1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Warren. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: Get ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: This is Strange Things with Josha Warren. 13 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: I am JOSHUAFE Warren, and each week on this show, 14 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing a brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, 15 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, A ghost 17 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: lifted him two feet into the air and he's not crazy. 18 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Plus new UFO dynamics. 19 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 5: You know. 20 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: For over thirty years, I have interviewed. 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Scientists, satanists, atheists, ministers, astronauts, porn stars, politicians, magicians, movie stars, 22 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: lots of everyday folks and as art Bell said, some 23 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: of the craziest people you'll ever meet. 24 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: I've done that. 25 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: For newspaper articles, for books, radio, TV, movies, you name it. 26 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: And when you do that for a long time, you 27 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: tend to develop what some might consider I think the 28 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: technical term is a BS detector. And I know that 29 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: some of you listening might say, well, well, Josh, sometimes 30 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: you seem like you're kind of full of it. 31 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Well, so be it. If that's the case, then maybe 32 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: that's why I have such a good BS detector. But 33 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: I want to. 34 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: Share with you a recording of a man whom I 35 00:02:54,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: believe is credible and logical. And I say that because 36 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I have known him personally for over certainly over fifteen years. 37 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, I used to try 38 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to do it all. I would go to live events 39 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,279 Speaker 1: all over the country and the world and do speaking engagements, 40 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: and I would do the TV shows, and I would 41 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: do the movies and the radio. And I finally got 42 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: to a point where I said, Okay, this is too much. 43 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: I need to focus on one thing for a while, 44 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: and so I decided to focus on podcasting. So I 45 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: don't do live engagements and TV stuff very often anymore. 46 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it has to be a very very special occasion. 47 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: I do not offer myself up as a guest most 48 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: of the time. It's a very rare thing. I decided 49 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: to devote my time to podcasting and doing experiments and research. 50 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: And you always want to stay true to your roots, 51 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: because if I just did nothing but start going on 52 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: shows as a paranormal expert all the time, and then 53 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I would have nothing new to talk about. You have 54 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to have spend more of your time innovating things, experimenting 55 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: and researching, and so I am devoting even more of 56 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: my life to that at this point, and I figured 57 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: my outlet for that is this program as of right now. 58 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: So I don't do speaking engagements anymore, but I used 59 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: to do a lot of them, and I have done 60 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: many of them in Chicago, Illinois. And one of the 61 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: people who used to hire me for her conference is 62 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Ursula Bielski, and she had a wonderful conference that she 63 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: would do every year there in Chicago, and I was 64 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: at my first one there. I don't recall the exact year, 65 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: but I met a man named Ben Pavilon, and he 66 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and I have stayed friends ever since. Ben is like me. 67 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: He's a geek. 68 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: He likes the technical stuff, the Tesla Cooi, the electrostatic generators. 69 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: He's got a very he's got a logical background. He 70 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: works in a in a high tech position for you know, 71 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: a serious company. I don't want to talk about that 72 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: part of his life, but I mean he's he's a 73 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: real professional and just a guy who has a lot 74 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: of responsibility in his job and security clearance is that 75 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so over the years, whenever I've 76 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: been in Chicago, I would meet up with him. Or 77 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: turns out he comes out to Las Vegas once in 78 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: a while to attend a conference, and so I try 79 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: to get together with him when I can when he 80 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: pops out here to Vegas. And just recently he came 81 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: out here. And you know the thing that the reason 82 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: that he was involved with all this stuff is because Ben, 83 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: even though he works at a very proactical field, he 84 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: is the head of a group called Chicago ghost Hunters. 85 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, if you're on Facebook, 86 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: you can just go and look up just do a 87 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: search for Chicago ghost Hunters and it'll come up the 88 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Chicago ghost Hunters group. And he has been he's been 89 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: investigating the paranormal almost his whole life, many many decades. 90 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I won't give his age away, but you know, he's 91 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: not an old man, but he's certainly not a young man, 92 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and he has a lot of stories to tell. And 93 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: so recently, you know, I've been trying to get out 94 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: about since I've recovered from this surgery, you know. And 95 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: so he happened to come into town, and Lauren and 96 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: I met up with him for an evening, had a 97 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: very nice dinner. He was gracious bought us our dinner, 98 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and then we decided we were going to go and 99 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: have a little fun gambling. But in the meantime, we 100 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: got into my car because Vegas could be rather aloud, 101 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, and we got into my car 102 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and I said. 103 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, we have a kind of a 104 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: quiet space inside the suv here. 105 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Why don't I turn on this little audio recorder and 106 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: maybe just ask you about some of your experiences and 107 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: see what I can possibly play on the show. Maybe 108 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: you have something that the listeners would find intriguing. And 109 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, absolutely, that sounds great, and so I 110 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: turned on the recorder. It's not the greatest quality, I mean, 111 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: it is just literally the two of us sitting in 112 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: my SUV and we chatted for a while, and he 113 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: started telling me some about his background and various paranormal 114 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: experiences that he has had, and one in particular, of course, 115 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: which coming from him, is quite extraordinary, about a ghost 116 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: lifting him off of his feet. So I said, look, 117 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I have to play some of this on the show, 118 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: and that's what you are about to hear. 119 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: So I am now going to I'm going to start 120 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: playing this. 121 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot that I recorded with him, 122 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: but I want you to understand that this is not 123 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: coming from a crazy person. Now, granted, we did have 124 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: a few drinks at dinner, so we might not be 125 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: speaking as sharply, our dictation might not be as fine 126 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: as usual, but nonetheless, listen to some of these experiences 127 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: from Ben Pavlon of Chicago Ghost Hunters Group. 128 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: Ben, how did we meet each other? 129 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: We met each other at the at Ursula Bielski's Ghost 130 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: conference back at the Fortage Theater when Lorraine Warren actually 131 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: happened to be there as well, presigning you and I 132 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: were happening to be standing by the bar, and we 133 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: started talking about Tesla coils. 134 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: Actually, well that makes sense, so why were you there. 135 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,479 Speaker 6: I was there because. 136 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: I was running the Chicago ghost Hunters group, which was 137 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: a long time probably one of the oldest meetup groups 138 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: on the ghost hunting scene in Chicago, running from roughly 139 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: about two thousand and six all the way up to 140 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. 141 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 6: So good long run for sure. 142 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: Ben. 143 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: What is your background that led you into paranormal investigation. 144 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: Well, my background actually started when I was a child 145 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: lived in a very haunted apartment that had like shadow people, 146 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: disembodied a disembodied hand that would disturb. 147 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 6: Me as a kid, and it was just it was 148 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 6: a lot of bad stuff. 149 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: Going on there. 150 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: And so my my goal of actually getting into the 151 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: paranormal investigation side was I wanted to face up to 152 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: my fears and understand it better and you know, try 153 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: and figure out what's actually going on. So I would 154 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 4: face my fears and get over it and try and 155 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 4: uh stand up to it because because at the time, 156 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: when when I was a kid, I had these shadow 157 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: people that were actually uh going after I mean, these 158 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: were like not the kind that you usually see like 159 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: at other investigations, where you know they're just shadows of 160 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: spirits that you know might have been lingering around, you know, 161 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: that are harmless, not doing anything. These shadow people were 162 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: they they were letting me know that they could do 163 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: anything they wanted me to do, and there's nothing I 164 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: could do about it. So I had a very intense fear, 165 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: and you know, I was very open to that, very 166 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: perceptive of all this unnatural activity. So, you know, being young, 167 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: you know, being a child, it was hard for me 168 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: to understand what was going on. And you know, at 169 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: the time, my mom didn't believe me when I told 170 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: her what was happening. So now she does, but it 171 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 4: feels bad about not addressing the issue back then. But yeah, 172 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: that's basically what what got me into the paranormal field. 173 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: All right, time for a break. When we come back, 174 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: you will hear Ben talk about some of the things 175 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:49,239 Speaker 1: he's learned regarding the relationship between environmental energy and paranormal activity. 176 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: And if you're a paranormal investigator, you might even be 177 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: able to use some of this to well help enhance 178 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: your activity, or if you don't want that kind of activity, 179 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: well maybe it'll be helpful to to inform you on 180 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: how to prevent it. And then of course we'll get 181 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: into this crazy experience that he had being physically attacked 182 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: by well a spirit. Hey, if you like this show, 183 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: support it, keep me doing it. Go to Joshuapwarren dot 184 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: com and sign up for my free e newsletter right 185 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: there on the homepage. Takes you two seconds. Put your 186 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: email address in there, hit submit. When you do that, 187 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: you will receive an automated email from me right off 188 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the bat that has some free online gifts to help 189 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: you start making your. 190 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: Life more magical. Joshuapwarren dot com. I have Joshua P. 191 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things on the 192 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast at Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and 193 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things 194 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 195 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. 196 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio in 197 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden 198 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: and every night is silver on Jiao Zoom. And now 199 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: let's get back into the stories from Ben Pavlon of 200 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Chicago Ghost Hunters Group. 201 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: And then after that. 202 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: I have some news to share with you about U 203 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: f O call them what you want, U f O 204 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: U a P technology that I'm pretty sure you have 205 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: not heard anywhere else. In fact, I can almost guarantee it, 206 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: all right, So let's get back to Ben. 207 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the data have recorded over 208 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: the years of you know, many investigations. There's always a 209 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: correlation of uh, you know energy like you know, weather 210 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: conditions causing uh, you know, causing increased electromagnetic activity or 211 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: negative negative ions in the air, you know, intensifying that activity, 212 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: or you know. 213 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 6: I we uh, we. 214 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: Conducted an investigat at Ashmore Estates back back you know, 215 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: way before Robin Terryo owned the place, back when Scott 216 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: owned it. We found his Jacob's ladder in the basement, 217 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: which was actually for a haunted house exhibit. He was 218 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: doing it, you know, for like a mad scientist lab. 219 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: We flipped that thing on and that Jacob's ladder energized 220 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: the whole place and caused an insane amount of activity, 221 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: I mean, which was great proof to show that if 222 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: you if you introduce you know, artificial energy sources such 223 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: as Tesla coils or like the Jacob's ladder, or even 224 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: like when you use a you know propane heater that 225 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: actually also helps generate you know, negative iron generation. Definitely 226 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: definitely seems to stoke up the activity of a place. 227 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: I think it's that it really seems like just from 228 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: just observation and everything, it seems like the uh they 229 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: need the energy, that energy to be able to communicate 230 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: with this side of the fence. It's almost like it's 231 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: uh kind of like you know, helping bridge our world 232 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: into their world with that that that that electricity, much 233 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: like uh, you know the way uh Tesla even set 234 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: himself when he accidentally electrocuted himself. 235 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 6: He said he could see the future in. 236 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: The past at that moment when when that electricity course 237 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: through him. I think it, uh, I think it actually will. 238 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: I think it kind of bridges that gap between that 239 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: that ghostly uh or that dimension that they're they're they're 240 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,359 Speaker 4: communicating from. I have to say, probably the most insane, 241 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: craziest experience I ever had. I mean, I was at 242 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: the Mansfield Reformatory. We had been we'd been there all night, 243 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: and we had to go down the uh. We were 244 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: wrapping up the investigation and we're and I will say 245 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: we had a lot of got a lot of great EVPs, 246 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: and uh there was a lot of unusual activity, especially 247 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 4: in this room that uh my co investigator didn't want 248 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: to go in, said he was scared. And we went 249 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: in there and there was a lot of unusual things 250 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: that happened in there. But this is I'm not going 251 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: to cover that because I want to get into what 252 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: actually happened to me. That was that was witnessed by 253 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people and actually even gave me more 254 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 4: respect for, you know, being very careful on the you know, 255 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: looking into these these places. 256 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 6: We were going down the UH. 257 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 4: We were packing up, and I was actually kind of 258 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: apprehensive about going down this the stairwell of the UH 259 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: the central guard house that you have to that those 260 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: chairs take. 261 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: You down to the uh the main entrance to. 262 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: You know, where you where you can load load your 263 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: equipment back in your car. So we had packed the 264 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: equipment and I was talking to Mark, who was with me, 265 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: and Uh, I was like, do we really have to. 266 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 6: Go down those stairs? Can we go down that elevator? 267 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: It's like now that elevators you know, takes you takes 268 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 4: you down to the area where we had the coffee 269 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: and pizza, And I was like, yeah, you're right, So 270 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: I put, I grabbed my equipment where we started walking 271 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: down the stairs. 272 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 5: Mind you, the lights were. 273 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 4: Out at at that point, and uh, when I started 274 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: stepping down the stairs, I all of a sudden felt 275 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: my shoe coming off on my left foot, and I 276 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: thought at first, I must I must not have laced 277 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: up my boots, you know, tight enough. And I'm like, oh, well, 278 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, bootle fall down the stairs, I'll be fine. However, 279 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: when I started trying to step my foot down to uh, 280 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: you know, continue walking down, my foot wouldn't go down, 281 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden I got lifted up, like 282 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: two feet up off the ground. I mean I had 283 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: my hands on the stereil banister, they were ripped off. 284 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: I was whipped around backwards and thrown backwards down the staircase. 285 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: If it wasn't for the fact that I had that 286 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: I had unpacked my backpack, put a hoodie in there, 287 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: and had just had the equipment in a couple of bags, 288 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: that backpack actually patted me, and uh, my co investigator's daughter, 289 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: who happened to be a professional cheerleader, caught my shoulder 290 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: blade as I was flying down those backwards down the stairs. 291 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: And when I when I uh. 292 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: When I uh stood up upright, you know, I was 293 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: talking to the guy downstairs at that point. The guy 294 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: I should have mentioned that, the guide from U Mansfield, 295 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: he already flipped on the lights. He saw the same thing. 296 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: He saw me lifted up up there. You know, a 297 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: couple of people saw me. They were like, we saw 298 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 4: you lifted up two feet off the ground and then 299 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: falling backwards. And he was saying he even told me, 300 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: he said he's seen other people had that get pushed 301 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: down those stairs as well. 302 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 6: And the crazy part too, was when I looked in. 303 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: The mirror, I had a bruise on my chin, like 304 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: somebody gave me an upper cut. And I just never 305 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: I have to say, that actually really shook me up. 306 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: I thought I was going to die. And I never 307 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: felt such energy. I didn't believe that they could manifest 308 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: that kind of energy to actually throw me. 309 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: Back like that. 310 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Tell everybody how to learn more about you and your work, 311 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: or whatever else you'd like to say. 312 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 5: At this point, the floor is yours. 313 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: Well, if you want to join, I still have the 314 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: face group, the Facebook group Chicago ghost Hunters group, So 315 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 4: if you want to reach out, you know, just applying 316 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: to join. And you know, as long as you answer 317 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: the uh the questions that I have on the site, 318 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: which are very easy questions I answered, believe me, you 319 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: can join and you're free to answer any questions. 320 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: You know. 321 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: The main goal of the Chicago ghost Hunters group is 322 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: all about you know, information exchange, you know, you know, 323 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: learning about how to conduct investigations the right way, you know, 324 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: doing proper research. And I'll even help, you know, guide 325 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: you to figuring out locations you can go to without 326 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: having to you know, spend money on you know, paying 327 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: for a more notable site. 328 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ben, And as you all can see, that 329 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing. Those are the kinds of 330 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: things that Ben Pavlon and I talk about when we 331 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: get together. And so let me tell if you're in 332 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: the Chicago, Illinois area, then he's easy to find and 333 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you should definitely look him up the Chicago ghost Hunters Group. 334 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: But always interesting to get some dramatic stories from someone 335 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: who you know has a very practical mindset and a 336 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: technical logical background and all that. Well, here's something I 337 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: know Ben would appreciate. And I bet he has not 338 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: heard this yet, because you know, we've been talking about 339 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: this relationship between electricity electromagnetism. You hear it all the time. 340 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a sort of a fundamental element 341 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: of the conversation that comes up when you get into 342 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: the paranormal and the relationship between all of that kind 343 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: of energy, that form of energy manifestation and what people 344 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: often experience as the paranormal. And it's one thing to 345 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: envision it as something ghostly, you know, like some blue 346 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: coronal discharge, some plasma that's floating around, But it also 347 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: plays a big role when it comes to thinking about 348 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: how that some kind of alien technology. And I say 349 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: that for lack of a better word, because when I 350 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: say aliens, I'm not necessarily talking about little green men 351 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: from another rock out there. They are most likely something 352 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: closer to inter dimensional beings or maybe a combination of both. 353 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: When we talk about them, and we talk about the 354 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: craft that we document flying around here, then we of 355 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: course have to ask, how on earth do they seem 356 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to defy the laws of physics that we find such 357 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: scientific comfort in. You know, scientists will sit there and 358 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: they'll argue till they're blue in the face about how 359 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: you can't beat the laws of physics they are fixed, 360 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: and yet we have documents of these craft that do 361 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: just that. 362 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: Well. A few days ago, I was. 363 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: On YouTube and I saw a video on one of 364 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: my favorite channels. It's excellent if you're into scientific experiments 365 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: that are kind of explained as plainly as possible. It's 366 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: called the Action Lab. Four point ninety nine million subscribers 367 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: right now. If that tells you what you think. The 368 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Action Lab and the guy who does it. He put 369 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: out this video and it says scientists just found why 370 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: electrified drops don't splash. Now, I'd never heard about that before, 371 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: and right off the bat, that should sound very interesting 372 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to you or very boring, but I bet it will 373 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: be interesting to all of you when I come back 374 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and explain how that this immediately turned on the light 375 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: bulb and my brain. 376 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: When it comes to UFOs, I'm Joshua P. Warren. 377 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 378 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I'll be back 379 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things all 380 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: the Art Radio and Coast a Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 381 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Joshua P. 382 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: Warren and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 383 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: Let me say this again. 384 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: The video at the action Lab channel there on YouTube 385 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: says scientists just found why electrified drops don't splash. And 386 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: basically they show a video in slow motion of a 387 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: drop of water hitting a surface like a mirror. And 388 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about a drop of water that's maybe been 389 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: dropped from a foot above the mirror. This is a 390 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: regular drop of water, and it's just like a rain drop. 391 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: You see it fall in slow motion. 392 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: It hits the mirror and it goes splash, just like 393 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: you've seen your whole life. But then they say, now, 394 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: look what happens if we electrify that drop of water, 395 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: if we give an electrical charge. And when they do that, 396 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: this time the drop of water falls on the same surface, 397 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: but it doesn't go splash. It just spreads out. It's 398 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: almost like a non event. It's weird to see that happen. 399 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: You're expecting a drop of water to splash, and when 400 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: it just hits and just just goes flat and there's 401 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: no splash, it almost looks like it's not water anymore. Now, 402 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: if you wonder about, like, what do you mean electrified 403 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: drop of water? I don't want to get too technical, 404 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: this is a podcast, but let me just put it 405 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: this way. Some of you know there are devices out there, 406 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: like let's say a Vandergraph machine, which is the big 407 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: silver ball that you could put your hands on and 408 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: it charges you with electricity and your hair stands on 409 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: the end. That's an electrostatic generator. Or you have something 410 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: like a Whimshurst machine, which is another type of electrostatic generator. 411 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: It's the type of energy you get when you drag 412 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: your socks across the floor on a cold, dry night 413 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: and you touch the doorknob and bang, you get the shock. 414 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. And so what they would 415 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: do is they would they did an experiment where they 416 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: would just take a drop of falling water and have 417 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: it passed by an electrode on the way down, so 418 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: that that drop of water would take on a charge 419 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: either positive or negative. And that's it. And the very 420 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: fact that this drop of water has discharge means that 421 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: when it hits the surface, there's no splash. Now that's interesting, 422 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: and they're already talking about like how this might apply 423 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: to new forms of spray painting or printing, like using 424 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: printer ink and s so that it doesn't get a splotchy. 425 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, but for me, I mean almost as 426 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: soon as I. 427 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Saw this headline, I will WHOA. This may explain one 428 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest mysteries that I've come across in UFO history, 429 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: and that is because I did a documentary which actually 430 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: what it's a short documentary. It's it's probably fifteen sixteen 431 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: minutes long. But I did this when I was living 432 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico and it's about the UFOs that are 433 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: seen going well, part of it is about the UFOs 434 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: that are seeing going in and out of. 435 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: The water in Puerto Rico. If you haven't watched this, 436 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: go to YouTube and. 437 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Just search for my name Joshua pe Warren and then 438 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: search for oh UFOs not UFOs. Put the O at 439 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: the beginning Joshua P. Warren, Oh, you a new Discovery 440 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and you'll find the documentary there. It won an award 441 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: at the fourteen Film Festival in England. And then let's 442 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: see here or the UK. And then if you if 443 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: you have trouble finding it that way, go to my 444 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: website Joshua P. Warren dot com. You'll find a really 445 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: cool section called gallery of the strange. There's a lot 446 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: of stuff to check out there. There you'll see a 447 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: link that says oh UFO's Organic UFOs Report. If you 448 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: click that, then you can not only watch the video, 449 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: but also get more in depth information. 450 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 6: Well. 451 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: In that documentary, I presented one of the most amazing 452 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: pieces of footage that I've ever seen in my life. 453 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: When I was living in Puerto Rico, there was an 454 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: incident that occurred about maybe an hour north of where 455 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: I lived, in a town called Aguadilla, the northwestern corner 456 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: of the Eye Island, and one evening there in twenty thirteen, 457 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: Homeland Security captured thermal footage of this UFO flying around 458 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the airport and flying all around the coastline there, And 459 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: of course this was of great concern because it's around 460 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: an airport. And one of the remarkable things that people 461 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: commented about was that whatever this UFO was, occasionally it 462 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: would dip into the ocean. It would dip into the 463 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean, and it would travel under the water for 464 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: a while, and then it would come back out, and 465 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: then it would fly for a while, and then it 466 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: would dip back in, and eventually it was joined by 467 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: a second UFO and finally both of them disappear together 468 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: into the water. Now this is about nine o'clock at night. 469 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: But everybody always said, well, it doesn't make any sense 470 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: because when these UFOs go into the water, there's no splash. Now, 471 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: these UFOs are traveling at a very high rate of speed, 472 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: and we know the laws of physics, right, so if 473 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: these things are traveling and then they hit the water 474 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: at that speed, well there should be some kind of 475 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous splash. Some people even use that as an 476 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: excuse to think that this footage is not legit. And 477 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that I believe one hundred 478 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: percent that this footage is legit. And if you watch 479 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: my little documentary for free there, you'll see why. I 480 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: believe that it's been studied by a lot of very 481 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: credible scientists who have come to the conclusion that this 482 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: is real stuff. 483 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: It actually was leaked. I happened to know. 484 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: The one of the guys related to the guy who 485 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: leaked it. It was one of his relatives who worked 486 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: there at the airport, but we won't get into that. 487 00:32:53,880 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: So I thought to myself, it never made sense to 488 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: me how that these UFOs could go into the water 489 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: without creating a splash. I was just as mystified as 490 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: everybody else. But then when I saw this, I thought, wow, Okay, 491 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: now they are electrifying a drop of water and dropping 492 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: it on top of a solid surface like a video 493 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, like a mirror. So okay, so you take 494 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: they have video here of this drop of water. Sorry, 495 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: my brain's kind of all over the place. You got 496 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: video of this drop of water. It's falling and it's electrified, 497 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: and then it hits the solid object, this mirror, but 498 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: there's no splash. So I thought, well, would it have 499 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: the same effect if an electrified maybe a somewhat amorphous 500 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: object hit the water instead of a solid object. So, 501 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: to simplify things, if an electrified drop of water will 502 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: not splash when it hits a mirror, will that electrified 503 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: drop of water also not splash if it hits an 504 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: uncharged pool of water. Because I'm talking about comparing the 505 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: idea of something like this UFO going into the water. 506 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: Let's say the UFO is electrified and it somehow represents 507 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: this charged water droplet, and so when it goes down 508 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: and hits the surface of the water, the reason that 509 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't splash is because that it's no different than 510 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: how the drop of water doesn't splash when it hits 511 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: the mirror. But does that effect still work with water, 512 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: like when an uncharged pool of water i e. The 513 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: ocean act as act the same way that the mirror would. 514 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: I hope that you're keeping up with this. To me, 515 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it's super simple in my mind. But when 516 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: you try to sit down and explain stuff like this 517 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: in a podcast, and this is not a science podcast, 518 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta be careful here. So here's what 519 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: I did. I said, I need to talk to some 520 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: experts who might know more about this, and I found 521 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: one of the top experts in the world, doctor Nicole Sharp. 522 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: This is a lady who has a PhD in aerospace 523 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: engineering specializing in fluid dynamics, and she knows all about 524 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: this topic. She even wrote a whole big web page 525 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: about this. Her website is called fly Fluid Dynamics dot com. 526 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's f why not fly f y fluid 527 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: dynamics dot com. 528 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff that I do. See. 529 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: If you ever go out on a date with me, 530 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna be really bored. Because I'm gonna see here 531 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: and talking about visiting five fluid Ninavics dot com. As 532 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: we're having cocktails and talking about the properties of an 533 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: electrified drop of water as it encounters an uncharged surface, 534 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: I asked her if if she thought that a charge 535 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: drop of water would uh not splash if it hit 536 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: an uncharged body of water. And she wrote back and 537 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: she said probably. She said, I would think the charge 538 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: would dissipate pretty quickly on impact, and you get something 539 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: pretty similar to whatever an uncharged drop would do at 540 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: the same size and speed. But I won't swear to it. 541 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: So I don't know if this experiment has actually been done. 542 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: But this, my friends, this may be the explanation for 543 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: how that highly charged UFOs are able to sort of 544 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: go brands medium if you will, to go from the 545 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: air into the ocean without causing a splash. We may 546 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: have solved the mystery of the physics of how that happens. 547 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: We have to come back from a break. 548 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: When we do, I'll wrap this up, and then I 549 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: want to tell you about a place that I recently 550 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: visited and something I think a story that you're really 551 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: going to enjoy. I thought this was pretty crazy. It 552 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: has to do with ice age fossils, not dinosaurs, ice age. 553 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm Joshua pe Warren. 554 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Range Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 555 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: to Coast AM para normal podcast network, and I will 556 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: be right back. 557 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition. 558 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: Of Strange Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 559 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 560 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: I am your host, Joshua P. 561 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: Warren, And yeah, I think that what we are learning 562 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: here about the behavior of a charged drop of water 563 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: hitting a surface may explain part of why these UFOs 564 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: traveling in and out of the water in places like 565 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, these usos, they do not make a splash. 566 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: And this is an. 567 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: Example of how something is as simple as that can 568 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: dramatically change the way we start thinking about the quote 569 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: unquote laws of physics. Let's experiment more with this, let's 570 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: look into that more deeply. And that reminds me of 571 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: another odd scientific story that I want to share with you. 572 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, trivia question. What do 573 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: you think the differences between a mammoth, you know, like 574 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: the elephants that lived in the ice age of mammoth 575 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: and a mastodon. I'll give you a couple seconds to 576 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: think about that. Mammoth and mastodon, Well, here is what 577 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: I had learned. While both belonged to the elephant family, 578 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: a family, these were distinct animals with key differences in appearance, diet, 579 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: and habitat. Mastodons were generally shorter and stockier, with a lower, 580 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: longer skull, and smaller ears. They had come shaped molars, 581 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: indicating they were browsers that ate twigs and branches. Mammoths, 582 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: on the other hand, were taller and more slender, with 583 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: higher domed skulls and larger ears. Their flat molars suggest 584 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: that they were grazers who ate grass. I recently did 585 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: a show and I said, what am I holding in 586 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: my hand? And nobody got it? And it was a 587 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: chunk of petrified wood, and I talked a little bit 588 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: about that. Well, I'm holding something else in my hand 589 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: right now. It's in my left hand. See if you 590 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 1: can guess it. What do you think it is? How 591 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: psychic are you? I've kind of given you some hints. 592 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm holding in my left hand a replica of a 593 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: saber tooth cat tooth. I don't know would you call 594 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: these fangs. I don't know what the proper name, but 595 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, the big curved, sharp tooth that comes out 596 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: of like a saber toothed tiger's mouth. It's pretty wild 597 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: when you like, I just took out my tape measure 598 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: and measured this thing, and it's it's over seven inches. 599 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: It's curved like a banana, so it's actually longer than 600 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: seven inches. But if you just consider from tip to tip, 601 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: it's seven inches. Imagine running into a cat here in 602 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas area that has teeth like that. And 603 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: I say that because they used to live around here. 604 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: And I know that because that there is well, there's 605 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of good museums in this area 606 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, where I live. It used to be under 607 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: a vast ocean millions of years ago, and then somewhere, 608 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, in like what do they call it? I'm 609 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: not I will just call it the ice age. Let's 610 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: see one hundred and fifteen thousand to eleven thousand, seven 611 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: hundred years. Okay, let me put it this way. You're 612 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of ridiculous to try to imagine these numbers. 613 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: So there were wetlands here in what is now this 614 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: dry desert roughly one hundred thousand years to eleven thousand, 615 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: seven hundred years ago. We're not talking about millions of 616 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: years ago. The dinosaurs, I guess, were long long long 617 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: gone by then, though. This is when we had we 618 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: had the Ice Age. And it turns out that right 619 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas, what is now Las Vegas, there 620 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: was an area which now has become famous for being 621 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: one of the largest collections of Ice Age fossils found 622 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: anywhere in the entire world. And just last year they 623 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: opened up a museum. It's a state park. It's called 624 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: the Ice Age Fossils State Park, brand speak and new 625 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes north of my house. 626 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: I'd never been there before. I went there yesterday. 627 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: And it's really amazing to go to a brand new, 628 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: state run museum these days. You walk in the door 629 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: and it's still got that new car smell. And when 630 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: you go in there, they have all kinds of remains 631 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: from Colombian mammoths, American lions, dire wolves, saber tooth cats, 632 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: ancient bison, camels, ground sloths, horses, and lamas, all of 633 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: them gigantic, all of them really weird. They have all 634 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: these skeletons and reproductions and fossils, and you get to 635 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: go through and learn about all of these crazy animals 636 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: that lived in what was a beautiful swampy marshy land 637 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: thousands of years ago, but which is now, you know, 638 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: this desert that everybody is so familiar with. And you know, 639 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: when I grew up in western North Carolina, I was 640 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: always hoping and praying i'd find a fossil someday. But 641 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: from what I was told, nobody has ever found a 642 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: fossil in western North Carolina because the climate there has 643 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: always been too moist, and things they disintegrate and they 644 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: brought away. So I never actually found a fossil. But 645 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: out here there are fossils all over the place. And 646 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: so when I went there to this part, they had 647 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: these replicas of these They call them a saber tooth cat, 648 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's the same thing as 649 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: a saber tooth tiger. I didn't look that deeply into it, 650 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But so I'm hold this 651 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: big replica that I bought from this museum, the Ice 652 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: Age Fossils State Park Museum, that's a three hundred and 653 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: fifteen acre state park there by the way, just north 654 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: of Vegas. So, and so I'm holding this thing in 655 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: my hand that I bought there. And what I thought 656 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: was especially interesting is that I started talking to the 657 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: park ranger who was at the front desk after I 658 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: bought this, and she said, well, we have like a 659 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: really really fine replica back here. You know, I don't 660 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: know how much I paid for this, but I'm sure 661 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: hers was much more expensive the museum replica. So but 662 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: it was cool because she took out the museum replica 663 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: and held it up next to my replica and we 664 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: took a picture of it. And I mean they are 665 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: about the same. They're about the same. And I mean, 666 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to hold this saber tooth and just 667 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: like just poke it on your palm and imagine, oh 668 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: my god, now I'm poking it all over. Yeah, you'd 669 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: be you'd be dead, like immediately immediately if one of 670 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: those things bit you. But here's why I wanted to 671 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: bring this up. In the nineteen sixties, scientists were there 672 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: excavating the heck out of this area because they were 673 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: trying to find evidence that human beings lived in the 674 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: area longer ago than was believed. Because humans have lived 675 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: here in this area for thousands of years, but they 676 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: thought that humans might have been here even longer, even 677 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 1: farther before them. So all these scientists had this major, 678 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: major research project, and they actually weren't interested in the 679 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: fossils as much as they were interested in finding human 680 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: relics that were aligned with the fossils, right, And it 681 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: turns out that they were wrong, Like there were people 682 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: who lived through thousands of years ago, but not that 683 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: long ago. And so the scientists, because they had this 684 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: agenda of wanting to prove this certain thing and it 685 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: turned out to be wrong, well, they just got exasperated 686 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: and they left everything. And then nobody did anything with 687 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: this property for decades. And then there were all of 688 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: these new scientists in the two thousands that became interested 689 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: in going back to this site just to look at 690 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: the fossils. So they started going back and digging through 691 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: this earth that these other scientists had gone through in 692 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. And as they're digging, digging, digging, oh 693 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: my goodness, they find something amazing. They find a huge 694 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: tusk of a mammoth. They call it the Tuscany tuff, 695 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: The Tuscany tusk huge tusk. 696 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: Of a mammoth. But here's the kicker. 697 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: It's been under the ground for god knows how long, right, 698 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: but it was wrapped in newspaper dated from nineteen sixty three. 699 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: Apparently the tusk of this mammoth was excavated during what 700 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: they called the Big Dig almost fifty years earlier. But 701 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: since those scientists had to focus on finding human made artifacts, 702 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: those researchers likely determined the tusk was unimportant to their 703 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: investigation and just wrapped it in paper and reburied it. 704 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: And that is how scientists think about tunnel vision, proving 705 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: a particular agenda, and this is why we must open 706 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: our minds. I wish I could say more about this, 707 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 1: but the clock is Godess. Take a deep breath, close 708 00:48:48,719 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: your eyes if you can. Here is the good Fortune tone. 709 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me 710 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: at Joshua P. 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