.

2491
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 2: Every time, just so that's clear, all right, all right,

2492
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 2: well Jesus Christ, Jed, can you hear us right now?

2493
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you look like you're struggling, Jed.

2494
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:36,400
Speaker 1: Are you there?

2495
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, okay, So, Jeded, we obviously know you love

2496
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 2: a good climb. For those of you not familiar, Jed,

2497
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 2: BET's one hundred dollars on a bet he likes. Sometimes

2498
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 2: he'll parlay him together, as this graphic shows, and he'll

2499
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 2: roll over the winnings into the next bet until one

2500
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 2: day he reaches his goal with Jed, I believe is

2501
02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, thirty successful clim bets, okay,

2502
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 2: thirty successful climbats. It's in the tens of thousands of dollars.

2503
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 2: It's a shipload of money.

2504
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 3: If we pay it out correctly, it should be somewhere

2505
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 3: near twenty five grand.

2506
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 2: There you go. But it got me thinking, Jed, of

2507
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 2: all these fighters in the past that have have ruined

2508
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 2: the climb for you. So my question to you is this,

2509
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 2: who are you calling to help you climb this mountain?

2510
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 2: Kevin Holland, Daniel zell Huber or a Tiba Gautier for context,

2511
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 2: All three of these people have ruined your climb bet before, Jed,

2512
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 2: did we lose you? I think he's frozen, Jed, earth

2513
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,760
Speaker 2: to Jed. Look at that face. Look at that.

2514
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 1: That's the face of a man who That's the face

2515
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 1: of a man who didn't pay his internet bill. That's

2516
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: what that is. All right?

2517
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Eltie. You want to just do

2518
02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 2: another one with you? What we want?

2519
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: What we want to keep it roll?

2520
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 2: Alright, Let's just do another one, all right, Eltie? Imagine

2521
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 2: a world. It's it's not your favorite world, but just

2522
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 2: imagine this world. All right. Wait, Jed's back, Jed's back.

2523
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

2524
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 3: We made it for so long.

2525
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 2: That's all right, Jed. You probably didn't hear it. But uh,

2526
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 2: who are you calling to help you climb this mountain?

2527
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 2: Kevin Holland, Daniel zell Huber or a Tiba Gautier.

2528
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 3: Wow, so you just picked all people who fucked me?

2529
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 2: Yes, so you froze before. So I had to explain

2530
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 2: that to the awkward silence of the audience. But yes,

2531
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 2: that's it.

2532
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Kevin Holland feels a teape of got is

2533
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 3: just too too jacked to climb mountains. That feels like

2534
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 3: right like he's just as a dense man. Kevin Holland

2535
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 3: feels the most like Alex Hanald. He's got like long

2536
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 3: limbs and feel like he's going to be the best

2537
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 3: Spider Man equivalent for me.

2538
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 2: Here see I'm going to Tiba, but sorry LT back

2539
02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 2: to you. Imagine this world. You are happily married to

2540
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 2: Cake Lady, Luke God, you can afford to eat money

2541
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 2: because she's raking so much of it in Everything is

2542
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 2: going smooth for a few years, but you do begin

2543
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 2: to grow tired of the whole cake gimmick. One day

2544
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 2: you're anxiously awaiting a package from Tula Trees, only to

2545
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 2: find out it is indeed also, so, who are you

2546
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 2: calling to help you dispose of Cake Lady's body after

2547
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 2: that turned out to be Cake? Is it a George?

2548
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 2: Corpse grinder? B Tito Ortez because he's so damn good

2549
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 2: at digging those graves. And three you have to go

2550
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 2: combat sports John Gotti. The third.

2551
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: Well was choice number one corpse grinder. Corpse grinder See

2552
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 1: corpse grinder is actually like.

2553
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 2: A good dude, implies you.

2554
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Know, yes, well George is his name, but uh, you

2555
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 1: gotta go, oh Gotti on this one, right. I mean,

2556
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what his training in this environment is,

2557
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 1: but it's partly genetic. Right, He's got a little bit

2558
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 1: of a family tradition, you know what I'm saying. So

2559
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 1: I would go with him, and I got to tell

2560
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 1: you that was exactly the right call. The first person

2561
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm calling is the human exterminator. I don't know who

2562
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 1: that is, but I'm finding one. I'm finding one, guys

2563
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 1: getting her the fuck out of my life. Let's just

2564
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: put it that way.

2565
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 3: Whatever you do, don't go with Tito. Tito will absolutely

2566
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 3: inadvertently tell somebody that you did this.

2567
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: Dude. I bet if you showed the cake lady to Tito,

2568
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get it. He's like, so she's eating furniture.

2569
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 1: It's like, no, No, it's a cake. Though, he'd be like no,

2570
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 1: but she looked like she's eating the remote control. Tito's

2571
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: it's a cake.

2572
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like, so this is cake. And jed

2573
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 2: over to you. Now, we know you love the Georgia Bulldogs,

2574
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 2: and we've seen you throw a few drinks back on

2575
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 2: a pregame preview there, so you know we know you're

2576
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 2: into it. I saw this man at a Georgia Bulldogs

2577
02:08:56,320 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 2: game wearing this vest with a connected to it where

2578
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 2: he just pours beers out of it. He says he

2579
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 2: does this for every game. Judging by how much came

2580
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 2: out of it for the one beer, I'm going to

2581
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:11,120
Speaker 2: estimate this holds about twelve beers. So my question to

2582
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 2: you is, who are you calling to help you finish

2583
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 2: this before the first quarter ends?

2584
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:20,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you got a pre game in the parking lot? Mother?

2585
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we're talking. We're talking kickoff to first quarter,

2586
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 2: so fifteen minutes time. Oh, I guess college football's haves

2587
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 2: right or is it quarters? No? They do quarters a

2588
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 2: cool cool So first quarter? Who are you picking? Donald?

2589
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys SERRONI tie to Avasa or Carlos Pratis.

2590
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:43,480
Speaker 3: I mean, protests would be a great call for a

2591
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 3: lot of things, and certainly if I had, just like

2592
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 3: a if I had to also burn down a pack

2593
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 3: of reds, but not do it that you didn't mention that.

2594
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't think you can go wrong with either of them.

2595
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 3: I will. I will give the slight edge to Donald

2596
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 3: Seroni over ty tooo Vasa because I suspect that being

2597
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 3: a Georgia football game, that that is America's finest bud

2598
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 3: light in that jacket, and that feels more cowboy speed

2599
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 3: right like Ty to e Vasa, he's probably drinking Fosters,

2600
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 3: So give me, give me cowboy.

2601
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 1: See, let me ask the question, who was it was?

2602
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 1: It was Seroni to Vasa? What was the third? One?

2603
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 2: Protest?

2604
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 1: Dude, you gotta go protest or too Evasa on this one.

2605
02:10:27,160 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 2: I'd be worried Tie would drink too, Like we're trying

2606
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 2: to split it, like Ty is gonna drink like ten

2607
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 2: when I'm drinking two, and it's gonna be like, well, sick, bro,

2608
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 2: you drink all the See.

2609
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 1: The problem with partying with a guy like Tie is

2610
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 1: not that there's never enough beer. I have to I

2611
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: have to warn you. That's not really the problem. The

2612
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 1: problem in the stadium is now, Yeah, the problem is

2613
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: are you going to get in the fist fight while

2614
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 1: defecating on yourself? That's that's the issue with with with

2615
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: drinking with.

2616
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 2: T Protest also a known like shot guy, So I'm like,

2617
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 2: does he drink beers like that? I don't know. He

2618
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 2: seems like a cool hang, Yeah, he does seem like cool.

2619
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 3: They also definitely would be the coolest hang, which I

2620
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 3: told you.

2621
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:04,320
Speaker 1: The story a million times. Sorry to cut you off, Je,

2622
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: I've said so so w E C brought Serroni to

2623
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 1: my studio when I was a serious XM one time,

2624
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 1: and you know, he had just gave me like a

2625
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 1: really terrible interview. I mean it wasn't the worst thing ever,

2626
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 1: but you know, he just didn't care to be there.

2627
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:17,160
Speaker 1: And then, uh, they were doing a media tour and

2628
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 1: this was like in the afternoon, so they were not

2629
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 1: flying home that day where they were going to go,

2630
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, do something else the next day. And as

2631
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 1: soon as the MIC's turned off, Serroni turns to me,

2632
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:28,520
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, man, where's the where's the It was

2633
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,880
Speaker 1: either the nearest or the best. I'll just say nearest.

2634
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: He goes, where was Where's the nearest titty bar? And

2635
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, okay, You're like, oh,

2636
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm a member. It's actually around the corner. Say my

2637
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:41,200
Speaker 1: name at the door.

2638
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 3: Top of I gotta tell you that's a man who

2639
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:46,440
Speaker 3: would thrive with twelve beers the ug football game.

2640
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean certainly that would be true.

2641
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 2: That is true. All right, LT back to you, Uh

2642
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 2: picture this, You're at a bar in the Dominican Republic. Right, OK,

2643
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 2: some guy has been eyeing you all night. He wants

2644
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 2: to give into some friendly conversation, so you finally do.

2645
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you wake up. You're in a

2646
02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 2: hotel room. You're still not sure how you got there,

2647
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 2: your dreary eyed, you stumble around for your glasses. You

2648
02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 2: find the balcony, ready to make your escape, and you

2649
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 2: see this. Who are you calling to come help you

2650
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 2: get out of the d R without getting arrested? So

2651
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 2: you know you don't want to get too physical, You

2652
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 2: don't want to get arrested here, and you don't want

2653
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:29,160
Speaker 2: someone who's gonna maybe say the wrong thing do the

2654
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 2: wrong thing in public. So here are your three choices.

2655
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia, who we know, isn't you know, says a

2656
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:38,520
Speaker 2: lot of words that you know might get in trouble.

2657
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland, who same exact fucking thing. And BJ Penn,

2658
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:47,120
Speaker 2: who can't seem to stay out of a jail cell.

2659
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 2: So who are you calling to keep you out of

2660
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 2: jail here and escape from the strange man in the DR?

2661
02:12:56,160 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 1: I brother, you gave me no. I mean, I think

2662
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm cooked. I think that's the I think that's the answer.

2663
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't think this girl. I think I'm I think

2664
02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm finished. I think I'm finished.

2665
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia is the answer.

2666
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 1: How is Ryan Garcia? The how is that guy you

2667
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 1: call in a pinch?

2668
02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 2: If this is Ryan Garcia leading up to the Devin

2669
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:21,160
Speaker 2: Hainey fight, I might have changed my mind. But like

2670
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 2: where he's at today, I think he could keep it

2671
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 2: together for six hours to come at me. Strickland not

2672
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,000
Speaker 2: only would show up with guns, he'd be fucking yelling

2673
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 2: at each Brett. He'd be fighting everyone. We're one hundred

2674
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:34,440
Speaker 2: percent going to jail.

2675
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess it is Ryan Garcia. But then I

2676
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: would just kick them both off the balcony.

2677
02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:40,960
Speaker 2: And you know, well, I guess you could have done

2678
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 2: that yourself. But all right, Uh, Jed will go back

2679
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 2: to you here. Uh picture this, Jed. You're on a

2680
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 2: date with Valentina's Chivchenko and she insists you try these

2681
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 2: weird Kurzikstani gummies. You're not really sure what they are.

2682
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 2: Right next thing you know, you're tripping ball sack and

2683
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,720
Speaker 2: one thing leads to another. You end up behind bars.

2684
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:06,720
Speaker 2: The only recollection of that night that you have is

2685
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 2: the cops body cam footage shown here. Jesus, So who

2686
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 2: are you calling to bail you out of the Kurzikstani jail?

2687
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:24,320
Speaker 2: Mike Heck, Jose Young's or Alexander.

2688
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 3: Kaylee Man Kurzikstani jails does not sound like a.

2689
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 1: Good time, y'all? Ever seen that show Locked up Abroad? Yes, bros,

2690
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm good on that.

2691
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 3: I shut up by the time they got to me,

2692
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm definitely dead. I don't imagine I do very well

2693
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 3: in normal prison, much less Kirkgistani prison.

2694
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:47,320
Speaker 7: Uh.

2695
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 3: Give me hose A Young. He's a well traveled man.

2696
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:52,520
Speaker 3: He's probably been to Kurzikstan at some point, so that's true.

2697
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 2: He probably he'd have the miles to get there for free,

2698
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 2: so you'd be in good hands there, all right, Elsie

2699
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 2: asked one for you. It's early. May you decide this

2700
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,760
Speaker 2: card is too damn big to just do a watch

2701
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 2: along on your YouTube. You instead need to invite one

2702
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 2: good friend over for a watch party. A card of

2703
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 2: this magnitude deserves your full attention. So who are you

2704
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:25,000
Speaker 2: calling to come watch Rousey Krona with you? The caveat

2705
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:28,440
Speaker 2: here is you can only talk about the fight itself

2706
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 2: and things related to the fight. Your choices are Travis Brown,

2707
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:41,040
Speaker 2: Dana White, or Brendan shab So you know, no other

2708
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 2: questions to ask any of them?

2709
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Sho I go shop?

2710
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, No, no questions, I asked, You're going shop?

2711
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I'd have much

2712
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 1: camaraderie with Brown. I'm not really interested in Dana White's

2713
02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:02,320
Speaker 1: opinion on much of anything, and you know I don't.

2714
02:16:02,440 --> 02:16:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see eye to eye with Brendan all

2715
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 1: the time, but I've known him for quite a while

2716
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 1: and I think it'd be a smoother conversation if I

2717
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,720
Speaker 1: was chilling with the b Shop. I'll say I'll pick Shop.

2718
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,680
Speaker 2: All right, great guy, I never met him, Jed. Last

2719
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:20,960
Speaker 2: one for you, Uh picture this. You get denied a

2720
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:25,160
Speaker 2: credential for the UFC White House Card because of your

2721
02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 2: atrocious criminal record.

2722
02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, fucking reprobate.

2723
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:32,920
Speaker 2: But Jed, you are in luck. The UFC is running

2724
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,760
Speaker 2: a contest for one lucky fan to sit cage shod

2725
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:38,920
Speaker 2: and you just want it. You have a choice of

2726
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 2: three famous figures to sit next to. So who are

2727
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:46,640
Speaker 2: you calling to sit next to at the White House Card?

2728
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 2: The caveat here is you can only listen to the

2729
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:54,600
Speaker 2: other person. You cannot speak whatsoever. And your three people

2730
02:16:54,680 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 2: are Connor McGregor, Dana White or Donald Trum.

2731
02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:05,279
Speaker 1: How fun with that blunt rotation.

2732
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I think he would say the least and

2733
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,080
Speaker 2: you can't talk and you just have to listen.

2734
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:16,280
Speaker 1: So you would fall asleep or something.

2735
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:19,440
Speaker 2: I just think he wouldn't have much to say, whereas Dana.

2736
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:22,720
Speaker 1: You think Donald Trump would not have much to say.

2737
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 2: In that setting. In that setting, I think Connor would be.

2738
02:17:29,480 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: In this case, Dana is the right call for me.

2739
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 3: I I mean, I think Dana actually would say the least.

2740
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. You know, we don't need to

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Speaker 3: get into the disagreements I have with Donald Trump on

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Speaker 3: his politics or whatever. He still seems like if you

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Speaker 3: can set that aside, just decent.

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Speaker 7: Hang.

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Speaker 3: You know, just like he he can make a joke

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Speaker 3: or too, be kind of funny. It might not be

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Speaker 3: that awful. So give me Donald Trump. Whereas like Dana

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Speaker 3: probably does say the least. So maybe that's the right answer.

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Speaker 3: Connor is the wrong answer.

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Speaker 2: That's I hear the rinaldo You're ass the entire time

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Speaker 2: just screaming in your ear?

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Speaker 1: Yes, close, close, talking after he's been drinking. You know,

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Speaker 1: it would be.

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Speaker 3: Kind of funny to sit there and like with Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump as he is just like a casual fan about

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Speaker 3: fistfights and being like, ah, look at him, get him

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Speaker 3: and just be.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's see. Yeah, all right, guys, Well that was better.

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Speaker 1: Call y'all.

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Speaker 2: I hope you have all right?

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Speaker 1: Very good? Uh big thanks to Long Island Luke. Let's

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Speaker 1: set this up one last time. We got merch. Go

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Speaker 1: to Morning Combat dot shop. The Army of Darkness shirt

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Speaker 1: is available, as is the poster. I did not mention

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Speaker 1: that enough at the top of the show. Plus we

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Speaker 1: have the two new evergreen items, the Morning Combat graffiti

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Speaker 1: logo and then the MK letters with DC inspired art

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Speaker 1: design there as well. Uh. Let's see, we're all over

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Speaker 1: the socials. You can see us here at bottom of

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Speaker 1: your screen. Morning Combat is everywhere. Jed k Michu is

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Speaker 1: on IG as well as X. Let's see, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a watch along tomorrow and then a post fight show

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Speaker 1: for UFC Houston. What's your coverage plan, Jed.

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Speaker 3: We've got our previews show later today, I think in

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Speaker 3: the next hour at m Fightings YouTube, so check that out,

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Speaker 3: and then we're where we not do any watch alongs,

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Speaker 3: but obviously you see Houston coverage and Garcia Barrio or

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Speaker 3: Barrio's Garcia coverage as well. Tomorrow night, you know, we'll

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Speaker 3: have the ceremonial way ins. I think this afternoon we'll

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Speaker 3: have something on, So tune in inmefighting dot com. If

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Speaker 3: you want to follow along.

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Speaker 1: Long Island, you're gonna be ignoring your girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: She's actually away this weekend, so I don't have to

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02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 2: ignore her. But new prop quiz dropping in nine minutes,

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Speaker 2: Dennis from Submission Radio taking on Mike Bond, and then

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Speaker 2: you have doing a full card watch along tomorrow five

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern UFC Houston be there or b Square.

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Speaker 1: There you go right there, and then last one not

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Speaker 1: least you can still reach the show Morning Combat at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. And I want to say it one

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Speaker 1: more time, this is not just a thing that we're

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Speaker 1: doing where it's like, uh oh, we got rid of

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Speaker 1: fan subs, we got rid of dead wrongs. No we didn't.

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Speaker 1: They're still there. We're just gonna do them a little

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Speaker 1: bit less. You know, we're not gonna do them every

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Speaker 1: single Friday, but those are still very much a part.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a dead wrong. If you have

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Speaker 1: a fansub Morningcombat at gmail dot com. All right, we

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Speaker 1: are done. That is Jed Michue. Thank you, Jed. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. For Jed, for Long Island, and everyone

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Speaker 1: else on the show. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for watching. See all tomorrow for UFC Houston, and

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Speaker 1: until next time, all of your gains be loyal.