1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: This is the last with your host, JJ Zacheraj Zacherson. 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: What's up everyone. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: It's JJ Zacharison, the editor in chief over at number 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: five dot com and this is episode thirty five of 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: the Late Round podcast, one of the many shows that 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: are part of the Number five podcast network. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, and fantasy football volume is king. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: We know this. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: You can have a wildly efficient running back or wide receiver, 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: but without volume, that player is meaningless to the game. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: On the flip side, not all fantasy relevant players are 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: good at football. They're not always efficient. As mediocre as 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 3: Todd Gurley was last season, he was still an RB 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: two in almost all leagues. It surely had nothing to 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: do with his thirty five percent success rate or his 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: three point two yards per carry average. Gurley toaded the 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: rock two hundred and seventy eight times in twenty sixteen. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: He was important in fantasy football based on volume. When 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: we're projecting how offensive skill players are going to produce 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: for fantasy purposes, volume naturally drives everything. From a projection standpoint, 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: I take a top down approach. I look to project 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: team tendencies based on a list of factors, and then 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: I split up the rushing and receiving workload in terms 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: of market share or the percentage of team rushes or 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: targets a player will consume in his offense. There are 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: again a lot of different inputs that go into getting 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: accurate market share numbers. But if someone is selling that 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: part of the process as completely objective, they're lying to you. 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: It's not an easy thing to do when you're not 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: just evaluating the player to see how many touches he'll receive. 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: Like I said at the top, bad players will still 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: often see volume. If Jay Gruden wants Rob Kelly to 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: be his lead running back this year, despite Kelly being 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: an incredibly mediocre prospect who couldn't beat out non nflers 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: at Tulane, then Kelly will be a worthwhile fantasy asset. 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Even though Rob. 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Kelly runs like a dad and plods like I do 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: when I go for a run throughout my neighborhood, volume 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: alone will make him viable. Coaching decisions and how a 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: team feels about a player is often what drives that volume. Generally, 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: that lines up with how good of a player that 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: guy is on the field, but sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: you get a thirty year old Chris Johnson starting over 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: David Johnson for well over half of a season. The 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: great part with this human element to projecting, though, in 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: fantasy football, is that news exists. There are beat reporters 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: who talk to coaches that then allow us fantasy footballers 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: to more accurately understand which players will get touches and 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: which players won't. And there's arguably no person on this 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: earth who helps bridge this gap between us and what 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: teams are thinking more than ESPN's Adam Schefter. I was 52 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: fortunate to sit down and talk to Adam about NFL 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: reporting and how to sort through the issues we often 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: have when determining how teams feel about certain players. We 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: talked about things like coach speak, whether players even like 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: fantasy football, and because it's fantasy draft season, I peppered 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: him with questions about particular running back and wide receiver 58 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: battles throughout the league. 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Before we dig. 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: Into the interview, though, a quick reminder that the NFL 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: season is just around the corner and you can catch 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: all the games on tune In and the tune In. 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: App at home or on the go. 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Listen to the home call of every game live or 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: pop in and out of the action every Sunday with 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: NFL First and Goal. 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Tune In is your 69 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: Everything audio app. Now, let's learn something from Adam Schefter. 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: All right, So, Adam, I figured i'd start off with 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: just a high level question about the relationship between fantasy 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: and real football. 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Throughout the NFL. 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: Are there vibes about fantasy football that are generally positive? 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: You know? 76 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: Do you sense that players or coaches get annoyed at 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: the attention to statistical detail or do they seem to 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: think or understand that the game inherently is helping the 79 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: NFL product as a whole. And then I guess I 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: should ask on top of that, if there are people 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: who are annoyed, do you think that that ever changes 82 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: the way that they relay information to reporters such as yourself? 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, I think that there are 84 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: players that don't particularly care for it, and there are 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: players who enjoy. There are players who never want to 86 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: hear that you let down they let down your fantasy team, 87 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: or that they saved your fit. They don't care some 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: of them. There are some that I think even play 89 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the game, that I think get into it and understand it. 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: And I think that there are other people who are 91 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: just generally aware. But during our strong feelings, more went 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: another look the bottom line this And I had this 93 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: conversation today with Rex Ryan. We were talking about I 94 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: was explaining to him how fancy football work because he 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: plays in a bunch of fancy baseball leagues but doesn't 96 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: play in any fancy football leagues. And we were trying 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: to draft him to come play fantasy football this year 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: at ESPN with US, and I say, you don't understand. 99 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Fantasy football, in my mind, helps fuel the popularity of 100 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the sport. It is a driving force. I'm sure there 101 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: are people who think it's the driving force. 102 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: And all you have to do is think back. 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I remember back when I was in Denver as a 104 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: newspaper beat writer, people asking me all the time, how 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: are the Broncos going to do this year? And the 106 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: questions of how a team is going to do in 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: a giving year have turned into do. 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: You like David joh One? You know which quarterback we 109 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: you like? Who's your sleeper? 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Those types of questions and so to me, I don't 111 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: care whether players like it, don't like it, approve of it, 112 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: don't approve. The fact of the matter is it's here. 113 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: It's an enormous part of the business. It's a driving 114 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: force behind the business, and I think, to me, it's 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: best to embrace it. 116 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned the notion of how these questions 117 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: are becoming much more player specific rather than teams specific, 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: and I think a big thing for fantasy analysts, especially 119 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: those doing projections like myself, we have to sift through 120 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: this coach speak. In a few years ago, for instance, 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: we had Bruce Arians who notoriously told reporters that Andre 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Ellington would see twenty five to thirty touches per game, 123 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: and that took the fantasy world by storm because volume 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 3: drives the game of fantasy football, and that just doesn't happen. 125 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: Twenty five to thirty touches just doesn't happen, let alone 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: for an inexperienced and smaller guy like Andre Ellington. 127 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: So I wanted to kind of get your thoughts. 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: Too on the notion of coach speak and if you 129 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: think that the any way for fantasy players or analysts 130 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: like myself to cut through some of that pseudo fabricated 131 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: answer some of those pseudo fabricated answers from coaches, and 132 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you don't have to name names 133 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: or anything like that, and you're welcome more than welcome 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: to But have you. 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: Found that there are coaches. 136 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: Out there or team members who are just trying to 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: get through a press conference without giving super factual information 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: because they are a little irritated by those very player 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: specific questions. 140 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that happens. I don't think they're 141 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: trying to do that. 142 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't think any hit coaches trying to strip up 143 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: your fantasy football team. Okay, coaches inherently are not going 144 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: to reveal everything at press countences. You have to know 145 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: what you are listening to, what you're hearing, what you're reading. 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: To really be in touch that, you have to know 147 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: when a coach is effusive over a player and when 148 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: he's really effusive, especially that coach is not overly effusive 149 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: in that way with other plays. 150 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: There's just a certain sense. 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: But beyond that, I think you can't re a lot 152 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: on coaches like that to make up your fancy football team. 153 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 4: I think they could. They're just little basic facts. 154 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Number One there's the eye test, right Like I like 155 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: to put on preseason football games and watch and right 156 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: away you can see whether a guy can play or 157 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: not play. Like there are guys that just looked look 158 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: like they have it and the other guys that look 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: like they just look kind of flat. Like I'll give 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: you an example in recent years, like a Mira Abdula 161 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: ripped off a long runn against the Jets, and I 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: was like, wow, I mean who, And I got excited 163 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: about him, and I took him in like the third 164 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: or fourth round his rookie year and he didn't pan 165 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: out due to injuries. 166 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: So far, you hope he can come back. 167 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: But like he passed the eye test, a guy like 168 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: Bishop Sank he didn't do that when he was picked 169 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: in the second round. So sometimes it's the eye test. 170 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Other times, again, i'll give you an example. You follow 171 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: the money like Watergate. Okay, So when Pierre Garson becomes 172 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: a free agent, the forty nine Ers are bidding on him, 173 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: and their head coach Kyle Shannon used to coach him. 174 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams are bidding on him, and their 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: head coach Sean McVay used to coach him. So when 176 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: you got two former coaches both raising the ante on 177 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: a guy the price and the guy comes in at 178 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: a big numbers. If free, you know typically that that 179 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: guy is a pretty good player and he's gonna have 180 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: pretty good production. Also, a guy like Leonard Fournette goes four, 181 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: same spot as Ezekie Elliott. 182 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna compare the two. 183 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: They're two different running backs, two different but we don't 184 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: see running backs generally taking that high If a guy's 185 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: taking that high end and he's playing in an offense 186 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: that runs the football and doesn't want to rely on 187 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And we've heard Doug Moron I believe say 188 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: this summer that in a perfect world, he would throw 189 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the balls zero times per game. 190 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: And they've used the fourth overall pick on Leonard Fournette, like. 191 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Ding ding Ding, Leonard Fournette should have a big year 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: providing these stays healthy. Now, you can never predict injuries, 193 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: you can never do that. But you are betting on 194 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: guys that have better chances and opportunities and percentages to 195 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: hit than others. 196 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: So would you say then that you're paying more attention 197 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: or we should pay more attention to the act that 198 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: these teams are making rather than the things that these 199 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: coaches are saying. 200 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I think so, And you know, 201 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: you hear, you hear little things. You know, I talk 202 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: to organizations, and there are accounts online ESPN. 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: Dot Com, ESPN NFL Nation reporters. 204 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: You could just see little comments like, Okay, for instance, 205 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Kenny Bridge is DeShawn Kaiser looks like he has a 206 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: talent to go one of the great ones. 207 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: Okay. 208 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: Now it seems like a lofty, ambitious statement. And I 209 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: have no idea whether the Shawn k but okay, now 210 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: what that that to me is my first hint that 211 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser has impressed people. Now, there have been enough 212 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: players who have impressed early in training camp and. 213 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 4: They get into the game and they can't do it. 214 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: So there are little steps and levels to this, and 215 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: you know you're looking. 216 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: For buzz and chatter. 217 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about Dalvin Cook this summer in 218 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota impressing them. 219 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: So now my Dalvin Cook antenna is up. 220 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Okay, And you just see how he performs in the 221 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: preseason games and then you make your next judgment. And 222 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: then when you have an enough judgments, you hope that 223 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: you have enough information to make sound logical picks on 224 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: some of these players. 225 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes total sense. 226 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: Do you think that there are times where coaches are 227 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: talking up or down specific players for motivational purposes? 228 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, you have understand coaches don't talk to the media. 229 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: They talk through the media. Sure, so a coach may 230 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: be trying to send the message to a player to 231 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: motivate him or certain players handle praise and criticism in 232 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: different ways. Sometimes a coach may be wanting to pump 233 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: up a player's confidence. But again, I think you're really 234 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: stuck on this idea of coaches and what they say. 235 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: If you're leaning that much on what coaches say during 236 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: press conferences, your fancy teams probably a little bit of trouble. 237 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Perfect love. I love that answer. 238 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 239 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: I think that going back to the actions that the 240 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: teams are making is a really key takeaway for folks 241 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: if they're. 242 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me give another let me give another example. 243 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say the Philadelphia Eagles go out and 244 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: add all Sean Jeffrey and Tory Smith and free agency 245 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: and they consider that, Well, that tells you, Okay, I'm 246 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: monitoring the guys they had in place there already the 247 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Josh Huffson Jordan Matthews of the world, like if a 248 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: team's attacking that area, they have concerns if a team 249 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: dress or running back Jacksonville Leonard Fournette, that tells. 250 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: You that they've got questions about Chris Ivy and TJ. Eldon. 251 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I that's an obvious one. 252 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: But you know, look, the Green Bay Packers drafted three 253 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: running backs. To me, that tells you they are looking 254 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: to somebody to compliment Time Montgomery, that they don't want 255 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: to lean on him as much. They're hoping that one 256 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: of these guys emerges that they could scale him back some. 257 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: But we'll see whether one of those backs is good 258 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: enough to do that this summer. 259 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, makes sense. 260 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: Before we get into more of the player specific stuff, 261 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: I have to ask this because we're on the topic 262 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: of reporting and I've got your ears. 263 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a. 264 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: Breaking news item that you knew would impact your fantasy 265 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: football team and not shared that item until after making 266 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 3: a waiver wire move? Because I do feel like that's 267 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: the ultimate fantasy football mic drop. 268 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I know. 269 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Well, I will say this that you know you'd be 270 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: putting the success of your fancy team ahead of your 271 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: actual job plishing con certain out Now, I will say this. 272 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: The example that immediately comes to mind when you say 273 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: that to me is I remember I was having dinner 274 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: one night a few years back, and I got a text, 275 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: which I initially thought was a joke that the Cleveland 276 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: Browns are trading Trent Richardson to the Indianapolis Cults. And 277 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I was sitting there at dinner or the text came 278 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: in roughly, I'm not off by five minutes. The story 279 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: information came in about six oh five. Trent Richson traded 280 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: from the Browns to the Cults. And my first move 281 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: after I filed the story to ESPN and posted it 282 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter, was to go pick up I believe Willis 283 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: mcgaye on waivers in my ESPN war room league. And 284 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: by the time I got on there, Matthew Berry already 285 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I'd done that. So I picked up the next Cleveland 286 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: running back, whoever it was. 287 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: I don't even remember who it was. Neither one of 288 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: them mounted to very much. 289 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: But I will say this, when there's breaking news, yes 290 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: I am filing and immediately to. 291 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: My wife to try to move. 292 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: And my league is so savvy with sixteen teams and 293 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: people who are paying attention that by the time you 294 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: get to the wire, often times that move already has made. 295 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: Somebody's made the moves. 296 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: It's incredible how quickly people move, which in this day 297 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: and age, with how quickly information moves, you have to 298 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: be prepared at all times. 299 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so let's get more into the player specific stuff. 300 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: Because it is August, people are about to draft their 301 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: fantasy teams. They want to know what's going on with 302 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: some of these battles. I saw you tweet yesterday. I 303 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: believe that there likely won't be anything handed to Ezekiel 304 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: Elliott regarding a potential suspension at least this week. But 305 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: let me ask you this, if you were drafting a 306 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: team today, would you comfortably not select Ezekiel Elliott with 307 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: Le'Veon Bell and David Johnson where his average rapposition kind 308 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: of has been all summer? In other words, do you 309 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: think it's very possible that this thing is more than 310 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,119 Speaker 3: something like a one or two game suspension. 311 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: Look, again, we're all waiting on Zekelly like that's the 312 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: big shooter to drop in the fantasy football world and 313 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Really, to be honest with you because 314 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Kelper's played the Giants Week one of the Broncos week 315 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: two big games with lots of implications. But the truth 316 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: of the matter is nobody knows. The NFL has told 317 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: me that it has not made any decisions yet, so 318 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: we're just speculating on what could and couldn't happen. 319 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: You know. 320 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: My gut is, look, the league has said it's not 321 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna have a decision this week. My gut is they'll 322 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: do it next week after Jerry Jones is inducted into 323 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and they'll make an announcement that 324 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott is or is not being disciplined. Now, I'll 325 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: say this, and it's gonna cause more confusion than anything else. 326 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: There are people in the Cowboys organization that are convinced 327 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: that he's not gonna get anything, that he's not gonna 328 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: be disciplined, and there are other people I've spoken to 329 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: do with think he's gonna get a game or two. 330 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what's right, I really don't. I'm waiting, 331 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: like everybody else to see what the final verdict is. 332 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: They cannot get him. I don't think for the six 333 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: games for domestic violence. I think that's out the window. 334 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: So I think what you're looking at is if he 335 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: is disciplined, then if he is suspended, they would dig 336 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: him for a game or two for what the league 337 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: would determine I think is violating the personal conduct policy. 338 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: They'd say, hey, you were did in charge of the 339 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: misdemeanor for driving one hundred miles an hour. 340 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: You pull down a girl's shirt. 341 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Some of your actions have basically not reflected well on 342 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the shield of the National FOOTBA League, and we're gonna 343 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: suspend you for this. Or it could just be that 344 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: some of these people that we've talked with who think 345 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get anything, the league says, hey, we're 346 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: not going to suspend it. 347 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: Now. 348 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, It's hard to imagine that the 349 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: league is going to spend this much time over a 350 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: full year, spend this much money, had this many meetings, 351 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: spend this much work, energy, time, money, all that, and 352 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: come away after over a full year and say, Zeke Elliott, 353 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: we don't think has done anything wrong. No discipline, no suspension, 354 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: no anything like. That's hard to imagine, right. 355 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that really wouldn't make much sense. 356 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: You know, this rookie running back class this season, got 357 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: a ton of hype coming out and looking across the league, 358 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: some first year backs are in really interesting situations to 359 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: take the lead role. And I'm not talking about the 360 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: obvious Leonard Fournette situation, but some of those later round picks. 361 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: So I wanted to get your thoughts on some of 362 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: those players, starting with Joe Williams in San Francisco. Greg 363 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: Rosenthal in the Around the NFL podcast last week said 364 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: that he heard that Carlos Hide could be a surprise 365 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: training camp cut. Do you have any reason to believe that? 366 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: And if so, do you think that Joe Williams could 367 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: end up being the guy? Being that Kyle Shanahan has 368 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: that history with his father of getting those later round 369 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: running backs and kind of building them up. Do you 370 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: think that Joe Williams can end up being the starting 371 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: guy in San Francisco this year? 372 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Well, again, I don't see Carlos Hide with the salary 373 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: being what it is, with the talent being what it is, 374 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: that I don't see them releasing him. I mean that 375 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: that to me is a little bit hard to believe 376 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: anything could happen. I don't think they're trading him, and 377 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: so I don't think they're releasing him, and my guess 378 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: would be that he is on that roster on opening day. Now, 379 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how the summer un folds, the preseason plays out. 380 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that change. 381 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I never like to be absolute, you know, in early August, 382 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: because so much is so fluid. Like I remember Hugh Millen, 383 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: the former Broncos quarterback in nineteen ninety five, telling me 384 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos don't have a quote unquote stallion in their backfield. 385 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: And Thrill Davis burst onto the scene that year with 386 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: eleven hundred and seventeen yards with the start of a 387 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. 388 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: So see, you just never know how that's going to go. 389 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: You bring up the name Joe Williams, and I think 390 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: they're waiting to see how the fourth round draft pick 391 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: will go. I will give you another sleeper name that 392 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I will not be surprised if he makes an impact 393 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: this summer. And a guy that is going to make 394 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: their roster, and that's Matt Brida, who was a undrafted 395 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: frational a lot of people haven't heard of. And again 396 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: we're only through the early part of camp, so things changed. 397 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: But I believe that that guy has a chance to 398 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: make it mark this summer. 399 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: You know, I'm really intrigued by you know, you mentioned 400 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: let's see what teams are doing and look at the 401 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: actions that they're doing rather than just listening to coaches 402 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: and what they're saying. I'm really intrigued by Kareem Hunt 403 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: and the fact that the Chiefs went and moved up 404 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: in the draft to take him. You know, we know 405 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: Spencer Ware is there, but do you think that there's 406 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: any way that Kareem Hunt opens up the season with 407 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: a significant roll or do you think that's more of 408 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: something that we just have to monitor as the season 409 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 3: goes on and Spencer where is the to start? And 410 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: then Kareem Hunt just kind of slowly takes a bigger 411 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: chunk of that role. 412 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, look again, follow the actions, right, Chiefs lose Jamal Charles, 413 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs trade up to get Kareem Hunt. But I think 414 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: there's no doubt there's been a lot of buzz about 415 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. 416 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: But again, I come back to my point. 417 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: In drafts, you know, he's going somewhere around one hundred 418 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: and fiftieth overall selection, and you want to see a 419 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: guy like that in the summer. That's that's the old 420 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: eye test in the preseason to me. 421 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 4: And you know, I remember last year. It was interesting, 422 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 4: true story. 423 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: But I was talking to some Chiefs officials and it 424 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: was at this time last year, and I said, well, 425 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: who stood out of camp And one of the guys said, God, 426 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: by the name of Tarik kill. I go, really, he goes, 427 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: and I just stink to remember this. He goes, the 428 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: fastest player I've ever coached. 429 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: And I said what. 430 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: And this coach had coached a lot of great players, 431 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: and so I said that good. 432 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: He said that good. 433 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: Now he had off the field issues, major off the 434 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: field concerns coming into the NFL, which is the reason 435 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: he fell to the fifth for sixth round wherever he 436 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: was picked. But I could tell talk to that coach, 437 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, they love this guy. And I haven't 438 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: spoken to them yet to know exactly how they feel 439 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: about Kareem Hunt. 440 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: But he's certainly a guy who will all be monitoring 441 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: this summer. 442 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 443 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: And then in Washington, we've got Rob Kelly in a 444 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: pretty good situation offensively, but he never saw a significant 445 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: workload at Tulane in college, and his production dropped a 446 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: good bit over the final games of the twenty sixteen season. 447 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: Whether that's due to him breaking down our variants, that 448 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: remains to be seen. But is his job in jeopardy 449 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: with early fourth rounders samajp Ran on the depth chart 450 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: now or is that Washington coaching staff for whatever reason 451 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: believers in Rob Kelly. 452 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, JJ, if you'll allow me to plug my own podcast, 453 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: know them from out of podcast. My guess this week 454 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: it's Tyrell Davis, who knows a thing or two about 455 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: running backs. The afore mentioned Trell Davis, and I asked 456 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: him about running backs and the two rookie running backs 457 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: that he cited to me, for whatever it was worth, 458 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: were Leonard Fournette. 459 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: And Samaji p Ryan. 460 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Nice, he loves, he loves p Ran, loves p Ryan 461 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: and loves the way he runs. 462 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: Again actions they took him in the fourth round. 463 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Rob Kelly was pretty good last year, not great. He 464 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: emerged and contributed and was a factor. But I don't 465 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: know that p Ryan is going to impact their roster 466 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: as early on as a guy like Fournette will and Jacksonville. 467 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: But at some point Samaj p Ryan I believe has 468 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: the chance to grow into the starting role and the 469 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: man there in Washington. 470 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 4: Now, we'll see whether he can take advantage of it. 471 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: But you know what, I want to take Somemaji p 472 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: Run in my fantasy football drafts this year. 473 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm interested in him. 474 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: I had seen some news items on ESPN, and actually 475 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: one that you had tweeted out either yesterday or the 476 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: day before, talking about Doug Martin not regaining his lead 477 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: back role when his suspension is over. 478 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on that? 479 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: And do you think that Jaquiz Rodgers would essentially be 480 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: that guy in the best if that all plays out, 481 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: or as Jeremy McNichols, have you heard anything about him 482 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: getting some hyt. 483 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, again, we're you know, we're on these rookie backs, 484 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: and I will say this, I do think there are 485 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: a lot of rookie running backs we're gonna make their 486 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: mark this season. So maybe that's the case in Tampa too. 487 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: I do think that they really like to Quiz Rogers, 488 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: and I do think they like Doug Marton. But look, 489 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: he's starting the season as a hole. Let's just play 490 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: this out. He's gon missed the first three games due 491 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: to suspension. Doug Martin's coming back in week fourth So 492 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: let's just look at what we do know. To Quiz 493 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: Rodgers is gonna have the chance to open the season 494 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: as the Tampa Bay starting running back. And if to 495 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Quiz Rogers starts rolling the way that they did last year, 496 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: then the best Doug Martin is gonna do is get back. 497 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: A time share. 498 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Now, if Quiz struggles early on, obviously they may get 499 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: to turn to Doug, but they're gonna have to work 500 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: him back in. 501 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: So that's gonna take a couple of weeks. 502 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: And then you got the history of injuries with him, 503 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: You've got the off the field question marks with him. 504 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 505 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: So Doug Martin's been tremendous in a couple of seasons 506 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: football and fantasy wise, and he's been awful in a 507 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: few others. There's no gray area with the guys black 508 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: or white. And again he starts behind the eight ball 509 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: this year because the opportunity is something that you cannot get. 510 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 4: Right away due to the suspension that he faces for 511 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: three games. 512 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Ravens are going through injury after injury. 513 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: I think there's another injury that happened today. Are the 514 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: Ravens content going into the season. Do you think with 515 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Terrence West and Danny Wood had as sort of their 516 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: two headed monster a running back or could you see 517 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: them trying to make a move. I know that they 518 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: have cap issues that are going on, so that could 519 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: play into this as well. But do you think that 520 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: those two are the two guys that they are are 521 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: feeling okay with given the kind of Dixon injury? 522 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think the Dixon injury is a big 523 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: loss for them. 524 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: He was a guy that was going to be suspended. 525 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: For four games, but he was a guy that I 526 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: think they thought had the chance to really shine and 527 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: break out and be a potential significant factor this season. 528 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: That that obviously is not going to happen. He's out 529 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: for the year. 530 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: That leaves Terrence West that Danny Wood head. 531 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: I think. I think there are always running backs available. 532 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: It's not an ideal situation, but when you look at 533 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: it right now, right, they also have Lorenzo Telfarro, Buck Allen. 534 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: They have Bobby Rainey, who they signed towards the being 535 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: a K. So they've done with they can adding that roster. 536 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Now you're always gonna be mining the waiver wire looking 537 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: to see who's got extra running backs, and they can 538 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: always add another running back, but it's not like there's 539 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: some great running backs. 540 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: D'angela Williams I think would be helpful. 541 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's an interesting name, but again, to 542 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: my knowledge, nothing's percolating there right now, and they and 543 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: they do have some backs. Again, now it's time to 544 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: see what some of these other guys can do in 545 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: training camp. 546 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: So let me ask you about a player who could 547 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: arguably be the most athletic running back in this class, 548 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: and that's Joe Mixon. You know, people are talking up, 549 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: talking up Joe Bernard a decent bit right now. Jeremy 550 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Hill has gotten worse and worse every single season in 551 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 3: the NFL. Do you think that Joe Mixon is somewhat 552 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: of a lock to be the starting guy when the 553 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: season begins? 554 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of people feel that way, 555 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: and I think when you look at it, there is 556 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: not another team in the NFELL that's run the ball 557 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: from the running back position any more than Cincinnati. Carolina 558 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: and the Bengals have had the most rushing attempts in 559 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: recent seasons, and Carolina includes Cam Newton. Andy Dalton's not 560 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: running a lot, so there clearly is an opportunity and 561 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: again follow the actions that Bengals took him in a 562 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Round two when they didn't have to. 563 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: They loved him. 564 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought Joe Mixon could be potentially 565 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: the most talented running back in the train. There's a 566 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of Joe Mixon love out there. He's not gonna 567 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: be on the board very long in most drafts. I 568 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: think z average draft position these days is somewhere around 569 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: forty or so. 570 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 571 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get him in the late third ish. 572 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 573 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So. 574 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: To me, you know, I'll be honest. I want to 575 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: see him in the preseason. That's not today I'm questioning him. 576 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: I just want to see it. I want to see 577 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: what he looks like out there. Does he look fast, 578 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: does he look like he belongs? I want to see 579 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: that before I am committing to Joe Mixon. 580 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: Gotcha. 581 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna group these next two guys together, even 582 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: though they're on separate team, to play super positions. But 583 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: should anyone be worrying about what's going on with Andrew 584 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: Luck right now? And then also Martavis Bryan still not reinstated. 585 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: Is that just something that's that's going to come eventually? 586 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there are questions about Andrew Luck. It 587 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: seems to have been just very quiet, very hush hush. 588 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: I think there are quiet concerns there about when he's 589 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: gonna be ready. 590 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 4: He might be ready for the opener, but he might 591 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 4: not be right. We just don't know. 592 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: Even he set himself this day, he doesn't know. He's 593 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: not gonna rush it. So to me, I don't know 594 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: how you could bank on that right now, that if 595 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: you're drafting Angeluck, you're drafting another quarterback as well. And 596 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: if you're drafting angel Luck, you're using a relatively high 597 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: pick on him. 598 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: And if you're using a high pick on. 599 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: Him right now, you don't nobody's gonna be ready and 600 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: that you can so that it's just very risky. And 601 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: that's the whole idea of fancy anyway, right is to 602 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: limit risk and to go with the highest percentage chance 603 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: of hitting. 604 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: And there's a big question mark about Angelock right now. 605 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: So yes, I would be concerned there just because of 606 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: everything we've seen in her. So fart as for Martamos Bryan, 607 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: I think he gets reinstated. I think that it looks 608 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: like he's figured out something. 609 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: You know. Again, I remember talking to Dangelo Williams. 610 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: A few weeks back in my podcast, I said, who's 611 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: the one guy that just blows you away in terms 612 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: of his abilities? 613 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: Like Martavos Bryan is a total freak. 614 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: Do you guys bigger than anybody out there, faster than 615 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: anybody out there. His touchdown catch. 616 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: Rate is off the charts. 617 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: So again, I think in a way, I know it's 618 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna sound kind of crazy, but Martamos Bryant today looks 619 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: like a safer pick right now that could be totally 620 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: different two weeks from now, three weeks from now, right 621 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: now better fantasy season than Andrew Luck. 622 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: But we'll see. 623 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: There are there are three veteran potential probable Hall of 624 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: famers that have changed teams, and Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles 625 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: and Marshawn Lynch now they're in new places. Do one 626 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: of these guys really jump out to you as someone 627 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: who the team is incredibly interested in being their lead 628 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: back and being very fantasy relevant this season. 629 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Well, I listen, no disrespect to anyone, but I think 630 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: there are questions that all three of them have to answer. Right, 631 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles is in a perfect world, the Broncos wanted 632 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: to have eight to ten touches a game. 633 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: So from a fancy a standpoint, you know you're not 634 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: counting on Jamal Charles the way that you have another years. 635 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's with mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara another back 636 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: that they really like that in New Orleans. So that's 637 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: three backs, and everybody says he's comed in looking rejuvenated, 638 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: looking refreshed, looking spray young. And I would never question 639 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: the power drive determination of Adrian Peterson. I just in 640 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: that system with all those backs, I just won't wonder. 641 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 4: How much work he's gonna get. 642 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: Now, maybe mark ingram Spring's ankle this summer missed a 643 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: few games and Adrian Peterson becomes a workhorse that that 644 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't shocked me. But uh, Adrian Peterson draft position average 645 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: draft position right now is somewhere around. 646 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: In the sixties. 647 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's about right, That's about right. And 648 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: then Marshawn Lynch, you know, Derek Carr said he looks 649 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: unbelievable that he's put putting his face into other people's 650 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: faces and looks like a man. And I know Jack 651 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Delrell posted a video of how quick Marshan looked, which 652 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: I know. 653 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: People were quick to jump on there, which they missed 654 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: a point. 655 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: They said, Oh, yeah, well he's running against people not 656 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: in pads seven or seven drill. 657 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: Big deal. 658 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: Well, if the head coach is posting the video of 659 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: the guy, that tells you that the head coach is 660 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: sitting there on his projector going, oh my god, look 661 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: at this guy. Look it how quick he looks. So 662 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I think that they're really impressed with him. There are 663 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: questions about when the guy. The last year he played, 664 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: his yards per carry average was down, he had injuries, 665 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: he's another year older, he's had a football a year, 666 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: and so we'll see, you know, Listen, I drafted Marshaw 667 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: on a couple of years and then I got scared 668 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: of the age and the way he runs. 669 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: And I've been wrong every year on the guy, like 670 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: the last few years. 671 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Okay, basically, so I don't want to undersell that guy 672 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: because he's a man. Ever, But again, I think there's 673 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: questions about all those backs. 674 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: There's a reason that they're all going where they are. 675 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Like I said Adrian Peterson in the sixties, Marshawn Lynn 676 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: his average repositions like around two or three. So that's 677 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: rather rich for me and Jamal Chrawle's average repositions in 678 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: one hundred. 679 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's free basically. 680 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, no real risk there. 681 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense. 682 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: You know, I do want to ask you, are there 683 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: any coaching moves that happened this offseason that you think 684 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: could make a bigger impact than people are giving a 685 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: credit for. An example that jumps to mind for me 686 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: is Greg Roman becoming offensive assistant in Baltimore because they've 687 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: thrown the ball more than any other team in the 688 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: last two years, and him being a run first coach 689 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: and having that run first mentality. It jumped out to 690 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: me as a team that might want to try or 691 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: is trying to at least be a little bit more balanced. 692 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: Is there are there any moves like that? And could 693 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: be a head coach too? 694 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: There are two that jump out to me right away. 695 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Oh, actually three, the first one and again follow the 696 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: actions right. Everybody thinks of San Francisco and the Rams 697 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: as offensive wastelands, and they have been buying large right. 698 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: Not a lot has happened there. Their production has been down. 699 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want very many fancy players from those teams 700 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: in recent years. But if forty nine ers go Getkyle 701 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: sha On the hand, the Rams go get Sean mcfaith Again, 702 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: people are gonna be think thinking of those players Pierre 703 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: Garson and Robert Woods and Todd Gurley as players that 704 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: they don't want. They're gonna be devalued and we'll see 705 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: how they're fair. But I just think that the forty 706 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: nine Ers and Rams are on sale this year. 707 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: In certain spots, there are gonna be certain guys. They're 708 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: gonna be great values. 709 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: The other spot, and when we alluded to it before 710 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: was in Jacksonville, where they're making no secret effect that 711 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: they want to run. 712 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: The ball every play. Doug Morone loves to run the ball. 713 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: Tom Kapplin loves to run the football. 714 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're going back to old fashion football, 715 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: particularly and having a quarterback that I don't think that 716 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: they fully trust. 717 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that every coaching move in packs how a 718 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 4: team is gonna play. You know, Buffalo is gonna be 719 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: better defensively under Shaan Wick determined, I would think. 720 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's gonna more disciplined or whatever you 721 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: want to say. Every team's gonna have a different personality 722 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: that makes a head coaching change, coordinator changes, and the 723 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: coordinator changes come out down, but those three stand out 724 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: to me. Niners, Rams, Jaguars. 725 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: Love it, so before I let you go at them, 726 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: I want one quarterback, running back, wide receiver, or a 727 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: tight end. Just one guy who you've been hearing tons 728 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: and tons of buzz about that who could shock people 729 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: in fantasy football this year, and maybe just a player 730 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: that you are going to be drafting a ton in 731 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: fantasy leagues this season. 732 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I think Pierre Garson, to our point, would be a 733 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: guy in a P PERR league that would be valuable. 734 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna catch a lot of passes. 735 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Again, you follow the money, you see the way the 736 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: teams pursued him. He's being drafted in the nineties one 737 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: hundred somewhere around there, and I just think that he'll 738 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: be a better value than that this year. Some of 739 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: those rookie running backs we talked about p RN and 740 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Hunt and McCaffrey and Fournette and Dalvin Cookee. I like 741 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: the rookie running back class. I'd like to get one 742 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: or two of those guys. 743 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Awesome. 744 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: That will surely not stop the Pierre Garson bandwagon. But Adam, 745 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining me on the show 746 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: for the thirteen football fans across this country who aren't 747 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: following Chefty on Twitter. You can do so at Adam 748 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: Schefter and I'm on there as well at Late Round QB. 749 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: And don't forget to subscribe to. 750 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: The show by searching for the Late Round podcast pretty 751 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: much anywhere podcasts can be found, and if you're on iTunes, 752 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: a rating and review would be greatly greatly appreciated. Don't 753 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: forget to tune in on Friday when this week's mailbag 754 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: episode is out. Until then, get Pierre Garson before his 755 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: average draft position rises even more