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Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This

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Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan col Calahan. Here's

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Speaker 1: cal A California woman made the news last week for

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Speaker 1: illegally harvesting abalony and then hiding it down our pants.

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Speaker 1: The California Department of Fish and Wildlife reports that a

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Speaker 1: game warden became suspicious of the woman and her male

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Speaker 1: companion after observing them harvesting purple sea urchins in the

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Speaker 1: intertitle zone. As he watched, he observed the woman quote

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Speaker 1: discreetly conceal what appeared to be an abalony down her pants,

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Speaker 1: an unconventional storage method, especially if you're doing things legally.

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Speaker 1: But this story gets even better. If you've ever been

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Speaker 1: tasked with confiscating candy from a child, you can probably

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Speaker 1: predict what happened next. Stopped the couple and asked the

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Speaker 1: woman to produce the abalony from her nether regions. She

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Speaker 1: handed it over, but the warden was still suspicious, so

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Speaker 1: underpants poacher to produce yet another marine snail from her trousers.

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Speaker 1: Satisfied that all the snails had been accounted for. The

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Speaker 1: warden sighted the woman for illegal take of too abalony.

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Speaker 1: That might seem a little harsh, but the recreational harvest

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Speaker 1: of ablony has been closed in California since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: They were long considered a culinary delicacy and harvested up

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Speaker 1: and down the coast, but a marine heat wave between

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen decimated kel forest, which was

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Speaker 1: the main food source for ablony. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: the area saw an explosion in purple Sea urchin, which

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Speaker 1: compete with abalony for food. You can still find the

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Speaker 1: delicious snails along the coast, but you can't pick them

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Speaker 1: up at the end of the day. The only thing

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Speaker 1: more uncomfortable that an abaloni in your pants is explaining

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Speaker 1: to warden why it was there in the first place.

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Speaker 1: This week we've got bear attack, death, DC listener mail,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you about my week. And my week well, I got

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Speaker 1: walloped in a three punch combo. Let's say first off,

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Speaker 1: I had a great time in Charleston, South Carolina. Loved

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Speaker 1: everybody I met. I was down there for the Southeast

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Speaker 1: Wildlife Expo. Huge shout out to free Fly. We did

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Speaker 1: a lunch and learn series out there for back country

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Speaker 1: Hunters and Anglers. Really really cool group of folks working

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Speaker 1: sun hoodie and hat with our buddy Ed Anderson's artwork

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Speaker 1: on there. Super sharp, super functional gear and the proceeds

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Speaker 1: go to backcountry Hunters and Anglers. All of that was amazing,

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Speaker 1: great people, but you all sent me packing home with

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Speaker 1: a hell of a flu. That's punch one, Okay, now

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Speaker 1: punch two. Mike Beagle, who, among many other things and accomplishments,

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Speaker 1: is the founder of back Country Hunters and Anglers founding

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Speaker 1: organize a group of about seven people around an Oregon

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Speaker 1: to be another group out there that could speak for

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Speaker 1: public land, public water, public wildlife specifically wilderness big chunks

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Speaker 1: of BLM and do it from a land use kind

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Speaker 1: of perspective, a hunter angler land use perspective versus being

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe confined to a species specific type of perspective.

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Speaker 1: It's the only founder we'll ever have and it's because

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Speaker 1: of his forethought and thinking that PHA took off the

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Speaker 1: way it did and Mike passed away, likely of a

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Speaker 1: Guy had a giving back ethos and awareness of what

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Speaker 1: public lands and wilderness give to all of us, and

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Speaker 1: he spearheaded the organization. Punch three of the three punch

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Speaker 1: combo is My grandpa Jim, also known as Doc Callahan,

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Speaker 1: Punch one that I couldn't make it two and a

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Speaker 1: cry for me. I'd been visiting and calling him regularly,

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Speaker 1: and ninety one years is a really good run. So

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Speaker 1: permit me to eulogize a bit here. I'm just a grandchild,

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Speaker 1: so you know, not my role, but this is my show,

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Speaker 1: so I can do whatever the heck I want. Doc

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Speaker 1: In fact, He expressed to me how he couldn't hardly

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Speaker 1: in the early days of elk steadying, cowboying out on

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Speaker 1: bear encounters when they're almost were no grizzly bears left

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Speaker 1: he was aloof and frankly as a kid, he was

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Speaker 1: scarier than hell. You know, as most old folks get old,

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Speaker 1: was just larger than life. I'd say for most of

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Speaker 1: And this inact he looked to me like giving up.

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Speaker 1: Although prehistoric cultures had lots of advanced technologies stone needles

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Speaker 1: the Ernal of Anthropological Sciences, a can of counter assault

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Speaker 1: C desk, the Trump administration recently launched a new commission.

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Speaker 1: It says we'll conserve America's natural beauty and expand outdoor

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Speaker 1: recreation opportunities. The Make America Beautiful Again or MABA Commission,

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Speaker 1: have five key priorities. Balance stewardship and economic growth, Increase

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Speaker 1: Joe Webster, the Chief Conservation Officer of TRCP, called it

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Speaker 1: It'll be my first time there. Brent Reeves will be there,

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Speaker 1: Bear Newcomb will be there. I think Clay is out

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure those boys would too, So come on down,

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Speaker 1: big family friendly event and supports you know my favorite

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Speaker 1: conservation organization, back country hunters and Anglers. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: really all I got for you this week. Thank you

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