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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,
Speaker 2: Jamie Franklin joins. She is the founder of Conservator. She
Speaker 2: is a conservative Generation Z commentator, right your gen Z,
Speaker 2: which is exciting. I'm an old millennial, so I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, I used to be hip. But we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the Kamala campaign here, And first off,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that you're going to explain this to me. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're coming from a young, young female conservative perspective, this
Speaker 2: call her Daddy interview that Kamala did. I don't really
Speaker 2: I had heard of this before this podcast. I've heard
Speaker 2: a couple of clips of it. What I was shocked
Speaker 2: by was how popular this apparently is. Like, tell me
Speaker 2: about this, because I feel like I had no idea.
Speaker 2: There are so many young women out there who want
Speaker 2: to hear the kind of stuff that this woman's talking about.
Speaker 2: So where did this call her Daddy phenomenon come from?
Speaker 1: I know it's it's honestly a little depressing. I think
Speaker 1: it's rated right now. The second most popular podcasts in
Speaker 1: America behind Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, I feel like, is
Speaker 1: what a lot of guys listen to, which you know, talks.
Speaker 1: He brings on scientists, Amazon expert people who explore the
Speaker 1: Amazon and everything.
Speaker 2: I listened to that Amazon guy by the way, that
Speaker 2: was really interesting. I liked the bee lady too, who
Speaker 2: does all the bees like like this? You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that one anyway, that's Rogan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has some interesting guests on that I think
Speaker 1: bring a lot of interesting information. Call Her Daddy is
Speaker 1: very different. She started a few years ago. I've never
Speaker 1: listened really. I actually listened to the Kamala episode too
Speaker 1: for this podcast. I had to do it for everyone,
Speaker 1: but that was the only podcast I've ever listened to
Speaker 1: of hers. But it's huge if young women. I think
Speaker 1: it's a huge part of the cold sure that we're
Speaker 1: seeing today. And I think a lot of conservatives were
Speaker 1: really shocked after the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 3: Wade how popular abortion is with women.
Speaker 1: And I definitely think her and other outlets are exactly
Speaker 1: the reason for that. It's, you know, just the epitome
Speaker 1: a fifth wave of feminism and just cultural decay and
Speaker 1: sexual promiscuity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stuff that I was here in And again,
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like, you know, I got
Speaker 2: a little touch of gray in the beard here. I
Speaker 2: don't want to sound like the old man who's like,
Speaker 2: what are the kids talking about these days? But the stuff,
Speaker 2: I mean, what she gets into on that podcast. I've
Speaker 2: seen some clips. It's like very graphic. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: about as graphic as words can be. And Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: wants to be president. She's sitting there, she does very
Speaker 2: few interviews. Why does she choose Call her Daddy as
Speaker 2: the podcast that she's going to sit down with among
Speaker 2: just a handful that she has done.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're definitely vying for the young woman vote.
Speaker 1: That's the base of the Democratic Party now it's all
Speaker 1: young women. I mean someone tweeted out that Trump went
Speaker 1: on Dave Ramsey last week to talk about the economy
Speaker 1: and Kamala went on Call Her Daddy to talk about
Speaker 1: abortion and all of those issues, and so definitely shows
Speaker 1: the contrast on you know.
Speaker 3: Where the base of the party and the issues are.
Speaker 3: I was in shock.
Speaker 1: I went on her Twitter they call her daddy Twitter
Speaker 1: and I typed in some key words when we were
Speaker 1: pulling up some graphics to put out on the Conservator,
Speaker 1: and I was actually in shock by some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I read on there. It's it's really depraved, Like
Speaker 1: it's very upsetting and depressing that this is what a
Speaker 1: lot of women, especially young women who are coming of
Speaker 1: age and might not know better, and this is what.
Speaker 3: They are consuming on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we need to have media
Speaker 1: outlets that attract more women and counteract these messages because
Speaker 1: it's I think really damaging to young women if they
Speaker 1: behave and if they follow the advice of Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're you're a young conservative woman. You've
Speaker 2: got conservatur which you founded online, and so I know
Speaker 2: there are some places for women who have a young
Speaker 2: women who have a right of center opinion to go to.
Speaker 2: But it does feel like the ecosystem, especially for women
Speaker 2: aged sixteen to thirty, you know, or eighteen to thirty five,
Speaker 2: or however you want to slice the demographic, they're just there.
Speaker 2: It's dominated by these far left voices, like young women
Speaker 2: have been you know, men are going in the other direction.
Speaker 2: Young men are going in the other direction. Young men
Speaker 2: are becoming increasingly conservative, it feels like young women are
Speaker 2: becoming increasingly left wing. What's going on?
Speaker 3: I could not agree more.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of conservative men, like yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to go and pick up
Speaker 1: Vogue magazine right when you're at the airport like women do.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel a lot of you guys saw
Speaker 1: this coming. But that was really the reason why I
Speaker 1: started the Conservatoire back in twenty twenty, because I was
Speaker 1: just I always wanted to go into fashion actually, and
Speaker 1: I was interested being a journalist and I went to
Speaker 1: fashion school and all these things when I was also
Speaker 1: went to Berkeley, but I did both, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I don't belong here, like there's no place
Speaker 1: for this. And when I was at Berkeley as well,
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe, you know, I grew up going
Speaker 1: to Catholic school my entire life, and just going to
Speaker 1: cal Berkeley and seeing the culture there, especially with young
Speaker 1: women and kind of along the lines of what they
Speaker 1: talk about and call her daddy. I was shocked by it.
Speaker 1: But it's they've definitely captured the young woman vote. It's
Speaker 1: we need to dig ourselves out of this hole. I'm
Speaker 1: really happy with the way that the male vote is going,
Speaker 1: which which is why I think you see like Trump
Speaker 1: going on in Theobonne and stuff like that, and with
Speaker 1: the milk boys.
Speaker 3: But call her daddy.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know the political calculus of how
Speaker 1: that's going to come out, because I think it'd be
Speaker 1: really off turning to a lot of especially male independence.
Speaker 1: And I think also in light of her Kane, Helene
Speaker 1: just looked very tone death and the fact that she
Speaker 1: doesn't even do any other interviews. And I listened to
Speaker 1: her interview and it was once again another word salad
Speaker 1: where I learned absolutely nothing about any of her policies.
Speaker 3: Or what she plans to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is the case that Kamala Harris does remind
Speaker 2: everybody why she doesn't do interviews when she does interviews.
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Speaker 2: Jamie kamala is were a few weeks away from the elections?
Speaker 2: Crazy right? I think three and change from the actual
Speaker 2: election day. And all of a sudden she does a
Speaker 2: flurry of media, She does all these interviews. What's up
Speaker 2: with that? I thought she was avoiding the press. Is
Speaker 2: it because she's losing? Do you think this was always
Speaker 2: part of their plan? What's the game here?
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely interesting because they were hiding her for
Speaker 1: a very long time, So to me, that signals I
Speaker 1: think that there's some internal pulling showing that people are
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with her. I think Democrats had a really smart
Speaker 1: job by moving her in at the last minute, like
Speaker 1: what was it, two and a half months before this election,
Speaker 1: so we could purposely not learn more about her policies
Speaker 1: and honestly, her incompetency when it comes to interviewing and
Speaker 1: being able to explain anything. I kind of I agree
Speaker 1: a lot with Trump. I don't think she's an incredibly
Speaker 1: smart person, and I think she can't think on her feet.
Speaker 1: I think she was performed actually better than I thought
Speaker 1: she in the debate, because she is she memorizes the
Speaker 1: lines and can get them out. But when it's off
Speaker 1: the cuff, she's obviously not doing well. But it kind
Speaker 1: of feels like a hail Mary here. So I think
Speaker 1: we should feel happy that they're feeling like they have
Speaker 1: to go here.
Speaker 2: Did you hear in the sixty minutes interview, there's there's
Speaker 2: a clip where she says, I have the quote because
Speaker 2: I really want to have this is the word for
Speaker 2: word quote. Okay, Well, the question is something about n Yahoo, right, like, basically,
Speaker 2: do you stand with n Yahoo? Here's what she says, Well, Bill,
Speaker 2: the work that we have done has resulted in a
Speaker 2: number of movements in that region by Israel that were
Speaker 2: very much prompted by or a result of many things,
Speaker 2: including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Speaker 2: That is a way of saying, we did some things
Speaker 2: that made some stuff happened to some things that were
Speaker 2: also things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think she's also in the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is in a really tough place right now, honestly because
Speaker 1: their base is just anti Trump. So they kind of
Speaker 1: have like some of these never Trump Republicans that are
Speaker 1: kind of probably a little bit more conservative on a
Speaker 1: lot of policies, especially with the economy and on some
Speaker 1: social issues. And then they have palaes signed flag wheeling,
Speaker 1: blue haired. They the pronoun people also in their party,
Speaker 1: so anytime they speak, they're going to cause divisions within
Speaker 1: their party. So I do think in a way, like
Speaker 1: once again, I do think it's also she can't explain
Speaker 1: a lot of these policies herself because she doesn't do
Speaker 1: the background and prep needed for it. But I also
Speaker 1: think she's scared about like alienating people in their base
Speaker 1: because it's a very fractured party when you actually get
Speaker 1: down to the issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that you see that also with
Speaker 2: the Israeli Palestinian issue, right, that's and which comes up
Speaker 2: in the context of net Yahoo. She's out there trying
Speaker 2: to tell everybody that we stand with Israel, but she
Speaker 2: doesn't stand with net Yahoo and she's not sure about
Speaker 2: the Israeli military response to October seventh than you and
Speaker 2: I are sitting here talking on the anniversary of October seventh.
Speaker 2: I don't think she can have it both ways with this.
Speaker 2: I think Democrats are caught a little bit here with
Speaker 2: the both sides ism of well, I stand with Hamas,
Speaker 2: but I also stand with Israel. You can't. You can't
Speaker 2: actually do.
Speaker 1: That, I agree, And I've I've heard that her polling
Speaker 1: with Arab Americans in Michigan is really bad because of
Speaker 1: that as well. And so I think there it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard for us to believe that people wouldn't stand
Speaker 1: with Israel because we're our party is so pro Israel,
Speaker 1: and you know, just like honoring those lives that were
Speaker 1: lost and the hostage is still in there because of
Speaker 1: the Biden administrations and competence and so. I but I
Speaker 1: think she's in a tough place because I do think
Speaker 1: probably it breaks down maybe if I had to guest
Speaker 1: like seventy thirty within her party and so, and that's
Speaker 1: a big issue for the people who are pro Palestine.
Speaker 3: A lot of them may.
Speaker 1: Hold out votes for her because they feel so passionately
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: We'll come back into the campus protests. Have you seen,
Speaker 2: by the way, I have friends in New York City
Speaker 2: sending me video from today of some of these protests
Speaker 2: that are happening out on the streets in solidarity with
Speaker 2: Palestine and Hamas, or the Palestinians rather in Hamas. So
Speaker 2: we'll get into it. We'll get into this kind of
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Speaker 2: You graduated with like five years ago or something, right,
Speaker 2: so you have more of a three years ago to
Speaker 2: how far or okay, all right, I was, I was
Speaker 2: like right in this in the zone four years ago.
Speaker 2: So you were on campus recently, you know, it's like, honestly,
Speaker 2: like I there there were a lot of uh, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pro Palestine sentiment and stuff. I
Speaker 2: went to Amherst. A lot of that there twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: a long time ago. You were like, you know, riding
Speaker 2: chariots to our classes and everything. But were you surprised
Speaker 2: by the crazy stuff going on after October seventh on
Speaker 2: campus or are you like, no, that's just how it is.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Like, what was this
Speaker 2: just the the breakthrough of the reality that there's this
Speaker 2: pro terrorist, anti semitism lunacy across elite schools. By the way,
Speaker 2: I mean you went to Berkeley.
Speaker 1: I was not shocked at all going to Berkeley. I
Speaker 1: it wasn't as big actually when I was at cal So.
Speaker 1: I was at col between twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So the big issue when I was there was remember
Speaker 1: the fake, whipped up story about the border camps and everything.
Speaker 1: They were saying that we were putting concentration camps on
Speaker 1: the border because of Trump's policies down there, which was
Speaker 1: actually Obama implemented that and Trump overturned it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so I was in too shocked because I did see
Speaker 1: a little bit of that when I was at Cow.
Speaker 1: But I will say when I was at Berkeley, I
Speaker 1: don't think you know, there is segments of the pro
Speaker 1: Palestine faction that are extremely pro Palestine, but there are
Speaker 1: also a lot of especially the American students, it's more
Speaker 1: this anti Western culture and for them, Israel and America
Speaker 1: both represent Western culture, colonialism and everything, so it more
Speaker 1: has to do with that. So I was in no
Speaker 1: way shocked. I was disgusted still, but like I said,
Speaker 1: I was at cal all those years, and I think
Speaker 1: people are just they'll go along with every movement in
Speaker 1: order to get out there with their signs and feel
Speaker 1: like they're doing something.
Speaker 3: It's it's their religion. On the left, and.
Speaker 2: You know when you see the the kinds of slogans
Speaker 2: and everything that came out after the October seventh attack,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know they were projecting. I think it
Speaker 2: was a GW from the river to the sea on
Speaker 2: a building at GW, which is which is a a
Speaker 2: a rallying cry of Hamas and other terrorist groups in
Speaker 2: the region to eliminate the entirety of the Jewish state. Harvard,
Speaker 2: which I know is supposed to be so fancy, right,
Speaker 2: Harvard had thirty student groups a year ago, almost of
Speaker 2: the day, because I think they came out within a
Speaker 2: couple of days of the attack. Thirty different student groups
Speaker 2: came out and said that it was Israel's fault what
Speaker 2: happened on October seventh. I mean even for me, you know,
Speaker 2: I started and I worked for US Ambassador Dennis Ross,
Speaker 2: who was Clinton's negotiator for the Camp David Accords. I
Speaker 2: worked the Washington Stuphreneur's policy I was on the CICIA
Speaker 2: CTC desk some of that stuff. When they came out
Speaker 2: and I saw that at Harvard, I was like, this
Speaker 2: is insane, Like these people they're blaming Israel for an
Speaker 2: attack that just happened.
Speaker 1: I remember I commented and posted Bears for Palestine, which
Speaker 1: is Cal's Palestine group, and they were celebrating the people
Speaker 1: who went in and put babies in ovens and slaughtered families.
Speaker 1: To the point when I was like seeing these images
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I actually brought tears to my like I
Speaker 1: couldn't even like it just was so horrific, Like I
Speaker 1: thought nine to eleven was the most horrific thing that
Speaker 1: could ever happen, and I do think this in some
Speaker 1: way was like more barbaric and like the way that
Speaker 1: this attack was done, and so it just I when
Speaker 1: I read that that they were celebrating these people as martyrs.
Speaker 1: It was just it's almost you have to almost think,
Speaker 1: is this ignorance, like they don't understand what they're supporting,
Speaker 1: And just the anti Americanism throughout all of these college
Speaker 1: through all of our colleges and through our education system
Speaker 1: has just brainwashed people or these people truly like supporting evil.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot of divisions in
Speaker 1: this country, with especially young people, where people have a
Speaker 1: lot of malice for one another.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on back. Have
Speaker 3: a great day.