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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: and Rhett back with you.

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Speaker 2: We are. We're moving on.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we knocked out the AFC preview. Today we're doing

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Speaker 1: the NFC preview. And unfortunately it's come down from on high,

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Speaker 1: from our big boss here, Drew Christensen, that no discussion

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Speaker 2: They put that through a focus group.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, like I mentioned one thing, trying to

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Speaker 4: I'm getting crushed for it. All right, Fine, fine, that's it.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I do think is kind of

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Speaker 3: interesting because is it fantasy to say that anyone other

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Speaker 4: NFC or is that in fact reality? Bucky?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of the question that dominates this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, you talked about the nine is in

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Speaker 5: not from an injury to the quarterback, they should have

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Speaker 5: been a team. They were sitting in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: we'll have an opportunity to see that they were running

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Speaker 6: That defense is pretty much the same.

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Speaker 5: Offensively, they're just better because now Christian mccavy has a

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Speaker 6: Out his tricks. I just like it.

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Speaker 5: I like when you have two talented teams that are

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Speaker 6: They're going to have to meet them.

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Speaker 5: When they meet, it could be to decided which one

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Speaker 2: Well, we're all on the same page, all right, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in to the NFC and let's start on

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Speaker 1: the NFC East, where last year the Philadelphi Eagles marched

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the Giants are going to have something

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Speaker 1: I think they have a chance. As they've been in

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Speaker 6: Yah. Absolutely, I'm with you on ed.

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Speaker 3: Did you happen to see just how how proud DJ

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Speaker 1: The Lions have all the heat, all the buzz, all

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Speaker 1: Expectations are that that comes this year. That happens this year,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm buying them as a team that is

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Speaker 3: Look, I think it's hard to argue there that the

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, could could do the Green.

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Speaker 3: And I think we saw that within the draft. You know,

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Speaker 4: Need to get this team over the hump.

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Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs I think Dan Campbell said this week in

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Speaker 1: DJ, Yeah, to me, I'm looking at Chicago, guys, this

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Speaker 2: Carolina's first pick. Think of the trade last year.

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Speaker 1: see this huge leap, this huge jump, and Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: To take off. I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I think they've got some better personnel, offensive lines better.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore gives them a legit number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be better.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to be an upper

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Speaker 6: Who do you really have.

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Speaker 1: To game plan around. I mean, they've they've got I

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Speaker 1: I don't think when you're preparing the advanced scouting report

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Speaker 1: going to get to the NFC South in the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: plenty of intrigue in the South with the number one

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it rolling here as we get to the

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Speaker 1: It's a division that's been shook up a little bit here, Rhett.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at it, to me, I think

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Speaker 2: You agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I do agree with it.

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Speaker 3: And I think it ultimately comes down in this division

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Speaker 3: Pretty good offensive line when healthy, so I like what

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Speaker 3: they do all offensively. But to me, this comes down

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Speaker 4: At each level.

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Speaker 3: I think the Saints are the class of this division, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: I think the Falcons are going to be the most

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Speaker 5: At least talked about team Baker Mayfield takes over for

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Speaker 5: Tod Bowles is going to control that defense, and that

440
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Speaker 5: defense still has the firefower to be able to really

441
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Speaker 5: make life miserable on quarterbacks, Devin White being able to

442
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Speaker 5: kind of control it in the middle, the secondary, with

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Speaker 5: these veterans, young veterans that are ball hawks, they have

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Speaker 5: some pieces to make it tough. A lot of it

445
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Speaker 5: comes back on Baker Mayfield taking care of the football

446
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Speaker 5: and the Buccaneers being able to run the football. So

447
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Speaker 5: he's not in past happy situations exclusively, because then his

448
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Speaker 5: life would be very real tough for Baker Mayfield to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm reading into this, I think all of

450
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Speaker 1: us you know, whether or not you fall on the

451
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Speaker 1: Falcon side of things or the Saints side of things.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like those are the two teams that's

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Speaker 1: the collision course that's going to end up deciding this division.

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Speaker 1: I think I probably lean a little bit more towards

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Speaker 1: the Saints at this point time as we're getting ready

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Speaker 1: to kick it off, But that feels like the matchup

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Speaker 1: we'll be keeping an eye on.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge Bucky here because I know Buck. He

460
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Speaker 1: worked with John Schneider, He's worked with the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: So this is where you know a lot of times

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Speaker 1: in media, you see it all the time. You see

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Speaker 1: people that can't have an objective opinion. They have their

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Speaker 1: they have their biases, they get locked in. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put Buck on the on the spot right here.

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Speaker 1: Do you honestly think that anybody, including the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: have a shot of dethroning the forty nine ers this year?

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Speaker 5: I think the nine is a tough did a class

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Speaker 5: of division. But the Seahawks have closed the gap. They're

470
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Speaker 5: right there genus playing like last year. I knew you

471
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Speaker 5: could get right there. I knew you could right there.

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Speaker 5: They they're right there. They're right there, and they're they're

473
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Speaker 5: there for many reason Jays and Jackson's been jig Wood

474
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Speaker 5: gives them three wide receivers to go with.

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Speaker 6: I believe a very talented running game.

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Speaker 5: And so when you think about the ying and yang

477
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Speaker 5: of the running game and the play action passing attack

478
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Speaker 5: and the way they can attack, I like that. Defensively,

479
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Speaker 5: they completely upgraded Draymond Jones, Jan Reed coming back, Bobby

480
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Speaker 5: Wagner coming back, moving the furniture around in the back end,

481
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Speaker 5: where you have Julian Love coming over, draft Devin with uspoone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, why wouldn't I.

483
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Speaker 5: Believe in the second coming of the legs of the boom.

484
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Speaker 5: The Seattle Yorks had done a lot to put themselves

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Speaker 5: in a position to overtake the Niners, And because it's

486
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Speaker 5: such a bitter robbery.

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Speaker 6: I can't I can't count them out. I think they're

488
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Speaker 6: right there. They're right there with the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I guess to me, for the Seahawks to really kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, come to fruition as a team that could

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Speaker 3: challenge the forty nine ers within this division, or at

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Speaker 3: least make it interesting, it comes down to whether those

494
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Speaker 3: running backs stay healthy. You know, Kenneth Walker and sharbon Ay.

495
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Speaker 3: You know, they drafted this year and they're going to

496
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Speaker 3: be a one two punch with an offensive line that

497
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Speaker 3: proved to be pretty physical a year ago with some

498
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Speaker 3: young players as bookend tackles. Like, those guys got to

499
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Speaker 3: stay rolling, right, we can't, I don't you know. I

500
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Speaker 3: know that they've got the receivers out there to work

501
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Speaker 3: in a pass game, but I don't know that you

502
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Speaker 3: want to put that much emphasis on the throw game

503
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Speaker 3: with you know, with without having a steady dose to

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Speaker 3: that run game.

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Speaker 4: So see if those guys can stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, I like, I like what we're seeing in the

507
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Speaker 3: secondary there with with Rieke Wollan and with Devin Witherspoon

508
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Speaker 3: on the corners. I think that's going to be really

509
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Speaker 3: fun to watch. Obviously it was a year ago. What

510
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Speaker 3: do they get out Jamal Adams. He's been like the

511
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Speaker 3: least talked about veteran player, you know, at one point

512
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Speaker 3: in his career was one of the best in the game,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, So, like, what are we going

514
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Speaker 3: to get out of him? I think it's a relatively

515
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Speaker 3: unknown could be a nice bonus for the Seahawks defense

516
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Speaker 3: and then guys, I mean I just you know, the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals and the Rams. You know, I obviously have a

518
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Speaker 3: lot more trust and confidence in what the Rams are

519
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Speaker 3: going to be able to do this year. But to me,

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Speaker 3: a large piece of that is whether Cooper cup can

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Speaker 3: you know, put these hamstring issues behind him, And sounds

522
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Speaker 3: like that's still up in the air right now.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise it's going to be a tough, a tough slog

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Speaker 4: for those two teams to kind of be competitive in

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Speaker 4: this division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, to me, I think it's the Niners, and

527
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Speaker 1: I think there's still a pretty good gap. Seattle is

528
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Speaker 1: a good football team. I just feel like the Niners defensively,

529
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Speaker 1: when they have everybody on the field, you know, happy

530
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Speaker 1: under contract, that this is a front that can just

531
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Speaker 1: take over and dominate games. They've got talent, they've got depth.

532
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Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave getting dropped into the middle of that defense

533
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Speaker 1: is a big deal. They've got playmakers at all three levels,

534
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Speaker 1: and they're just a physical, physical bunch.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're asking me.

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Speaker 1: My concern, I'm actually you know, not even the quarterback

537
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Speaker 1: is a concern for me. I know, they went through

538
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Speaker 1: everything with Trey Lance, they've moved on from him. Sam

539
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Speaker 1: Donald comes in to be the backup. I think if

540
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Speaker 1: Sam has to play, whether brock Herdy something happened to

541
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Speaker 1: him health wise, or maybe he doesn't maintain the level

542
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Speaker 1: he had last year, I think Sam's more than capable

543
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Speaker 1: of operating this offense and them not skipping a beat,

544
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Speaker 1: but offensive line wise, to me, the right side of

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Speaker 1: that line gives me a little bit of pause, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a concern there. That would be the

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Speaker 1: one area of this Niners team that I'm not just

548
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Speaker 1: completely sold on. But I do think that they are

549
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Speaker 1: the class of the division. I think it's a two

550
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Speaker 1: It's a two horse race in the conference. It's the Niners,

551
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Speaker 1: it's the Eagles. Talked about that at the very top.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's inevitable. And they don't like each

553
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Speaker 1: other either, by the way. I think it's the best

554
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Speaker 1: rivalry we have in the Laitue right now, because they

555
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Speaker 1: literally it's not.

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Speaker 2: Like, ah, they're good, we're good. It'll be they hate

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Speaker 2: each other. So that's gonna be a fun one.

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Speaker 4: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I'll kick it back to you on these other teams,

560
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Speaker 1: because I don't even know if they sell these anymore.

561
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Speaker 1: But hypothetically, if they still sold programs, the Rams would

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Speaker 1: break the record for programs sold this year. Because there's

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Speaker 1: no way any of these fans have any idea who

564
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Speaker 1: the heck these guys are that they're trotting out there

565
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 6: No no idea.

567
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Speaker 5: A team that went from really collecting stars wanting to

568
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Speaker 5: win with star power when they had a group that

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Speaker 5: I mean, they had every all star you could think about, Obj,

570
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Speaker 5: Vond Miller, Jalen Ramsey, you think about Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford,

571
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Speaker 5: all those pieces.

572
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Speaker 6: Those guys aren't go there anymore.

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Speaker 5: And so now it's Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford and a

574
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Speaker 5: bunch of unknowns. And how well would those guys play

575
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Speaker 5: being thrust into prominent roles. We've talked about it, like

576
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Speaker 5: they talked about not really regarding those picks and HI

577
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Speaker 5: and high regard and so whatever they want to do.

578
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Speaker 5: All of these young players, these developmental guys, you put

579
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Speaker 5: them all on the field. I don't know if they

580
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Speaker 5: all can play well. Matthew Stafford is well, he doesn't explain,

581
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Speaker 5: but his wife complained about him not really being connected

582
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Speaker 5: with his teammates. To me, it looks like a disaster

583
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Speaker 5: waiting to happen. Maybe it's different. Maybe that is just

584
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Speaker 5: preseason fodder we get excited about that. Maybe they're different, Natty,

585
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Speaker 5: We're about to play the real games. But it hasn't

586
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Speaker 5: looked good to this point. I can't imagine it looking

587
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Speaker 5: much better once we get to the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know one thing when it comes here is

589
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Speaker 1: on the Cardinals. You know, we love teams, love slogans.

590
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Speaker 1: We've seen it with Deon Sanders. With Colorado, it was

591
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Speaker 1: the week coming that was their slogan. You know, why

592
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Speaker 1: not us is a slogan that we've heard. I mean,

593
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Speaker 1: there's a million of these things.

594
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Speaker 4: You got fire in my gut, DJs.

595
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Speaker 1: Fire in your gut is not the one. The slogan

596
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Speaker 1: this year for the Arizona Cardinals. It's four wards. It's

597
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Speaker 1: forwards for their slogan with the first pick.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to go well for the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: this year, unfortunately. If you're a Cardinal fan, I apologize,

601
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Speaker 1: But this is going to be a fun conference overall.

602
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Speaker 1: Big picture, We've talked about it. Eagles Niners. That feels

603
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Speaker 1: like that's gonna happen. The Cowboys, I think are going

604
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Speaker 1: to be a fun team. We're gonna see, you know,

605
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. The Carolina Panthers. Talk about the Atlanta Falcons

606
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Speaker 1: and all their versatile pieces. So why the AFC has

607
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Speaker 1: the quarterback star power?

608
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Speaker 2: We'll give them that.

609
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Speaker 1: There is still a lot of intrigue left in the

610
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Speaker 1: NFC and we cannot wait to get this thing kicked off.

611
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Speaker 2: Well, there it is. I hope you guys have enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: We will be with you each and every week, continuing

613
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Speaker 1: to give you good football knowledge.

614
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Speaker 2: Right here on.

615
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Speaker 6: Move the sticks.

616
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Speaker 3: Sunity before Lott, Purity

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Speaker 6: Before