WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Turtle of Enormous Girth 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:10.719 I Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.200 Mind listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.480 Joe McCormick, and it's Monday, the day of the week. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.239 We read back some messages that you have sent into 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.880 the show, Rob do you want to get us started today? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.720 With this message from Daniel. This one actually in a 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.159 in a rare cameo comes from the Facebook module and 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.640 it's in response to some previous listener mail about the 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:40.480 vegetable lamb of tartary. Yeah. Yeah, the Stuff to Blow 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.839 your Mind discussion module. You can look that up on 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.680 Facebook and request to join if you want. Um And 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.360 I'm going to see about getting that added to the 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.080 the I Heart Listening for our website. I was just 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.040 noticing that that some other podcasts in our network have 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.880 additional links on there. It's like, hey, we can throw 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.600 some stuff on those links. Why not? Uh? But anyway, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.440 Daniel writes, um r E colin the listener maile mentioning 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:08.840 eventually grown meat cultured from human celebrity tissue cage sneaks. Yes, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.920 Daniel rights. It comes up in anti viral from not 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.440 the main plot hook more as background world building, but 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.160 exactly what he suggested fans by steaks grown from their 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.319 idol sell samples to be close to them. Daniel continues 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.399 had never heard of the film before, just happened to 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.039 spot it on my local public libraries DVD shelves last 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.039 week and noticed it was written and directed by Brandon 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.000 Cronenberg and wondered how much like his dad's movies his 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.039 would be? Quite was the answer? Nice, I had no 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.240 idea this existed. I also don't think I knew that 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.320 David Cronenberg had a son who was also a filmmaker. Yeah, 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.080 I knew that this existed, but I just I hadn't 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:57.280 watched it. Um not that I wasn't interested, but but 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.480 it is good to hear that the chron in Burghs 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.600 don't fall too far from the Cronenberg tree. It's a 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:09.560 weird tree. Speaking of the the film collections at public libraries, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.440 I have a very weird member. There was a period 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.400 where I was I had figured out whoa I can 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.360 save money Instead of like looking for scratch DVDs at 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.360 the local used book and CD store, I can save 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.760 money by renting DVDs from the library for free, but 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.120 their selection was so odd. I remember there being a 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.520 shelf that the main items that caught my attention on 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.920 it were disks for Inland Empire, The Treasure of the 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.839 Sierra Madre, and Flubber. You know, I don't remember ever 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.720 renting a movie from the library public library, but I 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.799 remember they had them, and I do have family members 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.040 to this day who I think get most of their 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.000 movies from the public library, which, yeah, I mean, go 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.919 for it. Why not? Libraries are great. Now. On the 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.760 the issue of Brandon Cronenberg, however, I can't help but 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.120 think that the David Cronenberg was being a little bit 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.320 of a hypocrite just naming his son a normal, boring 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.640 name like Brandon, when he comes up with such remarkably creative, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.360 weird names for characters in his movies. Yes, why was 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.120 his Why was his child not named like uh, fleshly 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:26.760 rector Cronenberg or something? Yeah? Why not? Alright? This next 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.720 message comes from Cindy, also about vegetable name of tartary, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.799 adding to the long chain of responses we've got about 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.560 people eating raw potatoes. Cindy says, my first time writing 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.920 in I often have the urge to write in while 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.520 listening to an episode, but I usually procrastinate until I forget. Luckily, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.320 the raw potato topic has come up in two listener 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.160 males in a row, so I had no excuses this time. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.680 One of my favorite dishes at Angelo Pietro, a Japanese 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:58.440 style Italian restaurant in Honolulu, Hawaii, is their raw potato salad, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.800 and she and lads a link to a photo which 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.840 looks to me. I've never had a raw potato salad, 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.080 but just in a low rez photo, it looks kind 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.240 of like a shredded dike on salad, you know, just 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.400 like strips of white vegetable matter, apparently dressed and covered 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.640 in some herbs. Cindy goes on the link, describes the 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.760 dish and provides a recipe directly from the restaurant. The 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.120 shredded potato salad is definitely served raw. It is crisp 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.839 and delicious and readily takes on the flavor of the dressing. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.640 I've had it many times during my visits and when 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.000 I lived there, and I don't recall any gastro intestinal 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.000 upset after consuming it. So maybe Cindy's here to put 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:40.120 fears to rest about too many worries about upset stomach 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.880 after eating raw potato, assuming it's not greening and full 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.640 of solanine. Cindy goes on. Unfortunately, the article does not 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.520 provide the origins of the dish. My googling did not 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.919 turn up any information on whether it's a specialty of 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.719 either Japanese or Italian food culture. The only thing similar 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.440 that I can think of is Sichuanese. Um. I'm gonna 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.080 try to say this chong ban too. So see a 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.760 spiced shredded potato salad where the potatoes are briefly blanched 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.280 or stir fried to lightly cook them and keep them 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.840 crispy and crunchy before being dressed. It's usually served cold. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.640 Since this is not an American food culture thing crisp 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.240 raw potatoes as a vegetable, I thought a different perspective 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.400 was interesting. Anyway, keep up the wonderful work. I truly 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.279 enjoy all of the episodes, be they science or myth heavy. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:32.600 They keep my brain working and continuously learning. Thank you, Cindy. Oh, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.760 I had to look up this restaurant. I don't I'm 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.760 not planning to be back in Honolulu anytime soon, but 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.960 it looks great. It looks like a place I'd love 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.359 to check out. Sichuan ease food is one of my 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.880 favorite kinds of food, but I've never I've read about 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.880 this uh shredded potato salad before, but I've never tried it, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.680 and I would very much like to. Maybe I'll have 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.560 to figure out how to make this at home. I 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.120 have been working on my ability to make Sichuan cuisine 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.320 at home because I found an online market that's sells 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.440 a lot of good ingredients you need, like the Sichuan 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.640 peppercorns and the UH and the zatsi and stuff like that. Yeah, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:14.240 you were telling me about this, Yeah, all right. Our 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.280 next bit of listener mail is in response to a 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:23.159 Monster Fact episode about World Turtles. Uh. Specifically, we we 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.919 lead in that episode with it being about a Pokemon 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.440 that is a turtle with like a forest on its back, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.200 but ultimately is it Squirtle? Is it the one Pokemon 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.320 I know? No, No, it's it's tort Tara. It's not Squirtle, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.159 though the Squirtle is great too. This one is like 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.080 an enormous turtle with generally depicted as having like a 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.400 tree growing out of its um at the top of 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.920 its shell, like a forest on its shell. Nice. Yeah, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.880 and there they are featured in the the entertaining motion 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.200 picture Pokemon Detective Pikachu. When you get around to seeing 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.520 that one, Joe, does that one have the baby Pikachu 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:04.360 in it? Um? I don't remember seeing the baby Pikachu 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.680 Pechu in that movie, though my son says that he 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.120 was there, or we saw one in a cut scene 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.440 or something. I don't know. He does not factor heavily 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.320 into the plot. Anyway, this listener was writing in in 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.120 regard to some of the the more pop culture references 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.720 to this idea of a world turtle, a turtle that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.320 is upon which the world is placed, or you know 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.800 that they're various versions of this, and anyway, Mike writeson 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.320 And says, when you were talking about examples of mythological 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.480 turtles with the world on their back, I immediately thought 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.560 of Maturin from Stephen King's books. In it, Maturin is 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.240 the is the force of good that opposes Pennyworth, Pennyworth, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.440 penny Wise, penny Wise. This confusing with Alfred from Batman. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:54.280 I well, uh, yeah, I'm sure Mike means the penny Wise. Uh. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.200 And in the Dark Tower series, Maturin exists as a 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.840 mythological character for the people of Midward World. The main 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.080 character in the Dark Tower series tells the others about 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.880 a poem from his childhood quote see the turtle of 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.000 enormous girth on his shell, he holds the earth. His 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.880 thought is slow but always kind. He holds us all 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.040 within his mind on his back. All vows are made. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.720 He sees the truth but mayn't aid. He loves the land, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.560 and loves the sea, and even loves a child like me. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:31.280 Thanks for the show. It's always entertaining and educational. Well, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.480 you know, um, this is a great point. I forgot 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.200 all about, um the world Turtle from Stephen King's Dark Tower. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.320 And also Yet. Yeah, it does show up, and it's 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.480 been a very long time since I read that. But 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.920 there's all that additional stuff that I don't think made 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.960 it into the movies, about the the ritual of Chud 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.480 and the World Turtle and so forth. I think that's 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.040 one of those books that must be paired down, even 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.880 if made into multiple movies or a four hour mini series. Yeah. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.560 I did really enjoy the first of the two recent 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.880 I in general both film adaptations of Yet. I liked 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.959 the first part and wasn't crazy about the second part. Yep, yep, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.600 I'm pretty much right there. You know who directed the 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.200 TV mini series of it, the original one with Tim Curry. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.160 Oh yeah, they tie into something we were watching us, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.280 Tommy Lee Wallace, director of Halloween three season. That's right, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.480 that's right. Well, there's some great stuff in that. In 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.680 that that old the first part of the old mini 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:41.680 series version of it that came out in Okay, Rob, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.679 you ready for this one from Lurch? Yes, let's hear 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.280 from Lurch. Okay, this is an about an old episode 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.600 on tidally locked planets. Lurch says, good morning, gentlemen. I 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.439 am interrupting my driving out here in the back of 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.360 Beyond to offer some thoughts on a very old episode. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.960 I apologize for not being very pacific. I listened to 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.640 it months ago and just don't remember the title, but 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.600 it's been percolating in the dark recesses of my mind 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.120 ever since. At the end of the episode, you asked 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.760 for a listener input on what we thought the weather 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.679 might be like on a relatively earthlike planet if said 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.480 planet was tidally locked to the local star, and a 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.760 quick reference at tidal locking means that the planet's rotation 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.480 has become synchronous with its orbit around something, either around 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.319 the planet or around a star, so the same side 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.760 of the planet always faces into the into the thing 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.760 that it's orbiting. Yeah. So like if it was an 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.680 earthlike world, it would mean that one side of the 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.439 Earth it's locked in perpetual daylight and the other side 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.360 of perpetual darkness. Yeah. Earth's moon is tidally locked with 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.560 the Earth, so the same side of the Moon is 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.840 always facing the Earth. You never see the far side 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.640 of the Moon unless from like a spacecraft photo. Right. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.680 Lurch goes on to say, if said planet was tidally 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.640 locked to the local star, I don't think it would 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.040 be earth like for very long geologically speaking. Once it 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.600 stopped rotating in relatively short order, there would be a 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.360 continuous wind storm racing it hundreds of miles per hour 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.319 or faster from the dark side to the light side 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.120 than rising as the air warms near the center of 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.559 the sunlit face, before racing back to the night side, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.400 where it cools and sinks to ground level and flows 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.920 sunward again. The air flow cross section would look rather 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.040 like a stretched out rubber band, but it's a mistake 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.320 to think it would be that simple. The surface of 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.319 a planet is not really homogeneous. Some places will warm 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.440 more and faster than others. This would twist the wind flow. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.920 Eventually there would be a ginormous cyclonic storm centered at 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.160 the most sunward point in the hemisphere, where all the 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.559 shrieking winds will eventually run out of room and fountain 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.679 up towards space, driven by the mass of air coming 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.520 up behind. As the air races to the sunlit side, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.640 it will soon scour away anything in its path. Even 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.760 mountains will be erased. In a few million years, When 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.160 the mass of the air piles up, it will slow 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.600 and drop most of the dust it's been carrying. As 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.920 the mountains elsewhere erode, a new single mountain, comprised of 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.640 their dust and bones will grow and take shape at 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.640 the center of the sunward vortex. Eventually it will make 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.679 Olympus Mons, the biggest mountain on Mars, look like an 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.000 ant hill. The dark side is not without it's called 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.800 a tourists though. Just as on the day side, uneven 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.640 ground temperatures will set up a hemisphere spanning vortex as 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.280 the air being pushed from the hot side cools and 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.480 sinks instead of a mountain of dust and debris. Though 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.319 the water carried by the air will condense and freeze, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.400 leading to another mountain of ice not stone. It seems 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.559 to me this mountain will probably be smaller than the 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.960 daylight one. I think it likely that much of the 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.559 water will continue to cycle from the cold side to 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.160 hot then back again somewhere near the terminator, and that 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.439 would be the border between the lit side. In the 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.760 dark side of the planet, liquid water runoff from the 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.120 ice sheet will flow sunward, carrying sediment and dust that 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.600 got blown to the cold zone. Eventually, the streams and 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.320 rivers will vanish as the wind whips the surface of 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.240 the water to a froth and carries the spray away 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.200 on another cycle. At either weather pole. The lightning display 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.199 would be phenomenal given the amount of static electricity that 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.840 would be generated by the winds. Life could even survive 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.920 on such a planet, though I'm of the opinion it 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.600 would buy necessity be small, too much cross section, and 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.120 the winds would tear it apart. Whether it be a 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.520 dirt dweller or airborne bacteria and the like. Yeah, subsurface 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.880 marine life, yes, even something like coral capable of building small, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.440 low lying shelters might work. Tarte grades would probably call 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.360 it an amusement park with a heck of an e 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.040 ticket ride, but I doubt anything bigger than a quarter 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.240 could cut it. Maybe at the relative center of the vortices, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.520 and I'm pretty sure the atmosphere wouldn't freeze out, not 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.160 so long as the star provides enough heat to drive 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.560 the weather engine of such things, does the occasional truck 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.600 driver ponder on the long highways. Thank you for taking 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.640 the time to read this. Thanks for easing my day's lurch. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.480 Oh thanks lurch. This is a great email, um, and 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.480 it lines up somewhat with with with hypothetical scenarios I've 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.520 read in the past. It's been a while, so I 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.640 forget some of the details, but yeah, this seems to 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.040 line up mostly with the kinds of things I've read 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.040 people describing about what a planet like that might be like. Though, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.280 I wonder how far away a planet can be from 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.960 a star and and be tidally locked to that star. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.960 I would think that tidle locking, I think tends to 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.720 happen when things are closer to the thing they're orbiting, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.760 And of course, as a rocky world gets closer to 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.200 it's uh, it's host star, there's there's a greater and 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.520 greater chance that this atmosphere is just blown away into space. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.160 this isn't. This is a much older episode. I don't 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.040 remember how this episode is. It's old enough that I 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.720 have on occasion recently thought I wonder if that's a 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.560 topic that we should revisit on the show. But after 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.760 an email this good, maybe we don't have to. So Yeah, bravo, lurch. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.560 Richly imagined and as far as I can tell, mostly 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.440 pretty physically plausible. If anybody in the geophysical sciences wants 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.160 to chime in and agree, disagree, or expand on this scenario, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.359 please write in as well. Anyway, it's it's a fascinating 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.680 topic and one that's been explored in numerous uh sci 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.600 fi treatments and uh and speaking of science fiction, let's 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:38.560 get into a little weird house cinema. Oh yeah, man, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.120 we got some messages from people who have more diver 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.880 knowledge than I would have imagined existed. Yeah. Yeah, I 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.280 was pleasantly surprised with the amount of giver feedback we 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.960 we heard. You know, I wasn't sure if this one 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.680 was one where I just didn't know what kind of 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.800 a following the Giver had. But this one comes to 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.560 us from Matthias. Matthias says, Hey, Robert and j I 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.040 normally don't listen to the Weird House Cinema episodes because 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.160 I'm not much of a movie buff, but I happened 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.000 to be a fan of Geiver. When I saw that 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.960 episode pop up in my feed, I listened to it immediately. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.280 My history with Geiver goes back to when I was 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.240 a child in the mid nineties. I rented the VHS 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.760 anime tapes from the likes of Blockbuster and Rogers Video 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.040 or no Rogers Video. Maybe it's a regional thing. Wait, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.280 is that a compound? Is it Blockbuster and Rogers Video? No? 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.240 Unless that is a regional thing at any rate, is is? 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.920 Uh uh? And I was hooked, although I'm not sure 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.520 why my parents allowed me to watch them with all 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.440 the violence and swearing. When I was older, I discovered 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.040 the live action Guiver movie, the one you guys watched. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.520 And it wasn't until my late teens, when I showed 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.280 the movie to my friends that I discovered Mark Hamill 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.360 is in fact not the Giver. As a kid, I 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.680 knew Mark Hamill was Luke Skywalker, but I didn't understand 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.360 that he looked that way in the seventies and this 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.640 movie was from the nineties. I then associated the person 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.800 that look the closest to Luke Skywalker as Mark Hamill. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.119 It's something my friends and I still laugh about to 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.080 this day. So he thought that the young guy in 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.600 the movie, what's the character, Sean or whatever, the blonde 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.800 boy that was Mark Hamill, when really Mark Hamill is 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:19.080 this mustache man. That's interesting because we we speculated and 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.439 has been speculated by others as well, of course, that 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.720 this is what the filmmakers intended. They're like, well, Mark's 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.560 too old to play this character. Can we get somebody 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.360 who kind of looks like Mark Hamill to play this part? Uh? 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.760 The kids won't know the difference, and lo and behold, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.080 Uh it seems to be the case. Right, So we 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.040 have his name on the box and that'll get you 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.480 in there, and then you just assume it's this guy. Yeah. Now, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:47.080 Matthias shares a lot of excellent information about the Guy 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:51.320 over franchise, including various clips, and I will share you Matthias. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.879 I looked at these. Uh, there's one when we pointed 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.399 out that there's a great fight scene in one of 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.719 the animes, and I did check that out. I'm always 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.879 game for some sort of a great weird alien versus 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.000 dude in alien costumes suit. But I'm not going to 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.360 go through all of these tidbits just because I don't 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.040 know how. I don't know how deep the thirst is 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.480 for most listeners when it comes to to the Gueiver. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.480 But here's here's one thing that Mathiah shares about the sequel, 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.280 Geiver Dark Hero quote. The live action sequel Geiver Dark 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.880 Hero took itself a lot more seriously than it's prequel, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.960 but it is entertaining enough if you wanted to kill time. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.080 There's a lot more superhuman martial arts that goes on. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.399 While Sean now David Hayter, well known as the voice 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.960 of Solid Snake, searches for information on Chronos, the Geiver 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.520 and the aliens that created the Geiver unit, I don't 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.560 think it's Memi enough to warrant a weird House Cinema episode. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.159 What do you mean by Mimi? At any rate? Mathiah 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.919 shares some more tidbits from the Geiver universe, and I 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.720 enjoyed learning more about it. But also ends with I 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.040 don't want to bomb you guys with too much Geiver lore, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.600 so I'll leave it at that. Thanks for the episode. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:10.000 It was fun, Matthias and the Guiver males. Do not 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.639 stop because next we've got one from Devon. Devon says, Hello, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.119 Rob and Joe. I've been a fond listener of your 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.680 podcast for several years now, but have not been moved 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.840 to right until now. With two Weird House Cinema episodes 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.160 touching on pieces of my teenage life and stray mentions 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.240 of the movie version of my favorite book, I decided 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.359 the time is now. I was a large anime geek 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.560 in the nineties, as was the style at the time, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.439 and was a fan of both the Za Ram's anime 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:42.359 counterpart za Ram was another movie we did about an 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.520 alien and a bounty hunter uh and the Giver anime. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.080 To hear you both talk about these series brought me 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.760 into a rabbit hole of nostalgia. Well, I don't have 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.600 much to add to the Za Ram discussion the Guiver discussion. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.879 I can shed some light on Geivers anime only lasted 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.719 twelve episodes, covering the Chronos Japan arc from the manga 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.080 This is the same plot that the first movie roughly covers. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.440 While condensing and americanizing the plot, some of the broader 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.600 strokes are intact with a PG. Thirteen schlock coating to 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.439 cover the disturbing gore of the anime series. Geiver was 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.440 an attempt at a dark tokusatsu series. As at the time, 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.840 traditional tokusatsu was on a bit of a decline in 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.479 Japan and late eighties and early nineties, anime and manga 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.560 were being pulled in a dark, violent and sexual direction. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.560 As such, combining the style of other popular dark body 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.320 horror anime, they did their own spin on the tokusatsu hero. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.080 This is why the original Geiver had the coloration of 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.040 Ultraman Hey, Ultraman uh from what was the movie we 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.400 did uh Hanuman and the Seven Ultraman Devon goes on 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.640 and many features reminiscent of Kaman Rider, a still very 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.240 popular tokusatsu series. These are the ones that are much 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:02.640 more directly similar or to the Power Rangers. Devon writes, 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.600 what caught me most about this film was that it 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.680 tried to keep most of the creature design and translated 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.119 to rubber suit monsters, you can actually draw parallels between 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.639 some of the monsters in the manga and those in 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.760 the American movie. This plus a number of details and 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.000 dedication to the gross cronin Bergeean aspects that were a 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.960 staple of the original. In fact, I remember that the 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.800 second movie actually tries to rhet con in a lot 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.119 of information and characters left out of the first movie, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.200 such as the second geiver unit. Oh boy, uh that 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.520 is damaged and working for Chronos, the Chronos Corporation. Something 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.160 tells me that screaming Mad George was actually a fan 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.040 of the original source material. Uh. Now there's more of 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.679 this email that I think we don't have time to 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:50.040 get into today, where Devon goes into great detail about 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.960 the movie of the Last Unicorn, which we may come 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.960 to someday. Um, But but I think we'll have to 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.800 leave it there for now. Though, I have to share 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.760 Devon's transition, which is saying, now that we have eaten 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.360 the meat we slapped together, let's take a slightly more 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:09.000 wholesome turn. Very very well done, Yes, and I do 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.880 appreciate that the additional tidbits about the Last Unicorn. It's 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.199 been been a while since I read that, And actually, 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.080 when I think back. I think I only read the 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:18.960 first half to my son and then we had to 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.879 return the book to the library. But the book of 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.160 the book was pretty pretty good as well. I definitely 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:28.679 read up through uh the end of the cycle with 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.400 with Mommy Fortuna, who is wonderfully voiced in that by 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:38.160 Angela Lansbury. Um, great, great, which voice, And really that's 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:39.600