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Speaker 5: All right, welcome back to another episode of five to

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Speaker 5: twenty Films. We got a special guest today. We're introduced

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Speaker 5: some last I'm your host, Coach Lou. We got Coach

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Speaker 5: moved to the far left, to my right, we got

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Speaker 5: Coach Jeff. Special guest today. We got Coach t and

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Speaker 5: the bill.

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Speaker 4: Now you're doing glad to be here.

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Speaker 6: I even put on this move doctor love voice, How

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Speaker 6: you were just talking?

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Speaker 5: Ivery thought we'd get you out here. Man, we appreciate

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Speaker 5: you for coming, I said, we started this, were just

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Speaker 5: a bunch of old, washed up guys. Okay't hope no more.

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Speaker 4: So we just man, it can be more watched.

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Speaker 5: So I asked the guys, you know, were when they

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Speaker 5: come in here? When did you know it was time

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Speaker 5: to hang up the shoes? How old were.

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Speaker 4: I think that I never really hung the shoes up, hanging, hanging,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, those playing days if I was still playing

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Speaker 4: in leagues and things not kind of like these guys

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Speaker 4: are doing now. But I hung in there too, about

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Speaker 4: forty around forty somewhere around that.

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Speaker 5: Are you doing good? Yeah? I talked to mine was

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Speaker 5: twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you had a bunch of injuries.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, we got a highlights. Man, we wanted to

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Speaker 5: start off with your junior year of high school in

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Speaker 5: my state. Y'all lost this game.

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Speaker 4: I know you just say you're starting now with the

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Speaker 4: wrong highlights lost.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know there's that much footage of you.

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Speaker 5: I's one we can find that actually look look pretty decent. Oh,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna go through it, and we're gonna kind of speaking. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna walk through it.

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Speaker 7: As much as you picked my game apart.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's watch this, let me see what's going. Let's

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Speaker 5: start it off.

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Speaker 4: It start off with the steal, head hands, head hands

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Speaker 4: with the bunky.

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Speaker 6: That's a euro set.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, back in the day, you know the eurostep came

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Speaker 4: from me past thing. Yeah, trying to make sure he okay,

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Speaker 4: that's what we do. That's what we do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they had you at the high post playing man.

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Speaker 6: Look at you, big man left head.

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Speaker 8: Man too quick, got that too quick?

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Speaker 4: You see I checked that clock.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hit that.

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Speaker 6: Big man.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I shot it too soon. He had a chance

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Speaker 4: brother law. He could he could fill that thing up.

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Speaker 7: While you got twenty one on I thought it was

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Speaker 4: I changed it every couple of years.

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Speaker 6: That jumped for a week.

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Speaker 5: That jump. It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: What it like? What's the flashbacks you haven't and watching

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Speaker 6: and stuff like. Probably the I.

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Speaker 4: Think the biggest piece was everywhere we played, and definitely

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Speaker 4: when we played at home. Uh, we had to sell

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Speaker 4: our crowds. We had over Yeah, we averaged over eight

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Speaker 6: School for sure, sure, for sure.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, going back to your you know, your high

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Speaker 5: How old were you when you got started? Who kind

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Speaker 4: Well, probably around probably about third second third grade. I

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Speaker 5: What was the biggest differences between that game around that

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Speaker 4: I thought they we talked about that all the time,

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Speaker 4: your sons are really good, but they were new nobody.

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Speaker 4: They was not you, nobody, nobody, That's what it was.

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Speaker 4: You gotta take that, take it, you gotta take it.

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Speaker 4: So that's probably the biggest difference in what I see

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Speaker 4: Jeff stole one of my moves. Now, Marcus had a

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Speaker 4: lot of different moves and things, but you got, well, wait,

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Speaker 4: that move that he used to always say, that is

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Speaker 8: That is the move too, that's the move.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no move.

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Speaker 4: That's it here.

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Speaker 7: It comes special, is it.

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Speaker 5: By?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Talk about moth And it was probably about as

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Speaker 5: Change your pace, that change you said he didn't like

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Speaker 4: No, Initially he was like no, and then uh probably

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Speaker 4: trying to master that that move. Why I'm looking out

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Speaker 4: Fum yeah, getting your reps in and fumbling the ball

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Speaker 4: all over the backyard and finally he got it. Took

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Speaker 4: you all away to the all store, took him all

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Speaker 4: the last that's it and and they'll tell you that's

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Speaker 4: your signature move.

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Speaker 7: And he knew that move right now.

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Speaker 6: I got so many along home.

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Speaker 4: He does it so much that he doesn't so much

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Speaker 4: he gets mad at himself, saying, that's my dad again, Uh.

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Speaker 5: We go back to high school. Obviously you had a

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Speaker 5: great high school career Indiana All Star. Let's talk about

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Speaker 5: making that college decision.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that at that time, I was being

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Speaker 4: recruited pretty heavily. I know, uh Boston. My brother went

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Speaker 4: and uh, I know he came to see us play

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Speaker 4: after my brother kind of talked about the kind of

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Speaker 4: But I ended up going to uh McDonald's All Star

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Speaker 4: game was like that, it was the.

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Speaker 7: One I played.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't a time twenty four Okay, granted,

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Speaker 4: granted now it was the one behind it. And you

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Speaker 4: know what, you you always want this for your kids, right,

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Speaker 4: you always want them to do better than you. So

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Speaker 4: since I went to the second when I wanted to

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Speaker 4: get that done. So though, well, yeah, you didn't make that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah I don't even think you got a Plaque Player nomination.

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Speaker 8: I don't even think you got that one.

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Speaker 4: But you know, end result was really good though, So

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Speaker 5: The question was you going to Missouri.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I ended up going to Missouri. I had

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Speaker 4: going to go To missouri as, well and uh but

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Speaker 4: And missouri was coming at me pretty good at that.

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Speaker 6: That was a hundred years.

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Speaker 4: Ago that scholarship was all that you could be asking

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Speaker 5: It so was it any other school that you was

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Speaker 4: i mean there was there, was like The, drakes AND

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Speaker 4: Hunt Ball state was one of them as, well being.

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Speaker 4: Home BUT i know that night came and talked to,

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Speaker 4: me and, uh that was an interesting conversation put up on.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 4: Uh he just asked, me do you want to play AT?

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Speaker 4: Iu AND i was just kind of, like you, know

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Speaker 4: that's my. Answer then he was, gone, no he didn't

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Speaker 4: AND i really liked. That so that's WHERE i ended up.

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Speaker 6: Going, okay obviously you uh while you.

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Speaker 4: Leave, yeah, well you, KNOW i call it like it,

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Speaker 4: is and it, was you, know basically being spoiled coming

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Speaker 4: a year and you, KNOW i played well At. Missouri

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Speaker 4: it WAS i THINK i ended up starting like twenty

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Speaker 4: Coach, WELL i know WHEN i first got, there he

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Speaker 9: Doing that sounded real similar to how you be seeing

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Speaker 6: It you grew into, It, Joe.

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Speaker 8: Well, jackson.

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Speaker 3: That was after you had made your commitment TO i was,

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Speaker 4: Chilling, yeah you were running around We jeff would be playing.

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Speaker 4: Games he's running around the gym playing, tag so he wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so but you, Know jeff had really got into

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Speaker 4: know when you're running around and you know you got

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Speaker 4: that you, know, man you know he likes doing. This

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Speaker 4: neither one. MEN i THINK i can't tell you how

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Speaker 4: many times who was worst me Or jiff quit on?

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Speaker 7: Me who was worst me Or jiff to coach both

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Speaker 7: of y'all had y'all.

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Speaker 4: Angles you were technical, tigs SO i had to go,

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Speaker 4: yeah would shut down and he would be, like had

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Speaker 4: nothing to. Say so there was two different kind of approaches.

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Speaker 4: know working with other. Kids you, know you, know kids

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Speaker 4: to get the best out of him versus another. Kid so, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Playing For Rick, patino what was that? Like, LIKE i

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Speaker 3: know you said he highlighted charges and. Stuff was he

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Speaker 3: a tough? Coach was?

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Speaker 6: He and he was you have hard? Practices what was?

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Speaker 4: to get out of. You he could still do. It

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Speaker 4: he was a very young coach at that, time SO

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Speaker 4: i think he was the Youngest division one coach at that,

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Speaker 4: time and he could show you what he, wanted you,

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Speaker 4: know and what he expected out of. You so it

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Speaker 4: into that challenge with. Him and he would get in

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Speaker 4: there and he'd play against us and elbow us and

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Speaker 4: that was my chance to get back at him, Too

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Speaker 4: so you, know but he was you, know he was

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Speaker 4: no pride baby when he stepped on the, floor so

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Speaker 4: he would go at you and expect you to come

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Speaker 4: he really had a lot of respect for. That and

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Speaker 4: Demanding but you, know he was fair and he expected to,

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Speaker 4: win expected to. Win so just a really good player

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Speaker 4: and a great. Motivator he was just a great, motivator great.

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Speaker 3: MOTIVATOR i remember some stories you're telling us, about like you,

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Speaker 3: know playing With Kyrie, dad or like going Against Michael

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Speaker 3: jordan when you was At, boston and all these stories

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Speaker 3: are like how hard you?

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Speaker 3: Jet by The Boston celtics Coach Brad. Stevens AND i

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Speaker 3: remember you telling me a story about going Against Kenny.

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Speaker 6: Smith they called him. Ja what did they call?

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Speaker 4: called Gen z is a little bit. BORED i don't know.

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Speaker 4: Okay it was, Happy, okay the happy all? Right and

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Speaker 4: thanks To Gary, plumber he called they called me hap

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Speaker 4: what they call you hat bro because in their, eyes you,

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Speaker 4: know Like mattino would be getting all over, everybody and you,

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Speaker 4: KNOW i just never let that piece phase. Me AND i,

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Speaker 4: COULD i could laugh about, IT i could you, know

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Speaker 4: smile about, it and just didn't seem LIKE i could

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Speaker 4: let him get me out of my spot or out

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Speaker 4: of my. Place and so they would carry it home with,

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Speaker 4: them be, upset be, angry ready to you, know make

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Speaker 4: moves and all of, this AND i was, like, man

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Speaker 4: he's just a man like you. Are and SO i

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Speaker 4: used to kind of take it like, that and, uh you,

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Speaker 4: know they used to just think that that was just you, know,

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Speaker 4: hey being, around you, know being, happy being kind of

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Speaker 4: joyful and just well hat, Man, yeah we.

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Speaker 6: See we.

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Speaker 5: Was we was on the Elevator All Star weekend twenty,

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Speaker 5: Fifteen New, york right and it was Us terrell on

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Speaker 5: there and it Was Kyrie dad in the. Corner and

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Speaker 5: he looked At. Terrell he was, LIKE i ain't he,

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Speaker 5: down like he said Hat terrell, SAID i don't know

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Speaker 5: what you're talking. About he, Said, sean he, said all

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Speaker 5: you're talking about my? Dad he, said you look just

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Speaker 5: like your. Dad, dude where is? He AND i gotta

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Speaker 5: talk to? Him And i'm like that is. Crazy it is, Crazy.

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Speaker 4: Dredrick he. Was he was a special player for us

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Speaker 4: right out Of New. YORK i, mean you, know you

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Speaker 4: could see all the resemblance of you, Know kyrie's game

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Speaker 4: within his, game because, man he could shake you up and, down, right,

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Speaker 4: left and you could do. Everything so you, know he

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Speaker 4: was really fun to play. With you, know uh really enjoyed.

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Speaker 4: Him and you, know he was just a really really good.

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Speaker 4: Player AND i just brought a whole nother angle of

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Speaker 4: the game to.

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Speaker 5: Us, yeah we got your stats up.

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Speaker 6: Here, boy you was weak.

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Speaker 5: A thousand points corri.

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Speaker 4: Though oh yeah, yeah. Yeah you, Know.

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Speaker 5: Jeff finished tied for the most.

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Speaker 4: Career points AND i, know AND i KNOW i was

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Speaker 3: Assist, yeah the adfiference between your thousand points a. Month,

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Speaker 4: Well but that's, okay that's, okay that's all. Right, now

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Speaker 4: That you go down that school, record yeah, yeah, Conference,

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Speaker 4: yeah it hung in there for a, while but you,

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was another kid Named, jeff and he came

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Speaker 4: WELL i think that my oldest daughter started kind of

442
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 4: getting in and she was playing softball and wanted to play.

443
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 4: Basketball she was just doing a little bit of, everything

444
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 4: and THEN i was just kind of, like, Well i'm

445
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 4: a you, know just kind of kind of guide her

446
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: along in, that like most dads will, do you, know

447
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 4: especially if they're you, know sports related or you, know

448
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: really want to you, know got an inkling of a

449
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: desire to kind of get in there and coach a little.

450
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 4: Bit it always makes it easy when you have your

451
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 4: own child being able.

452
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: To, play.

453
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: Right SO i kind of did it to you, know

454
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 4: kind of get in from that, angle but not really

455
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 4: serious at that time BECAUSE i was still. Playing so

456
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: it wasn't until you, know pretty much the boys came

457
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: along with With, terrell you, Know Jeff, marcus THEN i

458
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: started kind of really you, know diving in there to coach,

459
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: more you, know in terms OF aau and not just coaching,

460
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: them but that's kind of what it. Was but initially

461
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 4: that's WHAT i. Did WHEN i started actually coaching, them

462
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: it was just kind of like breakdown, stuff breakdown drills

463
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: and kind of working with them and going to the.

464
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: Gym and ACTUALLY i remember one particular time THAT i

465
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: took all the kids with my daughter and you, know the,

466
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 4: boys and just had them do a drill, work just

467
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: you drill work in the. GYM i used to work

468
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: at this facility that had a, gym AND i used

469
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: to take them in there and we just did a

470
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: lot of work like. That so we work on things

471
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: THAT i would always consider a, weakness like their left

472
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 4: hand versus their right, hand BECAUSE i know that they

473
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: were dominant right. Handed so you, know we just did

474
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff like.

475
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 3: That what's the first thing you would say you wanted

476
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: to teach like a person who just started off on.

477
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: Basketball obviously you told us how to. Play what's the

478
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: first thing you think you need to?

479
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: Learn, like is it?

480
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 6: Shooting?

481
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 4: DRIBBLING i always thought it was. DRIBBLING i just always

482
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: thought it because regardless of how you, know bigger small

483
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: you're going to. Be if you turn out to be

484
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: six ten and you can handle the ball because you

485
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 4: started out handling the, ball your advantages are going to

486
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 4: be so much. Better all the other things can come, along,

487
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: like you, know just as it was With Jeff marcus

488
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: was a little you, know most certainly Different terrell. Was

489
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: also they seemed to be able to score the ball

490
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: a little. Differently jeff was more like an assist. Guy

491
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 4: And i'm sure like it was in high. School to,

492
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: you you were a leading, scorer And jeff was more

493
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: finding people and getting, people getting people, open and he

494
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: seemed to really like. That SO i didn't Think jeff

495
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: was ever going to be a score because that's just

496
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 4: what he seemed to gravitate, to was passing the. Ball

497
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: but you, know that became something easy for him to

498
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: develop into as being a score because of the fact

499
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 4: that he could handle the, BALL i mean get to

500
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: different spots on the. Floor, Now marcus always could get

501
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: the different spots on the. Floor he just kind of

502
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: kind of did his own, thing you.

503
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Know.

504
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: Uh he was kind of a horse without the bridal

505
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: thing or whatever you call that On, yeah, well not

506
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: That i'm talking about being able to hold on to

507
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: the horse the.

508
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 8: Straps he was a loose. Horse HE i was Like.

509
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: Marcus so we had times that it always Takes indy

510
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: heat and speech staff to talk about it all the

511
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: time when they were at The nationals and.

512
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: On the. Show who was At rafield talking about how

513
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 5: we messed.

514
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 4: Up, yeah so we what we're going to. Get, Yeah

515
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: And Jeff marcus wasn't playing the defense THAT i felt

516
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 4: he should have been. Playing and you, know of, course

517
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: coach bats who uh you, know of, Course AND i

518
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: meant to minch him as well without the. Dow he's

519
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: totally a big time mentor of. Mine but he was,

520
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: saying you coach everybody, else Leave marcus, alone please.

521
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 6: Us.

522
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: Man, yeah BUT i couldn't leave the team every, weekend,

523
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: yeah for, sure to play clearly every WEEK i mean

524
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: they were always. Quitting so you was like.

525
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 9: We would be having thirty points and you would be

526
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 9: getting on us about the smallest, thing going crazy, Though

527
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 9: Like i'm, like come, on, BRO i got, forty but

528
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 9: going nuts about the smallest.

529
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 10: Thing.

530
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: Bro BUT i knew all the importance of all of.

531
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: Them that's that's a. Fact.

532
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 6: Though you.

533
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: Know WHAT i always thought was funny that, kids obviously

534
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: he can't handled now is the way you motivated.

535
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 7: Them oh they can't take that, now you.

536
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 5: KNOW i remember one particular time we was watching somebody

537
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 5: play and you, Talked, jeff you can't do no hell

538
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: you see that? Move you can't do.

539
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 9: That well he playing. Seeds, yeah, YEAH i was readied.

540
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 9: People they don't even know what's going. On he plenty.

541
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: Seeds, WELL i used to do THE i don't even

542
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: call it, subliminal but it was just kind OF i

543
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: kind of throw it out. There AND i used to do,

544
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: this AND i most certainly did it With Jeff. Marcus

545
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: if you say something to him that ignited, him he

546
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: was ready to, go so it wasn't no. Problem so

547
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: WHAT i would do Was. JEFF i wouldn't say it

548
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: directly To. JEFF i would be talking to somebody. Else

549
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: AND i just remember one particular, situation and that was

550
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: involved In Reach. CHEATHAM i, said, man he's really really.

551
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: GOOD i, mean don't you know he's. Special AND i

552
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: just said it Around. Jeff that's ALL i, did was

553
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: just say it around. Me And i'm looking And i'm,

554
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: thinking you, know they were always pretty good and all

555
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: okay together and, everything and next thing you, Know i'm seeing.

556
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: This reaesprite didn't know what was going on Because jeff was.

557
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 8: Coming he was, coming AND.

558
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: I kept, SAYING i KNOW i planted that. ONE i

559
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: KNOW i planned that, one But jeff was like. That

560
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: he was like a silent. Assassin he wouldn't respond to.

561
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: It marcus was open mouthed on anything you. Say he.

562
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: Was he was just different like. That AND i, Say,

563
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: marcus be matter of, fact don't be quite shut, up

564
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: just shut up and. Uh but he. Couldn't he couldn't stop.

565
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: It he had to keep. Going But jeff was more

566
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: of a silent.

567
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 9: ASSASSIN i can't play right IF i, Talk, Bro i'm

568
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 9: not gonna be the same.

569
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: Player you gotta start. Talking but he did a lot of. Talking,

570
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: yeah but not like.

571
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 6: Me now you was disrespectful.

572
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 7: TALKING i could not play basketball IF i don't do.

573
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 6: That he did a lot of.

574
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: TALKING i never, understood like why he did. That but

575
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: now being a, coach like all the things THAT i

576
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: hated about you as a, COACH i like turned into.

577
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 5: That it's, FUNNY i, said all, among AND.

578
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 9: I hate it the smallest things, now all, Right, Yeah i'm,

579
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 9: like that's that's.

580
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 5: Bad that's, bad Phil, Philip, yeah that's that's.

581
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: Him, well the other piece of it is, Yeah AND

582
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: i mean that's normally what, happens you, know you, know

583
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: through your life, channels it just kind of. Goes you

584
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: take the pieces when it's time to receive. Them you,

585
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: know you don't necessarily do it at the same juncture in.

586
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: Time you just do it when it becomes relevant to

587
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: you down the, road and, so you, know and you

588
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: just take bits and.

589
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 6: Pieces you.

590
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 4: Know somebody, say who's you? Know who did you you

591
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: know model when you was coming, up you, Know And i'd,

592
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: SAY i took a piece from, everybody a little.

593
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: Piece you.

594
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: Know IF i see somebody with something THAT i felt

595
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: like could help my, GAME i would try to add

596
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: that to. It so it wasn't one, individual it was a,

597
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: collective you. Know so it's you, know and that's good to,

598
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: see you, know with with actually both of them when

599
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: it comes down to those, things you, KNOW i don't

600
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: expect them to be identically to me in no form of,

601
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: fashion but you, know to be able to take pieces

602
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: of what was, good you, know and being able to

603
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: be a part of. That, YEAH i think that's you,

604
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: know that only makes.

605
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 9: SENSE i know a lot of kids now they don't

606
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 9: really like watching game. Film but WHEN i was a,

607
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 9: kid you had me watching my friends outside. Playing i'm

608
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 9: watching tape after tape over the littlest. Stuff what's the

609
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 9: biggest thing you think kids while they.

610
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: Don't watch film and all this stuff no.

611
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: More because nobody wants to see their low. Lights they

612
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: only want to see their. Highlights they only want to

613
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: see the good things that's happening with. Them because if

614
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: you ever go through film, session you always see, that you,

615
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: know kids be LIKE i was, HUSTLING i was doing,

616
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: THIS i was doing. That and then when they see

617
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: the film and recognize they were you, know you, know

618
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: off the, mark or they didn't do, it and they

619
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: assumed that they. Did and trust, me they really believed

620
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: that they did during the, game because sometimes they assumed

621
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: that they did it only because they're tired and they're

622
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: moving and they're moving, somewhere but don't realize they're not, moving,

623
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: Right they're just moving. Somewhere and then when you see

624
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: it on, film sometimes they can't believe that they did

625
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: it and can't even recall when that. Happened and so

626
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: being able to see it and routinely watching film is

627
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: going to bring recall for the next time you have

628
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: a similar situation when the coach is telling you something

629
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden you be, like, YES

630
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: i remember that, now because WHEN i watched, FILM i

631
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: saw THAT i wasn't putting that effort into, it and

632
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: so they'll they'll it'll just bring recall to it and

633
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: put them in the right place at the right, time.

634
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 9: BECAUSE i know in COLLEGE i was playing games after

635
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 9: our first couple of film, SESSIONS i was playing a

636
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 9: game just to look good on. Film i'm playing hard

637
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 9: defense just BECAUSE i know coach to kill us on.

638
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: FILM i never got that. Memo our field sessions was,

639
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: Crazy our field sessions was.

640
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: Filthy but why at a, time never forget this With Coach.

641
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: Patino but he was one of our one of our

642
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: guys on our. Squad he he had missed the defensive.

643
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: Assignment and he was always, like, hey if you're not

644
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: playing defense with passion like we need to, have you're

645
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 4: gonna you're not gonna be. Playing but if you're giving

646
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: me that effort on the, defense you're going to always

647
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: be to play in the. Game so he kept he

648
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: ran the, tape he rewound the tape for some other,

649
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: reason and then it came back up to the, same

650
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: you know, situation and he, said and you did it

651
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: again the tape for something, else and it came up beginning,

652
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: said now you go three, times you definitely.

653
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: Won't be playing next.

654
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 8: Game you definitely won't be playing the next. Game we're

655
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 8: like the same it's the same.

656
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Place but that's you, know and that's all part of

657
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: the head, game you, know and saying if you can have, IT.

658
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: I can't say, That pop there gonna kill Your Jeff,

659
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: paul just, Say, Paul.

660
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: Paul.

661
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: All, right we got we got, Obviously jeff moved go

662
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: To Wake, Forest. Kentucky what did you like about Coach

663
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: prosser and coach Cal what made you comfortable with their

664
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: decisions to go.

665
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: There, Well i'll go With jeff. First with Coach. Prosser,

666
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: Uh Coach prosser came AND i think he did such

667
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: a great job with the recruiting piece because he never guaranteed.

668
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: Anything all he said was he had a recommendation That

669
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: jeff for somebody was looking at.

670
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Was.

671
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: Crazy heet.

672
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 8: Back to WHAT i was, before you was rudely.

673
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: Interview so but he came to an event that was

674
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: out At Warren central and he would go and he

675
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: would Watch jeff play in the first, game AND i

676
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: thought he played pretty well in the first. Game so

677
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: after the game was, over you know how all the

678
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 4: coaches sit on that sideline right in between the courts

679
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: and he was sitting in between. There and then after

680
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: the game was, over he got up and. Left So i'm, thinking,

681
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: okay he's probably going to another, gym you, know recruiting

682
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: other kids or at least getting getting a glimpse of other.

683
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: Kids BUT i kind of tried to follow him AND

684
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: i couldn't find. Him SO i gave up on. It

685
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: and you, know jeff was playing again in a couple of.

686
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: Hours so came back and next thing you, Know prosser

687
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: was sitting right there, again and So i'm, like, okay you,

688
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: know he had no kind of you, know he didn't

689
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: really show any anything in regards to When jeff made good,

690
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 4: moves bad, moves or emotion, whatever no, emotion he didn't

691
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: show any of. That and but he was right. There

692
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: second game it was, over he went somewhere else. AGAIN

693
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: i went to go try to, follow couldn't find. Him, Okay,

694
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: jeffingham don't play again into the, Mall SO i just

695
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: kind of, went you, know Until. Sunday so he comes

696
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: back the next. Day there he is. Again Now jeffingham

697
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: make it to the championship, game and you, KNOW i

698
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: quit trying to look for him after games after that

699
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: and make it to the championship, game and THEN i

700
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: think that that's when you're playing The. WOLVES i think that. Everywhere,

701
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: yeah turn and Then yep became and he made a.

702
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: Movie it was like four seconds to go in the.

703
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: GAME i think we were down one and he went

704
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: coast to coast AND i mean he was at the.

705
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: Rim and WHEN i looked over There, prosser it was the,

706
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: same no, emotion it was, there and SO i was,

707
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: like oh, wow what's kind of what's up with this?

708
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: Guy and so after it's all over With prosser's, leaving everybody's,

709
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: gone everybody's, gone and HE i guess he's on the.

710
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: Flame and he texted me and he, Said, SEAN i

711
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: just wanted to let you KNOW i really enjoyed come

712
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: and see your son. PLAY i came there to evaluate,

713
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: him you, know game, one to see kind of he

714
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: was a kid that you, know we could you know use,

715
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: uh you. Know the second. GAME i was there BECAUSE

716
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: i really enjoyed WHAT i seen in the first. Game

717
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: then he, said you know that third, game he, SAID

718
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: i came there as a, fan and he, said in

719
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: that last final, GAME i came there because he needs

720
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: to be A Wake forest demon deacon and that's exactly

721
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: he's our. Guy so it was just his process of

722
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: how he went through and he, said, oh and by the,

723
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: way if you were looking for, ME i didn't go

724
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 4: there to look for anybody. ELSE i just came there

725
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: to See Jeff. Tig so it was just the way

726
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: he you, know capped it all. Off it was just

727
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: really really really. Good was a good.

728
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 5: Guy he told, me IF i was six, foot, here recruit. Me. Yeah.

729
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah he was getting nay one day and open gym

730
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: When Coach froster came was putting on a. Show he,

731
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: said who is? That that's my best. Friend he was,

732
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: like what school are you going? TO i was, like

733
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna go. Juco he was, like, okay. Nice IF

734
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: i was six, foot, MAN.

735
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 7: I recruit you.

736
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 6: MYSELF i was, like.

737
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 5: You did me like that? Too.

738
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 4: WELL i think he had one of the highest verticals

739
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: off of that jump shot That i've ever. SEEN i,

740
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: mean get up off the, ground, young, yeah both of.

741
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: Them you And Bruce beasley, boy y'all jump up off

742
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: that ground and it's like it can't be nothing but

743
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: a bucket because you were too hard to get up,

744
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: there you, know and it was real easy for. You

745
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: didn't have to work, hard he just had, bounce you.

746
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: Know it was real. Nice But marcus's, situation he was

747
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: with Coach. Kyle WHAT i really liked about his recruitment

748
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: was he came over to the house and at no

749
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: time did he ever mention any of the other all

750
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: stars that he, had like you, know Uh rose or

751
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 4: you know The bookers and everybody Not booker But rose and,

752
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 4: Yeah John. Wall he never at any time mentioned them

753
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: during that whole. Time and so my father had asked a,

754
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: Question he, said, well you hadn't said anything about you,

755
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: Know Derrick. Rose he, said mister T i didn't need

756
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: to say anything about. Them you already know about. Them

757
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 4: i'm here to talk about your son and what your

758
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: son is going to be doing For. Kentucky and so

759
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: that's what we're here for BECAUSE i think he has

760
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: a special, place you know At. Kentucky. Uh he's going

761
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 4: to be with some great guys and you, know he's

762
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: going to get to play and so he's going to

763
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: be on you, know national television every single game that we.

764
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: Play AND i think he's going to really enjoy. That

765
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: and we're going to enjoy having, him you, know if

766
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: you guys you, know Select.

767
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: Kentucky all, right let's ask the real. Question did you

768
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: Think kentucky was a place for?

769
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: HIM i thought, so, YEAH i. DID i JUST i

770
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: liked WHAT i heard from Coach. CAL i know that

771
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: we uh got a little bit of slack flak from

772
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: uh The louisville fans because they thought that he had

773
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: committed when he had not. Committed we had all, WENT i,

774
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: guess uh To, Kentucky Kentucky louisville.

775
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 5: Game what's the, Committee wayne Black?

776
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 7: Shirt, No, No bryan And mike might.

777
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: Have they had committed. Together, well everybody was there, together

778
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: and so they had the signs up in this. Dands,

779
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: Hey marcus t you, know And mike and all of those.

780
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: Guys so we get back there and they were playing

781
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: Against kentucky that, night and we go and they're in

782
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: the hallway in the back and these, guys the fans

783
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: were back, there and they was, like you, know basically

784
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 4: telling them to, commit, commit, commit and Then mike, Said

785
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: i'm coming a love just kind of like, that and

786
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: they started yelling and, screaming AND i mean it was

787
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: off the. Hook and Then ryan. Decided so they, all you,

788
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: know the same kind of. Hype and SO i, Whispering

789
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: marcus is. HERE i, Said, marcus this is not the

790
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: place to do. It we are not going to. Commit, no,

791
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: said we are not going to do it. Here and

792
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: so there was a teacher or someone that was, there

793
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: a lady that was standing, beside and she heard me say,

794
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: that and she, said Mister, tigg you're most certainly doing

795
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: the right. Thing don't let him get caught up in

796
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: the hype and make sure it's the decision that you

797
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: and your family talk about and it's the right place for.

798
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: Him and so he didn't say. Anything he might have

799
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 4: been dancing out of his pants trying to get there,

800
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: something but he. Didn't he didn't say. Anything but when

801
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: we got on our way home ON, espn we heard,

802
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 4: it Said marcus, LIKE, I, NO i didn't.

803
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 7: Commit do you know who we really, Liked pops is

804
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 7: That cincinnati?

805
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 5: Bro that's who we really?

806
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: Like?

807
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 8: People that was our, Guy like it was a people

808
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 8: you're right.

809
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 6: With mick was my guy THAT i.

810
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: KNOW i know that's the one we really was cool. With,

811
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 4: yeah but both of them are so cool Because mick his.

812
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 11: Voice got me, period AND i was, like When i'm

813
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 11: talking To Big, BIG i Thought big was, black BUT.

814
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 4: I mean they were so they were so. Cool it

815
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: Was cincinnati that was that was big on our.

816
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 7: List it was Giving pop's gas.

817
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: Money it wasn't, gasp well we did everything above?

818
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 8: Board is here above?

819
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 5: Board it was a rumor that, you, uh you the

820
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 5: one who reached out to coach Cowboy. Ad is that?

821
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 6: True?

822
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah so we were In Fort wayne AND i

823
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: saw a d playing and he was With Main street

824
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 4: AND i was, like, man this kid is for? Real

825
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: who is? He and everybody was like like they didn't

826
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: really know BECAUSE i guess that's when he hit his gross,

827
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: spurt you, know and he didn't have any kind of

828
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: uh name that was behind him at that. Time oh

829
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: that's WHEN i didn't get to. PLAY i was a, prong,

830
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: right you didn't? Play AND i. SAID i walked up

831
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: to him AND i, said, man what school are you going?

832
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: To and then he was, Like i'm not sure. Yet

833
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: and THEN i, said, man would you like to go To?

834
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: Kentucky he Said? Kentucky, no they ain't never reached out to.

835
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: ME i, said, oh they getting ready to getting ready to,

836
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: so uh that's WHAT i made a phone. CALL i

837
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: made that call to him AND i, said, man y'all

838
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: got to get somebody here. Today somebody here. Today there's

839
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 4: a kid that y'all are. Missed i'm telling you he's

840
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: gonna be super. TOUGH i never said that he was

841
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: gonna be the number one, player BUT i just told

842
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: me he's going To he's A you can't miss on

843
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: him because if you if you don't get, him you're

844
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: getting ready to lose a big. Piece so they came

845
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: and next, thing you, know they was, like, wow this.

846
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 4: Kid so that once all that, happened then everybody started

847
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: trying to get. In everybody started trying to get. In

848
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: BUT i guess when y'all had the awards, thing you,

849
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: Know Coach cale had mentioned that and said that you

850
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 4: should have had me on staff.

851
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: Show possible love because ad was about to go to

852
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 7: a house.

853
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: State yeah and Humane yeah, crazy, yeah, yeah.

854
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 6: Shout out to pop you you brung a.

855
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 8: Natty, yeah that's.

856
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 6: Crazy it was a.

857
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: Lot of fun that, YEAR a lot of fun that.

858
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 5: Year. THANKS i want to talk about you scouting a little.

859
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 5: Bit you got THE i still.

860
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: God that. Eyes, uh it's it's got popcorn and soft

861
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: drinks in.

862
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: It it's a little, blurry.

863
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 8: It's a little.

864
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: BURRY i GOTTA i got a couple of PEOPLE i

865
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: want you to look at and you tell me what you.

866
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: See it's consense consensus number, one number two. PICK i

867
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 5: just want to see which one you will pick.

868
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 4: First and who do we have? HERE A?

869
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: Jacobson?

870
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: YEAH i like.

871
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 7: That, yeah this is what you. Get that's what you get.

872
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 7: Here that's tough left.

873
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: Hand, yeah start to.

874
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: Break you know what this.

875
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 6: Is you know it's six, nine you know this is.

876
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 7: Hm you know What i'm.

877
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: Saying windmill through the. Lane that's.

878
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: Crazy, yeah to.

879
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 5: Handle it very.

880
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 9: Teamakage, yeah that's, yeah that's.

881
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 7: It who what you.

882
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 6: Like about his game so?

883
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: Far like just checking him out or we always break

884
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: down films five twenty film, Room, WELL i MEAN i.

885
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: DO i like his versatility in terms and it all

886
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: comes back to him being able to handle the ball

887
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: like he. Does with his thighs that he, has he

888
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: can get to any place on the floor that he wants.

889
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: To and like you, said the jump shot is going

890
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: to you, know come, come you, know get. There but

891
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: right now he's a score m. Hm and you know

892
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: you got a score that can make plays like, that you.

893
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: Know and AND i haven't seen any of these highlights

894
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: right now where he's actually made passing plays out it's

895
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: just scoring.

896
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 6: HIGHLIGHTS i don't.

897
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 7: Imagine, yeah he can pass a little bit, Though, yeah.

898
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: And it's best part of his.

899
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 6: Game but he can do it good as you think

900
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: you could pass on the athlete like.

901
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 4: That, no, no you don't want to pass on that six.

902
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: Nine you just you just don't want to pass on.

903
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: That that's what we.

904
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 6: Got good pass we. GOT i, mean, yeah they got

905
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 6: some that's a, dot.

906
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: That's, yeah that's.

907
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 7: Tough, yeah, yeah he got some stuff with.

908
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 6: It, yeah we got first up where you make it.

909
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: To the other. One Darren peterson more of a brand beal,

910
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: shooter but he's sneaky, athlete get off the, ground don't

911
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 5: need no. Space they got questions about his durability right

912
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: right long athlete who, yeah, no that's. Cash.

913
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think probably the only thing that they

914
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: kind of set him back a little bit, was you,

915
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: know maybe coming out a few games where they felt,

916
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: like you, know he was, cool he should have been

917
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: playing through. It but in terms of his talent and his,

918
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: abilities there's no question about. It AND i think that

919
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 4: would have probably put him closer to the number one

920
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: selection than the, BAND i.

921
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: Think BUT i think the only reason is because even

922
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: the race right now is because he set. Out, YEAH

923
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 5: i just feel LIKE i, think, YEAH i just think

924
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 5: he's like ready right, now you can sell with. Me

925
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 5: he probably averaged eighteen and a j potential and sellings

926
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 5: just through the roof though in two to three. Years

927
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 5: if that's one you, like if we miss on, that.

928
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah gonna be. CRAZY i just don't think it can

929
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: go wrong with either one of. Them but if the

930
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: only difference is If, peterson if his jumper is not,

931
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: clicking mm, hmm does he have what the best has?

932
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: Outside because the band is gonna go score, anyway get

933
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 4: to the. Basket be, Honest, Pops i've never seen the jump.

934
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: Shot there's no question about him being able to shoot. It,

935
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: yeah there's no question about. It that was the only

936
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: thing THAT i would say if that was the. Case what?

937
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: ELSE i just think the athleticism from a j the,

938
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: lengths like the the movements at that, start it's hard

939
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: to pass on that six nine get a shot, Off,

940
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: YEAH i think's. Potential, YEAH i think you can find

941
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: a jump SHOT i think everybody gets better once this

942
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: becomes your job every.

943
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: DAY i think the jump, shot.

944
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 5: Like like, said he, Is brad beal, right could be

945
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: something crazy And brad is really, good really.

946
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 7: Good it's a good, player but really.

947
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: Good He the question is does he fit in any

948
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: system in the n B. A is there a system

949
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: That Peter everything he can shoot is a j fit

950
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: every one of.

951
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: Them, yes we're gonna take wrong.

952
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: Athlete were gonna make room for you so you can't go.

953
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 5: Wrong so you The, wizards you Got, Trey you got

954
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: a D.

955
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm i'm going with the bat for for.

956
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: Sure that's a good.

957
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 4: Tham, yeah you already got shooters out.

958
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 5: There that's a good. Team you Got Trey. Johnson, yeah,

959
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 5: yeah and WE i GOT i got two more for.

960
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 5: You speaking of ready right, now we Got.

961
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: Boozer you like The boozer.

962
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: GAME i MEAN i like his game because he's a

963
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: really smart player and he, can you, know LIKE i,

964
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 4: said hit him outside and take you. Inside you, KNOW

965
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: i don't know how effective he would be on the

966
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: inside being BECAUSE i don't think like he's a great, Athlete,

967
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 4: nona you, know so that might be a little difficult

968
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: for him and a little, short you know, so but you,

969
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: know he's just a really really SMART i think his

970
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: intelligence on the floor is is the bigger part of

971
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 4: his game that is gonna be more. BENEFICIAL i THINK.

972
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 5: I heard some somebody say, yesterday he is who he, Is,

973
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 5: like he's a good. Player he was the same player

974
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 5: in high school as he was in. College he's gonna

975
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 5: be the same player in THE. Nba he's probably come

976
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 5: out right away every sixteen or eighteen. Points he'll do

977
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 5: that every. Night.

978
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: Yeah but as far as the.

979
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: Ceiling do you think he's closer to that ceiling than

980
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: the other?

981
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Players, yes, yeah just because athletically he's just not that athletically.

982
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: Gifted but like skill, wise.

983
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: He can make a. Shot he's gonna do everything. Right

984
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: he's gonna be in the right, position he plays basketball

985
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: the right. Way like you, SAID i think he's gonna

986
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 3: be a fifteen year pro and for the majority of

987
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: his career he's gonna be fifteen points are?

988
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: Better is he Our horford type for?

989
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 6: Sure Al?

990
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: Horford yeah that is. Right, YEAH i, agree.

991
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 5: Our horford still.

992
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: Player yeah.

993
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: Sure and then we got another guy who may not

994
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 5: be ready, yet but if he reaches his. POTENTIAL i need,

995
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: That Caleb, WILSON i need.

996
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: This, yeah he right there with Ag, yeah he got

997
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: that same type of. Stuff just a lot of.

998
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: People saying he might sneak up to number. THREE i.

999
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 5: Wouldn't athletic he, led he was led like, then he

1000
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 5: was second in THE ncaa and dunks he got and

1001
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: he missed like thirteen.

1002
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: Games and he has so much fun.

1003
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: Playing So i'm saying if he catches up skill wise

1004
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: or gets a jump, shot.

1005
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 6: Yeah that's just he just so a. Team it's crazy

1006
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 6: him And.

1007
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 8: Booze.

1008
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: Dang he actually said he that's when he learned how

1009
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 5: to play for basketball for? Real is playing on that? Team?

1010
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah they want piece. Jam. YEAH i just see so much. Potential,

1011
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 5: bro he gonna be better than. Everybody low, Key, bro

1012
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 5: he just learned how to really.

1013
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: Hoop yeah, yeah that's.

1014
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: Scary.

1015
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 6: Bro you think he's gonna be better at a?

1016
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 5: Bro if he just learned how to, Hoop, bro that

1017
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: that means he got a lot of way to go

1018
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: to get. Better he already. Real that's.

1019
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: Crazy he's gonna.

1020
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 7: COLD i don't, know, bro he's three.

1021
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: Pick if You, memphis they might want to tap. In

1022
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: who you going with they might want to tap.

1023
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: In i'll take the.

1024
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: Athlete, YEAH i would.

1025
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: Take can't you have Zach ady And boozer?

1026
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 6: Together you?

1027
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: CAN i, MEAN i think boos can play the. Four

1028
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: BUT i just you just need some excitement in down

1029
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: there and. People, yeah for, Sure, yeah he's gonna bring

1030
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: some excitement to the. Game what's your.

1031
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: What's your thoughts On boozer? Defensively, uh.

1032
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: He is who he. Is he's A.

1033
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: Boozer SO i don't think he's gonna be always be

1034
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: the greatest defensive.

1035
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: Player that's a.

1036
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: Fact this guy has one more potential on the Defensive, Athletically,

1037
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: yeah speed and, Quickness SO i think he'll be a better.

1038
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: Defender BUT i just Think boo's gonna play positional. DEFENSE

1039
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: i think he's gonna be in the right spot all the.

1040
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 4: Time and if you're talking about, Numbers boozer is gonna

1041
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: have consistency across the board with his. Numbers it's just

1042
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: going to be that, right because he's a guy that's

1043
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: gonna make sure he blocks. Out he's gonna take care

1044
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: of that because he Knows i'm not jumping over Anybod

1045
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 4: SO i got a box AND i got to go get,

1046
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 4: it and so he's going to do all the things

1047
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: that you know fundamentally that you need to do to be.

1048
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 5: Successful it might Take Cale wilson a year or. Two,

1049
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 5: yeah BUT i think his. POTENTIALS i really want move

1050
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 5: to go to a good team because that would be

1051
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: his best. Situation he got to be OVER, whoa that'd be.

1052
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: Crazy now he don't need to go, there that'd be.

1053
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 6: Crazy that ain't, Fair but.

1054
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 7: Just somewhere where he ain't got to be the main.

1055
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: Guy that's not. Fair it's not him like a j

1056
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: kind of if he was like an alur for role

1057
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 5: to The. Clippers yeah they, Five.

1058
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 6: Yeah clippers with. THEM i like.

1059
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: That yeah, Yeah johnath free.

1060
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: Agent, yeah you Got, cam you Got. Kawhi you gotta do.

1061
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: This you've got guys who are supposed to make place for.

1062
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: Him he can figure right. In he can go get that.

1063
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: Fifteen it's gonna look real.

1064
00:52:53,400 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: Good that makes sense real, quick. MAN i want to

1065
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: talk about the games for the. Night, well it's only

1066
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 5: one game to. Night Pistons. Caves you've been.

1067
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: WATCHING i haven't been watching that series at.

1068
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: All it's. Boring, yeah it's it's pretty. Boring is heating up?

1069
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: Though it got good last gay he had forty. Three, yeah, yeah,

1070
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: yeah thirty nine and you not only of the person

1071
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 5: do that Is sleepy for, right which we're gonna talk

1072
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: about here at the end of the.

1073
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: Show, well wasn't he like one point away from that?

1074
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 6: Record?

1075
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 5: Yeah it was thirty nine in the second, half so

1076
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 5: he tied it With Sleepy.

1077
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 6: Florid. Yeah so before we go, there what you think

1078
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 6: About lebron thinks you? RETIRE i think he.

1079
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: SHOULD i just thought he needed to do a farewell to,

1080
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: HER i, thought, so you, know BUT i think coming

1081
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: back he got three twenty. Five he may still average,

1082
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: that BUT i think his effectiveness in terms of he's

1083
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: averaging the, numbers but his effectiveness as a. Player he

1084
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: just wanted to play off. Series, yeah with, nobody with his.

1085
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: SON i, MEAN i get, IT i understand, it BUT

1086
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: i think IT'S i just think it's that TIME i

1087
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: say go out on. TOP i feel THAT i say

1088
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: go out on. TOP i feel if you give that a,

1089
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: year you, know give some young buck behind your. Chance

1090
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 4: but that's just what my thoughts are on, it that

1091
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: he just do a farewell tour on it and go with.

1092
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: It AND i think that farewell tour should start with

1093
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: him being At.

1094
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 6: Cleveland so you think bron and he, said BRON i

1095
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 6: was going back To.

1096
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: Cleveland, YEAH i think that that's where it needs To.

1097
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: WOLDS i think he's gonna have to, well you know,

1098
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 4: what you, Know But bronni's been doing AND i like

1099
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: the way he's been carrying, himself you, know all through

1100
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: all of the you, know father son thing and you,

1101
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: know being gifted, this you, know and all of. That

1102
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 4: but he's been playing hard and he goes out there

1103
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 4: and he commits to, playing so you, know and he's

1104
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: not trying, to you, know address all of those concerns

1105
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: that everybody else. Has he just goes out and, plays you,

1106
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: know and SO i respect him for, That and BUT

1107
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: i do think he has to go with him, situation

1108
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 4: him Or jannis n Bron you, mean at this stage

1109
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: got five. Brothers, Yeah janna's got some pool like. That

1110
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 4: BUT i tell you what you, take you, know take

1111
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: a couple of years. Back you, know, hey bron got that.

1112
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Too if you know they were at that, age these were,

1113
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: kids his kids that weren't even at that level OF

1114
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: nba competition. Yet you, Know janni's, brothers, uh you, know

1115
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: full adults and been there for you know.

1116
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 5: Years If bron was a little, Younger bryce in the league,

1117
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: too oh, yeah he wouldn't probably have probably have his

1118
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 5: daughter in.

1119
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 4: There i'm.

1120
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: Saying all, right before we get out of, here we

1121
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 5: got a segment where we look at some of the

1122
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 5: best plays IN nba history on this. Date so the first,

1123
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 5: One Derek. Fisher we just seen the. Fish this happened.

1124
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: Today let's be.

1125
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 7: Here point guard.

1126
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: Tough, yeah they changed the rule because of. This that's.

1127
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 5: Tough zero point four on the. Clock then he get it, off.

1128
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: He, counted, counted he got it all.

1129
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: Too, yeah you got your.

1130
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: Shoot, yeah he ain't had a head band Of let's

1131
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 7: get out of.

1132
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: Here he got it.

1133
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 6: Off he doesn't got it got it, off, bro that's.

1134
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 4: Tough that's a bad way to lose with somebody questioning

1135
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: that whether you got it.

1136
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 5: All they changed they changed the rule because of. That

1137
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: you can't get a shout.

1138
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 9: Off yeah, yeah point the score seventy, three seventy.

1139
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: Two, yeah that's a Bad so point three is a.

1140
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: Tip you have to.

1141
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 5: Tip, ye that's, crazy. Boss last, one we were just

1142
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 5: talking about, It Sleepy, floyd.

1143
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: What you know about sleeping floor right.

1144
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 5: There who is?

1145
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: This lost me with, this, yes, sir before it was

1146
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: Nice georgie Lost georgie. T, yeah yeah he was. Nice

1147
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 4: kareem out. There he was like seven, yeah just nice

1148
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: and yeah.

1149
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 5: He had thirty nine a second half To that's Who

1150
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 5: Domon mitchell, Time.

1151
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: Sleepy.

1152
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 6: Floyd let me ask, you, man when he was growing,

1153
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: up who was your favorite?

1154
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 4: Player uh Mo cheeks Actually? Cheeks yeah, yeah he, Coaching,

1155
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: yeah but he was With, philly With philly only because

1156
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: he was my favorite. Player BECAUSE i can see myself

1157
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: kind of doing you want to be Like cheeks chicks

1158
00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: like he?

1159
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 7: Was who you who you looked at that Like i'm

1160
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 7: similar to?

1161
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 5: Him who you wanted to be?

1162
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: LIKE i had nobody THAT i wanted to be like like, no, no,

1163
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: no you know how you feel like you that?

1164
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: One that's.

1165
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 7: COOL i didn't have some type of favorite, player favorite, player.

1166
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 5: Bro it was More. Cheeks now you didn't like DOCTOR.

1167
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: J i MEAN i Like, jock DOCTOR. J but, seriously

1168
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 4: More cheeks was the one THAT i was. Always he

1169
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: was just my favorite.

1170
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 6: Player cheese probably like that's crazy the.

1171
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: Only, yeah, YEAH i mean he, was he.

1172
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: Was he.

1173
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: Was he was that guy for me at.

1174
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 10: The checks that that was your favorite. Player he's still,

1175
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 10: coaching still, COACHING i, know yeah that With philly shout

1176
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 10: the more.

1177
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 5: Cheese. Yeah, well mister T, man we appreciate you coming.

1178
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 5: In was our first guest on five twenty, fail so

1179
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 5: it's only.

1180
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: Rightly appreciate y'all have me.

1181
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 5: IN i have ABOUT.

1182
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 6: O G man shout out to.

1183
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: YOU i appreciate you.

1184
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: Hard guys, andself just all everybody our coach with on

1185
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 5: the culture, side we got ten other. Coaches we got

1186
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 5: the most coaches in high school.

1187
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 4: History, yeah more than.

1188
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 5: Well we appreciate you'all tapping in with. Us that's five twenty.

1189
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 7: Films the volume