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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show. In a word dominant

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Speaker 1: several more words, the Cardinals did exactly what they were

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. This is fun, isn't it? Seven games,

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Speaker 1: seven wins. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode forty five, and

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Speaker 1: it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig

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Speaker 1: Grigolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: Hopkins one hand to catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. So before we go

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Speaker 1: back to what happened on Sunday, we need to revisit

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Speaker 1: what happened on Friday, m James, specifically what you said.

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Speaker 1: You're closing remarks on that edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. You said,

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Speaker 1: not paraphrasing here, take care of business, no excuses, and

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Speaker 1: after a little bit of a clunky start from the

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Speaker 1: second quarter on, that's exactly what the Cardinals did. They

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Speaker 1: took care of business. In Week seven, they hammered dominated

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans thirty one to five. And Craig, when

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Speaker 1: I look at it, I mean I give Kyla Murray

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit. You know, he said they came

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Speaker 1: to play, they may not have the talent, and you

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Speaker 1: know those guys were willing to get a fifteen yard

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Speaker 1: penalty just to knock him down. I'm not saying they

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Speaker 1: Lovey Smith, that Tampa cover two. They try to keep

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Speaker 1: everything in front. But clearly, you know they were able

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Speaker 1: to get to Kyla Murray. The Cardinals had thirteen total

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Speaker 1: the second quarter one hundred and ninety three totally yard.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean again, they get paid, They got

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Speaker 1: the names in the back of their jerseys, their families

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Speaker 1: are watching them, there's a pride factor. And Malie Collins,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's bounced around and he doesn't really have

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. But it kind of like JJ Watt, you're

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Speaker 1: and I had the binoculars on at halftime, and he

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Speaker 1: a different conversation when Rodney Hudson returns, where's Max Garcia,

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Speaker 1: give them credit. They knew that if they hit him

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Speaker 1: But everyone know that, you know I can take these hits, clearly,

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Speaker 1: it's not the ideal thing, but I work out hard

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Speaker 1: in the offseason. You look at his lower torso, his legs,

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Speaker 1: was glad that, you know, they were able to put

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Speaker 1: knew talent wise, I mean, they wouldn't let Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: because let's not forget when we spoke on Friday, at

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Speaker 1: He got word early Sunday morning that he had been

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Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be a walkthrough recovery.

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Speaker 1: him is your right tackle. You know, he's on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal. I think he's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: outside interest. Curiously, if the Cardinals can make a run,

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Speaker 1: would he come back for another year or so? But

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Speaker 1: I think on paper, when he get Hudson back, I

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Speaker 1: want to know, I mean, I don't want to know.

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Speaker 1: We'll try to figure out is that right guard open

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Speaker 1: for business or meeting a guy in the roster. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to go out and get somebody else. That

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Speaker 1: was Brian Winters and he obviously decided to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I think, you know, I like to

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Speaker 1: have the same five guys, but when you have injuries,

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Speaker 1: this is what happens. And the good news for Rodney

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Speaker 1: Hudson it's not long term. The only long term we

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Speaker 1: have right now is Max Williams. And that's important because

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Speaker 1: you gotta stay healthy, you know, and part of its

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Speaker 1: being lucky, and obviously you got to keep Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: up right. He can't take those hits. It's a good

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Speaker 1: point you make. Are we making too much out of

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Speaker 1: seeing Kyle Murray get hits? And a holding call by

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones and the two or three plays over seventy

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Speaker 1: one snaps and a game big picture were small picture?

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Speaker 1: What are we concerned about the most? And one we're

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Speaker 1: concerned about Kyle Murray just getting hit period. So you know,

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Speaker 1: do you look at making a change. And again, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, it can't be this week. Rodney Hudson's going

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Speaker 1: to miss Thursday, it's his third game on IR. Is

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Speaker 1: eligible to return after this week if healthy, but also

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Speaker 1: if a Rodney Hudson is playing one, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we see as many bad snaps as

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Speaker 1: we've seen. And maybe with Rodney Hudson you shore up

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Speaker 1: the inside with Josh Jones at right guard and those

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Speaker 1: that that leaking, if you will, defenders aren't getting by

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Speaker 1: a Rodney Hudson, Justin Pugh and Josh Jones and I

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Speaker 1: had a couple of you know, followers on Twitter that

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Speaker 1: saw the same thing. They think with Rodney Hudson there,

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Speaker 1: he kind of calms the waters and maybe he can

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Speaker 1: help him with the calls. I think Max Garcias is

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Speaker 1: learning the position. He's got a lot on his plate.

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Speaker 1: They haven't had to use the oncount, which is a

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Speaker 1: good thing. They won't use this high encount at home,

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Speaker 1: so and again I do think you can hide a

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Speaker 1: guy a little bit, but I think it's a fair

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Speaker 1: The word leaka is perfect term right here, because if

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson settles everything down, he's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: captain of the ship or things are going and you're

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Speaker 1: going to rough waters and rapids. He's able to calm

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Speaker 1: things down. So just having him on the field, we'll

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Speaker 1: make Josh Jones better. And again we don't know or

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Speaker 1: we don't have an update on Justin Murray. He's been

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Speaker 1: on IR now for a while, but you do have

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Speaker 1: Max Garcia the possibility, Sean Harlowe as well, Josh Miles.

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Speaker 1: Those are the players that we know of. Danny is Adora,

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Speaker 1: who has been elevated from the practice squad the past

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So that's who's on the roster. And

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Speaker 1: I just you know, that's the thinking of Sean Coogler

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Speaker 1: and his assistant Brian Natkin. Is it do you need

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Speaker 1: to make a change or is the change, Hey, you

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Speaker 1: bring back Rodney Hudson and that settles everything else. So

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Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on as we continue here

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Speaker 1: past this week. It's not happening this week, but after

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Speaker 1: this week and the mini buy if something changes. We

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Speaker 1: know Hump's not going anywhere long, stay healthy, pew. So

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Speaker 1: you got the left side Hudson and then right guard

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Speaker 1: right now, I stug I think Josh Jonen gives him

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Speaker 1: the best chance based on the available to the other

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Speaker 1: guys and beat him. He's kind of like he started

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Speaker 1: all sixteen games last year. Yes, he had some rib injuries,

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Speaker 1: but he does a nice job, you know, obviously trying

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Speaker 1: to protect Kyler, especially when they go you know, four

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Speaker 1: and five wide, because teams are trying to come off

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Speaker 1: the edge and we know that when healthy or productive

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones and Rodney Hudson and Justin Pe you're not

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Speaker 1: seeing pressure come up in the middle. So again, I

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Speaker 1: like the four of the five. It's just again, I

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Speaker 1: think you can hide him a little bit at guard,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see when Hudson comes back. What I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is you're not going to have musical chairs. Yeah, you'll

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Speaker 1: have four guys playing in their natural positions. The less

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Speaker 1: movement the better when you're talking about an offensive line.

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Speaker 1: As we continue discussing what happened on Sunday thirty one

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Speaker 1: to five, the Cardinals beat the Houston Texans, and it

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00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: really wasn't even that close either, Bird Gang. As we

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Speaker 1: talk about it here on Cardinals Cover two presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunday Product partner of the Arizona Cardinals, we saved the

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Speaker 1: best for last. That is the defense and what they

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Speaker 1: continue to do. Now, full disclosure, it's the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: They're not very good, yet you still have to go

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Speaker 1: out and execute, and that's exactly what the defense of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals did. From the very first possession, a

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Speaker 1: three and out and then a punt, they only allowed

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Speaker 1: three points and that was a fuel goal of fifty

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Speaker 1: three yards. But this defense, MJ is on another level.

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Speaker 1: And that's a credit to the coaching staff. It's a

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Speaker 1: credit to the system being in place now for three

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Speaker 1: straight seasons. They're missing guys. Guys are coming in and

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Speaker 1: plugging and it's not like they're missing a beat. But

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Speaker 1: I can't say enough about what we're seeing, not just

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, but now you look at this defense in

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Speaker 1: totality on what they have done and the numbers that

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Speaker 1: they are putting up. Yeah, and you know, Buffalo had

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Speaker 1: to buy and the Saints play the Seahawks tonight and

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Speaker 1: they're kind of in the same boat. Obviously, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have played an extra game, so that means, you know,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo has two shutouts this year, but they would have

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Speaker 1: to limit their opponent. Cardinals only gave up what seven

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Speaker 1: seven points? Was it seventeen ten or seventeen to seven?

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Speaker 1: Only one touchdowns at the forty nine ers seventeen to ten, correct,

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Speaker 1: one touchdown. So but points allowed, third down and then

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Speaker 1: red zone. I mean, it's off the charts. And again

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Speaker 1: it's it's gradually getting there because we know that they've

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Speaker 1: been getting gashed initially in the run game, but it's

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Speaker 1: usually one or two possessions per game, not you know,

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Speaker 1: every possession. And that's what teams want to do. They

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Speaker 1: want to run the ball, keep Kyler on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: and able to lead. It just hasn't happened. So points

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Speaker 1: allowed and then the forced fumbles first eleven, third down

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Speaker 1: percentage twenty eight point seven, first fourth down percentage twenty

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Speaker 1: fifth tied for first fumble recoveries eight second. I mean these,

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Speaker 1: I mean I always said, you know, when the Vans

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Speaker 1: first got here, if they can go from thirty two

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Speaker 1: to fifteen, you know, like like the special teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, you start

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Speaker 1: looking at the Cardinals offense and defense were in the

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Speaker 1: top ten, and now you're looking at Cardinals offense and

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Speaker 1: defense are in the top five, and see you could

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Speaker 1: just see the progress like and again. When you're in

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Speaker 1: the top five in both categories, clearly you're moving to football.

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Speaker 1: You're scoring points, you're scoring touchdowns versus field goals. And

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Speaker 1: then defensively, when you only give up an X amount

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Speaker 1: of points per game, you're forcing turnovers, you're forcing teams

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Speaker 1: who go off the field on third down, and yesterday

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Speaker 1: they were two for thirteen and for two on fourth down. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this is complimentary football. The fact is you're in

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Speaker 1: the top five in both categories, are very impressive. Number

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Speaker 1: one scoring defense, number one third down percentage. And you

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Speaker 1: talk to coach Joseph at you know, what do you

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Speaker 1: look at at the end of the game, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season and at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: It's limiting the number of points. And the Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: done that and have done it very very well, especially

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Speaker 1: in the second half. MJ. They've only allowed forty second

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Speaker 1: half points this season and one fourth quarter touchdown. That's

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Speaker 1: the best stet that I've heard, and that fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: touchdown at the Rams when the game was already decided.

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Speaker 1: It was a meaningless touchdown. That's the only time the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense have allowed seven points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: So there wasn't a pick six in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: that they gave up. But it's more to the offense. No,

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Speaker 1: as far as what the defense specifically gave up. What

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Speaker 1: about the safety that's on the offense. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where that. I'm sure at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, those five points get totaled

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Speaker 1: up and you add it to the overall total. But

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Speaker 1: when you're just looking at okay, when the defense was

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Speaker 1: on the field and they only allowed the field goal

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans, but overall, you're right that five

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Speaker 1: points does count against them. Okay, I got you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's remarkable. I didn't I heard that stat during the

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Speaker 1: game and I was like, really, sins the second half

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Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers game. Wow, it's remarkable. And

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Speaker 1: again the full disclosure the Houston Texans, but season lows

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Speaker 1: in points, total yards net, rushing yards net, passing yards,

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Speaker 1: first downs, the Houston Texans had eleven possessions. I'm not

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Speaker 1: including that last one of the first half when they

592
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: went into the locker room, but eleven possessions. They only

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Speaker 1: went into Cardinals territory five times, and not once did

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Speaker 1: they get inside the thirty five yard line. So you

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Speaker 1: talk about red zone defense, well, there was never even

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for a red zone defense. Well, and then

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Speaker 1: if you look at Davis Mills average per a tent

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Speaker 1: four four, you look at the average per Russiatten two

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Speaker 1: point eight. Cardinals doubled that, both of them from Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and obviously they're rushing attack. Now, Buddha Baker went

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Speaker 1: out for a play, I'm like, hold of my breath.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes in the tent twice, I'm hold of

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Speaker 1: my breath. But what can you say just about Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons and Jordan Hickson. How about Jordan Phillips, I mean

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Speaker 1: he honestly, Craig I was down on the guy just

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Speaker 1: because you know, they need him. I said, all on

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Speaker 1: and need him. And he was the one getting the

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Speaker 1: crowd pumped up and he got he was in that

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Speaker 1: jersey ninety said, he's just huge and he's got this

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Speaker 1: long wingspan, and I'm telling you that first that first possession,

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Speaker 1: they were so so confused with the silent column everything else.

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Speaker 1: And you know, on third down you want to but

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, he's sticking his nose in the fan too.

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Speaker 1: So more than Marrier. Consider you didn't have Zach Allen

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Speaker 1: or Lawrence and Corey Peters. But you know, I gotta

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Speaker 1: give Jordan Phillips credit because he definitely had the crowd

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Speaker 1: in the game and it was throughout the entire game.

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Speaker 1: He was doing it. Usually it's golden, but no, when

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Speaker 1: they are in a time out, when they're trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what they're gonna do, He's out there just

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go, let's go. And it was a

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Speaker 1: pro Cardinal crowd. It wasn't even close. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was pro Cardinals. I did see some Texans fans d

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Speaker 1: hop JJ wat Jersey's but yeah, I mean it was

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Speaker 1: a pro Cardinals crowd and it was fantastic so that

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Speaker 1: they really helped on some of the holding penalties that

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals were able to get. And we always talk

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Speaker 1: about maybe you don't get to the quarterback, but you

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Speaker 1: get a holding penalty, you put them behind the sticks.

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Speaker 1: It's about as animated as I've ever seen Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 1: He's well, he's a very quiet guy. And we saw

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Speaker 1: something different on Sunday, and I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was his second game back, but first

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Speaker 1: game in front of the home crowd for a long time.

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Speaker 1: But it was his batted pass that set up the

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Speaker 1: third and seven in which Marcus Golden got the sack

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Speaker 1: on that opening possession. You talk about setting the tone,

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Speaker 1: and the defense sets the tone on that opening possession

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Speaker 1: with Jordan Phillips, who you know, is getting paid a

640
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: lot of money and we need to see a lot

641
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: from him. But at the same time, if he's doing

642
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: his job, if JJ Watt is doing his job, then

643
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: the other guys around them can do their job and

644
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: maybe make the plays as we've seen from Marcus Golden

645
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: that look it. I don't know how JJ Watt graded

646
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: out or anything like that. It wasn't a spectacular performance

647
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: he did have. I don't know how he didn't get

648
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: Mills down on one of those plays. He basically I

649
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: had him in the grasp and Mills did a good

650
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: job of getting rid of the football, but not I

651
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: popping stats from J. J. Watt, But is he doing

652
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: his job? And he asked coach Joseph he is doing

653
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: his job so the guy next to him or the

654
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: guy behind him can make the tackle, finish off the

655
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: play and bottom line is to get the offense off

656
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, And according to people that tweeted me

657
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: there in the show, I guess Danny a Mendola was

658
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: John And then I didn't like the Byron Murphy taunting penalty.

659
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's just again, it's the Texans. He cannot

660
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: do that on Thursday and he knows and it's such

661
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: a gray area. Some people think it's a joke. I

662
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: guess it goes back to something that happened during pregame

663
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: warm US because Isaiah Simmons discussed it with Paul Calvisi

664
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: on postgame that a Mendola was warming up on the

665
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals side of the field and that's a that's just

666
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: a no no. So I guess it stemmed from that

667
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of talking. But to your point,

668
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, the play was well over and Byron Murphy

669
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: made a b line towards a Mendola. It wasn't much,

670
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: but that is going to draw a penalty every single time,

671
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: and fortunately it didn't hurt the Cardinals that got the

672
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: strip sack a couple of plays later. But little things

673
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: like that to extend to drive it was you're getting

674
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: off the field. You didn't need that to happen. Yeah,

675
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: and again we saw Drake er Patrick do there. I'm

676
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: sure he felt, you know, awful about they got to win.

677
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: But when you're going against better teams and you're not

678
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a thirty one to five lead, it can

679
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: come back to Hunt, especially on third down. You know,

680
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get him a new set

681
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: of downs that changes his momentum. They feel like they

682
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: get a little confidence they could take caught a break

683
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: on a Taunt team, which you know post whistle. Again,

684
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, Murse had a great year. You know.

685
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, it's such a competitive, you know, football

686
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: game and you want to one up a guy. But

687
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: easier for me to say move on. But I don't

688
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: think we'll see that again from Murphy in the heat

689
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: of the moment. Yeah, it happens, and it from from

690
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: us as we watch your fans from the stands, it's like,

691
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: you can't let that happen. Yeah, but put yourself in

692
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: those shoes. I get it. But to your point, it's

693
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: lucky that it didn't cost the Cardinals very well could

694
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: have because it was third and twelve. You're off the

695
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: field and all of a sudden, the drive keeps going. Yeah, exactly.

696
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: And you know, who knows if Ammondola said something based

697
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: on what happened in the pregame when he was running

698
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: some of his routes, you know, so we don't know.

699
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: And they're not robots, they're human, and we all make

700
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: mistakes every day, and you hope you don't make the

701
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: same mistake over and over once again. There was no

702
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, and you brought it up. No Corey Peters

703
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: and Zach Allen. I believe both Alan and Peters might

704
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: be able to be available this week. We'll see. Chandler

705
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Jones is trending in the direction of being available on Thursday.

706
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: He was back in the building on Friday and they

707
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: made the decision to hold him out. Yet, what we've

708
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 1: seen without Chandler Jones on the field for these couple

709
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: of games is what Marcus Golden has done, and not

710
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: so quietly, at least without fifty five on the football field,

711
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: but for the second straight game, two sacks, one force fumble.

712
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: He leads the team with six sacks and he leads

713
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: the league in forced fumbles with four. But Marcus Golden

714
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: and remember, they've got him this year and they've got

715
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: him next year. He is becoming one of those unsung heroes,

716
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: if you will, not a household name with respects to it,

717
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, Chandler Jones, Buddha Baker. Yet Marcus Golden has

718
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: really stepped up. And not that he needed to. He

719
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: always plays like that, but he's finishing off plays that

720
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: most weeks. It's Chandler Jones doing that. He's a fan favorite,

721
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: you know how I feel. He's a blue with the defense.

722
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: And the fact is, you know what happened when they

723
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: made that trade. Chandler Jones went down. Did Steve Waite Nope,

724
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: gave him a six round pick. He got him back here,

725
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: which they never mind to lose him. He didn't want

726
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: to go, but you know he obviously thought, you know,

727
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: maybe got to go somewhere else to come back to Arizona.

728
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Was a six round pick. But Chandler goes Chandler Jones

729
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: goes down in Week five, all of a sudden, they

730
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: make the trade. Max William goes down, they make the trade,

731
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: So you're always trying to stay ahead of it. Sometimes

732
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: you can't fill those positions based on availability, and I

733
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: mentioned this numerous times. I am thrilled the Cardinals are

734
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: not waiting for the trade deadline because some teams, you know,

735
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: we're still in it when buyers are sellers, and it's

736
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: probably more in baseball, it's more of the more complicated

737
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: draft picks. Compensation salary is a guy coming off an injury,

738
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit more. You got to go

739
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: through a filter. But the fact that they didn't wait,

740
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: just like they got Marcus Golden last year, says a

741
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: lot about where they think their team is when you

742
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: look at the schedule and where they want to be

743
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: in December and January. Golden in the last two games

744
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: eight tackles, four sacks, five quarterback hits, two tackles for loss,

745
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: two force fumbles, one fumble recovery. He had two sacks

746
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: three quarterback hits on Sunday. And I don't know if

747
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: that's enough to warrant NFC Defensive Player of the Week honors,

748
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: but someone that I certainly would hope would deserve consideration

749
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: based off what he did. And again full disclosure, Yes

750
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: it's the Houston Texans, but you still have to go

751
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: out and execute, and Marcus Golden has done that and

752
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: he's benefiting from a JJ Watt inside and a lucky

753
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: foe to inside and a Michael Dogbe inside. As far

754
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: as opening up those rush lanes outside the tackle, you

755
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: don't need to apologize. He did it. He did it

756
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: the previous week. That's true. Yeah, yeah, I mean we

757
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: don't have to couches their NFL team. I mean, it's

758
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: not our fault that the you know, the quarterback obviously

759
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: had off the field issues. I mean, he did it

760
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: against NFL players. They get paid, so we've seen it.

761
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, all of a sudden, he

762
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: went against the Texans and he's patted his stats. That

763
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: was the sign Reddick last year going against the Giants

764
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: and signs having a really good year. Good for him.

765
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't that's the next team on the schedule.

766
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they can't control that. So and it's not

767
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden Chandeler went down and he started,

768
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, bawling. This is all when Chandler was in it.

769
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is with with you know, with

770
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: COVID and injuries, it feels like they haven't had a

771
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: full arsenal on defense maybe since week one. I mean it,

772
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, and it happens with COVID and injuries, and

773
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Corey Peters least, it's I mean, I

774
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: have to go back and go when they have been

775
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: at full strength on defense. And that's the beauty of

776
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: these guys getting a ton of reps. And I can't

777
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: say enough about Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker the way

778
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: they tackle, and I hope the national media is paying attention.

779
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: And Isaiah Simmons, you know how bullish I'd been in

780
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: him and his second year. I mean he he had

781
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: a special teams tackle. He's physical man. He I love

782
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: the way and I just think we're in that number nine.

783
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: He ain't afraid of anything, and he's smart. When you

784
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: listen to him talk, he said, that's what we got

785
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: the game plan from Vance and we executed it. Where

786
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: a lot of guys let's go out script. That's not

787
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: happening now with Simmons what I see with Buddha Baker

788
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: because you can see Baker and they that heat seeking

789
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: missile that Dave Patch likes to describe because you can

790
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: see number three just tracking that ball carrier. And it's

791
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: the same with Isaiah Simmons in that number nine jersey,

792
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: the side to side lateral movement north south east west.

793
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: He has the ability to get to that ball carrier

794
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: and it's from that inside linebacker position. But the ability

795
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: to play a number of different positions line them up

796
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: in a number of different spots on the football field.

797
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, there was a real struggle last year. We're

798
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: not seeing that this year. He had seven tackles on Sunday.

799
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: But it's just the night and day difference of one

800
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: eighty difference between year one and year two. Him understanding

801
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: no longer thinking. He is reacting based off of his

802
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: film study and the fact that he's learned four different positions.

803
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can play five. I mean at Clemson

804
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: he played nine different positions. The only thing he didn't

805
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: play his defensive tackle and nose tackles. So when you're

806
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: listen to him talk, I'm impressed with his football IQ,

807
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: just like I am with Buddha Baker. You you're throwing

808
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: some other guys and maybe we don't get Jordan Hicks.

809
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with their football like hes. So sometimes football

810
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: has been played between the years above the shoulders. Physicality's

811
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: played obviously with the entire body. It is fun to watch,

812
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: not just the offense, but this Cardinals defense and sometimes

813
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more fun defensively because how it

814
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: frustrates and offense and them the inability to move the football.

815
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: And it's every single play they want no yards gained

816
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: or go backwards and if it doesn't, then they're all upset.

817
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: So it's the motivation to not outdo themselves. But they

818
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: have set the bar and it's the maintain that bar

819
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: that we've seen since week one. Yeah, and they and

820
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: they emptied the bench a little bit. We got a

821
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: chance to see Deon, Tay Thompson and Chris Banjo and

822
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: then the inside linebackers. We was Aving Collins and Joe

823
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Walker and then obviously they use Lecky and Michael dogb

824
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: is defense. What I really like about vance Ester he

825
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: showed Buddha coming off the side. You know, oh my god,

826
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: number three because you have to I d him. I mean,

827
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: you forget about the mic linebacker and then sometimes Buddha

828
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: will come from the other side and he'd make the

829
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: backside tackle when they try to avoid where he's going.

830
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: And that's just instincts. That's film session and you see

831
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of that from Isaiah Simmons, Buddha Baker, and

832
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. You could see the film session that these

833
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: guys watch where they're not surprised and hopefully guys are

834
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: in the right gap to make the play. And I

835
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: liked what you did in that fourth quarter as far

836
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: as pointing out who was on the field that we

837
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: typically don't see on the field defensively, and that's what

838
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to see in this game. Get guys off

839
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: the field in the second half once the game has

840
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: been decided, because there's a game coming up in ninety

841
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: six hours from the time Sunday's game ended to the

842
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: time Thursday's game begin it's a little over ninety six hours,

843
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: so the earliest you can start your recovery process the better. Yeah,

844
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: And Dennis Garlick was out there, you know, kind of

845
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: get a little reps. I don't know if Canard, I

846
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: don't I know Marcus Golden, he probably played more than

847
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe the whole game, But I know they

848
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: were kind of rotating some of the deaf guys, but

849
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Joe Walker was out there with Zaven. I'm like, wow,

850
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: Joe Hawker and Zaven. Joe Hawker has been a journeyman

851
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: and now he's with Zavin and Colin, and I thought

852
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Zaven's getting better. You can see some of those hits,

853
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: those tackles men't like I said, let's just you, and

854
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: I talked about give these guys an entire offset, which

855
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: he had, but Jordan Hicks just outplayed him in training camp.

856
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: That wasn't the plan. But like Steve Kim was on

857
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: ninety seven recent he says, I want to make one

858
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: thing clear. I don't tell the coaches who to play.

859
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: I made that comment. Now it's on the coaching staff.

860
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: And so he won because it was well, you weren't

861
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: going to let him compete. He said, that's not true.

862
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Yes he was on the block, he admitted it, But

863
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't get involved in the with when it comes

864
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: to the starters. That's on the coaches. That's why they

865
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: hire him. So I think that's good clarification to where

866
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: they were in that. But I'm I'm not down on

867
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Zavian Collins. I mean there's gonna be injuries. Um, he

868
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: plays on teams, he practices like his hair is on fire,

869
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: and that's only going to carry over to the game.

870
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: So but Isaiah just getting like we talked about, just

871
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: getting a full offseason OT. I mean he started flashing

872
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: an OTA's to me. I mean he was around the ball,

873
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: carried over to training camp and then you know, one day,

874
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's over there with the defensive

875
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: backs and it's a big deal. He's been doing that

876
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: a long time and good for the Cardinals coaching staff

877
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: to take him out of the inside linebacker because we

878
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: know that and Collins make the calls and move them

879
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: over there so we can get familiar with covering tight

880
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: ends and wide receivers. This guy can plain the slot

881
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: if he had to. If you are down on Zavan

882
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Collins or want to see him more, just know this.

883
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: We could have had this same conversation a year ago

884
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: at this time about Isaiah Simmons, and we might have

885
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: even had it here on Cardinals Cover two presented by

886
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Because there is

887
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: an expectation when you are drafted in the first round

888
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: and a higher expectation when you are drafted in the

889
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: top ten. Yet at the same time, a general manager,

890
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: a front office can have a plan going in to

891
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: the offseason, into training camp, into the regular season, but

892
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: if that plan needs to be tweaked changed, that's on

893
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: the coaches to relay the information, Hey, this player not

894
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: quite ready. We like that player. And as long as

895
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: you're in the building, it doesn't matter how you got there.

896
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: The best players are going to be on the football field.

897
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: And that's why I give Jordan Hicks. I mean, it

898
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: stood out the first couple of days after the conditioning,

899
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: how kind of shape is right? And I'm thinking, I'm

900
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: going to prove them wrong. They drafted a gun in

901
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: the first round. And you know, if if they're telling

902
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: me the job's his, and the coaches are telling me, hey,

903
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: just go out there and play its competition and he

904
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: won it. He won it faren square. But there'll be

905
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: a time in a place for Zamon Collins. Again, the

906
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: thing is they're winning. If you're losing, you oh, I

907
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: got to play my young guys. Now, that's that's not

908
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And they're trying to develop a guy.

909
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: Why they're winning and That's why it's important when it

910
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: comes to practice that he gets his money reps and

911
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to the game again, I like his

912
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: mental makeup. He's physical, he understands it. He's winning his turn,

913
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a time in a game like

914
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: last year, Isaiah gets the pick, he got the sack

915
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: on one Wilson. There's going to be a game this year,

916
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's third down or maybe on first

917
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: down he blows up a pile or something. So again

918
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: they're they're they're winning and also trying to develop him,

919
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's a good thing. Winning is always much more

920
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: fun and that's always seen from the Arizona Cardinals through

921
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: seven games. And now we'll see if it continues this

922
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: week literally in a matter of days on Thursday Night

923
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: football against a very good Green Bay Packers team. But

924
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: we'll get into that a little bit later. It is

925
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: a shorter weeks, a little bit different of his schedule

926
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals as well as the Green Bay Packers.

927
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: But anything else, MJ that we might have missed from

928
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: Sunday or you think we covered it all a lot

929
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: of good. The one negative the number of hits Kyler

930
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: Murray has sustained and the question marks as far as

931
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: what you do at the offensive line. But other than that,

932
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: once again a well played game offense, defense, and special teams. Yeah,

933
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: the one thing for me is Chase Edmonds. You know,

934
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have a touchdown, and I'm sure

935
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: fantasy people are upset about that. But in seven games

936
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: he has five hundred and ninety six total yards. He's

937
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: number one in rushing sixty eight carries, three hundred ninety

938
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: seven yards five point eight yards of carry. Now, it

939
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: does help with the forty yard run, but when you

940
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: get sixty seven and even zat he's third in receptions

941
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: on the team twenty seven one seventy two average and

942
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: six point four yards sketch. He is averaging eighty four

943
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: point one yards per game per game, He's serving his purpose,

944
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: He's serving a role, and within this offense, that's what

945
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: you want. You want guys who understand their role, not

946
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: too concerned about their own individual stats. But what can

947
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I do to help the team win on Sunday? Yeah,

948
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: and it's clear James Connor's their fourth quarterback, maybe five

949
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: or six left in the game. That preserves Edmunds and

950
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: you know he's doing the shoulder and Connor runs and

951
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to short yardage, it's Connor. I mean

952
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear, just based on the third and in

953
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: short and fourth Gyland in the goal line, no disrespect,

954
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: but he can pile through there. I'm not saying Edmunds

955
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: can't score. We know that. In New York against the

956
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Giants and Jets, he took it from the twenty three

957
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: different times right up the middle. Here it's a little

958
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: bit different. He's good from the twenty to the twenty.

959
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: Not saying he can't catch a ball in the flat,

960
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: but when you get down to that goal line in short,

961
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm handing off the number six. On Sunday, the Cardinals

962
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: had their second best rushing total of the season, one

963
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two yards on the ground, eighty one

964
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: by Edmonds, sixty four by Connor, and you add it

965
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: all up thirty one to five. The Cardinals beat the Texans,

966
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: and now the focus and the concentration is on Green Bay.

967
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: So Craig I wasn't aware of this until this morning.

968
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: So you know, when you get to Thursday night football,

969
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: you know sometimes they would have division games because of

970
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: less travel familiarity. But you know, in fairness of the

971
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: schedule makers, I mean, they got the Cardinals playing the

972
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Packers and both teams combined thirteen and one. I don't

973
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: recall this early in the season where you had this

974
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of matchup in the month of October. I mean,

975
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: it's fascinating and good for the schedule makers. I mean, obviously,

976
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: the Packers have won sixth straight. They lost in a

977
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Week one to the Saints in Jacksonville. Everyone thought that

978
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: Rogers was tanking it and ever since then, I mean,

979
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: his quarterback rating over the last couple of weeks is remarkable,

980
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and he's running, he's running out and buying time. He's

981
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: great with that bootleg and everything else. So they got

982
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: their work cut out. When it comes Aaron Rodgers, this

983
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: will be the best quarterback they faced right up to

984
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: this point. Cardinals and Packers. According to ESPN stats in Info,

985
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the best combined win percentage for a Thursday game in

986
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: October or later and the Super Bowl era, So since

987
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, a thirteen and one combined mark between

988
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Packers. It's almost unfortunate that it's not

989
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, so we have more time to discuss.

990
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: But we will discuss that game a little bit later

991
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: on on this week because it is going to be

992
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: one of those, another one of those. Can the Cardinals

993
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: keep this going? Can they answer the bell? What do

994
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: they do with the quality of opponents? As the Cardinal

995
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: or the Green Bay Packers all say that the Titans

996
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: did it to the Rams, they did it to the Browns,

997
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: So it's not like they haven't been in this position

998
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: and had these questions thrown at them yet this season.

999
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: But we'll get into that lots more because Mike Jarecki

1000
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: has got some homework to do as well. On that note,

1001
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

1002
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hyunday, pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

1003
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amahundro

1004
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Riel Lou. We'll talk to

1005
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.