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Now time passes 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: so quickly, and my wife and I drive for a living. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Uh getting through to you. I've been trying to get 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: through for about a year. But anyway, uh, perseverance, you 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: made it to to just hit to talk to you. 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: But um, you were doing a show about the Phoenix 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: lights with a guest, a lady Dr Lynn Keti. Yes, yes, 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: and it was awesome show when I was on hold 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: trying to get through, but it didn't work out and 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the show ended. But the reason is up here in Vancouver, 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: British Columbia, my wife and I we've seen something extremely 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: similar and uh, this long kind of line of lights 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: came over the mountains, coming heading south from over the 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: mountains if you wish down towards the Seattle. But they 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: were just coming over the mountains and we were stunned 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: at first because there's kind of a little ski hill 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: there that has lights on on the mountains there. If 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you've been to Vancouver before, yes, a couple of times. 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: And uh so we were like, is that the steeling 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: is like no, this is obviously not, and I swear 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: after these things kind of came out right behind them. 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Following was a triangular the traditional little the lights in 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: the corners and that's that's all you could see. And 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: we were stunned first, and then trying we remember, jeez, 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: we got our cell phone here that we can actually 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: take pictures, because you're never ready when you see things, 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: that's right, And so we wildly and my wife grabbed 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: it and snapping at the sky, and we got some 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: really cool stuff, George. And that's what I was kind 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: of waiting to tell you, because I just didn't want 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: even as I am a coast inside, I just didn't 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: want to fire stuff off. I'd love to see it. 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: How big? I mean, was this? Were these objects? Do 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: you think they were one big one or many little ones? 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: There was many little ones and they were moving in 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: a uniform fashion at first, and then sort of turned 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: out to see and we started moving in different directions. 55 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Um after we've seen the triangular craft in there behind. 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: We didn't capture photo of that one, but the ones 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: that we did capture very very interesting, and one of 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: them specifically, it looks when I look at it, uh, 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, transferring it from the phone to the computer 60 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: to me, it's pretty incredible. And you know, people who 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: have the ability to really look at these photographs deeper 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: than just on a computer, you you know, without magnifying 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: it because it sorts. Was there any sound associated with them? No, 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: there wasn't no sound, And how far how far people 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: phoned in? But I was surprised there wasn't more of 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: a frenzy. Hundreds of thousands of people should have seen this. 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Oh you would think how far away were they from 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: where you were? Just guess I was down in uh 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Richmond looking north towards the mountains, and so for me 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: to the mountains, jeez, that's probably got to be ten mean, 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little more than they were up 72 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: in the sky, so that that they be about five 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: six seven thousand feet maybe something like that, because the 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: mountains are about four or five there at the coast. 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: Were they moving fast? No, just in a slow, uniform 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: fashion at first. And then it's like, you know, just 77 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that feeling you get once we were taking photographs, It's 78 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: like they knew and people see and you know they 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: take They just headed out towards sea and then gone, okay, 80 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: you know how to get them to me? Um, I 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 1: believe through through the email and send them to you guys, 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: and I'd love for you to look at it. Okay, 83 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: there's one more thing I did want to to um. 84 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Another I've had several inns, but too many to go into. 85 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: But this this one incident. Um basically what it boils 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: down into is my wife and I near between baths 87 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: and Calgary, Alberta. We've got missing time about three four 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: hours when we've seen like a cluster like a bee 89 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: hive flying in the sky and and we were traveling 90 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and that it should have taken us about fourteen hours. 91 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: We stopped to get out. Now that the crazy thing 92 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: is we kind of came to after we've been driving further, 93 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: but we don't remember getting back in and don't remember 94 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: driving that distance, which is kind of scary both of us. 95 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Both of you don't. Yes, yes, it was listening to 96 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: one of your shows and the guest was talking about 97 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: the scenario and then we turned and looked at east 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: went oh my, because we were we had people waiting 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: for us, and then we were late and we knew 100 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: we were. It is like, why did it take so long? 101 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: But the strange things we don't have any like negative 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: memories or memories of what potentially could have happened. But 103 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: I only can tell you is it was below zero 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter where you are, you can't stand 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: outside for three hours with not prepared. No, you two 106 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: need a hypnotherapy session. Well, and that's what I was 107 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: going to ask you. Who I mean I've tried to 108 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: speak with. Her name is Escape and she's always on 109 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: the show. Um, um, what's her name? Linda? You you 110 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: need a lot of people about hypno therapy. And then 111 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: there's been different guests you've had. You need Dr Bruce Goldberg. Yeah, 112 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: and then we listened him. My wife loves it if 113 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: you heard that. But um, the thing is, do you 114 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: know this is the question I want to ask you about. 115 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: That is all the guests and the people you have 116 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: talked to, has there ever been have they had negative 117 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: implication or things if they bring something forward which isn't 118 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: in your memory consciousness now that maybe sub Barry, has 119 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: there been any damage to your psyche in the present. Well, 120 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: let let's go back to one of the first real 121 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: big cases back in the early sixties of Barney and 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 1: Betty Hill. They were from New Hampshire and they both 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: separately under hypnosis said the same thing which the psychiatrists 124 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: whom I interviewed when I was a twenty one year 125 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: old reporter, was really amazed with. But they talked about 126 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: an abduction, and it was not very pleasant for either 127 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: one of them. The experiments and things like that, and 128 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: apparently fifty years ago, whoever was doing this, they were 129 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: really checking biological things on human beings. But the psychiatrists 130 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: at the time Dr Benjamin Simon from Boston, when I 131 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: asked him specifically if Barney and Betty Hill were telling 132 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the truth, he said, I don't know what happened to them, 133 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: but whatever they think happened to them, they're telling the truth. 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: They're not lying. And that was an amazing statement. Uh, 135 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: in most cases, Brian, it is not very pleasant. Now 136 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: we don't get a lot of cases of abductions anymore. 137 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: They seem to be waning a little bit. But of 138 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: those that came into us, they're just not pleasant. 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