Speaker 1: Look out.
Speaker 2: It's only films to be buried with the Reincarnation. Hello,
Speaker 2: my name is Buddy Peace. I am a musician and
Speaker 2: an editor and the producer of this podcast. Brett has
Speaker 2: lost his voice, so he has asked me to step
Speaker 2: in for him for this intro. Luckily, he recorded this
Speaker 2: episode a couple of weeks ago, so I've only got
Speaker 2: to cover the admin. Also, he wrote this for me
Speaker 2: to read out, so it's all going to be fine.
Speaker 2: As Benjamin Spock once said, trust yourself. You know more
Speaker 2: than you think you do. You can do this Buddy piece.
Speaker 2: Every week, Brett Goldstein invites a special guest over and
Speaker 2: then he tells them they've died and then gets them
Speaker 2: to discuss their life through the films that meant the
Speaker 2: most of them. Previous guests include Mark Frost, Barry Jenkins,
Speaker 2: Sharon Stone, and even Mary mccampbell's. But this week is different.
Speaker 2: He's come back. Pet Bambles has been resurrected, and he
Speaker 2: has been through his judgment day and now for his
Speaker 2: fulld appearance, he will experience for the first time the Reincarnation.
Speaker 2: Check out the Patreon at patreon dot com slash Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 2: where you'll get an extra twenty minutes with Ed he
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Speaker 2: Slash Brett Goldstein Pet Brambles is a podcaster, actor, writer
Speaker 2: and comedian, and Brett was delighted to have him back
Speaker 2: for the full time here. They recorded this a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago over zoom and I've heard it. It's brilliant.
Speaker 2: That's it from now. I very much hope you enjoy
Speaker 2: episode three hundred and six of Films to be Buried
Speaker 2: with the Reincarnation.
Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried with the Reincarnation.
Speaker 3: It is I Brett Goldstein and I am joined today
Speaker 3: coming back from the dead by an actor, a writer,
Speaker 3: a Royal Albert Haler regular at his locals gig, a podcaster,
Speaker 3: a TV host, a British baker, a food writer, a
Speaker 3: food journalist, a food eater. He likes food. He's a
Speaker 3: multi million best selling author and an amazing comedian. He
Speaker 3: would prefer not to have a hot dog on the temb.
Speaker 3: He wants a cucumber. He's here he's there. He lives
Speaker 3: with the genie and he's a very good boy. Here
Speaker 3: he is live in person. Please welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: It's the brilliant. It's mister Red Camble.
Speaker 1: Hooray.
Speaker 4: Few lies in there, more lies than normal, I'd say
Speaker 4: in the build up, no lies, no lies. Multi multi
Speaker 4: millions selling author, I think probably I.
Speaker 3: Read an interview with you that said your book coming
Speaker 3: out now in paperback best seller. It might not have
Speaker 3: said millions, but it said best and I assume any
Speaker 3: book that is best selling is selling millions.
Speaker 4: It's my best selling book I've ever released, and that's
Speaker 4: probably what they meant.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I released my book Glutton, The Multi Course Life of
Speaker 4: a very Greedy Boy, in the same day as Britney
Speaker 4: Spears released her autobiography, and I'd say she probably sneaks
Speaker 4: a few more copies than me in there.
Speaker 3: Well, let me put it like this, I haven't read
Speaker 3: Britney Spears when I have read yours. There we go.
Speaker 3: You do the math that's all you need to say.
Speaker 3: You do the maths. Also, your book is very, very
Speaker 3: funny and very good and people should buy the best
Speaker 3: multi million selling I mean, you don't need it he's
Speaker 3: already sold millions, but millions, Yeah, it could sell a
Speaker 3: couple more. It took me a while reading your book,
Speaker 3: as like, oh, he sort of joked about he said this,
Speaker 3: you know when people say people tell you who they
Speaker 3: are all the time. I don't know why. It took
Speaker 3: me until I read your book to go, oh, he
Speaker 3: really does love food.
Speaker 4: My career didn't have any sort of didn't give you
Speaker 4: any inkling that I might know.
Speaker 3: It was like, I think he's you know, it's like
Speaker 3: a sort of minor thing to him. But after your book,
Speaker 3: I was like, no, do you know what? He really
Speaker 3: does love food? Did it give you that? Here's what
Speaker 3: this is the true test of the book. Yeah, did
Speaker 3: it give you any insight into why people love food?
Speaker 3: As a man who sees food as purely functional and
Speaker 3: actually quite annoying, I think you're finding food quite annoying. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think what I thought was if I wrote a
Speaker 3: book about films, would you go, oh, I guess he
Speaker 3: really did care about films.
Speaker 4: No, because I know you care about films. You've been
Speaker 4: doing this podcast for like a decade. I know you
Speaker 4: love films. I've been doing a food podcast for ages.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I listened to it every single week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't believe you didn't twig that I loved food.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was sort of an excuse to
Speaker 3: hang out with James.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's that's actually one of the negatives about
Speaker 4: the whole project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, listen. It's very impressive book, very and genuinely.
Speaker 3: I was sort of genuinely impressed with how funny and
Speaker 3: given that the entire book is you talking about food,
Speaker 3: that it doesn't feel samey. It's like a new way
Speaker 3: of talking about food every chapter.
Speaker 4: That's because there's loads of different food, Brett, and we
Speaker 4: don't all eat the same thing every day. Three hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty pages. I think you could write a brilliant
Speaker 4: book about films. I definitely read your book about films. Okay,
Speaker 4: thank you, No, huge shout out to one of my
Speaker 4: favorite memoirs, Pattern Oswell's Silver Screen Fiend, which is an
Speaker 4: absolutely brilliant book. And I think the first time I
Speaker 4: read a comedian do a memoir which is a sneak
Speaker 4: a sneaky memoir where they're talking supposedly talking about something else,
Speaker 4: but they're actually talking about their life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, your your book's kind of the opposite, isn't it.
Speaker 3: And that's what I loved about your All the press
Speaker 3: you had to do is people kept trying to get
Speaker 3: deep with you, Yes, as if they thought your memoir
Speaker 3: was secretly about your life and really it was just food. Yeah.
Speaker 4: People try to get very deep with me about my
Speaker 4: weight loss and things like that, whereas I'm very clear
Speaker 4: in the book I was extremely happy when I was fat,
Speaker 4: and people just don't. People didn't trust me even though
Speaker 4: I wrote about it for ages. In fact, I did
Speaker 4: do one of those deep interviews, didn't I. And then
Speaker 4: I had to come and meet you to see Indiana.
Speaker 3: Jones, So I really I really rushed through that interview
Speaker 3: to come to go and meet my friend Brett does
Speaker 3: the Indiana Jones at the IMAX. I read that interview
Speaker 3: and I could tell the journalist was very annoyed. She
Speaker 3: was like, there's something about him. He seems desperate to
Speaker 3: get out, keeps slicking at his watch. Every so often.
Speaker 4: He stares into the middle distance and says, I wonder
Speaker 4: if the Big Boulder will be in it.
Speaker 3: I'm very impressed with your book, and I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: Pass you and you're on tour now after the last tour,
Speaker 3: he's on tour. Yeah, there was a bit of a gap.
Speaker 4: I mean I taught Australia and New Zealand with the
Speaker 4: last tour last year, and now I'm on tour again.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I suppose that's quite quickly after the previous show.
Speaker 3: How long did it take you to write this new one?
Speaker 3: And did you write it while you were doing the
Speaker 3: other one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was doing the other one in Australia New Zealand,
Speaker 4: and I definitely had the main basis of the show,
Speaker 4: so it's probably like a year, year and a half
Speaker 4: a tinker with it, But I never say it's finished
Speaker 4: because I'll try and keep it fresh for myself on
Speaker 4: tour every night, and I'll normally come up with a
Speaker 4: new line or a new way of delivering a line
Speaker 4: or something. So I don't think it's ever truly a
Speaker 4: fully formed piece, but then my show's aren't anyway. They're
Speaker 4: just sort of a lot of weave together anecdotes and thoughts,
Speaker 4: and they're very silly, Brett.
Speaker 3: I did tell you a friend of mine went to
Speaker 3: see you who doesn't know you and mess with me
Speaker 3: and said, I saw your friend Ed, who was amazing.
Speaker 3: I think it was in Devon or somewhere and I said,
Speaker 3: oh great, and they said, yes, he picked on my
Speaker 3: husband and said he would suck his dick right off. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's you know, a bit in the show. I no
Speaker 3: longer pick on anyone and say that. But I'm glad
Speaker 3: that I said that to your friend. What a treat
Speaker 3: for What a treat for your friend?
Speaker 4: And that really gives you an insight into what sort
Speaker 4: of comedy I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never asked you this head, and I'm sorry
Speaker 3: to be to ask you a serious process question about
Speaker 3: your process. Okay, now when this tour you finished last tour,
Speaker 3: did you have like we've got a year, like I said,
Speaker 3: do you put a deadline in I'm doing a tour
Speaker 3: ony years, so I have to have a China year.
Speaker 3: Do you start with an idea how does it go?
Speaker 3: Or do you just go fuck, I have to do
Speaker 3: something new and then you come up with it like
Speaker 3: as it work with you. Yeah, that's sort of sort
Speaker 3: of the last one.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's ever been a process tour to
Speaker 4: tour that has been the same. There's not like a
Speaker 4: right here we go, let's hang everything on the framework
Speaker 4: that I did the last tour with. It's mainly just
Speaker 4: thinking about things that have happened to me in the
Speaker 4: last year and a half, seeing if there's any stories
Speaker 4: that can be absolutely fleshed out beyond belief. And then
Speaker 4: I just try and write loads of jokes and do
Speaker 4: loads of gigs as well. And you know, I'm taking
Speaker 4: new material on stage at big gigs where I absolutely
Speaker 4: shouldn't be. I won't ever do the stuff from the
Speaker 4: previous tour again after the tours finished. It's got to
Speaker 4: be all it's got to be all new. Yeah, it's good,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got to run it out, you know, put it
Speaker 4: through its paces. If I start relying on old material,
Speaker 4: then you know, what's what's the point of that. I've
Speaker 4: just got to see if I can sell the hell
Speaker 4: out of my new thoughts.
Speaker 3: Very good, Very good. And how's all your all your
Speaker 3: TV stuff? Because of course I've been away. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen you, but you've been all over the British.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing a bit of TV stuff. I'm the
Speaker 4: host of the Traders extra show, Traders Uncloaked.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, big show that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Trace is a massive show in the UK and
Speaker 4: in the US, but the US is slightly different. They
Speaker 4: only use previous reality show contestants or reality stars, but
Speaker 4: it's members of the public. With the UK one and
Speaker 4: I do like the Extra Discussion show, which is pictures
Speaker 4: a visualized podcast. But that's a television show, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's busy show. I was invited to be on it
Speaker 3: wasn't I and I thought it was a podcast because
Speaker 3: the way it was. They kept saying, will you be
Speaker 3: on our Traders podcast? And I said, I don't watch Traders,
Speaker 3: so I think it would be pointless, and they kept saying, well,
Speaker 3: film it. One of the keys for guests is that
Speaker 3: they watch Traders or care about the Traders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but no, I love doing that. I'm a
Speaker 4: judge on Great British Menu as well, do a bit
Speaker 4: of that. You know, there's there's totally knocking about.
Speaker 3: So your Great British Menu. You're just eating and that's nice,
Speaker 3: isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sometimes I go, oh, that's not very nice, actually, do
Speaker 4: you No, not to their face.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: There is a nerve racking bit where the chefs come
Speaker 4: in at the end and you have to sort of
Speaker 4: especially on finals week, you have to run through the rankings.
Speaker 4: There's eight chefs in finals week and you have to
Speaker 4: be like and in eight places is Brett because he
Speaker 4: messed up his salmon or whatever, he.
Speaker 3: Messed up his fresh protein b Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that what you're rocking these days? Are you just
Speaker 4: are you pure protein products? Do you only eat supplements?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a series of gels like that.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if you were just
Speaker 4: on pure Well now, no, I'm nine.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good, that's solid. Actually, what's your what's your order? Full?
Speaker 3: Hole hot chicken hole full hot chicken, berry tips, Coustler
Speaker 3: massive peace, the chips.
Speaker 4: The chips are re curvable for me, I'll be honest.
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting any cubs and there whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I do feel yeah, and I don't always do that,
Speaker 3: but you know, hard to resist in it if you're
Speaker 3: feeling cheeky. Yeah. One last question wrestling? Yes? Is that
Speaker 3: a question? Is that a question? Brett? You're you're If
Speaker 3: we may, I don't know if this is private? Is
Speaker 3: it private? It will talk about it when you can't know.
Speaker 3: Your lady wife has become a wrestler.
Speaker 4: No, she's not become a wrestler. I think she would
Speaker 4: resist that that label. She trains, she does wrestling training,
Speaker 4: so she, you know, twice a week will go to
Speaker 4: a an industrial estate in London and be thrown around
Speaker 4: a ring by professional wrestlers. And I think it's she
Speaker 4: just it's something she enjoys. And I think finding exercise
Speaker 4: you enjoy is really important. But unfortunately, also just me,
Speaker 4: she's injured half the time.
Speaker 3: Does she pick you up and bodies slamming you in
Speaker 3: the living room? I think she could. Our living room
Speaker 3: is not big enough for that.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, she will sometimes get back and be so pumped
Speaker 4: up with adrenaline that she's like, come here, I want
Speaker 4: to show you what I've learned today.
Speaker 3: And then she put me.
Speaker 4: In a headlock and do all of this, and do
Speaker 4: a takedown and try and roll me up and all
Speaker 4: of this. I'm very happy for you that you've found
Speaker 4: a hobby, but the room isn't really big enough for this,
Speaker 4: and I've got a week lower back.
Speaker 3: I will always encourage you with love, but you are
Speaker 3: hurting me. Yeah, please please stop ed Oh hang on,
Speaker 3: let's see what the what the rules are? How many
Speaker 3: of these ones have you done? Bro? Just one it's
Speaker 3: a great you know, it's a huge honor. It's a
Speaker 3: huge honor to be a fourth time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean the thing that I think, the thing that
Speaker 4: really chips away at the honorable status of it is
Speaker 4: the host of the podcast saying, you know, it's a
Speaker 4: huge honor. Imagine getting an obe and the king saying
Speaker 4: to you, the king, guys, oh, it's a big deal.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to check before I give you this.
Speaker 4: You know this is a huge honore, right.
Speaker 3: Sir, ed it's a big deal. Right, you appreciate this
Speaker 3: before I do this? All Right, here we go.
Speaker 4: I can see you've been the king in like a
Speaker 4: like an in a naked gun film or something.
Speaker 3: I would like like to be slightly threatening. King. Oh bee,
Speaker 3: I'm the King. Watch it? Edward Gamble, you fourth time legend.
Speaker 3: What an honor you You have been brought back to
Speaker 3: earth to live a new life. But as who or what?
Speaker 3: It can be someone from the past, or you can
Speaker 3: design a new life off you go.
Speaker 4: So as who or what? It's an interesting question, isn't it.
Speaker 4: And I think I think it's going to be my
Speaker 4: own cat. Can I be my own cat? Or will
Speaker 4: that then kill my cat?
Speaker 3: Cat. You've got an lovely cat. Would it kill your cat? No?
Speaker 3: I guess you can come back as your cat. And
Speaker 3: given this sort of lads of time and space, you
Speaker 3: couldn't come back to the beginning of your so you'd
Speaker 3: actually go back in time. But then would I?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be there because I think a lot of
Speaker 4: the fact that my cat has a nice life is
Speaker 4: down to the fact that I'm an absolute pushover.
Speaker 3: So so no, will you'd be there until you died
Speaker 3: on this Oh yeah, okay podcast, So the first half
Speaker 3: of your cat's live certainly.
Speaker 4: Would fantastically, And then yeah, I'll definitely be my own
Speaker 4: cat because I think I think he's got the best
Speaker 4: life out of any living being on the planet.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's weird that you were listen? Do
Speaker 3: you know what? Fuck? Man? Isn't this what therapy is?
Speaker 3: Therapy is like looking after yourself. You've literally come back
Speaker 3: as a cat that will be looked after by you.
Speaker 4: Let's check the clock. Ten minutes in Brett's talking about therapy.
Speaker 4: You've been in LA for too long, man, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I think you've fucking mastered your that you're that you're
Speaker 3: you want to come back as a cat that will
Speaker 3: be looked up by you. Yeah, looks he has a
Speaker 3: fantastic life.
Speaker 4: I mean he's asleep right now, sleeps all day, wakes
Speaker 4: up at about seven, wakes me up.
Speaker 3: I go and feed him. He just trots around.
Speaker 4: Sometimes he just goes mad and runs around the house,
Speaker 4: does a big ship and then that that's sort of
Speaker 4: his day. That's all I want to do, Bro, I
Speaker 4: just want to be in my house and do a
Speaker 4: big ship every.
Speaker 3: Day and run around and then nap and then nap
Speaker 3: and get bowls of meat. It's a very nice cat,
Speaker 3: that cat. Yeah's gorgeous. What about the food though? Has
Speaker 3: that cat eating? Well?
Speaker 4: He has wet He has wet food in the morning,
Speaker 4: which is like meats but like posh meats, and then
Speaker 4: sort of a bowl of dry food in the evening.
Speaker 4: But I think if I'm the cat, then I've got
Speaker 4: all the cat's thoughts, right, so I would enjoy that food.
Speaker 4: I don't remember when I used to be a judge
Speaker 4: on Great British Men.
Speaker 3: You do, I it depends how much sort of you've
Speaker 3: programmed for this life, because you get to be in
Speaker 3: charge of it. If you've left a couple of gaps
Speaker 3: where you can still keep some memories. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well maybe if I left a couple of gaps, I
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't Brittany wouldn't remember what human food tastes like,
Speaker 4: so I could then enjoy the cat food.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I've got control of the cat right when I'm
Speaker 4: the cat, I'm not just like.
Speaker 3: It's not like being John not trapped in the cat. No,
Speaker 3: you are the cat. Yeah, yeah, is it me? Or
Speaker 3: except for the smell? Doesn't cat food look fucking great? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Smelling smell, I think maybe I want to eat a
Speaker 3: cat food. Maybe that'd get me on board. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well maybe if you come back as a cat as well,
Speaker 4: you can come over with the come over and we'll
Speaker 4: have dinner together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It would be the first time we've ever both enjoyed
Speaker 4: a dinner at the same time.
Speaker 3: A cat dinner party. Yeah, the first time I go
Speaker 3: to a dinner party a cat. Well, welcome back, cat.
Speaker 3: Now you are here, we the people of the planet,
Speaker 3: want to know what you used to think about films
Speaker 3: before you now are a cat.
Speaker 4: You get it, I get it. So you're not asking
Speaker 4: me when I'm a cat what films I like?
Speaker 3: It's sort of just before you come back. Unless you
Speaker 3: want you can throw in some cat. But I don't
Speaker 3: know how much the cats watched the cat's only got
Speaker 3: the last fight? How was your cat? Like three? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's more you before you came back to work, just
Speaker 3: before you became a cat, like look this guy's well,
Speaker 3: I'll send you back as a cat at the end.
Speaker 4: Because my cat answers would be like my favorite film
Speaker 4: is a laser pointer on the floor, that sort.
Speaker 3: Of yeah, yeah. So I haven't send you back yet.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it. I know what you want. You
Speaker 3: won't be a cat. I always like to test the format, Bret.
Speaker 3: It's very important and as usual of the format is
Speaker 3: absolutely water tight. So before I send you back as
Speaker 3: a cat, depending on your answers, based on what I
Speaker 3: think of the films you say things. For the first thing,
Speaker 3: the people of Earth wanted to notice, what's your favorite
Speaker 3: remake of a film?
Speaker 4: Now we might have I might have mentioned this film
Speaker 4: on one of the previous podcasts, but certainly not for
Speaker 4: a proper answer. I think my favorite remake, and it's
Speaker 4: a fairly recent one, is the is the Suspiria remake?
Speaker 4: Good film? Good film? Because I don't for me. It
Speaker 4: doesn't even feel like a remake.
Speaker 3: Like I could.
Speaker 4: I could watch the original Suspiria and the Modern Suspiria
Speaker 4: back to back in a film marathon, and you wouldn't
Speaker 4: feel like you were watching the same story. Really, like
Speaker 4: it's a It takes the energy of the first one
Speaker 4: and does something different. And also it's bloody horrible. There's
Speaker 4: some horrible bits in it.
Speaker 3: Brat you love that, you love horrible.
Speaker 4: The dance studio scene, which is the one that sticks
Speaker 4: out the most where she gets all broken up and
Speaker 4: stuff is horrible. And then obviously Tilda Swinson just I
Speaker 4: think she's every character. I've not done the research, but
Speaker 4: I think she plays every character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's playing
Speaker 3: to Cocha Johnson as well. Yeah, he plays, She plays
Speaker 3: all the characters. It is a great film. I really
Speaker 3: like it. I like it more than the original Forgive Forgive.
Speaker 4: We saw the original together, of course. Yeah, Goblin played
Speaker 4: the Yeah, Goblin played the life soundtrack. Absolutely love it.
Speaker 4: I love both of them. But I think I think
Speaker 4: it is it is my favorite remake. And also I
Speaker 4: should probably set the top of this if if listeners
Speaker 4: haven't heard me on this podcast before. I don't know
Speaker 4: a lot about films, and also when I watch a film,
Speaker 4: I tend to completely forget about it immediately. So I think,
Speaker 4: my love, I just listened to you and Nish doing
Speaker 4: the best of it. Was like, when you and Nish
Speaker 4: watch films, do you just write a thesis in your
Speaker 4: head as you're watching it? Have to have that amount
Speaker 4: to say about films, and to remember so many films
Speaker 4: blows my mind. I'm like, there needs some at least
Speaker 4: four explosions within the first ten minutes to wake me up.
Speaker 3: But you remember, like your daily existence and food and stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't remember anything else. My brain just retains film
Speaker 3: stuff and then forget family and friends in life.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, fair enough. Yeah, so it's going to be.
Speaker 4: This is going to be I think probably one of
Speaker 4: the more basic episodes.
Speaker 3: No, it's honor. I don't bring you back four times.
Speaker 3: If I think you've got nothing to say said, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, your majesty. I'll tell you my favorite remake,
Speaker 3: even though I never do. But I just realized, go on,
Speaker 3: I think it's Pete's Dragon, And I say that as
Speaker 3: somebody fucking loves Pete Draggon the originally love It. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't change a thing, but the remake's so different.
Speaker 3: But it does have a dragon and a guy called
Speaker 3: peteing it and he's beautiful. There's your answer. There we go.
Speaker 3: What's the one actor you would watch in anything?
Speaker 4: There's only one answer for this, and occasionally I will
Speaker 4: be very confident about my answer, and this is one
Speaker 4: of them. And the only answer for this is Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: Great answer.
Speaker 4: I think you can put You could put him in anything,
Speaker 4: and you never know what he's going to do, even
Speaker 4: if you started watching the film for an hour. You
Speaker 4: can't predict what his character is going to do in
Speaker 4: the next scene or how he's going to perform it.
Speaker 3: And that's what I like about him.
Speaker 4: You can't predict word to word what he's going to
Speaker 4: do with the next word. He might whisper the whisper
Speaker 4: the first word, then he's screaming at the top of
Speaker 4: his lungs for the second word. Then he's crouching down
Speaker 4: and doing a different voice for the third word. And
Speaker 4: it's addictive. It's absolutely addictive to watch him, and I
Speaker 4: don't really care about the film around him.
Speaker 3: A lot of the time. I just want I just
Speaker 3: want to see him do stuff. That's a really good answer,
Speaker 3: very thoughtful. I love him. What's the film you changed
Speaker 3: your mind on significantly from the first time you saw it? Okay?
Speaker 4: Well, I saw the film Sideways many years ago, and
Speaker 4: everyone told me it was good, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it is, and looking back on it, I don't think
Speaker 4: I understood it. I don't think I got it really,
Speaker 4: but I was like, I think it's about middle aged man.
Speaker 3: Isn't it.
Speaker 4: And I probably was quite young when I saw it,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't really understand why we're
Speaker 4: supposed to be enjoying this or why these characters are
Speaker 4: doing what they're doing. But everyone told me it was good,
Speaker 4: so I was like, buhyuess, it's good, and I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Have you watched it recently?
Speaker 4: No, I've not watched it recently. Maybe I'll go back
Speaker 4: and watch it again. But I think I have changed
Speaker 4: my mind significantly because now I've just got a bit
Speaker 4: more confidence in what I enjoy and I feel a
Speaker 4: little bit more emboldened to say I don't think I
Speaker 4: did enjoy that.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Sorry to be carried along with
Speaker 3: the wave. I think that's a big step, big step
Speaker 3: in your development. The thing with Sideways. Sideways is an
Speaker 3: excellent film, but it's also interesting that it was so
Speaker 3: critically acclaimed even though it is brilliant, because I think
Speaker 3: it is about critics. Like I said, I think, if
Speaker 3: you're a sort of miserable middle aged man who sits
Speaker 3: and slags things off, you watch Sideways and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's me. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's this
Speaker 3: guy just with a very sort of disappointed series of
Speaker 3: sort of disappointing things and being angry about petty thing.
Speaker 3: I think it really appealed to.
Speaker 4: Maybe I would like it now because that's that's sort
Speaker 4: of who I'm going to turn into.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: So maybe it's a grower. Maybe it's a grower on me.
Speaker 3: And you like wine and shit, it's people going on
Speaker 3: about that, oh this is the right thing to hather
Speaker 3: for meal I always lost, but I don't think I
Speaker 3: necessarily did.
Speaker 4: At the time when I saw it, I probably thought
Speaker 4: that was a bit wonky, and I still maintain that
Speaker 4: that is a wanky thing to do to be into wine.
Speaker 4: But it's slowly seeping into my life. So maybe now,
Speaker 4: maybe I would watch it, and I'd hate it even
Speaker 4: more because it's holding up a mirror to my future.
Speaker 4: If you can indeed hold a mirror to the future,
Speaker 4: you get and don't worry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a what what what's the film? Well?
Speaker 4: I do forget how quickly you blust through these questions, Brett.
Speaker 3: I know James got mad with me when we did it.
Speaker 4: Well, Nicola, you know so much to talk about Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 4: and we just we just loved it.
Speaker 3: What would you like? Well, well, well, the thing with
Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage is he's on a he's on a full
Speaker 3: on renaissance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't trust that. You can't trust that
Speaker 4: withn't it Cage?
Speaker 3: He's done two masterpieces in a row, which is unusual
Speaker 3: for him, But that means there's an absolute stinker around
Speaker 3: the corner. But his performance in that stinker is going
Speaker 3: to be as good as it has been in the masterpieces,
Speaker 3: and that he is consistently brilliant. But I think his
Speaker 3: choices are wild, and I love that. I did have
Speaker 3: a theory about him. Maybe I've said it before, but
Speaker 3: he in the beginning like he did like sort of
Speaker 3: sort of proper films and all sorts of films, and
Speaker 3: then he won an Oscar for Lieve in Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: and I felt like he won the Oscar and then thought,
Speaker 3: I don't have to do proper stuff anymore. I've proved
Speaker 3: my point. I've proved you I'm a proper actor. Now
Speaker 3: I'm going to take acid and hang upside down and
Speaker 3: scream a lot on my head.
Speaker 4: Now when you say that two classics in a row,
Speaker 4: we are, of course talking about Renfield.
Speaker 3: We're talking about We're talking about Pig and Dream Scenario.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Renfield. I mean it's great. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's Nicholas Cage, just Dracula. What else do you want?
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 4: I've still not seen Dream Scenario, which was on my list.
Speaker 4: Pig I thought was absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: And there's also the name of my cat that you're
Speaker 3: going to become. Yes, sorry, I made you do more
Speaker 3: on that. No, you did, and I'm happy to. And
Speaker 3: as as for your sideways, think, listen, there are films
Speaker 3: I don't understand. You think I'm clever, but I'm also
Speaker 3: secretly really thick. And there are sort of films like
Speaker 3: Spike Lee's Inside Man, which is considered one of his
Speaker 3: like mainstream blockbusters. I didn't understand it. I got to
Speaker 3: the end and I was like, what happened. I don't
Speaker 3: understand anything that happened in that film, and it's just
Speaker 3: a heist film. But I didn't follow a second of it.
Speaker 3: I was very confused. Sometimes I do understand films.
Speaker 4: It's rare, but I mean, James might have spoken to
Speaker 4: you about this on the podcast we Won't See Mother
Speaker 4: Together Darren Aronofsky's Mother, and after he was like, oh, man,
Speaker 4: I didn't Oh that was so good.
Speaker 3: But I didn't understand anything.
Speaker 4: And I explained all of the theories that I've worked
Speaker 4: out in my head while the film was on, and
Speaker 4: he was like, I can't believe it. He didn't even
Speaker 4: pick up on Mother Nature. Come on, mate, film's called Mother.
Speaker 3: Maybe listen. I think I also saw Wicked, not the film,
Speaker 3: the musical. The musical, yeah, which you know plays to
Speaker 3: families and children and people across the world. Act one happened.
Speaker 3: I was into it. Then there was an interval Act
Speaker 3: too began and I thought, if I missed something, I
Speaker 3: have no idea what's going Well, what didn't you understand?
Speaker 3: I didn't understand what was going on in act too,
Speaker 3: I was like, I think there's been a time some
Speaker 3: stuff's going on. I missed the switch off because I
Speaker 3: have no idea what it's happening. And he spent the
Speaker 3: second act being deeply confused. Are you sure you left
Speaker 3: during the interval?
Speaker 4: Are you sure you didn't stand up fifteen minutes in
Speaker 4: and go and sit in the bar for twenty minutes
Speaker 4: and then come back in and it was just still
Speaker 4: the first half.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I'm going to
Speaker 3: be reading the cliff notes before I see that. I
Speaker 3: tell you a couple of bangers in that though. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what is your favorite documentary film? Edward Gamble? Now?
Speaker 4: I had my answer all planned, and then I listened
Speaker 4: to the episode with a Castle that you did when
Speaker 4: he had his honor and he said what he said anvil,
Speaker 4: And I think that's my Then that should be my
Speaker 4: answer because I'm the guy who likes heavy metals, so
Speaker 4: that should be a protect That should be a protected
Speaker 4: answer for me, because that is a perfect documentary and
Speaker 4: I love it so much. And also I did a
Speaker 4: Spotify podcast series called Lifers, which was basically me interviewing
Speaker 4: different metal bands who were in a similar situation to anvil.
Speaker 4: So you know this, this is my wheelhouse Brett. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but anyway, I've said King of Kong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah, come on, yeah, but
Speaker 3: I want you to have anviil because you're right. He
Speaker 3: fucking stole it. He stole it.
Speaker 4: But you know I've got King of cong as a backup.
Speaker 4: I think it's a fantastic character study. There's an evil
Speaker 4: one and there's a good one, and it's about a subculture,
Speaker 4: and I love learning about subcultures. I love seeing how
Speaker 4: angry nerds can get. I loved how involved they were
Speaker 4: in that world. And yeah, you find yourself absolutely rooting
Speaker 4: for one of the guys and absolutely despising the other one,
Speaker 4: which means it's probably not a particularly representative documentary of reality.
Speaker 4: But it just it turned into what felt like a
Speaker 4: scripted drama. I loved it.
Speaker 3: Great answer, are you doing any more life? As? I
Speaker 3: enjoyed that, and I don't care for the things you
Speaker 3: care about?
Speaker 4: Yes, no, no more lifers. I think it probably cost
Speaker 4: them too much money for quite a niche a niche topic.
Speaker 4: They didn't want to put me on the train to
Speaker 4: the Midlands anymore to talk to aging men about when
Speaker 4: they support a Metallica. You know, but I absolutely love that.
Speaker 4: It's it's a really fun and occasionally quite emotional podcast
Speaker 4: because there's something there's something really emotive about people who
Speaker 4: throw their whole life into an artistic pursuit when they
Speaker 4: know and everyone else knows, it's probably not going to
Speaker 4: make them any money. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 4: an amazing thing and something that I couldn't do.
Speaker 3: I do comedy to make the big bucks. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're you're only in it for the money, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's always been your way. I remember as an open
Speaker 3: Mica you'd be like, give me that tenor.
Speaker 4: Maybe like no, that's the split between all of the apps.
Speaker 4: I am seen, I should get seven pounds.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Well, what's your favorite sequel? Oh?
Speaker 4: Now, I struggled over this to not sound like a
Speaker 4: basic bitch, Brett.
Speaker 3: What did you want to say?
Speaker 4: Well, I've got I've got a list of three. Back
Speaker 4: to the Future too boring, Paddington two boring. It's just
Speaker 4: I know you look angry now, but you know those
Speaker 4: are the first answers that came to me. But then
Speaker 4: I think I am I am going to say night
Speaker 4: More on Elm Street three Dream Warriors really good. It's
Speaker 4: such a stunning film. It's the first funny one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the first one with jokes. They completely like reinvigorated the
Speaker 4: franchise because I think they could have just kept shitting
Speaker 4: those out for ages because Freddy Kruege is such a
Speaker 4: good bad guy. But it's the first one where they
Speaker 4: actually put jokes in and he does his little little
Speaker 4: horrible things. He says, just as he kills someone, welcome
Speaker 4: to Primetime, bitch, I think is in that one when
Speaker 4: he smashes an aspiring.
Speaker 3: Actress through the TV.
Speaker 4: Oh well, look, it's going to come up later when
Speaker 4: we do the Patreon section as well. But I absolutely
Speaker 4: love Nightmare on Elm Street three Dream Worries. And you
Speaker 4: know what, I googled it to day to find the
Speaker 4: fact for you about it? Tell me John a fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's Frank Darabumt's first writing credit, no way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he wrote the whole thing, I think. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: certainly was involved in the writing of it. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: pretty cool. That is pretty cool. You ever seen The Mist?
Speaker 4: I love The Mist? Yeah, I absolutely love The Mist.
Speaker 4: It's the most depressing ending to a film of all time.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and I love he made the show sang
Speaker 3: Redemption and went and everyone went, oh, it's a life
Speaker 3: of family, and he went, here you go. It's the
Speaker 3: mist things.
Speaker 4: It truly is the most miserable end to a film,
Speaker 4: but it made me so happy. I love people absolutely
Speaker 4: leaning into misery, and especially when it involves just that
Speaker 4: violating the sacred boundary of killing kids, where it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: fuck it, everything's terrible.
Speaker 3: Enjoy that. No, no, you watch again. Jesus you've got
Speaker 3: a DVD tang on Dream Warriors. That's your answer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we'll go when he become it's when he
Speaker 3: become a rice comic. Yeah. Is that The teenagers in
Speaker 3: a like group therapy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in like I guess like clinic, a home
Speaker 4: for it's like mentally troubled teens. And they're trying to
Speaker 4: do a sleep clinic. And Nancy comes back from the
Speaker 4: first one. She wasn't in the second one. The second
Speaker 4: one is really bad. They like basically they try and
Speaker 4: wreck on the whole thing and it doesn't work, so
Speaker 4: then it just moves on it. Three is essentially a
Speaker 4: sequel to one, right, And I think It's amazing, just brilliant,
Speaker 4: so eighties, like every every character is a stereotype. There's
Speaker 4: like the little nerd kid, there's that, there's the tough guy,
Speaker 4: there's the sort of cool drug addict team. And there's
Speaker 4: also a very horrible bit where she falls asleep. I
Speaker 4: think she's a heroin addict and Freddie's fingers all turned
Speaker 4: to syringes injector. Yeah, very It really really made an
Speaker 4: impression on my young mind. That one I bought the
Speaker 4: box set of all the DVDs.
Speaker 3: I bought a load of Heroine. I've got so much
Speaker 3: Heroin and injected it with my fingers. What's your favorite
Speaker 3: film by a director you don't usually like? This was?
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got an answer. It was tricky because
Speaker 4: I don't think I view things in terms of, oh,
Speaker 4: who's directing it. I'm not like, come on, let's go
Speaker 4: and see this latest, this latest film by Bloody Glar.
Speaker 4: I have directors I like who are like oteurs and
Speaker 4: you know, have a good, good back catalog, like you know,
Speaker 4: like Quentin Tarantino and think of a Jig Fincher. But
Speaker 4: this might sound unfair, but my favorite film by director
Speaker 4: that I don't usually like is Old.
Speaker 3: I love Old.
Speaker 4: Old is one of the the most It's the most
Speaker 4: fun I've had watching a film in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 4: I was gripped by it. It made me laugh out
Speaker 4: loud throughout. I don't know if that was the intention.
Speaker 4: Some of the best plot exposition conversations I've ever seen
Speaker 4: in a film, like just stood on a beach where
Speaker 4: everyone's getting old and they're calmly picking apart why people
Speaker 4: might be getting old, as if anyone would do that.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was. It was so much fun
Speaker 3: beginning to end.
Speaker 4: It's such a stupid idea, and I think he absolutely
Speaker 4: nailed it, and a lot of his other films I'm
Speaker 4: just not I mean, sure, sixth sense, but it's not
Speaker 4: one I go back and watch, obviously, But I think
Speaker 4: a lot of the other films around Old haven't been
Speaker 4: to my taste or didn't quite land in the way
Speaker 4: that I'd hoped. But Old is just it's an absolute riot.
Speaker 4: It feels like being on a really stupid roller coaster.
Speaker 3: He's great Old. It's a great idea. I think that
Speaker 3: is an older great Yeah, I like I would very
Speaker 3: much my theory on Old, as they are on a
Speaker 3: lot of his films. It feels like what we're watching.
Speaker 3: If I may be slightly negative, but I'm saying this
Speaker 3: is a fan. Yeah, it feels like we're watching a
Speaker 3: first draft. If that's like, it's a good there's so
Speaker 3: much good stuff and it's so many great ideas. But
Speaker 3: it could have used a little policy just to finesse it,
Speaker 3: make it a bit sut of there. No, the wouldn't
Speaker 3: I would not be giving that as an answer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have been doing it.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be talking about old if it was polished,
Speaker 4: or he'd go, maybe this is just one character talking
Speaker 4: about why everyone's getting old on a beach for ages.
Speaker 4: You know, why would anyone put that in a script.
Speaker 4: It's not a natural conversation at all. And they go
Speaker 4: on a beach and they get old. Who's doing that
Speaker 4: sort of film anymore? That's brilliant, really good. I think
Speaker 4: it was maybe based on a comic book, I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: which it feels it feels like a comic book film,
Speaker 4: like a one shot comic.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just great fun. It's quite moving as well.
Speaker 3: When it was when he's like, what were we arguing about?
Speaker 3: I don't remember, and then they just sit and have
Speaker 3: a caddle and I'm like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's nice, isn't it. It's nice, it's nice.
Speaker 4: But then you see the lab and stuff. Oh it's great,
Speaker 4: so silly.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite film that you get the most stick
Speaker 3: about loving from people? Actually, says sick.
Speaker 4: Do I have to give a specific film or can
Speaker 4: I give a franchise?
Speaker 3: Both? All right?
Speaker 4: Hunger Games. I did not know you loved the Hunger Games.
Speaker 4: I fucking love Hunger Games. I absolutely love the original
Speaker 4: Hunger Games films. The first two probably my favorites. I've
Speaker 4: seen them multiple times. I remember when I lived with Nishkumar,
Speaker 4: your friend of mine, I used to watch the Hunger
Speaker 4: Games films a lot, and he gave me a lot
Speaker 4: of stick for that, because yeah, technically it's, you know,
Speaker 4: a young adult sort of property, isn't it. It's for teenagers,
Speaker 4: teenage girls specifically, I think. But it's great.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 4: I love Battle Royal and the first time I was
Speaker 4: watching Battle Royal, I thought, you know, if only Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Was in this, I think it's correct.
Speaker 4: I think it's like weird, sort of fancy wish fulfillment stuff,
Speaker 4: like the picking all the weapons and designing the costumes,
Speaker 4: and a wonderful turn from Lenny Kravitz. Kravitz is a
Speaker 4: wardrobe designer in The Hunger Games. Yes, please don't mind
Speaker 4: that a man who himself has had multiple wardrobe malfunctions on.
Speaker 3: But I think it's not. What do you Harrelson's in it?
Speaker 3: Come on? What a turn? What a turn from our friend? Wouldy?
Speaker 3: Donald Savilim one of my favorite accent. Yes, President Snow,
Speaker 3: it's good stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've watched them, watched him again recently, actually, and
Speaker 4: you know what they hold up, even especially in these
Speaker 4: fractured political times.
Speaker 3: You've got to have takes the drag of his pipe
Speaker 3: in political times. What about You've got to go see
Speaker 3: The Ballad of I Will Do? I was thinking, is
Speaker 3: it it's a prequel though? Right? So prequel? I think
Speaker 3: it's how Dona Sutherland became Donna Sablind or something, is it?
Speaker 4: So, in terms of watching a prequel, do you recommend
Speaker 4: watching the films that are out already in reverse order
Speaker 4: to build up to the prequel.
Speaker 3: We watch everything backwits, Yeah, until you go back quits.
Speaker 3: I sort of don't like the idea of prequels ever,
Speaker 3: because of the fact. You know that. Like I say
Speaker 3: this having enjoyed loads of prequels, but in theory, I'm
Speaker 3: always bummed out by a prequel because, like, for example,
Speaker 3: young Indiana James, you know he's not going to die,
Speaker 3: there's no jog. Yeah, yeah, because he gets out. But
Speaker 3: on the other round, it was really good. What am
Speaker 3: I talking about?
Speaker 4: One of my least favorite things that they do in
Speaker 4: prequels though as well, they'll do like a really heavy
Speaker 4: handed sort of wink to the camera referencing something that
Speaker 4: happens in a film set after that as well. It's
Speaker 4: like in Doctor Who when like he'll meet Shakespeare and
Speaker 4: the doctor will say to be or not to be
Speaker 4: by accident. Shakespeare's like, what was that? Oh that's good,
Speaker 4: and he like writes it down. You're like, yeah, get
Speaker 4: some of my tits.
Speaker 3: Well, like in Titanic when he says that he'll never
Speaker 3: amount to match, I'm like, all of that stuff, all
Speaker 3: of that's absolutely hate it. No one said that, so
Speaker 3: you can't make that up, thank you very much. No.
Speaker 3: And to be fair, the rest of the film does
Speaker 3: seem like a documentary. What is what is the single?
Speaker 3: Here we go ahead, this is all I really care
Speaker 3: about obviously, what is the single sexiest moment in a film?
Speaker 4: I swear you ask a version of this question every
Speaker 4: single time we have a conversation. What was the last
Speaker 4: I swear you asked this in the last time we
Speaker 4: did a podcast. Yeah, I'm sure what was what was
Speaker 4: the question in the last because I think the last
Speaker 4: time we recorded one of these Judgment Day, Yeah, I said,
Speaker 4: I ended up talking about the bit inn eight mile
Speaker 4: when when you can tell that it's going in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Well it's a slightly different let's have a look what
Speaker 4: the Judgment day question is, just to be yeah, because
Speaker 4: it's completely different.
Speaker 3: It's the it's the PERV question. But you have at
Speaker 3: every single one of your have everything, yeah, your basis.
Speaker 3: You know, it'll be slightly different, completely different version of
Speaker 3: this question. Yeah, okay, a completely different version. So I
Speaker 3: think I've got two answers. I'm going to give the
Speaker 3: answer that was originally going to give, and then I'll
Speaker 3: give the answer that I've just thought of. Okay.
Speaker 4: J Lo's introduction in Hustlers where she does a dance
Speaker 4: is insane, that's you know, and that only came out
Speaker 4: a few years ago, so you know, I'm watching that
Speaker 4: as a man who should be in control of these things,
Speaker 4: and I was watching it feeling like a teenager watching
Speaker 4: watching watching something sexy. I think she's just she is
Speaker 4: incredible in that film, and she looks absolutely amazing, and
Speaker 4: that dance is incredible as well, and it shot sexily.
Speaker 4: It's shot in the way to make her look utterly
Speaker 4: powerful and utterly in control, and I thought that was fantastic.
Speaker 4: But I've just remembered the bit in Freddy Got Fingered
Speaker 4: where the it's not Freddy Got Fingered?
Speaker 3: Which one is it?
Speaker 4: I don't think I can give this answer now because
Speaker 4: I've just forgotten the name of the film. It's a
Speaker 4: really bad film anyway, But there's a bit where a
Speaker 4: rips her shirt open at the table and she's got
Speaker 4: all Pierce nibbles. Is there a film called Say It
Speaker 4: Ain't So?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What is that? Say it Isn't So? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I saw that in the cinema when I was on
Speaker 4: a school trip once, and yeah, there's a moment in
Speaker 4: that film that, when I was a teenager, was particularly impactful.
Speaker 3: So is that or Freddy Got Fingered?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's Freddy Got Fingered, But you
Speaker 4: know that's a great film, Daddy, would you like some sausage?
Speaker 3: See? Why can I remember that? And not any like?
Speaker 4: Incredible film about the human condition and incredibly written, incredibly shot,
Speaker 4: with an amazing score. But I can remember when Tom
Speaker 4: Green has bits of string tied to his fingers, hooked
Speaker 4: up to a pulley system with sausages tied to the
Speaker 4: other end, and he's playing a keyboard saying Daddy, would
Speaker 4: you like some sausage?
Speaker 3: And ripped on looks really annoyed, but that's important, you know.
Speaker 3: That's thank you. You understand the question, You've answered it correctly.
Speaker 3: Thank you. What is the film that means the most
Speaker 3: to you as a family. That could be your wife,
Speaker 3: that could be your kids, or you with your parents,
Speaker 3: or however you interpret family, Vin Diesel.
Speaker 4: I think we we discussed Scott Pilgrim on the first
Speaker 4: time I did it, because that's the first film that
Speaker 4: me and my wife went to the cinema to see together.
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to say that I'll pick something
Speaker 4: that me and my mum really enjoy and have done
Speaker 4: since it came out, and I have watched multiple times together,
Speaker 4: and I think it's probably the first time that me
Speaker 4: and my mum enjoyed something on the same level. So
Speaker 4: it sort of really sticks in my head. Is that
Speaker 4: moment of feeling like you're getting something and Missus Doubtfire
Speaker 4: is the answer. And I still, I mean, it still
Speaker 4: probably holds up as one of my top ten films.
Speaker 4: I think it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, Ed. Did you know I like
Speaker 3: Missus doubt Fire? No, it's never come up. I don't think. No.
Speaker 3: I love it's incredible.
Speaker 4: It's such a good film, and I mean very funny,
Speaker 4: very emotional and quite sweet as the You know, I
Speaker 4: am the product of a broken home and grew up
Speaker 4: with my mum and I just remember thinking, if only
Speaker 4: my dad could dresses a Scottish nanny to come and
Speaker 4: look after.
Speaker 3: Me, you little heartbreak. I absolutely love it. The fascical
Speaker 3: scene do you keep answering the door and your dad
Speaker 3: wouldn't be wearing a wig? And yeah, do you care
Speaker 3: or not? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the cast is obviously incredible. And I
Speaker 4: tell you, a moment I think about a lot, and
Speaker 4: it's weird that I think about this a lot, but
Speaker 4: it almost refreshes me to think about it. Is when
Speaker 4: he throws a lime at the back of Pierce and
Speaker 4: Brosna's head at the swimming pool, and it hits his
Speaker 4: wet head, and it just it just looks so sort
Speaker 4: of fresh and delicious.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Just a lime going
Speaker 3: off a wet head. I'm like, oh, I want to
Speaker 3: be on holiday. You really do love food. But that's
Speaker 3: your takeaway in that moment? Is that lime? That's one
Speaker 3: of the sexiest moment on the Lime. Yeah, actually, maybe
Speaker 3: such that maybe I changed that to my sexy answers
Speaker 3: when the line bounces off the back of Pears Brosnan's
Speaker 3: head versus that fight.
Speaker 4: It's gorgeous hair and that lovely, gorgeous, gorgeous man, lovely
Speaker 4: juicy lime. What more good you ask for? Did you
Speaker 4: guys see it with your mum when you was a
Speaker 4: child of divorce.
Speaker 3: I think we had it on video. I think we
Speaker 3: had it on videotape.
Speaker 4: But no, we both we both absolutely love it and
Speaker 4: I think it's my favorite. It's my favorite Robin Williams joint.
Speaker 4: Is that controversial?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I think I haven't watched it since since it was out.
Speaker 3: What I'd have to give it a rewatch? Yeah? Have
Speaker 3: you been to see the music. Have you're taken your
Speaker 3: mum to the musical? In the No, I don't think
Speaker 3: that can hold up. Really, I mean, you really need
Speaker 3: Robin Williams in it, I think, and I don't think,
Speaker 3: as far as I'm aware, they haven't dedicated a whole
Speaker 3: song to the Lime. You don't know that they might
Speaker 3: have done fresh fresh Lime, weird weird head ah dear.
Speaker 3: What is the film that is as good or better
Speaker 3: than the book it is based on? Shining? Imagine?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd imagine you'll get this answer a lot as
Speaker 4: you do more of these episodes.
Speaker 3: But it's an honor to do this episode. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do this with anyone in Okay, right well,
Speaker 3: Shining absolutely the Shining. I have read the book.
Speaker 4: It's good, obviously, Stephen King, I love Stephen King, but
Speaker 4: I think it's mainly the fuss he kicked up after
Speaker 4: the film came out that has met solidified my answer here,
Speaker 4: the fact that he's so blinded by what he did
Speaker 4: that he couldn't see that what Stanley Kubrick did was
Speaker 4: like a classic film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that and he made his own mini
Speaker 3: series to prove it, which was dreadful.
Speaker 4: I remember watching it on Channel five because that's what
Speaker 4: it went out on, and they just, I mean, why
Speaker 4: is he sitting there going on We've got to put
Speaker 4: the bees back in.
Speaker 3: We've got to put some more bees in hedge animals.
Speaker 3: The hedges need to be more animals.
Speaker 4: I think surely you should be like, I've written a
Speaker 4: good book. It's a multimillion bestseller, like ed like Glutton. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I would be happy if Stanley Kubrick wants to
Speaker 4: make my book and change some details.
Speaker 3: Do you think I have thought about this before? Edward
Speaker 3: the shining of it all? Because it's a bit like
Speaker 3: George Lucas with Star Wars, Like I can understand the
Speaker 3: ego problem of going it's my thing, you can't make
Speaker 3: it better, and then say it's better without me. I
Speaker 3: invented it, Like I feel sorry if it like I
Speaker 3: sort of get obviously this is the film is better.
Speaker 3: But I understand him finding that a difficult thing to
Speaker 3: get his head round, because he must be like, what,
Speaker 3: but I wrote it?
Speaker 4: But then you just need to take a breath and
Speaker 4: have a look around at the fifty other books you've
Speaker 4: written and just be like, I'll be all right, at
Speaker 4: least it isn't. The adaptations of it aren't as good
Speaker 4: as the book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's listen, most of his stuff isn't as good
Speaker 3: as the book. That's the thing, most of them. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's what he wants. Maybe he's like, I love it
Speaker 3: when those films are terrible. Yeah, people go, yeah, we
Speaker 3: should have just read the book.
Speaker 4: That's that's why he had to make his own version
Speaker 4: that was significantly poorer than the book.
Speaker 3: I think, just so his his r Yeah. Well, the
Speaker 3: Green Mile, which is one of my favorite Stephen King books,
Speaker 3: The film is nearly nearly perfect adaptation of the book.
Speaker 3: Everything that's in the book is in the film except
Speaker 3: for the last page of the book, which is why
Speaker 3: it's one of my favorite books. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: you missed out, Yeah, the last bit is that short?
Speaker 3: Is it a short story the Green Mile? Or is it? Now?
Speaker 4: It's a big one, big old point. Well obviously with it.
Speaker 4: The thing they leave out from the book is the
Speaker 4: thing they had to leave out where they will have
Speaker 4: sex with the girl, where all the kids, where all
Speaker 4: the kids have sex and stuff. Do you think he
Speaker 4: does that? Do you think he puts the scene in
Speaker 4: like that? To go like, yeah, good luck, goodluck adapting
Speaker 4: nap mate.
Speaker 3: Well after the shining, he's like, yeah, right, you think
Speaker 3: you can do better? Yeah, in Kubrick, make this scene work. No,
Speaker 3: it is so fun. Have you read it? I ain't
Speaker 3: read it. Yes, I have read it a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Actually I read it when I was quite young, and
Speaker 3: again had a massive impact on my brain. It's an
Speaker 3: absolutely fantastic book. It's a big it's a big old
Speaker 3: beast of a book. And I actually think the first
Speaker 3: Modern film did quite a good job of adapting it.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed. I enjoyed that that half of the of
Speaker 4: the two films. Yeah, but no, I think he you
Speaker 4: know that, I understand. I understand that feeling of being like,
Speaker 4: but it's my thing. And now you're saying you've made
Speaker 4: a better film. But you know, he took the spirit
Speaker 4: of it and you know, and did some other stuff
Speaker 4: with it. I would be Stanley Kubrick. You've got you've
Speaker 4: got to be overjoyed with that, surely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I'm just saying I
Speaker 3: have empathy. I'm sure it must be difficult to have
Speaker 3: everyone go he's better, did the better version? Of your thing? Yeah,
Speaker 3: how does the author of ted Lasso feel? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Stephen wrote the original ted Lasso, didn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty pissed off because it is when there's
Speaker 3: a lot more kids are backing. What is your favorite
Speaker 3: score to a film composed not songs?
Speaker 4: See we're getting now, we're getting into the realms of
Speaker 4: wankiness here, Brett with these questions. This is an Ishkumar question.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it counts as a score, but
Speaker 4: I listened to it a lot. Is the eighth grade?
Speaker 4: Is Ana Meredith's eighth grade? Eighth grade? And they're not songs,
Speaker 4: they are scores. She's a classical composer. Yeah, that's a score.
Speaker 3: That's a score. I love it.
Speaker 4: I think it's absolutely brilliant. I mean I listened to
Speaker 4: I think it's Nautilus, which is the track that plays
Speaker 4: when she's getting into the swimming pool.
Speaker 3: I listened to that a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the most anxiety inducing music, but it feels
Speaker 4: heavier than even the most disgusting metal that I listened to.
Speaker 4: And it's just constantly ratressing up the tension and just
Speaker 4: until you can't believe it, and then it just sort
Speaker 4: of lets you hang there.
Speaker 3: But I love the whole that the whole.
Speaker 4: Of the score for the film I think is fantastic
Speaker 4: and very moody and really takes you there. I think
Speaker 4: it would be a very different film without that score.
Speaker 3: Good answer. Thanks, What is your favorite single set piece
Speaker 3: from a film that isn't a classic? Now, how are
Speaker 3: we defining set piece? Brett? Sorry, to test the format more.
Speaker 3: What we're saying is, for example, a sequence a seat,
Speaker 3: could be a scene, could be a moment, could be
Speaker 3: a thing that happens in a film. But instead of
Speaker 3: going like, oh, you know the ending of cast a Blank,
Speaker 3: cast Bank is a classic, I'm saying a film that
Speaker 3: might not be might have dodgy bits. It isn't a
Speaker 3: perfect film, but there's a sequence in it where you're like,
Speaker 3: I love that scene so much. That is a classical timer. Well,
Speaker 3: you might like this film a lot, but die hard
Speaker 3: for the car going into the helicopter. Yeah, when he
Speaker 3: shoots down helicopter with a car. Yeah, when the car
Speaker 3: drives up and it smashes into the police. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 3: he uses the car as a bullet. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You don't need anything else in the film as far
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, though. I think you're right.
Speaker 4: There are there are films that I don't think necessarily
Speaker 4: landed the ending or you know, I wasn't particularly engaged
Speaker 4: with the film as a whole, but that are entirely
Speaker 4: set pieces. So like free Fire, the Ben Weekly film
Speaker 4: free Fire, which is just one big set piece, really,
Speaker 4: isn't it. Yeah, And I really enjoyed the set piece
Speaker 4: nature of it, but I couldn't tell you anything about
Speaker 4: the plot or whether I actually enjoyed it or not.
Speaker 3: I liked all the shooting, then I think you like
Speaker 3: the film. I like the film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But all the john Wick films are basically one
Speaker 4: big set piece as well, aren't they.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you could do you miss an impossible as
Speaker 3: a series of set pieces.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm gonna I'm going to say, I'm going
Speaker 4: to say die Hard for car into the helicopter when
Speaker 4: he could driving a car into a helicopter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just think now, to come up with a new
Speaker 4: action movie set piece like that is pretty incredible because
Speaker 4: it sort of it feels like everything's been done and
Speaker 4: obviously Cruises pushed the boundaries of every mission impossible. But
Speaker 4: I just think car into a helicopter. Yes please, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a.
Speaker 3: Really perfect answer actually, because diod four is not a
Speaker 3: perfect film. Yeah, it's fine. I enjoyed it, but that moment,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah, but that moment in particular die Hard.
Speaker 3: What's the fifth one called Diehard for a day? Die Hard? Diehard?
Speaker 3: We're still here? What's it called? Look out with die Hard?
Speaker 3: Die Hard? Old? No, die Hard on? What's it called
Speaker 3: die Hard?
Speaker 4: I've I've died Hard again? Die Hard for is die
Speaker 4: Hard die free or something like that?
Speaker 3: Isn't it? I had four point that one. Oh, it's
Speaker 3: a good day to die Hard, that's it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that one I've got issues with. I really well, there's
Speaker 3: a scene in a Good Day to die Hard. I
Speaker 3: think he's in Russia where he quite early on sort
Speaker 3: of has to get a car and he sort of
Speaker 3: pulls a gun like on the motorway. That's sort of
Speaker 3: stands in front of the car and pulls a gun.
Speaker 3: So a car immediately breaks and the guy shouts at
Speaker 3: him in Russian scared. Bruce Willis goes, do you think
Speaker 3: I understand you? And kicks him and it gets in
Speaker 3: the car and I was like, oh, I feel like
Speaker 3: you're the bad guy in this film. You're in this
Speaker 3: man's country. You're you're visiting.
Speaker 4: Learn some basic phrases before you before your car jack
Speaker 4: in another country.
Speaker 3: Right, the poor guy, he's just driving his car. Suddenly
Speaker 3: you forgot I understand you. No, I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: know anything. I've just I've just been driving along, mind
Speaker 3: abound business and you've pulled a gun on me.
Speaker 4: Say spasiba, when do you take the car or something
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, just just a little bit of manners.
Speaker 4: I think a good day that I had worked for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, ped planballs, Peddy, Peddy, Peddy, What joy you
Speaker 3: would be. However, I've decided to send you back to
Speaker 3: Earth as a cat, a cat called pig that you
Speaker 3: will spend three years looking after until you're you die
Speaker 3: in an accident where you feel very slowly down a
Speaker 3: hill over and over and over and over and over it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was a bouncing off stuff until you die. This
Speaker 3: is fucking great, by the way. And then you know,
Speaker 3: Charlie will take over your your lady wife and hopefully
Speaker 3: she won't body slam you as a cat and your
Speaker 3: ly lovely food, and I'll come around as a cat
Speaker 3: and we'll have cat did the parties and we'll have
Speaker 3: a lovely time. But before that happens, can you pick
Speaker 3: one film that you will show your new cat friends
Speaker 3: when you begin your new existence? Says pick the cat.
Speaker 3: Thank you. So that's interesting. So now I've got to
Speaker 3: pick a film that will get me cat friends. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you'll come into it, but you get one DVD on
Speaker 3: your back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's only one choice that if I'm showing
Speaker 4: it's a cat's Dog Tooth and the cats are going
Speaker 4: to watch Dog Tooths.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're really freaking out the new cats. H
Speaker 3: new cats fucking weird. Well that's how I'll know which
Speaker 3: one I can be friends with if they enjoyed If
Speaker 3: they enjoy Dog Tooth as a film, but go, that's
Speaker 3: a bit weird.
Speaker 4: It's made me feel a bit weird. I'll be like,
Speaker 4: I can be friends with you as a cat. If
Speaker 4: they're like I thought that was rubbish, I'll be like,
Speaker 4: not gonna be friends with you. And if they were like,
Speaker 4: oh oh I love that, Yeah that was that was sexy,
Speaker 4: then I should be friends with them. Yeah that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: very smart.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you'd like to tell us about
Speaker 3: films that you haven't mentioned. I don't think so. I
Speaker 3: mean I do, I like I like films.
Speaker 4: I'd say you're one of the only people I talked
Speaker 4: to about films and if I that's true, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think so, because you will text me because you're very
Speaker 4: You're you're like a cast is about music in that
Speaker 4: you know you have a good understanding of people's film tastes.
Speaker 4: So you're like a film. You're a film, Samelie. So
Speaker 4: you will when you see a film you think one
Speaker 4: of your friends will enjoy your message them and say
Speaker 4: you should see that. It's up your street. And you're
Speaker 4: You're always right. So the Beast is on next on
Speaker 4: my list. It's really good because Samelio Brett has told me.
Speaker 3: Ped Brambles tell us what to do next. We should
Speaker 3: read your book now at your multi billion pound but.
Speaker 4: Flatten Flatten the multi course life is a very greedy boy.
Speaker 4: It's out in paper.
Speaker 3: About food life. Yeah, my live's mentioned, but only through
Speaker 3: food as a vehicle. Well, your life is the cracker
Speaker 3: you use so that we can eat cavea. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I thought you were going cheese there. No, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to sort of sound like some of you understand speos.
Speaker 4: Crackers and caveat ritz crackers, right, I guess you could. Yeah,
Speaker 4: pringles pringles with Cavio before you don't mind really food,
Speaker 4: I love it. And you're on tour with your yes,
Speaker 4: Hot Diggity Cucumber, Hot Diggidy Cucumber, Hot Diggidy Dog ontour
Speaker 4: in the UK for a bit more, then back on
Speaker 4: tour in the UK in September, and then maybe some
Speaker 4: more far flung places next year.
Speaker 1: Five.
Speaker 3: For those of you who missed the story, I did
Speaker 3: see this in America because it was the headline on
Speaker 3: the New York Times. Your poster is you eating a
Speaker 3: hot dog, but the London Underground didn't like you having
Speaker 3: a sausage, so they gave you a cucumber. Is that
Speaker 3: what happened? Well, it's sort of.
Speaker 4: They aren't allowed to put pictures of fast food on
Speaker 4: the London Underground network. They have restrictions in place for that,
Speaker 4: so our poster was turned down. So I redesigned it
Speaker 4: what got a Man Too and put a cucumber there
Speaker 4: instead of a hot dog And they were fine with
Speaker 4: that and popped it up.
Speaker 3: But it's still called Hot Diggity Dog. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: still had ketchup and mustard all over my face. The
Speaker 3: poster made less sense, but you know, at least we
Speaker 3: got it up there. I think it sales increased, if anything,
Speaker 3: once you added a cucumber. That's true, Eddie Peddie Pambles.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Brett. I love you. I love
Speaker 3: you too. If I come up with a fifth version,
Speaker 3: it will be such an honor for you to come back.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to receive this order. Thank you, Brett.
Speaker 3: Good day to you. Goodbye.
Speaker 2: So that was episode three hundred and six. Head over
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Speaker 2: Ed for giving us his time. Thanks to Scrubi's PIP
Speaker 2: and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Piece that's me.
Speaker 2: I'm the best. Wait, Brett wrote that I'm not saying that,
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Speaker 2: and Lisalidin for the photos. Brett will be back fully
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