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Speaker 1: On today's show, Got Danny Surrek with me, Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: We continue to react to what Michael Laflor had to

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Speaker 1: annual league meeting. Plus players are back in the building

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Speaker 1: next week the latest I'm Aras Johnson Junior and yes,

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Speaker 1: more uniform number changes. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Won a Baker? What Heart?

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Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. Right up the five, hit to

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Speaker 1: Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monster.

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grioler.

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Speaker 1: So how do we feel about today? Danny? April first,

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Speaker 1: April Fool's Day? Big deal, not a big deal? Have

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Speaker 1: we outgrown it? Has it jumped the shark? I've seen

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Speaker 1: several posts on social media already this morning, people trying

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Speaker 1: to engage in fool people, but I think. I think

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Speaker 1: by and large, many are a little bit smarter this

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I think people are trying to aim

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Speaker 1: On that's social media.

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Speaker 4: Think that's what it is, not to be super negative.

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Speaker 3: I think in a world of a lot of misinformation

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Speaker 4: Is not as fun because it kind of feels like

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Speaker 4: April Fool's Day many days of the year. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: I think pranks are great when your kid you're growing up,

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Speaker 1: out of the year in twenty twenty six, speaking of

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Speaker 1: today as well, here on aprilfers as the TVs here

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Yes, Fernanda Mendoza is holding his pro day.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if the Cardinals are there or not. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck. Make of that what you will. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are interested. And I don't think Danny it's going

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Speaker 3: Here's why I don't necessarily subscribe to that conversation is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on all of that.

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Speaker 3: It's not so simple as saying, let's tank and draft

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Speaker 3: So it's not a guarantee that you tank and you

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Speaker 3: Again, like I hope I'm not taking the conversation in

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Speaker 1: I can only assume means that there have been a

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Speaker 1: good number of players in the building at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. A lot of it is returning players

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Speaker 1: who want to work out, or returning players who are

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Speaker 1: working their way back from injury that are coming in

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Speaker 1: and using the facility. But I think there's an advantage

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Speaker 1: when you are in Arizona, good weather. Guys like being here,

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Speaker 1: and if you're going to be here, why not come

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Speaker 1: into the facility and work out. There's nothing on field

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. There's no coaching, but guys are

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Speaker 1: together talking and maybe having some of the same conversations

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Speaker 1: we are.

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Speaker 4: And it makes a difference.

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Speaker 3: You're building camaraderie, you're building chemistry that feeling of wanting

449
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Speaker 3: to play well, not just for yourself but for the

450
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Speaker 3: others in the locker room that you're sharing the field with.

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Speaker 3: I don't stress over players who are working out here

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Speaker 3: or not working out here, because look around the league

453
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Speaker 3: and Arizona is very rare in the sense that players

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Speaker 3: stay here and other teams find success. Right Like, as

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Speaker 3: long as you are where you need to be physically, mentally,

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Speaker 3: emotionally to reset to get stronger the way you need

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Speaker 3: to in the off season, and players have coaches that

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Speaker 3: they have worked out with for a long time that

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Speaker 3: they trust. So I don't get worried if a player

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Speaker 3: is choosing to spend their off season workouts in California

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Speaker 3: or Texas or Florida. But it is nice to have

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Speaker 3: a group here in Arizona for all those reasons of

463
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Speaker 3: not just working out together, but you're sharing meals together, right,

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Speaker 3: You're hanging out together, and that makes a difference, especially

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Speaker 3: in a transition of having a new head coach and

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Speaker 3: wanting to maintain the culture that has been set.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned coaches. Outside the building, there is a former

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman and current O line trainer, the Charles Bentley,

469
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Speaker 1: and a number of not only Cardinal offensive lineman, but

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Speaker 1: throughout the league, college and pro have gone to him

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Speaker 1: for offseason work, and recently the Charles Bentley posted a

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Speaker 1: video of Paris Johnson Junior. Now, we have not seen

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Speaker 1: Paris since the end of last season. He did speak

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Speaker 1: with reporters the day after the season. Remember he ended

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Speaker 1: the year on ir missing the final four games. He

476
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Speaker 1: said at the end of the season the knee was fine. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we know the knee is fine because Bentley posted

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Speaker 1: a video of Paris with box jumps and passets. And

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Speaker 1: again it's a short clip, but it does seem that

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Speaker 1: Paris is, if not one hundred percent, certainly close to that,

481
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Speaker 1: meaning he will be hopefully on the field for much

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Speaker 1: of the offseason work here. If he's not, I would

483
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Speaker 1: fully expect him to be okay by training camp. But

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Speaker 1: one just the athleticism and seeing your franchise left tackle

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Speaker 1: being ready to go and putting in the work in

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Speaker 1: the off season to make him in even better left

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Speaker 1: tackle than twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: It's always great to see players, you know, recovering from

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Speaker 3: an injury and it seems like they're on the right path.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and say he's one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent because he's doing a box jump. I think

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Speaker 3: we learned anything from BG Jualai, right, Like you can

493
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Speaker 3: have true different kinds of recoveries, and doing a box

494
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Speaker 3: jump is very different than doing sixty plus reps out

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Speaker 3: on a field in a game. Right. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna say he's one hundred percent here on April first,

497
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Speaker 3: when I don't really need him to be one hundred

498
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Speaker 3: percent until what September first, But it is great to

499
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Speaker 3: see that sort of recovery going on and those workouts.

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Speaker 1: And what's the resistance. He doesn't have a defensive line

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Speaker 1: and a three hundred pounder coming and pushing him backwards,

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Speaker 1: So where is he on that next step? But I

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Speaker 1: do like when you talk about the offensive line and

504
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Speaker 1: those guys, whether it's protecting the quarterback or opening up

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Speaker 1: rushing lanes for the running backs. You've got Paris on

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Speaker 1: the left side, You've got Sam Allo at left guard,

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Speaker 1: yelled A forro Hold at center, And I do think

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Speaker 1: it's question mark question mark at right guard right tackle,

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Speaker 1: although I'm willing to pencil in Isaiah Adams at right

510
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Speaker 1: guard and Elijah Wilkins at right tackle Wilkins, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: at right tackle at least as we speak here April first,

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Speaker 1: I believe a year ago at this time we had

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Speaker 1: a different discussion about right guard. I'm not going to

514
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Speaker 1: make that mistake this time around, because question for that

515
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Speaker 1: that take fell completely flat right away. But I do

516
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Speaker 1: like Adams and Wilkinson at least on the right side.

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Speaker 1: April first, I reserved the right to change my mind.

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Speaker 3: Sure, no, I agree with you. But when you say

519
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Speaker 3: question mark right guard, who else is there?

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Speaker 1: There's your guy John Gaines, who can play guard. There

521
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Speaker 1: is some new faces that they have added in Matt Pryor,

522
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Speaker 1: who has got some experience, not a lot. Wilkinson can

523
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Speaker 1: also play guard, although he played all of last season

524
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Speaker 1: at tackle for the Atlanta Falcons. I'm talking about there's experience,

525
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Speaker 1: but there's not a ton of experience as far as

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Speaker 1: guys that. That's why I would put Adams ahead.

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Speaker 3: And will you see how I think there's a question

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Speaker 3: mark or right tackle. I don't see Wilkinson being the

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Speaker 3: starting right tackle. I think this team is poised one

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Speaker 3: to either go offensive line or edge rusher with a

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Speaker 3: third overall pick. Truly, I think both make sense. I

532
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Speaker 3: think they are setting themselves up to take an offensive

533
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Speaker 3: lineman who will likely be the starting right tackle, and

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Speaker 3: they have depth. I'm intrigued, Well, I'm intrigued every year,

535
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Speaker 3: but I'm intrigued by the offensive line competition and battles

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Speaker 3: will see at the end of the summer. Because yes,

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Speaker 3: John Gaines looked good in the few reps he had

538
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Speaker 3: at guard last year when he had to step up,

539
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Speaker 3: very few reps, a lot less playing time than Isaiah Adams,

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Speaker 3: and Gaines has really been the backup center to yield

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Speaker 3: of Rohold over the years. And rookie Hayden Connor last year,

542
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Speaker 3: who's going into a second year, was dealing with injuries

543
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Speaker 3: for the majority of the year. But I believe that

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Speaker 3: they see him as a backup center as well. So

545
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Speaker 3: what is the competition there? And if they like Connor

546
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Speaker 3: at center, well where does Gaines go right? Gaines could

547
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Speaker 3: be your backup left guard, So I understand the question mark.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know how much competition there's going

549
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Speaker 3: to be right now. After starting right guard. It definitely

550
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Speaker 3: feels like it is Adams's job to lose, if anything,

551
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Speaker 3: And I think that right tackle position is all but

552
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Speaker 3: wide open.

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Speaker 1: You said the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong

554
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Speaker 1: a year ago. I disagreed with you at the time,

555
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Speaker 1: and I've learned my lesson because I do think.

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Speaker 4: That is growth. Craig.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a different in Isaiah Adams. At

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Speaker 1: least I'm hoping this is a different Isaiah Adams going

559
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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty six because of what happened to him

560
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Speaker 1: where he won the job. He looked outstanding in training

561
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Speaker 1: camp in preseason, and then lost the job. Will Hernandez

562
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Speaker 1: came back, was healthy, plugged back in to right guard,

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Speaker 1: and then Will struggled and Isaiah was reserted into the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup and I think had a we talk about

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Speaker 1: new perspective, Freshet Eyes. I think it was a different

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams when he returned to the starting lineup because

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Speaker 1: how he handled the benching. Some guys don't handle it well.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a net positive for Isaiah Adams

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Speaker 1: in retrospect because I think he's in a different spot

570
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Speaker 1: physically mentally, maybe more so than anything coming into this season.

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Speaker 1: Because one nothing gets handed to you, and even if

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Speaker 1: you are the starughter, you could lose that job pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: And I think I hope that Isaiah Adams becomes that guy.

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Speaker 1: Instead of pencil, you put his name in ink when

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Speaker 1: it comes to week one and this entire season.

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Speaker 3: The confidence felt different. The confidence felt different from earning

577
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Speaker 3: the starting role at the start of the season to

578
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Speaker 3: the confidence he had at the end of the season

579
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Speaker 3: of having won that role back and looking better at

580
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Speaker 3: the end of the season and than he did that

581
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Speaker 3: first year. That's not necessarily atypical for an offensive lineman

582
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Speaker 3: taking what day two, day three of the draft, right

583
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Speaker 3: is typically you need a solid year. With the exception

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Speaker 3: of someone like a Paris Johnson junior right taken top

585
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Speaker 3: of the first round, most offensive linemen typically need a

586
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Speaker 3: solid year to essentially gain weight and muscle because the

587
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Speaker 3: players are so much bigger and so much stronger than

588
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Speaker 3: college and under, and you need to be stronger and

589
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Speaker 3: faster for the speed of the game. And so that's

590
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Speaker 3: a large part of offensive linemen is they need time

591
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Speaker 3: to really develop physically, and then you start right adding

592
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Speaker 3: in all the different aspects of their games, their footwork,

593
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Speaker 3: where their hand placed is right, staying low and pad level,

594
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Speaker 3: and so the timeline kind of fits with Adams, and

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Speaker 3: I really liked seeing the jump and confidence and how

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Speaker 3: we cared himself, how he talked about his play at

597
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Speaker 3: the end of the season, and hopefully he's poised for

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Speaker 3: a big year.

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Speaker 1: Three you bring up tackle as far as potentially. In addition,

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Speaker 1: come the draft and save the date, Danny. Of course

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Speaker 1: you'll be busy, But Thursday, April twenty third Draft party

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Speaker 1: on the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium. Get your

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Speaker 1: tickets now Berg Gang download the Cardinals mobile at more

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Speaker 1: details on Easycardinals dot com. But go to the draft party.

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Speaker 1: You will see Danny Surrek connection virtually virtually. Yes, Paul

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Speaker 1: calvic I believe is going to be the host with

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Speaker 1: a cast of thousands. But I think we I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the Arizona Cardinals content team. I think we do

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Speaker 1: the draft very very well, different locations, different people, and

610
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Speaker 1: access that not many teams or other media to tease

611
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: will deliver on draft night when it comes to hearing

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Speaker 1: from the general manager and hearing from the.

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Speaker 3: Head coach, I agree completely. We'll have coverage from three

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Speaker 3: different locations. You and I will be part of the

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Speaker 3: group that will be here at the headquarters right where

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Speaker 3: I will speak with the general manager and the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Immediately after the pick, the way we've done in the past,

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Speaker 3: and they'll have their press conferences here and you and

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Speaker 3: I will be doing a whole bunch of podcasts throughout

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Speaker 3: the weekend, so keep an eye out for those. We'll

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Speaker 3: have Paul Calvic representing us the Draft party, which honestly

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Speaker 3: looks like a blast every year. I mean, sometimes the

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Speaker 3: draft can be boring right when you're watching from home,

624
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Speaker 3: but the Draft party does not make a boring with

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Speaker 3: all they've got going on there, and so that'll be

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Speaker 3: a good time. We'll also have some representation out in Pittsburgh. Now,

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Speaker 3: not to say that the player at three or wherever

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals end up picking will necessarily be in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: because over the years players like to stay home and

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Speaker 3: have watch parties, but typically the league likes to have

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Speaker 3: at least the top half of those expected draft picks

632
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Speaker 3: to be there on site go out on stage hug

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Speaker 3: Roger Goodell. So we'll have coverage from all three sites,

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Speaker 3: which is exciting. It's a very long weekend. It's very rewarding,

635
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Speaker 3: but it's also fun. It's an injection of hope, right

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Speaker 3: and excitement of you get a little taste of football

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Speaker 3: coming back.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Zach Kirshman is headed or scheduled to head

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh for the draft, and here's hoping that the

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Speaker 1: selection at numbers for his sake. Otherwise it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a different story experience. But hey, and who knows,

642
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: is we know once upon a time the Cardinals did

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Speaker 1: have the third overall pick, and at that time we

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Speaker 1: were doing different kinds of coverage in the TV studio,

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Speaker 1: and at that time, the Cardinals were on the clock

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Speaker 1: until they were not and then we had to exit

647
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Speaker 1: the coverage and then come back on and the Cardinals

648
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: dropped to twelve, moved up to six, and got Paris

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Speaker 1: Johnson Junior. So it's put it this way. Draft nights,

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Speaker 1: especially in the first round, always an adventure, as is

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Speaker 1: the entire three days. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Something most people don't know is teams are limited in

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Speaker 3: how much time they're a lot of broadcast around the draft.

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Speaker 3: So we had twenty minutes when we were doing a

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Speaker 3: live draft show at the time, you and I and

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Speaker 3: we went on the clock. We started our twenty minutes

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Speaker 3: to broadcast, and the Cardinals traded down to twelve, and

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Speaker 3: we thought, oh boy, well our twenty minutes is going

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Speaker 3: to be up, so we had to end our live stream,

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Speaker 3: and then the Cardinals traded back up to six, so

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Speaker 3: then we had to restart the live stream, and by

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Speaker 3: that point we were what four minutes in from the

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Speaker 3: first time. There's there's a lot of rules that people

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Speaker 3: might not know about for teams and their coverage that

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Speaker 3: are set by the league, and we don't do a

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Speaker 3: live show anymore, but we will still have plenty of

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Speaker 3: coverage and we'll have some immediate reactions, especially on these

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Speaker 3: cover two podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Chaotic Fun is how we got to wait to ride

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft again Thursday, April twenty third, the Draft

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Speaker 1: party on the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium. Download

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals mobile app. Tickets are free. Parking is free.

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Speaker 1: More details on Easycardinals dot com as well. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: details before we head on out of here, details on

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Speaker 1: uniform numbers. I don't know how well you follow or

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Speaker 1: care Danny on what uniform numbers players are wearing. Obviously

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Speaker 1: we do care because that's kind of how we identify

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Speaker 1: players from far away based off the press box viewing.

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Speaker 1: But we knew that Mac Wilson was going to rock

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Speaker 1: number one. Will Johnson is number two. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: handful of other new numbers. Cody Simon, who wore number

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Speaker 1: fifty last year in his first year, is now going

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Speaker 1: to be zero because that's available with Will Johnson choosing

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Speaker 1: to go to two. And I think this is cool

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Speaker 1: for Cody because he wore that block oh at Ohio

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Speaker 1: State his senior year and that was a big deal

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Speaker 1: for him, a big deal for all Buckeyes when you

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Speaker 1: get that block. Oh. So he is now going to

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Speaker 1: be wearing zero for the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six and most likely for the foreseeable future. Although these

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Speaker 1: players changed numbers a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well Johnson move into two, that was his college number

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Speaker 3: at Michigan. I'm okay with players changing the numbers, but

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Speaker 3: I understand why fans get frustrated because you're spending money

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Speaker 3: on jersey. So I just I hope players if you

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Speaker 3: change a number with the same team, I think you

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Speaker 3: get one change. You get one change. I know Budda

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Speaker 3: Baker would probably disagree with me. There, we would, But

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Speaker 3: I think now with the league opening up the last

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Speaker 3: few years, the range of numbers that position players can wear,

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Speaker 3: you're no longer just subjected to a handful of numbers

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Speaker 3: in a certain range. For the most part, I'd like

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Speaker 3: to see players you make one number change so people

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Speaker 3: can buy your jersey and.

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Speaker 4: Stick with that.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is gonna wear fifteen. He wore that number

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Speaker 1: when he first entered the league with the Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: then most recently with the Raiders. Kendrick Bourne seventeen. That

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Speaker 1: was a number onore by Isai Jones. Born had been

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Speaker 1: eighty four since twenty eighteen, but that number belongs to

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Speaker 1: Elijah Higgins. Tyler Algier gonna rock twenty two, a number

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Speaker 1: worn by Michael Carter who I was just informed by

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher that Michael Carter is on

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Speaker 1: his way to the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 4: Hadn't seen that, not either.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Cody's always in the know over.

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Speaker 4: Here, always always on his phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Put the phone down. So one love

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Speaker 1: it for Michael Carter that it gets an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: hate it for me personally, maybe even speaking for you, Danny,

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Speaker 1: because Michael Carter was such a joy in that locker room,

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Speaker 1: always had a smile on his face. Unfortunately, though where

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Speaker 1: he was on the depth chart, just could never really

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Speaker 1: find his way on that opening week roster, but maintained

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Speaker 1: his positive outlook and always was at the ready and

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Speaker 1: for the last two seasons found his way to be

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Speaker 1: a starter at some point during the season. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter will get an opportunity now with the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: So again, number changes for all of them go to

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Speaker 1: Azycardinals dot Com Roy Lopez, who are big fans of

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Speaker 1: gonna wear fifty one, the number he wore with Detroit

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Speaker 1: last season. He was ninety eight when he was first

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Speaker 1: here with the Cardinals a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: But what's gonna be happening with ninety eight Craig.

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Speaker 1: Ninety eight still to be decided. Okay, I think we

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Speaker 1: have to wait and see on some of these. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping we'll see. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Hopeen the player who wore ninety eight last year makes

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Speaker 3: a return in number ninety eight at State Farm Stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, nineteen years would just be incredible, not

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Speaker 3: that eighteen wasn't twenty three?

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Speaker 4: Ninety eight thank you ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Put it this way, if Klayus wants to by all

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Speaker 1: means play and play here and can you get to

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Speaker 1: twenty or is that asking too much? I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: trying to get you to twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think it depends on how nineteen turns out. But

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be a question of whether or not Campbell

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Speaker 3: can play. Oh, he showed that he can. He can

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Speaker 3: play and season eighteen last.

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Speaker 1: Year, and I think at the end of last season

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Speaker 1: he and the Cardinals figured out a way to really

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Speaker 1: maximize his snap counts to where he was more impactful

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Speaker 1: when they needed him to be impactful, because early on

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Speaker 1: this season he was playing a lot guys, certainly a

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Speaker 1: lot fresher at the start of the season. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: kalais in number ninety three. It is still available, so

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Speaker 1: who knows.

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Speaker 4: Time will tell. I'm sure very soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully sooner rather than later. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun this week to be out at the Arizona

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Speaker 1: built more for the Annual League Meeting and by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: and I take everyone at their word for this, whether

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Speaker 1: it's our boss, Darren Urban or NFL Networks Mike Carafala,

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Speaker 1: who I heard a couple of different times say this,

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Speaker 1: The Annual League Meeting is coming back to Arizona in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, So prepare accordingly, Danny, because I got

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Speaker 1: some different ideas for coverage for next year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but I wasn't the

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Speaker 3: one who did a podcast with you, So it's talking about.

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Speaker 1: For everyone because I think we can make it bigger

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Speaker 1: and better than we did in twenty twenty six, because

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Speaker 1: I do think we did a lot more this time

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Speaker 1: around then. I think three or four years ago there

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Speaker 1: was a lot more that we got as a group,

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Speaker 1: including what's to come this week on Cardinals bird Watch.

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Speaker 3: Well, in our defense, Craig Cardinal's bird Watch didn't exist

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Speaker 3: three or four so that's true. Not to completely discredit,

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Speaker 3: but the reason you didn't have that three or four

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Speaker 3: years ago is because it's been around for just a

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Speaker 3: little more than a year. But I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 3: this week's Yes, Paul and I had a one on

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Speaker 3: one with Michael Floor. We spoke with Darren too as

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Speaker 3: well at the Owner's meeting, so should be a good

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Speaker 3: episode this week.

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Speaker 1: Get Michael Flora's exclusive comments on the coaches photo, which

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Speaker 1: is maybe the highlights of the annual league meeting each

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Speaker 1: and every year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always a fun one talks about Danny.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your long weekend.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it, have fun.

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Speaker 1: And rocket as you always do. Thank you, same to you,

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Speaker 1: support for you, for you. On that notes, we will

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre, our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher. For Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Real Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two