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Speaker 1: The volume. Hi, everybody, Welcome in to the Wednesday Morning

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Speaker 1: Heard Colin Coward podcast. So a bunch of different thoughts

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Speaker 1: for about twelve minutes here. You know, when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: and you'd have Thanksgiving or Christmas, but usually Thanksgiving you

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Speaker 1: My guess is not. Really. There's always one weird uncle

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Speaker 1: the family. And it's not like, you know, he believes

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Speaker 1: just didn't know what it was. It was a government

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Speaker 1: always like anti government and and I always had this

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Speaker 1: sort of theory on conspiracy theorists that they're people that

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Speaker 1: somehow feel slighted by life. They're not as successful as

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Speaker 1: they believe they should be, so they've got to blame somebody.

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Speaker 1: It's the government, it's a political figure, it's a boss.

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Speaker 1: The truth is when you used to bring them over

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Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving or Christmas and they would leave, you were

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Speaker 1: all like, yeah, we like uncle Phil, but he's batshit crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I was watching the Trump indictment in Georgia and

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Speaker 1: I woke up at like three in the morning and

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Speaker 1: and I went online, what a mistake. I'm convinced now

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Speaker 1: half the country is conspiracy theorists. It's the Alex Jonesing

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Speaker 1: of society. One of the reasons I love sports is

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Speaker 1: that there's finish lines, and they're standings, and they're winners

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Speaker 1: and they're losers. But as I looked at this indictment,

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, is the reality of paula Tics

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Speaker 1: going forward that unless you win an election, conservative or Democrat,

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Speaker 1: you're going to say it's fixed? Like, is that the

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Speaker 1: door that's been opened? I mean, I always loved sports.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, I was offered a political show years and

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Speaker 1: years and years ago from a general manager of an

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Speaker 1: AM radio station that said, you know, I think you're

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Speaker 1: kind of a moderate, lean left guy. There's too many

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Speaker 1: conservatives on the air. And I said, well, if the

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Speaker 1: audience listens to conservatives, that's what the audience wants. And

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Speaker 1: I said to him, I'm not angry enough to be

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Speaker 1: in politics. I like the finality of sports. Winners, losers

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Speaker 1: go home, game over. But folks with that movie JFK

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Speaker 1: came out years ago by Oliver Stone. It was really entertaining,

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Speaker 1: it would be seen as a documentary. People would just

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Speaker 1: buy all of it. And I don't know what happen

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Speaker 1: is that the influence of social media. But politics has

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Speaker 1: gotten so crazy I have to shut it off. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't care who's running for president, but if you

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Speaker 1: side it's over. That will be my definitive one topic

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Speaker 1: I can never vote for you. What the hell would

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Speaker 1: that do to our democracy? Give me sports, give me standings,

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Speaker 1: get me conclusive winners and losers. It's a more sane life.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that baseball pushed back on

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Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, is individuality. There's always been this

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Speaker 1: ridiculous there's a way to play the game. No, there's not,

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Speaker 1: unwritten rules. Write them down. I think baseball is going

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Speaker 1: to have its lowest postseason ratings ever, and the primary

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Speaker 1: And the average sports fan will not be able to

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Speaker 1: And say what you want about the NBA, but all

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Speaker 1: has pushed wrapped their arms around and embraced individuality. I

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Speaker 1: always thought one of the keys for college football during

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Speaker 1: You know, numbers on the helmets, generic uniforms. It's all

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Speaker 1: American League ratings are going to be atrocious. Yankees out

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Speaker 1: before twice that I've tried to invest in the MLS

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Speaker 1: thirty six year old loun A Messi literally has walked

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Speaker 1: about a team of unlikely underdogs, a struggling working class gamer,

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Speaker 1: Together they risk it all to take on the most

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Speaker 1: It's some of the most famous racing competitions in the world,

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Speaker 1: gts and practical effects. It's really cool. It's really a

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Speaker 1: A lot of action, really intense. It's an inspiring, uplifting

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Speaker 1: Grand Turismo, based on a true story is exclusively in

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Speaker 1: movie theaters this August twenty fifth, with the special sneak

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Speaker 1: So there's a new movie coming out that I just watched.

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Speaker 1: My producers and I watched it. They sent us a

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Speaker 1: link Grand Turismo. It is a hard story to believe

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Speaker 1: is true, but it is actually true. We're a middle

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Speaker 1: class gamer, an optimistic motorsport executive, and a failed race

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Speaker 1: It's called Grand Turismo. It is a true story. And

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Speaker 1: When You're a Gamer, and there was parts in the

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Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, is this Hollywood? Or could

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Speaker 3: And even now it's it's another level because not only well,

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Speaker 2: It's like a social event.

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Speaker 1: So I had never heard of this story, and as

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Speaker 1: I thought you're The actor that played you was very realistic.

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Speaker 2: What is it like?

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Speaker 3: Just because they're going to know the colors of my helmet,

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Speaker 3: I don't want. I don't need my name on it.

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Speaker 3: I don't need anything else. There's those are my colors,

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Speaker 3: So to see somebody else the Archie way the helmet is,

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Speaker 2: very welcoming.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the movie focuses on the relationship with one

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Speaker 3: in particular that was quite negative, and it's the main

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Speaker 3: part rival of the story. But this person is based

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Speaker 3: off a real person that I was teammates with in

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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, and it was, like you say, there was

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Speaker 3: a lack of respect was that I was given. I

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Speaker 3: was very much aware back then as well that I'm

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Speaker 3: still cutting my teeth, I'm still hurting my reputation. I

441
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: wasn't expecting people to be very friendly and open and

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Speaker 3: race as if you know you're on their level because

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Speaker 3: of I haven't done anything. I've been racing that but

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Speaker 3: maybe two years and now. I was aware that if

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Speaker 3: I was racing against me coming up the conventional route,

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Speaker 3: I would hate me, so I cannot had some sympathy.

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Speaker 3: I had some sympathy because my ego is quite big,

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Speaker 3: especially in my world of motorsport, So to be racing

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Speaker 3: against somebody who's barrier to entry to the sport is

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Speaker 3: five hundred pounds, and then maybe my you know what,

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Speaker 3: my sponsor or family or you know, private minis. They've

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Speaker 3: spent hundreds of thousands, maybe millions to get me to

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Speaker 3: this level, and I've competing against me. So I would

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Speaker 3: be like, I'm going to make sure I beat this

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Speaker 3: guy because I'm going to look silly. I would hate

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Speaker 3: to lose against me. Back then it would be so

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Speaker 3: I have some sympathy, really, But there was some some people,

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Speaker 3: some drivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of when you're.

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Speaker 3: Strapped to a car, which can do damage to people,

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Speaker 3: do damage to humans, and whereas it's a it's a

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00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: missile at some point, and then when that's used in

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Speaker 3: a way that life can be threatened, then it's then

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Speaker 3: I will talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So when I was talking to producers and.

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Speaker 3: Scriptwriters about rivals, there was a person in mind about

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Speaker 3: that and the experience that I had with this person

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Speaker 3: because there was a lack of respect on circuit. Face

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Speaker 3: to face, you know, it is what it is, but

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Speaker 3: on circuit there was very clear that there was nothing there.

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Speaker 3: One more kind of example, which is still funny to

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Speaker 3: this day because I've mentioned it so many times. I

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00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: woonder if the guy would ever contact me. But my

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00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: first ever race after the Academy was in a place

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Speaker 3: called Pembury, my local Welsh circuit, and I was having

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Speaker 3: a conversation with somebody and this guy interjected and he

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Speaker 3: introduced himself as the Welsh sports Car and saloon Car

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Speaker 3: Champion of twenty ten. I thought it was very strange

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Speaker 3: for somebody to introduce themselves as a champion, but anyway,

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Speaker 3: I kind of let him talk. And this was the

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Speaker 3: first time our experienced a verbal to my face where

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Speaker 3: he thought he was here, I was here.

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Speaker 2: And he said to me, if you see me in

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Speaker 2: your mirrors, don't fight me, just let me go. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've been racing.

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Speaker 3: I had done my first race out the academy at

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Speaker 3: that point, and I was like, oh, I've got a

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Speaker 3: man next to me who's given me the yeah, playing

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Speaker 3: the big man.

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Speaker 2: And it just lit a fire.

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Speaker 3: I already I was already kind of psyched up, but

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00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: this guy kind of threw logs and gasoline on my soul. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's needless to say he stayed in my mirrors. But

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Speaker 3: that was the first kind of experience of.

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Speaker 2: You know, egos.

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Speaker 1: Hierarchy, yeherarchy, yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the first time you faced this person

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Speaker 1: and you can mention him, did you beat him.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah that weekend. I mean this was grassroots level.

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00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: This wasn't high competition at all. This was getting my

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00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: race license. However, the who Kappa is based off. This

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00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: was during Formula three, so twenty thirteen. This was so

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00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: I've been racing a couple of years. Still very new,

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, the level quite high from the three.

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Speaker 1: That had to feel great, That had to feel great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I had an experience in broadcasting like that. I still

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Speaker 1: remember everybody's name. I still remember it well. Or an

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Speaker 1: older broadcaster, and my first broadcast ever said kind of

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I never let it go. It was

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Speaker 1: jet fuel and you know, I mean, the truth is,

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Speaker 1: when you're young, I think people think they can intimidate

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Speaker 1: younger people, and what they're doing is get doing a

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Speaker 1: favor for you. Because young people, I mean, when you're young,

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Speaker 1: you've got a mind like a trap, and you're influence.

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Speaker 1: I was influenced much more when I was young than

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Speaker 1: when I'm older. And so the truth is that had

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Speaker 1: such a positive impact on you, probably because it just

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00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: laser focus. Not that you weren't a focused kid, but

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Speaker 1: the fact that you remember that story, you probably remember

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Speaker 1: the colors, the people, the moment, the time of day.

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Speaker 1: It's probably very clear to you. I would guess it's

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00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: clear because it was.

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Speaker 2: The first time somebody saying it to my face.

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Speaker 3: I mean I had a chip off my shoulder anyway

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: for another reason after the Academy, but I won't go

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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: so much into that.

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00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: So I was already I had this this fire to prove.

530
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: Others but also to myself, and then this guy just

531
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: kind of added some more fuel to what was currently

532
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: going on and just kind of I just remember it,

533
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: and then later on with other people. For the most

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Speaker 3: for the general, since I've been racing twelve years, the

535
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: interaction now, it's fine. I have I've earned my stripes,

536
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: I've got receipts, and you know with racing drivers where

537
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: I've earned the respect, that's all sort of good bris Back.

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Speaker 2: Then where the movie portrays it was those early years. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was more more difficult. Show that it was interesting,

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Speaker 2: interesting times.

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Speaker 1: Grand Turismo is the movie. Congratulations on the story, the movie,

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Speaker 1: your success. It's a really fun watch and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Pleasure.

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Speaker 1: The volume