Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim
Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Minky. Listener discretion is advised. Years ago,
Speaker 1: I found myself investigating what was once a Civil War
Speaker 1: battlefield in the middle of the night, and it was
Speaker 1: freezing to be clear. Outdoor investigations of wide open spaces
Speaker 1: are difficult to do, especially at night. If you're using
Speaker 1: cameras with infrared light. There's nothing for the light to
Speaker 1: bounce off of, so your cameras just see inky blackness
Speaker 1: all around. Also, sounds, Sounds are hard to pinpoint. Sure,
Speaker 1: you may hear voices in the distance, but with no
Speaker 1: way to determine where it's coming from, how do you
Speaker 1: know they're not you know, living people talking. So I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting much, but we had to give it the
Speaker 1: old college try. But I was definitely jealous of my
Speaker 1: teammates who were investigating inside the cozy inn that was
Speaker 1: also located on the property. But my shivers and frustration
Speaker 1: were about to be rewarded in my world anyway, because
Speaker 1: as I swooped my flashlight behind me after hearing a
Speaker 1: small noise, I was met with a face, just a face,
Speaker 1: the face of someone who was clearly a Civil War
Speaker 1: era soldier. He had his cap on, his scruffy beard
Speaker 1: was a tangle against his face, and his brown eyes
Speaker 1: were staring straight at me. Did I mention it was
Speaker 1: just a face as in nobody, just a floating face
Speaker 1: in the darkness that disappeared right before my eyes. And that,
Speaker 1: my friends, was just one of the many experiences I've
Speaker 1: had over the years in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Let's visit one
Speaker 1: of my favorite haunts in the area, the cash Town Inn.
Speaker 1: I'm Amy Bruney, and welcome to Haunted Road. If you
Speaker 1: were to visit the cash Town Inn today, you might
Speaker 1: be surprised by the decor. It doesn't look like a
Speaker 1: stereotypical haunted hotel. The cheerful red exterior looks a lot
Speaker 1: like it did when the two story inn was first
Speaker 1: constructed in the late eighteenth century. A bright white sign
Speaker 1: displays the hotel's name in blue lettering. The front porch
Speaker 1: is lined with leafy bushes and trees and rocking chairs
Speaker 1: welcome weary travelers. In the summer's American flags in red,
Speaker 1: white and blue bunting hang from the balustrades. In the autumn,
Speaker 1: pumpkins and gourds line the walkway, giving it a cozy feel.
Speaker 1: The interior is equally comfortable. The lobby boasts blue and
Speaker 1: white armchairs, and the restaurant's seating area is sandwiched between
Speaker 1: the bar and a brick wall with a fireplace. If
Speaker 1: you drop by for their Sunday morning brunch, you can
Speaker 1: order coffee muffins and French toasts sprinkled with powdered sugar.
Speaker 1: You might feel like you've disc covered a heartwarming historical gem,
Speaker 1: but if you were to stay in the inn overnight,
Speaker 1: the experience could become unsettling. There's an uneasiness here with
Speaker 1: ties to the boarding house's history. It was first built
Speaker 1: in seventeen ninety seven. At the time it was a
Speaker 1: modest wooden structure where stagecoach drivers could stop to take
Speaker 1: a break and get something to eat. There were no
Speaker 1: overnight accommodations. Within a decade or two, proprietor Peter Mark
Speaker 1: rebuilt the stop as a sturdier brick building, and in
Speaker 1: eighteen fifteen he secured a tavern license so he could
Speaker 1: run it as a hotel. It had four rooms in
Speaker 1: a cellar with two ovens, so they'd always have freshly
Speaker 1: baked bread. When the lodge first opened its doors, it
Speaker 1: didn't have a name. It was just an anonymous inn
Speaker 1: near a rural Pennsylvania crossroads. As reported on George S.
Speaker 1: Scotch's On the Road to Gettysburg, Peter didn't let guests
Speaker 1: pay for their rooms, goods, or cover the local tolls
Speaker 1: on credit, nor was he opened a barterer. His insistence
Speaker 1: on cash alone eventually earned the building the name the
Speaker 1: Cashtown in the Moniker stuck. Just as nobody consciously decided
Speaker 1: to name the Cashtown in the village that sprang up
Speaker 1: around it appeared more or less unintentionally also called Cashtown.
Speaker 1: The community slowly grew to accommodate the through traffic the
Speaker 1: hotel brought in by the eighteen hundreds Cashtown. Both the
Speaker 1: inn and the town had earned reputations as getaway destinations.
Speaker 1: Scotch wrote of the hotel's healthy neighborhood, pure mountain air,
Speaker 1: and daily bath in fine waters from a natural spring
Speaker 1: flowing through the cellar. But it wouldn't remain an idyllic
Speaker 1: vacation spot forever. In the summer of eighteen sixty three,
Speaker 1: the Civil War was tearing the United States apart, Although
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's Cashtown Inn spent most of the conflict far from
Speaker 1: the battlefield, event vitually fighting practically reached its front door.
Speaker 1: The Franklin Township's history web page, written by Craig A. Hartley,
Speaker 1: says Confederate soldiers were marching through town. On June twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty three. At ten o'clock, a m Union fighters
Speaker 1: launched a surprise attack. One of the soldiers, a man
Speaker 1: named Henry Han, fired on a mounted trooper, knocking him
Speaker 1: from his horse. The gunshot may not have killed the soldier,
Speaker 1: but the fall certainly did. After a full day of suffering,
Speaker 1: he died that night. It's been speculated that at the
Speaker 1: time the soldier was the only wartime casualty in Pennsylvania's
Speaker 1: Adams County, but it wouldn't remain that way. Around the
Speaker 1: time of the skirmish, the Confederate army was camping in Cashtown.
Speaker 1: Generals ap Hill, John d Imboden, and Henry Heath slept
Speaker 1: in the inn's rooms, and they occasionally met with Robert E.
Speaker 1: Lee in the on site barroom to discuss strategy. Fatefully,
Speaker 1: the Cashtown Inn stood on a major road there Confederate
Speaker 1: Army used to transport supplies, and they were in dire
Speaker 1: need of new provisions. Many soldiers didn't have sturdy shoes.
Speaker 1: So one day, when Hill, Heath, and Imbuden gathered in
Speaker 1: the bar room, General Hill gave Heath permission to march
Speaker 1: into Gettysburg, just eight miles away. There he could search
Speaker 1: for provisions, including footwear. Famously, on the road, Heath's men
Speaker 1: clashed with Union troops and the Battle of Gettysburg erupted
Speaker 1: on July first, less than a week after the scuffle
Speaker 1: where Henry Han killed the mounted man. Called the bloodiest
Speaker 1: battle of the Civil War, Gettysburg would result in an
Speaker 1: estimated fifty thousand casualties. Now, I don't have the time
Speaker 1: here to talk about the many hauntings that have been
Speaker 1: reported across Gettysburg, which is considered a massive hotspot for
Speaker 1: ghostly activity. In ghost Stories of America's National Parks, author
Speaker 1: Joe Sills calls it one of the most haunted places
Speaker 1: in America. The cashtown in it saw its share of
Speaker 1: action during the three day battle. The Confederate Army continued
Speaker 1: using it as a base and helped themselves to the
Speaker 1: supplies that owners kept there. They reportedly seized chickens, apples, liquor,
Speaker 1: a wagon, a horse, and a cow. According to Mike
Speaker 1: Kendra on Civil War Talk, they also used the facility's
Speaker 1: bread ovens and bathing facilities throughout their stay, and converted
Speaker 1: the basement into a hospital where countless amputations were performed
Speaker 1: While the soldiers ransacked carshtown, the inn's owner and his
Speaker 1: family hid in the attic. They must have breathed a
Speaker 1: sigh of relief when the enlistes finally moved on, or
Speaker 1: at least the living ones did, following the Battle of Gettysburg.
Speaker 1: The Cashtown in cell on hard times. It had a
Speaker 1: stint as a library and allegedly as an illegal distillery
Speaker 1: During Prohibition. The construction of new highways meant the road
Speaker 1: that passed the lodge wasn't the major thoroughfare it had
Speaker 1: once been. This diminished the traffic to the inn, which
Speaker 1: hurt their bottom line. Around the nineteen fifties, the hotel
Speaker 1: was in serious disrepair. Between nineteen eighty seven and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, the Cashtown Inn changed hands a number of times,
Speaker 1: undergoing numerous renovations to restore its two hundred year old features,
Speaker 1: all the while it continued to operate as a hotel,
Speaker 1: and guests reported strange supernatural sightings at Cashtown. When visitors
Speaker 1: took photographs of the inn from the outside, the developed
Speaker 1: photos often showed faces peeking out the windows, as reported
Speaker 1: on the Cashtown in Gettysburg page on the Occult World
Speaker 1: web site. One very famous photo shows the proprietor standing
Speaker 1: outside the building near a second person in what looks
Speaker 1: like a Confederate uniform. This figure is slightly blurry, as
Speaker 1: if the Civil War era subject moved while the picture
Speaker 1: was being taken. The proprietor doesn't seem to notice his companion,
Speaker 1: and the photographer claims there was no second person to
Speaker 1: be seen when he snapped the picture. On other occasions,
Speaker 1: people have encountered light anomalies, or as reported by Stephen Coleman,
Speaker 1: there have been sightings of what he calls glowing areas.
Speaker 1: People walking through the building will encounter cold spots or
Speaker 1: see spirits in Civil War era clothing pacing the halls.
Speaker 1: Numerous guests have heard footsteps in unoccupied spaces, or they'll
Speaker 1: step into an empty room to find the furniture has
Speaker 1: been moved around. Visitors hear horses outside or a voice
Speaker 1: repeating hello. Multiple people have felt someone touching or grabbing them.
Speaker 1: This even happened when they were trying to sleep. Doors
Speaker 1: have a way of walking on their own, television sets
Speaker 1: and lights turned themselves off and on. The Haunted Room's
Speaker 1: website explains that on more than one occasion, visitors have
Speaker 1: stepped into their rooms to find their suitcases fully packed,
Speaker 1: like the spirits are urging them to move along and
Speaker 1: get out. Beyond that, it can be challenging to determine
Speaker 1: what the spirit in the inner trying to say with
Speaker 1: their disturbances, It seems that the time two forty five
Speaker 1: am is important to them. Multiple visitors have reported that
Speaker 1: instances happen at that precise hour. For example, one couple
Speaker 1: booked a room at the Cashtown Inn sometime in the
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. During the night, they woke up to the
Speaker 1: sound of someone pounding on their door, but when they
Speaker 1: got up to answer, no one was there. The brave
Speaker 1: husband and wife ventured into the hallway, only to see
Speaker 1: a shadow pass over the stairs. According to Dave and
Speaker 1: Sharon Oaster's Ghosts of Gettysburg, they also heard a whistle
Speaker 1: coming from above them, like the sound was coming from
Speaker 1: the room they'd just emerged from, except they hadn't seen
Speaker 1: anyone else spook. They both ran back to their room,
Speaker 1: only to find their watches had stopped at the precise
Speaker 1: second they heard the knocking around two forty five am.
Speaker 1: In the Robert E. Lee Swede, a woman in an
Speaker 1: old fashioned white outfit is often spotted. Her identity is unknown,
Speaker 1: but some believe she's the daughter of them man who
Speaker 1: owned the inn during the Battle of Gettysburg. This makes sense.
Speaker 1: While the room in question is a swee today, it
Speaker 1: used to be the attic where the owner's family hid
Speaker 1: throughout the battle. When the attic was converted into a residence,
Speaker 1: many visitors said they heard furniture being moved around in
Speaker 1: it even when it was empty, and Rosemary Ellen Giley's
Speaker 1: Ghost Hunting Pennsylvania says people who step into the suite
Speaker 1: sometimes hear something scratching at the window or heavy breathing.
Speaker 1: A rocking chair in the Robert E. Lee Suite sometimes
Speaker 1: moves on its own, so does the swing on the
Speaker 1: front porch, even on still nights with no wind. Similarly,
Speaker 1: a rocking chair often rocks without being pushed. In the
Speaker 1: ap Hill room, where the eponymous General Hills stayed during
Speaker 1: the battle. People who have booked this room say they
Speaker 1: sometimes feel a present or something unseen touches their legs
Speaker 1: while they're trying to sleep. In the basement, which served
Speaker 1: as the makeshift's hospital during the Battle of Gettysburg, people
Speaker 1: have seen spirits tending to injure comrades. According to Rosemary
Speaker 1: Guiley's Ghost Hunting Pennsylvania, it often smells of cigar smoke.
Speaker 1: All these reports have drawn ghost hunters and investigators to
Speaker 1: the cash Town Inn. On one occasion, a rider was
Speaker 1: staying in the room known as the Henry Heathroom, which
Speaker 1: is said to be haunted by the spirit of the
Speaker 1: man who fell from his horse before the Battle of Gettysburg.
Speaker 1: The smallest room in the inn, it holds a bed
Speaker 1: and an armchair, and it's where many people have spotted
Speaker 1: a spirit in a Civil War era uniform. The writers
Speaker 1: said that throughout the night he heard someone knocking on
Speaker 1: the door, only for the hallway to be empty when
Speaker 1: he answered. Another time, in the same room, paranormal investigators
Speaker 1: set up a night vision camera that was pointed at
Speaker 1: a teddy bear and some stuffed balls. If they hoped
Speaker 1: to capture ghostly footage, they'd end up disappointed. As the
Speaker 1: story goes in Mark Nesbit and Patty Wilson's The Big
Speaker 1: Book of Pennsylvania Ghost Stories, the investigator fell asleep. When
Speaker 1: he woke, he found the camera on the floor. It
Speaker 1: wasn't broken, like if it had fallen. Instead, it appeared
Speaker 1: that it had been set there. As for the Teddy Bear,
Speaker 1: it had been turned around so it was looking out
Speaker 1: the window, and the balls were strewn throughout the room.
Speaker 1: The Civil War Ghost's website describes another occasion where a
Speaker 1: couple at the inn heard knocking and footsteps. Unlike in
Speaker 1: the earlier stories, this pair chose to ignore it. While
Speaker 1: they laid in bed, they heard the footsteps draw nearer.
Speaker 1: Now the sound was coming from inside their room. It
Speaker 1: drew closer and closer, continuing right up to the foot
Speaker 1: of their bed. The couple was too terrified to move
Speaker 1: as their mattress began to shift like an invisible visitor
Speaker 1: had climbed onto it. Finally, something unseen clutched the woman's shoulder.
Speaker 2: No thank you.
Speaker 1: Given accounts like these, it's unsurprising that so many guests
Speaker 1: flee their rooms in the middle of the night. Rather
Speaker 1: than spend another minute among the spirits. In an interview
Speaker 1: with Washington Post reporter James f. Leek, the Cashtown Ends
Speaker 1: owner Jack Palladino noted that some of these terrified visitors
Speaker 1: are in such a rush they leave their keys hanging
Speaker 1: in the doorknobs. And it's no wonder as some of
Speaker 1: these incidents have the potential to be dangerous. Most alarmingly,
Speaker 1: one guest reported that when he fell asleep one night,
Speaker 1: his heart medicine was sitting on a table. It was
Speaker 1: missing when he woke up. This all goes beyond a
Speaker 1: simple spirit prank. It seems like the specters are trying
Speaker 1: to get rid of unwanted guests. Most seem to be
Speaker 1: from the Civil War era, and supernatural activity tends to
Speaker 1: spike around July first through the third, the anniversary of
Speaker 1: the Battle of Gettysburg. Perhaps some of the animosity of
Speaker 1: the war lives on in the spirits that remain here.
Speaker 1: I've investigated the Cashtown in and so has my guest
Speaker 1: today with me. Actually, that's right, mister Adam Berry is
Speaker 1: joining us after the break so we can share all
Speaker 1: the experiences we had at the Cash Town Inn. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned all right, I am now joined by one of
Speaker 1: my favorite guests in the whole wide universe, mister Adam Berry.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2: Hi, Amy Bruney.
Speaker 1: It's so nice to have you once again. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many of these places that I cover that
Speaker 1: we've investigated, and we've had so many great experiences at them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just gonna have Adam on so we
Speaker 1: can talk about it.
Speaker 2: You know. I love to talk about ghosts, and I
Speaker 2: love to talk about how crazy we are investigating.
Speaker 1: This is our life at this point. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I wanted to investigate the cash Town in for so long.
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw it well, I'd heard about
Speaker 1: it for years and I'm pretty sure I saw it
Speaker 1: on Ghost Hunters like way back in the day, like
Speaker 1: pre either of us, and I was fascinated by it,
Speaker 1: and so it was so exciting when we got to
Speaker 1: go because we were there for three nights with Kindred
Speaker 1: and it was just us, which was amazing. So it's
Speaker 1: like a bed and breakfast hotel kind of situation and
Speaker 1: we had full access and they cooked for us too,
Speaker 1: which was kind of amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the food was good. I was like, at first
Speaker 2: I was like, are they going to make a silvil
Speaker 2: war like you know, Gettysburg grub. Maybe it's going to
Speaker 2: be like mutton and like beans. But it was not.
Speaker 2: It was actually really good.
Speaker 1: No, they made me like amazing salmon and they had
Speaker 1: a really good pasta. Like I was kind of like
Speaker 1: any requests and so every day and the chef was great.
Speaker 1: And I have a great story about the chef, but
Speaker 1: I'll tell at the end of our interview. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen his wife a few times since, so I
Speaker 1: think it's okay if I tell the story. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of emotional. But anyway, So we did some pretty
Speaker 1: interesting things there. We stayed there, and so we got
Speaker 1: some activity at night. I know, we heard a lot
Speaker 1: of sounds at night, and that's what it's known for.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of bumping and banging and voices,
Speaker 1: and so I think people need to be aware of
Speaker 1: that if they decide to stay there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean it's I feel like when
Speaker 2: we were investigating, it felt like we even though we
Speaker 2: were alone, right it was just the two of us,
Speaker 2: it felt like there were other guests, right, Like there
Speaker 2: were other guests staying with us that we could not
Speaker 2: see like literal ghost guests, ghost guests that were kind
Speaker 2: of wandering around having their own moment in cash down,
Speaker 2: which was so crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never a quiet building. And what I think
Speaker 1: is interesting is that so it has sold since we
Speaker 1: were there. So the gentleman who owned it when we
Speaker 1: were there, he was great, and he was swore up
Speaker 1: and down he was never going to sell the place.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I'm dying here. But then he
Speaker 1: sold it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know. I was like, you know, I never
Speaker 2: say never, I guess, but like I really felt his
Speaker 2: passion for that location, you know, I really Obviously I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. You know, obviously maybe there was
Speaker 2: a reason why I had to sell it, But I
Speaker 2: could feel his passion and his commitment to that location.
Speaker 2: Like it was almost like he was drawn there by
Speaker 2: some unseen force, you know, very shining esque but like
Speaker 2: but like also really into the history and into the preservation.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I hope the new owners are just
Speaker 2: as cool.
Speaker 1: Apparently they're great. Apparently there were like total non believers,
Speaker 1: you know, they bought the property not based on any
Speaker 1: ghostly things, like they just were all about the history.
Speaker 1: It has really interesting history, which I covered in the
Speaker 1: first half. But now I'm hearing that they're actually really
Speaker 1: open to the ghost thing. So I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: since they've purchased it they've had experiences and they need answers,
Speaker 1: Like I haven't gotten the lowdown, but suddenly I've heard
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we could maybe have some people in here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe a bit off more than they could chew for sure.
Speaker 2: And you know, we are going very soon. I don't
Speaker 2: know when this is going to drop, but we're going
Speaker 2: very soon with as strange escapes, So we go ask.
Speaker 1: We are, well, I think we will already have gone
Speaker 1: when it's hers, but people should know that we go
Speaker 1: to Getty's for restrained escapes usually at least once a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll ask them.
Speaker 1: I would like to know. So one thing that I
Speaker 1: think is so interesting is that basement. You know, most basements,
Speaker 1: especially in those old buildings, you go down, it's like
Speaker 1: a dirt floor and there's rocks and things, but like
Speaker 1: this one, it's a body of water. Like what do
Speaker 1: you remember about that?
Speaker 2: First off sketch, very sketchy, like how like one wrong
Speaker 2: move in the dark for a ghost huntter and you
Speaker 2: are in a pool of water. Okay, first and foremost. Two,
Speaker 2: it was wild because that space really hasn't changed since
Speaker 2: the Civil War. I mean it is bare walls, it's bricked,
Speaker 2: brick and stone. Right, there's like a concrete walkway. There's
Speaker 2: water running through it. It's not just stagnant, stale water.
Speaker 2: It is literally like an underground river of some kind.
Speaker 2: And I just remember being transported back to the Battle
Speaker 2: of getty Burg, immediately entering and thinking of the amputations
Speaker 2: that were done there, like the horrors basically the horrors
Speaker 2: of war and what was actually going on down there
Speaker 2: because it is so well preserved, you know, from that
Speaker 2: time period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember watching our crew thinking, you guys are
Speaker 1: going to fall in that amputation water. Yeah, like that,
Speaker 1: because they just kept talking about, like the history, they're
Speaker 1: very clear that two things that just really really stood
Speaker 1: out to me is that A that water ran red
Speaker 1: from all of the amputations they did in that basement
Speaker 1: or in that area, and that b the limbs stacked
Speaker 1: so high that it covered up the basement window, like
Speaker 1: it was just a pile of limbs. And I just
Speaker 1: could not shake that visual the whole time we were
Speaker 1: down there, and then on top of that, there was
Speaker 1: just there's a very oppressive feeling in that basement. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's why, but it just felt very odd.
Speaker 1: And I know we did like set up a whole
Speaker 1: psychomantium using that water as well, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, we had to use I mean, the water's been there, right,
Speaker 2: so the water's flowing in and out like it's always
Speaker 2: been something there. And we had done the psychomantium in
Speaker 2: Gettysburg once before and it worked for us, and you know,
Speaker 2: why not we had a whole body of water. I
Speaker 2: think the setup for that was tricky. We had to
Speaker 2: like hang things over the water, and our crew helped us.
Speaker 2: It was very brave. They helped us because we were like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to fall in, and they were like,
Speaker 2: we don't care. Here we go because they loved the
Speaker 2: idea so much. And you know, I do remember sitting
Speaker 2: there in the dark with the psychomantium and like we
Speaker 2: could both kind of see the reflection of the water
Speaker 2: in the mirror, just waiting for something to happen. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't until we started doing the Estes method, the
Speaker 2: spearbox experiment that it really jumped off for us, like
Speaker 2: it really started getting very active.
Speaker 1: It did. And what was strange is that, you know,
Speaker 1: this isn't this happened to us when we investigate the
Speaker 1: Farnsworth House too. We weren't necessarily in contact with someone
Speaker 1: who died during the Battle of Gettysburg. You know, even
Speaker 1: though there are thousands of people who died in that
Speaker 1: area in that timeframe. A lot of these places, you know,
Speaker 1: other history has happened since then. You know, there's been
Speaker 1: hundreds of years of history since then, and if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, we kind of tuned in on someone who
Speaker 1: might have actually worked there at some point had died
Speaker 1: in like a car accident or something.
Speaker 2: True true. Downstairs in the basement, it was very much
Speaker 2: like Grand Central Station for ghosts. It felt like nobody
Speaker 2: was really staying sticking around. It was like they were
Speaker 2: coming oh right, like they were coming in and going out,
Speaker 2: which makes sense because the Cashtown was that kind of place,
Speaker 2: like it was used as a stagecoach stop, right, and
Speaker 2: so people would stop there and they would stay there
Speaker 2: and they would eat there and then they would kind
Speaker 2: of move on. And that was the vibe. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't until we got upstairs to where the bar was
Speaker 2: where we started talking to this spirit, this person who
Speaker 2: is non living, and it didn't match the vibe of
Speaker 2: like old timey Gettysburg. And we started right right and
Speaker 2: we started.
Speaker 1: All coming back to me now.
Speaker 2: Yes, Selene, but we like we started getting modern day
Speaker 2: speech and almost like a casualness about the conversation. And
Speaker 2: you know, you had to dig into the research to
Speaker 2: figure out what it was after they gave us their name,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's strange because it's such a it's a
Speaker 1: very rural area right there. You know, it's very easy
Speaker 1: to think about the troops like marching down that street,
Speaker 1: but there's really not a lot around and so other
Speaker 1: than that, not a lot had happened. But then I
Speaker 1: did find out about this former employee who had died
Speaker 1: in a car accident. But yeah, just like back to
Speaker 1: the basement really quick. I totally forgot about that. How
Speaker 1: there were just all of these spirits kind of coming
Speaker 1: in and out, and just your personal opinion, you know,
Speaker 1: it is weird that there is a stret like running
Speaker 1: through there. Do you think that has something to do
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: So I think there might be something to that whole
Speaker 2: running water theory about charging an area, you know, possibly, right,
Speaker 2: But I think it's more about a familiarity in my opinion,
Speaker 2: because that's always been that way, right, It's always been
Speaker 2: a river. It's always flowing in and out like it's
Speaker 2: always been that, and so it seems familiar. If a
Speaker 2: spirit didn't know what time period it was and they
Speaker 2: wandered into that space and they saw it and they
Speaker 2: had seen it before, they would immediately be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know what this is, Like it's this cashdown right.
Speaker 2: So I think in a way it's a familiarity, and
Speaker 2: I think it attracts spirits. Maybe it's comforting, right, Maybe
Speaker 2: it's recognizable. Maybe it's something that they can always rely
Speaker 2: on because it's always there, it always looks the same.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we just got a lot of
Speaker 2: activity for sure down there with that right right.
Speaker 1: And I think about people staying there because they you know,
Speaker 1: obviously we experience activity, but you and I tend to
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it's kind of ironic, like what
Speaker 1: we stay in haunted locations because we're around so many ghosts,
Speaker 1: like nothing wakes us up, weird. It is literally like
Speaker 1: waking the dead, like we are. We're so exhausted. We've
Speaker 1: been investigating all night and like we I put on
Speaker 1: my little fan you use scroll TikTok till the week
Speaker 1: hours and then we go to sleep. And so we're
Speaker 1: like the worst people to try to observe activity in
Speaker 1: like an inn, Like we should actually start outsourcing that
Speaker 1: job to someone who's a lot more scared than.
Speaker 2: We are, right, you know what, I feel like we
Speaker 2: should put our crew in that position, right because they
Speaker 2: don't they're not they're into ghosts in a way, but
Speaker 2: they're mostly filming us and when they have activity, they
Speaker 2: turn white, yes, and they're like, oh my god, what's
Speaker 2: going on. We'll just put them in the space because
Speaker 2: then people will be like, oh, that makes sense. You
Speaker 2: should definitely be sleeping there because we pass out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like head, we don't care pillow. I mean, there's only
Speaker 2: been a couple of times. This is what's weird. So
Speaker 2: there's only been a couple of times something has happened
Speaker 2: while we've stayed at these locations. For me, and one
Speaker 2: was literally the Farnsworth House in Gettysburg, which is you know,
Speaker 2: down the road, and I felt the covers being tugged
Speaker 2: on my feet, but of course, of course the camera
Speaker 2: placement where it was focused on me didn't get that
Speaker 2: side of the bed, so you couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how that works exactly.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I heard footsteps at cash Town for sure. In my
Speaker 1: room that kind of like teetering, like yeah, like someone
Speaker 1: kind of shifting their weight. Yeah, And I can't remember
Speaker 1: if I think I was like, hello, is anyone there,
Speaker 1: like hoping I would get some more activity, But it
Speaker 1: was kind of this more like oh, they probably were
Speaker 1: looking at me and going, she's not scared enough, like
Speaker 1: this is no fun.
Speaker 2: Or for us, Like we've spoken to them all day, right,
Speaker 2: like they've been talking, Yeah, they know, okay long And
Speaker 2: so once we get up there and we're trying to sleep,
Speaker 2: it's almost like, oh, they're sleeping what we should be sleeping,
Speaker 2: you know, or something. It's like, oh, no, give it,
Speaker 2: let's give them a break.
Speaker 1: They're just being polite. They're like, oh, they're asleep, let's
Speaker 1: all be really quiet.
Speaker 2: We're like, actually, no, quiet, don't really wake them up.
Speaker 1: They're like nice ghoes. Well, apparently people when they stay there,
Speaker 1: it happens quite often that they are woken up by
Speaker 1: voices pounding on the walls footsteps, and so I think
Speaker 1: maybe it was us, But I know that, like I
Speaker 1: guess if you go in with an open mind, it
Speaker 1: should be okay. I don't think it's enough that like
Speaker 1: people are running out in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: but I mean it is very well known to be haunted.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the bar area too, like obviously
Speaker 1: we got in touch with that more modern spirit, but
Speaker 1: people see apparitions of like soldiers in uniform in that
Speaker 1: area as well.
Speaker 2: Right, I think, well, look, we know where the Cashtown
Speaker 2: was before, even though it was used sort of like
Speaker 2: as a like a facility, you know, where there was
Speaker 2: wounded soldiers, and there was amputations, and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, a lot of death. But also
Speaker 2: it always has been and still is a bed and breakfast.
Speaker 2: So I feel like the activity is in line with
Speaker 2: that sort of thing, right, Like, yes, there'll be Civil
Speaker 2: War ghosts for sure, but like you said, there could
Speaker 2: be anyone someone from the nineteen fifties who stayed there
Speaker 2: that wanted to wants to go back there as a ghost,
Speaker 2: Like it's a familiar spot. They know where, you know,
Speaker 2: and so they show up. It has that vibe I
Speaker 2: mean it is. It can be kind of screepy, obviously,
Speaker 2: but it's a very lived in and very well traveled environment,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's one of those places where a lot
Speaker 1: of memories have been forged.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure people have gone on their honeymoons there. I'm
Speaker 1: sure people have been married there. I think that that
Speaker 1: kind of goes for a lot of hotels. We've long
Speaker 1: speculated that in death, you're not necessarily tied to one location,
Speaker 1: Like maybe you do go back and revisit at places
Speaker 1: that made you happy at some point, or that were
Speaker 1: nostalgic for you, and maybe that's part of it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, as you could tell by the owner then
Speaker 1: he was so connected to the place, like he talked
Speaker 1: about it like it was like family to him, which
Speaker 1: is why I'm so surprised he's sold, So there has
Speaker 1: to be something else going on. But he really was
Speaker 1: like just just completely wrapped up in that place. And
Speaker 1: so if that's how the owner is, imagine people visiting
Speaker 1: it's special. It's a really special place.
Speaker 2: It is, and you know it's not it's not your
Speaker 2: ordinary Gettysburg haunt stop either, because everything else is really
Speaker 2: downtown right, right, every like Jenny Wade Orphanage goes tour Barnsworth,
Speaker 2: it's all sort of Gettysburg Hotel. It's always it's all
Speaker 2: sort of like contained. And then you have the cash Town,
Speaker 2: which is almost like the last point a spirit or
Speaker 2: a person will see before they go to their travels,
Speaker 2: and it's the first place they counter before they get
Speaker 2: into Gettysburg. It's like a mile marker, it's a milestone
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's not even technically a Gettysburg. It's cash Town.
Speaker 2: So it's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so associated with what happened in Gettysburg.
Speaker 1: But I will say, so I have time to tell
Speaker 1: this story. I had a very I had a very
Speaker 1: weird and spiritual experience at the Cash Town. In to
Speaker 1: this day, people asked me to tell this story, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell it here so everyone knows. You
Speaker 1: know the story, so love it. Okay. So basically, anyone
Speaker 1: who follows me on social media knows that I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like a vintage car nut and I have a couple.
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm no Jay Leno by any stretch,
Speaker 1: but I have a couple. And so at this point
Speaker 1: I was looking for a convertible Volkswagen Beetle like Super
Speaker 1: Beetle Buck like a seventies version. They stopped making them
Speaker 1: in seventy nine. The super Beetle anyway for car buffs
Speaker 1: listening to me. So, I was looking for this particular car,
Speaker 1: and I've been looking all over the place and I
Speaker 1: just could not find one in the show shape that
Speaker 1: I wanted for the price that I wanted. And so
Speaker 1: we were sitting there the first day we were shooting
Speaker 1: and suddenly this man just flies into the parking lot
Speaker 1: and this little red convertible Super Beetle and I look
Speaker 1: at it and I'm like, oh my god, that's the
Speaker 1: car I want. I looked at it, I could see
Speaker 1: it was in great shape. He goes inside. It's the
Speaker 1: chef that's cooking for us. He works there, and so
Speaker 1: I go up to him and I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: bug for sale? And He's like, it could be, and
Speaker 1: I said, And so we kind of over the next
Speaker 1: few days while we were there, we discussed terms. I
Speaker 1: got my mechanic on FaceTime, you know, mister X was there,
Speaker 1: Jimmy was there. We went through the whole car. It
Speaker 1: was in great condition, runs really well, and so I
Speaker 1: made him an offer and he said he's gonna go
Speaker 1: he's going to go talk to his wife about it.
Speaker 1: So the last day we're there, he texted me that
Speaker 1: the offer was good. They were good with it. So
Speaker 1: the last day were there, he shows up with the car,
Speaker 1: but he's very emotional, like tearing up, and he says,
Speaker 1: I need to tell you a story about this car.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, in my brain, I'm like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: not going to sell it to me. Like I could
Speaker 1: tell he was really torn up about selling it. So
Speaker 1: we walk across the street away from everybody, and he
Speaker 1: tells me how I think it was like twenty years
Speaker 1: before he and his soon to be wife or no,
Speaker 1: they had just gotten married. They went on their honeymoon
Speaker 1: in Salem, Massachusetts. She had been begging him to buy
Speaker 1: a red convertible Beetle and he kept saying, no, it's
Speaker 1: not in the budget. We can't. You know, he's very frugal.
Speaker 1: He's like, we can't afford this, like it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. But they're on their honeymoon and they're driving
Speaker 1: down the street and they see this red convertible Beetle
Speaker 1: with a for sale sign on it, and she's like, please,
Speaker 1: can we call the number please? And he's like fine,
Speaker 1: So they call the phone number from a payphone and
Speaker 1: the guy shows up and he gives them the keys
Speaker 1: and he's like, just take it for the day and
Speaker 1: joy have fun. And they're on their honeymoon. So they
Speaker 1: take the Beetle and they drive it all over Salem
Speaker 1: and they have the best day and they're like, we
Speaker 1: have to have this car. So they like, I think
Speaker 1: they said they had either train or plane tickets. They
Speaker 1: cash those in. They took out advances on their credit
Speaker 1: card and they bought this car and it was like
Speaker 1: their dream car. And they drove it back, drove it
Speaker 1: back to Gettysburg and they'd had it all this time.
Speaker 1: And as they were getting older, though they just did
Speaker 1: it's a manual transmission, they couldn't drive it as much,
Speaker 1: and so they just it was sitting more than they
Speaker 1: wanted it to and they really wanted it to go
Speaker 1: to a good home, right and so you know, he said,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to sell it to you, but I
Speaker 1: just need you to know that, like this this vehicle
Speaker 1: has like personified our marriage, Like I love this woman
Speaker 1: more than anything and this is the hardest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever done. But we know how much you want this.
Speaker 1: We saw how much your daughter loves the carcas. Charlotte
Speaker 1: was there and he's like, we know she's going to
Speaker 1: the right owner. And it was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: well thank you, and like, so we do the transaction
Speaker 1: and everything, and I get Jenny and I called the
Speaker 1: bug Jenny because I named her after Jenny Wade because
Speaker 1: I got her Getty's verg So fast forward. You and
Speaker 1: I are on our next case. We're in New Hampshire, right,
Speaker 1: We're investigating a bed and breakfast and as we're sitting there,
Speaker 1: Jenny's getting delivered to my house in Newport, Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy sends me a video of her coming off
Speaker 1: the delivery truck, right, and he's like, look who's here.
Speaker 1: And so We're sitting with the owners of the bed
Speaker 1: and breakfast and I'm like, oh my gosh, look, and
Speaker 1: I'm showing them the video. I'm like, I just got
Speaker 1: this car. I found it in Gettysburg. You won't believe
Speaker 1: the story. And I tell them the story about the
Speaker 1: man and his wife, and the guy looks at me
Speaker 1: and he says, hold on a second, you're not going
Speaker 1: to believe this, and I'm like, oh. He leaves the
Speaker 1: room and he comes back with a cookbook and he
Speaker 1: opens it and it says, thanks for a wonderful honeymoon's day.
Speaker 1: You were fabulous love Brian and Mary. It was the couple,
Speaker 1: the guys that we were investigating. They had owned a
Speaker 1: bed and breakfast in Salem, Massachusetts, years before, and the
Speaker 1: couple had honeymoon at that bed and breakfast and got
Speaker 1: in the car and they remembered the story. So it
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 2: That ever so wild. I mean, that's the craziest story
Speaker 2: because when you talk about like synchronicities and like weird
Speaker 2: things that happen in our lives, like, yeah, coincidences or coincidences,
Speaker 2: But that is out of all of the people that
Speaker 2: we could have met at Cashtown, you met the guy
Speaker 2: who's making this wonderful food, who like drives up in
Speaker 2: a bug, And of all the places that we could
Speaker 2: have gone to investigate right after, it's the couple that
Speaker 2: owned the bed and breakfast in Salem that they say
Speaker 2: that that is literally mathematically impossible.
Speaker 1: To me, it was insane, and they were like they
Speaker 1: kept in touch with them even and so he knew exactly.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're not going to leave this. He's like,
Speaker 1: they stayed at our bed and breakfast. This happened at
Speaker 1: our bed and breakfast. So it was just like, holy crap.
Speaker 1: And so since then, I've actually met the wife. I've
Speaker 1: done I did a show in Pennsylvania and they came
Speaker 1: out and I got to meet her. So it was lovely.
Speaker 1: It was just such a lovely story. So now every
Speaker 1: time I look back at the cash Town, like I
Speaker 1: have that to remember it. Every time I look in
Speaker 1: my driveway and I see little Jenny the Bug, I
Speaker 1: think of our wonderful time we spent there, and how
Speaker 1: you know, the world is just so connected, you never
Speaker 1: know how.
Speaker 2: After all these years, the cash Down is still making
Speaker 2: memories for people who visit for all, and that is
Speaker 2: part of the haunt. I mean, that's part of its legacy.
Speaker 1: I think. So so well, it's been lovely to have you.
Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1: You have a book that recently came out. Tell us
Speaker 1: all about it, please.
Speaker 2: I My book just came out. It's called Goodbye Hello,
Speaker 2: Processing Grief and understanding death through the paranormal. It's a
Speaker 2: great read spooky stories, but also great conversations on the
Speaker 2: afterlife and near death experiences and dream visitations, which I
Speaker 2: know you contributed a beautiful story to. So hopefully everybody
Speaker 2: can go out in and snag a copy.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we're always doing things too, so people want
Speaker 1: to catch up with us, sometimes together, sometimes separate. So
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm so happy about your book. It's
Speaker 1: lovely and it's nice to chat with you. And hopefully, Oh,
Speaker 1: I will see you in person very soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see you very soon.
Speaker 1: The Battle of Gettysburg was violent and bloody, and the
Speaker 1: reverberations persist today. Not only is the famous battlefield said
Speaker 1: to be haunted, but so is the surrounding area, including
Speaker 1: the cash town in We may not know precisely what
Speaker 1: the spirits at the old hotel are trying to tell
Speaker 1: us with their visitations, but we can be certain the
Speaker 1: haunting will continue until the troubled souls find a way
Speaker 1: to rest in peace. I'm Amy Bruney and this was
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