1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick and Robert. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Let's not dally up, bit. We've got to get right 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: into it today because I know you are ripping to 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: talk about the connection between demonology and flatulence. That's right, 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's hidden in the title itself, right, 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the Fartonomicon. We're going to be discussing not only the 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: actual science of farts, but this this fascinating connection between 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: demonology and flatulence. And I want to note by the 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: way that the word fart predates flatulence and goes back 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: at least to the fourteenth century. And of course the 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: reality of human flatulence is is far older than humanity, 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: of course it is, and it goes deep, deep into time, 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: just as demons seem to do. Uh So, Yeah, demonology 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: does him to have a whole lot of farting in it. 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: And this is one of the funny things, you know. 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I was taught at church 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: not to say cuss words, and cuss words included a 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: lot of potty language and words for defecation and things 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: like that. But if you go back into say the 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Renaissance or the medieval period before that, you will actually 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: find a lot of pious holy men writing about theological 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: topics who are also quite potty mouthed. Yes that they 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: have their head. They have their head both in the 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: heavens and in the toilet at the same time. Yes, well, 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: that connection between heaven and the toilet is something we'll 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: discuss here. You know, one of my my favorite accounts, 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: and this, of course, is a medieval account from one 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: of the great works of medieval literature, and particularly Italian 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: medieval literature, uh, Dante's Inferno, of course. Uh. To refresh everyone, 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: of course. In in Dante's Inferno, Dante himself is guided 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: by the deceased poet Virgil through hell, through the underworld 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: in a journey that will eventually take him back up 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: to Paradise. Now, I love the Inferno, but I honestly 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: did not remember the farting segments. Oh man, the Inferno. 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: So Robert, you're gonna you're gonna have to illuminate me, 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: educate me on the farting. All right, well, I'm gonna 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: set the stage here here we have our duo venturing 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: into the Mala Boga the as a region of the 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: hell with all these uh, these these pits, these boulders 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: in which various tortures are taking place and roaming about 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: are the Malibranchia, the the evil clause. This is a 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: group of demons that are patrolling about and you know, 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: torturing uh as part of their job. And they all 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: have fabulous names like Scarmiglion, which means troublemaker, and Malacotah, 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: which means evil tail. And he's apparently the leader of 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the group. So I'm gonna read just a bit here 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: from this encounter. Oh me, what is it, master, that 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I see pray? Let us go? I said, without an escort, 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: If thou knowest how since for myself I asked none. 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: If thou art as observant as thy want is, dost 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: thou not see that they do nash their teeth and 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: with their brows are threatening woe to us. And he 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: to me quote, I will not have the fear let 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: them nash on according to their fancy, because they do 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: it for those boiling wretches Along the left hand dike. 58 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: They wheeled about, but first had each one thrust his 59 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: tongue between his teeth toward their leader for a signal, 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: and he had made a trumpet of his rump. Trumpet 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: of his rump. That is like the ultimate hell signal. 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Now we see that kind of blasphemous behavior also in 63 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: the Monty Python animations, you know, in Monty Python and 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: the Holy Grail, there's a scene depicting like cartoon versions 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: of the heavens, and it definitely includes people playing musical 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: instruments with their butts. And then, of course I can't 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: help but think of the French insult uh I fart 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: in your general direction. Oh yeah, there's that too. The 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: funny thing about about this uh trumpet of his rump 70 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: business is that scholars have actually argued for more than 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: a century. It seems like the last century has really 72 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: been the period in which this has been a matter 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of scholarly debate over whether this is supposed to be 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: funny or not. Why would it not be funny? I know, 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: I mean I vaguely remember my college Dante professor thinking 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: it was funny and generally enjoying the the humor that 77 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: is to be found throughout Inferno. Especially, things get less 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: funny as you get up to towards the paradise. But 79 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: there there are plenty of moments that I think we 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: can legitimately say are funny within Inferno. Yeah. Well, I 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: mean it's it's definitely there. In the same time that 82 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Dante is uh depicting and sometimes very lavish and excruciating 83 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: detail the terrors and tortures of Hell, he sometimes also 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: seems to be sort of satirizing the foibles of humanity. Yeah, 85 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: and skewering his personal enemies. Yeah. Yes. So for instance, 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: those demon names that I mentioned earlier, Alex Scarmiglian, Apparently 87 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: these these names are plays upon various family names that 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 1: that Dante took issue with as well. Right now, in general, 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: we should add there there's a lot of butt action 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to Christian demonology. Lots of demons speak 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: from their butts. Uh. They seal packs with their butts, 92 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: and of course they're all about doing things too human 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: butts in hell depending on the depictions. Uh, and you 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: can have a field day teasing apart all of the 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: various elements wound up in this sort of butt centric 96 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: myth making. Folks, if you haven't already figured it out, 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: this episode is gonna be heavy with a lot of 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: like butts and flatulence. So if you're not interested, uh, 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: you may be warned to tune out now because it 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: will continue, Yes, it will. It will not stop until 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: we reach the end. Uh. So another thing I should 102 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: point out this idea that you know, this link between 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: demons and flatuents. There is this idea that you see 104 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: where demons use flat uns against the faithful. I did 105 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: run across this account of fourth century Christian monk I 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: vag Risks of Pontus warning that demons may bloat the 107 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: faithful with flatulence to distract them from religious observation. That 108 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: is an insidious tactic. Did that go in the screwtape letters? 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: That's that's smart it should have. Incidentally, I did run 110 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: across a contemporary ride up where I think the the 111 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: author was arguing for the demonic powers of yoga and 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: how it was. It was one of these wonderful accounts 113 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: where the like, yes, I too have been to a 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: yoga class, and I thought it's connections to to a 115 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: non Christian religion was was harmless. And then they talk 116 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: about some of the the signs that you may have 117 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: demonic spirit annual in. One of them is flatments. Really, yes, really, yes. 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: It is kind of odd to see in the modern 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: day people associating an evil spirit or kind of a 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like generally the idea of 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: an evil spirit has been more abstracted these days, But 122 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: it is very true if you go back into history, 123 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: there's a very physical kind of quality to it that 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: it that it is embodied by bad smells and bad 125 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: physical forces and excrement and things like that. Yeah. And 126 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: yet still you have to realize that all of these individuals, uh, 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: they experienced flatulence as just a regular aspect of their 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: lives and everyday reality of their biology. Yeah. If this 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: guy gets flatulence in church, is that also a demon 130 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: possessing him? Yeah? I mean, let's let's not be silly 131 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: about it, like that those those guys are gonna fart 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: in church. It's just going to happen, no matter how 133 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: holy the monk, Uh, there is going to be a 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: bit of a flat us in play. Now. It's obvious 135 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: that many people in the Middle Ages, and lots of 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: people involved in creating Christian theology and mythology have been 137 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: interested in the idea of flatulence and the role that 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: plays in demonology. But sometimes it goes beyond the demonology. 139 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier that that some of these theologians really 140 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: do seem to have their head in the toilet. And 141 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: who I mainly had in mind was Martin Luther, because 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I know Martin Luther loved some potty humor jokes, and 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: he he was he had a he had a wicked, 144 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: witty pin and he would fling just powerful volleys of scatological, 145 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: excoriating invective against his enemies. Yeah, they're a number of different, 146 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: uh Martin Luther quotes that use scatological references, probably with 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: the most famous one is quote but I resist the devil, 148 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: and often it is with a fart that I chase 149 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: him away. That's great because so it's not just a rebuke, 150 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: but it's also like a an implied diminishment of the 151 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: power of the devil. Right, It's like, I don't need 152 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: powerful spiritual forces or strong weapons or anything like that 153 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: to chase the devil away. I dismissed the devil. Yeah, 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: it's not just merely a get behind me satan um. 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: It's get behind me satan. Now here comes a tuot. 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: And of course there are other examples of this as well. 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: I was looking at a book titled luther Man Between 158 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: God and the Devil by he ik A Oberman, who 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: points out that Luther often used poopy language against the 160 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Devil and his work. So here are just a few examples. Uh, 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: and and Joe, maybe you can you can read these 162 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: with me. Uh. Here's one. But if that is not 163 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: enough for you, you devil, I also have and wipe 164 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: your mouth on that and take a hearty bite o ruh. Okay, 165 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: we got another one here. A slanderer does nothing but 166 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: ruminate the filth of others with his own teeth and 167 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: wallow like a pig with his nose in the dirt. 168 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: That is also why his dropping stink most surpassed only 169 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: by the devil's. And though man drops his excrements in private, 170 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: the slanderer does not respect this privacy. He gluts on 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: the pleasure of wallowing in it, and he does not 172 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: deserve better according to God's righteous judgment. When the slanderer whispers, 173 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: look how he has on himself, the best answer is 174 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: you go eat it. He's almost there's almost like a 175 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: childish glee. It is that is that is present in 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: these quotes. Yes, and of course Luther being the author 177 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: of the Christian Reformation, you know, the birth of Protestantism. Luther, 178 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: of course, had a lot of farty invective for the pope. Quote, 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: I will give a fart for a staff you Satan, 180 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Antichrist or pope can lean on it a stinking nothing man. 181 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: This is making me think I would not want to 182 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: make enemies with Martin Luther. Yeah, I mean, he's going 183 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: to really let you have it, maybe physically. Now, all 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: of this makes me think that you could actually write 185 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: a whole book on the cultural significance of farting in 186 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: Middle Age Europe. You could, And in fact, Valerie Allen 187 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: did just that, Yeah, in her book on Farting, Language 188 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and Laughter in the Middle Ages, published in two thousand seven. 189 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: And Uh, this is just this is a rich tone. 190 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: This is truly a part anomicon, uh in its own right. 191 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to pull a few choice tidbits 192 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: from the text. So she she, for instance, mentions uh 193 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: the fourteenth century Icelandic tale of uh poor Stein's pattern Skulks, 194 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: in which a demon arises from the depths of a 195 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: twenty two seat toilet to confront our hero whoa So 196 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: is it like the number of seats is proportional to 197 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: the depths of degradation that the toilet embodies. I guess, 198 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: so you know, because I'm guessing that those twenty two 199 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: seats share a common pit of foulness, and it's it takes. 200 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: It's that sort of foulness from which the demon must arise. 201 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: She also notes that late medieval art often depicts demons 202 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: is covered in fecal matter, as well as the mystery 203 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: plays of the time. So an example of this from Alan, 204 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: she says that in the drama The Fall of Lucifer, 205 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: as Lucifer quote thuds to his stinking sty, he wails 206 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: for fear of fire, I crack a fart, and then 207 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: in the Fall of Man you have this character Diabolos, 208 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: and he cries out, and this is of course the translation. 209 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: On account of this fall, I am starting to quake 210 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: with a art my britches I break, which again is 211 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: just kind of another almost like grade school poopy insult 212 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: or parody leveled at at the devil. It has some 213 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: of the wit of the couplets you see in like 214 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Dryden and Alexander Pope. Yea more like Alexander poop, though 215 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm alright, um, so I want to share one more 216 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: quote from Valerie Allen because she she sums up a 217 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: lot of this very nicely, and and she says the 218 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: following quote. If in the popular theatrical imagination, Satan's descent 219 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to bottomless perdition is punctuated by flatulence, it is a 220 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: natural consequence to picture him as the load that Heaven 221 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: discharges into Hell the show of the Cosmos. I I 222 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: just love that because it does it just sums up 223 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: so much of this this energy and inner interconnectedness between 224 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: bodily movements and flatulence and these demonic entities and just 225 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: the overall like theological structure of the universe. Christian cosmology 226 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: reduced to us your everyday bowel movement on the potty. 227 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: And of course, the Christian tradition is not the only 228 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: tradition to to play with flash lens, not at all. 229 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, we will leave the Christian tradition for a 230 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: moment and look at the fact that fart humor goes 231 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: way back and covers pretty much the entire world. There 232 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: are fart jokes everywhere, and they go deep into history. 233 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: There's actually a writer and academic named Paul McDonald who 234 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: he teaches at the University of Wolverhampton and he was 235 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: involved in this list that came out a few years back. 236 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: That was where they were trying to find the oldest 237 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: jokes known in history, and it turned out that, according 238 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: to this University of Wolverhampton list, the oldest known joke 239 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: at the time was a fart joke. It is a 240 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: fart joke from ancient Mesopotamia. It's a Sumerian joke that 241 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: traces back to about nineteen d BC e, making it 242 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: almost four thousand years old. And it reads in translation 243 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: as the following quote, something which has never occurred since 244 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: time immemorial. A young woman did not fart in her 245 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: husband's lap. Okay. I think maybe like the the particulars 246 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: of the joke don't don't carry well across you know, 247 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: more than four millennia. But it does seem to, yeah, 248 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: it's lost something in in translation, maybe language wise and 249 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: definitely culturally. I don't know if this is topical humor 250 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: for the time. Is it like there was a big 251 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: problem with I don't know, dudes getting married and then 252 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: their wife farting in their lap. I don't know, but 253 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: that's what it seems to suggest it's like everybody will 254 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, that always happens. Uh. It's sort 255 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: of a mandatory contemplation here. Do you think that the 256 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: presence of an ancient fart joke like this supports uh, 257 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the idea of of the camera a mind Julian James's theory? 258 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Or is it? Or is it? Or is this uh? 259 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Or is this some some ammunition one could use against it? 260 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess i'd say it's neutral. Yeah, 261 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't say supports okay, But but I do 262 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: wonder what would one, given the particulars of of the 263 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: bicameral theory, would would one have to be conscious as 264 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: a modern human is conscious in order to make a 265 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: fart joke like this? That's a good question. I don't 266 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: know how humor would play into the presence of consciousness. Yeah. 267 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: I will say though that I love Julian James's theory, 268 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: and I would I would hate it if it were 269 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: an ancient fart joke that truly brought it down, like 270 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: this was the this was the arrow that managed to 271 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to kill the beast. That's the nail in the coffin. 272 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: It's a fart joke, Yeah, sorry, James could be well, 273 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: I say, we look elsewhere for more fart jokes in history. 274 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: One of the best that I have come across is 275 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: actually not a verbal joke, but it is a series 276 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: of amazing illustration sans from medieval Japanese art. So, Robert, 277 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: have you seen these medieval Japanese fart scrolls? I had 278 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: not until you showed them to me this morning. I mean, 279 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: I've seen so many different bits of Japanese art that 280 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: depict basically just all sorts of body horror, be they 281 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: in the form of yokai or other monster stories, or 282 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: or even just like the magical testicle based ability of 283 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: the raccoon dogs. So in Edo period Japan, which is 284 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: the early seventeenth to mid nineteenth century, some artists or 285 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: group of artists created a collection of artworks that have 286 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: now been digitized and you can find them at the 287 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: website of Waseda University Library. And these artworks are contained 288 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: on a scroll known as hay Gassin or Fart Battle, 289 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: and the name says it all. You've got dudes blasting 290 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: each other with farts in every way you can imagine, 291 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: but not just any farts. These are kind of a 292 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: supernatural high powered fart that appears to have the power 293 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: to knock people over and do all kinds of damage. 294 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: It's represented in the artwork as a kind of spreading 295 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: beam of darkness that comes out of the butt. And 296 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: so it's you've got dudes farting and enemies while riding 297 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: on horseback. You've got dudes farting through holes in the walls. 298 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: You've got farting on cats, I don't know why, sometimes 299 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: farting at cats and the cats are like And then 300 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: you've got people farting into bags and then releasing the 301 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: bags on rivals and then repelling farts with handheld fans. 302 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty smart, like Mortal Kombat. Yeah, right there, all 303 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: kinds of havoc and destruction. And this particular scroll actually 304 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: appears to be part of a larger tradition of fart 305 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: battle artworks. I found one academic article discussing medieval Japanese 306 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: fart battles in art, and it was by Akiko Yano. 307 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: The article was called Historiography of the Fallic Contest hand 308 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: scroll in Japanese Art in the Japan Review, and Yano 309 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: describes one art scroll housed at the Mitsui Memorial Museum 310 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: in to Kio, which is known as catchier a maki, 311 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: and it's a hand scroll that contains both the phallic 312 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: contest component that was in the title of the paper, 313 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: which is a competition quote among men with surrealistically huge 314 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: male members, and then it's also got a fart battle component. 315 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: And in the fart battle section, the only text is 316 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: a few brief descriptions of what is happening in some 317 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: of the artworks. Examples of the explanatory text include quote, 318 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: they prepare to fart like arrows by drinking cold water 319 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: to chill their bellies, picking sweet acorns and eating them 320 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: with raw chestnuts. Their stomachs are chilled. Now they line 321 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: up to fart like arrows by eating hot rice porridge. Okay, 322 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: now this lines up with some of the science will 323 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: be discussing later. Yes, And finally they collect the farts 324 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: in a bag and prepare to volley fart arrows. Fart arrows, 325 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: fart arrows. All right. I really like the way that's written, 326 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: as if it's like you should already know what a 327 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: fart arrow is. But yeah. Another interesting thing Yano points 328 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: out in the article is that many of the figures 329 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: depicted in these artworks releasing these huge sort of fart 330 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: Hadukins are supposed to be priests. They're dressed as priests, 331 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: so you have to wonder. It's like, is there a 332 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: satirical aspect to this? Yeah, I mean we see this 333 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: in East and West, right, this idea perhaps that you know, 334 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: no matter how holy this particular holy man or woman 335 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: may seem, we all know that they fart, and we 336 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: can imagine it, and sometimes, if we're lucky, we can 337 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: hear it, and it's it serves to sort of knock 338 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: them down a peg, at least in our minds. Okay, 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: I got one more good one, Robert, did you did 340 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: you know previously about Roland the Farter? I had not 341 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: heard of Roland the Farter. No, do tell of Roland 342 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: the Farther. Well, there's a really great Warren Zevon song 343 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: about him. I'm getting confused for something else, roll on 344 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: the head of Thompson Gunner. Yeah. So there is a 345 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: section on good old Roland in the book A Social 346 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: History of England nine to twelve hundred, edited by Julia 347 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Crick and Elizabeth van Houts, and this is discussing what 348 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: went on in the court of the English King Henry 349 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: the Second, who ruled in the middle of the twelfth century. 350 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to read this quote quote at the 351 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: royal court, Christmas was evidently a time for special entertainments, 352 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: as suggested by the records of one Roland le Patur, 353 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: also called rue Landas Lefarterre, who was granted a sergeanty, 354 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: apparently of the late twelfth century. And aside, note, a 355 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: sergeanty was part of the feudal system, where a person 356 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: would be awarded control of a feudal estate in exchange 357 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: for some non standard service rendered. So basically it was 358 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of like a feudal knighthood. You'd be given a 359 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: grant of land, except instead of being a night in 360 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: service of the King of the queen, you would do 361 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: some kind of other service. But going back to the quote, 362 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: his grant is typical of that given to favored entertainers 363 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: as well as to others of service to the king. 364 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: In his case, it included the requirement of performing saltum, 365 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: siffletum petum, or a jump, a whistle a fart before 366 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: the king on Christmas Day. The phrase was a stock 367 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: expression and seems to represent standard buffoonery, the kind of 368 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: thing that would constitute a jester's performance, and so it 369 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: is likely that Roland the Farter was a royal jester 370 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: and the fart was his stock in trade. I wonder 371 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: if these were legitimate farts or were these like sort 372 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: of clown based farts. Did he have some sort of 373 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: cushioned devices at a poem in the armpit kind of thing? Yeah, 374 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: I would tend to suggest they wouldn't settle for anything 375 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: less than the real thing. Isn't that interesting because you 376 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: can in the same way that you know, we have 377 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: these these festivals in which the fool has made king 378 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: for for a day, you know, everything is the reverse 379 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: for the For the jester in the in the actual 380 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: king's court, to fart in the king's presence, Uh, could 381 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: be a extreme embarrassment. It could It could diminish your 382 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: standing in the royal court. And yet the opposite is 383 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: true for the jester. What it would if he has 384 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: called upon to to do his performance and he has 385 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: no flatuss upon which to call it? Could that could 386 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: be disaster? That could could cause his head to be 387 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: separated from his body. Yeah. I can't remember the details, 388 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: but you've just called to mind a story. I think 389 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I recall about some lord or some some noble dignitary whoever, 390 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: who was appearing before Queen Elizabeth the First and who 391 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: I've heard this one farted in her presence and it 392 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: was so embarrassing that he essentially had to leave the 393 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: country or at least disappeared to somewhere somewhere far away 394 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: for a while, but then came back. Is the version 395 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: of the story that he came back years later and 396 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: it presented himself before the Queen and she said, I 397 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: remember you. You're the boy who farted again again if 398 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: it was, and it's your whole identity. Yeah, that's like 399 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: a I think that's a human fear like that if 400 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: if if you let one rip in the wrong context, Uh, 401 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: that fart will haunt you forever for no good reason, 402 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: because again everyone does this, This is a basic aspect 403 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: of of human behavior. Well, unfortunately, that is exactly the 404 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: route that the role in the farter story goes down, 405 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: So it has a kind of sad ending. According to 406 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: stories collected. Actually, oh you know what, I just realized 407 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: in a book that's the same Valerie Allan book you 408 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. Yeah, so in that same Valerie Allen book, 409 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: apparently she She talks about how a later king, probably 410 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: Henry the Third, took the crown, and the story goes 411 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: that the laughs dried up and this king did not 412 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: find Roland's act very funny, and he revoked Roland's grant 413 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: of land, citing the fact that his buffoonery was indecent. 414 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: But Alan also notes that some things about the timeline 415 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: don't really add up. These chronicles would have role in 416 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: the Farter having a career that was like a hundred 417 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: and twenty years long or more so. Something about the 418 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: story is probably garbled or wrong, but there does appear 419 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: to be some kind of historical core to it. We 420 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: do think there was a role in the farter who 421 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: farted for his bread and butter. Huh, Well, I wonder 422 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: if it This is near speculation on my part, but 423 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if it could have been more of a role. 424 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Bozo the clown, or you could 425 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: have different actors playing Roland the Farter, and therefore he 426 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: could live for the doctor. Yeah, yeah, you know, every 427 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: time the doctor disappears, you have a new role in 428 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: the Farter time Lord shows up. Yeah, the basic that 429 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: basic transformation scene, except with farting sounds at it. Get 430 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: on at Hollywood. I want to see the Roland Roland 431 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: at the farther chronicles. All right, I think we should 432 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we come back we 433 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: will look at the science of flatulence. Than alright, we're back. 434 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: So what exactly is flatulence? Tell me, Robert, Well, when 435 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: you you boil it down to just the basics, it's 436 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: gas produced during digestion and flatus. Only A applies to 437 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: gas expelled through the anus, So not the cloaco or 438 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: a specialized glander duck. We're talking about gas from your 439 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: anus or the anus of any anally empowered animal. Because, 440 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: of course, as we do. We discussed on our our 441 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: anus episode, which I'll link to on the Landing page 442 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: for this episode stuff to blow your mind dot com. 443 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: There's always more, Yeah, there's there's always more content out there. 444 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: But as we mentioned in that, uh, not every creature 445 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: has an anus. Now that being said, it should also 446 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: be noted that not every animal farts, and we will 447 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: get back to that truth as well. But let's talk 448 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: about the composition of the average two. Yeah, so how 449 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: much does the average person far it? Alright, so, sure 450 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: people out there are wondering like am I am I 451 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: farting too much? Not enough? I've got to know, uh yeah, 452 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: And you know, it is one of those things that's 453 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: probably difficult for most people to gauge because it's depending on, 454 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: like I guess your what kind of household you grew 455 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: up in, and what sort of culture you're a part of. Uh. 456 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes farting is something that must be done in secret 457 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: uh and blamed upon children and animals. But apparently the 458 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: average person uh, let's rip between five hundred and two 459 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: thousand million leaders of gas per day and each about 460 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: is likely to be thirty five to ninety million leaders. Okay, 461 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: I just did some extremely rough math on that, and 462 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: it looks like that would average out to about twenty 463 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: farts a day on average if you go for the 464 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: middle of those ranges. All right, Well, I would be 465 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: curious to hear from listeners who want to uh speak 466 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: truth to that number. Does that line up with your experience? 467 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: What do you think? Uh? Incidentally, I also have run 468 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: across um uh some material in the past that spoke 469 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: to at least in uh in some cultures and maybe 470 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: all cultures. I don't know, but the you're gonna have 471 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: different volumes with with men and women depending on is 472 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: it is it seem more proper for men to regularly 473 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: pass gas versus women, and therefore women might um contain 474 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: themselves more more than the men. I'm not sure how 475 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: that research actually lines up with our figures here, though. 476 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Is there fart injustice being done? Yeah? I mean again, 477 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: we come back to the basic reality that this is 478 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: something that everybody's body does. So, according to Jeffrey Klueger, 479 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: writing for Discover magazine and nineteen and fabulous article in 480 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: which is primary source is gastro inturologists and two thousand 481 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: thirteen Nobel Prize winner Dr Michael Levitt, who will keep 482 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: coming back to because Levitt is a big name in 483 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: the fart science community. Yes. Uh, but according to this 484 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: article of Flatus, is carbon dioxide, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, and methane. 485 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: I read somewhere that among some people tested, the nitrogen 486 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: seemed to be the greatest component by volume. Okay, and 487 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: these are all either swallowed in or with the food 488 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: or released during digestion. Now this is all odorless is 489 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the interesting part to consider here? Uh. In the methane, 490 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: the remaining one percent of the composition is to blame 491 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: for the smell, and it's the byproduct of the microbe 492 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: legions that live in your gut aiding in your digestion. 493 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: That one percent is their waste gas. So yeah, what 494 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: exactly are these odor carrying compounds? And by god, there's 495 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: a study on that. So this is a study by Suarez, 496 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: Springfield and Love at the same Levet we mentioned earlier 497 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: called identification of Gases responsible for the odor of hum 498 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: inflate us and Evaluation of a device purported to reduce 499 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: this odor, published in Gut And so I've not heard 500 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: of the journal Gut before. That's great. Yeah, all your 501 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: gut needs met in one place. So they took sixteen 502 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: healthy subjects and fed them pinto beans and stool softener 503 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: and hooked them up to quote rectal tubes. Getting off 504 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: to a good start. So results results were that most 505 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: but not quite all of the malodorous calm pounds and 506 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: human flatus where sulfur based compounds, and the following where 507 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: the major sulfur compounds detected yet hydrogen sulfide, which has 508 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: a rotten eggs smell, and it's associated with the microbial 509 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: breakdown of organic matter in an oxygen free environment. So 510 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: if you've ever had that really bad microbial decomposition smell, 511 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: it's often coming from some kind of anaerobic source. It's 512 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: breakdown occurring where there's no oxygen in the breakdown area, 513 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: and it's it's producing these horrible sulfurous by products. And 514 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: this was followed by methane thiol, which is sometimes described 515 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: as the smell of rotten cabbage, and it's a major 516 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: component of bad breath, and then also by dimethyl sulfide, 517 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: which has a strong bad smell, also sometimes described as 518 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: cabbage like. In fact, I've read that it's produced when 519 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: you boil cabbage. So part of the bad smell of 520 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: boiled cabbage is going to be this stuff dimethyl sulfide, 521 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: but it's also in lower concentration when paired with other smells. 522 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: One of the major components of the smell we identify 523 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: as the smell of the ocean, which is funny because 524 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: when you think about the smell of the sea, it's 525 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: one of those that that's kind of sitting on the 526 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: fence between a good smell and a bad smell, right right, 527 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: And it's kind by context really exactly, it's kind of nice, 528 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: but it can also get kind of kind of foul. Yeah, 529 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's when you're actually at the ocean. You 530 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: know that you have you have all the other sensory 531 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: information to to skew it into a more positive place 532 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: and in a definite uh oceanic vibe. It's kind of 533 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: like the whole like like cheese versus smelly shoes or 534 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: smelly socks situation where oftentimes that you're essentially talking about 535 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: a very similar odor, but when associated with the shoes 536 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: it is gross. But when associated with a particular cheese, 537 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: if you are a cheese eater, then it will excite you. 538 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point of comparison. Now, so 539 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the human judges in judging the malodorous nous of different farts, 540 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: they apparently were able to significantly correlate the worst smelling 541 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: farts with hydrogen sulfide concentration. So it seems like the 542 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: more hydrogen sulfide is in the flate US, the worse 543 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: it smells. Now, as a side note, the study also 544 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: looked at a couple of methods for eliminating the odor 545 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: of flate US quote. Odor intensity was also determined after 546 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: treatment of FLATEUS samples with zinc acetate which binds sulfidril 547 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: compounds hydrogen sulfide and methane thiol or activated charcoal utilizing 548 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: gas type milar pantaloons. Yes, gas type milar pantaloons. The 549 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: ability of a charcoal lined cushion to adsorb sulfur containing 550 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: gases instilled at the anus of eight subjects was assessed, 551 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: and what they found was the activated charcoal anus cushion 552 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: worked best and it adsorbed more than of the sulfur 553 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: based gases. So if you want your farts to not stink, 554 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: you can use an activated charcoal anus cushion and it 555 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: will apparently work pretty darn well. How come that's not 556 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: a standard feature in these, uh, these various underwears that 557 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: one can order online these days. I think maybe there 558 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: actually is underwear you can get like that. I don't 559 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: know if it uses activated charcoal, but there are I've 560 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: seen advertisements for underwear that is supposed to get rid 561 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: of the bad smell of farts, and I don't know 562 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: how effective it is or what it's made out of, 563 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: but I know I've seen that before. Interesting, Now, Robert, 564 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: here's a question I've got. I know people are very 565 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: often prone to link the prevalence of farts and the 566 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: bad smell of farts to certain elements in the diet. 567 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: But when people talk about this, it sounds completely random 568 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: to me. It sounds like they're just making up one 569 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: thing or another because there's no consistency whatsoever, and what 570 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: people say leads to lots of farts or bad smelling farts, 571 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: except maybe beans. Well, and then here's the thing to 572 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: write anything that you any particular food you associate with 573 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: a fart to speak of it. Uh. Thus lee is humorous, 574 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: so that if you were to say, oh, man, someone's 575 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: got the tutsie roll toots today, or I have a 576 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: bad case of the beef farts, huh uh yeah, it's 577 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: it actually gets funnier. I think the more mundane the 578 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: food you say, is like, oh, you know, Terry's got 579 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: bread farts over here. Yeah, there's there's nothing that isn't funny. 580 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: But as it turns out, there there is a science 581 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: to what's going on here, and we can classify our 582 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: foods into different toot categories. The more complex the carbohydrates 583 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: in your diet, the more pungent the odor is likely 584 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, so meat, fish, nuts, and berries not 585 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: too much to worry about citrus, bread and potatoes. Those 586 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: are full of complex sugars. Uh, So you get a 587 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: two tier consistency. And then the beans, bananas and milk 588 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: foods such as this. That's where you really in your 589 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: fart city. And this is because the more complex carbohydrates 590 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: are more difficult to break down, requiring more work in 591 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: the lower regions of the bowels. In general, however, it's 592 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: not only the creature's diet that's gonna be a major factor, 593 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: but also the specific gut floor that they have, the 594 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: specific uh you know, microbes that are residing within them 595 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: to aid in their digestion. But and then also overall 596 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: health of the individual. So these are gonna character These 597 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: are gonna influence not only the character but the volume 598 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: of the toots and high fiber diets. They have a 599 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: lot of veggies in them. For instance, these have been 600 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: linked to increased flash lens as well as have dairy 601 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: starch and fructose. That's interesting. I mean, not knowing anything 602 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: going in, I might have assumed, Hey, who's gonna fart 603 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: the most, don't I don't know, Maybe people who eat 604 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of meat. No, it's the it's the curse 605 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: of the vegetarian, but but also Brussels sprouts and meat 606 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: are also examples of foods with high concentrations of sulfur 607 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: leading to the production of that hydrogen sulfide that we've 608 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: mentioned already, the smell of rotten eggs, but also hey, 609 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the smell of fire and brimstone. Oh, that brings us 610 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: right back to the demonic associate. Yes, I wonder, I 611 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: wonder now speaking of fire and brimstone. Mary Wroach actually 612 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: breaks down the flammable components of platus in her excellent 613 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: book Gulp Adventures in the Alimentary Canal. Uh. This is 614 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: this is a fabulous book I've mentioned on the show before. 615 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Uh and and Mary does a fabulous job exploring fart 616 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: science and at least two different books that she's written. 617 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: So here's some of the facts. Methane and hydrogen are 618 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: explosive in concentrations higher than four to five percent, and 619 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: then up to eight of plates is hydrogen. That's interesting. 620 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: I wonder how that compares to what I read that 621 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: a major component is nitrogen. I guess maybe it's got 622 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: to be highly variable, right, I imagine. So, now we've 623 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: all heard tales of lighted farts and if you're like me. 624 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: You might have seen it done on stage that at 625 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: an Atlanta improv show. Do not take that as an 626 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: endorsement of this behavior. This podcast is not recommending lighting fart, 627 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: which is actually seriously dangerous behavior, right and you and 628 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: you will see why it's dangerous as we roll out 629 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: some of the details. Um but but Roache does describe 630 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: a few of the more harrowing cases of flate is fire, 631 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: such as the fatal N seven mishap during a colonic polypectomy, 632 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: that is, the surgical removal of polyps from the colon. Wow, 633 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: how did this happen? So the gastro intrologist here was 634 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: using electrocoagulation to cut to cut down on bleeding, and 635 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: about eight seconds into the procedure there was an explosion. 636 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: The patient's body jerked on the table. Uh, and then 637 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: the the colonoscope was quote completely ejected from the body, 638 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: which Mary interprets is essentially it was launched out of 639 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: the anus by the explosion. It is horrifying. Yeah, but 640 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: basically what happened is that there is there the gas 641 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: in the colon was flammable, and the the the electro 642 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: cauterization device touched it off and bamo. This is why 643 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: Roach says there's so much overkill in pre colonoscopy bowel cleansing. 644 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: The patient in this case had followed the pre surgical instructions. 645 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: He'd taken the laxative manitol to clear everything out. But 646 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: but while there was no fecal matter inside of him, 647 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: there was gas. Now important note here manitol is not 648 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: used anymore. So Mary Road churches everyone not to worry 649 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: about exploding during the colonoscopy. Uh and she She also 650 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: points out that doctors will blow air or carbon dioxide, 651 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: which is non flammable, into the colon as they work. Quote. 652 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: Inflating the colon also helps them see what they're doing. 653 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Air creates the magnificent billowing flatulence that rings through the 654 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: colonoscopy recovery room. I've never considered that. Apparently it's the thing. 655 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: If only the Fart Battle illustrators had known, I know, 656 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: it would be a much more fiery affair right unexplored 657 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: territory here. So some of you might be wondering, well, heck, 658 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: if there is a lethal amount of gas in my 659 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: colon right now, should I be afraid? Should I? Should 660 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: I step away from campfires? Etcetera. And uh, Roach says, 661 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: don't worry. Basically, so the hydrogen and methane dilutes as 662 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: you pass gas, so basically as it comes out into 663 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, very quickly disperses and enters a concentration. That's 664 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: not dangerous. That's right. Too light of fart. And again 665 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: we do not encourage you to do so, you'd have 666 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: to hold the match. So the flame made contact with 667 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: the gas the second it left the body, too close 668 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: for comfort. In other words, I feel like the commercial 669 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: like showing people skateboarding, do not attempt, do not attempt. Yeah, 670 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: we can't drive that home enough here. Oh, and I 671 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: have to mention this this section from from from the 672 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: book Gulp as well, because Roach chats with University of 673 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: Alabama's Stephen Secor. Uh. If you look him up, he's 674 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: almost always draped in a which is which is an 675 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: encouraging sign of a biologist. And Secor has this interesting 676 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: theory regarding the myth of the of the fire breathing dragon. 677 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: So imagine this, imagine us, Uh, the sort of gas 678 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: a large snake would generate. Snakes do fart? Yeah, like yeah, 679 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: that they do. And and so this would be like 680 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: a python or a constrictor. Right now, imagine in that 681 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: inside that snake of a vegetation gorged mammal that is 682 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: also decomposing. Okay, so like snake eats a ruminant herbivore, right, 683 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: that's that it that itself had just previously eaten a 684 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: whole bunch of grass. Now, bear in mind that many 685 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: plant eaters lacking rumans, have a seasome as a pouch 686 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: between the small intestines and the colon, and animals like 687 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: rabbits have extra large ones. And the interesting thing is 688 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: that pythons and boas do as well, not for the 689 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: plants they're not eating, but for the plant eaters their gobbling, 690 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: gobbling down whole. So that's quite a lot of methane 691 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: building up in there. So imagine some prehistoric hunters dragging 692 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: a gorge snake homeb to the campfire. You know, something 693 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: that's just thick with its recent meal, some sort of 694 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: whole large herbivore just lodged in its gut being broken down. 695 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: So the hunters dragged this back to the campfire and 696 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: they PLoP it down in front of the fire hard 697 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: enough to blast the creature's mouth open, and then this 698 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: brilliant burst of flame. I will say that as a 699 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: highly contrived scenario, but I like it nonetheless. Yeah, it's 700 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: it's it's beautiful in its own way. Now I mentioned 701 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: that Mary Roach has more than one book that explores 702 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: the science of flatus. Uh. The other is Packing for Mars, 703 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: which is because this actually matters in space. Yeah, yeah, 704 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's a big it's a big deal. Um. 705 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: She She explores the threat of of NASA fart studies 706 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: in a couple of her books, and these are just 707 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: a couple of the choice nuggets. Here she mentions that 708 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: Edwin Murphy researched unquote experimental bean meal h fed to 709 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: volunteers who had been rigged via erectal catheter to out 710 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: gas into a measurement device. Yea, he was interested in 711 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: individual differences, not just in the overall volume of flate us, 712 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: but in the differing percentages of the gases, and owing 713 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: to differences in intestinal bacteria, half the population produced no methane. 714 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: No methane, Yeah, no methane. And this so this would 715 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: make them attractive as astronauts. But I can also see 716 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: this can make them a target of chauvinistic attitudes about 717 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: how real farts contain methane. True, but Murphy even reported 718 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: that he had found an individual who was flate as free. 719 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: So here's a quote. I don't believe that you, Oh, well, 720 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's it's a tough pill to swallow. 721 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: But here's the quote of special of special interest for 722 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: further research was the subject who produced essentially no flateus 723 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: on one hundred grams dry weight of beans. So he 724 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: suggested that the astronauts be selected from quote that part 725 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: of our population producing little or no methane or hydrogen. Now, also, 726 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: it's it's worth noting that NASA used to keep our 727 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: flatest expert and again future Nobel Prize winner biophysicist Michael 728 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: Levitt on retainer as a consultant, and he ruled that 729 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: the capsules uh that they were using at the time 730 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: were large enough and and well circulated enough to prevent 731 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: the dangerous concentrations of gas from building up. God, can 732 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: you imagine that being the requirement? Though? That shut you 733 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: down to become an astronaut. So it's like you've ever 734 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: since your little kid, you've trained, you've worked hard in school, 735 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: you've worked hard to stay fit. You you're ready to 736 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: go to space. You're in perfect shape, you know all 737 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: the astrophysics, you've been a test pilot, god knows what else, 738 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 1: and you're ready to be an astronaut. And they put 739 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: a rectal tube in you and they say, I'm sorry, 740 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: you produced too much late us. You can't go to Mars. Yeah. 741 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: It's like you're super qualified, but your farts are weird. 742 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry now, you know. In the past, we've we've 743 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: talked about the prospect of genetically engineering astronauts, and of 744 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: course the main objectives here would be, uh, you know, 745 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: to to make them more resistant to uh, solar and 746 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: cosmic radiation, or or make them resistant to micro gravity 747 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: bone loss. But perhaps we also want to ensure a 748 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: fart free space faring human uh, either via genetic changed 749 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: in the individual or manipulation or genetic engineering of gut 750 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: flora itself. Oh, yeah, that that could be a thing. 751 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if one way to do that 752 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: would be not so much through genetic engineering from birth, 753 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: but through say like fecal transplants, Yeah, to change the 754 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: gut flora profile. Yeah, I mean really, there's there's so 755 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: much left to learn about the the connection between our 756 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: gut flora, uh, and other aspects of our health, not 757 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: only physical health, but even mental health. I believe we've 758 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: talked about this on the show before, the idea that 759 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: in the future, one of the treatments for certain cases 760 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: of say, depression, might be treatable via something like a 761 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: fecal transplant. Yes, some of the amazing implications of gut 762 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: flora for all kinds of body health up and down 763 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: the line are discussed in that great book I recommended 764 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Ed Young's I Contain Multitudes, 765 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: which is all about the It's about microbes and the microbiome, 766 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: and it's just fascinating. I mean, the dimensions of ramifications 767 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: posed by gut flora within humans specifically, but microbes all 768 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: around us generally are are just unbelievable. Alright, Well, on 769 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: that note, we're going to take another break, and when 770 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to discuss some of the 771 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: notable toots of the Animal Kingdom. Thank thank Alright, we're 772 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: back now, Robert. There is a book that I know 773 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: you have been super psyched about ever since we got 774 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: a copy. Yes, uh, and I've actually just in the 775 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: past couple of days we decided to do this episode first, 776 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: But since then I've noticed in the past couple of 777 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: days on the Internet other people are catching onto this book. Yes, 778 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: it's making a buzz, that's right. The name of the 779 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: book is Does It Fart? The Definitive Field Guide to 780 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: Animal Flatulence by Nick Caruso and Danny Rabbiotti, illustrated by 781 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: Ethan co Chak. It's uh, it's been a bit of 782 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: a hit in my household thus far as you can. 783 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: This is one of those books that you can just 784 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: flip through it land on any particular page and there'll 785 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: be a profile of a specific animal. It's it's very 786 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: easily digestible, Yes, very easily digestible. It has some just 787 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: delightful illustrations. Uh. And I've been reading sections of it 788 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: to my wife, to my five year old son, to myself, 789 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: and it's it's tremendous fun. So I highly recommend getting 790 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: a copy of this. I'll make or there's a link 791 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: to it on the landing page for this episode is 792 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: stuff to Blow your Mind dot Com. Well, let's talk 793 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: about a few examples, all right. Well first, uh, yeah, 794 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: a few examples of just exceptional tutors in the animal Kingdom. Uh. 795 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: The first one I want to profile here is that 796 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: the West Indian manateee. I was really impressed with this 797 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: one because we've discussed manatees a couple of times on 798 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: the podcast this year, and I've I've recently got to 799 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: see some both in the wild and and in an 800 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: aquarium setting, but I had not heard this particular tidbit. 801 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: The authors point out that quote, the manatees and testines 802 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: have small pouches throughout that allow for gas storage. This 803 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: unusual anatomy allows the West Indian manateee to manipulate its 804 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: farts as a mechanism for buoyancy. By storing gas within 805 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 1: specific areas of their intestines, manatees can make their bodies 806 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: more buoyant and float towards the surface, while the compression 807 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: and release of flatulence makes these animals sink. Amazing. Yeah, 808 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: so they're they're it's it's almost like they're these these 809 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: fart powered blimps flying through the ocean. Uh. And they 810 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: point out that in fact, if if a manity is constipated, 811 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: it screws everything up and will often float with their 812 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: tail too high because there's too much gas built up there. 813 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: Throws off the blancy. You know, I was flipping through 814 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 1: this morning and I found a section on iguanas, and 815 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: so I was that that intrigued me Iguanas. Sometimes they've 816 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: got this look in their face like I don't fart, 817 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: look a little proud. Yeah. Yeah, but they're they're lying. 818 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: They're lying to you, because iguanas do fart, like geckos 819 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: and other lizards, they fart. The Rhinoceros iguana or Cyclora cornuda, 820 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,959 Speaker 1: they apparently tend to produce quote wet sounding farts, uh, 821 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: and they fart more when they have high fiber diets 822 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense, or lots of parasitic infestation. Green iguanas, 823 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: which are popular pets, are herbivorous, which means more farts, 824 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: and iguana owners have actually commented pretty often that their 825 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: lizards produce loud fart steering defecation. One that I found 826 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: interesting was the termite. You don't they might not think 827 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: about farting termites, but here's the thing. They're kind of 828 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: super farters and according to the authors here, they produced 829 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: five to nineteen percent of global methane emissions. Yeah, is 830 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: that possible? Or point to seven percent of greenhouse emissions. Termites, Yeah, amazing. Yeah, 831 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: just in there, munch in wood and tuting. Now they 832 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: also get into dinosaurs a little bit, specifically talking about sauropods. 833 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: So as we'll discuss, birds do not fart, so it's 834 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: possible that they're dino ancestors did not either. But sara pods, however, 835 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: these are the you know, the gigantic uh plant eating 836 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: engines of of prehistoric times. They likely depended on hindgut 837 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: fermentation to break down those massive meals, resulting in quite 838 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: a bit of gas. The author's point to one studies 839 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: estimate of one point nine kilograms of methane per sauropod 840 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: per day. Now, speaking of methane producing herbivores, I think 841 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: we should look at the cow. There's actually a section 842 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: on the cow in this book, but I also did 843 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: some extra research on the cow because obviously the cow farts. 844 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: But you might be surprised to find out how because 845 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: you might have heard that, for example, cows are a 846 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: major source of greenhouse gas emissions, and whether that's true defend, 847 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: depends on how you define major. But it is true 848 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: that methane and other gas emissions do contribute to climate change. 849 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: There was a report produced by the UN Food and 850 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: Agriculture Organization, and it estimated that in two thousand eleven, 851 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: methane emissions from livestock accounted for thirty nine percent of 852 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: all greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture. Now that's from agriculture, 853 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: not thirty nine of total emissions from all sources. And 854 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: just to put that in context, according to an analysis 855 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: by the U s d a UH, they estimated that 856 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: agricultu sure accounts for about ten percent of US greenhouse 857 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 1: gas emissions, So that'd bet of ten percent. And among 858 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: that thirty nine percent of agricultural emissions produced by livestock, 859 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: a full seventy four percent came from cattle. There was 860 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: from beef cattle, and nineteen percent from dairy cattle, and 861 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: the rest were from things like buffalo and sheep and goats. Now, 862 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of this gas production comes down to the 863 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: cows herbivorous diet and digestion method which Caruso and Rabbiati 864 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: say can produce between a hundred and two hundreds of 865 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: methane emissions per cow per year. And when you're measuring 866 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: in kilograms, you're you're thinking about a gas, So it's 867 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: like that much gas weighing that much. It's kind of 868 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: hard to fathom. But you might have often heard this 869 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: idea or this line of thinking summarized as, Wow, cow 870 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: farts are really contributing to climate change. Although cows do fart, 871 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 1: the majority of their emissions comes here's the kicker, not 872 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: from farts, but through the other end of the cow, 873 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: straight out the mouth. So cows expel a great deal 874 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: of methane through burps and through simple exhalation when they 875 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: were when they're breathing. And some researchers think cow emissions 876 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: can be curbed by altering their diet in targeted ways, 877 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: such as like feeding them different types of seaweed that 878 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: inhibit the production of gut methane. But they've got this 879 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: ruminant digestion method right, and so they end up just 880 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: spitting out a lot of carbon dioxide, methane and greenhouse 881 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: gasses from the mouth. Well, you know that leads in 882 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: nicely to the first of a few notable abstainers we're 883 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: going to mention here from the book, Does it fart? 884 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: You mean animals that do not fart? Yeah, or may 885 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: not fart in some cases that the science is still out. 886 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,479 Speaker 1: But the first is the sloth. So sloth, I don't 887 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: believe it. Slots must fart. You just look into their 888 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: sort of lazy eyes and you just assume that there's 889 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 1: some farts going on. My ignorant intuition trumps any science 890 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: on this matter. I know sloths fart, all right. Well, 891 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing. According to the author's sloths, of course, 892 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: are famously slow, and they boast incredibly slow digestion, As 893 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: many as five days can pass between their poops, at 894 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: which time, of course, they often climbed down from the 895 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: tree print canopy to do their defecation. And they have 896 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 1: an incredibly leafy diet as well, and simplified gut flora 897 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't produce flatus, it produces methane, but the methane 898 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: is absorbed in the sloth's blood and is breathed out. Wow. 899 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 1: So the takeaways here, Uh, sloths maybe the only mammals 900 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: that don't fart. We'll discuss another possible mammal or variety 901 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: of mammal in a second. And it also gives me 902 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: hope that the giant sloth megathereum breathed fire oh along 903 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: the lines of the dead snake. Yeah, like maybe it was. 904 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how it would get that spark. The 905 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: spark is the hard part. But if you have a 906 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: giant sloth breathing out a bunch of methane, then there's 907 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: there's hope for fire breathing. I'm trying to imagine how 908 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: it would happen. What would you have, Like you'd have 909 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: a megatherium who had a symbiotic relationship with some kind 910 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: of commensile bombardier beetle. Maybe that like spits some kind 911 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: of hot compound in front of its mouth right as 912 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: it was exhaling, and then you got the fire coming out. Yeah, 913 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying, yeah, or I don't know, some sort of 914 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: like uh, you know, flint based like scraping of rocks. 915 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: I get carries them around in its mouth. But we're 916 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: getting into dragon territory on this. Well, you mentioned another 917 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: mammal doesn't fart, or at least possibly doesn't fart. I 918 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 1: want to know what that is, all right, Well, yeah, 919 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: this would be and that this is an open question. 920 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: But possibly the bat so their mammals, and so they 921 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: have the right gut bacteria to produce flatus, but their 922 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: digestion is rather speedy to cut down on weight for flight. 923 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 1: The authors point out that even the largest species of bat, 924 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: the so called flying fox fruit bat, has a mouth 925 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: to anus digestion time of twelve to thirty four minutes. 926 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy that that is fast. And also, if you've 927 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 1: never seen what a flying fox fruit bat looks like, 928 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: just look up a flying fox. These things are too 929 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: big to have wings, or at least too big to 930 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: be mammals to have wings. I guess there might be 931 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: bigger birds. I don't know. They're huge. They are very 932 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: sizeable creatures. And the idea that they're digesting their food 933 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: and around thirty minutes or less is incredible. One. When 934 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: you see a flying fox hanging upside down, you're kind 935 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: of tempted to think that this could be the inspiration 936 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: for like the idea of bats's vampires, because they don't 937 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: they look kind of like people. Yeah, they have this 938 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 1: like humanoid like, like a loupine appearance. Now, the other 939 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: major category of note here are the birds. Birds don't fart. 940 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: They have all the right, you know, bits of their anatomy, 941 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: but they lack the gut bacteria to produce the gas. 942 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: So the authors of does It Fart? They mentioned a 943 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three observation by a Cornell graduate student by 944 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: the name of Alan Richard vice Broad, who described a 945 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: quote small puff of whitish gas uh during a blue 946 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: jay's defecation, but experts later that they argue that, like, 947 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: you were basically just observing warm water vapor in the 948 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: cool air, and this was not a fart. It's like 949 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: when you can see your breath, right, that's not a fart. Yeah, 950 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean really, when you come down to the like 951 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: the scientific observation of farts, like that's how do you 952 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 1: how do you see that? It's kind of like trying 953 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: to see a ghost. That's why you have to have 954 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: rectal tubes and whatnot. I mean, is there really a 955 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: reason to inflict rectal tubes on blue jays? No? I mean, 956 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: especially since everyone seems to agree that birds do not fart, 957 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: So let's not go inserting any tubes that aren't strictly 958 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: necessary for science. Robert, this has been such a wonderful exploration. 959 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: It has. This has been a fun one. We got 960 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: from demons to jesters to sloths. I don't know how 961 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: this happened, but it happened. And here we are closing 962 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: the fabled fartonomicon at least for now. Uh, we would 963 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: ask our listeners, Hey, would you like to hear more 964 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: about the science of farts? Uh than let us know? 965 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's more. I'm sure there's more, A deeper 966 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: dive into a medieval fart literature perhaps, uh. And also, 967 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from any of those nearer toothless 968 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: individuals that we referenced earlier. Are you one of those 969 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: rare individuals who produces a little or no uh um, 970 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: hydrogen or methane in your flatus? Are you in space 971 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: right now? Let us know we would love to hear 972 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: from you. We're just inviting people to lie to us. Yeah, 973 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: I don't fart. Yeah, I wonder how much lying is 974 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: perpetrated around flash lens. It has to be one of 975 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: the major contributors, surely. Yeah. Yeah. So Hey. In the meantime, 976 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: go to stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. That's 977 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: where you'll find all the episodes of the podcast, including 978 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: this one, with links to some of these books we 979 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: were referencing. Uh. Also, I'm going to try and put 980 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: together some sort of a gallery to go along with 981 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: this episode, because we've referenced some fabulous works of art here. 982 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I can collect a few examples for you, uh 983 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: and hey, it's stuff to blow your mind dot com. 984 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: You will also find links going out to our various 985 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: social media accounts such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, et CETERA. 986 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: Huge thank you as always to our wonderful audio producers 987 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: Alex Williams and Tory Harrison. 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We call upon your 997 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: infernal names Satan, Beelzebub, fld Astok, Fartha, met Toots for 998 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: Real Zies, Barbara Rigmus, Crepitus, rip One and Toots offer 999 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: arise from the depths of thy cosmic privy and give 1000 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: us a sign of thy power.