WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #1

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media Welcome, there could happen here. We decided

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<v Speaker 1>every week you were going to do in episode called

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Disorders White House Weekly, where we report the news,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we are going to start that episode. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the entire full time team here. We have Mio Wong,

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison Davis, Robert Evans, James Stout, and I am the

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<v Speaker 1>voice in your ear, Sophie Lichterman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you should know we'll be making a number

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<v Speaker 2>of references to a show you haven't watched, called The

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<v Speaker 2>News Rooms. So many we didn't just pretend we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyways, let's do the episode now go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So this episode's also going to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>different because the idea is to cover each week of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that's happening visa via the White House. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>been two weeks since since Inauguration Day, and we are

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<v Speaker 4>recording usually on Wednesdays, so the you know, a day

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<v Speaker 4>or two there that we will record the week after.

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<v Speaker 4>But we have a whole bunch of stuff today because

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<v Speaker 4>we are covering essentially two weeks. All start with some

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<v Speaker 4>of the transgender executive orders that happened last week. There

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<v Speaker 4>was an order defining two sexes assigned at conception, which

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<v Speaker 4>made plenty of biologists scratch their heads. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>this is just going to impact the ability to change

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<v Speaker 4>your gender marker on federal documents for the next four years,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, passports also removing the ex gender marker from

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<v Speaker 4>federal documents. There's also a new directive that Pride flags

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<v Speaker 4>are not to be flown on federal buildings. Also a

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<v Speaker 4>separate one I don't think we have included here in

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<v Speaker 4>the research doc but how brutalist and modernist architecture is

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<v Speaker 4>now not allowed to be used on new federal buildings.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to use Greek or Roman inspired architecture because

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<v Speaker 4>they project power. So all of those, like Greek have

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<v Speaker 4>what our statue Twitter accounts have a complete cultural victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, uh great, I am going to agitate to replace

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<v Speaker 2>the Oregon State capital with just a statue of a

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<v Speaker 2>Roman orgy. You know, we don't even need place for

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<v Speaker 2>the legislators. Just look at the statue and you'll know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>This actually is like bad, you know, very very nineteen thirties, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, yeah, yeah, famously no other regimes have hawken back

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<v Speaker 5>to Clauds Calera well.

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<v Speaker 4>And specifically is like calling like you know, modern architecture,

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<v Speaker 4>brutalist architecture, as you know, is like weak or bad

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<v Speaker 4>or things that get restricted.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>On a more somber note, part of this two sex

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<v Speaker 4>that conception thing also means that a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>trans women are now being sent to men's prisons. And

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot of this stuff is stuff that we

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<v Speaker 4>knew was going to happen, and it did happen quite immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is just the start.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll throw over to MIA for some more

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<v Speaker 4>executive action done on the WOKA gender ideology angle.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but by the time we're finished recording this, there

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<v Speaker 6>might be another anti trans executive order. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 6>that end. But the big ones for right now is

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<v Speaker 6>that Trump is trying to do a and this is

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<v Speaker 6>something we talked about in our in our last episode

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<v Speaker 6>about what's gonna look like with trans people, but a

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<v Speaker 6>federal funding ban for trans healthcare, which means for for

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<v Speaker 6>youth trans healthcare, which means any provider that like gets

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<v Speaker 6>federal funding and this and this includes things like taking

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<v Speaker 6>Medicare and Medicaid right those like hospitals can't do any

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<v Speaker 6>kind of gender for a main care for youth.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of what's sort of terrifying.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's a lot of terrible stuff about this,

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<v Speaker 6>but they've they've defined a kid as age nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Or under the age of nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, under the age of nineteen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, like that gives you know, worries for stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>we've been talking about for years for how they might

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<v Speaker 4>try to start bumping up the age for these for

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<v Speaker 4>these HRT bands. This also could be them not really

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<v Speaker 4>realizing what they're doing to some extent, because this could

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<v Speaker 4>also just be copying I believe in Alabama or Arkansas

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<v Speaker 4>ban and that was like the highest age used in

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<v Speaker 4>any of these like state healthcare bans. They could just

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<v Speaker 4>be copying that over because it is the highest one.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I'm not sure how much they've like thought about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, their capacity to start like you know, arbitrarily

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<v Speaker 4>raising that number.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, part of what I think is happening, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think this because this was definitely at play in

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<v Speaker 2>the Alabama ban is this is, in addition to being

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<v Speaker 2>an attack on trans people, part of a broader set

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<v Speaker 2>of messaging towards the Parents' Ranks movement, which very much

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<v Speaker 2>does not consider eighteen year olds to be adults.

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<v Speaker 6>Totally, totally, yeah. And on that note, one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things they're trying to do is target states that have

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<v Speaker 6>like transanctuary laws by trying to like get parents who

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<v Speaker 6>take their kids to save states like charged on kidnapping

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<v Speaker 6>charges and so forth, noting supposedly later today there's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be one about using the Charney General's Office to

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<v Speaker 6>work with the charity generals in states who prosecute teachers

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<v Speaker 6>to use gender firming pronouns as like sexual users. And

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<v Speaker 6>I want to point out like these executive orders specifically,

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<v Speaker 6>like the second raft of them that I've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 6>Like these are all unbelievably legal, right, yeah, Like these

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<v Speaker 6>are probably not going to get implemented immediately because there's

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<v Speaker 6>immediately going to go to the courts, Like the Supreme

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<v Speaker 6>Court will probably give them some of it. But like

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<v Speaker 6>you can't just like declare something a crime and have

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<v Speaker 6>the Attorney General prosecute people for it. Like that specific

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<v Speaker 6>thing is genuinely so ridiculous that it might not survive

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<v Speaker 6>the Supreme Court. It's nonsense. But things that aren't nonsense,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is something you genuinely can do that's very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he's trying to get and this is from per

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<v Speaker 6>Aaron Reid. He's a trans journalist, does pretty good work

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<v Speaker 6>on this stuff. The federal government has been instructed to

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<v Speaker 6>not follow w PATH guidelines or WPATH is this sort

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<v Speaker 6>of organization that sets the guidelines for like trends healthcare

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<v Speaker 6>and this. We don't know what this is going to do.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a chance that this could endanger private like

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<v Speaker 6>Healthcare covering it because they follow the government using WPATH.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's extremely extremely bad. But again, and this is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be a running theme in the next section

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<v Speaker 6>of this. A lot of this is stuff that he

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<v Speaker 6>shouldn't need Congress for and he's just trying to do

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<v Speaker 6>it because he thinks that he can and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>give a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's just signaling to the base even if

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<v Speaker 2>it gets stopped, like he's I think, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he cares if decent chunks that it gets stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>He tried to do the thing. Yeah, I agree with Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he can now shift the blame to someone else. Look, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I did the executive order, which honestly is what Biden

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<v Speaker 2>should have done on some stuff, right, fuck it? Ye

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<v Speaker 2>make the statement, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, so speaking of fuck it, let's get into

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<v Speaker 6>this whole, this whole freezing the entire federal government thing.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna do a more detailed episode about this next week.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe the.

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<v Speaker 6>Most unhanged thing that he's done so far than the

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<v Speaker 6>birthright stuff, he did an executive order that's telling everyone

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<v Speaker 6>they can't fund DEI. Yeah, early this week, the US

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<v Speaker 6>Office of Personnel Management sent out this memo to everyone

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<v Speaker 6>telling them that, like all grant programs are frozen until

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<v Speaker 6>they submit a like they submitted a description of like

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<v Speaker 6>what the grant program is and why it's not DEI

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<v Speaker 6>and so like think things that were like fucked by this, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a few of these programs and they were

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<v Speaker 6>the grants they were shutting down. Here, the Nicholas and

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<v Speaker 6>Zachary Burt Memorial carbon Monoxide Poisoning Program, WHOA, the National

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<v Speaker 6>School Lunch Program, Special Milk Program for children, the Supplemental

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<v Speaker 6>Nutrition Program for Women, infants, and children, the do d's

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<v Speaker 6>Basic and Applied Scientific Research Grants DEI DI.

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<v Speaker 3>It's even got a D right in there.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, like one of these and this is a

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<v Speaker 6>very serious one at least for these people holding onto

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<v Speaker 6>power was the National Guard's military operation and maintenance samously low,

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<v Speaker 6>which like it's like it's like eight billion dollars of

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<v Speaker 6>money to the National Guard.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, critical support. He got one thing right.

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<v Speaker 6>The way that you can tell that none of these people,

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<v Speaker 6>and the thing is a sign of is that none

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<v Speaker 6>of these people have any idea what's going on inside

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<v Speaker 6>of the state. They don't understand what it is. They

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<v Speaker 6>don't understand what it does. And I can prove this

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<v Speaker 6>for a fact because one of the programs that they

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<v Speaker 6>froze was a program that gives money to police to

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<v Speaker 6>do patrols outside of a nuclear weapons assembly plan. Joey,

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<v Speaker 6>they defunded the nuke police, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Check the Signal Loop gang.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got a plan based on that we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna become the first nuclear armed podcasting network.

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<v Speaker 6>So so like I think I think people have this

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<v Speaker 6>conception that, like, you know, they're operating according to a plan.

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<v Speaker 6>These are all sort of strategic like strokes and masters strokes,

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<v Speaker 6>and like no, they're just they're just lashing out right,

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<v Speaker 6>They're driven by pure anger and they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 6>this purge of the government of anything woke or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>like anything that's like vaguely involves non white people or

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<v Speaker 6>just like anyone who's not assists white dude they're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get rid of. Yeah, and this memo was immediately

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<v Speaker 6>challenged in court because it's also this is also hideously illegal.

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<v Speaker 6>The president doesn't control the purse strings. That's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in the Constitution, it says that Congress controls this. So

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<v Speaker 6>where we're at now is that the memo has been withdrawn,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's there's a bunch of really conflicting information where

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<v Speaker 6>like Trump spokespeople are saying that they're still going to

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<v Speaker 6>go through with the executive orders.

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<v Speaker 4>They're probably gonna try to rewrite it. They might make

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<v Speaker 4>it more targeted against you know, woke whatever that means. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it may not be as like broad as this as

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<v Speaker 4>this initial memo, but they're certainly going to try again.

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<v Speaker 6>But the problem that they have is that there's there

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<v Speaker 6>are literally so many of these grants and the read

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<v Speaker 6>the reason they did it this way in the first

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<v Speaker 6>place was because they just they just they found a

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<v Speaker 6>list of grants, they copied all of them, and they

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<v Speaker 6>were like, okay, departments, you have to go figure this out,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're freezing your stuff until you do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Even Medicaid was frozen for a few hours yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Like, they effectively nuked most of the capacity of

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<v Speaker 6>the federal governments, and it's going to take a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of effort for them to sort through which of these

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<v Speaker 6>things they could afford to turn off so that they

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<v Speaker 6>don't end up like turning off the nuke police.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, critical support to abolishing the nuclear security.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they did what Biden couldn't do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's go on a quick ad break and then

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<v Speaker 4>we will return to report more of the news. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>we are back. I guess I will turn over to

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<v Speaker 4>our Immigration and Border correspondent, James Stout.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please report the news.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm ready to report the news. I have never been

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<v Speaker 5>more ready. Okay, this is going to be a long

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<v Speaker 5>run because there was a raft of executive orders about

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<v Speaker 5>the border in the flurry flurry Yeah, sound the word

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<v Speaker 5>we're allowed to use a flurry Okay, we can use

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<v Speaker 5>a murder like crows, you know the connective down for crows.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this is going to result in a murder. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so let's start with a couple of the big ones, right.

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<v Speaker 5>The first one was essentially revoking the right to asylum

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<v Speaker 5>to anyone quote engaged in the invasion across the southern

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<v Speaker 5>border end quote. I want to highlight this invasion language

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<v Speaker 5>because obviously, like I'd adventure to say, I've spent more

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<v Speaker 5>time at the southern border of the United States sent

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<v Speaker 5>anyone in the executive branch, and most people reporting on

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<v Speaker 5>it too. The idea of an invasion is laughable. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been at the border twice since Trump was inaugurated. It's

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<v Speaker 5>extremely quiet. I've never seen things more quiet. The only

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<v Speaker 5>remarkable thing I saw was a pig of Vietnamese pop

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<v Speaker 5>Belied Big, which some people have released, which now lives there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's being rehomed because of some other stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that we will talk about later. But this invasion language

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<v Speaker 5>is important because it's used as a justification for some

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that the executive Branch is doing which

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<v Speaker 5>would otherwise seem to be outside of its authority. It's

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<v Speaker 5>getting the national security encounter terrorism treatment, and anyone who's

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<v Speaker 5>followed US politics for the last twenty years will understand

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<v Speaker 5>that that means an effective waiver for all of your

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<v Speaker 5>constitutional rights. And my have always been people who don't

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<v Speaker 5>have rights, and this is just something that we're now

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<v Speaker 5>seeing like further pushed.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go through some of these orders.

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<v Speaker 5>Aside from the effective asylum ban, he directed the United

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<v Speaker 5>States Northern Command to quote unquote seal the border. This

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<v Speaker 5>has resulted in a deployment of about sixteen hundred United

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<v Speaker 5>States troops. Most of them are military police or engineers.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got marines, and we've got army in San Diego

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<v Speaker 5>Sectory its first marines out of Pendleton. They're the ones

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<v Speaker 5>that I've seen locally. He has directed various government departments

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<v Speaker 5>and the Attorney General to begin quote identifying countries throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the world for which vetting and screening information is so

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<v Speaker 5>deficient as to warrant a partial full suspension on the

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<v Speaker 5>omission of nationals from those countries. This is effectively the

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<v Speaker 5>travel ban that we saw in the first Trap administration,

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<v Speaker 5>or a version of that. Right, it's a visa revocation

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<v Speaker 5>or a travel ban for people from certain countries. We

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<v Speaker 5>can guess what those countries will be. At last time,

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<v Speaker 5>they were for the most part, majority Muslim countries, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And we might well see that again.

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<v Speaker 5>They have attempted to rescind birthright citizenship for children of

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<v Speaker 5>undocumented families.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>This is one if people go back to our like

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<v Speaker 5>what can Trump do for mass deportations podcasts that Robert

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<v Speaker 5>Sophie and I did sometime in November, I think you'll

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<v Speaker 5>get more information there on what is and what is

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<v Speaker 5>not possible than we have time to go into today.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're seeing a lot of the things that we

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<v Speaker 5>talked about there coming into reality now. I guess specifically,

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<v Speaker 5>the attempt to resin birthright citizenship relies on the idea

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<v Speaker 5>that they are not quote unquote under the jurisdiction thereof

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<v Speaker 5>of the United States, which which is how the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 5>Amendment is phrased. Generally, it is understood that people who

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<v Speaker 5>are not considered to be under the jurisdiction of the

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<v Speaker 5>United States and therefore don't get citizenship when they're born

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<v Speaker 5>here are the children of diplomats because they have some

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<v Speaker 5>diplomatic community, right, so they're not necessarily governed by United

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<v Speaker 5>States laws in all areas, and that is why children

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<v Speaker 5>of diplomats don't get citizenship people when they're born here.

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<v Speaker 5>The Trump administration is arguing that applies to children of

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<v Speaker 5>undocumented people as well. There are five court cases challenging

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<v Speaker 5>that already so that they've got an upp battle in

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<v Speaker 5>the courts there. He has attempted to restart the Migrant

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<v Speaker 5>Protection Protocol MPP, better known as Remain in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The Migrant Protection Protocol requires migrants to wait in Mexico

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<v Speaker 5>whether immigration cases are processed. In practice, it puts them

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<v Speaker 5>in a lot of danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of them are fleeing Mexico. Others are fleeing groups

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<v Speaker 5>or states that can reach them in Mexico, so it

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<v Speaker 5>leaves them in an unsafe place. The other thing he

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<v Speaker 5>did while Trump was still in the inaugural ceremonies literally

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<v Speaker 5>minutes after taking office, was canceling CBP one CBP one.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a lot of misinformation about what CBP one is.

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<v Speaker 5>CBP one is an application that allowed migrants to make

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<v Speaker 5>an appointment and they had to be either in southern

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<v Speaker 5>border states of Mexico or north of Mexico's city. They

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<v Speaker 5>could then make an appointment to approach a United States

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<v Speaker 5>port of entry, those that are places where you can

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<v Speaker 5>enter across the land border and make their case for

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<v Speaker 5>their asylum right, do their first asylum interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is like following the law, like this is

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<v Speaker 4>like the process.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, making a CBP one appointment is quote unquote the

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<v Speaker 5>right way exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a legal right to enter between ports of

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<v Speaker 5>entry and still make an asylum claim, which is what

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<v Speaker 5>we saw in their outdoor attention situation, right, But doing

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<v Speaker 5>it via CBP one is like the belt embraces correct

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<v Speaker 5>way to do it. People who had appointments at noon

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<v Speaker 5>Pacific on the day Trump was inaugurated, sow those appointments counseled.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't make appointments anymore CBP one, it's gone. Those

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<v Speaker 5>people who have waited an average of nine months in

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous places have wasted their time. They now don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a pathway to asylum in this country. If you go

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<v Speaker 5>back to my episodes on the Daddi and Gap, you

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<v Speaker 5>will hear some of those people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Those people are now stuck in Mexico without really

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<v Speaker 3>any legal means to enter the United States and c asylum.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump has directed ICE to increase detention capacity. We spoke

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<v Speaker 5>about this in our previous podcast. Don't like the amount

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<v Speaker 5>of detention beds they would need to hit. The thirteen

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<v Speaker 5>million deportations they talked about is immense, but one of

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<v Speaker 5>the things they are doing is starting to house it's

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<v Speaker 5>people whose countries won't accept them for deportation, right, which

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<v Speaker 5>is a thing that has happened. The United States has

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<v Speaker 5>begun using military aircraft for deportations in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to stress that this isn't a capacity issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Biden deported eight thousand people in a month in the

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<v Speaker 5>September to October of twenty twenty one. Trump is aiming

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<v Speaker 5>to hit five thousand. Biden did it all with contractor flights.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is doing a lower number and using air force flights.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not because he can't get the contractors. It's

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<v Speaker 5>purely an aesthetic choice, and it's an aesthetic choice which

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<v Speaker 5>has roughfled enough feathers in South and Central America that

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<v Speaker 5>you have Honduras saying that they're going to revote the

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<v Speaker 5>US mission to have a military base in Hondolas as

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<v Speaker 5>a mistreat migrants. We had Columbia briefly refusing US military

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<v Speaker 5>flights with deportees, Mexico doing the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Briefly entering a trade war with Columbia. Yeah, yes, which

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<v Speaker 4>lasted about two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>The one hour trade war at about the same length

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<v Speaker 2>as the Civil War in Western Yugoslavia.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the trade war with Columbia was averted when Columbia

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<v Speaker 5>sent its own military plane to get these deportees.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Columbia caved immediately.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, then they will continue to accept US deportees as

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<v Speaker 5>they have done for a long time. Right again, if

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<v Speaker 5>you listen to my Darien series, you'll hear of some

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<v Speaker 5>Colombian people being deported. We're now getting into things that

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<v Speaker 5>are like more. These are orders that we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 5>realized yet. One of them is he is. He has

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<v Speaker 5>talked about having the Attorney General remove as far as

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<v Speaker 5>possible federal funding from so called sanctuary jurisdictions.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>These are normally places where local law enforcement were cooperates

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<v Speaker 5>with federal immigration enforcement. ICE makes a majority of its

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<v Speaker 5>detentions from people who are already detained.

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<v Speaker 4>People who are like arrested by police, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly for whatever. Then those police notify ICE and ICE

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<v Speaker 5>come get them. We've seen a lot more of door

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<v Speaker 5>to door ICE raids in the last two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 5>they've been ramping up even really really this week. But

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<v Speaker 5>ever since Trump was inaugurated, we've seen ICE attempting to

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<v Speaker 5>enter people's homes. Often they just have a warrant issued

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<v Speaker 5>by themselves rather than they judicial warrant. So we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>people refusing to let them into their homes. We've also

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<v Speaker 5>seen the removal of the quote unquote sensitive places doctrine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>sensitive places had previously been understood to be schools, churches,

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<v Speaker 5>and hospitals. Now ICE is conducting quote unquote enforcement operations

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<v Speaker 5>in those places. Those are actually places like the sensitive

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<v Speaker 5>places doctrine have been in place for a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>This wasn't like a Biden thing. This was This has

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<v Speaker 5>been a long term thing. So ICE is now and

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<v Speaker 5>we've seen immigration actions conducted at like a church in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance. We've seen I think they were actually Secret

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<v Speaker 5>Service agents who identified themselves as an ICE agent, sort

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<v Speaker 5>of school in Chicago because a childhood posted an anti

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<v Speaker 5>Trump video. And then I guess. The last thing that

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<v Speaker 5>we are seeing is this designation of organized crime groups

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<v Speaker 5>as foreign terrorist organizations. This is an interesting one. We

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<v Speaker 5>haven't really seen any action on this yet, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>one of his executive orders.

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<v Speaker 3>In day one in his.

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<v Speaker 5>First administration, he designated Iran Kuld Force as a foreign

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<v Speaker 5>terrorist organization and then proceeded to kill their leader. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>So this FDO designation opens up the possibility of a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of like covert activity I'm talking like the CIA

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<v Speaker 5>and like Tier I special forces units. It also allows

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<v Speaker 5>him to bring about economic sanctions on any one material

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<v Speaker 5>really supporting these organized crime organizations. In practice, that would

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<v Speaker 5>encompass huge swaths of the Mexican economy, right, because there

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<v Speaker 5>are people in agriculture, people in business who are paying

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<v Speaker 5>protection or they're being extorted to pay money, right, And

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<v Speaker 5>so in theory, those people are now materially belefating a

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<v Speaker 5>tent terrorist organization and they could be sanctioned as well.

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<v Speaker 5>We will have to see how this plays out, I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>and that there's still the directive was to look into

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<v Speaker 5>and then name these groups.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and it's something that heg Seth has previously been

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<v Speaker 4>in favor of and he has now been confirmed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, Hegzeth has talked about using special forces in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, and this was Agenda forty seven stuff. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been talking about this for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it's also in our Agenda forty seven episodes.

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<v Speaker 5>If people want to go back, there a direct action

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<v Speaker 5>rate in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Drone warfare in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously doing this without the permission of the Mexican government

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<v Speaker 5>would be an act of war, right like killing foreign

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<v Speaker 5>nationals without the permission of their government. Conducting direct action

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<v Speaker 5>raids bombing another country like that, that is an act

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<v Speaker 5>of war. The US has had an fid FED Foreign

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<v Speaker 5>Internal Defense Mission right where it trains advisors and assists

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<v Speaker 5>Mexican law enforcement and military for a long time. The

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<v Speaker 5>guys who arrested El Chappa, for instance, were trained I

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<v Speaker 5>think by Mars Sock. But this has been happening for

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<v Speaker 5>a long time. But to go from that to unsanctioned

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<v Speaker 5>direct action would be a huge, a huge step up.

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<v Speaker 5>The only really analogous, directly analogous thing I can think

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<v Speaker 5>of is Clinton with a planned Columbia designating FARC as

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<v Speaker 5>a foreign terrorist organization, But that was very much with

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<v Speaker 5>the cooperation and support of the Colombian government. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 5>a much more adversarial relationship between the United States and

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<v Speaker 5>Mexico right now. The last thing I want to mention

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<v Speaker 5>is that this deployment, I've spoken about it, but they

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<v Speaker 5>are about sixteen hundred troops deployed right now. Biden deployed

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen hundred troops in the summer of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not a vastly different number that they are

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<v Speaker 5>doing different things. They seem to be chucking razor wire

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<v Speaker 5>on top of the wall and being photographed there two

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<v Speaker 5>major jobs at the moment. We will see how that

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<v Speaker 5>plays out. Also, with reference to military, Trump immediately canceled

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<v Speaker 5>the refugee resettlement program. This left people all over the

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<v Speaker 5>world stranded, including Afghans, many of whom worked for the

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<v Speaker 5>United States or family members of US service people. Their

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<v Speaker 5>refugee resettlement program, people don't come to the southern border.

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<v Speaker 5>They go do all their background things and then fly

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<v Speaker 5>into the United States to different status to entering and

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<v Speaker 5>claiming asylum. Those people, many of whom had booked flights,

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<v Speaker 5>found their flights were canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>They're now stranded.

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<v Speaker 5>Lots of them were stranded in Pakistan and facing immigration

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<v Speaker 5>enforcement there in the case of the Afghans. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that is a speed run of all the terrible Trump

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<v Speaker 5>immigration executive orders. We'll be reporting on this pretty extensively,

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<v Speaker 5>so you can keep coming back for more. But another

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<v Speaker 5>thing that we have more of right now is advertisements.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we are back. I have a few other notes.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to add for the woke front that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>reporting on right now, I think it's been a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of conflation between you know, like DEI and like what

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<v Speaker 4>we would consider like affirmative action. DEI refers to like

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<v Speaker 4>these specific like corporate training policies and diversity initiatives, which is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, separate from long standing affirmative action policies, which

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<v Speaker 4>has been used both in the corporate world and in

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<v Speaker 4>like the government for like decades at this point. And

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<v Speaker 4>what a whole bunch of this DEI rollback type stuff

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<v Speaker 4>is essentially doing is just openly discriminating against people who

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<v Speaker 4>are not like straight white men. It's like, if you

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<v Speaker 4>are a straight white man, we cannot hire you because

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<v Speaker 4>that would mean we are doing DEI. And like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what a lot of the stuff that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>kind of looks like. There was a mass email to

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<v Speaker 4>federal agencies about DEI and calls to report DEI policy

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<v Speaker 4>in their department if they're going by like other names, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So that would be stuff like affirmative action, right, if

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<v Speaker 4>there's anything that that is about, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 4>trying to increase the diversity in your workforce or any

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote woke topics, including you know, gender ideology, anything

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<v Speaker 4>anything that seems vaguely woke. You're supposed to now report

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that gets removed because that's not part

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<v Speaker 4>of the new federal government. I believe someone from the

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<v Speaker 4>NSA did leave a tip on that email line reporting

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<v Speaker 4>reporting DEI masquerading as as another name. Similar to this,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a memo or an email that was leaked

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<v Speaker 4>to Ken Klippenstein from the Defense Intelligence Agency which basically

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<v Speaker 4>said that they're not going to be observing any any

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<v Speaker 4>woke holidays, including Martin Luther King Junior's Birthday, Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 4>Women's History Months, the Holocaust Remembrance Day, Asian American Pacific

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<v Speaker 4>Islander Heritage Month, Pride Month, June teenth, Women's Equality Day,

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<v Speaker 4>National Hispanic Heritage Month, National Disability Employment Awareness Month, and

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<v Speaker 4>National American Indian Heritage Month, with a small asterisk saying

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<v Speaker 4>that the pause on observing these will not affect the

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<v Speaker 4>federal holidays, which would be MLK and Juneteenth, although who knows,

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<v Speaker 4>they might try to even remove some of those as

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<v Speaker 4>being federal holidays.

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<v Speaker 5>I did wonder that like at some point, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>like you're gonna lose people when you take away their

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<v Speaker 5>days off work.

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<v Speaker 4>I get, like that's right, right, So, like I think

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<v Speaker 4>they might leave those like actual federal holidays in but

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<v Speaker 4>you're not allowed to observe any of these, any of

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<v Speaker 4>these other awareness months or or you know, Pride Month,

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Black History months, like you're not allowed to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>at all in these federal agencies now, at least for

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 4>the Defense Intelligence Agency. Support for most of Trump's executive

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<v Speaker 4>orders does fluctuate. According to a poll from Reuters, the

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<v Speaker 4>support for closing all DEI offices is actually pretty split.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty one percent oppose the closing of these offices. According

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<v Speaker 4>to their poll, Forty four percent are in fame and

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<v Speaker 4>it's very segmented. Renaming the Gulf of Mexico to be

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<v Speaker 4>the Gulf of America pretty disliked, with seventy percent being

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<v Speaker 4>in opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, the one thing people hate most is changing names.

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<v Speaker 4>Having the names been change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nobody likes that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did Denali as well. Right, Yeah, I guess

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that was changed more recently. But the Gulf of Mexico

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>has been the Gulf of Mexico for longer than it's

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<v Speaker 2>America has existed as a country the United States, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Denali has been Denali for longer than America

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<v Speaker 5>has existed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just right, right, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a period where we called it McKinley. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's ever called it the Gulf of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not saying the Denali thing's right. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's all a much harder.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, yeah, yeah, you're not going to get much

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<v Speaker 3>buying on that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Pardening J six protesters, new tariffs or taxes on Canadian goods,

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<v Speaker 4>and ending birthright citizenship are all around sixty to thirty

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 4>sixty opposed thirty percent in favor. Trump. During his first

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 4>we did see a record high approval rating that is

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.479
<v Speaker 4>slowly I think gone down, but I don't know, it's

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 4>hard to gauge the level of like general enthusiasm for

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 4>his actions right now. And there's I think part of

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 4>like the general strategy that we're seeing is there's just

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 4>so much happening every single day that you can't even

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 4>keep track of it all, let alone like internalize it.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Like he's he is trying to sign as many of

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 4>these orders every day so that both the courts, all

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 4>of these like NGOs advocacy groups are always working, and

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 4>we're never sure what is real, right, We're never sure

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 4>what's going to stick around all of these memos about

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 4>funding and grants. It's just so exhausting. And that's like

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<v Speaker 4>part of the design is that this just feels like

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 4>a constant stream of nonsense that we maybe have to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with, maybe we won't. One of the more odd

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<v Speaker 4>things is Trump openly embracing manifest destiny language, which I

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 4>guess isn't actually odd, that's actually makes sense. It's just

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 4>one of those things that it feels very rubicon esque.

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 4>But he does have this new distinct focus on territorial expansion.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>During his inaugural address, he praised quote unquote our American

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>ancestors for having quote won the wild West. Now, apparently

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 4>the call about Greenland to Denmark did not go very well.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Denmark did not realize how serious Trump was and was

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 4>apparently quite angry during that phone call, and you know,

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 4>seemingly upset that Denmark is not going to easily hand

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<v Speaker 4>over Greenland. He seems to be pivoting more towards retaking Panama. Yeah,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 4>which is which is something that he also mentioned in

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 4>his inaugural address.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you Panamanians not stoked.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been receiving communications from Panama where it was his

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<v Speaker 5>step down, but they are burning American flags.

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<v Speaker 4>The quote from the inaugural address is quote the United

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<v Speaker 4>States will once again consider itself a growing nation when

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<v Speaker 4>that increases our wealth and carries our flag into new

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 4>beautiful horizons, and we will pursue our manifest destiny into

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<v Speaker 4>the stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know, what, what do you have to do.

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 3>That's not a good thing.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I think that's bad, Like obviously, that's you know, not great,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 4>not ideal. You know, invading Panama not ideal. Going to

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<v Speaker 4>war with Greenland slightly more funny because it's cold. I

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 4>think specifically he's focused on, like why that he believes

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 4>the US has a vested interest in Greenland? Isn't just

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>picking out a spot on the map. I think this

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 4>also could be like related to trying to prepare for

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<v Speaker 4>climate change. Having territory in the Arctic is going to

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<v Speaker 4>become an increasingly valuable commodity to have. And and I

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<v Speaker 4>think there is a part of this that could be

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.959
<v Speaker 4>legitimately on on that side, because I mean, I don't know,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 4>maybe Trump should just get really into Alaska.

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, he did deregulate drilling in Alaska, drill baby drill.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 5>I will be up there later this year talking to

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<v Speaker 5>people in Alaska about drill baby drill.

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<v Speaker 3>Very excited for.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but I don't know. I think it's also generally

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 4>not super useful to make huge generalizing statements about what

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 4>this type of stuff Trump is doing right now and

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 4>how it will reflect on his entire presidency. People have

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 4>been been doing this kind of about Trump's flip flopping

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 4>opinions on TikTok, you know, being very into like, you know,

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 4>saving TikTok and then then calling it worthless, but then

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 4>going back to actually making sure that Microsoft buys it

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 4>or something. And you know, people are very easy or

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>quick to like jump onto these sorts of things. Trump's

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 4>flip flopping tendencies maybe not sinking every single easy bucket

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 4>and acting like these would be emblematic of his entire presidency,

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 4>and like that's not the case. That that that does

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<v Speaker 4>not actually mean that Trump just says things even though

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna call TikTok worthless, does not mean that he's

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 4>going to not do that easy lay up. We're all

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 4>aware of how much he just says what is on

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 4>his mind, yep. And I think these sorts of things

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 4>do not necessarily mean that he's going to like plummet

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 4>to being the most unpopular president ever because he, you know,

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 4>refuses to use the right messaging around TikTok or something.

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 4>The other economic situations he might walk us into would

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 4>be you know, much much more affecting to his general popularity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he is doing again. I talked about this

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Why fascists succeed is that they try, like

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>they're constantly reaching for stuff, and oftentimes like they overreach,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 2>but nobody pushes back so they get the thing, right.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what he's doing here. Do I think that he's

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<v Speaker 2>willing at this point to commit to a full scale

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.239
<v Speaker 2>military invasion and armed occupation of Panama, a thing that

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>could be a real problem for his presidency?

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like US troops dying in meaningful numbers in attacks

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>in a country that we had no fucking beef with before.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>That could be a real fucking problem for a guy

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>who ran on the things that he ran on. But

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe he gets a bunch of concessions for nothing. It's

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>the same thing with Greenland. You make the push, you

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>try to scare Denmark, you try to scare Greenland, and

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>you see if they'll accept something, and then you you

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>walk away, maybe with a coup, and you do it

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking widely enough you might get something.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, that's that's it.

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 4>He's he's testing his limits because that's what they do.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, look at Columbia, right, he immediately went

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<v Speaker 5>to like eleven on the retaliation scale and effectively received concessions.

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 4>So I think, you know, similar to how you know

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 4>it was annoying in the first like resistlib era, to

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 4>take every single crazy statement Trump says seriously, or like,

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, do this performative outrage over every single thing

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 4>he does. I think it's also useless to do fast

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 4>mimetic reactions that form generalizing statements about you know, how

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 4>how something that Trump is doing is emblematic for the

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 4>rest of his term and now he's like doomed to failure.

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I think those statements are actually pretty useless and at

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 4>the very least are not helpful. Right now, let's close

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 4>by talking about Guantanamo. I guess Robert and James, I'll

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 4>have I'll have you taken.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Trump has signed an executive order saying that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to create a facility capable of storing thirty thousand

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>migrants in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. First, we should probably just

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about how realistic this is. If you ever looked

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>at a topographical map of Guantanamo Bay, it's quite a large,

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Like the US concession in Cuba, is a sizable degree

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>of land. But it's not easy land to build things on,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>right like it is that it's rugged terrain, you would say,

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 2>So making a camp like this is almost certainly going

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to be extremely expensive, and at least under kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the way things currently work, it will probably take a

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<v Speaker 2>good amount of time to get set up.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Like.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>This is not a quick thing. This is not an

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>overnight thing. And one thing I want to remind people

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>of is that they have already have expanded a number

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<v Speaker 2>of camps and facilities in the US to deal with

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>all the migrants they are taking in. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>not the start. If you want to call this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fair to call this a plan to

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<v Speaker 2>start a concentration camp system, that system began early, and

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in fact it started before Trump took office. A decent

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>junk of it was anticipating him coming into office, But.

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 5>This is not the first camp, right, Yeah, and like

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 5>Biden did significant legwork for detension that is cool and unusual, Yes,

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 5>with his legal defense and his establishment of outdoor detention

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 5>for migrants since the end of Title forty two in

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<v Speaker 5>May of twenty three. And I think, like we have

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<v Speaker 5>to acknowledge that, I know people are very much into

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 5>the like, don't criticize the Dems right now, Like if

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 5>they don't change, if taking a fat l in what

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 5>should have been one of the easiest elections of the

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 5>century doesn't change them, then nothing will. And like we

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 5>have to acknowledge that we are going to concentration camps quicker.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean there were foreign outlets that called the outdoor

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<v Speaker 5>detention sites in Hakumba concentration camps, right because they'd sure

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 5>as hell look like one.

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>And they are. This is a big personal frustration to me.

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing a ton of people going online and comparing

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<v Speaker 2>this to the Nazi concent camp hereafter referred to as

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the KZ system.

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>There's one post I came across on Twitter where a

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>person whom I'm not going to name, just to not

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 2>cause a bunch of bullshit for them. Time from taking

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>office to opening a massed attention camp. Mussolini eight years,

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 2>ll Gala and others, Libya Hitler fifty one days. Docau

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Germany Trump nine days. That's fucking horseshit. Yes, Docou took

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 2>longer to establish. Docou was not the first concentration camp.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>The concentration camp system in Germany under the Nazis started

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the Nazis took power with a series

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<v Speaker 2>of what were called wild concentration camps, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>involved a huge number of people, largely political enemies of

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<v Speaker 2>the regime, members of the opposition party, being taken into custody, beaten, tortured,

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<v Speaker 2>and stored in a series of airsats facilities. Two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people were taken into custody under the wild concentration

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<v Speaker 2>camp system in nineteen thirty three, the first year that

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<v Speaker 2>Germans were in power. These are not comparable systems. That

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<v Speaker 2>does not mean that I don't believe what Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>doing is a concentration camp. It is a concentration camp

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<v Speaker 2>made in the model of the American system. This is

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<v Speaker 2>part of the American history of concentration camps, which goes

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<v Speaker 2>back something like two hundred years right to the I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we were one of the first countries.

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<v Speaker 3>To employ concentration camps.

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<v Speaker 2>The concentration camp as a concept began with what we're

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<v Speaker 2>called reconcentrados in Cuba at the behest of a Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>general fighting an insurgency. There were US officers embedded there.

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<v Speaker 2>They came back and those tactics were adapted for our

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<v Speaker 2>wars with Native American tribes on the frontiers and the planes.

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<v Speaker 2>General Sherman was one of the very first Americans to

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<v Speaker 2>carry out concentration camps. And what we are seeing here

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<v Speaker 2>is part of America's tradition with concentration camps. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not part of the German tradition with concentration camps. And

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be mistaken about like how this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to proceed and what the dangers are, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do not think the dangers at this point are that

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<v Speaker 2>we build a death factory capable of incinerating a million

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<v Speaker 2>people in less than a year. That's not the threat.

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<v Speaker 2>The threat is huge numbers of people are taken into

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<v Speaker 2>custody and stored in places that are not safe, that

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<v Speaker 2>do not have good hygiene, that do not have good

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<v Speaker 2>food standards, and a significant number of those people will

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<v Speaker 2>die or suffer permanent physical injury, but it won't look

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<v Speaker 2>like Auschwitz. And if that's what people are expecting, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, well, maybe this isn't that band, Maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a concentration camp after all. So it's important to

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<v Speaker 2>get things right, both for that reason and because it's

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<v Speaker 2>also disrespectful to the people who died during the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Holocaust to be like, yeah, Trump's a lot worse than

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler right now, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, stop that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like we have you can trace online from like

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<v Speaker 5>Bosquier Rodondo, right, but they sent a Navajo people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Boss Gredondo is a great thing to bring.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, And you can trace a direct line from

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<v Speaker 5>that to the outdoor detention comps we started twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 5>where people were forced to remain in one place without food, water,

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<v Speaker 5>or shelter, and people died as a result of that

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<v Speaker 5>last year two years ago, and like that from there

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<v Speaker 5>to Guantanamo Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a massive leap.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, just being like we don't have Auschwitz, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just asinine. Like if you can't acknowledge that America has

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<v Speaker 5>a long history of doing this, and you know, really

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<v Speaker 5>you need to examine your own preconceptions before like speaking

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<v Speaker 5>for others.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, all right, is that this episode for this week? Everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the episode. I think we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>We reported the news.

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