Speaker 1: Yet get gettle boys. It's back and rehoaded all in
Speaker 1: your mind, yeah, and a deep throating. This is for
Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth,
Speaker 1: the scapegoating, and they ain't know wing. We speak the truth,
Speaker 1: so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North
Speaker 1: South East coach, the gv my keeping your head bobbing,
Speaker 1: it ain't no stopping and wants to be tricks head
Speaker 1: by and then the system is so corrupt they throw
Speaker 1: the rock out of the heads and then blame it
Speaker 1: on us. Don't get it twisted on code and we
Speaker 1: ain't dance it for no furtament biscuits. It's Willie d
Speaker 1: y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively, we are to
Speaker 1: get old boys. You tuned in to get old boys reloaded.
Speaker 1: Now why do we call it reloaded? Well for the
Speaker 1: four or five people on the planet that don't know
Speaker 1: to get old boys. We started our career off in
Speaker 1: the music industry, specifically hip hop, and the foundation of
Speaker 1: our message has always been to inform and to what
Speaker 1: educate and what ship instruct You see, inform, educate and
Speaker 1: instructor and inform people about what's going on. In the world,
Speaker 1: educate them about what's going on in the world, and
Speaker 1: instruct them on how to navigate through all of that stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: So this is how we come to Get Old Boys Reloaded. Right,
Speaker 1: And so we're reloading. We're taking that same information and
Speaker 1: we have bottled it up and putting it out into
Speaker 1: the podcast world. Scarface came to me and he said,
Speaker 1: wall you canna come to me? Called He called me. Okay,
Speaker 1: he called me and he was like, say, well you
Speaker 1: want to do this Get Old Boys podcast? And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I see it here, yeah, stop lying.
Speaker 1: So I said, hell yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: So he gets what. He makes a phone call, gets
Speaker 1: shall Man on the phone. Sharlot Man say hell yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to do that, Let's do it. So here
Speaker 1: we are, fam uh Get Old Boys Reloaded. And this
Speaker 1: is the first episode of Get Old Boys Reloaded. And listen,
Speaker 1: fam there's absolutely no other person on this planet that
Speaker 1: would have been qualified to do this first episode, were
Speaker 1: more qualified to do this first episode than the man
Speaker 1: in my left and the man that you know as
Speaker 1: j Prince. Uh. We go back to Little Jay. He
Speaker 1: dig what I'm saying. This is the guy that I know.
Speaker 1: This is the guy that I have a lot of
Speaker 1: respect for. And I think that uh, I think that
Speaker 1: did the culture period owes him a debt of gratitude,
Speaker 1: no matter what you may think of him. Uh, I
Speaker 1: think the culture owes him a debt of gratitude because
Speaker 1: he you know, he paid the price. You know. It's
Speaker 1: one thing for somebody to say, hey, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta, I got an idea, I got a vision.
Speaker 1: It's a whole another thing when somebody says, not only
Speaker 1: do I have an idea, I got a vision, I'm
Speaker 1: putting up my paper to do it. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that's what he did, Ladies and gentlemen
Speaker 1: in the building, Like, uh, I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to say this man, So I'm just gonna just see
Speaker 1: his name up J. Prince in the building. You know
Speaker 1: what living and living color a y'all doing? Bro oh man, beautiful, beautiful? Uh,
Speaker 1: perhaps not as beautiful as you've been doing lately. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean you're making some noise. Well you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep it moving, man, you know, as
Speaker 1: we all as we know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's the movement over the moment. So I've been
Speaker 1: blessed to stay moving. Man, You've been blessed with a vision, man,
Speaker 1: And I always talk about that vision, man, like how
Speaker 1: did you see this ship? Bro? Like? How did you
Speaker 1: see me and Willie and Bill and Red? And how
Speaker 1: did you you know what what happened? Man? How did
Speaker 1: you visualize us going out to the ranch. No, we
Speaker 1: didn't even know each other. We don't even know each other.
Speaker 1: You remember that first ride, that first ride? I think
Speaker 1: what happened the astro van. I'm talking about the astro van.
Speaker 1: We got a story before that one though. Before that,
Speaker 1: So James had pulled up to our apartment, right, they
Speaker 1: were like, man, who is that? Bro? As a white
Speaker 1: band white five hundred bons too though convertible with the
Speaker 1: black top like Mann knocked on the dope man? Jay
Speaker 1: walked in, Man, and that there like we're kids, like
Speaker 1: me and Beato. We're kids. We never seen so many
Speaker 1: diamonds in our life. The boy he walked in that
Speaker 1: motherucking like nigga rock you Bro. He was out of
Speaker 1: that and I was like, man, how did you find us?
Speaker 1: How did you find me? Man? Well, you know it's
Speaker 1: uh it's a small world. You popped up at my door.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just know people and no people that
Speaker 1: know people. That man pulled up at my house with it,
Speaker 1: and then he pulls up at my house. But before
Speaker 1: that he came to me said, well, I got this idea.
Speaker 1: I want to I want you to be a ghetto boy.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I don't want being a group,
Speaker 1: like I don't want group and uh and he was like,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, man, uh, I got this dude on the
Speaker 1: South Side at the time. He was calling Action, you
Speaker 1: know Action. He was like DJ Action, you know, and
Speaker 1: I want to put you out, you know, I want
Speaker 1: you and him and it's other bar to being a
Speaker 1: creel right boom, something like I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in a groupe. And he was like, do it for me.
Speaker 1: That's simple. You know what I'm saying. Bind you The
Speaker 1: man two years old, a couple of years he's only
Speaker 1: a couple of years older than me. But when he
Speaker 1: said look look, uh he said do it for me, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like this this dude, at all the
Speaker 1: people in the world, this is the this is the
Speaker 1: dude that's saying you know what, I see your talent,
Speaker 1: and I want to invest in it. So I couldnt
Speaker 1: say no to that when he when he put it
Speaker 1: like that, You've always had a way with words. Was
Speaker 1: that a lot of people listen to you and they
Speaker 1: respect you know how you vocalize things, you know, and
Speaker 1: they respect your mind growing up? You know, like who
Speaker 1: influenced you? Who was that person that you looked at
Speaker 1: and said, man, you know, and I like how he
Speaker 1: moved you know. I want to and I want to
Speaker 1: pick up some of those days. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: to say. It begun with my mother, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It begun with my mother. Always tell everybody
Speaker 1: over my my hero. Wow. I mean, so I watched
Speaker 1: I watched her, I watched her struggles, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I watched the movements, and uh, I was
Speaker 1: influenced bomb And then it was my grandmother, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the same thing, you know, the work
Speaker 1: ethic um, the struggles, the trials and tribulations like inspired
Speaker 1: me as a as a youth, as a young boy,
Speaker 1: and and I vowed at the age of like seven
Speaker 1: eight years old, and I wanted to be the one
Speaker 1: to break the poverty curse that existed in my family.
Speaker 1: Because you know, every month people was crying and different
Speaker 1: things over lights, getting cut off, we didn't have food
Speaker 1: to eat, you know, different things like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: my eyes laid on my mother, grandmother first, and from
Speaker 1: now you know, I was I was willing to risk
Speaker 1: my life for that, for them to be able to
Speaker 1: have what they wanted, you know, and that's amiable. Like
Speaker 1: you grew up in a single parent household, right, and
Speaker 1: so I picked up some ways from my mom in
Speaker 1: terms of some some survival tactics that I was able
Speaker 1: to use to my benefit. Right now, these are females, right,
Speaker 1: and so with one think like J. Prince, They don't
Speaker 1: think nothing feminine about J Prince. Right. A lot of
Speaker 1: guys who are raised in single parent households or single mothers,
Speaker 1: raised by single mothers, sometimes they don't quite they don't
Speaker 1: quite get that the man, the man who the type thing.
Speaker 1: They don't come you know. They kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: get a lot of those similarities from their their their
Speaker 1: their their mother, you know, and they pick up a
Speaker 1: lot of those female ways. You know, you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So how did what I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: I got my ways and I got my ways that
Speaker 1: I picked up from my mom. I picked up conflict resolution.
Speaker 1: Conflict resolution for me from that I picked up from
Speaker 1: my mom was really, you don't have conflict resolution. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: conflict resolution. Don't have that, but go ahead listen. First
Speaker 1: of all, conflict resolution is simply to resolve conflict. You
Speaker 1: don't have that, but go ahead. Do you know you
Speaker 1: can resolve conflict all kind of ways, right ahead. Give
Speaker 1: me my credit for resolving it the way I resolved
Speaker 1: back in the day. You got that back in the day.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying right where I'm saying back then? All right, okay,
Speaker 1: so so but I learned to settle conflict with fist
Speaker 1: guns and insults. Okay, I know I learned. That's what
Speaker 1: my That's what I got from my mom. Right So
Speaker 1: going going from that, uh, I got I got that.
Speaker 1: But then there's other things that you know, people will
Speaker 1: tell you all the time that it takes a man
Speaker 1: to raise a man. So that respect, thing that you
Speaker 1: know that you know, standing for something, thing that that
Speaker 1: fighting the biggest fights, the biggest battles, the biggest gangsters, whoever,
Speaker 1: whoever bringing it. You know, if you, like you said
Speaker 1: in the song, the first album that we put out.
Speaker 1: If you want to go to war, I take you
Speaker 1: a war that right there. How do you how do
Speaker 1: you convey that to youngsters out there who may be
Speaker 1: being raised by mothers. And it's not to take away
Speaker 1: anything from single mothers, but there's a shortage of courage
Speaker 1: when it comes to me and young men out there.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think there's a shortage of courage
Speaker 1: and a shortage of ethics, a shortage of a street code,
Speaker 1: a shortage of respect that that I don't that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that a person can just get without
Speaker 1: having some type of male influence, whether that person be
Speaker 1: in front of you, in the household with you, or
Speaker 1: somebody you're watching on television or whatever. That's got to
Speaker 1: come from somewhere. Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely agree that
Speaker 1: a man role is important, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely uh a recipe of of a household where
Speaker 1: the man was missing, and so many of us uh
Speaker 1: uh I don't even want to call it a victim,
Speaker 1: but so many of us come from households where, uh,
Speaker 1: where boys don't raise their kids, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because we can't call them a man if they're abandoned
Speaker 1: their kids and they loved one. So so you know,
Speaker 1: you have to qualify to be called a man. So boys,
Speaker 1: you know, may disappeal whatnot and then would end up
Speaker 1: happening And what would happened to me where outside of
Speaker 1: a woman in racing me? Was the hood? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Filth war was homies on the blocks,
Speaker 1: was you know, step fathers. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I had males um in my life and a combination
Speaker 1: of or ways that helped shape and mold me to
Speaker 1: become you know, who I became. And that's that's why
Speaker 1: I like with the hood. I'm I'm so like adamant
Speaker 1: about those that abandoned the hood, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: once you make and when you know this place helped
Speaker 1: shape and mold you to become who you became. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I spent a lot of time with your dad, bro,
Speaker 1: and I would have put all of that, I would
Speaker 1: put all of all of what you are on him,
Speaker 1: because after hanging out with Earnest so much and so long,
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's you. Like you may not have
Speaker 1: known Earnest or may not have been with Earnest early
Speaker 1: part of your life. But man, you are Earnest prince
Speaker 1: to the t, like the whole thing and the brothers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't get away from no genetics, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Those genetics are who you are, whether you know,
Speaker 1: like I didn't know my my biological well, he was
Speaker 1: a guy, you know what I mean. They started calling
Speaker 1: me little prince before I knew who I was, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I missed that side of it.
Speaker 1: But it was real fruit for the baby to tap
Speaker 1: into him after I got grown. By the fact, it
Speaker 1: was a missing link, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was a board that no other male could feel. So
Speaker 1: that's how important it is for a man, for a
Speaker 1: father to be involved with his son. No nobody can
Speaker 1: feel those shoes, you know. The trip part about that
Speaker 1: mentioning Earnest is that from a distance, no one would
Speaker 1: ever could ever tell that he wasn't there all the
Speaker 1: time because y'all were like so much alike. It's it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, especially like you said, you can't get away
Speaker 1: from those prince genetics. You know, like if somebody looked
Speaker 1: at you two and be like, oh, that's the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely that's that's his side. Uh, but you know
Speaker 1: that was that was other things about about you that
Speaker 1: that you you definitely did different from your dad, right.
Speaker 1: You know, you took things to a different level and
Speaker 1: you made sure that you know, you didn't make certain mistakes, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: that that he made. Um. And so when you when
Speaker 1: you think about the route, the route that you you took, um,
Speaker 1: how much of how much of that route was happenstance
Speaker 1: and how much of it was was was purpose driven? Uh? YEA,
Speaker 1: if I had to chop that up, most of it
Speaker 1: definitely was was purpose driven, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm wide and and kind of program uh
Speaker 1: where I followed my spirit, my intuition, my disernment, you know,
Speaker 1: over freestyle and over just you know, luck or stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And it always been that way you know
Speaker 1: with me. And and the more I tune into my gifts,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, my spirit lead situations or
Speaker 1: my my intuition, my desernment, the more, uh, I think
Speaker 1: my decisions became more intelligent, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely more purpose driven. Over to that other piece. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you I've been noticing like over the last perhaps
Speaker 1: I would say two three years, you seem more at peace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're smiling, laugh a lot in public. You know,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't know that. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're a funny guy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the funny how you know, not funny? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's funny to you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: but but he got a good basically, he got a
Speaker 1: good sense of human Yeah. Yeah, you got a good
Speaker 1: sense of humor and you like to laugh right now now, um.
Speaker 1: But but a lot of people, a lot of people
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that about you. But lately it's like and
Speaker 1: it seemed like in the past you may have been
Speaker 1: guarded for that for whatever reasons, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But lately, last two three years, and I've seen you
Speaker 1: many many times, and I was like, man, ain't having
Speaker 1: a black you know? Yeah, I mean that you can
Speaker 1: see it, you know it is the little bitty house
Speaker 1: on Della. He moved out of there in bought the island.
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of should will change your life, Willie.
Speaker 1: No one in the Two Islands man, because y'all saw
Speaker 1: you said Prince Prince Island one, right, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Man, smiling like that. You know, well, well,
Speaker 1: it's deeper than that, you know, It's deeper than the
Speaker 1: material things, you know. I uh, I gotta joy and
Speaker 1: you know it's a time and a place for everything, right,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I always tell everybody I'm at
Speaker 1: like the beginning of the third quarter where my life
Speaker 1: is concerned, you know what I mean. I played uh
Speaker 1: first quarter, second quarter, now halftime is over. I'm at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the third. A lot of people, I
Speaker 1: believe they at the beginning of the fourth my age,
Speaker 1: but I'm just at the beginning of the third. So
Speaker 1: I figured out how to how to have fun, how
Speaker 1: to enjoy my life, how to do everything you know, uh,
Speaker 1: with moderation, you know what I mean. And how to
Speaker 1: weed out stress, you know what I mean. It's it's
Speaker 1: a combination of things that one can do to have
Speaker 1: a fruit for fulfilling life. And I figured it out.
Speaker 1: And make me laugh a little more now because ship
Speaker 1: I ain't dealing with you know what I mean, of
Speaker 1: things that I had to deal with in the past
Speaker 1: under graduated. I got to sit down with you again
Speaker 1: and get that you know when when I was a kid, right,
Speaker 1: j would come pick me up. Man, I'd be like, man, damn,
Speaker 1: because I knew that we was gonna ride for two days.
Speaker 1: So when I when I got to my when when
Speaker 1: I got to a point where I could buy my
Speaker 1: own car, I would just ride behind it. And so
Speaker 1: we go out to the ranch, man, and and not
Speaker 1: knowing that the jewels that he was like like he
Speaker 1: was a kid dropping jewels on a kid. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like those jewels man, that he gave me.
Speaker 1: You know, hanging is life. It's life jewels, bro, that
Speaker 1: you can take with you when you can use in
Speaker 1: any situation or any circumstance. Man, Man, I'm telling you, Man,
Speaker 1: I I tell you this all. Man. I appreciate you, bro,
Speaker 1: because I know for a fact coming out of that
Speaker 1: little house in South Asias where I grew up, and
Speaker 1: the ship that I was doing. Remember when you say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you can do what you gotta do one another. You
Speaker 1: can't wrap and sell this ship. So you know you
Speaker 1: want to sell that, I'm gone, you can't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be nowhere around it. Right. Yeah, I learned that, bro.
Speaker 1: Then you you gave me that and man, I appreciate that, Bro.
Speaker 1: You pulled me out that a little bit of ass house. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm living my life, Bro, I appreciate that. Man. The
Speaker 1: difference you know a lot of times, and it's important
Speaker 1: for all the youth and everybody that's watching this right now.
Speaker 1: Like I understood way back then that the FIDS and
Speaker 1: the people that was in a high place it was
Speaker 1: trying to stop our movement. So I understood that we
Speaker 1: could have had ninty nine percent of everything legal and
Speaker 1: one percent illegal, and they take that one percent and
Speaker 1: destroy our ninty nine that were building up on. So
Speaker 1: that's why I made statements like that, you can't straddle
Speaker 1: the fence, you know, I told all the homers, don't.
Speaker 1: You can't come in my business with one feet here
Speaker 1: the other feet in the drug game or whatever that is,
Speaker 1: because you know, this, this is a movement we got going.
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't buy no moment. So you know,
Speaker 1: my mindset was there back then, and it's important for
Speaker 1: for those who are really trying to build an empire
Speaker 1: to understand those principles because if not, that's why people
Speaker 1: empires and visions get destroyed by you know, outside forces
Speaker 1: and outside and individuals that really don't play no major
Speaker 1: role but doing some dumb ship bringing it back to
Speaker 1: the movement. You know, you was always super smart, man.
Speaker 1: It was always super smart and and in three or
Speaker 1: four steps ahead, and and that type of thinking man.
Speaker 1: That and you put that on me in Willie too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We way ahead everybody else. Man.
Speaker 1: That's that's like what brought that. Well, y'all had sense
Speaker 1: enough and had the smarts to show up and to
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, exercise that very thing that
Speaker 1: you wanted to become. Think about those that didn't, beginning
Speaker 1: with my own brother, you know what I'm gonna say that,
Speaker 1: because my own brother didn't have the strength to show
Speaker 1: up and follow the movement, and I started it for him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So y'all had that. Y'all
Speaker 1: had to work ethic true enough. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I come blow the horn and pick y'all up, But
Speaker 1: I ain't made you walk outside. I ain't made you
Speaker 1: write those dope rhymes and use that creativity y'all using.
Speaker 1: So you know, y'all, y'all done that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And all of that help our movement, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, what no eye? And we you know
Speaker 1: I had strengths, y'all had strengths. We've brought them all
Speaker 1: together and bam, you know what I mean, The Ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys came to fruition the very thing that laid the
Speaker 1: whole foundation for those that's born. Don't have no idea
Speaker 1: you know what they're standing on. Who built it? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But all that came from from
Speaker 1: our mind, from our movement way back, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And look how relevant it is the day,
Speaker 1: and look look at what's what's happening to day. Listen
Speaker 1: to that music, man, yeah, listen to that music from
Speaker 1: way back then and applied to right now, timeless man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And and it's you know what. And it
Speaker 1: started with doing like a gil. It started with us
Speaker 1: in the room. No no, no, I'm just saying as
Speaker 1: far as the first song, the first, but what I'm
Speaker 1: saying it was the first. It was the first Ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys song that all of us of you and Bill
Speaker 1: was on and and Read was on right do it
Speaker 1: like a jail. But me and Jay was at his
Speaker 1: house that day. They had a list of songs like this,
Speaker 1: like a list of like a damn tablet or something,
Speaker 1: a bunch of different song concepts and do it like
Speaker 1: a geo was one of them, and he's the one
Speaker 1: first told me what we what what you know, We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it like gil That means like anything in life,
Speaker 1: We're just gonna do it like a go you know
Speaker 1: whatever it is. That just means do it to to
Speaker 1: the highest level. Right and uh we purpose and so
Speaker 1: uh when we started talking about the song, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about just all the different elements of
Speaker 1: doing it like a geo. Social, political elements are doing
Speaker 1: it like a gail. So we're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this educational system, We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about this this governmental system. We're gonna talk about corruptions
Speaker 1: and dirty bankers and all of this stuff that that
Speaker 1: happens in in our community that uh that controlled by
Speaker 1: the oligorgy, right, you know the higher ups, you know
Speaker 1: the people that that basically run it. You're gonna talk
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're gonna, we're gonna, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about We're gonna we're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: and put them on blast and from from that moment
Speaker 1: on it was like I just feel like that song
Speaker 1: was really was like kind of like set the standard
Speaker 1: for what we would do, the unapologetic movement that we
Speaker 1: had going forward, and and and that, and that's to
Speaker 1: your credit man, And and you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people will say that, you know, ghetto boys. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: of course, me and Brad. You know we are responsible
Speaker 1: for the majority of writing everything. But it was those
Speaker 1: sees that you planned. Man. It was that you know,
Speaker 1: and and and being in that studio and I remember
Speaker 1: and here's another thing, like you were saying like earlier,
Speaker 1: like you didn't make us do it? Right? Uh you
Speaker 1: would like, uh, that's not true. Way I got hold on,
Speaker 1: he did make us do it because you know what
Speaker 1: he would do. He would drive us way out into
Speaker 1: the middle of no fucking where and leave us for
Speaker 1: were we still didn't have to do it. Could have
Speaker 1: walked off, like go home. How how did you boys
Speaker 1: get on? He was dropped off? No, The beauty, the
Speaker 1: beauty of that war was, man. I mean, once again,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no eye and we because it was tried
Speaker 1: before y'all came, you know what I mean, People like
Speaker 1: jew Box and uh, other people couldn't even embrace it.
Speaker 1: It was too it was too heavy for them to
Speaker 1: even embrace, you know what I mean, or do it
Speaker 1: like a geo or different concepts. They told me I
Speaker 1: was too deep. This is what they said to me. Man,
Speaker 1: that's too deep. Man. People ain't gonna be able to
Speaker 1: understand that. But when I'm talking to Willie Deal, when
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was talking to people that understood English and was able
Speaker 1: to embrace it and execute it. So you know, we
Speaker 1: done that, you know, And I think it's important to
Speaker 1: mention this too for all these youngsters out here is
Speaker 1: trying to get on that you got. If you have mentors,
Speaker 1: you've got people that's invested in you, it's their money,
Speaker 1: like even you're gonna ride with their vision or you're not.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like if if I wrote
Speaker 1: something and it didn't come out like you wanted to
Speaker 1: come out, it was whack whatever in your opinion, you
Speaker 1: would say, man, I don't like that now that and
Speaker 1: you know what I would do. I didn't at the most,
Speaker 1: at the most, I might say. At the most, I
Speaker 1: might might say, well, what you don't like about it
Speaker 1: all right, okay, cool man, Well you know, all right,
Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board. Boom boom bam, got it,
Speaker 1: Just like that. A lot of these cats today, you know,
Speaker 1: you tell them, you know, you try to give him
Speaker 1: some constructive criticism, and and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: you run it on their parade, you know, like you
Speaker 1: you against them, and so they get defeated when you
Speaker 1: asked when when somebody try to give them construction construct criticism,
Speaker 1: and so therefore they never even get to that, They
Speaker 1: never even get to a point to where the world
Speaker 1: can witness that their talents. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: The house that you built we're gonna call We're gonna
Speaker 1: call the this state the house that James built. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about the REP scene right now? Um?
Speaker 1: The REP scene right now? Um? I'm not mad at it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not salute the youngsters
Speaker 1: for you know, building uh what they're building with the
Speaker 1: best of you know what they have to work with,
Speaker 1: ye to work with, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I think I even take responsibility, but that to a
Speaker 1: certain extent. Yeah, because I think I think we all should,
Speaker 1: because they studied us. You know what I mean, we
Speaker 1: came before them, you know what I mean, We actually
Speaker 1: are influential on a lot of what's taking place right now.
Speaker 1: So we have to own that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: We have to own that, whether we want to or not.
Speaker 1: You know, the realization of it is, you know, it's true,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Not probably not the style
Speaker 1: of which they are rapping in different things like that,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of substance for what I know
Speaker 1: I've done and for what I witness, you know, where
Speaker 1: music is concerned, that's influential. I think the content, uh,
Speaker 1: like you said, needs to be a little stronger. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they thought that about Motown. You know, every
Speaker 1: generation have their opinion about you know, the generation that
Speaker 1: come after them, So that's legal to feel that way.
Speaker 1: But by the same token, their generation is in love
Speaker 1: with what they're doing, you know what I mean, a
Speaker 1: little strong Yeah, I think, Uh, I mean I'm personally,
Speaker 1: I personally for uh songs with messages. I like, I
Speaker 1: like lyrics. I like somebody that's saying some substance, right uh.
Speaker 1: Having said that, you know, like my thing is like
Speaker 1: to inform, Like I loved the artists that informed people,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it gets lost in translation if there's no
Speaker 1: instructions behind in for information, right and yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that and and that's the thing that I I can
Speaker 1: say that U, that we did well was that we
Speaker 1: always instructed. We didn't just talk about the struggle music.
Speaker 1: We gave you, uh a blueprint on how to get
Speaker 1: through the struggle. We didn't just talk about the struggle.
Speaker 1: And that's to me, it's very very important when it
Speaker 1: comes to artistry. He did. Yeah, agree, I agree with that. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think you know, even back then, it was
Speaker 1: those that wasn't doing what we were doing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, we were it was. It was a
Speaker 1: beautiful combination. You know. I think it exists to day.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in defense, whether you talk concerned,
Speaker 1: I think it's something that still have different messages that
Speaker 1: they're trying to. Yeah, they may not as be as
Speaker 1: as popular because I don't think the message is as
Speaker 1: popular the day as it was. In fact. That that's
Speaker 1: an excellent that's that's an excellent point. Tell me about
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin, man talk about Rick Rubin that that was
Speaker 1: what that was like really in the beginning to Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin, Uh, I heard hold not to cut you off,
Speaker 1: but I heard you ain't like me dog in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, now, well I never I never heard Rick
Speaker 1: Rubin not liking you. I think Rick Rubin enjoyed the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys period as a whole, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel like Bill better and he liked he liked Bill,
Speaker 1: but he like you, Bro and Will and me Andry.
Speaker 1: He liked Bill the best. Well, once again, face, I
Speaker 1: had never you know what I mean, I hadn't spend
Speaker 1: that kind of time with the brother where he even
Speaker 1: because we would have said that to me then I
Speaker 1: would have had something to say about that. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: But Rick Rubin, you know, of course the history of
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin. He started Deaf Jam with with Russell Simmons,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And uh, Rick Rubin extended
Speaker 1: uh invitation and opportunity to us after we had went
Speaker 1: you know, I think gold On on which album was
Speaker 1: that ripping on the other level and it and Rick
Speaker 1: Rubin had something that like really got my attention that
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of, and that was
Speaker 1: the Geffing Machine at the time, David Geffin, You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you remember that, David Geffing Machine
Speaker 1: at the time was was a powerful machine. They had
Speaker 1: something everything. Yeah, that was Rick Rubin has left. But
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like if we could have that
Speaker 1: machine behind us, it would really take us to a
Speaker 1: whole different planet. And of course we know how that
Speaker 1: story and David Geffen discriminated on the ghetto board. Can
Speaker 1: you believe those hypocrits with descripted guns and roses and
Speaker 1: they're not our ship? They say we're a racist act.
Speaker 1: Ain't that kettle black man? You know it's been rumored
Speaker 1: that you are the unseen hand. Wow, yeah, they like
Speaker 1: they have labeled you a very dangerous man. Well, I
Speaker 1: wonder who what they do that? You know? My hands?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm everybody see me. Um, I I used
Speaker 1: to everybody see me. You know how they're doing the
Speaker 1: craft table you know that? Yeah, but you know how
Speaker 1: that is? Man. The rumors, uh they were did they
Speaker 1: existed back then? They existed now, they're gonna exist tomorrow. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think I'm more seen now than they've ever been. Man,
Speaker 1: I have never seen you know what funny thing? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm like social media, old man, I gonna never get
Speaker 1: on social media and then bam, Yeah, well, I'll call
Speaker 1: myself a justin to time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I have to learn to do that too. We can't
Speaker 1: never be one dimensional and stuff the dinosaur age. Know,
Speaker 1: I never allowed that to happen to myself. And when
Speaker 1: I came out with my book, you know, I knew
Speaker 1: it was time for me to promote my book and
Speaker 1: ignite let people see it. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just that time of the day. You know, people need
Speaker 1: to pick that book up too, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of jewels. It's it's a book full of jewels, man,
Speaker 1: and and everything that you did like growing up bro,
Speaker 1: and like wow respect wow yeah ja, what you think
Speaker 1: about people having something to say about you injecting yourself
Speaker 1: in the hip hop beefs and you know, trying to
Speaker 1: I guess bring some type of order. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have to repeat that that that. Uh. At first I
Speaker 1: started this gangster ship just the respect I get you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I thought that was as cute. Yeah, so you know
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for them, but them U say
Speaker 1: something stronger than that. I thought that was cute, man,
Speaker 1: Thank Himinem may have wrote that for him. I don't
Speaker 1: know who wrote it for, but I know he said
Speaker 1: I started this gangster ship and it's the motherfucker thanks.
Speaker 1: I get dr He's bad. That's a bad producer. It's
Speaker 1: a bad man. But um man, just we give all
Speaker 1: that success man, that came, you know in our career
Speaker 1: as well in my career. I give all that ship
Speaker 1: to you, bro, because you gave me some game that
Speaker 1: um it's fucking unmatched. I always tell people that, say, man,
Speaker 1: James was raised by wolves and I was raised by
Speaker 1: the wolf. So what you take that makes me? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean kidding, take take a WILLI d to say
Speaker 1: some ship like that about me? You know, you know
Speaker 1: we had always been a comedian. I remember one time,
Speaker 1: man William Bill was fighting in the limousine. I'm just
Speaker 1: I man, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into detail, man,
Speaker 1: but when Bill said trench coats and gangster pussies, Willie
Speaker 1: went ape ship in the limo. Now you weren't at
Speaker 1: that time, but man, can't you you know, every time
Speaker 1: they got into some ship, I just sit back and
Speaker 1: watch the show. Right. And then we all got more
Speaker 1: mature and he started ignoring Bill. Yeah, I always ignored Bill.
Speaker 1: And let's talk about this drink lawyer. You know, how
Speaker 1: did how did you come to talk about the alcohol
Speaker 1: industry for a person who had it is not known
Speaker 1: to be a drinker. You know, I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I think I probably ever saw you drink any
Speaker 1: type of alcohol. Was I had a I think I
Speaker 1: had a No, No, it wasn't my party. We were
Speaker 1: at a party at Fox Sports Grill and I bought
Speaker 1: your bottle and I was like, yeah, you know you
Speaker 1: like I bought your bottle of wine. That's the first
Speaker 1: time I ever saw you drink. But uh, very impressive man,
Speaker 1: you know, to see you get into this and to
Speaker 1: see you diversify before you went from you went from
Speaker 1: uh the music to boxing and now and now you
Speaker 1: are in the beverage business. Yeah, I'm really trying to
Speaker 1: diversify my portfolio. And as you said, well I was.
Speaker 1: I was a late bloomer when it came to drinking
Speaker 1: because I always wanted to stay focused. I never wanted
Speaker 1: nothing to end of the field with my focus. You know,
Speaker 1: in my twenties and my thirties, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna allow that, so I would I would
Speaker 1: have a glass of orange juice straight making everybody think
Speaker 1: I had gin and juice watching everything, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that was important to me to keep
Speaker 1: that focus. But as you can see now, you know
Speaker 1: my choice to drink is red wine because it's a
Speaker 1: help drink, you know what I mean. It got antoxidants,
Speaker 1: all the good stuff. Uh in, as long as you
Speaker 1: drink it with moderation, don't you got uncle then when
Speaker 1: Uncle don in in in wine country? Yeah? Did you
Speaker 1: drinking wine up there? Back then? I have had a
Speaker 1: glass or two up there with all That's the real
Speaker 1: that's the real. Step on on the grapes valley up there,
Speaker 1: half of valley in the hills. That's pretty dope. But
Speaker 1: it's been fun. You know. It's a real lucrative business.
Speaker 1: And actually I underestimated lawyer to you know, I pressed,
Speaker 1: I press. I'm thinking about CDs right anyway, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a half a million bottles and underestimated not a half
Speaker 1: a million bottles, a half a million dollars worth the material.
Speaker 1: And I underestimated it. Really one distrilled A bought everything
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm chasing it right now, trying to catch
Speaker 1: up with the sales. Yeah, So it's a that's a
Speaker 1: very good problem to have. Congratulations man, and then you
Speaker 1: fight your your your your fight game is on point.
Speaker 1: Everybody winning, and you got brand new fight squad right here.
Speaker 1: You want to introduced them the Mason five, you know,
Speaker 1: the Mason five there from Cleveland or our started. Bro Uh,
Speaker 1: they're just down here visiting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're down here visiting and we just chopping it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: observe Duela in Um in Streeport at the tournament. You know,
Speaker 1: he went the national tournament amateur, the tournament in Streeport, Louisanna,
Speaker 1: and he cleaned the slate and I was watching him.
Speaker 1: I watched his first fight. You know, this is like
Speaker 1: all the best fighters in in Houston, I mean in
Speaker 1: the United States that come together to compete. And he
Speaker 1: was sixteen years old. That's I'm doing. And you know
Speaker 1: I watched him like not only just like edge and
Speaker 1: badly beat these twenties something ye old men and different people,
Speaker 1: but like stopped. He stopped a couple of they stopped
Speaker 1: the fight. And he'd done this three times. You know.
Speaker 1: I watched one time, said was that luck? And I
Speaker 1: came back a couple of days later and the same thing.
Speaker 1: And then the grand finale was this guy, I think
Speaker 1: one like eleven Nationals, you know, Latino brother bad boy,
Speaker 1: and uh, he'd done the same thing, stopped dropped him
Speaker 1: the first role and uh, you know that was amazing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that was amazing because sixteen
Speaker 1: year old's not supposed to be able to beat up
Speaker 1: a grown man deliver like that, right, So you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I that was somebody I had to meet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And him as Fall and
Speaker 1: all his brothers have came down and we've been like,
Speaker 1: you know, chopping it up man, because someday I hope
Speaker 1: and pray that I can be in business with him. Yeah. Absolutely, Hey,
Speaker 1: talk to me about talk to us about um, the
Speaker 1: the press that the FEDS try to put on you.
Speaker 1: Not not going all the way back, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: about as for us, Like, I don't want you to
Speaker 1: go into details and all that. I'm just what I
Speaker 1: want to talk about. What I want you to impart
Speaker 1: on the audiences for all of these young inspiring black
Speaker 1: business people out there and even other people out there
Speaker 1: who who There's certain people in the government when we
Speaker 1: say government. We think of this big old entity, right,
Speaker 1: but the government is made of individuals, human beings with
Speaker 1: certain biases and convictions and stuff. Right, So these people
Speaker 1: may have their own uh thing. Person might wake up
Speaker 1: and see I don't like that guy, so he might
Speaker 1: target you and decide I want to target him. You know,
Speaker 1: how how do how do how do those people that
Speaker 1: are in business, are trying to make it in business?
Speaker 1: Uh make sure that they they can survive an attack,
Speaker 1: an unwarranted attack uh against them by particular individuals that
Speaker 1: work within the government. Yeah. Uh, that ain't gonna really
Speaker 1: be a short answer, but I'm I'm gonna do my best. Um.
Speaker 1: The attack on me begun years ago and it exists
Speaker 1: even till this day. And if you really think about it,
Speaker 1: because it was an attack on us, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I I kind of brought you all into
Speaker 1: that attack, and y'all stood up right there beside me,
Speaker 1: and you know, we went to war together. But it's
Speaker 1: so deep, you know what I mean, so deep, and
Speaker 1: I you know, I gotta I gotta philosophy, um, and
Speaker 1: a lot of different areas on why this happened, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I truly believe that they were
Speaker 1: trying to stop the movement of what's taking place today.
Speaker 1: They saw this coming to fruition, you know, everything that
Speaker 1: we were doing, you know, from from ground zero. They
Speaker 1: they recognize our mindsets, they recognize our actions. And then
Speaker 1: as we started evolving, you know what I mean, as
Speaker 1: we started growing and evolving and becoming successful, they they
Speaker 1: doubled down with the pressure. One of the things that's
Speaker 1: important to do when UH you are under attacked by
Speaker 1: fears or any police force, any anything, period, is to
Speaker 1: not be afraid to put the spotlight on it. And
Speaker 1: that's something we've done through our music over and over again,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We wanted to be the
Speaker 1: voice forget olds all over the world. So we aim
Speaker 1: together and you know in that room like this, we
Speaker 1: we we we we. UH was like minded in that
Speaker 1: attack to be a voice for everybody and put the
Speaker 1: spotlight on all the wrong doing and all the crookedness
Speaker 1: that they were doing, that they were conspiring to do,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the case was. We didn't allow fear,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, to keep us in bundange
Speaker 1: where they can totally destroyt And it's that word fear
Speaker 1: that that anybody on a business or whatever it's concerned.
Speaker 1: It's that word feel that you can't allow to paralyze you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because fear is not even
Speaker 1: of God. And if you're allowed to paralyze you, then
Speaker 1: you defeated. We never allowed that. We can't start allowing it. Uh, today, yesterday,
Speaker 1: all the day, so you know, put the spotlight on
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Yea man fears not even a god.
Speaker 1: A jewel you can have the a ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: you can have that. They gave you another good one.
Speaker 1: They gave you a good one. Fear is not of God. Man.
Speaker 1: So all you people out there ain't pickle, don't know
Speaker 1: about it now, but I'm gonna say this. I don't
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna don't say it. Here we go, all
Speaker 1: you people out there who believe in God. But you
Speaker 1: know you got this fear of certain people. You know,
Speaker 1: you got fear of even yourself and your capabilities. That's
Speaker 1: not of God. So you already off track. If you
Speaker 1: really really believe in God like you said you do,
Speaker 1: you should feel no man, no woman. You should fear nothing.
Speaker 1: If you really believe in God, you're the only one
Speaker 1: to feel feel you know what I mean. That's it,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's and that's the thing. You know,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, a lot of us never
Speaker 1: of our chance, ourself a chance because of that word fear. Man.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a paralyzing uh word that stop so
Speaker 1: many of us from you know, becoming who we were
Speaker 1: called or be meant to be or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Just imagine if we would
Speaker 1: have been stuck on fear. Imagine but it never happened,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. For example, the conversation with
Speaker 1: Larry Hoover, you know what I meant. I remember all
Speaker 1: the threats. I remember if you do this, this's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and that the different police departments out of Chicago. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting calls, you know what I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of the things and subject matters we spoke on was
Speaker 1: against you know the rules where y'all side mad they
Speaker 1: were you know what I mean, they came to my house,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we we never allowed
Speaker 1: that word to paralyze us. You know, even even though
Speaker 1: it was on comfortable, you know what I mean, it
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable, but you know, like are willing to die
Speaker 1: for some of those things, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, Okay, it is what it is. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stand on this to this capacity where I'm willing
Speaker 1: to leave all out for this. So it was that
Speaker 1: mind frame of strength, you know what I mean of
Speaker 1: not aligned feel to paralyze us in our movement. Man,
Speaker 1: that I think has made it for so many that
Speaker 1: that's unaware of it where hip hop is concerned. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to that fearing God that coming. So God
Speaker 1: is this spiritual thing, that being that we're supposed to
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be on our side, right, why should
Speaker 1: we fear somebody that's on our side? See? And I'm
Speaker 1: asking this question because you know, uh, I personally don't
Speaker 1: fear God, you know what I'm saying. So, Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm doing maybe I'm doing something wrong,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't fear God. I don't
Speaker 1: fear like I don't feel like a man on the
Speaker 1: planet because I feel like anything somebody can do to me,
Speaker 1: I can do to them. So I don't That's why
Speaker 1: I don't fear anybody like. I really just don't fear people, period.
Speaker 1: I don't fear and I don't fear people. I I'm
Speaker 1: not about to fear some guy in the sky or
Speaker 1: wherever he may be. And I know that it's very,
Speaker 1: very unpopular, and I'm sure I'm going to get some
Speaker 1: some some calls on this one, but I just got
Speaker 1: to put it out there. Fam, I just don't believe
Speaker 1: and I and I do believe in God, but I
Speaker 1: don't fear God. Well. I think it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you can say six and half a dozen and you
Speaker 1: can be talking about the same thing. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a matter of reverence in which I think you
Speaker 1: have where the Creator is concerned. And I think, uh,
Speaker 1: it's easy to like get spirituality and religious like mixed up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And a lot of people are.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to differentiate the two, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I know you with your thinking ability and with the
Speaker 1: capacity that you the reverence you have for God not
Speaker 1: saying anything disrespectful concerning him. But I understand you know
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. Others may not. But it's a
Speaker 1: reverence that you have and that's what's important, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. The important part is acknowledging that the Creator,
Speaker 1: it is all powerful with me, all power. He not
Speaker 1: a man, you know what I mean. He not somebody
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean? So I respect that,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm a humble myself where he is concerned.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think y'all feel the same way.
Speaker 1: And on with that and with that, FAM, we conclude
Speaker 1: the first episode of Ghetto Boys reloaded with the Great Jay, Prince, Badman, Brad,
Speaker 1: Scarface Jordan's and I am Willie D. Thank you for
Speaker 1: tuning in, FAM until next time, Oh yeah, please out.
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