WEBVTT - 98 | Making our All-MLB Team (Hitters)

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big episode Tuesday, November sixteenth, Just Baseball Show,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack mcmull and Peter Apple. To be honest, this feels

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<v Speaker 2>like our full season recap, but individually MLB the All

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<v Speaker 2>MLB Team, right, that's going to be announced. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fill out our Just Baseball ballot for the All MLB Team.

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<v Speaker 2>This really does feel like a season in review, lauding

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<v Speaker 2>the accomplishments of the best players in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and also when we were deciding on how we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do it right, we were thinking, should

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<v Speaker 1>you have your own MLB team? And I have my

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<v Speaker 1>own and then we argue. But when you consider how

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<v Speaker 1>many players need to be talked about, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>add the arguments into it, we're looking at a five

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<v Speaker 1>hour podcast. So we saved all the arguments for the

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<v Speaker 1>pre recording and this is both of our all MLB team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very excited. I am very excited because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's more fun than this? I mean maybe giving out

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars in contracts, but also just saying who

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<v Speaker 1>was the best of twenty twenty one?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, and just paying homage to the freaks

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<v Speaker 2>that are in our game, which is very fun. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't get away with a five hour podcast. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the clout that Joe Rogan has. Also, on

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<v Speaker 2>a Joe Rogan related note, I'm getting my booster shot

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<v Speaker 2>today for the vaccine, So very excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get your shots.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel great and I cannot wear a mask in

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<v Speaker 2>bars and I feel fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the crazy thing about New York City too. Vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>passport or you're just not getting in anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you heard it Clear, No, it's clear It Clear

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<v Speaker 2>is an app that you can have like your proof

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<v Speaker 2>of vaccination on. But it's also like TSA pre Check

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<v Speaker 2>on steroids in yeah, a bunch of different airports. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the difference is. John Rothstein is

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<v Speaker 2>like the best college basketball follow on Twitter, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got one of his quick one liners where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like, you know, Chris Holtman, more meticulous at

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<v Speaker 2>a forensics officer, that type of thing. Villanova basketball has

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<v Speaker 2>become a Fortune five hundred company. His one that he

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<v Speaker 2>started with is TSA pre Check Life Altering and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear TSA pre Check on Steroids or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it apparently it's awesome. So I got to look

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<v Speaker 2>into Clear.

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<v Speaker 1>So we mentioned the steroids part. You just mentioned steroids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw in yesterday's On Monday's podcast episode you

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<v Speaker 1>and arm were talking about steroids. I haven't gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to listen because we're recording kind of early on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just elaborate on a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>steroids because I saw steroids might be coming back, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, what the hell did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Yeah? No, So what we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>was this is this is the deciding year for steroids

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball history in terms of the Hall of Fame vote.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got Bonds and Clemens on their tenth year

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<v Speaker 1>on the ballot, so if they don't make it this year,

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<v Speaker 1>they're off and it's up to the senior vote to

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<v Speaker 1>get them in.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also a Rod and Poppy's first year on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot, So if Bons and Clemens get in, a

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<v Speaker 2>Rod and Poppy should be first ballot Hall of Famers.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Bon's and Clemens don't get in, then that

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<v Speaker 2>probably means that a Rod and Poppy are not getting in.

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<v Speaker 2>There are ten years on there, and if they do

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<v Speaker 2>in like year four or five, then it's unfair to

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<v Speaker 2>Bonds and Clemens, who were objectively better at baseball and

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<v Speaker 2>should be in the Hall of Fame as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>a Rod and Poppy.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of setting the precedent right, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that keeping a Mark maguire or a

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Sosa out of the Hall of Fame means that

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens shouldn't make it, Because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all know that. Maybe we don't all know

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<v Speaker 1>this for sure, but I think it's you know, probable

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<v Speaker 1>that Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds, along with Alex Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 1>would have made the Hall of Fame without steroids, which

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<v Speaker 1>is so hard to say, but I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of believe it. So if Bonds, okay, throw

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<v Speaker 1>it back to you, do you think that they get

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<v Speaker 1>in and would you put them in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they get in. I personally would

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<v Speaker 2>put them in, and I agree I would too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I elaborate on this more in yesterday's podcast, So go

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<v Speaker 2>back and listen to Monday's Just Baseball Show if you

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<v Speaker 2>want my full thoughts on this. But Dan Bernstein, who

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<v Speaker 2>was a sports talk host in Chicago, longtime sports talk hoost,

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<v Speaker 2>has a great perspective on what the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>is now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a museum.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a museum that chronicles what happens in baseball's history.

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<v Speaker 2>The steroid era was part of baseball history, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could make it the argument that the best hitter ever

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<v Speaker 2>was a victim of the steroid era or a subject

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<v Speaker 2>of the steroid era. Right, he might have been one

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<v Speaker 2>of the villains of the steroid era, Barry Bonds.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Bonds's career numbers and put them up against anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Bonds is probably the greatest hitter of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Hank maybe Willie Mays. But like I'm taking Barry

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<v Speaker 2>Bonds's numbers, the OGP, there are years where he had

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<v Speaker 2>an OBP near six hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>He just I mean, he got one pitcher game and

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<v Speaker 1>hit it out, and then the other they would just

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<v Speaker 1>walk him. They intentionally walked him with the bases loaded. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when I'm looking back on the greatest picture

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, I sometimes am like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Page Martinez is the greatest pitcher ever because not only

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<v Speaker 1>was he the elite of the elite in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers across baseball history just some of those specific seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you move when you realize that he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it against a bunch of dudes who are roided up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a pitcher was never accused or tested

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<v Speaker 1>positive for steroids either. So that's why I say Pago

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<v Speaker 1>Martinez might be the best pitcher of all time because

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<v Speaker 1>he pitched in the toughest ERA four pitchers. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>stacks up against the greats, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could also make the argument that that's why

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<v Speaker 2>Griffy is the greatest player of all time because Ken

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<v Speaker 2>Griffy Junior did this clean while other people were doing

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<v Speaker 2>it not clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Willie Mays is still better than Ken Griffy

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<v Speaker 1>jeer all the time. I mean, what was Willy May's dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, no, But like I'm saying, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Griffy's got comparable numbers to Willie Mays.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can spend Yeah, many, we got to get

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<v Speaker 1>into All MLB.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have multiple Hall of Fame episodes. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>All MLB team. I love that this is something that

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<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball is doing now because first team All NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>first Team All Defense, like that is sick if your

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<v Speaker 2>first or second team All NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought it was cool, especially first I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wish I guess Gold Gloves is first team All Defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've gotten in this conversation before. They just don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that great a job at deciding the Gold Glove winner,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't really get a first team All Defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoiler alert, but somebody we're going to get into right away,

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<v Speaker 2>won a Gold Glove this year when they just should

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<v Speaker 2>not have won a Gold Glove.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Yeah, yeah, that's how it. Yeah, it's not. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna give you a rundown of the All MLB

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<v Speaker 2>candidates and you can vote on MLB dot com. Just

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<v Speaker 2>search all MLB Team vote and you can vote there.

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<v Speaker 2>There are like eight to ten candidates per position listed,

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<v Speaker 2>more for outfielders and starting pitchers. But the way that

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<v Speaker 2>the vote works is a lot like an All Star vote.

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<v Speaker 2>You select one at each position, including DH You select

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<v Speaker 2>five starting pitchers and two relievers. Three outfielders you select

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So we're going to run through We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you a brief statistical rundown of each candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>tell you why they're worthy. We also put together our

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<v Speaker 2>All MLB team, so we will tell you the winners

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of each position, breaking it down. We're

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<v Speaker 2>also going to run through the team at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the pot. Right Like, this is gonna take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time, So let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that we got There's a lot of players and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players that deserve some love too, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got. Let's just start with first base.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, before U before we get into this. About an

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<v Speaker 2>hour ago, the Beloit Snappers, the high affiliate for the Marlins,

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<v Speaker 2>totally rebranded and they are now the Beloit Skycarp.

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<v Speaker 1>The names in minor league baseball, I don't get them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're kind of hilarious, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the voice of the ten Caps. What the hell

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<v Speaker 1>is a ten cap?

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<v Speaker 2>It's an apple that wears a pot on its head.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's wrong with like being like the Hawks or

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles or the Lions. I mean these are all

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of basic butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like the Skycarp, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes my league. Let's talk first base.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the guy that won a Gold Glove

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<v Speaker 2>but shouldn't have won a Gold Glove. Paul Goldschmidt should

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<v Speaker 2>be considered he had a negative defensive war, but he

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<v Speaker 2>still won a gold. He's been a really good defensive

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<v Speaker 2>first baseman the entirety of his career, so this felt

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<v Speaker 2>like a benefit of the doubt thing. But Paul Goldschmidt

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<v Speaker 2>was sneaky with a two ninety four clip, thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>bombs and ninety nine RBIs is Goldie back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these absolutely back. I don't know if he ever

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<v Speaker 1>really left. Yeah, I think maybe he had some down

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<v Speaker 1>seasons according to him and a guy we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into later, Mookie Betts, a down season according to him,

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<v Speaker 1>but still elite, and I feel like Goldschman has ranked

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<v Speaker 1>with the elite first basemans for a while now. The

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<v Speaker 1>only question that in Paul Goldschmith's career is whether he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Goldschman has turned in a fantastic career and

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<v Speaker 1>he turned in another phenomenal season in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he needs to do more, and his problem was

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of dipped into obscurity with Arizona for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But he's putting up crazy good numbers. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>he started really poorly this year. He almost kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gave me Kevin Love vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with the Timberwolves putting up twenty three and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Diamondbacks just hitting three hundred and thirty bombs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's noticing. Then he goes over the Cardinals. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a great start, like you said, Also, not a

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<v Speaker 1>great start to twenty twenty one, but then the second

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<v Speaker 1>half it was like, I'm one of the best first basement.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be the best first basement in baseball, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>outside of our winner. So he definitely deserves to be

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<v Speaker 1>in this mention totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Vado another guy that we got to mention one

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<v Speaker 2>forty WRC plus. Vado put together the third best power

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<v Speaker 2>season of his career at age thirty seven. His two

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<v Speaker 2>better seasons power wise resulted in an NLMVP and a

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<v Speaker 2>second place finish in NLMVP. This was also the highest

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<v Speaker 2>strikeout rate of his career, but he surrendered the insane

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<v Speaker 2>bat to ball skills for more home runs and more

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<v Speaker 2>RBIs and it worked for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Vado still bangs, that's all I gotta say. Still bangs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool to see him back too, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more likable players to watch in baseball

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I just love that Joey Vado had this

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<v Speaker 1>type of season and he's back at the conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>all MLB team It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also funny as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's great. I love everything about him.

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<v Speaker 2>His interactions with the fans are great and they're wholesome

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<v Speaker 2>or they're hilarious at the fans being a dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold you accountable too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly our third guy to be considered. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his close no cigar was future New York Yankee Matt Olson.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighth in baseball with a one forty six WRC plus

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine bombs one hundred and eleven RBIs struck out

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen percent of the time, which is low, walked thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a really good hitter. Probably finishes two I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the second best season out of first baseman this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's looking increasingly increasingly like he will be a

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<v Speaker 1>future New York Yankee. But for the A's he was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it's so hard to hit in Oakland to

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<v Speaker 1>have that type of offensive season. I mean, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen offensive seasons like that since twenty fourteen. Donaldson and

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<v Speaker 1>matt Olsen turned that type of season. He's a stud

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<v Speaker 1>and put him in Yankee Stadium look pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, doesn't Matt Olsen feel like the kid that would

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<v Speaker 2>get off the bus when you were playing like a

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<v Speaker 2>home game in high school? He was the kid that

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<v Speaker 2>got off the bus that you looked at and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, he's gonna rip my heart out.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember looking at Jack Flaherty faced him in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the Mount of usc just so much more athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>just so much bigger. And that's how matt Olsen looks

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<v Speaker 1>like in the majors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seriously, I mean with that big goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like, how are you going to get

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<v Speaker 1>him out?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. He doesn't get out often.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm excited for him moving forward to

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<v Speaker 1>because was this a season that we should come to

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<v Speaker 1>expect for Matt Olson? Was this a peak year? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly, but I know he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a very good player for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to look at this home run Derby can

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<v Speaker 2>testants with the lowest strikeout rate, Like I bet Soto

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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit lower, but Matt Olson's not far

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<v Speaker 2>off at seventeen percent. So a home run Derby participant

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<v Speaker 2>with those bat to ball skills, that's a very enticing player.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That is a very enticing player.

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<v Speaker 2>Our selection for the All MLB first baseman is I

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<v Speaker 2>think a shoe in here. Vladdie Guerrero Junior. He led

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<v Speaker 2>major League Baseball with forty eight home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>He was tied with.

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<v Speaker 2>Sal Perez in that clip. He led major League baseball

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<v Speaker 2>with three hundred and sixty three total bases. Total bases

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<v Speaker 2>is every time you get on base, they add the

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<v Speaker 2>bases you get out of the batter's box. So a

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<v Speaker 2>single is one total base, a triple is three, a

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<v Speaker 2>home runs four. He led baseball in total bases, He

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<v Speaker 2>led baseball in runs scored. He was getting on base

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. He was second in WRC plus only

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<v Speaker 2>to Bryce. He was one of two players with Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>with an OPS over one thousand. He was Fangrafts the

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<v Speaker 2>leader in offensive war. Laddie Junior puts together one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best hitting seasons we've seen in quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could keep going into his numbers in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season of how amazing he was. We could just

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<v Speaker 1>keep listening him off what he let in. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take you back to the beginning of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>spring training, even before spring training, this was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who looked like a potential superstar but just was straight

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<v Speaker 1>up fat. He was a fat guy. He was big,

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<v Speaker 1>he was bulky. The blue Jay said, you gotta drop weight,

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<v Speaker 1>and once you drop weight, You're gonna become one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best hitters in baseball, and he's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, drops forty pounds, walks into spring training has

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the time, nine of the top ten

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<v Speaker 1>hardest hits in spring training was raking balls. And we

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<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning of the season, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Row Junior coming out party, and that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a hair away from winning the Triple Crown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The only question now is is vladimirk Er Junior already

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten player or do we need one more season,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I feel like this is what we

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<v Speaker 1>should expect going forward, but I don't know. We only

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<v Speaker 1>did it once.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he gets anywhere close to doing this again,

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and every number can take a dip. But

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<v Speaker 2>if he gets in the same ballpark in all these

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<v Speaker 2>categories again, he's a top ten hitter in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy. He might be a top five hitter in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was saying. Maybe it's just a straight hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>You could call him top three, you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Call him top three, you can ten right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think it's fringe. It's just if you

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<v Speaker 1>called him a top ten player, I'd be like, makes sense. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't and said I need you to see

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, I'd be like, yeah, totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we all understand the talent level is

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. He had a share of the home run

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<v Speaker 1>title with forty eight. Do you get to cash out

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<v Speaker 1>on that? What were yours when you said Vladdie to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the league in bombs plus forty four hundred? Lost?

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't lead the league home runs.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to share of the league lead. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>leading the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't lead the league. That's no, no, no. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the odds were how they were. Plus forty

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred. He had to lead the league in home runs, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But he did.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't. But he did, but I know he

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<v Speaker 1>died for the league. It was a very small bet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not too upset about it. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>did se plus forty four hundred, and I will give

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<v Speaker 1>him credit for absolutely nailing that. Thank you. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to second base.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy that should be considered on the All MLB

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<v Speaker 2>team is Brandon Laue with the Tampa Bay Rays. Loo

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<v Speaker 2>hitting thirty nine homers, is weirder than Mitch Hanneger hitting

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine homers. Both those guys are just like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell? He had an eight to sixty three and

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<v Speaker 2>a one thirty seven WRC. Plus I know you watched

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<v Speaker 2>Lao all the time. Being in the Al East just

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<v Speaker 2>breaks the power with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's not a guy who's gonna get you

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty foot home runs, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking three to eighty line drive out of the

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<v Speaker 1>park forty times. Yeah, I know, he's just But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is he's also he strics out a lot, and personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I just watching him as a Yankee to Array, I

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<v Speaker 1>hated him, which goes to show how good he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also not been that great in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the span of twenty twenty one, Brendon Lao

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<v Speaker 1>deserves to be in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my thing with Lao was there was just no

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<v Speaker 2>sex appeal with him. There was some sex appeal with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other guys in Tampa, but like, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about watching Brandon Lao had me hot and bothered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he doesn't do anything amazing, but he does

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<v Speaker 1>everything well. And that goes to say for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players on this list. They may not be No.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One in one thing, but they're top five and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. And Brandon Le's not top five

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of things, but he still is very

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<v Speaker 1>good across the board. The only thing I would improve

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<v Speaker 1>is about the ball skills. When he hit thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>them runs and you're still getting on base and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a solid ops and you're kind of making up

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<v Speaker 1>for it in other ways, I say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>You're still a beast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Vado had a transcendent power season for him. So

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<v Speaker 2>did Jose Altuve, who should also be considered for all

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<v Speaker 2>MLB's second base. Altuve had the best power season of

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<v Speaker 2>his career. He hit thirty one homers, which tied a

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<v Speaker 2>career high. He had eighty three RBIs, which was the

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<v Speaker 2>second highest total of his career. He had the lowest

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<v Speaker 2>strikeout rate that he has put up since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had the highest walk rate in his career,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was seeing more pitches, he was picking the

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<v Speaker 2>right ones, and little Man hit thirty one bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of famer, I mean, one of the clutches, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the clutchest players. We also had a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>clutch that clutch isn't real. And it's an interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because when you hear me say that clutch isn't real,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>What why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because all I'm hearing and I'm not I haven't made

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<v Speaker 1>my full decision yet. But when you consider what a

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<v Speaker 1>clutch player is, it's a player who comes up big

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<v Speaker 1>in clutch moments, like with high leverage situations. More often

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<v Speaker 1>than not, the good players often come up big in

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<v Speaker 1>high leverage situations. Does that necessarily mean they're clutch or

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<v Speaker 1>does that just mean that they're good? I think when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the word clutch, we should consider really

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<v Speaker 1>good players and who was better in high leverage situations

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes them more clutch. But I'm also and

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<v Speaker 1>especially that variance in the stat on fangrafs too, how

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<v Speaker 1>someone like a Derek Jeeter could have a positive clutch

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<v Speaker 1>percentage and the negative year over year and not be

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<v Speaker 1>every So it's it's a very complicated conversation and I

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have a strong opinion either way. I you

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<v Speaker 1>know a guy's clutch, if he's clutched, we don't have

0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to go that far. Into it. But JOSEL. Tuve has

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of clutch moments, especially in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the all time playoff leaders in home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Jose Altuve, the five foot four Jose Altuve is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoff leaders in home runs.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, I thought clutch was about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guys stepping up to the big moment. I think my

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<v Speaker 2>newer way of thinking about it is, while there are

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<v Speaker 2>a very select few that do step up to the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are Brandon clutch because they don't fall in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of guys cave. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys like the moment gets in their head.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guys who who don't get all caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in the moment, those guys are just more clutch. So

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<v Speaker 2>I like that everybody else going down and you staying

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<v Speaker 2>the same.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think it is. I think it's should

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<v Speaker 1>be when we're comparing good players and who is continually

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<v Speaker 1>rising to the occasion and who falters. Yeah, not like

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<v Speaker 1>David Freeze is just clutch because he just had that

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<v Speaker 1>home run against the Ring, or he could the home

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<v Speaker 1>run the triple and all that, and here like just

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<v Speaker 1>like a clutch player. I don't know, but like Freeze

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<v Speaker 1>could be clutch.

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<v Speaker 2>Randy a rose Arena is clutch like he rises for

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger moment. But those are two of the very

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<v Speaker 2>few that you could possibly name. I think there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys that just continue performing to their

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<v Speaker 2>standards while the overwhelming majority of baseball falters in a

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<v Speaker 2>high leverage moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hotel is a perfect example of that of someone

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<v Speaker 1>who rises to the occasion and definitely deserves to be

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<v Speaker 1>on this All MLB team totally.

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<v Speaker 2>One more thing that I want to say about clutch

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to our next guy who should be considered.

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<v Speaker 2>I did say that there is a stat to measured clutch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not listed on Savant or fan grafts. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>called girth and they keep it in house. I think

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<v Speaker 2>girth is is the clutch measurement. That's an astat to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth rate correlation between clutch percentage and girth rate. Where

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<v Speaker 1>does it neat metal expected weighted girth? Our next guy? Wow? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this Tuesday episode took a turn. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next guy to be considered for All MLB's second

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<v Speaker 2>base position should be Ozzie Alby's. He's just a switch

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<v Speaker 2>hitting second baseman with thirty bombs and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>six RBIs. He went twenty for twenty four in his

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<v Speaker 2>stolen base attempts. He won a World Series, he collected

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<v Speaker 2>his second Silver Slugger. He plays pretty solid defense at

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<v Speaker 2>second base. Ozzie Alby's for the next ten years is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be considered.

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<v Speaker 1>For this honor. I agree. And he's just under such

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<v Speaker 1>a nice contract too, by the Braves. They locked him

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<v Speaker 1>up for what do you know the exact numbers on

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<v Speaker 1>that contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me look at it right now. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it's like seven years, thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven years, thirty five million. Boom, Come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>say what you want. You can even think he's overrated,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've heard some of that in some circles, that

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<v Speaker 1>his defense isn't actually as good as people think, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he is a switch hitter, but from one

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>side of the plate he's just really not that good.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall Ozsi Alby's, nobody's going to debate that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a great player. And at five million a year, are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? I mean, one of the best bargains

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's stupid and like we you know, we say that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>these guys shouldn't be complaining because Ozi Alby's is still

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<v Speaker 2>making five million year what he does, and the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money that he returns to the Braves just for

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>his production and his likability is valued at so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than five million dollars. You can say that athletes

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:45.719
<v Speaker 2>are drastically overpaid, but the reality is, like Lebron, you

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>can pay him any amount of money an annual salary

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>to stay under the cap. Even if you paid him

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred million dollars a year, his shoe brand brings

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<v Speaker 2>in more.

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<v Speaker 1>Money than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think more pies to Laker games.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think you could really ever

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<v Speaker 1>pay him as worth in an NBA salary. Never, And

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<v Speaker 1>you can't pay a lot of these guys, Like what

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>do you pay one Sodo? Like what do you? I mean,

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>we know what they're paying Mike Trout, but is that

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>even worth it? Like what exactly does Mike trup bring

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels nine wins? As in war? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're still turning millions and millions of dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of profit on these teams. If you're an owner if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to the let's get to the winner. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Semion's gonna get paid. Semon played in all one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty two games, he led the league and

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>played appearances. His forty five home runs were fourth in baseball.

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>This was the first season of his career with over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred RBIs his first true season playing at second base.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>He wins a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was the third finalist in a two horse race

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<v Speaker 2>for American League MVP. Marcus Semion is your all MLB

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>second basement. All of those numbers are impressive home runs.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 2>The RBIs everything I mean, the Gold Glove, the Silver Slugger.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I really look back on is just like

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>he was so durable, He played every single game while

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<v Speaker 2>providing excellent defense and offensive production. Like he was really

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<v Speaker 2>the far and away I think, the best second basement

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball. And like you said, he can get paid,

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<v Speaker 2>but he might not even be a second basement next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone team might say, you know what, you're just that good,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put you back at short. Even though his

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 1>defense at short wasn't that great. Is putting him at

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>second base, maybe better for his offensive production. I mean,

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you saw Glabor when he moved from shortstop to second base.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Was the you know, were the errors, the bad defense

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to his head affecting his performance at the plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that happening possibly with Marcus Semion? So maybe does

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<v Speaker 1>he consider that or he's like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just so good, I don't care I'm playing short. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if I had to sign Marcus Simeon, I

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<v Speaker 2>would put him at second base because.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just try.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, let's move on to third base, not third,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on to short. Brandon Crawford is the first

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>guy that you should be considering. He had the best

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>offensive season of his career by a country mile, career

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>best in batting average OBP, slugging, home runs, RBIs, stolen bases,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>run scored WRC plus, all while winning his fourth Gold Gloff.

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Crawford had this resurgence season and it was beautiful.

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>You could say Francisco Lindor has the best hands in

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>baseball terms of fielding ground ball. You could even say

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>possibly his teammate Hobby Bias. I'm okay saying that terms

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>are just hands. Yeah, but Brandon Crawford's hands. Is anyone

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>smoother at fielding a ground ball in the game?

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean everybody wanted to be Andrelton Simmons for

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Everybody wanted to be Derek Jeter, everybody wanted

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to be Lindor, everybody wanted to be Bias.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Through all of those guys, Brandon Crawford has been second

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>on that list.

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And doesn't Brandon Crawford look like if you put together

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>every shortstop in the history of baseball into one player,

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Like and I said the same thing about Charlie Morton,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>he kind of looks like every pitcher ever had a baby. Yeah,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>he is what they look like.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>He looks like what you draw as a shortstop, right,

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>what you are saying is the prototypical shortstop. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the prototypical shortstop. That's what it feels like to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think that's and their team won one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seven games. I'm gonna say that for all

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>the Giants guys, because they all.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Deserved that too.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Another guy who should be considered Trey Turner, won the

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>overall batting title with a three to twenty eight clip.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>He cleared Juli Guriel by nine points, Juan Soto by fifteen.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ninety five hits for Trey led major

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>League baseball. He was third in baseball with thirty two

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>stolen bases. He got on base at a three seventy

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>five clip, and he had a one forty two WRC

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>plus trade Turner is we've said it one of, if

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<v Speaker 2>not a top three overall player in baseball, Like he's

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>just so gifted at baseball.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>He is gifted at baseball. And it's another one of

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>those things, I mean in terms of talent. I mean,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you could kind of make the argument it's just like

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what is Trey Turner bad at? But I think his

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<v Speaker 1>what really sets him apart, I think is his speed.

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Not only was he a second faster and feet per

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>second sprint speed, not a second a foot faster thirty

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<v Speaker 1>point seven sprint speed This year next best Ahmed Rosario

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>at twenty nine point five. He had one hundred and

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>forty seven bolts compared to sixty seven bolts. And I'm

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to find the exact definition for bolt, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a certain level of sprint speed that you achieved,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's thirty feet per second. I just

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to get the math wrong, but I think

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's how many times you reach thirty feet per second?

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>And he was seven times. He literally doubled the second

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>best player. He is by far the fastest player in baseball.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like that's attaching one word to it for like bolt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like it's barrels.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Barrels means I have plus off the bat bots mean

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<v Speaker 2>you ran this fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly that I think. I mean, I can't for some reason,

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not showing up on this damn baseball savant. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's thirty feet per second.

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Gotch you?

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>And if someone yeah, a bolt is any run above

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty feet per second? Bank found it. We're Goodang bang easy.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Next guy that you should consider is Carlos Korea. He

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>was second in Major League Baseball in war among position players,

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>only to Marcus Semion. According to Baseball Reference, Correa was

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 2>far and away the most valuable defender in baseball. He

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>can run it up to ninety seven miles an hour

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>across the diamond, and you see it with the arm

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>all the time. It gets there like a bolt. He

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>hit two seventy nine with an eight to fifty ops. Again,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>a massively clutched performer in the postseason, Carlos care is

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>going to get the bag deservedly.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So he did this in a contract year, and it's awesome.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>You could make the argument Krea had the best season

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<v Speaker 1>of any shortstop. You can make that with combining with

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the defense, considering Tatisa's struggles on defense. Yeah, I think

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you could make the argument that he actually had I

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to give it away. I

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>think everybody knows who our best shortstop is right now.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You just say close Crea was. Yeah, he was legit,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that good Platinum Award winner in the American League, all outstude,

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to get close to three hundred million

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>dollars this offseason.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Fernando Tatis Junior is your all MLB shortstop. He

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was fourth in baseball with a one to fifty six

0:31:55.000 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>WRC plus. Tatis as a lightning fast shorts, hit forty

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>two bombs, drove in ninety seven, stole twenty five bags.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>He was second in Major League Baseball in slugging. He

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>was fourth in ops. I have a question for you,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>do you think that Fernando Tatis Junior can contest for

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<v Speaker 2>best player in baseball if the defense steps up.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And how much do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>You can attribute the poor defense at times to his

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder thing?

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a loaded question. Let me let me answer the first.

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me answer the first part about that. Can he

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>be the best player in baseball? I think he can. Offensively,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>He's as gifted as any player in the sport at

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the most premium position. So let's say him and Juan Soto.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's say him and Mike TeV Laimiger junior. If they

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>have very similar offensive seasons. But I get the shortstop

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>more often than not, you're going to take the shortstop,

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>which means he for sure has a chance at being

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the best player in baseball. But we look back at

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the defense. He was one of the league leaders and errors.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>But the problem with errors is that a guy like Tati's,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's so quick and is laterally, he's so quick

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>as well everywhere, he gets to more balls, therefore making

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>more errors on a ball that maybe hits off his

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>glove that other shortstop couldn't even get to and that

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.239
<v Speaker 1>would just be a hit. So that's why it's kind

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of tough. But there's no doubt. I mean the throwing errors,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>But then could you attribute that to the shoulder I

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>know is his non throwing arm, but it still matters

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that you're still playing injured. Yeah, So to answer your question,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes, But at this point he's just

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>got to improve on defense. But with a guy as

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>talented as this is anyone expecting him not to improve

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>on defense?

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think anybody is twenty two stagnant.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy, even a guy like Juan Soto. He

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was pretty bad defensively last year and was much better

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>this year. Like you get Tatis one month, Hey, just

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>field ground balls in February. He'll come back. He'll be fine,

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>right if you.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, here's the thing about Soto and Tatis. They don't

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>have much shit to work on offensive.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. It's like, what are they working on?

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Just go field like that's your only like somewhat weakness.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's my big problem with pictures. Not knowing how

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to bunt, Like you can only throw for so long,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Like what are you doing with the rest of your time? Like,

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>just go bunt like Tatis stole twenty five bags. Yeah,

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Also think about this, I mean, you know it. You've

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>swung about hundreds of thousands of times before your front

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>shoulder being hurt that badly. That's hard to swing. And

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>this guy put out forty two bombs.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. Did we even get a one percent

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of tatis this year? Hell no, that's that's the that's

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the crazy part about it. Yeah, we were dealing with

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>an injured twenty two year old who was, no doubt

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>about it, a top ten player this year. Sky's limit.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Sky is absolutely the limit.

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Third base, Let's start with Manny Machado being somebody that

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>should be considered. He was in the ninety sixth percentile

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and average exit of velocity. He hit a ball one

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty miles an hour like Machado's got it

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 2>with the bat. All in all, he hit two to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty with twenty eight bombs one hundred and six RBIs

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 2>all while not taking a step back defensively and being

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that Swiss army knife that you can put out in

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 2>shallow right field in the shift. Machado, while not performing

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<v Speaker 2>to the standard that he set for himself in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty close.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's right there, right there. The defense is

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<v Speaker 1>still good. I mean it's still Manny freaking Machado, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a big ass contract, but he's living up

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Also, hitting, I've when we say, you know,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>hitting in Yankee Stadium is easier. The type of competition

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>he is in the National League West at Petco, which

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is a notorious pitchers park, facing that Dodgers rotation, that

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Giant's rotation all I mean, Rockies and Diamondback certainly helps

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 1>hey man.

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>But Antonio sends it, Tella, get.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Your money, sends it Tella. But so you have to

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>factor that intwo. Machado is living up to the contract,

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and he is not one of the reasons that the

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<v Speaker 1>Padres didn't make the playoffs. He was, he was one

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of the bright spots. Yeah, no, the problem was Adam Fraser.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh sorry, Adam Fraser odsmer. Jose Ramirez needs to.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Be considered for this. He was and is good at

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 2>literally everything. Jose Ramirez does not swing and miss. Jose

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Ramirez walks a lot. He hits thirty six bombs, He

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>drives in over all hundred guys. Jose Ramirez stole twenty

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>seven bags in thirty one attempts, and he plays top

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>flight defense at third base. We said it Jose Ramirez

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 2>might be the most valuable player in baseball right now,

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>given the contract, given the team friendliness, and just how

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>fricking good a baseball player he is.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Just looking at his savant page just so red, and

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>then his spray chart everywhere what I'm going through it,

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>there is nothing he doesn't do at maybe close to

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<v Speaker 1>an elite level. I'm even looking at just like how

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>he does against per pitch. He's hitting at least two

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>point fifty on any pitch. Any pitch. You can't throw

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>curveballs to get him out. He'll hit those, obviously you're

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not gonna throw them a fastball. I'm trying to find

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the weakness here, Jack. There's no weakness. There is none even.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you could say he didn't hit

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the ball the opposite way that much, the fifteen point

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>one percent of the oppos away. I guess you'd kind

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of want to be more miiddible like you here.

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Jim Tomay is a Hall of Famer. He didn't hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ball the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>For shit, I'm trying to find one thing he wasn't

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>great at, and it's hitting the other way. And that's

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>just this season. He's actually been pretty good at it

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in his career, So just this season, he wasn't that

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>great at hitting the ball the opps away. There's the weakness, dude,

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>naked eye.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>You look at him and you're just like, okay, like

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, short stocky fella, your weakness is going to

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 2>be defensively and running the bases. Nope, He's stole twenty

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>seven bags and he's like a gold Glove caliber third basement.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's nothing he doesn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing he doesn't do. Raffie Devers needs to be considered

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 2>for all MLB third base. He wasn't disciplined, but far

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>and away his most disciplined season relatively speaking to date,

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the largest difference between OBP and batting average in his career.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>That shows us that he's walking.

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 2>More oh and thirty eight bombs with one hundred and

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.240
<v Speaker 2>thirteen RBIs. He had an eight to ninety ops, which

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>was top ten of the American League. Raffie Devers stepped

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>it up late. He's a dude. He's going to stay

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<v Speaker 2>a dude.

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>He's only twenty five. You think a guy like Rafael

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Devers has just been in this league for years and

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>years and he might be Oh so you approaching thirty. No, no, no, no, no,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>we're getting into the prime. This is one of the

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>best offensive players in baseball. He hits high v low,

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>he hits soft, he hits lefties, he hits rightys. There

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>isn't really a weakness to his game. I guess you

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>could just say the speed, but ninety third percent of average,

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>ex velosity ninety third and max eggs a velocity ninety

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>second and hard to hit. I mean, he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties of everything that's hitting. He is one of the

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>premier hitters in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Our winner, who we think should be the All MLB

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>third baseman is Austin Riley. Pete your most underrated player

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>in baseball. He's not underrated anymore after the Braves won

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 2>the Chip. But Austin Riley hit three oh three with

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three homers, one hundred and seven driven in in ops,

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>two ticks under nine hundred. He played one hundred and

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>sixty of one hundred and sixty two games in the

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>He was top five in hits and.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Is sneaky in the seventieth percentile and sprint speed. He's

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a good athlete. He's going to continue to figure it out.

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Defensively again, much like Tatis, much like Soto, Because if

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>this year's any indicator of what Austin Riley could be offensively,

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have much to work on there. So he's

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>just going to keep working on his glove and he's

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be here for a while. Talk about something to not

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 1>work on with the bat. How about the fact Jack

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he hit three thirty three of off speed pitches and

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>three oh seven off breaking balls two ninety off fast balls.

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, he was literally better against off speed.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do? How are you gonna get

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>him out? Throw him a fastball? What? Five seven off fastballs?

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 3>He's slunking six o nine off off speed pitches. Jack,

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>six o nine, Oh my god, that's nice. Let's let's

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 3>see if he does anything wrong. Nope, Oh my god.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>He hits the ball to all the fields. Hits ball

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 3>to all fields. Go look at a spray chart.

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<v Speaker 1>He's twenty four Jack And it was funny Austin Riley

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>going into the season. I don't know if anyone was

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>expecting that much from Austin Riley. This was not a

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>make or break year, not like if he had like

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>not that great year. The Brakes are just like, all right,

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you know siya because they invest a lot like this

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is their third basement of the future. Yeah, but that

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>thought creeps into your head if he doesn't have like

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that great of a season totally, but he has a

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Donaldson type season. Like I said in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 1>this guy I love Austin Riley, just Rakes. I mean,

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the scariest hitters in the postseason.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Said you said my name often when you were trying

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 2>to tell me what he does. Really well, it's like

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to convince me that I need to buy

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>into Austin Riley is good. Like I'm all the way in. Okay,

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>there's no need to badger.

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Me about Austin Riley. I'm all the way in. All right,

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that's fair.

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>We added one more guys, so instead of three kind

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.959
<v Speaker 2>of runners up, we've got four. We'll go rapid fire

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>through these catchers because we got to make up time, right.

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Will Smith with at least three hundred played appearances, Will

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Smith ranks fourth with a one thirty WRC plus. He

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 2>cut down on the swing and miss and the chasing

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>in his game. He has vastly improved defensively. Mike Zanino

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>another guy that should be considered. He had a higher

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>WRC plus than sal Perez and he hit thirty three bombs. Yes,

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Moni Grondal should be considered because he led major League

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 2>baseball with a twenty three percent walk rate. In ninety

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 2>three games, Grondal had eighty seven walks and eighty two punchouts.

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>He hit two forty but with a four to twenty

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>OBP and a nine to forty ops. And then this

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>is the one that's gonna hurt. Sal Perez is the

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>runner up.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Pal Perez is I mean Grendal, Grandell ledbait led catchers

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in WRC plus, whatever you want to rank it. These

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>are the guys. Yeah, and we Salvado Prez hit forty

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>eight home runs this year and drove in one hundred

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>and twenty one.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 2>He led baseball in both. He had a share of

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the homer lead with Laddie. But our winner problem is

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 2>it's the framing. Like he was one of the worst

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>defenders in baseball.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But you get to be on the runner up you

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 1>hit forty eight bombs, drive in one hundred and twenty one.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>At some point it's like, dude, the guy was at fifty,

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>what's the last that many catchers doing that? And also

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we've talked never before talked about this before. Do you

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's hard to frame Jackson Kohar, Chris Bubich, Brady Singer,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>all of these guys who are young pitchers who and

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the Royals go stuff first, control command later. So you're

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to home an entire staff of rookie pitchers all

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to show off their best stuff so they could

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>stick in the rotation. Do you think it might be

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>hard to catch all these guys every day? And everyone's

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>pointing to sal Perez's walks. He can't walk. He has

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to go up and try and drive in runs. He

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>has to. He's the only one in that lineup who

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.959
<v Speaker 1>does so. Outside of like a wit Maorfield. He had

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the guy if it's if it's three to one,

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he's swinging. He's not looking for the walk, he's swinging.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's why you see some higher strike up strikeout rates,

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>see a lower on base percentage. But he made up

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>for it by thting legit forty eight bombs, driving a

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty one runs legit forty eight bombs.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But there was a guy that was just better and

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about.

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Going out on top buster our king Buster Posey should

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 2>get your all MLB vote and catch her.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>He's getting ours.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>He was really close to a three hundred four hundred,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>five hundred slash line, three hundred batting average, four hundred OVP,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 2>five hundred slugging in his swan song that we didn't

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 2>know about until it happened. Like what the hell, dude,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>let us know. We want to give you a farewell tour.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>This was his best offensive year since twenty seventeen. He

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 2>should get this based on merit. He should also get

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 2>it for the sentimental vote. I think, yeah, you're worded

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>that perfectly.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Not only should we all be like, you know what,

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>give it a posy, but it's not like he didn't

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>deserve it. I think he was pound pound for pound

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>as Iver Wayne catchers the best catcher in baseball this

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>year when you talk about his defense and that offensively,

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>he was right up there with Grendaal, with Salvi, with

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>all these guys, but yet commanded this staff Kevin Gosman,

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Logan Web Descalfani Quato, Alex Wood. Do you think they

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>looked pretty good because they got one of the best

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>catchers you know of our lifetime, framing the ball, throwing

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>out runners, calling an amazing game every time they won

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seven games, Lester posing.

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Man look at the pen too. I mean McGhee, Tyler Rodgers, Dovall,

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>dominic Leone. Like they all had really good years. There

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is a direct correlation between Buster Posey being a really

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>good catcher and that staff outperforming what we thought they

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 2>could do.

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I bet if you ask them what was one factor

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>outside just maybe yourself that contributed to a career year

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>for you, Buster, I bet you nine of the ten

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.479
<v Speaker 1>are saying Buster, If not all.

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Ten, yeah, well, and the one that doesn't is going

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>to get shit on by everybody. Uh, let's go to dh.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 2>This is super easy because like this guy has to

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 2>make it in one category, Shohy is going to win.

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's walk through who should be considered. JD Martinez has

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the best bat to ball skills of the DHS. I

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like how you said that, Pete. He was third in war,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 2>fourth in WRC plus among DHS, and he led the

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 2>position in batting average. JD was good.

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>He can swing it. He's just one of the scariest hitters.

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 1>In the lineup continually going to the playoffs. Who do

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you not want to face? JD Martinez talking about clutch.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 1>JD's just scary. Still at thirty.

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Four, Gihn Carlos Stanton has uber power.

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do we need to say? Gercarlo Stanton

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>came back and proved he's still one of the premier

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>power bats at the position and hits the ball harder

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>than everybody in baseball outside of his teammate Aaron Judge

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>at the position. Jerancarlo was second in home runs, he

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>was third in WRC plus and fourth in war and

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>really just showed out for a Yankee fan base then

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I think had some doubts moving into this season, but

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>he proved like he's we got to keep him. I mean,

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he's or you can turn that right back around if

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you're a Yankee fan and say now is the premiere

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>time to trade him. Possibly, but regardless what you do

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with him, he proved he's still one of the best

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>dhs in baseball and one of the best power hitters

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. One percent.

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>A guy that is going to be on this list

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>for fifteen years is somebody who you have so verily

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>clearly you have so very clearly said is going to

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>be a Hall of Famer. You're down at Olverarez, the

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 2>second highest war among dhs, the second highest WRC plus

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 2>of any DH. He would be the number one if

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for the best player in baseball. Yeah, that's

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>that's and that's the problem.

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like you might just say you're on one, Stanton

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>two JD three and just throw out a tawny, but

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you can't throw out o tawny. Dude. You get into

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Toni because like, oh my god.

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's the only player in Major league history to

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>have forty five homers twenty five stolen bases in five triples.

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Say that again.

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 2>He was the only player in major league history to

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 2>have forty five homers twenty five stolen bases in five triples.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He had a three point one adri Also, are you

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? That is the triples. I mean he's a pitcher.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 1>This guy is.

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>This guy is literally like that kid that just carries

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the team from North Dakota to the Little League World

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Series final, Like remember Gavin Weir, Yeah, but like if

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 2>led his led the Little World Series at Whole Rods too. Yeah,

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>but like show Hay is a better hitter for the

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Angels than Gavin Weird, Like you know what I mean, It's.

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Like it's I'll just shout out Gavin Weir.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, shout out Gavin Weir. It's like Jacob Deground,

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 2>but he also hits bombs. I mean, show Hay is

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the best power hitter in baseball, but he also pitches.

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's the best power hitter, but

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we're even saying that and like considering it,

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had forty six jacks. It is he

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the best power hitter in baseball? He slugged over six hundred.

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Like what do we talk about here?

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Like on the on the video games, he's got to

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 2>be at like ninety nine with the power, right has

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>to be like at least it's tough.

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I've maybe judge Stanton Blattie and the Dani Like, I

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>The outfield is absolutely loaded, you know, outfield and starting pitching.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna walk through who you should be considered really quick,

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 2>but we're going to get into each guy that we

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of voted in fair.

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair.

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Kyle Tucker should get considered fourth highest WRC plus

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 2>among outfielders at twenty four years old. Brian Reynolds was

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 2>great for a terrible team. He's got a high batting average.

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 2>He was a really good defensive outfielder. Tyler O'Neill is insane.

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 2>He's five tools. He's a muscle hamster. He hit thirty

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 2>four homers. He's also really fast, and he had a

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 2>two eighty six batting average. Tay Oscar Hernandez should seriously

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 2>be looked at maybe the most underrated hitter in the league.

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 2>He had almost three hundred with thirty two bombs and

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>had the same war as Mooky Bets. Mookie Bets should

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 2>be considered.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Even though this.

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Was a below average year per mookie Bets' standards, He's

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>still Mooky Bets. Nick Castillanos was seventh in WRC plus

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>among outfielders. He hit thirty four bombs. He hit over

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 2>three hundred, and then Cedric Mullins just missed the cut.

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>He was a thirty thirty guy. Thirty thirty guy. Can

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I say the three that we're getting into, Yes? Agree,

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>because I want I want to also say this that

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the best left fielder, the best center fielder,

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and the best right fielder. Three are the three best

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>outfielders in baseball in twenty twenty one, I'm gonna work

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>three to one Aaron Judge. This guy had the third

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>best season of any outfielder. We know that Judge is

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate power hitter in baseball, even though I guess

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine home runs seems kind of low. Even though

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>it was still thirty nine home runs. That just goes

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>as show the level of power that Aaron Judge has.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But he finished third in WRC plus at the position

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and was tied for third in WAR And I think

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the most underrated aspects of judge game is his fielding.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.919
<v Speaker 1>He's really one of the best defensive right fielders in

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 1>baseball and he The thing is with Aaron Judge is, yes,

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>he's one hundredth percentile in average exit velocity, max exit velocity,

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and barrel rate, but or hard hit rate, excuse me

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and barrel rate. But he's not going for a home

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>run every single time. That's not his game. He's just

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>not lucking, obviously, but he is kind of just lucking

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>at it because that's not his approach. His approach is

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>to drive the ball to all fields. But he's just

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>so goddamn strong that thirty nine of those balls just.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Went out of the ballpark, right like he is, he's

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a guy that doesn't know his own strength because he

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 2>views himself as this six to two skinny guys that's

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 2>got to spray it everywhere. But the thing is, he's

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>six seven, two eighty and it's all pure muscle. So like,

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.399
<v Speaker 2>if he has the idea of spraying it everywhere, he's

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 2>still gonna spray it everywhere. It's just gonna be really

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>hard because he's the biggest human being in baseball.

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>And I used to say Aaron Judge was the same

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>way as Zion Williamson. But now Zion Williamson looks like

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.479
<v Speaker 1>he's three fifty. I mean, he's a big old boy

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, big man, big man. But he's still I mean,

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he's still Zion Willimson still. But that just goes to

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.800
<v Speaker 1>show the level of size that Aaron Judge has. Totally.

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Number two Juan Soda, plain and simple. I think he

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>had the second best offensive season, not just out fielders

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in baseball, maybe third behind Vladimir ro Junior. But still

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:45.240
<v Speaker 1>he is an on base machine that does everything well

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jack he's approaching best player in baseball status. I

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>think next year, if Mike Troud is dealing with some injuries,

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe a down year, and Wan Soto continues to do

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, we have the new best player in baseball.

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Considering the improvements that he made on d defense, considering

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>he's going into his age twenty three season, this is

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe already the best hitter in baseball. But I'm still

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:10.240
<v Speaker 1>just gonna give it to Mike Trout until further notice.

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a track record thing, and the reason Trout

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.760
<v Speaker 2>is defaulting to it is because of the track record

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 2>he built up when he was Juan Soto's age. But

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>now Soto has built up this similar track record and

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he's at the stage of his career that we anointed

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Trout the best player in baseball.

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Literally, So it's like until Trout starts faltering. Because Trout,

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even before he got hurt, he was in

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>three thirty three, ye like, his LBP was over four hundred.

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>He was still elite. I think at the time when

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he went down, he was the league leader in home runs.

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's still Trout. But if you said Wan Soto

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 1>is the best player in baseball, I wouldn't fight you

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>too hard on it. That's how good this guy is. Yeah,

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but the guy who had the best offensive season in

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>baseball is Bryce Harper, plain and simple, best offensive season

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. He let MLB and OPS, he led in

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>WRC plus. Couple that with thirty five bombs and the

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>third highest war of any position player. And as Arm said,

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Harper saw one pitch a game and would do

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>damage every single time. In the counting stats, it's pretty

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 1>close between one soda. But if you want to go

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to one big number, WRC plus, he had a one

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy WRC plus this year. He was seventy percent above

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 1>league average. Juan Soto won sixty six sixty six pretty close.

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Really good OPS leader, WRC plus leader, Bryce Harper, best

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive season all m will be but him and won soda.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Good both of them anyways, so cares they're both amazing.

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 2>That's why you get three.

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>The Democrats get.

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, that wraps up hitters. So far we've got

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 2>due to two. Let me open up the Google doc.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 2>First baseman being Vladdie Junior, Matt Olson, Paul gold Schmid,

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Joe Vado just missed the cut. Second base Marcus Semion

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:13.799
<v Speaker 2>gets our vote. Ozzi, Albi's Brandon Lao, josel Twove, second, third,

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>fourth in whatever order, Fernando Tatis Junior we think is

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the all MLB shortstop, Carlos Correa, Trey Turner, Brandon Crawford

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to follow, Austin Riley the third basement, edging out Raffi Devers,

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Jose Ramirez and Manny Machado, Catcher is Buster Posey, just

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 2>barely beating out Sal Perez. Those guys kind of steer

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.720
<v Speaker 2>clear of yes, Moni Grondal, Mike Zanino and Will Smith,

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 2>although it feels like Josey and Perez, ten C sliveris

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 2>space Grandal, and then a massive drop off to Zanino

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and Will Smith, and then the dh Otani because of course,

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 2>followed by Jordan Gihn, Carlo and Jad Martinez, and then

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in the outfield Harper Soto and Judge Mullins, Castianos Betts,

0:56:56.840 --> 0:57:01.240
<v Speaker 2>ta Oscar Hernandez Tyler, O'Neill, Bryan Reynolds and Kyle Tucker

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>should get your consideration. But we're gonna do pictures on Friday.

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do pictures on Friday. We're gonna split it

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 2>up because we could just keep going. But the pictures

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 2>is gonna take forty five minutes to an hour.

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of guys that we got to talk about,

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>show some love, so we didn't think about, you know,

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.439
<v Speaker 1>putting you guys in. Like we said, this is gonna

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be a very long podcast. So we'll do part two Thursday,

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>though Friday, you me and arm correct Thursday, you and

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I again.

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, why not. We're still trying to hammer out

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of the offseason schedule.

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's coming this week. We know it's coming

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>this week. It's Thursday or Friday, but we're gonna have

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>an episode come out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday anyway, So just

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned. People, keep listening if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would say we don't care, but we

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:47.560
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