1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: voter number eighty six, Rob Parker. Welcome into Inside the Parker. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Parker. What a show we have 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: for you. We're breaking down barriers. We have Lonnie Murray, 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the first African American female certified player agent. She joins 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: us on the program. Plus will preview to Philadelphia Phillies. 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: That and much more. We're first getting Row up to 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: lead off. It's getting robbed and keep him on. Rob's 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Number one, the baseball schedule is out. We're a couple 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: of weeks away to perhaps just maybe Opening Day July. 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Twee the Yankees and the Nationals in the day game, 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: and then you have the nightcap the Giants and the Dodgers. 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: So we're ready for baseball, well, not all of us. 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: There were some players who have opted out. At last 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: count it was nine. There were some other guys on defence, 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: we already know, like David Price from the Dodgers and 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Nick Markakis is not going to partake. And you know what, 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I give everybody a pass if they don't want to play, 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: if they have health concerns. Uh. You know, if Mike 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: Trout his wife is expecting a baby and he wants 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: to be cautious and not jeopardize the health of his child. 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: All of those reasons are good reasons. And there's no reason, 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: uh to bash a guy because they bow out during 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: this time with the pandemic. I'm all for it. The 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: people who want to join in and want to give 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: it a shot and play, my hats off to them. 31 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: But I respect the people who don't want to play 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: as well. Number two, we saw the big news, We 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: saw the headlines. That's right, Patrick Mahomes got cashed out 34 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: a five hundred and three million dollar contract, at least 35 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: on paper. You know, his dad used to be a 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: major league pitcher, Pat Mahomes. But yes, Patrick Mahomes just 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: broke the bank in the NFL, or so they say, 38 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: or kids pull up a chair or is it still 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Mike Trout's contract four hundred and twenty six million with 40 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the Angels, which contract is better. I hate to break 41 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: it to the NFL ER's it's the Major League Baseball 42 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: contract of Mike Trout. It's all guaranteed cheddar. Remember it's 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: always better with the cheddar. They're all kinds of stipulations 44 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: and questions and things that have to be triggered, triggered 45 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: in the Mahomes deal and make it worth that, and 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: the chances of him still playing in Kansas City twelve 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: years from now just aren't really realistic. Basically, it's only 48 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty three million somewhere in that neighborhood 49 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: that's fully guaranteed. All the rest is maybe, would have, 50 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: could have, should have maybe. But when it comes to baseball, 51 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: I'll give the players Union and the players credit. They 52 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: get all their money guaranteed, So no matter what happens 53 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: to Mike Trout, he will get paid in full, every 54 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: nickel of that four hundred and twenty six million dollars. 55 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: That's something to think about if you're deciding to play 56 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: football or baseball. Number three Major League Baseball umpire Cowboy 57 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Joe West has made a lot of bad calls or 58 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: some bad calls in his career behind the plate and 59 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: on the field, but this one is definitely foul. Somehow, 60 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: some way, the sixty seven year old umpire who has 61 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: decided to uh umpire during the coronavirus as Major League 62 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: Baseball gets ready to get its season started on July, 63 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: had some strange words and comments about RONA Cowboy Joe 64 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: West somehow, some way says that he doesn't believe that 65 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the U S Corona deaths are actually from the coronavirus. 66 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I cannot figure out. And of course there have been 67 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: pushed back to Joe West and his comments. That's why 68 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: he's saying he's going to be a part of it. Roughly, 69 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: Cowboy Joe West, over a hundred and thirty thousand people 70 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: in the United States have died from um UH related 71 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to the coronavirus. UH, it seems kind of weird. His 72 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: direct quote was quote, I don't believe in my heart 73 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: that all these deaths have been from the coronavirus. That's 74 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna be behind the plate calling balls 75 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: and strikes. I'm not so sure if I can buy 76 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: into a cowboy Joe West and uh his thought process. 77 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Here comes the big interview. Listen Hendler. Good, All right, 78 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: let's welcome to the podcast. Lonnie Murray, the first African 79 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: American female Major League Baseball Players Association certified player agent. 80 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, Lonnie, absolutely, And I'm just going 81 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: to let people know that your husband is Dave Stewart, 82 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the former Major League pitchers, so people know your love 83 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: for baseball, right or why is right? That's right? So 84 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: tell me as how did you get involved in the 85 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: aging game? When uh, things went bad between David and 86 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays back in the day, he decided at 87 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: that point he didn't want um or was not going 88 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to work out on the MLB side given the disparities, 89 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: and um, so he wants to be on the other side. 90 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: And so putting our heads together, let's let's represent players, 91 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: let's be on the other side. And uh, for you 92 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: to get involved, what what were you doing that changed 93 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: where you thought this would be a great idea and 94 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: you know how hard it is to get certified and 95 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: then aren't that many women, especially a black woman. Did 96 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: you think about that or any of those barriers that 97 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe it wouldn't be that easy. No, never thought of it. 98 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: So you just decide I'm gonna go go through with it, 99 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: and this is what I want to do. You do 100 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: what you gotta do, and if you're doing it for 101 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: the right reason, nothing is going to stop you from 102 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: doing it or getting it done. Can you name some 103 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: of the players to give me some names of players 104 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: that you you guys have represented throughout the years. Chad Billingsley, 105 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: who are most proud of UM doing great now with 106 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: the family, was with the Dodgers. UM currently Bruce Maxwell. 107 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm very happy about him. He put me on the spot. 108 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: I know somebody's gonna get feel left out when I 109 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: don't say there. I know you can't name all right 110 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: that that is that? That is uh awesome you just 111 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: mentioned Maxwell. He's a unique person. Obviously, he was one, 112 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I think the only baseball player who kneeled U during 113 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: the national anthem. And currently he's not with the team. 114 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Is there a chance that he could get picked up? Yes, yes, UM, 115 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: there is one team that's in discussed that we're in 116 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: discussion with right now and UM and fairness to the 117 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Oakland Athletics, they did UM extend an offer to him 118 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: prior to this season beginning UM, but Bruce wanted to 119 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: help bring the Monclova eh Ros back to another championship 120 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: this year, so he declined Okay, so there was an 121 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: opportunity for him. That's good UH information and knowledge. Our 122 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: guest is Lonnie Murray. She is a the first African 123 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: American female who is a certified by the Players Union 124 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: UH agent in Major League Baseball. UH. Talk about this 125 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: year's draft. Did you have anybody of note who was drafted? 126 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Please tell us Isaiah Green second round with the Mess, 127 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: Anthony Walters third rounds. I'll sit with the Mess. L J. 128 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Jones in the fifth round with the Cardinals, and then 129 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: several free agent signs. That's that's that's a nice that's 130 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: a nice haul there. Talk talk about the difference between 131 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: we just saw the big contract for Patrick Mahomes. Of 132 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: course his dad played in the major leagues. But Patrick 133 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: Mahomes UH in the NFL with the Chiefs five hundred 134 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and three million, even though when you pull back the 135 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: UH pulled back the covers, only about a hundred and 136 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: sixty three is guaranteed. Talk about the difference between the 137 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: NFL and Major League Baseball, where when you signed a 138 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: deal and your Bruce and your Mike Trout you get yes. Period. 139 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: That's the interesting part and probably why I wouldn't get 140 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: involved in some representation. I don't even know how those 141 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: as and you know how you go about getting paid 142 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: um or or counting on payments. No, it definitely is 143 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: tough when you think about it. Uh, the leagues are 144 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: so opposite. But Lannie her business is called it's a 145 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: San Diego based firm called Sports Management Partners. And if 146 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: anybody's interested. People always as a sportswriter, people always ask 147 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: me about trying to get into that business. What advice 148 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: would you have for somebody who wants to be an 149 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: agent and and what are the steps? Go to amateur games? 150 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: I would recommend that and start learning how to scout players, 151 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: get well versed in that, and then start making relationships 152 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: within the industry and that can start at the ground 153 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: level with area scouts at the game, then start working 154 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: your way up to pro games. Know what it is 155 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. Absolutely, And last thing when it 156 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: comes to baseball, where did you grow up and what 157 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: team did you like growing up? Oh? I grew up 158 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: in Washington State, So it was the Mariners and Ken 159 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: Griffy Jr. Right, So work at the Kingdom your Kingdome. Yeah, 160 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: that wasn't the greatest place for a baseball game, but 161 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior, What what did you do there at 162 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: the Kingdome? We opened Starbucks when I was one of two. 163 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: Weird that it was a small little closet that they 164 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: made into a Starbucks booth to see if it was 165 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna work or not. That is unbelievable. Did you think 166 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: when you first tried the Starbucks that that it was 167 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: going to be that as big as it turned into 168 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: a not? Oh, I hated coffee. I thought it was terrible, 169 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: and I got to tell you years later. Um, I 170 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: had the opportunity through Tony Lorusa to meet Howard Schult 171 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: so it was pretty you finding how life comes still circle, 172 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, her name is Lonnie Murray and we'll 173 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us much success, continued success here on 174 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: the inside the Park of Podcast. Thanks for having me. 175 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: It's time for the Pocket Protector Centry. The analytic numbers 176 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: you need to know. Well, maybe Anthony Masterson is his name, 177 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: b S Analytics is his game. What do you got 178 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: for me, Anthony? A right. Projections are a big part 179 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: of sports. We always want to predict what's going to 180 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: happen next to make ourselves sound smarder, you know, let's 181 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: talk about our friends at Baseball Perspectives, one of the 182 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: titans of the stats industry. Now, they own a proprietary 183 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: system called PAKODA or Player Empirical Comparison and Optimization Test Algorithm. Yes, 184 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: it is very much catchier has an acronym. Now what 185 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: does PAKODA do Well? It takes a player's past performance 186 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: and try to project the most likely outcome them for 187 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: the following season. Its path doesn't just follow them through 188 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: the basic numbers. It's the numbers that make up the 189 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: numbers that make up the numbers, etcetera, and ceter up 190 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: to find the ones that are the most repeatable and 191 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: which one will probably a little bit lucky batting average 192 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: on ballton play or bat that that can vary greatly 193 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: from year to year strike out wright Lot's more sustainable 194 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and it's not just for players either. Baseball Perspectives takes 195 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: PACODA and projects it towards their standings, trying to predict 196 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: playoff odds for teams based on the said system. Now, 197 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: what do the PACODA standings say about the season, however 198 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: abbreviated it may be, Well, it loves the Yankees, Twins 199 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: and Asters in the a L No surprise there, each 200 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: with a seventy chance or better of winning their respective divisions. 201 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Now in the n L, the Dodgers own the West 202 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: with a ninety nine point six percent chance of winning 203 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: the division, but they also have a pair of surprising 204 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: entrance winning the East End Central, as the Mets and 205 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: reds own. The best odds is to take the crown. 206 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Now when it all plays out, Rob, don't be shocked 207 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: if Paco to head it right all along. Now it's 208 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: time for some diamond dust with wish TVs. Phil Sanchez. 209 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: He played baseball in college. Now here is MLB knowledge. 210 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: So there were two stories this week, Rob that really 211 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: grabbed my attention. One is the Cleveland Indians and the 212 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: possibility of changing the team's name. This after the Washington 213 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Redskins announced they are finally considering changing their name. Well, 214 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland manager Terry Francona sounds like he's on board with 215 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: the name change. Francona told reporters that although the organizations 216 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: in trying to be disrespectful, it's time to quote move forward. 217 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: So if the tribe does actually move forward, what should 218 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the futured name of the team be. Well, of course 219 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you can bet on that and the odds on favorite 220 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: is the napst which was the team's name prior to 221 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: becoming the Indians back in nineteen fifteen. Of the name 222 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: was in honor of former second baseman Nap Lejoy. Meanwhile, 223 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: is there a chance that Nashville, Tennessee would be landing 224 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: a landing spot for an expansion team? Starting to look 225 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: like that? So much so that former Red Sox manager 226 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski is moving to the Music City to help 227 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: make it happen. Dobrowski is joining Music City Baseball, which 228 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: was formed in with the goal of bringing an expansion 229 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: franchise to Nashville in the next few years. The group 230 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: is hoping to become the first MLB team with African 231 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: American majority ownership. Also a part of Music City Baseball 232 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: former twenty game winner and GM Dave Stewart and Hall 233 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:38,479 Speaker 1: of Fame manager Tony LaRussa. When Rob was a newspaper columnist, 234 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: he lived by this motto. If I'm writing, I'm ripping, 235 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Let's bring in a writer a broadcaster older new all right, 236 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: let's welcome to the podcast. Scott Lauber, who covers the 237 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies for the Philadelphia in choir. Welcome to the podcast. Scott, Hey, Rob, 238 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: how you doing doing great? Let's talk about these last 239 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: year eighty one and eighty one did not make the playoffs. 240 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Made some changes. The biggest one, of course, Joe Girardi 241 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: is now the manager of the Phillies. Tell me what 242 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of effect he could have on this team. Well, 243 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: they certainly think he can have a big effect. UM. 244 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: If you look at some of the changes that they 245 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: made around him. You know, they brought in Zach Wheeler, 246 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: who's an accomplished picture with UH, had been with the Mets. 247 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: UH signed him for a lot of money, a hundred 248 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: and eighteen million dollars, and then they brought in D. D. Gregorious, 249 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: veteran shortstop on a one year deal. Otherwise, it's really 250 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: the same club they had last year. So they believe 251 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Girardi can help make the difference between a five hundred 252 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: club and one that's going to have a shot at 253 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. UH. They look at him as a 254 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: guy who spent ten years in New York. You do that, 255 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: you come in, you bring a certain amount of I 256 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: think gravitas and respect to the position. UH. In spring training, 257 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: we saw that right away that UM It wasn't necessarily 258 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: a evastly different camp, uh in terms of what they 259 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: were doing on the field, but it just felt a 260 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: little bit different. It felt like it was a bit 261 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: of a maybe a tighter ship a little bit um. Uh, 262 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: it felt like it was a little um. There was 263 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: some professionalism that was brought in, uh, just the way 264 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: he does things, and I think players responded to that. 265 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: So they're hoping, especially over a short sprint like this, 266 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: that the manager can make a big difference. We'll we'll 267 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: see exactly how much that manifest up on the field. 268 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Thought you mentioned Wheeler coming in. What about Jake ariott U, 269 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that they really need to 270 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: bounce back. Yeah, I mean they sure do. And you know, 271 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: Arietta likes point to you know, the fact that over 272 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: the last two seasons with the Phillies, when he's been healthy, uh, 273 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: he's he's been relatively effective. That's actually true. I mean 274 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: if you look at it, um, two years ago and uh, 275 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: he was doing uh, he was actually having a really 276 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: good season two thirds of the way through. Then he 277 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: hurt his knee his last six or eight weeks of 278 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: the season. We're just a disaster and they color his 279 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: numbers last year. You know, he pitches UH for a 280 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: good deal of the middle of the season with a 281 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: bone spur and his elbow has to have surgery and 282 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: shut it down. Um, So when he's been healthy, he's 283 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: been all right. They need him to be more than 284 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: all right. He's their number three starter behind Nola and Wheeler. 285 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: They need him to make his twelve starts this year 286 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it is he's gonna get, and they need 287 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: him to do it, UH, to do it well. They 288 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: don't need him to be the Jake Garrietta of sixteen 289 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: with the Cubs, but they need a guy who's gonna 290 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: be steady, who's gonna make all of those starts, and 291 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: who's gonna keep them in games and give him a 292 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: chance to win it. Where is Andrew McCutcheon. Will he 293 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: be ready to play for UH this sixty game season? Yeah? 294 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: You know, I think if if anyone benefited from the 295 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: delayed start, it was Andrew McCutcheon. He would not have 296 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: been ready on day one on March twenty six if 297 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: they had started in time. He had major knee surgery 298 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: last year, a c L repair. Not a whole lot 299 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: of baseball players get that, um, you know, have that 300 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: injury and get that surgery. You hear about it a 301 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: lot more in the NBA. In the NFL, Uh, he 302 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been ready. They didn't think he was going 303 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: to be too too delayed. But you know, the shutdown 304 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: gave him a chance to complete his rehab. He's now 305 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: more than a year post op. Uh, he's gonna be 306 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: ready for opening Day. Just watching the last few days, 307 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: he does look to be moving around a little bit 308 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: better than he was in spring training. But he's missed 309 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time. Um, you know, he didn't have 310 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: the last three months of last year, so you know, 311 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: will certainly see what kind of player he is coming back. 312 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: But you know, he even made the point that a 313 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: sixty game season might help him as well, because not 314 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: only will he uh will he does? He has he 315 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: had the full year to recover, but he also doesn't 316 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: have to worry about getting through hundred and sixty two 317 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: games grind either. He can kind of he can kind of, 318 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, get back into this and sprint to the 319 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: finish and let it all go for sixty games and 320 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: see what happens. Our guest has Scott Loudber from the 321 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Inquiry covers the Phillies and UH, give me a 322 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: name of some young player or rookie or somebody who 323 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: could have an impact that we don't know about. So 324 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: the two names that uh pop to mind right away, 325 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: of course are Spencer Howard and Alec Boam. Boam is 326 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: a third baseman. Uh has a lot of power. Probably 327 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: would have made his debut at some point this year anyway, 328 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: would not have been on the opening day roster, but 329 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: he should be a factor here, especially with the advent 330 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: of the designated hitter, you know, the National League, you 331 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: don't build your team with that in mind. So he's 332 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna have that bats, whether it's a third base or 333 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: d h at some point during the sixty game season. Uh. 334 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: He the guy that they're hoping will be their third 335 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: basement of the future, and the future maybe speeds up 336 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: a little bit now, uh for him. Howard is a pitcher, 337 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: was a guy that Phillies were concerned about in spring 338 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: training because he only threw about ninett little over ninety 339 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: innings last year um with an injury. Uh, they were 340 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: hopeful that he would help them at some point this season, 341 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: but they were trying to figure out how can we 342 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: maximize his impact? Um, given the innings restriction that he 343 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: would have been on, Well, that's out the window now 344 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: because it's a sixty game season. Uh, it's possible he's 345 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: inserted into the starting rotation at some point early on, 346 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: and they look at him like Bom as a guy 347 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: who's going to be a big part of their future. 348 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: So I think that gets sped up for him as well, 349 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: and you could see him make I don't know if 350 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: he'll make you know, a full twelve starts, but he 351 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: could make eight to ten and and if he can 352 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: make eight to ten good starts, that will help give 353 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: the rotation a lift. Last thing, will the Phillies make 354 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs? Yes? Or no? I'm gonna tell you no. Um, 355 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. I think their schedule is 356 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: just an absolute bear. You know, the America as a 357 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: nationally geast in and of itself. You've got the defending 358 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: champs and the Gnats, You've got the Braves and you've 359 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: got the Mets, all really good teams. Now throwing the 360 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: American League East, you're playing the Yankees, Uh four times, 361 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: you're playing the Raise six times. You finish with the 362 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: Rays down in Tampa. You're playing the Red Sox. Uh. 363 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: I believe it's four times, So you've got a really, 364 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: really tough schedule here. I'm gonna tell you no. But uh, 365 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: you know again, I think they'll be in that thirty 366 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: three thirty the thirty three win range, and if you're 367 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: in that range, you're gonna be a bubble team. So 368 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: I think they're on the bubble. But strength of schedule 369 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I think is again working against them. His name Scott 370 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Louberg from the Philadelphia in Choir. Appreciate you, thanks for 371 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: joining the podcast anytime Rob that it was a big 372 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: week in a big league? Is it followed or is 373 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: it fair? And now here's Shadow League dot Com MLB 374 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: insider Jr gambo alright, j R. So far nine players 375 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: have opted out of the MLB season, and superstar Mike 376 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Trout is considering not playing because his wife is expecting 377 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: their first child and he's unsure about the safety of 378 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: playing during the pandemic. Is it foul or is it 379 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: fair that Trout is considering not playing? That's that is 380 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: a foul ball. That's like Lebron bailing out on the 381 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: NBA season. She leaven have one at that point. While 382 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic has definitely spread there across fourt and it's 383 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: been established that players are taking some health risks once 384 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: the season was signed off on. However, now the best 385 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: players and see a guy considered one of the greatest 386 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: players of all time to play. It's almost typical Trout 387 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: like pay me for a few millions to play on 388 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: the team that doesn't win, doesn't make the playoffs. That 389 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: don't expect me to do any commercials or pr to 390 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: help elevate the game or be a face of baseball 391 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: because of conduct shine I'm not really is to lead 392 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: it baseball into the next generation just getting paid like it. 393 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: You have to want the game. Question trout leadership there, 394 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: for it isn't like the NBA where you have superstars 395 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: oozing out of every game. MLB hasn't been on a 396 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: constant search for another Ken Griffey Jr. Type personality and 397 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: try and desperately to keep the cultural connection with the 398 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: younger generation. Trout is actually a name that they know, 399 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: and for him to consider not playing shows that these 400 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Then touring bastor for the game if 401 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: something Trout remains uninterested in and will continue to hurt 402 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: the sport. I know trout needs to be the for 403 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: the birth of his child, but not enough people will 404 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: play with no thing it can survives playing without any 405 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: start take out the favor, then the trash. It's time 406 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: for trash talk Twitter, Twitter with your chance to trash 407 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: anyone or anything in Major League Baseball. This week's winner 408 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: is Jasonatra. He tweeted me this the coward lack of 409 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: leadership frat that are hashtag MLB owners for not only 410 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: collectively but as individuals not coming out and offering one 411 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: ounce of support to Black Lives Matter or racial equality. 412 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Since George Floyd there'll be more than happy to count 413 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: the black money purchases of jerseys, fitts, and tickets. Though, 414 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: if you want to win a new era snapback hat, 415 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: hit me up. Trash anyone or anything in the world 416 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: of baseball, and if we use your tweet next week, 417 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you could win, just like j Sonatra. Now bringing the closer, 418 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: here's why MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, 419 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: and it isn't even close. The reason that baseball is 420 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: better than the NBA in the NFL is example right here. 421 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: As we get ready to restart the games, hopefully even 422 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: with the restarting of the NBA, people pretty much the 423 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: same teams that we're expected to win, you know, like 424 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Lakers, or the Bucks are still the 425 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: teams that most people believe. It's still gonna be crowned 426 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the NBA champion when this is all said and done, 427 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: you know, and that Mickey Mouse Bubble Championship is crowned 428 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: in Orlando. But when you talk about baseball and you 429 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: talk about just the sixty game season and all the 430 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: things that can happen, I'm not so sure that everybody's 431 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: convinced that the Dodgers and Yankees, the two best teams 432 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: on paper at least, will be the last two teams standing. 433 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Baseball is definitely different because you don't know what kind 434 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: of pitching you're gonna get. You don't know if hitters 435 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: are gonna be in a slop. Somebody might stumble out 436 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: of the game when you're talking about sixty games. So 437 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting. This will be interesting. It 438 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: will not be the same old, same old, And I 439 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: think that's what you're gonna get when you talk about 440 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs. In the words of New York TV 441 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Legend of Late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time 442 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: this time until next time. Rob Parker out he can't. 443 00:27:50,680 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: This could be an inside the Parker as peal as 444 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: the pre Christials