1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we can officially announce the 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Stretch run is here. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio with Patrick Claybah 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and Jordan rod Reeg. And I like words to have 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: definitive meaning. Okay, I think we should define the stretch 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: run as the section of the season where the buys 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: are over. Everyone has the same record, four game sprint 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: can be done. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: I am I am co signing this. This is the 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: official beginning of the stretch run. Any previous use is 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: thereby in val. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: Okay, the architect of the conversation speaks. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: These two things are connected because I think the stretch 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: run ultimately decides the conversation. And I made up this 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: definition forty five seconds ago while speaking Yeah, but I 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: like it. 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: I think it's just no. 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: It should absolutely stand and reminds me of famed sayer 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: of things, Cole Beasley saying that any dogs don't stretch 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: before they run. But famously you see dogs stretching all 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: the time, and. 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: Not only that big strep. 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: If nobody says big stretch, that never the stretch never happened. 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: So last week I called it the best slate of 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: the season, and it was. But I gotta say the 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: top of this slate and a lot of good matchups too, 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: So maybe this, I hope this is in every week thing. 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't looked ahead, but we got like 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: five or six bangers plus Philip Rivers returning to football. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: Just like an amazing combination of things. 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: Shout out to Philip Rivers and shout out to everybody 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: under the age of forty four who can now A 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: lot of us look look up and say, hey, somebody 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: older than me getting back into it. So congratulations in 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: that aspect. But we've also got a lot at stick. 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions are trying to get into the postseason 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: as that becomes into a threat in the Los Angeles 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Rams trying to maintain that course towards the number one 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: seed in the NFC. It is a Jared Golf annual, 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: Jared Goff revenge game. Greg rolsent all the Rams were 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: favored by five and a half points against those lines 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: over under his fifty five and a half Kevin Berkhart 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: and Tom Brady there to see these two teams go 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: at it. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 5: How do you see it going? 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch it. I think about what 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell said at the start of the season. It 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: was almost like he was trying to lower expectations. Team 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: might have seen what was coming that Hey, sometimes it's 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: not about the shiny record in the regular season. Maybe 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: this is gonna have to be a team that earns 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: its stripes. And however we get into the playoffs, the 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: important part is that we're playing well. 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: Then we're not worried about seeding. Here. 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: They are needing a win in the worst way in 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: a matchup that, yeah, they have won in the biggest 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: of spots. You know, they won in the playoffs, and 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: then they won in the following week one, and these 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: two teams just don't feel like those two teams anymore. 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I should have mentioned Jordan by the way, we're leading 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: with the afternoon slate and the prime time I'm slate 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: this week because they're just there's so many good games 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: in this window and you are not going to be 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the one to sign to this game. This is going 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: to be a Patrick claybound special. 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: I love Rams. 68 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: The Rams can clinch a playoff berth if they win 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: this game, and that is significant obviously, and I have 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: to say, I for one am glad that the most 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: important thing about this game for either team is playoff implications, 72 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: and that potentially for the for the Rams and also 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions fighting hard to stay alive and in 74 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: the hunt if they are, you know, on the graphic 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: and in the wild card consideration in the graphic right now, 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: not the history and layers and folds of drama that 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: we have talked about for years at this point about 78 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: what got Matthew Stafford to Los Angeles and got Jared 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Goff to Detroit. Instead, it's let's tuck football, guys. 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: But isn't the matchup in terms of how Stafford right now? Oh, 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: it's great, maybe leading the conversation has a better match 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: up up and is supported crazily by a better running 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: game than the Lions, by a better defense than the Lions, 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: by a better pass rush than the Lions. I think 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: that's really flipped since the last time these two teams played, 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Not that there was that much of a difference, but 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: it felt like Patrick like the Lions were a more 88 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: complete team then and that the Rams are a more 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: complete team now. 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when you consider the once again the Lions 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: going through injuries in the secondary, albeit there at the 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: safety spot. Now where Kirby Joe's not one hundred percent 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: Brian branch out for the remainder of the twenty twenty 94 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: five season, where you've seen those guys for the past 95 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: couple of seasons, even when the rest of the injuries 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: were taking place in the secondary kind of eliminate that 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: mid ten to nineteen yard aspect of the field where 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford has been dominant, and again Stafford's dominant everywhere 99 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: with the bye for Drake May. 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: Ye, well, well we'll put. 101 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: An asterisk all because a lot of guys have struggled 102 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: in the elements. As you know, fans of bad football 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: like this, fifty four points right now has Matthew Stafford 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: in the lead because Drake May was coming off of 105 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: a bye. 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: Out for the conversation, yes. 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: This because we do count the Lions as a contender 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: and Jamiir Gibbs has worked his way up into a 109 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: necessary aspect of the conversation where Stafford will get bonus 110 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: points for beating a contender and double those as we 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: get it into late this season. So we're tracking that. 112 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: We keep track of everything here, but it's hard. It's 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: hard to go lines. I know the Lions look great 114 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: against the Dallas Cowboys, but there's just so many other 115 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: aspects where Ceedee Lamb left that game. 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 5: Puka is playing insane football right now. 117 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: Like a crazy person who's actually catching everything to where 118 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go rams here. 119 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: And the Lions, because of the injuries that you mentioned, 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: they have given up the fourth most number of explosive 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: plays in the NFL to this point, which is surprising 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: because you do watch them play, and they play with 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: such tenacity, and they're very well coached by Calvin Sheppard 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: and and you know, it's a complete miss thing. To 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: your point, Greg, I think it's really interesting how you 126 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: mentioned some of the flipping of fates of the roster 127 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: builds of these teams. It's also the flipping of fates 128 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: in the waves of some of the offensive tendencies. And 129 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, Sean McVay when Jared Goff was his quarterback, 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: built one of the most complete and explosive run games 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: that we had seen in the NFL to that point 132 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: with Todd Gurley and got the play action pass game going. Well. 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: When Matthew Stafford comes to town, it's pure drop back 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: and keep the defense in front of you and don't 135 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: flip your back and throw the ball the hell down 136 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: the field, right, But no run game to speak of. 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: But now they've got everything and they're not They're using 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: Stafford in some of that play action, which is leading 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: to some of the explosive plays. And the offensive line 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: is protecting really, really well, which is also something that 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: they had struggled with from time to time, despite the 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: fact that they have injuries. And I've got a serious 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: eye on Warren McClendon, who's filling in at right tackle 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: and has for six games to this season for the 145 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: injured Rob Havenstein, because if there is a hinge point 146 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: in this game, it's right there, because Aiden Hutchinson lines 147 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: up on both sides of the defensive line and on 148 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: third downs. As Patrick clayboughn Astuteley pointed out before the show. 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: Jordan, I don't know why she's giving me credit. 150 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: He loads up. That's what we say. You helped me. 151 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: You helped me access the correct space to look this up. 152 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: I was like, where's the heat chart? 153 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Damn it? 154 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: He loads up over the right side, over across from 155 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: the right tackle. Excuse me. And so that's to me, 156 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: if Warren mccleaning can keep playing at this level that 157 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: he's playing at, which is only four pressures given up 158 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: on two hundred and seven pass block Oh no sacks, 159 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: then the Rams are going to be able to protect. 160 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't had as deep and dynamic a pass 161 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: rush to the Lions as they would want. Hutchinson's obviously great, 162 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: My defensive player the year, Honking from the first half 163 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: of the scene. That's died down a little bit, but 164 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: he's obviously still a great player. 165 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: But you need more than one guy. 166 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Alee McNeil's maybe not had the same impact that he 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: had pre injury after that that first week he was back, 168 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: But I really just look at the like the running game. 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Kirby Joseph that is just like 170 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: an injury item to watch because he's had this same 171 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: injury that's been bothering him all year that I think 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's it might never go away. But 173 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: he did return to practice on Wednesday, so this might 174 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: be the week that he gives it. Ago Alex Angzeloni, though, 175 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: who got hurt late in that Lion's game, was not 176 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: a practice Wednesday, so that's something to keep an eye. 177 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: The thing is, when I watch this running game right now, 178 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: And I know they just played the Cardinals, but the 179 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: Rams running game, they're just getting such pushed, such cohesion, 180 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: such great running, and there's no drop off whatsoever. When 181 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: they go to Blake Koram and he adds a little 182 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: more juice to what Kien Williams did. I wouldn't say 183 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: he's better, but he Sean McVay is finally doing the 184 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: thing that he said that he was gonna do forever, 185 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: which is truly happening right. Have like two backs that 186 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: that carried load together, and Korum's kind of doing the 187 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: thing that Kien Williams did, which is it's not an 188 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: easy offense for running back and it's a second year 189 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: leap where it really took him a little while to 190 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: get going, kind of like Kyrian Williams, and then the 191 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: second year they just take off on. 192 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: The on the flip side. 193 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Though you've been talking about it all year, Jordan, as 194 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: they throw my note, card Rade, these Rams corners uh 195 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: their problem and I know there was it was a 196 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: blowout last week, but you know who's getting smoked a 197 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: lot in that game. Emmanuel Forbes for a second straight week, 198 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and a Kello Witherspoon, who hasn't been great this season. 199 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: So if there's a strength of the Lions, like they 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: know how to pick on your secondary, Monro is hopefully 201 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: a little healthier off of a mini buy and it 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: could be a fun little shootout. 203 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, all Witherspoon's like clavicle was broken 204 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 4: in half, So if he was on injured reserve for 205 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: most of the season to this point. 206 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: Well, since he came back, right, I'm saying he had 207 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: a rough week last week. 208 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: He had a bad He had a bad week last week. 209 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: And I would say Emmanuel Forbes had a really really 210 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 4: strong middle stretch. But we're in the stretch run, Patrick, 211 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: That's what I mean. 212 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: Once the stretch run begins, which is officially right now 213 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: because there are no more buys as to find by 214 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal and second and third here on the show, 215 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: this is the stretch run. 216 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: So you can't clavicle or not. 217 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: If you have all your body parts and you're out 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: there getting torched, it's the stretch run. 219 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: We got a notice and the Rams like, yeah, they're 220 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: trying to win the division. You have the Seahawks and 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: the Lions in a five day stretch, which is crazy, 222 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: but they're also trying to get the one seed. So 223 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I know they could win the division if they gave 224 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: this game up and then one on Thursday. But a 225 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: one seed is a playoff victory. So their only route 226 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: really to a one seed is winning these two games. 227 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: And the Lions they're not out of it if they 228 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: lose it, but they'll be in a pretty tough big one. 229 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: You want to talk about one seeds, Let's go over 230 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: to the AFC, where right. 231 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: Now the number one seed Denver. 232 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: Broncos riding a win streak, a huge thick game win streak, 233 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: the over under forty two and a half. 234 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: But the Broncos in this wind streak are not favored 235 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: because Toyota Than is on the. 236 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: December to Remember Sales event, whatever Toyota and Lex's family 237 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: sales event in the holidays. You want to discuss Jordan 238 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Rodrieg because Jordan Love is super hot right now, Jim, 239 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, Jim and Tony Romo on the call, 240 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: how do you see it going? 241 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm so happy right now? 242 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 243 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: The best thing about Jordan Love playing like this every 244 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: year during Toyota Than is a new tradition that Patrick 245 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: Clayban and I have started in the Z room month Sundays, 246 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: which every time he makes a throw, pointing at each 247 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: other across the cubicles and going Toyota than I love it. 248 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 4: I asked Greg if I could have this game this 249 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 4: These are my two favorite among my two favorite defenses, 250 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 4: it goes Houston Texans, Green Bay Packers, Denver Broncos, Los 251 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: Angeles Rams, Seattle Seahawks up there as well in my 252 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: hierarchy and no particular order, even though I said hierarchy. 253 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: I think that this game is going to be an 254 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: absolute rock fight. Like I know that we've seen both 255 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: of these offenses really turn on, especially the last couple 256 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: of weeks. Green Bay especially having Christian Watson as the 257 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: bona fide dude number one for Jordan Love with five 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: touchdowns in four games, and that beautiful moment the Lambeau 259 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: Leap last week, and with bo Nicks playing really well 260 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: and that offensive line just rocking and rolling for the Broncos. 261 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: I get all of that. I see all of that, 262 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: But these two defenses are reaching the apex of their 263 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: powers right now. And the way that Jeff Hafley came 264 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: out of the bye week and the way that you 265 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: know and the way that the Broncos avinced, Joseph is 266 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: scheming things up again with Patrick's certain back. It is 267 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: absolutely gorgeous to watch, and it's physical and it covers 268 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: so much ground and it annoys you if you're the quarterback. 269 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: And I love it and I cannot wait to watch this. 270 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: Which team, which quarterback is like more prepared to deal 271 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: with the other defense? 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: Greg The obviously answer would be would be love. 273 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: But I think in terms of bo Nick's having the coach, 274 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Matt Lafleur is an advantage 275 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: over Sewan p and then certainly the offensive line, I 276 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: think bo Nix has the advantage right now. It is 277 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: interesting the Packers who have been just rotating and trying 278 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to figure out what is our best five and everyone 279 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: is changing positions all the time, and then obviously they 280 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: have that injury where they lose Elton Jenkins their center. 281 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: It has allowed them to kind of settle into who 282 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: they think their five is. 283 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: Now. 284 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: They have their rookie Anthony Belton at right guard. Right now, 285 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: they have last year's first round pick, Jordan Morgan's just 286 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: ben he doesn't play anymore. 287 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: They're no longer rotating. 288 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: It seemed like they played pretty well overall last week, 289 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: but it is a real test for that offensive line 290 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: this week against Vance Joseph In the players upfront and 291 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the types of pressures that they want to give. And 292 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: so if you're looking for an advantage for the Broncos, 293 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: I think that's it right there, to test these young 294 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: players for the Packers. 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not playing any of their first round 296 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: picks right now. 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: Matthew Golden and Jordan Morgan, No wonder y'ah, they felt 298 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: okay trading away picks for Michael Parsons, like you know 299 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: what you're getting Michael Parsons. You never know what you're 300 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna get out of your first round. 301 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Pick, and I think the biggest bonus of not knowing 302 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: what they get back. I think all of my fellow 303 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: ac Aliens, everybody who's ever dealt with it, are pouring 304 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: through the data right now trying to find what did 305 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: Christian Watson do, Like what was the exact rehab format? 306 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: Because coming back he's looked great, he's looked explosive. 307 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Can I give you the numbers, Yeah, four hundred and 308 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: fifty two yards and seven touchdowns. 309 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: It's preposterous. How many games does he play not. 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: That many right week nine is that the return. 311 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: It's seven games there, I mean, that is an outrageous 312 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: total for seven games. 313 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: And so like you, you hope to see that. And 314 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: again I love CJGJ. CJGJ showed a little bit of 315 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: where on the tire trying to chase Christian Watson across 316 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: the field. 317 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: The secondary a little bit better in this one. 318 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: And they actually have a pass rush unlike the Chicago Bears, 319 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: and so both of these pass rushes kind of marquee 320 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: in this. And I know we I got on Sean 321 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: Payton for hide and Bonnicks a little. That's the game 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: type I think that's involved here where all of these 323 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: Broncos screens that they have been running constantly, like it's 324 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: like why are we doing this? 325 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 5: Go down the field. 326 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: You can kind of not eliminate micro Parsons in there, 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: but provide that little bit of hesitation for both Parsons 328 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: and Gary and this very active front seven who you know, 329 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: we saw that hit on Kylevin Nungai where paints flying off. 330 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: They're triggering so early, and I think that's when Sean 331 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Payton with his you know the yeah, the bifocals and 332 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: the and the big play sheet, like the screens are 333 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: big in this one, I lean Broncos in a rock fight. 334 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: If it's a rock fight, I'm taking the twenty twenty 335 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: five BRONXEE. 336 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: I love that. I love that point you made about 337 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: the screens because for the listeners it is such a 338 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: timing and math play right, because you are timing not 339 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: only the screen to really pop loose right when the 340 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: past rusher is, you know, be on the point of 341 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: no turning back and flipping his body around and then 342 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: containing that player in the flat right or in the 343 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: tunnel if you're running in inside screen. What you're also 344 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: doing is you're timing the cadence. You're making them think 345 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: that you're going to run a longer developing play, but 346 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: you're disguising it in order to bait the pass rush 347 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: into coming at you and then dumping the ball off. 348 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Sean Payton designs those It's like him and Andy Reid. 349 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: Those guys designed those types of screens, the timing screens 350 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: that really mess with the defensive end's mind and a 351 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: pass rusher's mind better than anybody else. I think that 352 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: we've ever really seen. And I think that I love 353 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: that you brought that up, Patrick, because I think that 354 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: does become such a massive factor in this game. And 355 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: then it's gonna ask Jeff Hafley to bring his DBS 356 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: down a little bit further. And while Keishaw Nixon and 357 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: company have played great, you know, you also see just 358 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: as many shots of Matt Leffloor screaming at him on 359 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: the sideline. 360 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: Right. 361 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: So this this game, I think is going to be 362 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: such an interesting, like bait and switch kind of mind game. 363 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Before well, and Quai Walker is back, and Quay Walker 364 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: will do one thing, He'll fly around It's like not 365 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: in the right direction. 366 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: Eddrin Cooper. 367 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a perfect football player and he would 368 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: be the perfect guy. 369 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: To help stop I love him. 370 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: These screens and both these running games have been uneven 371 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season, and both are feeling 372 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: better I think about themselves right now than they have 373 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: for most of the season. I thought Rgi Harvey ran 374 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: awesome last week, and granted it was against the Raiders, 375 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: but I think he's just sort of running with a 376 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: little more confidence in general. And then Josh Jacobs had 377 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: his big moments last week and it's a brutal stretch 378 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: run for Denver because like, yeah, they're going for the 379 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: one seed, absolutely, but they also are playing the Packers, 380 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the Jags, they're in Kansas City, and the Chargers. So 381 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: every week they are in one of these games in 382 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: our first block. And you say, bo Nicks is playing 383 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: what did you say better? 384 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: Better? 385 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: He is playing better? I thought he played really well 386 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. I do think there's gonna be moments 387 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: in this stretch run where it needs to be on 388 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: bow a little bit more in a way that it 389 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: hasn't needed to be so far. 390 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: I would like to release a quick statement, Oh wow, okay. 391 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: On the See You Next Tuesday show, I referred to 392 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: the actor who bo Nick's most resembles as William Dafoe. 393 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: What I should have said instead was Willem Dafoe that 394 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: that's on me and I take full responsibility for my act. 395 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: Wow. 396 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 397 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I corrected it in the moment, just suddenly, you know 398 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: when I called that. 399 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: As you as Hansom Man, as you do, Yes, and 400 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: a great, a great villain, as you know, well a 401 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: lot of you know, you get in a lot of 402 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: situations in these films where you get a charismatic villain. Yeah, 403 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 3: and you have people saying wild stuff like kil Marker 404 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: was right. Well, Willem Dafoe a good spot. People don't 405 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: miss the point. It's time for the Sunday Drive presented 406 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: by Toyota. Let's go places Minnesota at Dallas. The five 407 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: and a half point favorite, Dallas Cowboys taking on nine 408 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: who looked great. Greg Rosen's all. The over under is 409 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: forty seven and a half. It is Sunday Night football, 410 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: so you get Mike Turco and Chris Collinsworth on the call. 411 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 3: How good does JJ McCarthy look against this Cowboys defense 412 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: that has made some people look pretty good in twenty 413 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: twenty five. 414 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: I think he'll look better than he did before he 415 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: sat that game out, because last week did feel like 416 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: a step forward. I went to watch that back with 417 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: a skeptical eye. You know, it didn't have a ton 418 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: of you know, reps in terms of like just dropbacks. 419 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: That first drive was perfect. He's hitting his first reads 420 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot, but there were a couple plays later where 421 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: he gets to the second or third read. There were 422 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: a couple of really nice deep outs. There were virtually 423 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: no mistakes at all, and he did seem a little 424 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: quicker to just try to pick up a couple of 425 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: yards or take like a lesser sack or in the game. 426 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: And so if they can get that opening script obviously 427 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: as on the money as they did against the Commanders, 428 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: he's not going to be the deciding factor in this game. 429 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: And then you know, you just hope like the rest 430 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: of his teammates, which are a great like set up 431 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: of great teammates, like they had their offensive line completely back. 432 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: I think that was a huge part of it. 433 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Ran the ball great. 434 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: It's an easy matchup, I get it, But that one 435 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: performance did give me some optimism for the stretcher on 436 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: that he can just normalize into like a normal quarterback 437 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: who won't prevent you from playing like a competitive game, 438 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: which is how he was playing before. 439 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 4: We saw the vision. They brought in Jordan Mason to 440 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: help compliment Aaron Jones in a really natural way, and 441 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: you saw what it was supposed to look like, and 442 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: you understood like the theory behind it. And really, I 443 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: think last week, and it's been in spurts and fits, right, 444 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: but especially the beginning of the year and then all 445 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: the quarterback drama happens last week, you really saw what 446 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: this thing is, how this really can help JJ McCarthy. 447 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 4: That was what Kevin O'Connell and Quasia do Flamensa intended 448 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: when they made these decisions, was that, yes, we are 449 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: admitting we have to have a great system and a 450 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: great supporting cast around this quarterback as he grows up 451 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: as a human being and also in the National Football League. 452 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: And so I think that you saw, yes it's the Commanders, 453 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 4: and yes this was a weird game and a sad 454 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: one for the Commanders as well, but you're really seeing 455 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: these like putting the blueprint on paper, games are really 456 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 4: important for a football team, and they were there. Every 457 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: single one of them is important for JJ McCarthy. 458 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: I think the blueprint that we've seen for so long 459 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: that did return for the Minnesota Vikings was AVG getting 460 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: a tipped interception on the edge Harrison Smithinkle extending his 461 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: active NFL lead in terms of career players in terms 462 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: of interceptions. But the bit of the outlier against this 463 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Commander's defense, which was faulting. And I know that they 464 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: had Dayron Payne back in this game, but the interior 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: pressure is a real issue for JJ McCarthy when he 466 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: can't get that full, big stride into the throws and 467 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: Quentin Williams has changed the interior situation in Dallas where 468 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: it makes it makes me worried for this whole EBB 469 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: and flow and roller coaster. 470 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy discussion nationally that we. 471 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: May be oh yes, Sunday night. 472 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean that step forward was like a nice little step. 473 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: It's not going to mean anything if he has like 474 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: a bad quarter and a half. And we've seen rookies 475 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: in a tightly managed game like survive well for one 476 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: week that the test is gonna be this next month. 477 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: But I think as we saw, you know, against the Lions, 478 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense like still will have holes in the 479 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: back end. 480 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Ron Bland's a good player. 481 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: He has given up the fourth most yard in coverage 482 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Travon Diggs, like, I don't know if 483 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna return or not. I thought it was interesting 484 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: that Brian Schottenheimer said that we need to see Travon 485 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: Diggs do everything the right way as he's coming back. 486 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: So this weird public back and forth between the team 487 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: and Digs. And yeah, I just I'm not buying in 488 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: that the Dallas defense is suddenly like a top ten defense. 489 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: No, but I love their front now. I do. I mean, 490 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: I loved it with Mike Marsons on it too. I 491 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 4: keep spraying at you. I'm sorry, Greg. 492 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 5: Tells ourself, so sorry. 493 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: It's a nautio medium. No one's seen it, nobody, nobody 494 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 4: would have known. I I love their front. I love 495 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 4: Quinn Williams. He's playing honestly, with so much joy too. 496 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: It's it's like he's he's getting to show the world 497 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: what we've always known. He's he's capable of doing and 498 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: kind of out of a sad rebuild place once again. 499 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: And I I really like this defensive front. The back 500 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: seven I don't trust one bit. Some of it's feast 501 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: or famine, and other parts of it just have fundamental 502 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: issues and some tackling and there's yeah, there's a lot 503 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: of famine in there. But I I do really like 504 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: how they've been shaping this front and they they're they're 505 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: attacking the ball. You know, guys like Sam Williams making 506 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 4: plays and and Quinn Williams having like the best month 507 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: and a half of his career to this point. It's 508 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: it's special to watch. 509 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: And that's the side of the ball to me that 510 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: will will be interesting and this is a good Sunday 511 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Night game despite the Vikings record, because I think they 512 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: are about the perfect spoiler down the stretch of any team. 513 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: But the other side of the ball is where it 514 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: really gets cooking. Like Dak Prescott Bert versus Floor is, 515 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: and this young offensive line for the Cowboys, which has 516 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: mostly been good and getting better, trying to figure out 517 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: everything that they send at it, and they Tyler's Yeah, 518 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: all the Tylers got the Booker, We got Tyler Smith. 519 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Actually we don't have Tyler Guyton, so we don't have 520 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: all the Tylers now, but we have multiple tylers, two 521 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: thirds of the Tylers, and and Dak coming off a 522 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: game where like he was up for the fight. We'll 523 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: see about Ceedee Lamb's status this week, but that that 524 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Vikings defense on on turf and everything, like, I don't know, 525 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm really looking. 526 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 4: Forward to, you know what. And we already got through 527 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: the first George Pickens crash out of the year and 528 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: so we're good, right, it'll be it'll be great. 529 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the rough Pickins game being true lead from the 530 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: booth on product. 531 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: Oh my god, don't even get me started on that. 532 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm wondering what George did was to Herbie specifically. 533 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I missed that because Herbstreet is white noise to me 534 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: and I just try to block it out. 535 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Go to the radio if you can. 536 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: But it caused ten days of conversation of like, you 537 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: know this kind of you know, can George Pickens be 538 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: trusted with a long term contract? 539 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: Does he give the great up? Yes he can. 540 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: I'll answer it for you, Yes he can. 541 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, he didn't battle for a couple of those, boss, 542 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Multiple things can be true. Uh huh, George Pickens since 543 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: he came in the league does have more reps. Uh 544 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: that where he did not give great effort than almost 545 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: what any wide receiver since he's entered the league. Like 546 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: that was a thing on tape in Pittsburgh, which is 547 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: crazy because there's so many other snaps and obviously he's 548 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: been incredible all season where he gives somehow like more 549 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: effort than anyone else on the field. So so there, 550 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: that does just add a little. 551 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 4: Bit of context and also that you know who you're like, 552 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: you know who you're paying, Like, I don't think it 553 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: should affect his conversation about his contract at all, Like 554 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: have you seen what this guy the play is at, 555 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: this guy that has been making I mean you. And 556 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: by the way, you've got the right quarterback, you've got 557 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: the right receiver's room. Him and CD seem to get 558 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: along really well. And you've got the right coach that 559 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: is like Schottenheimer. I would trust, I would trust to 560 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: handle whatever comes up, honestly. 561 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: And this is a perfect matchup too, because that's the 562 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: Vikings weakness too, is that second cornerback spot whoever is 563 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: out there, like they got Byron Murphy. But they can 564 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: get picked on a little bit on the outside. They're 565 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: not a big group. It's Brian Flores like like some 566 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: like small and feisty. Before we take a break, though, 567 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: I did want to, you know, close the circle here 568 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: on George Pickens. 569 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: Who's who likes to wear the sisty. 570 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: You know. 571 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: That the face covering popular and so popular. Brian Schottenheimer's 572 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: been doing it and you might have seen that in 573 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks this week where Dak actually gave Schottenheimer a 574 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: scheisty and the Schottenheimer spoke about it actually to the 575 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: media this week. 576 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't really like it. I couldn't breathe now. 577 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 6: I don't know why those guys like it so much, 578 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: but I thought, hey, this is the cool thing going on. 579 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: Let me try. 580 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 6: It's kind of like the six seventh thing a few 581 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 6: weeks ago. I'm a hip guy, but yeah, I didn't. 582 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 6: I didn't really like it. It didn't didn't stay on 583 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 6: very long. 584 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: America's Cool Dad, Brian Schottenheim. 585 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: I'm like regular moms. I'm a cool mom. 586 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: I mis named him earlier when we were coming into 587 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: the studio and I called him Jason Garrett, and it 588 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: made me think he kind of is like just a 589 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: cooler Jason Garrett. 590 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: But there, you know, he's like an evolved cooler dad. 591 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: Jason Garrett. 592 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: David du Cupney. 593 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: I think he's better. 594 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: Though. 595 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll be back on the 596 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: other side with the game I really. 597 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Want to talk about. 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The Indianapolis Colts, Yes, and forty 618 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: four year old Philip Rivers at the Seattle Seahawks, who 619 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: are favored by fourteen points the over unders forty two 620 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: and a half. Andrew Cattle on the best, Charles Davis 621 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: and Jason mccordy, they're on the call where. 622 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe Philip Rivers, maybe Tyler Warren, maybe. 623 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: Somebody's taking snaps for the Indianapolis Colts against the best 624 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: defense in the NFL. 625 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 5: Jordan, how does it go? 626 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like we just have to start 627 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 4: out right away listening to Philip Rivers. To be honest, 628 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: there's only one way to start out this Philip Rivers game, 629 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: and that is by listening to Philip Rivers first comments 630 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: to the Indianapolis media. 631 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 8: I've tried to make this as simple as I can. 632 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 8: I'll try to get emotional. Actually you asking that as 633 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 8: simple as as can be as a coach that I 634 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 8: love and an organization that I really enjoyed being with. 635 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: You know, mister Ersay believing in me in that year 636 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 8: in twenty twenty when it didn't go so good in 637 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, and shoot, the teammates that I was able 638 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: to we're able to play with she fourteen of them. 639 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 8: We're still here. Training rooms are saying. Pr guys are 640 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 8: the saying rooms are saying, and. 641 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 5: They wanted me. 642 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: I'm all the way freaking in, you know me, Ernest comments, 643 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm in. 644 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: He is obviously overwhelmed. Like, we'll see what the emotions 645 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: are like if Byron Murphy is like cracking him in 646 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: the back. You know, in the first quarter of the game, 647 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: we actually don't know if Philip Rivers is even playing. 648 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming this on some level and I shouldn't. We 649 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: don't know if Riley Leonard is available. We do know 650 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: that Brett Rippon was signed to the active roster on Wednesday, 651 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: but they would need two active quarterbacks. Philip Rivers for 652 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: now is on the practice squad. One of my favorite 653 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: lines was in the ESPN story by Stephen Holder, who 654 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: does a good job covering the team, and he said, 655 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: according to sources, Rivers' workout was impressive. He threw the 656 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: ball well, but in he needs to improve his conditioning. 657 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: According to source, how that impacts his ability to play 658 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: this week is unclear. Like, yeah, but he knows the offense. 659 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: He was running it as a high school coach for 660 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: his kid. It was Shane Steiken's offense, Patrick. 661 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 5: And so there's a couple of ways to look at that. Yeah, Like, man, like. 662 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: This offense is these high schoolers are getting at it, 663 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: or the colts are running a high school offense. 664 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think they probably said it was a slimmer. 665 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: I think they simplified that. I mean, it's been working 666 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: for both. They've been both. You know, this is one 667 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of the high scoring offenses in the league. You can 668 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: say what you want. Patrick no working. 669 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: And I love looking back at this twenty twenty video 670 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: that we've shown a couple times on Fantasy Clave, like 671 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: Nahim Hines, t Y Hilton, I think Trey Burton gets 672 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: a reception coming up here next. If you're watching us 673 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: on YouTube, where I'm glad he's back. You hear the 674 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: way the Chuck Amato got him at NC State when 675 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: the Titan Tigers missed out on this quarterback that they 676 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: didn't want to play quarterback. The emotion there. He clearly 677 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: loves the game, maybe a little too much. Hopefully phil 678 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: uh stays healthy. 679 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: He even said he was like he was like happy 680 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: to have a real press conference and that it wasn't 681 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: in a zoom. 682 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: That's how he kicked it all off. He he just loves. 683 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: Ball and I like the people are like other and 684 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: he's given up five years that he's gonna have to 685 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: wait five more years of Hall of Fame aled. 686 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: But you think Philip Rivers cares. 687 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: About He's like, I just love ball, man. He just 688 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: he wants to be out there so bad. I love 689 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: this game and all of this we couldn't have invented 690 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: a mad lib such as this, right, and this really 691 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: will be a game for everybody. It will be a 692 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: game for the emotional poets of the world who are 693 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: going in and watching Philip Rivers. And it's basically all 694 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: heart and desperation to save the Indianapolis Colt season going 695 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: up against the one of the most well built, complete, aggressive, incredible, 696 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: complete football teams in the NFL that we've seen in 697 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: a while, in the Seattle Seahawks. And so it's like 698 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: when an audacious force meets an immovable object, right, and 699 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: I cannot. 700 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: Wait for them. I'm gonna be real, I'd rather be 701 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: against the Titans. I know. 702 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: I want to ease him in. 703 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: Just Gill be like a Titans Saints. 704 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: We'll throw the Jaguars in for some fun maybe and 705 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: then build up to the Seahawks at the end. 706 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: But with Philip Rivers, he probably wouldn't want it any 707 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: other way. Greg that he might change his tune again 708 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: when he'd. 709 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: Want like a game against the Giants on Monday night 710 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: where Eli is calling the game and he can make 711 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: his a Hall of Fame came because like, waiting five 712 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: years to give one speech is one thing. But we 713 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna see him for the next three weeks. We'll 714 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: get a whole lot of Philips chance to remember. 715 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the problem is, yeah, I know, I got 716 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: eleven years until I'm forty four. I don't even want 717 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: to know what my body's gonna feel like. 718 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Then I follow theo ash On on Twitter, and he 719 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: pointed out just the ages of some notable NFL players 720 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: that are forty four, like former ones like Wes Welker 721 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: is forty four years old. He also also has pointed 722 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: out this week Todd Gurley is thirty one years old. 723 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: If you're just you're just. 724 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: Thinking of the comparison, I hate it. I hate that 725 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: it's dismatch up because the rest of the cults are 726 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: not playing well right now. 727 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: It should be pointed out. 728 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: You know how many quarterback hits in Saxo Combuying they 729 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: had last week? 730 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: Zero? 731 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: You know how much like Jonathan Taylor has done the 732 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, not a lot for Jonathan Taylor. 733 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: Like the offensive line in general has given up a 734 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of pressure up the middle lately. The last two 735 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: weeks on offense, actually really on the line, play for 736 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: both sides has been a little concerning, and now you've 737 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: got to play a team in Seattle that's healthier than 738 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: they've been all season. They got Julian Love back last 739 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: week at safety. They got John Reid back last week 740 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: to add to that defensive line mix. 741 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: It's just it's a tough one. 742 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: And shout out to defensive Rookie of the Year candidate 743 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: nick im and Worry because first of all, he doesn't 744 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 4: come off the field, and when you have to, what 745 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 4: quite obviously will be lean on a lot of scheme 746 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: and a lot of you know, attempting to force mismatches 747 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 4: for Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers, at forty four years old 748 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: off of the high school football field sideline does not 749 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 4: have to come in and play as much hero ball 750 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: in this first one out. Nicki min Worri is a 751 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: personnel neutralizer. And I remember sitting back here a year ago, Greg, 752 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: we were talking with Nate Tice about what the future 753 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: of some of these defenses will look like and the 754 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: future of what defense is having another advantage again against 755 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: offenses will look like. And nick Emon Warre is that player. 756 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: And all of this to say, Nicki and Worry is 757 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 4: also twenty one years old, which makes him over one 758 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: nickim and worriy younger than the forty four year old 759 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 4: Philip Rivers, and in fact, Nicki min Worri was born 760 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 4: on February seventh, two thousand and four, just a few 761 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 4: weeks before Philip Rivers was drafted by the New York 762 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 4: Giants and then traded to San Diego for Eli Manning. 763 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 4: It makes me feel a certain and. 764 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: I think, multiple years after Philip Rivers is first born, 765 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: came into this world because he was a father when 766 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: he got dressed. 767 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: Yes, and he will if he plays, he will be 768 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: a grandfather that is playing in another River's number, which 769 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: is of course seventeen, which was Daniel Jones's number, which 770 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers is now going to war if he gets 771 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 3: into this game. It's also been seventeen years since he 772 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: played in the AC Championship game on a torn acl 773 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: His forty four is not your forty four if you're 774 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: like a on the pickleball circuit or in Greg's if 775 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: you're playing a real sport like tennis. Hey, now his 776 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: forty four is a little bit different because he's getting 777 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: smashed by people. So good luck to Philip Rivers and 778 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis. 779 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: I love that This next game is announced by Drew Brees, 780 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: the man that he replaced yep in New Orleans, and 781 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Eric asks, what's the first play you want to see 782 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: the Colts run on Sunday? 783 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: Like a classic version. I mean, it's just simple. 784 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: It's a straight drop back and it's him with that 785 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: intermedia throw over the middle that like Aaron Rodgers isn't 786 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: making that throw ever, but that's that is the air, 787 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: the typical Philip Rivers timing throw. It's probably to Michael 788 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: Pittman for about eighteen yards and. 789 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 3: We can basically guarantee that Rivers will have a snap 790 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: with the Colts down six in the fourth quarter with. 791 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: Just cover the fourteen. I'm taking that as a as 792 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: a victory. 793 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 4: Can you guys imagine being Brett Rippan Over the years, 794 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: and some of these teams have completely altered their franchise, 795 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: their franchises at the looming thread of Brett Rippon and 796 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: I love that guy. He's very nice. 797 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: But can you imagine he's probably self aware enough to 798 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: be excited he's getting an active roster check this week. 799 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what he gets for the throttling of 800 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: Troy University back when he was playing for the Bronc Wars. 801 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: The Tennessee Titans, fresh off of lighting up the Browns 802 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: defense in Week fourteen, going on the road at the 803 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine Ers. It is the aforementioned Drew 804 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: Brees and Adaman on a call. The Niners are favored 805 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 3: by twelve and a half points. Clearly, Greg, the Titans 806 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: didn't move the needle so that much last week. Do 807 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: you feel that that number is a bit too much? 808 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: No, because I think the forty nine ers offense coming 809 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: off a week off weirdly healthier right now than they 810 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: have been all season. 811 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: Not just because they had the buy. 812 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: They were actually healthier in that week before they got 813 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: to buy against Cleveland on both sides of the ball. 814 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Then they really had been all year. And you're not 815 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: getting Fred Warner and Nick Bosa back, but this defense 816 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: is playing with a lot of aggression. You're getting production 817 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland ferreal, getting production out of Ken White. 818 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: And it's not about that number. Is not about the defense. 819 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: It's about the offense ready to turn into a wagon 820 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: against a team that's not complete. And I thought Purdy 821 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: played great in that Browns game. That one really rewarded 822 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: a rewatch because the numbers don't pop out, and he 823 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: had five or six just classic sort of very difficult, 824 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: pretty anticipation throws throughout that game, made a couple great plays, 825 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of great decisions where he just avoided 826 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: making the big mistake, and it just made me feel 827 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: better about what's to come. And I think what's to 828 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: come here is you know, a top eight offense the 829 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: rest of the way. 830 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: So I think they'll put it on the Titan. 831 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the game we actually wish we could 832 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: give to Philip Rivers to onboard up because this is 833 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: exactly the type of game, And I don't want to 834 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: demean that. The Titans, they just they are going to 835 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 4: go through a massive organizational change here in the next 836 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 4: couple of months, and so it is what it is 837 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 4: at this point. But the forty nine ers basically have 838 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: to take this game and use it as the wind 839 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 4: up for the rest of their sprint and their season. 840 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: The remaining schedule gets really really fun for us. They 841 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 4: get the Colts, we hope with an attact Philip Rivers 842 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football. They get the Bears with NFC stakes 843 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 4: that will be significant by that point, and then they 844 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 4: get the Seahawks to close the season, and that will 845 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 4: probably have massive playoff implications due to the fact that 846 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 4: the Seahawks lost to the forty nine ers early in 847 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 4: the year, and Seattle also has the Rams one more 848 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 4: time and already lost to the Ram once. So this 849 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: is going to be an absolute like launching, or should be. 850 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 4: They should use it as this and attack as such 851 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 4: a launch point to really barrel headfirst into the rest 852 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 4: of their schedule. 853 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: People sleep and I think on the forty nine ers 854 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: as a real deal team. If they were in the AFC, 855 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: I would consider them a Super Bowl contender. 856 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: I don't quite in the NFC. Do you think that's too. 857 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: What AFC division are they forty nine ers going in? 858 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 3: I just, I just I want to play this hypothetical 859 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: all the way out. So let's trade. Let's trade like 860 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 3: the Chargers for the forty nine ers. 861 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: Sure, that's a good one. 862 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're actually right around like if you kind of 863 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: look where they are, for instance, like Dvoa, they're like 864 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: ahead of the Chargers, the Patriots, like the Bucks, right 865 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: next to the Eagles. Like that all sounds about right 866 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: to me. I think that's where they're at. The problem 867 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: is Yeah, they're with the rams Seahawks Packers. I think 868 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to get through that tournament, so 869 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm putting them. Sure, put them in the AFC West 870 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: as a as a wildcard. I think they could win 871 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: that tournament. 872 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they get an opportunity for a layup, you know, 873 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 3: before before that tournament, you know, in the stretch run 874 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: where if you just watched the one game, if you 875 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 3: just watched the one game, you saw cam Ward and 876 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: Tony Pollard and this Titans offense, like you start to 877 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: believe that they only they limit Myles Garrett to one sack, 878 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if the offensive, you know, if the 879 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: game plan was built around that and it led to 880 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: the best offensive output for the Tennessee Titans, who not 881 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 3: just have the chance to win the first two game 882 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 3: win streak this season, This will be the first two 883 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 3: game win streak for the Titans since twenty twenty two, 884 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 3: hotly twenty two. So Cam, it's it's not you. This 885 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 3: is franchise related. That's how they were in the position to. 886 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 5: Draft you in danger. 887 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 3: But hey, the pass rush of the forty nine ers 888 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: is not even the Browns. 889 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: That's almost as impressive or in the wrong way as 890 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: the Lions. I think haven't lost how many two straight 891 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: in three years? Something like that? That is horrifying, What 892 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: a what a sad franchise. Before we move from this game, 893 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: I did want to just mention the news because we 894 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: never hit it on the show, the reports that Brandon 895 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: ayuk Are is not expected to play this season and 896 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's just going to be on the 897 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: trade block this off season. That the relationship, There's been 898 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot of reporting out there locally athletic everything is 899 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: maybe beyond repair and weird statements publicly, and just that 900 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: would wrap up one of the strangest contract negotiation extension 901 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: situations of all time. That they didn't like each other. 902 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: We've been over it before like that. There was a 903 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: lot of consternation. They gave him the contract, then he 904 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: gets hurt and never ends up playing, and they never 905 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: made that trade. So he'll be an interesting person to 906 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: track this off season because I think there'll be plenty 907 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 1: of trade interesting. 908 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: DJ Moore to the. 909 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers, it's an interesting grade, Bopham. 910 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: How different, how different things could have been if data 911 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: blocked it correctly. In the final drive, of the Super 912 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: Bowl and got Brandon Ayuku was wide open. They maybe 913 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: offered him a deal or maybe an invite to Christian 914 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 3: McCaffrey's wedding. 915 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: We're just taking that offer from the Steelers when they thought. 916 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 4: They were going to maybe Kyle Shanahan just is surfing 917 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 4: that morning and doesn't march into John Lynch's office and say, 918 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: we actually have to get this done even though you 919 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 4: guys want to trade. 920 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 5: Him so many what ifs. 921 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 4: The waves were probably good that day, Kyle. 922 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: What ifs for fans of a team in purple in 923 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: the AFC, Because on Monday Night football, the Miami Dolphins 924 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: are on the road at the Pittsburgh Steelers, the high flying, 925 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: high octane Steelers, where Aaron Rodgers is running all over 926 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 3: folks and throwing deep passes for the first time in 927 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 3: several weeks. The Steelers favored by three in this one. 928 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: The over under is forty two and a half. It 929 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: is Monday night, so it is Joe and Troy on 930 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 3: the call. The path is a little more constricted, Jordan. 931 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 3: But do the Dolphins have a chance to win this game? 932 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: Specifically on Monday Night? 933 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: I think Miami wins this game, and you guys know me, 934 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 4: I hate making predictions. It makes my skin crawl, But 935 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 4: I do think that they win this game. This run 936 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 4: game is all the way back and devonni Chan is 937 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 4: going to play according to Mike McDaniel, and between offensive 938 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 4: line coach Butch Berry and tight ends coach John Embry, 939 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: who is a legend. If you know, you know, they 940 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 4: have really got that entire collective between offensive linemen, tight 941 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 4: ends and running backs cooking in a way. That is 942 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 4: what we had hoped. This is what we were promised 943 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: with Mike McDaniel when he first came into the league. 944 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 4: It is their blocking combinations. It is some of the 945 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 4: personnel decisions that they've made, Aaron Burer at center, really 946 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 4: making the entire engine run up front and doing so 947 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 4: without regard for human life on the other side, and 948 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 4: this the combination at tight end of Darren Waller and 949 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: Greg Doltchit it works so well because both of these 950 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: guys can do so many different things, and Mike McDaniel 951 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 4: is not just using them in the intermediate. He's using 952 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 4: them on a bunch of different types of leverage blocking. 953 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 4: He's using them to create explosive plays, whether for those 954 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: players or for other players, and that is still where 955 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 4: the Steelers, as you know, as well as they can 956 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 4: play when their defense plays well, they have still been 957 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 4: quite explosive to the explosive play, quite susceptible to the 958 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 4: explosive play, particularly particularly against a team that uses a 959 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 4: lot of interesting blocking structure and pre snap Mister. 960 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: I think there, don't I really said that cleanly. Yeah, 961 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: it was great. 962 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: I didn't spit, so it was as effective as the 963 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: Steelers defense against the explosive place. 964 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: Wow. 965 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: No, I think their second to last. You said you 966 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: liked it, you know when the inner mask comes out. 967 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: I think they're second worst than the league, behind the Raiders, 968 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: and they are bad. The matchup is bad for the Steelers, 969 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: and he's putting out just like I don't even know 970 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: what's going on on these running plays, but a lot's 971 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: going on. He's getting fancy with it. I don't trust them. 972 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't trust the Steelers either, especially in a game 973 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: like they're quote unquote supposed to win as a slight favorite. 974 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: But they've won four straight games in maybe the worst 975 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: month of to a tongue of ILO's career. It's kind 976 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: of it's kind of amazing to me how poorly to 977 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa is playing overall, and that's just 978 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: expected and he's actually not getting any grief for it. 979 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: He's been a good quarterback since Mike McDaniel got there 980 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: in terms of when he's on the field and efficient, obviously, 981 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: like there's some weaknesses to his game and they're not 982 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: that now. And they've had two really great games out 983 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: of the division. I mean in the division. They also 984 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: had two games where it came down to the last 985 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: play against like the Saints and the Commanders. So don't 986 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't trust them overall, but they're they're getting closer 987 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: to being like a relatively complete average team because the 988 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: defense is solid, the running game is legit good. If 989 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: TUA starts playing better, Patrick, I don't think they can 990 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: win out. There's a reason they have a less than 991 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: one percent chance to make the playoffs, and the Chiefs 992 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: actually have like a twelve to fifteen with the exact 993 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: same record. The schedule doesn't help and the team has 994 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: its problems. But if TUA could just play better, they 995 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: are they are quite dangerous. 996 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, significantly. 997 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 3: I would say in this game, if you get a 998 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: good game, you tell me you get a quality to 999 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: a low a game like one of his best of 1000 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. I'm with Jordan, I've got the Miami 1001 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 3: Dolphins my inherent biases against you know, the Steelers in 1002 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 3: this situation, notwithstanding just because of the way that they've 1003 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: had improvement in the places that they've needed to and 1004 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 3: I understand the schedule is a big part of the 1005 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. But we talked about Jonas Savina 1006 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: right at guard, the rookie guard and having all those difficulties. 1007 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 3: His improvement has coincided with the improvement in the run 1008 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 3: game and the way that Mike McDaniel is able to 1009 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 3: reshape the line of scrimmage kind of choose where the 1010 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage is ultimately going to be on the 1011 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 3: field of any given play, where Devon a Chan gets 1012 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 3: a chance to have these like on field putt returns 1013 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: going like taking advantage of defenses that can be a 1014 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 3: little aggressive. And that's this Pittsburgh Steelers group where they 1015 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 3: were releasing guys to grass last week looking like they 1016 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 3: did at the start of the season. 1017 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 5: In the one game Rogers blip. That's a one game 1018 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 5: Rogers blip. 1019 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: Maybe that's against I mean, I would tend to period, 1020 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: I would know. 1021 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 5: Pass rush whatsoever in that game against the Steelers. 1022 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it was about like the lack 1023 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: of pass rush or not. He just was on one. 1024 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: Remind me a little bit like I've heard like Serena 1025 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: Williams talk about this or Federal like when you're an 1026 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: all time great and you hit your forties or whatever, 1027 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: like sometimes you do just have it for a day, 1028 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: but you just don't. Like sometimes you show up and 1029 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: it's just not there for you. 1030 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 2: And he had it. 1031 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: He he was outstanding in that game. If he plays 1032 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: like that, they were not high percentage throws, but he 1033 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: was on one, then their upside is high. 1034 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: I tend to agree that it's a one game blip, 1035 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: but got it. 1036 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm more curious to watch them play offensive 1037 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: football this week after that performance by him than I 1038 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: was before. 1039 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: That's for sure. Maybe he can back it up. 1040 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 5: Okay's excited. 1041 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm not excited. 1042 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 5: Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers. 1043 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm not a. 1044 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 5: Monday night football. 1045 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 4: Smith wishes he was moving gaps around like this run 1046 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 4: game in Miami's doing. Did you guys see the play 1047 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 4: where there were three skill plays, including tight ends lined 1048 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 4: up in a stack next to the quarterback with the 1049 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 4: running back on the other side, and then there was 1050 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: a motion. So not only with the motion he's changing 1051 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 4: the gap. I love what you said about reshaping the 1052 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 4: line of sacreement to Patrick, because not only does the 1053 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 4: motion change the gap that the running back is supposed 1054 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 4: to run through to a different one for the defense, 1055 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 4: but then you don't know what it's actually going to 1056 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 4: be because all three of those players are splitting off 1057 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 4: in different directions and one of them is getting the ball, 1058 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 4: and I just I squealed, I made noises. 1059 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 5: Loves ball. 1060 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: Loves ball back to being an offensive genius when it works, 1061 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 3: but when it doesn't. 1062 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 5: For him, it can get a little bit. I always 1063 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 5: believe talk about. 1064 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: Up and down changes, there's the quantum superposition that is 1065 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. They can be great, they cannot be 1066 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 3: one of those teams they have not been great against. 1067 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 3: Greg is the New Orleans Saints. They are two and 1068 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 3: a half point favorites on the road against the quarterback 1069 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 3: rushing machine like it was Cameron Jarrelle Newton aka Tyler 1070 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: Schuck against the Bucks on some over under is forty 1071 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: and a half. Jason Bennetti and RG three on the 1072 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 3: call in this one, which version of the Panthers do? 1073 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: We get grit that's new, We get the version that 1074 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: should win a game. 1075 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 2: You can't. 1076 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: You can't get swept by the Saints. That's just unserious 1077 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: and still be in the playoff mix because they would 1078 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: be even whether whether. 1079 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 2: They win this game or not. 1080 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: This is kind of where it gets real that, Okay, 1081 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: you're hitting the stretch run, You're hitting games that you 1082 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: have to win, that you are expected to win against 1083 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: the Saints because yeah, getting swept by them would be 1084 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: a little bit embarrassing. 1085 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 4: After this game, and they can't look ahead of this 1086 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 4: game obviously, but after this game, they've got Bucks, Seahawks, Bucks, Yeah, 1087 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 4: and all of them will have playoff implications. So you 1088 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 4: better put your best foot forward and your best tape 1089 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 4: out in this game regardless. 1090 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: Right, if you lose this game, they might not all 1091 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: have a playoff implications. You might be done by week eighteen. 1092 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 5: I'll put you. 1093 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 3: Guys on a theory because folks have wondered, is this 1094 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 3: about these Carolina Panthers? I think, what what if it's 1095 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 3: game plan related? What if when there's this opponent that 1096 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 3: doesn't see a lot of Carolina Panthers Dave Canalis going 1097 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 3: in uh to the tape room looking at these specific 1098 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 3: aspects where you can attack defenses on specific plays. There's 1099 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,439 Speaker 3: the micd up clip of Rico Dowdle knowing exactly where 1100 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 3: the rush and the defenders in the zone were gonna 1101 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 3: be and taking a screen to the house where they 1102 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,439 Speaker 3: go up against the Saints team. 1103 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 5: There's there's not gonna be a surprises. 1104 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 3: Both franchises intimately aware of others personnel. 1105 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 5: I just I just thought maybe sometimes David. 1106 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 4: Projected a project. 1107 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 5: Go on, like maybe it's not all player related. 1108 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 3: Maybe this is the head coach and play caller sometimes 1109 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 3: need a little bit of a chain. 1110 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: I do think they just have like a slimmer path 1111 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: to the way they win. It's like it's a lot 1112 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: of running on downs where you don't expect them to run, 1113 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 1: which which is I think, great, you got to pull 1114 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: that off, like you got to hit your third and 1115 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: four runs. I'm always surprised by them running in those 1116 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: situations and yeah it didn't work. And if you're only 1117 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: counting on Bryce lately to just hit these big plays, 1118 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: but you're only throwing the ball twenty to twenty five 1119 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: plays like those plays changed the game, and he hits 1120 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: two long fourth downs on the last one. Yeah, I'm curious. 1121 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: It is a good test for Canals's adjustments. I mean, 1122 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: you lose by ten points to Tyler Schuck a couple 1123 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and you're playing a defense that I 1124 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: know you Jordan have noticed statistically is now, you know, 1125 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: solidly in the middle of the NFL, maybe even like 1126 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: a little better than the middle of the NFL when 1127 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: you add up all the numbers. And I went to 1128 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: check because I was like, okay, is this just like 1129 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: a schedule thing. Actually, no, they've played a very difficult 1130 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: schedule of offenses. If anything, it's more impressive that they're 1131 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: a little better than average in general. So the staly 1132 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: Sons much delayed. It's happening. 1133 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've been noticing this. I know our 1134 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 4: friends over at the Saints blow party have also been 1135 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 4: noticing this improvement. Yeah, they're in terms, they're right at 1136 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 4: the middle, essentially a little bit higher than the middle, 1137 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 4: in terms of UH points per game, in terms of 1138 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 4: yards per game, in terms of opponent third down conversion rate. 1139 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 4: I know we all saw the graphic on the broadcast, Right, 1140 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 4: I think that there's something there. And when you have 1141 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 4: that improvement and you're lifting the floor of one side 1142 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 4: of the football, right, and then you're also getting this 1143 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 4: like glimmer of hope with the quarterback play, this team 1144 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 4: can be dangerous. And that's why I love that the 1145 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 4: Panthers get their bye week when they did, Right, I 1146 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 4: love that because this is when we're gonna really see. Okay, 1147 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 4: Dave Knalis, like, what are your bye week adjustments? When 1148 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 4: you know the stakes you're in the you're in the race, man, 1149 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 4: Like you know the stakes are so high, Like it's 1150 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 4: time to show your work. And Bryce Young, if he 1151 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 4: could play even even a little less than how well 1152 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 4: he played in that Rams game, they will be fine. 1153 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 1: And just for some context, they lost to the Saints. 1154 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 1: It was longer ago than I remembered. It was November ninth, 1155 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: It was Week ten. The Saints doubled them up in 1156 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: total yardage plus it was three eighty eight to one 1157 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: seventy five. It was watching it as big of a 1158 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: blowout as a seventeen to seven game can be. The 1159 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: Saints offense obviously has its limitations, like they weren't going 1160 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: to put on a lot of points, but they controlled 1161 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: that game. 1162 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 2: So revenge time show us something. 1163 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 3: And that was in Charlotte as well, and I'm remounted 1164 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 3: of the early I think it was week one last year, 1165 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: before the benching, before the Dalton conversation and all that, 1166 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 3: where Bryce and the offense looked miserable, miserable. 1167 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 5: In New Orleans in the super Dome, it's revenge against 1168 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 5: that as well. 1169 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: And vibes revenge game, and the vibes probably will be 1170 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: bad in New Orleans. I have an eye on how 1171 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: many people are going to be in the crowd for 1172 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: these final few Saints games. They have created, through terrible management, 1173 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: apathy among one of the best fan bases in the 1174 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: entire NFL. Pelicans fan base. It's like another level. They're 1175 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 1: literally allowing people to go free to games and it's 1176 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: half empty. But I think I think the Benson family 1177 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: might notice that, and so these games are big, I 1178 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: believe because you get blown out at home a couple 1179 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: of times with empty fans like that, that catches the 1180 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: attention empty fans. 1181 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 4: I like how you said that, because you meant empty seats, 1182 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,479 Speaker 4: but empty fans is probably how they're feeling. 1183 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's politic. 1184 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: We'll try to add a little poetry to all the 1185 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: early games that's going to be coming up in your feed. 1186 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: We flipped it around, so stay tuned right here. Will 1187 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: be back for the rest of the preview.